Seriously, what would make even Elon think it was a good idea to post that slop online?
>>223956694Echochamber full of brown nosed brown nosing jeets
>>223956694AI slop is devoid of any effort. its the epitome of soulless. this is very obvious. Its in the same bag as marvel green screen slop.You can still enjoy a bad movie by how its made. But bad AI is just boring
>make photorealistic humans performing accurate tasks visually while lipsyncing their realistic generated voices with emotional tonality surrounded by scenery of like quality>it's not immediately compelling like the greatest films ever madegrrrr AI will always be incapable of replacing...*checks long list of scratched off careers* directors!
>>223956694It can't make art, but neither can Nolan. Yet here we are
Post a webm or something. Twitter never stopped being gay
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>>223956997https://gofile.io/d/7V3JR3CJ
Even if it could make something good people wouldn’t acknowledge that it’s good. They’ve already made their minds.
>>223956694You can take the indians out of Bollywood, but you can't take the Bollywood out of indians
>>223956694AI can make arthttps://youtu.be/kkwXVExCjg4
I think this stuff is very nicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2OcgB0-jFk
>>223956703It's afraid
>>223957091The only people who are afraid of your ilk are germophobes.
>>223956694Because societies across the world have now diverged in their brain chemistry. Normal human beings will see literally anything generated by AI as repulsive and irredeemable trash. Images, videos, music, all garbage. And then there's another group of subhumans that unironically like how AI slop looks and sounds.
>>223956694>Seriously, what would make even Elon think it was a good idea to post that slop online?These threads and uploads on YouTube.
>>223956905>make shit>it's shitOH BUT NOT OUR GROK, COULDN'T BE PRECIOUS GROK!
>supposed to be an "accurate version of The Odyssey">starts with...Odysseus leaving Ithaca for Troy
>>223957014No, you refuse to accept that it can never make anything good. People aren't refusing to acknowledge "good" AI slop. There is no such thing.
>>223957014No, there are some AI animations I find neat.But it's never gonna replace traditional animation, much less live action.
>>223957459NTA, but I think some AI music actually sounds good. I can admit my tastes are pretty basic and I don't have a technical understanding of music theory in the slightest, but if it gets your toe tapping why shouldn't you enjoy it?
>>223956694Too be fair Nolan can't make art either
>>223956727If you weren't told this was AI, you wouldn't have even known.
>>223956694It is art. Why else talk about "AI art?" Most people do not have any coherent idea of art and just see it as thia vaguely divine thing. In modern times, art can be almost purely accidental. It has been completely abstracted from its original ancient concept of technique. The problem is that it is effortless, not an achievement except perhaps that humans managed to create a machine that can generate these videos, but AI art is specifically more often used in mediums where skill is in demand.
>>223956694Newspaper article headline from the late 90s;>Pets.com Just Proved To The World That No One Wants To Shop OnlineOoooof
>>223957445I often forget that rhere are way too many people who think that the mass of humans live in a vaccuum and that any change in their undulations is to be interpreted as conspiratorial in origin.
>>223956694The issue is that the AI is still in its infancy and so is Elon Musk.
>>223957755Bollywood is effortless, yes, poojeet.
>>223957450It's not though. You're just angry because you know it's AI, and double-angry because Musk's name is attached in some way.
>>223956694>I-ITS NOT ART, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO THINK IT'S COOL OR FUN>p-pleasekill these vermin
>>223956694>still has the same washed out Hollywood look with no colorsWhat was the point
>>223956694>fartsniffers from The Independent tell the cattle what to thinkNah, fuck them and fuck you for this retarded useless thread.
>>223957014>Even if it could make something good people wouldn’t acknowledge that it’s good. Terminally-online shriekers who have made crying about AI existing their entire personality aren't really what I would call "people", but whatever.
>>223956694great, so now artists can shut up about being threatened by it, right?
AI novels are winning book prizes left and right lmao
>>223956727Bad art is soulless and worthless. AI can shit out nonsense and still be better to look at than some arthoe's deviantart page
>>223957764If they don't have speakers blasting out the Kung Fu Fighting song while they do it then what's the point.
>New AI Model gets a cool tech-demo>Trannies in /tv/: "REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!"Saw this reaction coming from a mile away.Kek, imagine unironically shitting yourself in absolute impotent anger over the fact that 1's and 0's made some moving pictures.
>>223956905Kek, thread was over by the third post. Everyone go home.
>>223957782No, the issue with AI is it is fundamentally incompatible with art. AI will never be able to get rid of the AIness of anything it generates. You cannot math your way into "That feels just right." The process of sitting in front of a computer screen for 5 hours testing out shades of blue until you land on something that "feels right" is fundamentally impossible for AI to replicate. It literally goes against its core function of speed and efficiency. For fuck's sake, even the fucking poojeets and chinks don't like the AI-generated stitched together crap that their domestic cinemas are pushing out.
>>223957816Of course not. They want the self contradictory narrative that allows them to have their cake AND eat it too.>"AI is a threat to artists!!!"so they can play the victim role and thus appear """sympathetic""">"AI is shit and will always be shit just by virtue of being AI, and will NEVER replace us irreplaceable, soulful artists!..."so they can have their sense of superiority and maintain their pride.
The short itself is shit, but that's the fault of the people who wrote it. The technolgy itself is impressive. I don't think anyone can say in any seriousness that this won't completely change moviemaking, at least for commercial circuits. Do you think the people who go see Marvel movies care that a robot wrote the movie, or generated the sets, or anything else? Actors may take longer to be removed because celebrities are still a draw, but that will eventually go, too, simply because it'll be much more budget efficient to create what's essentially V-Tubers but actors rather than pay a billion to DiCaprio or whoever.
>>223957872>AI will never be able to get rid of the AIness of anything it generatesLmao, it'll never get hands correct either, right?
>>223957896The slop you retards are so proud of today looks even more repulsive than ever. I guess that's what happens when AI gets more efficient at what it thinks looks good.
>>223957872You do know that AI workflows go beyond bare prompting, right?If someone wants to tweak an AI scene so it would have a proper shade of blue that can absolutely do that.
Its funny because with AI we could finally make them speak ancient greek and a lot of limitations that depend on the actors not being able to learn shit like that correctly or it taking a lot of time, and even in the version people call "correct" they just make them speak english because people are too illiterate for subtitles.I think thats the sort of stuff Im most hyped about AI doing right
>>223957872>AI will never be able to get rid of the AIness of anything it generates. You cannot math your way into "That feels just right." No shit, retard. That's the job of the human USING the AI as a tool, not the AI itself. The AI's job & function is to "generate the images defined by the human user with the most accuracy possible".
>>223957915Show me one good AI-prompted movie. Go.
>>223957906You are shooting yourself on the foot if you restrict criticism of AI art to just looking shit because you'll get BTFO at each technical improvement. As is we'll be forced to face exactly to what extent the fact of authorship itself impacts the audience's experience of an artwork. It probably matters more in some kinds of work than in others.
>>223957924I don't watch AI slop.
