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Bejitabros...we wonned...
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Vegeta is basically humiliation ritual: the character tho
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>>223928072
>Cuckgeta is so cucked at this point they cucked him out of the anime

LMAOOO
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not even gohan did this much politicking
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>>223928121
uhm....they literally did the opposite of that retard
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he fell to the floor and moaned like a JAV model after getting filled
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>>223928072
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>223928186
>if they remove you from the show, you win
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>>223928229
>misreading on purpose
fuck off reddit
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the humor in super was awful

goku was always naive but at least a pro on the battlefield. in super they made him like naruto a complete moron 24/7. vegeta also deserves better since hes the only one with an arc in super
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>Vegeta now just spends the entire episode trembling in the corner with shit and piss in his pants
>Vegeta fans consider this winning
Lmao
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>>223928290
Japanese humor in general is crap at the level of MCU "humor", and is just as obnoxious.
Dragon Ball and Metal Gear Solid are the two biggest examples that come to mind when it comes to humor ruining something
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>>223928434
t. po faced kraut
sorry there aren't enough fart gags for you
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>>223928462
I don't like gags in general, I like serious stories.
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>>223928462
what the fuck are talking about
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>>223928495
germans like farts and hate funny jokes
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>>223928434
hey man why kojimbo gotta catch strays here
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>>223928504
did jewish media tell you that? vulgar ass and fart humor seems to be an american thing
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>>223928519
oh oh! found the gassy kraut
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>>223928434
that humor is meant for little kids
their adult humor wouldn’t even translate
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kekarot never kissed his wife
sad!
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>>223928560
i watched dragonball + z + gt as a kid and there were adult / dark themes and moments so why does this have to be made for retards now?
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>>223928600
the adult themes were whatever you wanted them to be
you could easily go dude it’s so adult and dark beerus is threatening their destruction cuz he’s the destructor lmao
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>>223928087
Toriyama wanted to kill him off for good but fans basically forced him to keep him around.
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>>223928632
>the adult themes were whatever you wanted them to be
murder is an adult theme

>you could easily go dude it’s so adult and dark beerus is threatening their destruction cuz he’s the destructor lmao

if it had been setup and written like that with actual stakes super might have been a better story/show
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>>223928072
Wtf why? Vegeta being such a subservient little bitch drives the point home that beerus is someone to be feared in his first introduction, and it also makes the moment vegeta stands up to him more powerful when he snaps after bulma gets slapped.
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>>223928654
toriyama was a great mind but needed his editors to keep his bullshit in check. very similar to george lucas
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For those of you who "think" (I'm using that word in its loosest possible sense) that this remake is somehow """""""bad""""""""", have you tried not being a retarded incel manbaby piece of shit? Huh? Have you tried that one yet? Because I hear it really helps here, and it seems to be just what you're missing.
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>>223928859
have you tried not being a complete retarded faggot simping for companies?

this is the third time this shit had to be animated because of the awful quality and state it was in. years wasted with gokus seiyuu already hitting 90 and the franchise being in limbo due to rights being all over the place
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>>223928716
I hope you're not implying pic related is an example of "stakes" considering he just gets revived
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>>223928780
The Prince of all Jobbers licking boot doesn't do shit to make someone look like a greater threat. It's only purpose was humor, and the humor was cringe and out of character in a meaningless way. Shouldn't have been removed, but it was still stupid.
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>>223928911
not its clearly an example of the adult theme of murder. and for the time there were stakes since no one knew if he could be revived or if the balls could even be collected.

One of the few good things of GT was them facing consequences of overusing the dragon balls
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>>223928072
Hilarious that they made a "remake" and it still looks like shit, classic Toei animation. Same shit is going to happen with the wanpiss remake.
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>>223928780
That never made sense. Frieza could literally kill Vegeta with a finger yet he never danced for him or acted like his clown
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>>223928072
did they at least keep the Bulma scene?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-gUewwnO9o
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>>223928072
I want Beerus to fuck me in the ass.
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>>223928087
not really
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>>223928072
We don't need this shit remade again, just give us Moro
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>>223928072
>>223928087
>>223928654
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all the strongest villains had tails
i will not elaborate
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I haven't watched any DB in 30 years, why is he being the bowl bitch to some furry?
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>>223929335
because its all bullshit retroactively made up and added
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>>223931167
the story is set after buu saga. the cat is the god of destruction of the universe. its written that vegeta met him as a kid and watched him bitch slap his father. they also added that he is the one who ordered frieza to destroy the sayian homeworld

