So how did you guys like the film?
I think I liked minus one a little bit more but overall it was a very entertaining film though it could have used maybe one or two more scenes with Godzilla himself
>>224172744Godzilla was the MacGuffin of his own movie.....
>>224172744I was expecting a whole hour of Japanese post-war drama, like the first one, but somehow this time it was worse. Probably too many children. King Ghidorah was pretty good but the fight was all over the place with the human parts being really bad.
>>224172888are they still butthurt about the nukes
Yeah I liked it but enjoyed -1 more though. First movie had Takao, Yukikaze, and Hibiki, while the second one has a G5N Shinzan, A-1 Skyraiders, a jet powered J7W Shinden in the background of one scene, and an upgraded H8K Flying boat so I guess the first movie was the bote otaku movie while the second one gets to be Takashi's plane otaku movie.
>>224172901Godzilla nuking NY was awesome, I even stand up and cried KINO! in the middle of the IMAX-place.
>>224172744I liked it, but it was too melodramatic and goofy. Ending was terrible.Minus one is the superior film, a complete film
>Ameritards turning this into a MV vs Toho pissing contest all across social mediaThis is why we can't have nice things. You fat retards are so insecure you have to spam your Monster Verse slop all across the web to prove how much "better" you did it. Fucking fags.
intense action scene > 1h of talking > intense action scene > 1h of talking > intense action scenepacing wasnt great, and main dude kept overactingIt was alright
>>224172991Things that didn't happen. Only complaints are from indians shitting up reviews over their own cgi slop. You're brown.
Why didn't the guy's machine also attract humans when hooked up to Noriko?
>>224173049because humans are naturally attracted to noriko and had to develop an immunity to it
>>224172959>>224172810>Minus one was betterThis is the general consensus I've heard everywhere and also an opinion I hold.Some of the drama was so forced and felt like they were just baiting the viewer, the ending in particular.SPOILERS AHEAD FOR RETARDS THAT ARE HANGING OUT IN A DISCUSSION FULL OF SPOILERSThere were too many plot hooks that didn't get fleshed out like the revenge plot or the American scheming.Also, I am still baffled they tried making the characters feel guilty for trying to kill the surviving monster like the Kaiju weren't pure, spiteful, evil monsters.I also didn't like how bad Godzillas entrance was, or how abrupt and unceremonious his revival was.He was stiff even by suit era standards.He literally fires a shot and tips over like a cardboard cutout.Also, him staying down that long is baffling considering he didn't even sink in the water when having his head blown off by explosives in the first movie.Ghidorah shooting straight up for no reason is also lame.I still liked it overall.Ghidorah immediately trying to eat Goji, with all the gore was awesome.
>>224173049All the cells in her body have been replaced with radioactive Godzilla cells, try watching the movie next time, you fucking idiot.
I wish the final act had more monster fight actions. What we got was great but it wasn't enough. 2 more minutes would have been perfect. Also I don't like that Godzilla both started and ended the fight with his beam. Wanted to see him literally rip Ghidorah apart in gory ways before blasting the bits that are still alive and struggling.
>>224172744it was fine i guessfelt rushed and kinda unnecessary
>>224173116>dude, plot holesIt's setup for the third movie. This is the middle part of a trilogy. American marketing that said, "There ont be another" is genuinely baffling because in Japanese language interviews the director said this movie is meant to be like the Empire Strikes Back. Would be a weird fucking comparison if it's meant to not setup a third movie.
>>224173119She is still human you retard.
>>224173174She's as much human as Godzilla is a T-Rex. Use your fucking head next time, scrub.
>>224173014Yeah he's kind of a one trick pony with no range.His female co-star hard carried their shared scenes.Along with the doc and many other better actors.His rigid acting worked fine in the first film because he was literally overcoming PTSD.
>>224172744Im watching it right now. Wild
The best King Ghidorah representation. If only he had more screentime in terms of combat against legitimate human threats like a small army force.Or dunking on Godzilla a minute longer.
>>224172838I like this usage of him, it goes with the message of the movie about not using lives as weapons. An additional scene after him waking up would've been nice though, any excuse to hear that roar in theatres.