>>223957915Bro, you're talking to somebody who not only thinks emotionally rather than rationally, but who (ironically) lacks imagination.Anti-AI cultists are so lacking in imagination that they often genuinely cannot extrapolate or make even basic predictions regarding how a new piece of technology can potentially be used. That's because the vast, VAST majority of people in the anti-AI cult aren't artists; they just LARP is one on the internet in order to bandwagon-jump and feel a false sense of superiority to other human-beings. In the few that aren't LARPing are the dogshit ones doing furry-porn commissions, i.e. the only "artists" that are genuinely "threatened" by Generative AI.
>>223957927When do we see these technical improvements? Because the prompted crap that I'm always forced to be exposed to because you subhuman monkeys really love to throw your faeces around look worse every single time. You do understand I know what you stupid motherfuckers are looking at as well, right? Mostly because you dumb niggers can't help yourself but shove your crap everywhere, thinking>this, now this is what will convert them to loving my slop!
>>223957924>Guy says something>Demand something completely unrelated as evidenceRetard.And that's ignoring for the second that even if your demand WAS actually coherent to the current argument, it would STILL be invalid. Becsuse what you're demanding is instead "Show me something that I will THINK is 'good' and will even outright admit is 'good'". You've kind of already proven yourself to be massively biased on this issue. No matter what anybody shows you you're just going to freak about how "shitty" it is.Thankfully your opinion is irrelevant anyway, because it turns out that you; some random NEET on 4chan, and your personal opinions; are not the arbiter of what's good or bad or "soulful" or not "soulful" or "art" or whatever.
>>223956694>the enemy is charging, shall we lower our spears toward them?>...nah
>>223957976>If someone wants to tweak an AI scene so it would have a proper shade of blue that can absolutely do that>If someone wants to tweak an AI scene>wants to tweak an AI scene>tweak an AI scene>an AI scene
I thought it was just a bad director and bad pacing, I dont think any of the problems are inherently in the visuals or sounds, but the creator is just not a good artist and it shows. Just having a good eye for what is good and what isnt will still be valued, maybe more than ever.
>>223957946>When do we see these technical improvements?You mean the kind we've seen many of in rapid succession ALREADY? Often to the tune of multiple ones every year?Are you seriously going to try and argue that AI-imaging HASN'T drastically improved in an incredibly short amount of time? Do you not remember how quickly we went from psychedelic, eerie DMT-looking images that vaguely resembled photos of people's pet dogs and distorted, uncanny footage of Will Smith eating spaghetti, to where we are now? Do you not remember how ardently people argued "AI will NEVER be able to get hands right!!!"? Exactly as ardently as you're making your arguments right now, in fact? Are you really THAT lacking in self-awareness?
>>223957992I don't get what you're trying to communicate here. You seem to be hyper focusing on a singular piece of the previous conversation, as if it meant something significant.Are you ESL or something? What, specifically, are you trying to communicate by highlighting that fragment of a previously discussed sentence? Spell it out for us. Because you apparently lack the kind of nuance needed to communicate it indirectly.
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>>223957942Amazingly, the people who hate AI art are the people who told us post-modernism is so great, a banana is art, anything can be art! But a robotic arm cannot tape the banana, that is NOT art!!!
>>223956727The biggest problem is that AI is inherently unable to create new things. It's just a glorified search engine that mashes preexisting things together with no concept of how or why those things were made the way they were in the first place. It's derivative and unoriginal and uninteresting by its very nature
>>223958025>Cartoonbrew>faggy 21st century leftist cartoon pedos lecturing about artyay internet>>223958048You are the dumbest person alive right now. Niggers are way above you.
>>223958048AI novels are winning literature prizes and only being detected months after the fact. Cope.
>the people interested in AI and its capabilities ITT, or just NOT histrionic about it, are the ones posting saliently & coherently, elaborating on their points, making actual solid arguments, etc.>the anti-AI cultists ITT are the ones using flimsy at best and outright incoherent arguments at worst, making completely unfounded statements and just kind of leaving it at that, relying on fallacies and hyper-emotional reasoning, etc.Every single thread like this seems to consist of the same, and that makes sense, because this also mirrors what I tend to observe IRL about this """debate""".
>>223958048Thing is that so are most people. A sizeable proportion of hollywood movies are just remakes, a big proportion are just taking stories and putting them in a different setting like basically all of Tarantino copying old japanese movies, etc. Thats already true for like 90% of movies, AI wont change the fact that people can be talentless hacks.
>>223958055>Your facts don't count because...well they just don't okay?! Now please by my Anthropic stocks!
>>223956694>AI can'tI'm not a fan of AI but this is pure copiumAI gens used to look like acid trips just a few years ago, it has gotten incredibly good is such little time and will continue to get exponentially better
>>223958056>literature prizesaka DEI checklists. AI can churn out that material, though the judges are probably more concerned with the author's identity traits than the text anyway.
>>223958091I burn, and run, local. Fuck US companies.
>>223958060t. Had a melty because someone asked for a good looking ai movie.
>>223956694>Seriously, what would make even Elon think...>Elon>thinkAs if.
>>223958041This. This "Is AI Art *actually* Art?!?!"-debate is not only long over & settled as far as I'm concerned, but it was settled more than 100 years ago in fact.The answer is "Yes, AI art is definitely art", and that conclusion was reached more than 100 years ago because at that time the "Art World" apparently decided that stupid fucking bullshit like THIS was "art", and even went so far as to say that if you disagreed and insisted that it wasn't "art" then you would be labeled the """fascist""" and to be blacklisted from the academic world.So yes, AI art IS indeed art. Because if shit like a bicycle wheel tacked onto a stool, a banana duct tape to the wall, or a mass-produced urinal with naught done to it but the artist's signature written upon it, are all not only "art" but apparently SO MUCH the definition of "art" that only a fascist would disagree, then YOU BET YOUR ASS the shit people are currently producing with AI count as "art". There's more "art" there than there was in the stupid bullshit we had defining the term even 100+ years ago.
>>223958048Humans are "unable to create new things". Literally everything that they come up with that is supposedly "original" is literally just a rearranged and reformatted collective of the various kinds of data they have already been exposed to and integrated into their memory.We can argue that semantics of the meaning behind "originality" and "creativity" and shit like that all day long, faggot. It won't get your argument anywhere.
>>223958089Theres a reason most pitches go "its the goonies meets jason" to describe what they are going after, art is iterations in most cases.I believe AI can create stuff but I dont know if it will ever be a good judge to know what will and wont be liked by people. There is an argument to be said that it may be easier for AI to change people's tastes to suit what it creates (via marketing, etc.) rather than the other way around, which is a scary thought
>>223958145Going to the logical conclusion. Anti-AI art = nazi collabo art burning ableist anti-progressive.
>>223958145"High art" auctions have been crashing in price ever since chinese millionaires stopped buying them for money laundering. Your whataboutism isn't as strong as you think it is, because all the surreal art in museums are there for nepotism- and money laundering reasons.
