If you had to rewrite the script to this movie what would you change?
1. It's unbelievable that there is a 2nd stunningly attractive woman who is actually genuinely into him. This undermines his identity as an incel loser. So she needs to go or be reworked to be fat or something.2. When he's trying to get other people to wish for him he refuses to explain things for seemingly no reason. For example he could just walk up to someone and say "for $100 just say 'I wish everything went back to the way it was 3mo ago'" or whatever. Maybe wave a camera in their face to make it more convincing.So that needs to be addressed in some way. Explain why the character cannot do this. Otherwise it's just a plot hole.3. I feel like the movie is pretty lose with the mechanics of the possession. Like why does she feed him the cat? The demon does not otherwise act maliciously. It's not ever shown to be a monkeys paw. And if it's the real Nicky poking through then why are we later shown she can only poke through during some kind of weird night terror situationJust seems sloppy and needs to be tightened up
That the magic stick didn't even work.
>>223954686>This undermines his identity as an incel loser.I don't think it's actually the intention of the movie to frame him as an "incel loser," that's come almost entirely out of the online discourse about the film. He's an attractive guy who has friends and a social life, it's not at all unbelievable that a pretty girl likes him, he's just a huge pussy about actually expressing himself to his crush.
If I were in charge of casting I’d make bear fat as fuck because it would be funny. Maybe even make him a black Yugioh nerd
>>223954547I’d make people react appropriately to what’s happening to NikkiRemove the dialogue that doesn’t make sense like Ian showing up at Bear’s door like “dude it actually worked I got a billion dollars” as if Bear wasn’t right there watching it happenGet rid of the catRemove the plot point about Ian fucking Nikki
>>223954547Nikki get iPad
>>223954686>I feel like the movie is pretty lose with the mechanics of the possession. Like why does she feed him the cat? The demon does not otherwise act maliciously. It's not ever shown to be a monkeys paw. This is a great point and I felt like it was just shock for the sake of it. I would also make it more clear what the point of the cat’s death at the beginning/the one wish willow company being named after a cat/and then Bear dying the same way as his cat had some apparent purpose but doesn’t in the movie. Also I would cast Bear as a truly unfuckable fatass like Stav, the raping scene would hit people 10x harder seeing his fatass on top of Nikki
>>223954869Let's be real, she was clearly possessed by the cat. Ignore all future death of the author explanations.
explore more deeply the dimension or condition she's trapped in. it seemed more than just a being john malkovich scenario, it seemed brutal
>>223954547he just wishes it as he goes to sleep or playing ouija or some shit. none of that on tree willow bullshit.Demon is consistent, not this "real nikki fighting inside of her, tryna warn Bear n shit"Also have her walk on all fours at times, when doing the creepy movement.change the "Bear" name. Fucking bullshit, guy looks like Corporal Upham.have her show her tits and jump up and down at various points in the movie.
>>223954547I would change the scene where she does that one thing and he does that other thing.It would be wildly funny.
>>223954869the way the cat died in the first place is stupid. it apparently knocked an open bottle of oxy off the counter, and somehow ate enough to kill itself?
>>223954971whoever wrote that has clearly never tried to get a cat to take a pill on purpose
>>223954547I would write her to actually be obsessed with him and not possessed by some entity that likes to shit itself and make stupid faces all the time
>>223954686>>223954869Bear isn't supposed be super off-putting or disgusting, he's supposed to be flawed but relatable. It's a more effective movie because viewers can easily imagine themselves making a lot of the same choices and mistakes he does
>>223954547I would leave the supernatural elements utterly ambiguous, so the audience is constantly questioning whether the wish was real or if Nikki was just fucked in the head.
>>223954686>It's unbelievable that there is a 2nd stunningly attractive woman who is actually genuinely into him.Not only that they clearly have more chemistry. I know oneitis infatuations don't work on logic but the only reason he would pay attention to Nikki over Sarah is if Sarah was gross but she isn't. They just weren't brave enough to cast an ugly chick even though it would've worked a lot more.
>>223955225>if Sarah was grossSarah was pretty gross.
>>223955233She's clearly not. Tattoos take the character down a peg but meh still hot. Yeah, Nikki is hotter but not dramatically so. Not so much that you would completely ignore Sarah's obvious advances and stronger chemistry to chase her instead.
>>223955225He would pay attention to Nikki over Sarah simply because the infatuation with Nikki happened first, so it sort of takes up the space and time in your head and emotional investment which could go to someone else.My high school oneitis who I never had any chance with caused me to pass up real opportunities with some other girls who were very attractive too, including one who straight up told me she liked me
>>223954547Drop the supernatural aspect altogether, the reason the woman becomes obsessed with him is because shes being blackmailed by the same people who makes those wishes somehow
>>223955015Depends on the cat. Gene Hackman’s cat ate a bunch of pills in his bathroom when him and his wife were dead and died.