>>224173150Not so much plot holes, which I never claimed in my post anywhere.We just don't get enough detail or payoff for how much time we spend on things.The revenge plot being solved off screen and the American scheming getting explicit screentime only to be left pretty vague was awkward and clumsy feeling imo
The professor who wanted revenge carried the movie for me
>This theme is used in the first film during the moment when everyone is desperately thinking "come on Godzilla, die already!">Re-used in the second film during the moment when everyone is thinking "come on Godzilla, don't die!"Minus Zero may not have been as good but both films together work so well. Great sequelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YDBCZbmdLA
>>224173241him leveling all of Osaka off camera was really frustrating, would've loved to see him use his physgun on a bunch of tanks or pull battleships from the shore. the detail about him being a lightning junkie was funny, makes him looking like a meth head monsterverse ghidorah fitting
Ghidorah mutating into Godzilla and being able to shoot his beam which is a result of Godzilla's radioactive nature that Ghidorah doesn't have bothered me.
This is kinda minor but I feel like there should have been a quick shot of the Iowa-class BB firing before Godzilla was hit by the 16 inch shells, so it doesn't read like 'zilla just randomly getting hit by random artillery shells.
>>224173365There were several editing decisions made on this film I don't like.
>>224173311100% agree on the Osaka detail. Would have been kino to see tanks fruitlessly firing at King Ghidorah while suspended in his electromagnetic field before being slammed down to the ground and blown up by debris.King Ghidorah was addicted to, to quote Monster Hunter; "BIOENERGY"
I'm curious about ameribros reaction to Godzilla atomic breathing NY
>>224173385>first movie 10 million dollar budget>second movie 13~ million dollar budget They honestly might have just run out of money for VFX heavy scenes like that. Too bad I guess.
Why does she look hotter with the Godzilla eye
>>224173432>They honestly might have just run out of money for VFX heavy scenes like thatMy thoughts exactly.Imagine if this movie had the budget of the american films...
>>224173432Shorten the film by 20 minutes by shortening some of the human stuff and entirely get rid of the professor revenge plot. Have him just be a professor that does research. His revenge story felt incredibly tacked on without any significant payoff.
>>224173488>the exterior shot of the crows That felt like a scene where they scourging for coins in the couch to pay for it the crows just looked so bad
>>224173579>just cut out the entire thematic core of the movieYou're genuinely cattle.
>>224173488>>224173596Most of the mad doc lab scenes look straight from Godzilla 54 but colorized.
Something about the plot of this film felt more like vignettes of a potential story more than an actual story >Noriko wants to help Murakami so families will stop being harmed >Murakami is vengeful and wants to turn Godzilla against the US but Noda pulls him out of it >Noda feels guilt over making weapons and absolves himself through sacrifice >Koichi wants to protect his family so he runs from the US government >They decide to stop shelling godzilla because it defeated ghidorah These are all well and good but they feel disconnected from each other and the general plot. Noda monologues at the end about stopping the cycle of violence which I suppose could wrap up all of these character threads but it feels underwhelming if so.
>>224173833>>They decide to stop shelling godzilla because it defeated ghidorahThey decide to stop shelling Godzilla because they believe they can control it.
>>224173579What exactly do you think the movie was about? You cut out the old man's motivation and desire for revenge and you cut out the heart of the film, both Godzilla Minus One and Zero are about how violence begets more violence. The very first scene in Minus One shows that because they shot at Godzilla, they all died, when they could have just done nothing and Godzilla would have wandered back into the ocean, as the island locals had been living in peace with Godzilla for generations. Every time they try to solve a problem with violence, they make the problem worse. Ghidorah literally becoming whatever it absorbs is a direct representation of, "Be careful not to stare into the abyss, because it will stare back" or whatever the fuck that quote is, the world becomes what we do to it, we shape the world, if we are violent, the world becomes violent, if we choose peace, to build and create and to love and to live, we can create a better world, we can heal the world. We now have two movies spelling these themes out, and likely a third one on the way, and yet you retarded goyim will never get it. You just want to set the world on fire and eat your own shit like the animals you are.
>>224173432Well the good news is that Minus Zero looks like it's going to make bank, so they could easily quintuple the budget for the next one any still have it be highly profitable.
>>224173863There's a reason why capeshit is so popular. You just beat the bad guys.
>>224173725It was terrible. The resolution to it was "I changed my mind off-screen". Wow truly brilliant!>>224173863The old man was not the heart of the film lmao. The family from Minus One was the heart. The old man served to include a revenge aspect. They just did a shit job of it.
>>224173864Godzilla Plus One? Where they don't allow Godzilla to go to his kinoplex alone so he tries to wake up Mothra to come with him?
