Do you like this movie?
>>223926243I liked when the pig nazis died
Yes
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>>223926243its good to scratch the WWII battle and setting itch, and visually its nice enough to overcome the retarded plot. i come back to it once or twice a year
>hey man, i know i just machine gunned hundreds of your comrades from a elevated protected bunker including the medics and wounded..... BUT since you flanked my position you have to let me surrender as part of the Geneva convention. Btw did i mention I'm not even German? :)
>>223926243Is this the best war movie of all time?
>>223926385>[…] The Jews, however, are beyond all doubt the strongest, toughest, and purest race at present living in Europe, they know how to succeed even under the worst conditions (in fact better than under favourable ones), by means of virtues of some sort, which one would like nowadays to label as vices--owing above all to a resolute faith which does not need to be ashamed before "modern ideas", they alter only, WHEN they do alter, in the same way that the Russian Empire makes its conquest--as an empire that has plenty of time and is not of yesterday--namely, according to the principle, "as slowly as possible"! A thinker who has the future of Europe at heart, will, in all his perspectives concerning the future, calculate upon the Jews, as he will calculate upon the Russians, as above all the surest and likeliest factors in the great play and battle of forces. That which is at present called a "nation" in Europe, and is really rather a RES FACTA than NATA (indeed, sometimes confusingly similar to a RES FICTA ET PICTA), is in every case something evolving, young, easily displaced, and not yet a race, much less such a race AERE PERENNUS, as the Jews are such "nations" should most carefully avoid all hotheaded rivalry and hostility! It is certain that the Jews, if they desired--or if they were driven to it, as the anti-Semites seem to wish--COULD now have the ascendancy, nay, literally the supremacy, over Europe, that they are NOT working and planning for that end is equally certain.Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil §251
>>223926243d day scene was heckin gruesome who the fuck would agree that, I’d go AWOL
>>223926243It was all made up and not based on a true storyHis brothers were never blown up by japanese and they never sent 10 men on a suicide mission
>>223926674far be it for me to defend a war film that is mostly just WAR the movie but if you watch it the film is really about the characters, squadmates etc. The confusing decisions and split second nonsense that changes and ends lives. It actually is not a bad film. If it lays things on a bit thick it was the 90s and the concepts in the film harken to older war films that Spielberg watched growing up but with a much much bigger budget. Check out old films like Battlegrounds if you doubt this.
>>223926355not even top 10
>>223926854What is your fav one?
>>223926854name 10. cant wait to eviscerate you
>The painstaking realism of Saving Private Ryan had an immediate and often deeply distressing impact on the World War II veterans who formed a key part of its initial audience. When the film was released, there were reportedly several veterans for whom the experience became unbearable, so much so that they had to exit the theater. Reports from the time tell stories about how older men were leaving cinemas during the D-Day sequence, overwhelmed by emotion, sometimes in tears.https://www.cbr.com/saving-private-ryan-veterans-movie-theater-walk-out/
>>223926854>>223926868not that guy but while the op is not a bad film at all like contrarians on here pretend I can name five submarine kinos alone that crush it as a war film. I know it isn't fair either but between Hollywood precode films like the fighting 69th and All quiet on the western front, let alone a lot of the films from 1943-55 saving private ryan stacks up behind. I will not bother typing anything else out or making a list because it is all so fucking pointless and god is dead
>>223926243The entire premise is dumb. Why did they send a squad ahead of the rest of the forces to rescue a single man? Did they expect ten people to slip by and defeat an entire military?
>>223926891Wonder how they felt about the rest of the movie.
>>223926877>>223926854you wont say shit now will you bitch?
>>223926877Thin Red LineThe Human ConditionCross of IronGettysburg (yes its better)Stalingrad (original)Letters from Iwo JimaDownfallHurt LockerWhere Eagles DareBallad of a SoldierAll better than SVP.
>>223927025No Zulu, Platoon, Patton
>>223926243The intro is good, the rest is a slog. >>223927048>Pattonabsolute snooze-fest
>>223927025>Thin Red Lineonly good choice you made, but still got raped in the box office compared to SPR when they came out at SAME TIME >The Human Conditionhurr durr japanese movie good, fuck off weeb>Cross of IronCome and See is better, this is how i know you are a pleb >Gettysburg (yes its better)Glory is better, this is how i know you are a pleb >Stalingrad (original)Come and See is better, this is how i know you are a pleb >Letters from Iwo JimaNah>Downfallok this is good but still not better than SPR >Hurt LockerLOL>Where Eagles Dareare you kidding me? >Ballad of a SoldierCome and See is better, this is how i know you are a pleb >No Platoon, No Full Metal Jacket, No Apocalypse Now2/10 thats the best i can do
>>223927048You are right I forgot Platoon. Platoon alone mogs this film.
>>223927025I'll add "Sink the Bismarck!" to the list.