>>223954547the bitch in your pic would be naked from the opening to the end credits. and she would be having loads of sex, a lot of it lesbian. also delete all the scenes with the faggot. just remove him from the movie. I wasnt really paying attention in the theater
>>223954547I would make bear a chad just to see the alternative female audience reaction and analysis
>>223954547Why does an independent musical instrument retail business in 2026 need four staff members on the sales floor for a weekday? There's no way they sell enough inventory to justify that volume of staff. They'd be standing around doing nothing most of their shifts. Really had to suspend my sense of disbelief for that one.
>>223955473In Ohio too haha
>>223954547>what would you changeprobably change the dialog to sound more like it did when I was that age 20 years ago
>>223954939Bear is a nickname. His name is Baron.>Hurr durr Das not a name. Name heem Hector mang
>>223955465Did Bear really think he was entitled to her? He made an off the cuff wish without any real consideration moments after making a wish on a device he almost certainly presumed to be a scam. Let's say the device claimed to make 3 wishes come true and he'd made two small off the cuff wishes that came true and at that moment, knowing for sure that he would take away her free will, he made a wish that she would love him then I could see him being a villain. He's almost as much a victim of the wish thingo as Nikki.
>>223955473I noticed that too, there was no way that store had that many employees, it made no sense
>>223955516I’m guessing the record store was the only place they could rent out cheap for filming
>>223955473I wanna work at a music store.
>>223954547I would blow my brains out so I never wrote another script.
>>223954547Add extended uncensored anal scene
>>223955671
>>223954547Nikki cooks Bear's pet rabbit on the stove like in Fatal Attraction then cooks his dog and his hamster and a parrot and a few badgers and maybe a dolphin and some penguins
>>223954686Every Latinx actor has the built-in weight gain issue to be bounced off of.
I'd present it from Nikki's perspective, not Bear's.
>>223954547The movie was fuckin stupid. Why was she doing weird movements for seemingly no reason? Why couldn't she go to the bathroom without bear around? The wish made her love him but it doesn't make sense for it to remove her autonomy.
>>223956729Bear was making it difficult for the wish to work so it overcompensated and fractured her entire sense of reason.Who wishes for a girl to love them and then immediately rejects them when it works? I wanted to reach into the screen and strangle that motherfucker.
>>223956773>Bear was making it difficult for the wish to workHow so?
>>223954547all Bear had to do was not be an idiot and just subdue Nikki until he can figure out what to do
Brap Queen.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLGBZTcLrvY
>>223954547Id make it the girl a famous celebrity like Taylor Swift and the guy wants her to fall in love with him even though they never metthen the film become a wacky comedy where a super rich celeb falls in love with a total loser
>>223954547SAAAAARRS
I'd probably have the guy Nikki was constantly having sex with look more attractive than this goober. It completely took me out of the movie, like, get real
>>223954547i would have it so Indie personally walks into the theatre and pegs me to death
>>223955420that's different because that particular cat was suffering from the unbearable grief of losing its owners, it was an intentional suicide
>>223954547- replace the main actress with someone more scary- make a script worthy of a movie instead of twilight zone episode
>>223957105>she doesn't even register themI wanted her to describe how pungent each one was but she must drop her guts so often that she just constantly reeks of shit
>>223954745>t. fat as fuck black yugioh nerd
>I wish Nikki Freeman loved me more than anyone in the fucking world. And that she had massive milkers
It's so fucking simple.One Wish Willow --> One FISH Willow>Bear wishes for Nikki to love him>Instead he gets a full-size sturgeon>Nikki is suitably impressed... initially>But when Bear cannot consistently produce fish, she realizes that he's not what she needs and breaks up with him>This leads Bear into a DARK PATH of attempting to learn to fish from expert fisherman Ian and sucking at it.The movie makes a lot more sense with that extra detail.
Make her an anal only whore who demands anal cumdumps every hour of the day
>>223954547movie is misandrist propaganda
>>223954547he would survive cause he did literally nothing wrong
4th wall break where a group of masked thugs storm the set and beat the director to bloody pulp in real life
>>223954686>3. I feel like the movie is pretty lose with the mechanics of the possession. Like why does she feed him the cat? The demon does not otherwise act maliciously. It's not ever shown to be a monkeys paw. And if it's the real Nicky poking through then why are we later shown she can only poke through during some kind of weird night terror situationJust seems sloppy and needs to be tightened upIt's heavily implied that the real Nicky is a fucking nutcase and her psychotic behaviour isn't the wish controlling her it's just her own second nature. There is no "Demon". The wish made her madly fall in love, that's it.Those moments where she acts horrified or stable are just moments where she managed to regain herself.