vegeta bows like a cuck because the cat just beat goku like its nothing on king kais planet and vegeta is trying to not upset the cat who usually destroys every planet he visits
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>>223928072
but it doesn't matter if they don't change the story to have him not being afraid like a total bitch
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>>223931063
Kwab
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>>223931167
Due to a series of retarded retcons , that furry mfer is now the strongest thing in existence and Bejita is being a Bejitch before Bejobs to him.
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>>223928072
But those scenes were funny and they also showed Vegeta's growth as a character that he actually cared more about keeping his wife, family and planet safe compared to his dignity. Why are they fucking remaking the same story for the third time in a decade anyway? Beyond diaper we haven't seen proper new DB since what, the Broly movie? I want to see what happens after the Tournament of Power. There's literally a whole fucking manga to adapt, just adapt it. Fucking remakes just fuck off, WE'VE SEEN THIS ALREADY
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>>223931397
the franchise is in limbo since toriyama died due to who own the rights and the quality of super was so terrible that they are giving it the "kai" treatment
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>>223931357
>Due to a series of retarded retcons , that furry mfer is now the strongest thing in existence

It's actually not a retcon

Goku and Piccolo being Saiyan and Namekian respectively also isn't a retcon

An actual retcon is Bardock's backstory
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>>223931464
a recton is bulma having a sister in space having access to fucking space ships
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>>223931256
>they also added that he is the one who ordered frieza to destroy the sayian homeworld
I fucking hate this trope so fucking much.
"Remember that memorable character who did that memorable thing in that media you liked? Actually, all of it was actually because of this super lame OC we made up." Fuck off.

DBZ died for me with the Buu saga, that shit fucking sucked, so as far as I'm concerned that saga and everything after doesn't exist.
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>>223931511
That's also not a retcon. A retcon is changing something that was previously established.

The Saiyan race is retcon city. Bardock special (replaced by Minus), no Tuffles (functionally replaced by Kikono and the rest of Frieza's advisors), Saibamen have been mostly ignored when Toei used them many times in their filler, changed from a marauding, self-destructive warrior race to a more well-rounded, advanced civilization with different castes beyond classes of warriors, etc.
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>>223931629
i mean this came from the great mind that gave us "golden frieza" when cooler had already had the next stage of evolution.

of course only to be topped by "black frieza"