>>223958188Damn I made it sound too cool. Scratch that.
>ai trannies coping and seething ittanother day another ai Lyou lost
>>223958138You're right. His time is probably so filled up with just counting his trillion+ pole of dollars that he's got no time for "thinking". Hell, why not just pay people to do that at this point?
>>223958210You mean SI
>>223958198I don't really understand what that has to do with my argument.What does that have to do with the fact that the Art World made one of its collective decisions more than a hundred years ago, declaring that "Dadaist" low-effort bullshit anti-art WAS, in fact, "art", and then anyone who disagreed as a "fascist"? What does the selling-price of garbage-art in the modern era have to do with the philosophy of the debate, or the philosophy of the debate more than 100 years ago? What does it have to do with anything?
>>223958145Fun Fact!Someone tossed out Duchamp's "R. Mutt 1917" Urinal after it's original exhibition. What is on display in some museums are replicas based on photographs.Another Fun Fact!The vast majority of people, so vehemently against, "AI Art" don't know shit about Art History.
>>223958145SOWWY SWEATY... but... uh!? You saved and posted a picture of that piece of art! Uhm... that means... uhm... think about it with your BBB (Big Beautiful Brain)... uhm... yeah! E X A C T L Y !!! That means that it stirred something in you! Maybe frustration at your inadequacies? Who knows! But it's been academically proven that if it causes emotions... that's correct... that means it's ART!Sooooo..... stfu talking about things you don't know. Maybe get an education you flyover trailer park trash boi...
>>223958188Lmao, this.Maybe this is the narrative we ought to collectively start pushing. Leftists will NOT like the fact that they are being accused of being "fascists" with a historical precedent that they doubtlessly agree with being used as the justification, kek.
>>223956694I cant wait to make ny own movies. I think im going to sign up to grok imagine when I get off work. I wabt to see agent smith fight sauron.
>>223958261You should get MiniMax H3 instead. It's better.
>>223958008If the putrid garbage I've been forced to see is improvement, we're really never going to see a good AI movie. I'm sure your broken poojeet brain will never comprehend what normal human beings mean when they say your pile of shit looks like shit.
>>223956694>>223956727Based on the slop coming out of Hollywood these days, humans can't create art either.>>223957021Bollywood is unironically better than modern Hollywood
>>223958247"Art" by itself doesn't mean anything, it has always served a practical purpose of some kind, usually decorative. Beside from the obvious money laundering scheme the value of art is valued by materials, scarcity and scale. So a fresco painted by some legendary dude is more valuable than a painting done by a nobody.And thats why AI art is garbage, because its just reheating someone else's already made dinner. Theres no real value for it because everyone can make it, nobody is going to spend money on it. Its also Public Domain by default, so everyone owns it automatically, nobody has to actually pay you for pushing AI button. The only way to make money with AI art is to fool people into thinking they're paying for legitimate art and thats why people hate "AI artists", because they're more often than not pajeet scam artists.Also for all the whining about snobby whining artists the AI prompters started acting exactly the same.
>>223956727>AI is slop
>>223958258>Leftists will NOT like the fact that they are being accused of being "fascists" with a historical precedent that they doubtlessly agree with being used as the justificationI think they're used to that routine after being labeled fascists for opposing Israel. And like the right went all in on sucking circumcised cock to own the left, they've chosen to guzzle dogshit slop art to own the "art world".
>AI Art isn't art dudeWe've done this EXACT SAME song & dance before though, even multiple times merely within the last century or so.>Photoshop isn't art dude>Digital Painting isn't art dude>Techno Music isnt art dude>Performance Art isn't art dude>"Unconscious Art" isn't art dude>A bicycle-wheel mounted on a stool isn't art dude>Photography isn't art dudeI wouldn't be surprised if the damned Camera Obscura had pseudointellectual naysayers LARPing as "artists" and supposed authorities on "art" in Ancient Greece bemoaning how it was supposedly going to "destroy culture" and lead to everyone being enslaved or whatever. It's the same shit EVERY FUCKING TIME.The utter lack of self-awareness among this sequential chain of close-minded luddites is it consistent feature, regardless of the era. That includes those of this era.Every single one of those groups scoffed at the groups of naysayers that came before them as "backwards" & "on the wrong side of history" or whatever, but also were JUST AS ardent & zealous in their personal moral crusade as the people of any previous moral crusades that yhey scoffed at were. They never seem to be able to spot the unmistakable similarity between THEIR personal agenda and the failed ones of previous eras, despite how incredibly obvious it is to everyone else.
>>223958305HAHAHAHAHAHA>The day-to-night transition was created by meYou're both retarded. Like the Golden Hour hasn't existed in Photography since it's inception.>Tits or GTFO
>>223958305>artist makes the case for art actually being naked capitalism
>>223958267Dude, we get it:You're angry at the 1's and 0's (for some reason) being able to make images and moving images, and you will not change your mind about it, no matter what.Fine. Whatever. You do you. But we GET IT. We UNDERSTAND. Message recieved, Loud & Clear.Are you happy now? You've communicated to your stance, regardless of the actual value or validity of that stance. Mission successful.Can you move on now? Can you stop pretending that you're actually interested in participating in this discussion, when you so clearly aren't? Because you're wasting everyone else's time in addition to yours.
>>223958370Hey, that's really cool and all but...Basically I'm not gonna watch it (the slop you're shilling)UGH... I know... ugh I know...SORRY!! it's just that I'm not gonna watch it is all!
>>223957942>Bro, you're talking to somebody who not only thinks emotionally rather than rationally, but who (ironically) lacks imagination.art is inherently emotional though. the whole process of making art requires you to have emotions and to care about something enough to make it. people will have different definitions for what art is, but i personally see it as something that you have to expend a little bit of your soul to create. like you can't make an infinite amount of art because eventually you run out of the ability to really care. it costs a bit of your soul because making (good) art is hard and annoying, and it is essentially a form of self-harm because people are going to see something you put your soul into and shit on it and make you feel like crap.you can argue that you can do all that stuff with AI, like really put your heart into a creation and work super hard towards it, then i ask you, what was the point of using AI? the whole point of AI is that it makes things convenient and easy. if it doesn't, then it's useless. if it does, then creating art with it is impossible, just as >>223957872 said. if this whole thing sounds gay, immaterial or a waste of time to you, then don't leave art to the people who actually care about it and stay in your lane.also calling "anti-AI" a cult is funny because people have been doing genuine art for millenia while modern AI content is like 5 years old at most.i have no doubt that sentiments will eventually change and AI will eventually make marvel movie type slop that soulless bugmen want to see. it'll probably take a generation though. even then there will be snobs who want only the real thing, like how there are still people who want genuine leather, genuine diamonds, genuine meat over the synthetic/artificial alternatives
>>223958487i forgot to proofread my post with chatgpt>then leave art to the people who actually care about itfixed
>>223958305>it has always served a practical purpose of some kindLiterally antithetical to the concept of "art" according to most philosophers. In fact an incredibly large segment of the overall philosophy of the nature of Art dictates that art is completely inverse to how useful something is. Art isn't supposed to be practical or pragmatic, because it's NOT a utilitarian endeavor. It's one that's purely about aesthetic, self-expression, creativity, beauty or spirituality. Once it has a PRACTICAL use it becomes something else. If its "purpose" is to make a trendy product more beautiful or appealing, then it's no longer art but instead "product-design". If its "purpose" is to influence people to think in a certain way, then it has become "propaganda". If its "purpose" is to make money (for you OR someone else), then it has become cynical commerce or advertising.This is not a "new" philosophy on art either.>"All art is quite useless." -Oscar WildeNumerous artists have challenged this idea (Andy Warhol, Dieter Rams, Charles & Ray Eames, Raymond Loewy, etc.), but this is still an at least somewhat dominant and very much present philosophy of art within the art world.
