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If you relate to him, you're an LVM (low value male)
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>>224139030
I don't relate to anyone.
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>>224139030
I don't relate to him, because I would never simp for a female. Especially not one with brown eyes.
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Having oneitis isn't the way.
He needed to approach way more women.

Do the Volume
Do the Reps
Do the Work
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>>224139030
4 people friend group 2 girls 2 dudes
obviously friendzoned by girl A
girl B obviously likes him (she's cuter too)
simps for girl A even though she fucks the other dude behind his back
monkey paws her to love him
finds out the truth about girl B
girl B dies, everyone but Nikke dies.
What a cuck
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>>224139030
Women judge your "value" by your attractivness lol.

At the same time. Even if you're attractive and she doesn't like you anymore, because something switched off in her lizard brain or she found the new target. You will become low value instantly.

They're deranged cunts and shouldn't be treated in any way other than the holes.
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if you're posting here you're a low value male
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Good. An Obsession thread. I just watched it for the first time this night and I found myself disturbingly similar to Bear in the first half of the movie. I'm also cowardly, awkward, timid, and I easily get attached to woman who show attention or affection. Obviously, I'm not demented like him, so I wouldn't have been okay with sleeping with and dating a woman that's either having a mental breakdown or demonically obsessed, but even so, I could've seen myself making that wish when I was younger...

I laid awake all in my bed all night, thinking that I need to do better.

I fully recognize that the events of the movie played out the way it did because Bear was such a coward. It's even implied that he could've gotten with Nikki in an organic matter if he'd just convinced. Nikki before being possessed even says things like she never lets somebody know when she likes them.

But Bear never tried because he was a coward. And when he ruined her life, he was too cowardly to try and fix it until it personally harmed him. Utterly despicable.

But also human. And a cautionary tale of what happens when a man is too afraid to take charge of his life and take chances. A cautionary tale about a man dipping himself so far into escapism that he destroys the lives of everyone around him.

Going forward, I'm going to start actually trying in life. I'm going to stop indulging in so much escapism and start working on improving myself and getting past my own anxiety so I can be a man that I'm proud of.

I know this sounds corny, but this movie really had a profound effect on me.
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>>224139030
True, since he was such a retard he didn't realise Nikki was actually into him. He was a closet rapist deluding himself that he was a nice guy. Ie. the average anon. With the exception that if he had the capaclty for self-reflection, he would've actually gotten the girl of his dreams. That's why this is a piece of fiction, since in the real world women sus out your creepyness even through a veneer of normalcy. No woman in the real world would ever hang out alone with a guy like him.
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I prefer to consider myself a NVM (No Value Male). I want to be a net negative to anyone who interacts with me, I want to make your day worse, I want to be a hindrance.
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>>224139965
Yet no one ever even thinks about you. Interesting.
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>>224139030
>Large Vagina Model
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>>224140122
You're thinking about me right now anon
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>>224139030
He's cute and owns a house with no mortgage in 2026. Women would realistically be all over him.
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>>224139030
If he was low value, his friend wouldn't have tried to make him cheat with her. The jig's up, bitch.
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>>224139030
>if you relate to a beta male then you are one
Thanks once again, Captain Obvious!
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>>224140149
Bodied that clown.
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>>224139030
Just because you relate to him doesn't mean you think what he did was right or good
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My mom says I’m precious tho
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>>224140691
And the point of a narrative is to relate to the characters along the established lines of their role in a story. Bear's the protagonist. If a woman said this in my presence I would excoriate her for being a philistine and emotionally retarded.
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>>224140764
Your other mommy says you're previous thoughever
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>>224139030
if you've watched this show or movie, you're a faggot
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>>224139030
>jokingly wish for something knowing it won't become true anyway
>typical monkeys paw story because we need a reason for a woman to act psycho with no consequences
These kinds of stories bore me
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>>224141089
I read a review that said it would have been a better movie if he consciously enslaved her and I have to agree.
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>>224139084
We know youre afraid to talk to woman
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>>224141089
>Muh monkey paw
Idiots repeat the same talking points. Not a monkey paw it’s a love potion/spell horror story which NEVER end well.
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>>224141089
It's funny that people are acting like this is a groundbreaking feminist work when the movie really lets Bear off the hook in a lot of ways while indulging in misogynist "psycho girlfriend" cliches.
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>>224139030
Bear is definitely meant to be relatable.
>has feelings for a girl, but fears blowing up his friend group if his feelings aren’t reciprocated
Pretty goddamn normal.
>doesn’t spring into action like Superman when bizarre and frightening things start happening
Again, normal.
He’s a bit too passive, a bit too scared, and a bit too selfish. Most of us are.
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>>224141129
>if he consciously enslaved her and I have to agree.
He basically was after the dinner scene. He notices her psychotic breakdown, he hears her regurgitate his wish almost verbatim, and then she asks him does it even matter? He says not really, then it cuts to him fucking her, while Nikki looks to the side with a blank expression and tears in her eyes, which implies that the original Nikki is basically being raped by him since she has no autonomy here. Bear may not KNOW she's being possessed here, but he knows that she's been mentally fucked by the wish beyond repair and he doesn't care because he can fuck her.

And later when Bear hears her scream on the phone, he 100% knows that she's suffering and a hostile entity is taking over her body. And yet he still doesn't care. Infact his first instinct is to just change the wish so she's still enslaved and possessed, but just less clingy.