>>223954547I would show bobs
>>223954547Probably the main thing is what I thought the plot twist was going to be: Nikki is only so nuts because of the wording of the wish, "I wish Nikki would love me more than anyone else." So I was betting that Sarah was already secretly almost as obsessed with Bear, making Nikki be just super nuts.
>>223955515Modern audience is simply too politically captured and has reductively turned the movie into "entitled incel men" instead of abusive relationships in general. A girl I know saw the movie for the first time over the weekend. She comes into the office and the first thing she says about it is that "it's a problem so many women face."
>>223954547I would make it not a slop horror movie and just actually deliver on the fun premise. Have the plot go in a bunch if different directions and scenarios instead of just spinning its wheels around a couple spoopy creepy horror scenes
>>223954547"I wish for a billion dollars"*snap*[Awkward silence as nothing happens]
>>223959215>a billion doll hairs fall from the ceiling
>>223959223>10 inch pianist enters the room
>>223954547Bear just packs up his car and fucks off. Sequel is possessed Nikki searching the globe for him like that really slow snail that kills you if it touches you.
Remove the friend winning money. Wishes aren't real. The entire thing is Bear on a drug binge. It's so much better without adding in magic.
>>223954547more sloppy top and less talky talk
I had oneitis. Someone who never received genuine affection will never believe a girl is attracted to them and will be dismissive. I had one literally lick my face and still didn't take it as serious.I'm pretty sure the name is from that meme of retarded girls picking the bear.
>>223955620you can do that now.
>>223954547I'd write a scene where Bear stumbles on Nikki (Inde Navarrette) giving a(n unsimulated) blowjob to a random extra (played by me)
>>223954547I don't think I will change anything, it becomes a bit boring as it goes on but it's not a terrible film, maybe show off the consequences with the girl either commits suicide or being driven to jail, but other than that, it's fine the way it is.
>>223959457I'm going to have to add an extra scene afterwards where Nikki is with Cat and they discuss the size and taste of the unsimulated blowjob.
It's not too late to do this in a sequel>instead of just following 1 idea related to wish magic, make it anthology horror so you don't have to stretch the story out so much and can focus on different characters whose lives overlap >10 million women all wish for the same male celebrity to love them, he's stuck 24/7 rotating through all of them, telling them the same thingsthey did a lot of good stuff in the movie, the part about friends not using their wishes to help someone was true to life
>>223959592>10 million womenBut the wish stick is only sold at select shops, and it's not like it's advertised and believed to be true, but the premise definitely works as a franchise.
>>223954547Cast a woman to play Bear. Everything else the same.
>>223954738This. The point the movie is trying to make is this guy had his mind set and he was willing to do anything to get whathe wanted. He could have been the elephant man or Keaneu reeves. Doesn't matter, that's not the point. It's the age old tale of "careful what you wish for". You guys here are worse than women, instantly gaugeind and judging everything on looks in an instant. You are easy to mislead. I'm sure some people take advantage of that...but what do I know.
>>223954547I would delete it
>>223954686>>223958903>I feel like the movie is pretty lose with the mechanics of the possessionthe director said specifically that the willow was not a monkey's paw and the only reason Bear's went so off the rails was because of how legitimately fucked up his wish was. I took her feeding him the cat and the other stuff like that as the real her coming out, like the handful of times she randomly screams in horror at him>undermines his identity as an incel loserthat was never the intention of the movie which is what makes the reaction from TikTok cunts online all the more annoying, the same women who a few months later jumped on the "I support Lindsay Clancy" and "I am Jane Doe" trendsit did make the reaction that much funnier when Universal added Nikki to their horror villains line up at Universal Horror Nights
>>223954547Have bear able to puss out of his suicide and have freaky Nikki and Not Bear stuck as prisoners inside themselves while their shells go off to have their happy ending, which would probably just be them holding each other till they both starve to death
>>223954547Protag kills her and goes on living his life like a psycho but she comes back as a zombie.