>>223958404It has always been that. Ancient civilization people noticed that decorated vases sell better in the market compared to plain vases. A tavern with decorated walls has a nice atmosphere and thus more customers than a tavern with grey walls.Its not just "high art" that has crashing prices in auctions, old vintage cars are another one, because newer generations don't care about old racing cars the same way rich boomers do.
Let AI teach you luddites why AI art is art but also bad? good.
>>223958317>I think they're used to that routine after being labeled fascists for opposing Israel.I.e. exactly what leftists did when it came to anyone opposing Israel since before anyone here was born, all the way up to October of 2023 before doing a total 180 and suddenly belching the exact same shit you would have heard on /pol/ in 2017 or something?
>>223958506>Literally antithetical to the concept of "art" according to most philosophers.Name those philosophers. >Once it has a PRACTICAL use it becomes something else.Art is as valuable as people think it is. Ultimately when a rich roman ordered a fresco in his garden, he was paying the artist according to artists efforts and time spent making it, not by how "high art" the fresco is. You would be treated like an absolute drooling retard if you would try to argue the old frescoes that still exist today are not "real art".
>>223956694This nigga is literally the richest man in the world, why doesn't he just finance a regular movie instead and not make it woke and shit instead of doing it with this terrible AI
>>223958546>>Literally antithetical to the concept of "art" according to most philosophers.>Name those philosophers.>>223958522and many more
we had this exact same conversation about art versus digital '''art'''.now everyone accepts you can paint a nice picture in Photoshop. yeah, it's 'cheating', that's what technology is for.
>>223958487>art is inherently emotional though. Yes, and? The PHILOSOPHY of art, i.e. what's being argued about ITT, is not. Just like ANY philosophy is expected to be logical, coherent and self-consistent, at least if it wants to be taken seriously.Do you not get that? Do you not get that there's a start categorical difference between art itself (at least specifically as a form of self-expression) and the philosophy and discussion of art and its place in society?
>>223958559Plato's arguments against art were arguments for censoring certain types of art for their dangerous political ideas, not all of them. It had nothing whatsoever to do with argument of what is "real art" or not.>and many moreName them.
>>223957872this seems too earnest to be trolling.why would it always inherently have that "tell"? this really is some luddite shite>nobody will ever buy an automobile. you need the FEEL of a horse.
>>223958508Well some people think art is more than capitalism so we like ai art, serves a non monetary purpose
>>223958556Money can't buy taste.
>>223958582no, the thing specifically being argued was whether you could really create art with AI, not how it fits into society or whatever
>>223957987Spotted this too. It's weird that muh accuracy pseuds aren't sperging about this.
>>223958652Why bother when the errors are everywhere with slop anyway?
"art" now means "product" (or generously, "production").30 years ago, some Japanese dudes were making a toy where a blue hedgehog ran around on a screen. now video games are inherently art, because uhh...someone made them, i guess?
>>223958685in my art history minor my very accredited art professor who curated several big expos said art is anything that make you feel any kind of new emotion you didnt feel before engaging with the art
>>223956727you are right, but that goes for hollywood slop like LOLands Odyssey.
>>223958487>also calling "anti-AI" a cult is funny because people have been doing genuine art for millenia while modern AI content is like 5 years old at most.The comparative age that AI Art has been around vs. how long other mediums have been around is completely fucking irrelevant to the fact that the anti--AI camp is saturated with a bunch of absolute fucking cultists.What makes them a "cult", or comparable to one, are things like>their utterly fanatical approach to the subject and their needlessly extreme opinions ("anyone with a different opinion is SUBHUMAN", "It has never and will never produce anything good", etc.)>their lack of logic-based arguments for their beliefs in place of emotion-based arguments and unquantifiable, nebulous concepts that they argue as if they were objective ("this art has """soul""", but this one doesn't, because I say so, and therefore the former is good and the latter is bad", their attempts at more "objective" arguments such as its supposed negative effect on the environment falling apart under even basic scrutiny, etc.)>their insistence that the issue is not merely a matter of opinion but is instead a dire moral dilemma, with a "good" side and an "evil" side>their reliance on alarmist tinfoil-hattery that they would scoff at coming from anyone else on any other topic ("AI is secretly a plot to enslave us all", "AI is literally the Anti-Christ", "AI is actually evil because it's powered by literal conjured demons being forced to do computations", etc.)>their reliance on illogical deflections rather than actual arguments ("If you have a different opinion you are 'a pajeet'" or other such shit used to shut-down discussion, etc.)>their propensity for "group-think" and bandwagoning (all of them will insist that "AI is bad", but very few can coherently explain anything approaching "why"; they just know that they're SUPPOSED to think "AI = Bad" and that they'll get shit-slapped by there comrades if they don't comply, etc.)
>>223958705rain makes me sad.
>>223958744then it is art
>>223958737Grok summarize this.
>>223958737i just wish there was no AI, it makes me upset for a lot of reasons. some of these reasons will lead to my downfall and death.
>>223957946watch this for some "technical improvements". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiULPvTJ-0Eyou can now do way more than just prompt and cross your fingers. i used that feature to get camera movements to use in blender and unreal engine but it didn't really help my process, it was easier to do it manually the way i wanted, but it is still a big development.
It's time to put up or shut up, AIfags. Either you have the AI-prompted movie by now or you don't.
>>223956694This is how subjective art can be. You get a queef obsessed with expensive movie cameras and being famous, you get Nolan types who make visually stunning (in the way that stuns them) cinema slop. Musk is obsessed with wealth through technology, he cares about art even less than Nolan, and that’s why he thought it was ok to post shit art, he’s not refined enough to know it sucks. He’s also autistic so human interactions are a challenge for him anyway.
>>223957869AI wont fuck you anon
>>223957854hope elon sees this bro
>>223958556>spends 50 mil on garbage movie>2 mil users from -istan countries think it's the coolest shit ever and buy grok subs for 15 dollar a month
>>223956694The right can't Art
>>223958556Its the AI bubble. Investors shower you with money if you say your turds are made with AI.
>>223958772>it didn't work for me at all>still a big developmentThe funny thing about AI's persistent failure in influencing artistic fields is how it's both touted as something that will herald a new golden age of moviemaking but also nothing really works but it has Potential™.