Then in the final scenes, he yells at the entity possessing Nikki to just be like Nikki. Which once again implies that he would've been fine raping Nikki's body for the rest of his life if she was "normal". Nikki would've been suffering for all of eternity and he wouldn't have cared.. that's basically captivity + torture from a guy who claims to "love" her
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>>224139623
>(she's cuter too)
Homosexual opinions don't matter
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>>224139792
The way you treat women is disgusting. Be better.
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>>224141288
>And later when Bear hears her scream on the phone, he 100% knows that she's suffering and a hostile entity is taking over her body. And yet he still doesn't care. Infact his first instinct is to just change the wish so she's still enslaved and possessed, but just less clingy.
You have this backwards, he tried to change his wish and then he heard the real Nikki over the phone. I do think making it so he would have to kill himself to end the wish is a cop out, it would be better if he could easily end it but chooses not to.
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>>224141340
He still tries to go out the most cowardly way possible (pills & booze) and lacks the character to even do that. I doubt the payoff would've been as you describe it.
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>>224139030
I wouldnt have bitched out like him, I made the wish, it came true. Despite everything I have to deal and live with it. I got what I wanted. Even though id feel like a dumbass for not just wishing for money.
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I don't need some zoomer slop movie to tell me that
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>>224139030
>If you relate to him
I was like that when I was younger
>you're an LVM (low value male)
lol I knew that since middle school (almost 40 now)
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>>224139030
>this guy is more attractive than me
>he is considered a chud by women
>realize i have no chance
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>>224142438
Hes not a real person, hes an actor. People wont hold a fictional character up to you in comparison like that
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>>224142173
> I got what I wanted
And Nikki is in a living hell that never ends where she's forced to watch helplessly as a her "friend" rapes her everyday and a demonic entity forces her to shit and piss herself and physically abuse and even murder her own friends. FUCK what you want. It's what NIKKI wants. Which is freedom or death.
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>>224139030
Only stupid idots are simps and only stupid idiots get oneitis

No woman in this world is special. There are no tits or ass or face that can't be reproduced and found elsewhere. Only a fucking idiot would believe a face, a pair of tits, or some ass are special.

Also only the most pathetic lowlifes in the world are afraid of rejection. If you are getting the icks because you don't want a woman to say no to you, I'm afraid you're beyond salvation and should just neck yourself. Please do a favor to humanity.
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Yes I'm a low value male and all users on this forum also are, so?
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>>224142572
people like you always act tough until some broad throws rape accusations at them
tick tock
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ive never been in love in my life, 25 years old. never been in love, never dated or fucked but never felt the need either
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>>224139030
Why do women murder their kids so much?
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>>224142599
>le rape accusations
that's why you're so afraid of women? because you're a little child who doesn't know how to take care of himself in the adult world?
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>>224142742
share us your pro tips to avoid being accused of rape by some random foid who holds a grudge against you for a random petty reason o wise one
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>>224139191
God,they look like fuckin clones of each other. And not even pretty clones.
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>>224142742
Well if you're gonna get accused of rape, might aswell rape.
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>>224142770
Maybe don't give them a reason to hold a grudge against you by calling them foids
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>>224139030
So what if I am.
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>Men valuing me
You wanna fuck me, m8?
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>>224139030
Incel effigy
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>>224143850
I fuck men
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>>224139191
This!
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>>224142572
If you haven't even slept with the girl yet, it's retarded yes. But one girl can't really be traded for another even if the second is a lot more attractive objectively. The mid girl can make you diamonds from just her scent if you're compatible vs the hot girl that you might get bored from because she's retarded and never made you feel any sort of way to begin with.
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>>224139030
Why didn't Real Nikki try to encourage him to go out with Sarah? It sounded like she was sabotaging him with that in the car convo. "Lol it's so obvious she likes you. You don't actually like her, do you?"
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You can only be judged by those you respect. Everything else is an accusation and who gives a shit.
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>>224144796
Real Nikki had feelings for Bear. The actress who played Nikki and the director both confirmed this. Bear just fucked it up because he's socially retarded and awkward as shit.

Her relationship with Ian was physical only. And they'd recently stopped fucking and hanging out, which is why Ian mentions at the beginning of the movie that Nikki was crying in the store. It's probably also why she wants to leave the store and work elsewhere. And why she rides with Bear instead of Ian on trivia night. It's too awkward.

When she's with Bear she gives him this speech about romance (fantasy, the idealized relationship) vs love (the fleeting, flawed, and painful feeling that can fade with time). She states she wants to feel ROMANCE not love. Then right before that, she tells Bear that she's always felt close to him and that she can talk about things with him that she can't with others. Ergo, she would've been willing to give him a chance. This was literally his chance to ask her out or confess his feelings.

But Bear is too timid. And as she leaves the car, he stupidly uses Ian's pickup lines. Which shocks her because she thought she had a close relationship with Bear than that. She could expect a sleezebag like Ian to call her Freaky Nikki, but she never expected that from Bear. She confronts him about it and asks him point blank if has likes her. She wants to confirm if he's just being an edgy prick or just a social retard trying to flirt.

Bear again acts timid and denies that he likes her. Nikki is frustrated at this point. Because it's clear he's a indecisive coward. She's also hurt because she was secretly hoping that he would've stated his feelings plainly. That's why she's so curt and cold to him after he denies it.
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>>224145030
That's what makes the rest of the movie tragic. Bear didn't NEED to warp reality and strip her of her autonomy to get a chance at dating her. She ALREADY liked him. Which makes his betrayal of her hit much harder when he starts raping her and knowingly letting a demonic entity possess her body. She's FORCED to watch someone she believed she could trust betray her over and over again for weeks.
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>>224139030
WTF?!
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>>224141338
100% gets cheated on
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>>224139030
I have no idea who he is so that makes me a HVM
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>>224143834
so nothing?
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>>224145030
>Her relationship with Ian was physical only. And they'd recently stopped fucking and hanging out, which is why Ian mentions at the beginning of the movie that Nikki was crying in the store.
So she was crying at breaking things off with Ian, but she was already ready to hop onto Bear? Are women really like this?



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