Feels like these threads have become therapy sessions for anons still seething about the incel angle so they have to nitpick everything that's actually explained in the movie.>>223954686>1. It's unbelievable that there is a 2nd stunningly attractive woman who is actually genuinely into him.Not at all. Sarah was hot but she wasn't the outgoing miss prom queen like Nikki who personality wise fit better with Ian which was why they were already fucking before the movie begins. Male shut ins here have difficulty understanding real life isn't Tinder and Instagram or there wouldn't be 8 billion people in the world.>2. When he's trying to get other people to wish for him he refuses to explain things for seemingly no reason.I'm starting to think you didn't watch the movie. He did explain things to Ian very concisely and even instructed him to wish that "my friend Baron" had never made the wish. Ian obviously didn't believe him at first because why would he plus he was upset with Bear, so he sarcastically wishes for a billion dollars thinking nothing was going to happen. It sounds like you think Bear should've instead walked up to random people on the street and asked them for help by giving them money. I think it's a good thing you're not a writer.>3. I feel like the movie is pretty lose with the mechanics of the possession. Like why does she feed him the cat?How many times do we need to go over this? The polaroids she put in Bear's lunch box very strongly hints it was the real Nikki who made him the cat sandwich as revenge for fucking her the night before.>why are we later shown she can only poke through during some kind of weird night terror situationThe real Nikki breaking through and taking control back from Wish Nikki happens at multiple points throughout the movie. You would know that if you had watched it.
>>223954770>Ian showing up at Bear’s door like “dude it actually worked I got a billion dollars” as if Bear wasn’t right there watching it happenIt could've been monopoly money and there was no way to properly verify the money was real until the rain had stopped. Makes perfect sense honestly.
>>223954869>I would also make it more clear what the point of the cat’s death at the beginningThe simple explanation is that it was just another tool of many that Barker could've used in his script for weird and creepy stuff to happen and for Bear and Nikki to bond over and give us the first hint that Sarah was into Bear when she hugs him lovingly at the bar. The cat was used to drive the plot forward, to establish and develop relationships between the characters and to show us what type of person Bear is, and also foreshadowing his eventual death. That's called writing 101, not the movie's fault you're too retarded to understand basic storytelling.>the one wish willow company being named after a catIt wasn't named after a cat, it was named after Barker and Tomlinson's Youtube channel: TABI is short for "that's a bad idea", and it was called TABI Cat because it's a toy manufacturer and that sounds like the name of a company that would make and sell toys to kids.>and then Bear dying the same way as his cat had some apparent purpose but doesn’t in the movie.No, you're the retard looking for themes where there are none. Bear took the same pills to commit suicide that his cat died from because he knew they would work for that purpose and he was too chickenshit to shoot himself with a gun. That's it.
Bear wishes to titfuck the shit out of Nikki, the movie is an hour of him fucking her tits until she loses control of her bowels and starts crying, credits
>>223954686>2nd stunningly attractive womanOh no no no
>>223954547No supernatural elements but it's still somehow partially his fault, in an ambiguous way.Like he knew she had BPD or something and that was what drew him to her.
>>223958465FUND IT
>>223954547I'd write it so she is my gf and there is no magic and also my dick is 10 inches and I'm a billionaire
>>223957838It would fit if he was a low level drug dealer selling Xanax to teenagers or something.
>>223954547more armpit licking scenesalso cast myself as the leadcase and point >>223960623
>>223954547I would have kept all the sex scenes from the original script that Barker decided to cut out last min. Zoomers and hating sex scenes be damn.
>>223957838> It completely took me out of the movie, like, get realgo outside, homie
>>223955313Okay, but big tits. Checkmate.
>>223956729Dude you have maladjusted autists shitting and pissing their pants while playing vidya, it's called O B S E S S I O N.
>>223954547heaps more sex scenes with every angle explored by bear, she prob should get preggers too.
>>223958902uhoh, incel chuddy melty
>>223954547I would change it so that his cat wasn't killed but raped
On this board we're fwb with Ian
>bear fakes his death very convincinglymovie solved
>>223961762So a drug dealer like >>223961110 said
>>223958090Most oppressed class in America btw.
>>223961736I don’t get why he cut them out . Wonder if Indy wasn’t cool doing them
>>223961736I think it has more to do with the pacing so one sex scene was enough
>>223963754My guess is his dad suggested he cut them out. I know Barker would ask him for advice on shit. I believe his dad was the one who suggested Nikki should live instead of die at the end.
>>223954547Haven't seen it. Don't like "teen" movies.Even when i was a teen i hated them.
Foidtrannies call Bear a rapist but this movie about an undatebeable nerd going back in time and redoing interactions until he mindrapes women into liking him has a 4.1 on Letterboxd
>>223965318is that the one where the guy with time traveling super powers has the chance to have sex with 18yo Margot Robbie (she's into him) but refuses because it's "not right" despite the fact that he could literally rewind time so it would have no consequences anyway