also super saiyan god looked so gay it was rebranded as "red" and we got "blue" which is super saiyan god without faggot mode
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>>223931670
>" when cooler had already had the next stage of evolution.
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>>223931256
>they also added that he is the one who ordered frieza to destroy the sayian homeworld
just straight up ruins the entire namek/frieza saga
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>>223931648
bulma being an only child was established. there was no mention of a sibling ever especially not one being as smart as her living in fucking outer space having access to the very thing they needed during the namek saga aka spaceship+location of namek
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>>223929335
Because now he wants to defend earth. You guys are fucking idiots
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>>223928434
>Dragon Ball and Metal Gear Solid are the two biggest examples that come to mind when it comes to humor ruining something
One Piece "humor" turned me off from anime altogether
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>>223928716
>murder is an adult theme
Not inherently, it’s very common for children’s stories to feature someone killing someone for evil purpose. The adult themes around murder rely much more on things like psychology, motive, or using more complex clues to understand in ways children wouldn’t. Shit like Harry Potter has murder.
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>>223931695
>Freeza-sama
gay fansub
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>>223932424
perfect for you then haha
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>>223932838
You've outted yourself as a newfag
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>>223929935
Whis...
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>>223928072
why'd they waste time re-releasing this shit?
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vegeta bros...
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>>223934085
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>>223928087
He's got one of the best character arcs of the entire franchise.
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>>223928072
Did you notice that when he rages out, they foreshadowed Ultra Ego by making the Super Saiyan 2 lightning purple?
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>>223934085
Because they know a huge part of the DB fanbase are like Star Wars fans. They'll buy the same thing over and over
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>>223934620
Was it ever explained why he abandons his goal of trying to use the dragon balls to obtain immortality after Namek or did Toriyama just conveniently forget about his entire motivation for coming to Earth?
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>>223934816
His goal switched to wanting to become a SSJ, which he can do from training at home
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>>223928072
I didn't get to see the episode, a really strange change if true
That's a big if true though since people claimed beerus cut Goku on his tractor and it didn't.
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>>223934816
Bulma threw the pussy on him for the first time in his life and he realized his priorities were wack. No point in living forever if you can't nuttt.
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>>223931256
>they also added that he is the one who ordered frieza to destroy the sayian homeworld
further proof of GT's superiority, they don't add stupid faggot shit like this
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>>223934816
I feel like Toriyama probably intended for him die to Freeza on Namek, but he ended up being too popular with fans to kill off permanently so he kept him around as a rival to Goku.
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>>223934882
>they don't add stupid faggot shit like this
It added the worst retcon of all that using the Dragon Balls, the things the fucking show is named after, is actually LE BAD!
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>>223934882
It makes life so much more simple.
Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Dragonball GT!
Why does this offend mi amigos so grande?
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>>223934984
watch the show before you try to shitpost about it
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>>223934642
She would run off with some human on a quest to "Find herself", avoiding responsibility and duty entirely to be railed by Chad.
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>>223928632
> The adult themes were whatever you wanted them to be
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>>223932838
/a/ is full of Mexicans and they always spam memes in Spanish.
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You just know Akira Toriyama hated Vegeta so much. Why he created Vegeta then?
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>>223935131
What did I get wrong shill?
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>>223931464
> According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, a retcon introduces new information in a later work that forces the audience to view past events in a completely different way.
Beerus is the definition of a retcon.
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>>223935408

The whole series was supposed to end after Namek. Vegeta was supposed to die on Namek.
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>>223935440
the dragon balls and the dragons within them are not evil, the shadow dragons were the result of the constant misuse of the dragon balls, it's a force of nature that was out of balance you fucking sperg.
>>223935408
vegeta is goku's opposite, the yin to his yang, it's classical storytelling.
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>>223935587

More humiliation.
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>>223928072
What has always intrigued me is he’s only interested in fighting—even more so than Goku—so how does he know how to make Japanese food? He isn’t even from earth.
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>>223931629
Dragon Ball Z already had tons of this dog shit. The anime should have ended after Namek.
>"Hey remember that insanely lengthy battle where goku finally triumphed over the most powerful force of evil in the universe? Yeah well, just kidding. He's actually alive and back with his dad, only to be beaten again in a few episodes this time!"
Retarded dogshit. After Namek, DBZ feels like fanfiction.
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>Toei is remaking this again
>Latinx are watching it again and making threads about it on every board they can
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>>223935791
the problem with ending at namek/saiyan/frieza is you end on such a high peak that you have to keep going, it's not a satisfying ending with goku turning super saiyan only at the end. the buu saga is a better ending, the stakes were higher, the resolution was more satisfying, it was the right point to end it.
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>>223935791
dragon ball and znamek afterwards is basically the full story everything after is just extra dlc made to milk but can still be fun at times
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>>223935587
People in /dbs/ are always finding new ways to shit on Vegeta. One of which is forcing completely random anime "girls" on Vegeta. One of which was Giselle. This was a massive mistake as it attracted a mentally ill troon that took it seriously, constantly spamming the threads with Gigi trash. He gets banned immediately in Dragon Ball threads now, I think he just talks to himself in Bleach threads now.
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>>223935791
Absolutely pretentious.
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Can Goku beat Michael the Archangel from our reality?
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>>223928072
Short kings wins again!
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>>223934085
Because it was originally badly done?
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>>223935408
He gave his strongest soldier the toughest battles.
Vegeta is the character with the best character development in the whole series.
>>223935587
There is a joke that Vegeta is the same size and weights the same as Astolfo and since the Bleach anime was ongoing at that time this faggot was the FOTM trap so they paired Vegeta with him.
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>>223928186
They removed Vegeta from scenes. His number of appearances are reduced. He has been cucked out of appearing in the anime.