>>223958785>He’s also autisticwhy is he allowed to live? i thought disabled people are a liability in a meritocratic eugenics world
>>223958487>you can argue that you can do all that stuff with AI, like really put your heart into a creation and work super hard towards it, then i ask you, what was the point of using AI?Why use literally ANY medium?>the whole point of AI is that it makes things convenient and easy.Just like PhotoShop or other digital platforms vs. Traditional Painting?Just like Additive Sculpting (clay) vs. Subtractive Sculpting (marble)?Just like using Pro Tools or FL Studio to mix music instead of mixing everything using Analog Tech?I mean you CAN define "art" but how unnecessarily difficult the effort used to create it is, but that certainly not how most people are going to define "art".You can definitely argue that using the traditional, more difficult methods vs. the more "convenient" ones makes the end product "more impressive", at least, but ultimately, who cares? You're welcome to stick to those methods if you're so ardently dedicated to them to the exclusion of everything else. But most people are not going to do that, or even care that much. Neither artist NOR "consumer".
I did watch the whole episode, some shots are way better than nolans version, but it still feels extremely AI, the way i see it we're at minimum 2 years from getting good AI movies, the content generated can look pretty good, but it needs another step up and most importantly the tools generating AI movies are simply not here yet, it seems like locking down a specific aesthetic properly is still very hard to do.
Filming Odyssey, no matter how pretentious and shitty Nolan is, creates thousands of working positions and opportunities and develops economy and craft in a significant way. Creating AI-movie, even if it's good, benefits only the person who made it google/X who get ad money from it.What's better is obvious.
>>223958648>the thing specifically being argued was whether you could really create art with AII.e. something that is EXACTLY a topic fitting within "the philosophy of art", dingus?In fact "what is or isn't 'art'" is one of the central discussions within the philosophy of art, and even one of the most common within it.>not how it fits into societyWhether AI Art "is or is not 'art'" is absolutely a discussion about "how it fits into society", because society and it's various philosophies are what are going to answer that question.Are you seriously new to the concept of "the philosophy of art"? Is this a subject you are completely new to, and are those completely unequipped to discuss with people who actually know about it? Because that would explain a Hell of a lot.
>>223958292ayo can robo plastic lookin ahh metal nigga do a mothafuckin rap lil bro hows bout dickin down dem hwite girls bbc style nomsayin shieeet taste da watemlon or summin? mofucka ass clanker
>>223958772So the best way to use AI is to use everything else but AI to cover up its weaknesses.
I saw some 60 year old woman watch an AI genned soap opera in portrait mode and it looked laughably bad where some dude got slapped by a girl who had two different colored dresses in 7 seconds and he had a comically red slap mark on his face for the rest of the thing. But she was enraptured by it and blew through multiples of that shit.
>>223958785>Musk is obsessed with wealth through technology, he cares about art even less than Nolan, and that’s why he thought it was ok to post shit art, he’s not refined enough to know it sucksGod you people are such pseudointellectual arm-chair psychologists. You create narratives in your head about people you've never met (entirely based on what outrage-content you did or did not get fed by the algorithm on Twitter or BlueSky or some other platform of social-media) and then just sort of ASSUME this emotional fanfiction is real, and then dictate what people are "allowed" or "not allowed" to do accordingly.It's genuinely not only insipid and emotional rather than logical, but it has creepy levels of parasocialism to it as well
>>223958799A hilarious claim, considering that the only "creativity" leftcucks seem to be capable of for the past 20-fucking-years is>"What if [White Male character created by White men or maybe some jews 50 to 100 years ago], but he's black/gay/a woman now?!?!"
>>223958896>jews mentionedOpinion disregarded, try again
>>223957014nah, ai can be really fucking useful for some stuff but the visual side of things is utter shit
>>223958816>The funny thing about AI's persistent failure in influencing artistic fieldsWhat are you even talking about? The technology merely existing has got "artists" so pants-shittingly scared that many of them are outright demanding the technology be handicapped through nothing but legislation, if not outright banned. Like a bunch of backwards Luddites trying to ban the Spinning Jenny, or the moral busy-bodies of an isolated hyper-religious town trying to ban Radio or TV due to being "ungodly".I'd certainly call THAT "influence".
>>223958920Luddites were absolutely based because they actually cared about society and other people's jobs or stability instead of ephemeral "progress". Progress is for ultimate autistic cucks, real people just live and help each other.
>>223958856>basically it all boils down to feeding the economyLmao, amazing.>LINE MUST GO UP!!!Very """artistic""" point of view there, Rembrandt.
>>223956694>artisn't it in the eye of the beholder? Who even gets to decide what's art?
>>223958938I am right though, and you are wrong.
>>223958821>Why use literally ANY medium?did you mean tool? because AI is not a medium, it's a toolthis is all really subjective but i do think compromising on the end result and the emotions you want to convey by taking shortcuts undermines the point of artistic creation. like it's the difference between using the paint bucket tool and actually brushing in the lines yourself, even if it's digital. now instead of the paint bucket, you can have AI paint the brush lines. you can argue that it's the same brush lines from a practical standpoint, but they aren't the same from an artistic one, to me anyway.i do think i have a solid line of reasoning though. if you argue that AI art is equal to something hand painted by an expert over several months, then you may as well argue that a coloring book with color by numbers is the same as creating your own artwork. or better yet, import said coloring book to digital and have AI paint it for you. or just buy a pre-painted coloring book second hand. every time you take a shortcut and make it easier, you are diminishing your own role in its creation and making it more worthless from the standpoint of creating art. i feel like if you can't figure this out even as i spell it out to you with these simplified examples then you're just not going to get it.i guess one could argue that if you really suck at AI, then it can feel like hard work to proooompt something and fine tune the colors and inpaint and other crap like that. i've seen a few of these types on the internet, like "my art teacher told me i would never amount to anything but look at this slop i created" and it's a pile of dogshit even when AI genned. by my own admission that would qualify as art, but it's art in a very fucked up and sad way to me>at least, but ultimately, who caresme
>>223958906Oh, sorry, I forgot leftists like you switched three years ago from calling anyone criticizing a jew a "nazi" to hating them SO much that the mere mention of them "triggers" you.My bad.
>>223956694Did it need to be proven?
>>223958968>leftists mentionedopinion disregarded. can you post ANYTHING without a current buzzword?
>>223958933Ok, bro, but why are you utilizing a computer to express that idea instead of hiring a personal Page or Scriptorum Monk? Do you want Pages & Scriptorum Monks to be out of a job?Why are you using electricity? Do you want the people who work hard to harvest the whale oil we use to light our homes to be without a job?Why are you driving a car? Do you want countless people in the carriage-driving and horse-tending professions to be without a job?
>>223958972bro that guy's an oldfag, he's been here since /pol/. only a total NEWBIE doesn't go on 4chan.org and view every topic as part of the left-right politics wars!