>>223927120>Rating Glory over Gettysburg This is how I know you aren't a WASP. Don't at me again.
>>223927162>whaaa you cant mention blacks in a fucking CIVIL WAR movieglory has better ratings and box office. its just a better film
das boot
Saving Private Ryan begins, as I'm sure everyone has told you, with an incredible battle sequence. Maybe that was true for them, but the version I saw sure began differently: a fif-teen-second shot of Old Glory a-wavin' in the wind. With Copland-like music in the background. Even John Wayne would have been embarrassed to start a movie that way. Hearts and flowers, God bless America, all that awful stuff. Today, only the Farrellys could get away with something like that.Then there follows a weird sequence which I have sub-titled "The Man With the Big-Boobed Girls." And I am not being facetious. This old guy lumbers around someplace, we don't know where, and behind him are a bunch of Norman Rockwell types, but all I can concentrate on are these big¬boobed girls who are tagging along. Then we find that we're in a cemetery, and a shot of a flag tells us France. Lots of crosses. He kneels, at a particular cross, weeps, some of the family run to him, the big-boobed ones hanging back.Then a long shot of his moist eyes and as the camera moves slowly into a close up of those eyes, we know this much: we are going into flashback now.The story that has moved this old man is about to be told.And now we are into the battle sequence.What to say about it? Fabulous, brilliant, extraordinary, whatever you want. And do you know why? The length: twenty four minutes. The stuff itself is absolute as good and no better than Francis Coppola's war stuff or Oliver Stone's war stuff. But here it just goes pulverizingly on and on. It was brave of writer Robert Rodat to write it that way and brave of director Steven Spielberg to direct it with that incredible relentless tension.What to say about Spielberg? For me, as great a shooter as anyone in movie history. Clearly the most important American director of the last thirty years, and on occasion, the most brilliant.When he is in his wheel house. More of that presently.
>>223927222As anybody reading this must know, Robert Rodat's story is about a squad of soldiers sent on a rescue mission—to find a Private Ryan, a young soldier who has lost three brothers in action. Ryan, once located, is to be sent back home before another tragedy totally destroys the remains of his family.OK, so what the movie has to do is simple: get the rescue squad going after the kid. The Spielberg of Raider's of the Lost Ark would have taken maybe a minute to set that up. In this movie it takes Spielberg thirteen pretentious, operatic minutes. Climaxed when a General reads a letter Honest Abe Lincoln wrote which is so moving, sports fans, it brings tears to the other high officers who are listening to the General.Sure.Then, after more uninteresting stuff, forty minutes into the movie, Hanks' squad finally sets off on their odyssey to find Private Ryan. And the hunt for him is just terrific. Sequence after sequence. The village with the French girl and the sudden Nazi's and the wrong Ryan. The church. The wounded area with the haunted pilot where they find out where Ryan might be. The bunker fight with the Nazi who Hanks releases and wonderful work between Tom Sizemore and Ed Burns and Hanks. Then the fight with the tank and off-handedly, surprisingly, they find Private Ryan.We are an hour and forty five minutes into the movie now. We have just had an hour plus of sensational storytelling. And I am so excited because I know what is going to happen now: they are going to take Ryan back only it is going to be so much harder than finding him was. The story was going to be like a great snowball, accumulating as it roared toward climax, gathering weight and size and emotional power as Hanks desperately tried to get the kid home to his shattered mother.And guess what: the rest of the movie is a disgrace. Fifty plus minutes of phony manipulative shit.
>>223927222>this gets upset over the American flag, flowers in a cemetery, and woman with breastsNot reading the rest of his retarded drivel.
>>223927222>i dont like the set up to the action>i dont like the action>i dont like k
>>223926243>mama always said germany was like a box of chocolatesThis movie was ahead of its time
>>223927261Things start going south immediately. We are in a bombed French village which has a valuable bridge. Hanks tells Ryan to get ready. And Ryan—Matt Damon—says this: he doesn't want to go. Sure his mom has suffered, sure it's awful what's happened to his family, but these guys are his brothers now and he will not leave them.In an awful awful scene, after Matt has stamped his foot in anger, Hanks and Tom Sizemore, the tough Sergeant have a talk.Sizemore asks what Hanks' orders are and Hanks replies thusly: "Sergeant, we have crossed some strange boundary here. The world has taken a turn for the surreal."And I am sitting there thinking no, nothing surreal about it. A simple request has been made that needs a simple answer.Sizemore tells Hanks this. "Some part of me thinks the kid's right. What's he done to deserve this? If he wants to stay here fine. Let's leave him and go home."And Hanks says "yeah."And I say, where did the notion of leaving him and going home come from? Surely it has never been breathed on planet Earth before. What are you talking about?So they stay.You know the worst thing? It would have been easy to have them stay and not be phony about it. How? Try this:Matt makes his pitch. Hanks says I understand your emotions, but we're out of here right now.Next cut, they are leaving the village. Next cut they are crossing the bridge. Next cut, walking in the countryside-and then a close up of Hanks and he stares and guess what?——The Germans are coming, They're here, it's too late to leave.Next cut, exactly what we have now, and go on as before, only with more urgency. And without the awful manipulation.
