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If I pull that trigger, will you die?


https://www.tmz.com/2026/11/01/michael-mann-accidentally-shoots-himself-in-leg
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Lol, what an idiot.
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>>224057359
Would be a good Michael Mann movie
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>>224057359
Condition zero status?
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>>224057359
He had to get it on
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>>224057359
KWABOTY
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Collateral damage.
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Michael Maimed
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He'll be fine
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>>224057359
If he had had a gun he could have protected himself
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better in a gun range than in a movie set
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>>224057359
Was it a sig?
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RIP Stellan Skarsgård
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How fucked is Heat 2?
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>>224057359
Sig status?
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He’s 83, isn’t there an age limit at these places? I wouldn’t want some doddery old fuck handling firearms.
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>>224057711
headline says that michael mann is shooting it now
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> Mann is scheduled to direct Heat 2 in January. Deadline spoke exclusively to a source close to the filmmaker, and this will not impact start of production on that sequel to the classic crime thriller, Deadline understands. More to come…

https://deadline.com/2026/11/michael-mann-injured-weapon-discharges-filmmaker-ok-1237210846/
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>>224057731
Old Americans will own firearms either way. I'd rather they get trained to use them safely than not
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Dick status?
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he's too old, there's no way Heat 2 can be good
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>>224057424
CARLOS
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>>224057993
People said same thing about nolan and odyssey
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>>224057737
The only thing he's shooting is his leg
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>>224058165
were they right? it looks like absolute dogshit
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>>224057359
poetic
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>>224058275
It was literally the cinematic event of week 2 of July 2026. Literally.
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>>224057729
sour
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>>224058348
made me lol
P6-7
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>>224057359
Why would someone shoot a Mann before throwing him out of a plane?
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>>224058339
literally?
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Michael Mann, for some reason
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>>224058405
Nice.
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>>224058256
>esl repeats the joke
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>>224057418
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>>224057359
What gun was it?
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I don't understand how you can accidentally shoot yourself. Why is the gun ever pointed at you in the first place? Especially at a range. Fucking retarded.
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>>224057359
Did he shoot it at 24fps or 48fps?
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>>224057359
At least he wasnt appendix-carrying.
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>>224058728
Firearm safety is not his fucking job idiot
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>>224058780
>shoots himself accidentally in the face
>"my own protection is not my fucking job!"
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>>224058728
The most common reason is when holstering the firearm and a piece of clothing/gear gets caught in the trigger guard causing the weapon to go off. Its extremely common to use holsters at a range.

Which is why you look at what you're doing while holstering your fucking gun, its a training thing.
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>>224058780
Firearm safety is the shooters job, retard.
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>>224058780
Road safety isn't my job but I'm not retarded enough to walk into oncoming traffic
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>>224058707
Sig P320
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If you're accidentally discharging while you holster, you should not own a firearm.
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>>224058728
For a leg wound specifically, it's likely a holstering mistake as the other anon said. Pretty much every instance of a person being shot at a range is a result of negligence and not following basic firearm safety rules. Some people just feel like they're too cool to be safe. And this is inevitably what happens. He's at least lucky he didn't kill himself with his stupidity.
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>>224058728
>Why is the gun ever pointed at you in the first place?
You kind of have to have the gun pointed at some part of your body to holster it, which is probably how this happened. But if the trigger is getting pulled when you holster, you're doing it wrong, and shouldn't be holstering a loaded weapon until you know how to handle a gun safely.
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>>224058759
Then we'd have another round of dick status threads.
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>>224058917
>You kind of have to have the gun pointed at some part of your body to holster it,