>>223958920They bought into the hype about AI being the next Skynet and destroying the world, same as you AI pajeets did. Any artist who actually toyed with them back in DALL-E2 and Stable Diffusion days immediatly noticed the shortcomings of LLMs. And AI still gets fingers wrong in images to this day if you don't use any AI-exterior aid like direct references or 3D model plugins.And thats before US and German courts ruled that AI creations are all Public Domain by default, further cementing that there is not going to be an AI industry that takes over everything, because ironically studios need to hire real people to recreate AI generated stuff if they wish to own the IP of the AI prompt.
>>223958985I simply am not as based as luddites, I am also very poor and can't compromise on a lot of things.
>>223956694Lol
>elon does something once like a retard>"WELL I GUESS IT CAN NEVER BE DONE AGAIN"epic logic, simply epic
>>223958856>consumers should voluntarily pay for inferior & unappealing products solely out of guilt over the fact that otherwise the people who created the inferior & unappealing products might NOT be rewarded for it with money & job-stabilityHoly shit, never thought I'd see the day when somebody on /tv/ would unironically espouse this kind of insipid belief, but here we are.This shit's like something straight out of Brave New World. "The Morality and Responsibility of Consuming Mindlessly", kek.
Just saw the short and, AI quirks aside, it's simply boring. It's a rendition of the plow backstory where Odysseus was called to war. It was prompted look like it was shot by Zack Snyder. Every single scene has gravitas and weight to it as if everything happening is the most epic shit ever. Subtlety of a sledgehammer etc.
>>223959042Thats exactly what happened in China recently, see: >>223958025Chinks are pro-AI and yet they didn't bother watching a full AI film. Instead they paid money to see a shitty amateur 3D film made by a mother and son. Why would they pay a ticket price to see AI film? They have AI back home they can just watch AI for free.
>>223959042Yes, because free market is actually bad and kills people. If you enjoy killing people, that's on you.
>>223959045>Every single scene has gravitas and weight to it as if everything happening is the most epic shit ever. Subtlety of a sledgehammer etc.sounds exactly like snyder so the AI must have done a good job
>>223956694People keep trying to use the AI for the art part. The promise is to use AI for the parts that would normally require some big $$$ SFX (just short sequences right now for sure), and then use human performances for the parts that any short film could do right now. The 'Corridor Crew' just invented a new AI based tool that can cut anything out of green screen (or literally any background) and released it for free and open source. That's how AI needs to be done, take performances and plug in backgrounds and use AI to smooth out whatever jank still exists.
>>223958972"Leftism" isn't a "buzzword". It's a general school of political perspective & philosophy that has existed in pretty much the entire Western world for multiple centuries at this point.Do you genuinely not even know what a "buzzword" is? Because if you did, I don't know how you could possibly make such an insipid and factually incorrect argument.It sounds more like you just heard other people using the word "buzzword" and declaratively dismissing arguments based on the supposed inclusion of "buzzwords", so you just kind of parroted what you heard regardless of context. You just kind of know people use that word when arguing with each other and dismissing each other's arguments sometimes, and that was apparently good enough for you.
>>223959076didnt read you just wasted 5 minutes haha
>>223958890>leave the trillionaire alone
>>223957755How philosophical
>>223959008That image related is so fucked. What we should all want from AI (the LLM varietals) is that you can get them do tasks like that. If I want to make sure I never see another ad from Tesla (for example) then I should be able to ask my local AI agent to just filter all of them out, and to return telemetry that makes it look like I did watch it. That's the barest minimum requirement for you to know that the AI is actually working for you.
>>223959065Sounds like you don't belong in the West, and haven't, for the past 300 or so years.May I suggest moving to a Communist shithole somewhere instead? Yes, I know, but believe it or not they're actually ARE a few of them that haven't collapsed and abandoned the philosophy yet. I was shocked to find out too. You must be ecstatic to find out people with your beliefs still have a place to go even in 2026.
>>223958370>Digital Painting isn't art dudeit's may be art but it still looks like shit. Tumblr faggots turned this style into a caricature of what it was supposed to be.
>>223959086im gonna read his post 2x times to make up for that
>>223959100we should improve society somewhat.jpg
>>223959075>The 'Corridor Crew' just invented a new AI based tool that can cut anything out of green screen (or literally any background) and released it for free and open source. That's how AI needs to be done, take performances and plug in backgrounds and use AI to smooth out whatever jank still exists.The AI tool does the opposite, its more like Magic Wand in photoshop where it does 90% of the cropping work but then you have to manually zoom in and smooth it out yourself.
>>223959087>Why are you calling me out for being delusional enough to write literal fanfiction about rich people I have never met and then believe it as if it were fact?! Do you like rich people or something?!?!Lmao, no, I just like truth and dislike mental-illness.
>>223959112That's not what you suggested.You claimed "the free market is actually bad and kills people".
>>223959146You don't know the picture i'm referring to?
>>223959101The fact that Tumblr exists and is rife with low quality examples of any particular artform does not negate the "true" examples of that art form. They are irrelevant.
AI is just a new tool. If you make a movie with AI but with with a good story, people will go watch it. In the future the quality will be so good that it will look real. Movies like Avatar or similar will be made with AI in a few years. If the AI can make the 3D characters and surroundings better than humans then it will be made with AI.
>>223959118Corridorkey does like 99.9% of it though, it's a good tool and it does the shit work so you can do the art work.
>>223959169It will destroy billion lives in the process. Is it worth it?
>>223959173yea sure why not
>>223959169Half the people in this whole debate think that 'AI art' means simple prompt-wanking, half the people think that 'AI art' means using any tool that is trained up like an LLM or neural network to help with any part of the process.
>>223959173How do you stop it? Making it illegal for studios to use a software that it's available everywhere? I don't think it's possible.
>>223959181Do you seriously put slighly more faster made CGI in James Cameron movies above billion lives?
>>223959045It looks nothing like a Snyder movie.
>>223959171Thats fine, nobody minds Magic Wand tool that works better than before. Cropping by hand has always been annoying.
>>223959193try typing that again in english
>>223959156Oh no, I've of course seen it before. The problem is that the argument presented in that comic is retarded it is exclusively used by Redditor retards, just like it doesn't represent nor is relevant to the argument you and I are having right now.You didn't argue some Incredibly generic suggestion that we should "improve society", you claimed that basic economic freedom (i.e. one of the cornerstones of the West and the modern era in general) and lack of a planned, dictated economy was both "bad" and even "murderous". Your position is factually incorrect, but that's a moot point considering that if you genuinely believe that you literally DON'T have to live under the Free Market if you don't want to. Instead, you and I can BOTH be happy: me living under the "bad" and "deadly" Free Market, and you under an economy completely lacking in freedom. Literally all you have to do is go to any of the countries where perrsonal belief is the dictated law. Why wouldn't you want to such a place?
>>223959218Name 2 grammar mistakes in my sentence, which was perfect English by the way.