>>224173922>Godzilla Plus OneIt would actually be Godzilla Minus -1
I almost started screaming when they were going to leave the kid at the orphanage. That's a pretty good range of emotion to get out of me.
>>224173897Then these movies aren't for you because the whole point is you can't beat Godzilla like you can't beat a nuclear bomb. He doesn't go away forever, he exists, he's part of the world, you don't get to punch out death and despair and natural disasters. Spider-Man can't stop 9/11 or Hurricane Katrina, Godzilla can't be stopped by even blowing him up like they did at the end of the first movie, he is a cosmic force beyond humanity that represents the things beyond our control. Minus Zero is the most explicit Godzilla movie in attempting to spell out these themes and have a serious conversation about them and yet every retard I see discussing the movie is talking about how the fight scenes were too short and they should have cut out the old man plot and that they prefer Shin Godzilla because they liked the office politics which are relatable to their faggot ass meaningless cubicle cattle lives. I despise the masses, you deserve to be stomped by Godzilla.
>girlfriend tried to get me into Godzilla>she literally couldn't be quiet for more than 5 minutes during movies/shows>tell her I wasn't interested and put on Ancient Aliens until she got bored and fucked offI dumped her years ago but have been wanting to get into Godzilla. Should I just watch them in chronological order? Is the 1998 movie really that bad or is it normalfags just complaining?
>>224173241Nope. Monsterverse Ghidorah mogs and kills it you faggot
>>224173918He didn't change his mind, you fucking idiot. What do you think the third one is going to be about now that he is in American custody?
>>224173975>these movies aren't for you because the whole point is you can't beat Godzilla like you can't beat a nuclear bombBut they do beat Godzilla using a terrible, nuclear-bomb-like, device in the first movie?
>>224173922>Godzilla -1... SQUARED
>>224173982Gayest fucking post I have ever read on this website.
>>224174000>godzilla square root -1
>>224173986You might genuinely be mentally deficient.
>>224174016so should I start from the first movie?
>>224173986>What do you think the third one is going to be about now that he is in American custody?About the Americans wanting to use his research to control Godzilla? How does that play into the old guy's desire for revenge against America?
>>224173996Retard. In the first Godzilla movie they literally alude to the fact that he won't be the only monster like that out there. They say that in dialogue, they beat him in the movie because that's what audiences need to see happen to walk out of the theater happy but every fucking movie alludes to the fact that this is now a reality that the world and humanity must contend with and that it's never going away. Any momentary triumph over Godzilla is but a disaster managed, there will be more disasters and humanity ought not to think they can avoid them. Humanity must humble itself and learn to coexist with Godzilla. Have fun seething at the third movie when all of this is made even more obvious for stupid cows like you.
>>224174075Fuck off, incel. Stop replying to me.
>>224172744Good, but a vast downgrade compared to Minus One.
>>224174075>yada yada I'm a pseudYeah I know. Sadly mankind had to suffer the likes of (you).
>>224174107she's right, though
>>224174064He can now trick the Americans into drawing Godzilla or another giant monster to America and actually have it wreck havok. Before he had no way of actually getting Godzilla to America, you think his dream of flying that one plane all the way from Japan to New York city with no way of refueling it along the way was his actual plan? He is playing both sides so he can finally get his revenge. In all likelihood the story about having his mind changed was totally fabricated and no one can call him out on it because the other guy is dead.
>>224174124Is she? I've read only the first sentence of each post. Guess ever a broken cuck is right twice a day.
>>224174145>Is she?I don't know, I didn't read her post.
>>224174145>I totally didn't read itThis is easily the weakest cope that niggers on the internet ever use. You are seething.
>>224172810my thoughts exactly. needed more of my boy but overall great film.
>>224174176she may be seething but so are you, God damn
>>224174131Sounds like a script written by a teenager or a dilettante.
>>224174195>dilettanteInsane that you would type this after projecting and calling someone else a pseud. Kill yourself.
>>224173471I am so glad I was not the only one getting horny every time she showed it.
It was cool, especially the parts with planes. I wish the people were white and spoke English too.
>>224174131>you think his dream of flying that one plane all the way from Japan to New York city with no way of refueling it along the way was his actual plan?You fool! Underestimating Taitei-chan, one of the classic blunders.
>>224174229>being that intimidated by a pretty ordinary wordYou are never gonna make it I'm afraid.
>>224174229I'm Indian and I know what that word means.