?!??
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>>224058897
>Some people just feel like they're too cool to be safe
It happens when people are unintelligent.
They become comfortable with a pattern of safety and think that means danger has ceased to exist, or they genuinely just can't keep track of what safety requires.
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>>224057359
Shoot yourself in the leg when you feel the heat around the corner.
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>>224057359
He's clearly just method directing for Heat 2. You have to admire his passion
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the situations where someone would have to quickly draw a weapon from a holster are infinitesimal, only ameritards are obsessed with spaghetti western optics and quick draw routines
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>>224057711
Too much money/talent involved.
If the film starts testing shit, they'll fire Mann and have someone else ghost-direct reshoots to fix it.
It couldn't have gotten this far without a half-decent script so this wouldn't be a case of trying to salvage something watchable from a shitshow, it'd be the case of fixing otherwise-good scenes where Mann chose to do something retarded for no reason.
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He was probably trying to do the Robocop gun go spinny holster trick.
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>>224058989
That is how holsters are designed, anon. The barrel is probably going to point at some part of you while holstering or carrying, if only for a second or two sometimes. OWB carries are the least likely to hit you in an unintentional discharge, and if they do hit you, it's pretty much always in the foot or lower leg, because of the way the gun is oriented. But if you're conceal carrying IWB then the gun is pretty much pointed at you all the time, and not just at your lower extremities, but meatier parts of your upper leg where some very important blood vessels are located. To say nothing of appendix carry and where that's pointed.
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>>224059071
>the situations where someone would have to quickly draw a weapon from a holster are infinitesimal
And yet, if you are conceal carrying, that's a scenario you have to consider. What's the point of carrying a weapon if you are not practiced with it to actually use it when it matters?
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Apparently he shot himself in a way that was so realistic they're actually showing the footage at police training classes
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>>224059000
I see it as people learning safety as a series of routines without understanding why the rules exist or what they are trying to prevent. The danger isn't real, in other words, and the safety rules feel arbitrary. I'm guessing such people simply never received any instruction, cause I'm fairly sure any qualified instructor these days will show you several videos of what happens when you don't follow safety rules. Some of those videos stick in my mind.
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>>224059250
maybe if you're fat
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>>224059360
Tell me where the barrel is pointing anon! Bonus points: think about where the barrel might point if he bent over, sat down, or did anything other than stand at ease.
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>>224059305
you are never gonna have a dirty dozen fistfull of dollars standoff or duel you can pull it out slowly since this was in a shooting range its obvious it was on of those quick draw timed things
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He's a big guy
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Common gunnut L
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>>224058405
Kek
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>>224057424
kek
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>>224059461
>you are never gonna have a dirty dozen fistfull of dollars standoff or duel
Those are not the situations people practice quickdraw for. Literally, the scenarios they have you practice in, those are not even listed options. You don't know anything about self defense training.
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>>224057359
So method. That's my director.
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>>224059400
Maybe stick it in your ass for an even better point.
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>>224058165
Odyssey is fucking terrible
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>>224057359
I guess he couldn't take the HEAT
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>>224059603
They have spy guns you can put in your ass.
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any updates?
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>>224059579
those self defence scenarios you speak of only exist in the brains of gun obsessed ameritards who watched to many movies and think they are john wick keep shooting your feet and brains off, noone cares
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>>224057359
bet he didnt have trigger discipline
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>>224058780
at a shooting range firearm safety is everyones job
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>>224059680
They say he lost his foot
right when he got it in the door
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>>224057711
Lmfao the movie was going to be over budget anyways, it'd be hilarious if it goes past $300 millies.
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How does this affect Heat 2?
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YO HOMIE, THAT MY BRIEFCASE?
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Mannhunter.
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Michael Mann has been metaphorically shooting himself in the leg for years now
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Shooting yourself on accident should make it so you cannot own your own gun. Cause of the implications that youre a klutz and you can accidentally kill anyone
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>>224059784
It'll be 2 hot for tv
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>>224057359
Hasn't made a good flick in 20 years
The Keep and Man Hunter are kino however so he's still cool in my book
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>>224057424
A Jew shot himself and you’re laughing
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He's a shopping cart from here on out
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>>224060083
A more fair punishment would be requiring him to take a series of firearm safety classes and pass a 1 on 1 practical exam with an NRA certified instructor. And then if he fucks up again after that, you can ban him from owning fire arms, because he's proved he can't be taught to be safe.
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>>224059681
>nobody gets robbed by somebody with a weapon
>that never happens
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>>224059603
It's okay to admit you were wrong, anon.
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>>224060104
>Public Enemies
>Blackhat
>not kino
fucking pleb
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>>224057424
it's his last resort to get that Tom Cruise cake
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>>224057359
why did he do that
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>>224057359
>>224057457
>>224057560
>>224057755
>>224058276
fatal gun accidents are pretty rare. there are fewer than 10 fatal gun accidents per state per year
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KWAB
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>>224060338
>time for a LA Takedown
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>>224060397
Take out the obvious suicides that they declared accidental to make the family feel better and its even less.
Pro tip, not one human being on the planet has been accidentally killed "cleaning their gun"
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>>224058728
>>224058780
he was drawing a gun out of a holster and either shot himself pulling the gun out of the holder or something got caught in the trigger and he shot himself reholstering the gun
a lot of gun ranges won't let you do shit with holsters for that reason
pretty much every gun accident at the range is either a gun exploding (rare) or related to holsters
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>>224060587
>I just FUCKING shot myself
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did he died
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>>224059071
yurotroons can't own guns because the second amendment only applies to humans
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100% of gun deaths are suicide or non-white gang violence
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>>224057731
I wouldn't hand 99.999% of people a gun. I would keep them locked up and only distribute them in a military emergency like the British did at sea. This is what happens: civilians who think they are gun experts end up shooting themselves or other people because of their dumb hobby.
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>>224060676
Don't do it little girl! Don't teacup the ooozi!
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>>224059071
>>224059305
>>224059461
>>224059579
he was probably practicing for a movie role. that said, if you CCW you should practice being able to draw your gun so you don't accidently shoot yourself
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>>224059512
there are fewer than 10 fatal gun accidents per state per year you dickless troon
>>224059673
pretty sure the butt gun was literally a shitpost >>224059681
you are a third worlder and you have no dick. if you are carrying a gun you would need to draw it at some point to use it in self defense, thirdie
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He lost his legs, now he's only half the Mann
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>>224060801
>500 people accidentally kill themselves handling guns every year