>>223928239
He's not reading anything wrong at all, you're just genuinely stupid.
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>>223928072
>Dragon Ball Super: Beerus
There's ANOTHER Dragon Ball Super series? Wasn't Dragon Ball Super just a remake of Dragon Ball Z with worse animation? Are they remaking Dragon Ball Super and making it even worse or what? How many times will they remake remakes of remakes of DBZ?
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>>223936598
Super was a continuation of the story after DBZ, DBS:Beerus is a remake because the anime was really badly made.
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>>223932011
No it was just a shit decision for the character that is rightfully hated. It's ok to have shit taste, but at least know you have it my retard friend
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>>223935791
im pretty sure they only did this to show how strong trunks was
it was still stupid as fuck though
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>>223936598
You're thinking of Kai, Super is a continuation of Z offered as an alternate to GT with the marketing justification that it was "plotted" by Toriyama but just seems like he was checked out completely.
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>>223928072
That's cool but super is still shit
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>>223936463
>Vegeta is the character with the best character development in the whole series.
Not even close, that honor goes to Piccolo
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>>223928600
Because most people are retards
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>>223932011
>defends super
>calls others idiots
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>>223936798
>piccolo
>character development
not after dragonball lol
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>>223937078
What the fuck are you on about? Pretty much all his development happens in Z.
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>>223937029
Why do you think Super is bad?
>NTA
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>>223934620
vegeta sneaking and dogwalking all of his ex co-workers was a generational run
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>>223936598
Dragon Ball super was a remake of the the Battle of Gods and Resurrection of Frieza movies
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ok but how is this /tv/???
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>>223938153
You literally watch it in a television, retard.
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>>223935515
Wasn't it meant to end with raditz?
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Bajeeta became reo Speedwagon
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>>223936008
Now you're thinking like the editors and not the guy who wanted to do gag comedy with an action dressing.
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>>223935791
>>223936008
Something*** needed to happen after the Namek Saga and we got the Cyborg Saga and Cell which were great. Cyborg Frieza fits into the cyborg saga to help establish Trunks and Cell was the perfect time to end the series because it ends with Goku passing the torch to Gohan. The Buu Saga was just retarded.
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>>223936294
Only one even remotely in the same bracket of power is Zly.
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>>223936694
Couldn't just chop up 4~ movies and turn them into 12 episodes, no they had to re-animate it (cheaply), extend it to 50 episodes + adapt "token protege's" continuation manga, and THEN remake it. Toei just master planning the milking cycle. 10 years from now they'll do it again.
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>>223928072
What about the game?
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What if Goku secretly wished on the great dragon that bajeeta became homosexual. What would bajeeta do?
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>>223939560
Nothing would change.
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>>223928072
that's even more humiliating
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>>223936798
He’s basically the Son family’s manservant at this point. Vegeta became his own man, never letting go of his pride, but not letting it rule him, starting his own family in the process.
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Reminder that if you call Vegeta "Bajeeta" or "Bajita", you are Mexican.
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>>223935515
No it wasn’t. There are a ton of “It was supposed to end after…” moments, but it was always a series that was going to continue in perpetuity until either the public lost interest, or Toriyama gassed out, and the latter finally happened with Buu.
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>>223939492
The editors are the ones who made it popular.
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>>223939771
But if you call Bejita "Bejita" you are white.
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if you call any of the characters by their names you are a gay homosexual
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>>223939835
You will never be white, Pedro.
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>>223928072
Bejita has had a long history of being a punching bag. Toriyama & Toyotaro were self-aware enough that they made Ultra Ego for him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx-9TrZzbwM
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>>223940036
he will when he's arrested
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>>223940189
Any forms after Super Saiyan 3 were trash
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>>223940416
Ultra Instinct/Ultra Ego are great, but I'm not a fan of the rest. Beast Gohan in particular looks ridiculous, like something that would have been in a Newgrounds DBZ parody cartoon in the 00s.
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>>223940481
The problem with Beast Gohan is his hair is too big.
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>Gohan stands up to Frieza and orders him around like a bitch
>Bejita is trembling in fear, shitting his pants at the mere idea of having to fight Frieza

Why are people acting like this character ever had any dignity? Krillin was more willing to fight Frieza than Vegeta (also did more damage to Frieza than Vegeta)



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