>>224172744They should rename the movie to Godzilla: Akiko Always Wins
>Minus OneMasterpiece>Minus ZeroSemi-competent slop
>>224174277You'd have to be Indian to use it in a conversation as an insult after previously having called others pseuds. I get that ESLs lack context and nuance in conversation, but the words you use always say more about you than they do about the people you're throwing them at.
>>224174306You don't understand the movie you just watched at all.
>>224174313I didn't use it in a conversation as an insult, I'm just telling you that I know what the word means.
>>224173986>>224174064>>224174131>>224174195>>224174229>>224174262>>224174277>>224174313>>224174349Holy samefag
>>224172935does godzilla really nuke NYC? i wasnt going to bother because i heard gman isnt in it very much but that might be all i need.
>>224173982>gf actually likes godzilla>ancient aliens, the show where they talk about random historial ruins or artifacts and then tag on 'it was so remarkable that it makes one think : was it aliums?'>dump herooof huge blunder on your partyou might be homosexual
>>224174363Nah that was just some old guy's revenge fantasy.
>>224174363Actual spoilers: No, it's just the revenge dream of a madman.
>>224174369Yeah, Ancient Aliens is retarded and that's the whole reason I would use it when she tried to watch stuff with me. After I kicked her out she cheated on her new boyfriend with me so I think I made the right choice in dumping her.
>>224173982you dumped a godzilla gf?
>that ridiculously overweight US soldierkek I love the latent hatred the japs have for the yanks.
>>224174369>mightIt's heavily implied he left the girl for a man.
>>224174406He was an MP. You're projecting. They literally looked like that.
>>224174406>kek I love the latent hatred the japs have for the yanks.>start war with a superior nation despite being a nation of manlets>get utterly BTFO>get occupied for like half a centuryI'd be mad too but it's completely their fault.
>>224174386you're even more retarded now. she cheated on him with YOU, not a random guy
>>224173864im sure -1 did well too and they still had a tiny budget for the sequel. I understand having like 15 mins of actual monsters isnt new but its less frustrating when the movie is a tight 90
>>224174426if she's willing to cheat on him she's willing to cheat on anyone, Virgin-kun
>>224173982i hate youwe all hate you.
>>224174423Their whole plan was retarded.>yeah, we'll hit them once or twice and the howaito piggu will cry and surrenderI mean, they were going to war against the US sooner than later, so better hit first but then you need a real strategy.
>>224172744I kept falling asleep, but what I saw seemed OK.>>224172901Yep. That's why they had Gojira melt the faces of New Yorkers.
>show up>shoot beam>miss>get fucked up beyond reason in a quick skirmish>get buried under rubble>get back up>shoot beam>hitFINWow. What a terrible fucking fight.
>>224174517>Jew Yorkers getting a taste of their own medicineIf that scene didn't make you smile you're soulless. Also love how Jewish the solder at the front of the group going into the old man's lab was at the end of the movie.
>>224174543You missed the point.
>>224174543i heard that they dont show ghidorah dying, is this true?
>>224174579Yup. They just show a big explosion but not Ghidorah disintegrating or something. Totally ambiguous.
>>224174579Not really, and considering he can regenerate and absorb biomass like a madman that's bad news. The whole plot once the fight starts goes retarded.
>>224174579No, it's not true. You see Godzilla hit him with the beam and he explodes, but it is in a wide shot of the city with Godzilla on the left side of the screen and Ghidorah on the right side of the screen and we are dealing with fucking goyim who can't pay attention to the screen at all and keep looking at their phones so they missed it because they're retarded.
>>224174543>>get fucked up beyond reason in a quick skirmishOverall true but this part was kino.
>>224174448My current girlfriend doesn't share any of my interests and I like it that way.
>>224174624>and he explodesWe see an explosion, we don't see Ghidorah explode.
>>224174624Ah yes, no corpse and evil guys always die in explosions. Retard.>>224174628I was impressed with the gore, pretty metal for a Godzilla movie.
>>224172744>japanese acting >girl crying like 4 5 timesI slept, literally
>>224174628It was anticlimatic and a let down, IMO they could have solved it with one simple change, when the tell the main character to wake up Godzilla, before he can do anything you should hear Godzilla roar and then everyone is like, "He's already awake" and you see Godzilla standing up out of the rubble and his theme plays and you get maybe 30 more seconds of Godzilla. Just that would have made people happy, instead it feels too short and poorly edited.
cons>too much fucking drama and crying>too little godzilla, it's 90% dragon>too much annoying kid actors>only thing godzilla did was spam his super move>why did they suddenly decide to let the monster go at the end?pros>grampa's crazy godzilla weapon dream>the anti kaiju plans were cool6/10 the previous movie was better
>>224174624Just like how we saw Godzilla dying in the first movie.