That's a lot dumbass.
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>>224060083
>>224060205
>>224060676
owning a gun is a basic human right, fatso
>>224060661
pretty much, yeah. and domestic violence
>>224060827
not really fatso. there are like 15,000 aids deaths in the US per year. why don't we ban sodomy?
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>>224057359
What a waste
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>>224058728
Since it was his leg, he was obviously practicing drawing from a holster. The danger with holster drawing is reflexively pulling the trigger while you are drawing, which is a fundamental safety violation. You do not put your finger in the trigger well before you are sighted in on your target. However, getting your body trained and conditioned to the muscle-memory of a quick-draw action takes lots of practice. And your brain can sometimes just plain short-circuit the process when you are performing a series of rapid action at once where the "pull trigger" step gets accidentally injected out of order. Even if it wasn't just wilful negligence or stupidity. This is why ranges rarely let you practice this. Also there are some OWB SERPA holsters that are poorly designed to lead your finger reflexively into the trigger well from the holster release button.
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>>224057359
Dick status?
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its been 22 years since Mann last made a good film...
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>>224061451
Ferrari was kino, you just have to appreciate the history of brand and enjoy classic car racing
they drove a lot of genuine classic cars for the film, and even got the Stig to play Stirling Moss
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>>224057865
utterly shattered and scattered to the four winds...
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>>224057737
kek
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>>224060884
>there are like 15,000 aids deaths in the US per year. why don't we ban sodomy?
This is a pretty good argument. Nobody will listen though. If we banned stuff based on the negative impact it has instead of just for political agendas then we wouldn't have black people anymore.
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>>224059720
Classic line
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>>224061451
Ferrari is fine. Blackhat is great.
You=faggot who loves dicks
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>>224057424
literally laughed out loud
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>>224061228
>>224057424
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>>224061451
Suck a dick.
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PROTIP: if you own a gun over a year without negligent discharging at least once, you aren’t handling it enough. NDs are a natural part of handling weapons, just like tweaking your back is part of weightlifting and car accidents are part of driving. I ND several times a year because I actually HANDLE and know how to USE my weapons. It makes me a better firearms handler and marksman, and it’s a small part of the price you pay in the sheepdog lifestyle Simple fact is, the “safety mentality” will build mental blocks in your head that will get you killed. You need to be comfortable putting your finger on the trigger and pointing the gun wherever you want no matter the time, place, or status of the weapon. Taking time to check whether the gun is loaded whenever you pick one up will serve to make you hesitate in a personal defense scenario. You fucking safety idiots are going to get people killed all because of this fucking “ND” shaming. Guns are inherently dangerous, you need to accept it.
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his leg was making a move
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>>224057359
fucking blue filter retard
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>>224062270
Criterion went to hell after they included sloppa. How many juice or DEI were involved?
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>>224059100
80-something shoots himself in the leg + the production 2 months away still goes on? Setting up a narrative here. TMZ + Polymarket (both juice controlled) are just "opinion leaders".
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>>224057729
MOVE ZIG
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If he dies how would (You) react?
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>>224062572
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>>224062572
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>>224062572
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they still have gun ranges in LA?
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>>224062738
Yeah they're called 7-Elevens
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>Hey Michael, how's going Heat 2?
>Let me show you a visual representation of it: -ACK!
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>>224062835
>>224062716
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>>224062396
the studio unions force them to hire someone to do the lighting, probably someone "diverse", but it is mostly general corruption
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>>224060063
this scene would actually be decent if you simply remove the shot with the telephone pole. that singular shot ruins the whole thing.
>car flies WAY too high, hitting the top of the pole
>pole barely moves when its TOP is hit by a fucking car going fast
>instead car gets deflected back the other way like this pole is made of steel and buried 10 feet in the ground