>>223959240>put slightly more faster made>above billion lives
>>223959200And just in case anon is worried it was 'stealing from real artists' they trained the tool by asking the fans to send in as many weird green-screen shots as they could, and if they included their own cropping and transparency that was even better. And Corridor Crew used their own previous work to train it up as well. So they didn't just scour the internet for some non-consenting artists to ransack. To me, this was always the real promise for AI in art. Training data being submitted by volunteers, and the tool itself being used to cut out the shit work.
>>223959225I have no money to move. You see, unlike you, a normie with 5/2 job and higher education, you poser, I have nothing and will forever have nothing. So I cling on to little what I have, which is computer and remains of my dying family. You will never understand me because you instantly proceeded to retarded "why don't you just move to Cuba" argument.
>>223959240and "slighly" isn't a word
>>223959246What is wrong with "put above billion lives"? It's gramatically correct.
>>223959261i can't help you if you're going to have an ESL tantrum over a glaringly obvious grammar mistake.
>>223959272Am I the only having tantrum? You refused to read a post you understood perfectly instead of replying and now you're drilling me on something. What does it have to do with television and film?
>>223957459I can't wait until every artist is unemployed and screaming >Dey took out jerbs You niggas love importing foreign labor but you hate much more morally sound computer labor. Curious. Quite curious. *Posted using incredible service Starlink from my rural home
>>223957459It has a niche already. 'Gods Don't Give Gifts' is fine as weird, esoteric sci-fi slop. Or this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjM72JPrmrE
>>223956727Lol no, modern AI is already much more creative and SOVL than any modern "creators," "directors" etc. I'd rather enjoy AI movies than anything by Nolan or Villeneuve or Scorsese or any other hack.
>>223959249Yeah but thats not really the improvement on the actual "AI" part aka the LLM part. Rather the image recognition has gotten better than before, the system can better detect the mixed color pixels and separate the green screen from the edges slightly more accurately. You still have to go and check and fix things manually.And thats not just the Collider or movie editing. Image OCRs have gotten better recognizing letters so doing rough translations of japanese porn from messy screenshots and pictures has gotten much easier. The actual translations are still inaccurate as fuck and suffer from hallucinations but its better than nothing.
>>223959286>Am I the only having tantrumlol, have a good day buddy.
>>223959344You understood what I was saying but you keep addressing grammar out of avoidance.
>>223959338>I'd rather enjoy AI moviesSo why didn't you buy a ticket and support your favorite AI chinese film-makers?
>>223959362do you realize that you're typing like an ESL or do you just not care? am i being trolled?
>>223959340It uses the same basic technology as the LLM. It's not just detecting color pixels, it uses the frames before and after each frame to determine when colors are blending together or to smooth out transparencies. It's just not AI art in the sense of typing 'make art' into the prompt and getting back something sensible. The art part still has to be a human.
>>223957083AI really shines with weird, surrealistic shit like this.
>>223959373Do you think you're being trolled?
>>223959386yes
>>223959240you can argue that 'slightly more faster made CGI' is a noun phrase, but IMO you should have formatted that as>slightly-more-faster-made CGIand regardless, 'more faster'? you're bananas, anon-kun!
>>223959389Answer me about billion lives being worth less than faster made CGI in Avatar 5.
>>223959398lol, you're too funny, man. do they not have a version of 4chan in india? you'd probably have a better time there.
>>223956727>AI slop is devoid of any effort.Tautological statement.Not all AI-assisted art is slop.>>223957822Right, frankly the tougher question comes down to copyright infringement.
>>223959403You'd do anything to avoid that topic. Why?
>>223959398Name 10 million of them?
>>223959377>it uses the frames before and after each frame to determine when colors are blending together or to smooth out transparencies.Toon Boom has had a feature like that for years, granted Toon Boom operates with vectors which are easier for computer to recognize than pixels or rasters. You can barely call it AI, the fact image recognition has gotten better is more of a useful by-product of AI than AI itself.
>>223959418because we aren't going to have a meaningful conversation if you can't communicate in the language that this website was designed for
>>223959417>Right, frankly the tougher question comes down to copyright infringement.We won't solve that until we get serious about cutting out the middlemen. The hazard of AI art right now is that it could mean that 100% of the money goes to the middlemen, and 0% goes to any real artists. I don't know if any oldfags are here, but there was a time when the promise of the internet was that middlemen would be made completely irrelevant, so 100% of the money spent on art went to the artists.
>>223959431Without sliding into bad faith, was there ANYTHING that you didn't understand in my replies? Not that it was wrong, but something you didn't understand?
>>223959398Are those billion people more like me, or more like you? This is important
>>223959424I think most people will not ultimately call these kind of tools 'AI' only because they think that it's only real AI if it's replacing some of the artistic input rather than replacing the shit work. In any case the ideal is that the tools to do these things becomes more widely available and much cheaper and simpler to use, and then people who have some artistic spark will find it much easier to get their work out there.
>>223956694>even Elonare you really this retarded?
>>223959449i just don't have the time to deal with your awful prose and grammar errors. this website isn't designed to give you english lessons, go somewhere else for that, please.
>>223959502I'm not asking for english lessons and you refuse to admit you understood everything perfectly, which you did. You just want billions of people to die because you'd rather have a faster made CGI in Avatar 5. Now kill yourself.
>>223959523>I'm not asking for english lessons>name 2 grammar mistakes in my sentencehaha
>>223956694>AI can't make artFunny, because neither can Nolan and yet people pretend his movie was ok.
>>223959496Sure. LLM is an overhyped search engine. But search engines are still useful, anyone who has ever spammed ctrl+F to look for (You)s here is aware of that. So once the AI bubble bursts LLM is guaranteed to find some niche of its own in the world of tech.Just like what happened with VR. No it didn't take over all video games and the entire Internet and virtual reality real estate is worthless no matter how much Zuckerberg tried to say otherwise. But VR has become a mainstay toy with simulator games. "AI" or LLM is going to share the same fate.
>>223959540This was a misdirection to prove you'd do anything other than engage with the topic, you slimy piece of shit. ANYTHING not to discuss people's lives being at stake. I wish you died a horrible death.
>>223959574yeah, i'm sure that's true. i'm trying to help you out here, dude. if you keep typing like this on this site, you are just going to be relentlessly bullied. go somewhere else, this is not a place to practice your english.
>>223959583I hope you're trolling because at least it'd make this conversation trivial. If you genuinely are like this in real life, your life should end.
>>223957091Of what? It's shit.
>>223959598should end what?
>>223959567>overhyped search engineThis is what I thought when the LLM's started to really take off, that they could be the remedy to the search engine enshittification we've seen. That we could actually use it to actually get around the search engine optimization and oppositional algorithms that put paid results higher and good results lower. Or even that it could be good to help users jam up all the big data and algorithmic bubbling that's been fucking us for over a decade. It hasn't quite panned out that way yet, but it could still work out.
Post some webms bros. Let’s laugh together at this slop.
>>223959611Itself.
>>223959622you should try reddit, it's more your speed.
>>223959627I'm waiting for your response on billions of lives.
>>223959638what about billions of lives?