>>223927222>>223927261>>223927287nobody is reading this. you can save your effort
>>223927287The most damaging speech of the movie comes next. Matt Damon starts into this long—two minutes, folks—remembrance of the last time he and his brothers were together. A sexual escapade when one of his brothers was trying to fuck this girl, a girl who "took a nose dive out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down."The speech—ad libbed by Matt Damon is the only time we get to spend any private time with Ryan. And the speech does not exactly endear him to us. It also rips a lot of the emotional fabric of the film to pieces. And I wonder only this: how could Spielberg allow something this atrocious to happen?A bunch of Germans come running toward camera. We are drawn toward one particular German bad guy. Want to know why? He's the only one without a helmet. And, gasp, we realize he is that very same Nodzi who Hanks let live in the earlier sequence. (Spielberg has just discovered irony.) And, shock of shocks, he is the very one who plugs poor Tom.Now of course, this is manipulation to the nth power. But that's ok, lots of movies do that. But it is not ok here. And why?Because it gives the lie to the great part of the film.That wonderful twenty-four minute sequence? What did that tell us about war? That it is awful, yes, of course that. But it also told us this: war is nonsensical, illogical, totally beyond human comprehension.But here it is all totally understandable. Let a bad guy go, guess what, he will return, relentless and helmetless to kill you. (And hang around conveniently so the cowardly lion of the flick, the translator, can become a man by killing the very man who shot his captain.) In order for this sequence to be in balance with the entire film, that opening battle sequence would have to be altered so that it was about John Wayne fighting his way to glory and saving all his raw recruits around him. Then this bullshit with the German soldier is in keeping with the film.
>>223927324Hanks is dying, Ed Burns runs for a medic, Matt Damon is alone with Hanks. And do you know what Hanks' last words were? Of course you don't, no one does, not the first time they see the movie. Because not only are they whispered so softly, they have never before been spoken on this or any planet. "Earn this . . . earn it." Those are the words.Hanks is dead, the awful pretentious voice of the actor playing General Marshall is treackling away, we hear ole Honest Abe's letter again and I am now waiting for the shot of Ed Burns with the big boobed girls back at the cemetery. Why do I know that is coming? Well, only two members of the squad are left, Burns and the cowardly translator and I know it can't be him because he was not with Hanks and the squad during the twenty-four minutes of glory at the start of the film. So it has to be Burns standing there among the graves.Now the morphing shot comes -and I am looking at the old face of Matt Damon at the cemetery.Well, you can't do that. Don't you see, he wasn't fucking there. He knew nothing of the attack on the beach, knew nothing of the odyssey that followed, and he never had a chance to hear about it. The only spare moment he had was when he was telling us all about his brothers and the ugly girl and setting the barn on fire.When he was great, and he was great, Spielberg was a phenomenal storyteller. All gone. That, or he doesn't care.Just when you think Spielberg has stooped as low as even he can, new thresholds are reached. Four agonizing minutes of pretentious syrup, climaxing when Matt asks his wife has he been a good man? What is she going to answer? Her husband is clearly having a breakdown. She says yes and Matt—wait for it—he salutes!Then Old Glory returns, waving at us for half a minute. I guess reminding us that God and Steven Spielberg are on the same side.
>>223926355As a WWII buff and cinema enjoyer who has seen 1500 movies. It is the best war movie and 2nd best WWII movie 2nd to Longest Day
>>223926243Zionist propaganda to brainwash goyim school children into playing wwii soldier in the backyard and inspire patriotism in young goyim men so they would be ready to enlist after 9/11, followed closely by band of brothers…yes they do plan that far ahead.
The opening dday scene is legendary but the rest of the movie is boring as fuck
>>223927419i mean, the knifing of the jew scene was pretty good
>>223926243Yes. We fought on the wrong side to save the wrong people who weren't grateful for it and would come back to destroy our countries from the inside out for it, but it's a good movie.
>>223927409They did create existence and guided the evolution of the universe so they could take total control of one teeny speck of dust, after all.
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>>223926287tzd
>>223927552This, we all should have rolled over and begged for belly rubs from Hitler and his crew, he was the return of Jesus and would have led the planet to utopia. At least he's getting a second chance today, maybe we won't fuck it up this time.
i like how its just war propaganda dressed up in an anti war message and that it dehumanising the Germans to such an extent that most of them dont bleed when shot they just eject grey dust from their bodies like theyre some sort of inhuman golem