a lesser nitpick is the guy being flung out of the car. thankfully we are likely looking at the people on the ground so we don't notice him on first viewing. but his trajectory completely cheats gravity, he just hovers over the crowd in almost a straight line.
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>>224064094
The telephone pole happened in the real crash. It's a heavily documented event, so they reconstructed it. The issue is not the car hitting the telephone pole, the issue is that there is heavy and obvious CGI which gives it an uncanny valley effect, detatching the viewer from what is meant to be a visceral, shocking, and disturbing moment. The whole visual style of the scene is wrong, every shot, every angle.
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>>224064202
>>224064094
They shot it like a video game kill cam replay where you see a series of different angles and the exact point in the road that sets it off. Terrible decision. They should have filmed it from the perspective of the driver/passenger, maybe not literally a POV, but there is no reason to give the audience a god's eye play by play perspective on what should just be a shock that gives you whiplash. We should not see ther car hit the crowd either, stay with the person getting thrown out of the car, only when they are awoken and perhaps carried away do we see the aftermath of the crushed crowd.
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>>224062572
I'd come to /tv/ to read some yucks like I did today when I read the dipshit shot himself in the leg.
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>>224060223
in his defense, he said the probabilities are relative low.i used to live in the ghetto and it was infested with gangbangers and i never felt the need to ccw let alone practice mexican stand offs. now would your retarded brainrot miga brain might have felt differently? sure
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>>224058780
washing my dick is not my job, but i still do it.
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>>224060801
literally every trans person ive met is pro-gun, again, retard chud blames trannies for what some obese terf thinks.
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>>224057418
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>>224057359
His leg was making a move
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>>224065054
why do you know so many trannies, troon?
troons are anti gun. they vote for the open borders, gun control and trannies party, you troon
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I voted for this btw
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>>224064202
>The telephone pole happened in the real crash.
I'm sure the car hit the pole irl, but it didn't fly all the way to the top of the pole, then have its own trajectory changed by that much while the pole barely moved. it's a WOODEN fucking pole. think about this for a second.