>>223958048Debunked luddite nonsense
>>223959649Would you sacrifice billions of lives in favor of cheaper and faster CGI in Avatar 5?
>>223959660yea sure why not
>>223959670couldn't you just start with saying this half an hour ago?
>>223959675yeah you've gotta be trolling. i'm out.
>>223956727I can agree with this take as long as "slop" also describes 99% of the absolute shit media that people insist has "soul."
>>223959700You'd rather destroy lives of billions of people so that Avatar 5 could have cheaper CGI and i'm the one who is trolling?
>>223959064People will always pay for a good story, even if that story might only be the making of the movie. In this case, the actual story is son and mom making an animation.If that same movie had been produced by an AI company, then everyone would have skipped it, as it isn't particularly interesting as a story. An AI company made an animation, please watch, VS wholesome mom and son duo make an animated movie, please watch.
>>223959710AI will save our lives by destroying billions. Unless you're in those billions, why care? If you are, eww.>>223959747I already saw that, it was excellent.
>>223959759>why care?Are you asking why we should care about people?
>>223956694K-lon is a bullshit artist propped up by DoD contracts. He isn't smart, insightful, or innovative.
>>223959774No, you are. You should ask Grok to explain it to your dim-witted slope-fronted brain. "Useless eaters" is a good place to start.
>>223959798So you're just a fascist who wants to kill everyone who isn't "contributing", gotcha.
>>223959806Who said kill? Them starving due to not buying GPUs 5 years ago isn't me killing them, it's them failing to plan for obvious changes in market forces.
>>223959814Would you be happy if they were dead?
>>223959823I'm good for life, what happens to the others is of little consequence to me, although I predict those who deserve to live will do so.
>>223959846So "they" who you are referring to and willing to throw under the bus just to make Avatar 5 have cheaper CGI, do they deserve to live? And you really didn't reply to whether or not you'd be happy.
>>223959303Are you seeing artists crying about their jobs in the same way programmers and software engineers have been? You live in a deluded world of brainrot. Artists aren't fucking scared of AI, nigger. We're all fucking sick of you stupid morons waving around the latest sack of AI slop shit that you of course think is fucking great. We're tired of you shitting on the table. You're an annoying retard. Kill yourself.>>223959328And Bollywood serves millions of Indians. And Spiderman and Elsa raked in millions of views. And abuelas all over the world keep the lights on for some telenovela that's on its 100th season. What's your point? If you're happy to "make" shit and shovel it into the mouths of barely sentient people and viewbots, you do that. Your shit will still never be recognized as artistically legitimate, in the same way scat porn isn't art.
If any of you went to modern art museums in the past years you would know they have had many exhibitions of artists who use AI in their work. Anyone saying AI cant be art is just wrong because artists are using it. The important part is they are using it as part of their work, not just printing out what their prompts spit out and calling that a whole work.
i just saw the report of MAGA eventthis people are retarded as fuck, no wonder USA is turning into 3rd world shithole
>>223960031define third world
>>223960062run by rich old folkscoruption at topbeing slaves to corporationsretards falling the most basic lies and loving those lies
>>223957740Lol, maybe if you were a literal Trump supporting boomer dullard.
>>223960102oh shit you don't understand history, my bad
>>223956905at this point Musk could say he used AI to find the cure for cancer and the press would write>Elon Musk has found the cure for cancer, but did we really need one?
>>223956694>it's not art because it doesn't grossly re-interpret someone else's history and culture for a moern audience while stylizing it beyond realismOK whatever you say, Rabbi Goldshekel
>>223956905yeah, get an actual script and hire someone who is good at directing to guide the movie and they could have something
>>223960131stupid bootlicker
>>223960158have sex
>>223957765MalFOID is a astroturfed meme though.
>>223960183Is it astroturfed or forced?There is a distinction. Seems gay fwiw
>>223960198With the new HBO show coming around, I would lean more towards the former. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a gender swap episode of some kind or a new actress reveal for Malfroy.
>>223960139It does exactly that doe.
>>223957816i'm not threatened by it, i'm just disgusted at the jerky, uncanny quality of it and the brain dead coomers who insist on spamming it all over the boards
>>223960134>le cancer AI memeyou forgot your slop comic, Sanjeep
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I TOLD YOU AI IS FUCKING ART YOU DISRESPECT ALL THE TOKENS I WASTED JUST TEN MORE BILLION DOLLARS
>>223956694Edgar Allen Poe just proved to the world that automatons can't play chess.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maelzel's_Chess_PlayerEssay by Poe where he asserts that a machine can never be made to play chess.
>>223957816Why would people who only stand to lose financially and status-wise stop complaining about something that is replacing them? I think it's annoying too but it makes sense. There will always be Luddites or variants thereof. It's human nature to feel that way. However they should be focusing on something else now instead of just kvetching because you're not going to stop the tide; once the genie is out, you can't put him back in.
>>223956905>>223957014>>223957056>>223957083>>223957091>>223957723>>223957740>>223957755>>223957764>>223957782
>>223958647it can save twitter though
>>223960825computer chess is just copying HUMAN chess moves, man.and even if it's not, WE put those logic gates there, that allow it to 'make decisions'.so, a computer cannot play chess.
>>223957872>”AI will never be able to…”I’ve seen this statement so many times over the past 15 years, and the goal posts keep moving right along every time. Luddites BTFO.
>>223958787will humanslop give you a tugjob
>>223958856Thousands of opportunities were created building and maintaining computer data centers. AI is building the economy.
>>223958056>Generate AI sloppa book>Signed Laquisha Treespirit and Edited by xir loving polycule member #5>Win awards.
>>223956727You beleive “effort” matters because you grew up with participation awards :)
>>223960990These are permanent new jobs that bring generational wealth into the communities where the data centres are being built?
>>223960913I love how when you retarded faggots don't have an actual argument, you resort to calling people, pajeets, troons, or redditors.It means, you don't actually have an argument and are just parroting buzzwords.>It also means, you're fucking retarded and are unable to think for yourself
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>>223960990The 14 permanent jobs created by data centers does not offset the countless people losing their jobs to AI. Also the handful of data center jobs go to H1Bjeets, not anyone from the communities where these shit heaps are built.
>>223959806Why are anti-fascists so violent? Say bad things to justify doing bad things. sad.
>>223960031>foreign anti-American slop commentnice try 4cucker
>>223956694Yet.AI can't make art YET. Remember it was just a few years ago when you had that Will Smith eating spaghetti horror show, AI has come far since then and it will continue to improve. It will only be a matter of time before you get CB Demille scale epics entirely made by AI.
>>223956694>"chatbbc, make art that will make trannies burn themselves. ready, go!">1000 dollars have been removed from your account
>>223961070Data Centers will require technical maintenance in perpetuity, providing interconnected jobs with other industries. The economy does what it does.
>>223961159So make hiring HIBjeets illegal. Make hardcore race laws. Until then it's just shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.
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>>223961227>1 IT contractor coming around every couple weeks offsets the 10,000 people who lost their jobs because of this data center
>>223956727>Ai bad!The cope that never ends