>the issue is that there is heavy and obvious CGI which gives it an uncanny valley effect
sure, that is also a problem. but the CGI wouldn't be so obvious if the physics displayed made any sense. my point is that it's about the MOTION that pulls me out of it rather than, for example, the lighting. it's not a visual problem so much as a physical or kinetic one. like a doll that looks real in a photo but then uncanny when it speaks.

>>224064345
that's a more traditional way of shooting it but I think there are many ways they could have shot it that all could have worked. it doesn't have to be the classic "omit anything complex and just let the viewer fill in the blanks". it's a classic for a reason, but it's not the only way that works.
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>>224060603
who was that guy again? Texas-something?
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>>224057359
why are hollywood types so bad at handling guns? they always keep accidentally shooting themselves or someone else with them
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>>224065845
>https://youtu.be/zYvAxLX6OzE?is=yW_loZKTfGuPYYf7
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>>224062738
Waffle House, Popeye's, etc. the usual.
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>thief has an unsafe presscheck
>heat has an unsafe presscheck
did mann unsafe presscheck and shooted hisself?
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the irony is plapable
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>>224057424
>Yo homie, is that my leg?
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>>224060397
Hi muttschizo
Still off your meds?
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>>224066604

The gun was holstered when it went off. I'd guess he holstered the gun with his finger on the trigger.
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>>224066734
damn you are one angry third world troon
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>>224058780
hi Alec
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>>224060063
Kekeroo this looks like something from Tropic Thunder or something
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>>224057359
NDs happen, I've had a few.
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>>224057731
Is there an age limit for driving?
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>>224061652
>>224060884
>not really fatso. there are like 15,000 aids deaths in the US per year. why don't we ban sodomy?
>consenting adults not using protection is the same thing as your children being murdered at school
lol
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>>224067696
95% of fags are child molesters
fewer than 100 Americans die of mass shooting every year
you are fat
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>>224057424
Carlos, you son of a bitch!
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>>224066129
I’ve heard of two separate cases in my town of 80,000 where people had negligent discharges in the past year. One shot himself while “moving the gun from one room to another” per the local news station website, and the other where a guy supposedly thought it would be a good idea to point his ar at his girlfriend and pull the trigger as some type of joke. I guess she lived long enough to confirm his story.

Many regular citizens have no business having guns, nor access to vehicles, or probably even raising crotch critters.
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>>224067752
>95% of fags are child molesters
Has zero to do with you argument
>fewer than 100 Americans die of mass shooting every year
I’m well aware of this when you scrub the fudged numbers like the of counting gang shootings at 3 am on the sidewalk outside the school.

How many kids should be killed at school? I guess your point about gays being child molesters means theyre not worth anything which only bolsters my argument that your argument is a laughable false analogy.
>you are fat
You’d like that wouldn’t you?
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>>224067873
>Has zero to do with you argument
they aren't consenting adults, retardo
>How many kids should be killed at school?
denying people their basic human rights won't stop people from killing kids you gay retard
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This is the fate of all Americans.
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>>224068587
must suck not to have basic human rights like we do, thirdoid
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>>224066383
They don't have Waffle Houses in California
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>>224068745
You’re right. We don’t have the right to have all our education defunded and no healthcare so we go bankrupt if we shoot ourselves. We sure are missing out.
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>>224068804
you don't have any rights, or a dick. you aren't even a person
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>>224059071
>>224059681
>>224059461
>america is a dangerous violent place because of the guns and the niggers
>y-y-you shouldn't be armed and prepared to defend yourself from niggers because statistically it's rare
Why should anyone listen to you in regards to anything?
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>>224069109
None of the three posts you replied to said anything about how dangerous America is. Braindead americunt.
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>>224069192
NTA, you third worlders are retarded and dickless
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>>224057729
Heil'd
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that's fucked up mann
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>>224066604
>>224066636
It's a perfectly safe press check, unless you're a pussy, or a twitchy zoomer who just can't keep your booger hook off the trigger
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>>224069703
yurop literally invented trannies. it's the land of the troons
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>>224069858
Understandable since Europe invented everything.
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>>224069879
nope, yurop only invented trannies, blacked and not having indoor toilets. America invented going to the moon, the atom bomb, nuclear reactors, heterosexual sex, winning world wars
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>>224059071
>smoke detectors are great for detecting smoke and alerting you to a possible fire threat
>carbon monoxide detectors are great for alerting to a possible carbon monoxide threats
>tornado sirens are great for alerting to a tornado thread
>x detector is great for detecting and alerting to a possible x threat
>y detector is great for detecting and alerting to a possible y threat
What about a human threat? Here in the USA alone, the numerical statistics of actual law abiding individuals using their lawfully acquired arms to defend themselves, their families and their property completely and utterly dwarfs any and all "gun grabber" arguments. Don't believe me? Look into the gun violence study the Obama Administration commissioned. It involved all major branches of the government and private sector.
The TL;DR is
>criminals are cowards; won't mess with anyone they even suspect of being armed
FBI interviews. >9 out of 10 convicted violent criminals admitted so
>homes with a dedicated defensive armament are multitudes less likely to encounter burglary, robbery or any other sort of violent intrusion, exploitation
Fact of the matter is
>criminals don't care about the law, otherwise they wouldn't be criminals
>police responses take, global average in Western Civ, at least 10 minutes or more
>can you hide for 10mins? in your tiny 1-2 bedroom apartment?
>can you sit idly by while some poor girl is getting raped? Your daughter or wife?
Our statistics prove the old adage, An Armed Society is a Polite Society. Yet we live in a time of conflicting ideologies. Ideologies that seem to have more sympathy for the raping, burgling, murderer than the victims they create.
Fuck that nonsense. If someone is putting you, your loved ones or your property at lethal risk. Kill them.
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
>they're not from here they don't understand the rules :_:
excuse is and has always been bullshit. If they come to our lands they must abide by our rules
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>>224059071
Going further. I am so fucking sick and tired of hearing this roll over and die sentiment from Europeans. You guys deserve your fate. You deserve to get rolled over and dominated by muslims for this defeatist attitude. Where is your honor? Where is your pride? Do you not care about your children? Your children's future? The future of your childrens' children? You assholes make me sick. You're worse than American boomers. You'll sell your entire continent into sex slavery to foreign invaders so long as you don't suffer the spurious label of "racist" or "intolerant". You disgust me.
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Until Yuropoors start using air conditioners during the heat waves that kill more of them than guns kill Americans they can shut the fuck up about it
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>>224057590
Please be a sig. god that would be so fucking funny.
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>>224058780
Seriously he should sue his armorer even though she wasn’t even there that day.
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>>224059071
You really don’t wish you had a gun sometimes?
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>>224060569
This. All you really need to do is dig into that "gun violence" study the Obama admin commissioned. And quickly swept under the rug when the results didn't yield the outcome they wanted. You'll quickly learn that
>criminals gonna be criminal
>laws do nothing but hamper the lawful but do everything to embolden the lawless
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>Felix Rojas is arraigned in Manhattan Supreme Court after he was arrested and charged with oral and anal rape of a dead body on the R train.
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>>224057359
Siggers on suicide watch yet again
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>>224057865
I doubt he appendix carries
he's more like to be the type to have an outside the waistband strong side leather holster
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He heard that VS are releasing the thetrical cut of Manhunter.
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The Keep is kino
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>>224070480
Someone else is rolling over on the ground and dying and thats Michael mann not Europe after literally instead of metaphorically shooting at his own foot
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>>224057359
You have to respect him, no other director is doing this.
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>>224058728
>don't understand how you can accidentally shoot yourself
NEVER underestimate the stupidity of your fellow man, anon.
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>>224059681
>browns burning down France
>browns trying to burn down Italy
>browns stabbing the shit out of and raping bongs
I'll take my "obsessed ameritard" approach over your Euro "beta cuck getting murdered" approach, thanks.



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