>>224174647>>224174681We see Ghidorah explode, you guys are retarded. >it's just an explosionOne that hits the center of ghidorah's body and then explodes outward ripping him to shreds and you can see the three heads get incinerated in the blast. Try watching the movie next time instead of texting your boyfriend during the movie, you sissy faggots.
The Legendary movies are trash for MCU slop slurpers and miss the entire point of Godzilla
First King of the Monsters, now this. I gotta say I like how they made electricity Ghidorah's thing.
>>224174708Not at all, the final shot of Minus One is Godzilla regenerating underneath the water. There is no scene of Ghidorah regenerating and there would be no reason even if they wanted to use him again as he came from a meteorite and a future movie cpuld just have another meteroite land or a straight up alien invasion. You're a bunch of clowns.
>>224174721>ripping him to shredsCould you humor me and remind me how Ghodora came to Earth? Or you missed that and the part about texting your boyfriend was pure projection?
so what's the best way to get into this series? Chronological order?
>>224174745Not showing the villain's death is always just a trick to keep the door open for a future return. That's been a basic industry trope for like a hundred years.
>>224174767Watch Godzilla 54 and then be yourself. Half of the movies are childrenslop.
Minus One was better in literally every regard. Godzilla was barely in this and as a result it ends up being even more boring.
Damn it was so fucking kino, Goji bros we just can’t stop winning
>>224174767The original. A few from the showa era. All of heisei. A few from the millennium era. Shin. Minus One. Minus Zero.
>>224174767watch godzilla 2000, in english dub, as it best represents the series as a whole. if you start with shin or '54, you're gonna view the others as bad or inferior to a big degree and drop the series.
>>224174785>Godzilla was barely in thisProbably their biggest sin. I also hate how Godzilla just come back.
>>224174696>PicI know Kojimbo didn't invent them but the few shakycam shots in the movie reminded me of MGSV's cutscenes.
>>224174773Ghidorah in this movie is basically The Thing, he's a shapeshifting alien blob that steals DNA from animals he eats, at the end of the movie he is turning into a Godzilla like creature after eating Godzillas arm, he then tries to shoot the atomic beam back at Godzilla, but gets his ass incinerated first. He's dead. If they want to do another Ghidorah it will be because they want to do an alien invasion movie and they will have more meteorites landing. As it stands, there is nothing in the movie that suggests Ghidorah will be in the third one. Everything points to the third one having an original monster in America, as the director has said multiple times that if he gets to make a third movie he will be creating a new monster and he will be setting large portions of the movie in America. It blows my mind that people can watch a movie like this, which has loads of setup for the third movie, very clearly and very directly with the Major Gilbert character, the entire dream sequence about New York. And yet people still can't figure out where this story is heading.
>>224174730this was basically KotM but good
>>224174767don't listen to those faggots, watch all of them in chrono order.
>>224174785Every single godzilla movie that introduces a new monster has less godzilla in it. it's just the way it is.
>>224173982>>224174386>>224174438you made the right choice, lad
>>224174937>Ghidorah in this movie is basically The Thing, easily killed by an explosionDo you even think when you're writing your own post?
>>224174937>New monsterDios mio... el kaiju de las americas
>>224175059I don't think you understand what I'm saying. It's not that they couldn't write that Ghidorah survived, it's that they didn't and there's nothing in the movie that implies that or suggests it. Not a single detail, musical key, etc. Ghidorah is dead, he surved his function in the story, the next movie will be about the Americans trying to use Godzilla and getting humbled, "So many more eyes to open." Ghidorah does not actually matter, he was just a plot device to bring Godzilla back and set the ball rolling with the nuclear proliferation cold war metaphor.
>>224175140>Ghidorah [...] was just a plot device to bring Godzilla backBut Godzilla just comes back in a completely unrelated way to Ghidorah?
>>224173772They can get away with it by saying it's an artistic choice kek
yfw 3rd movie has the americans build a mechagodzilla
>>224175366Director already said it will be a brand new monster.
>>224175390>mecha [spoiler[ anguirus [/spoiler]
>>224175390>>224175366The original Godzilla movies went Godzilla, Raids Again, and then King Kong vs Godzilla. What if the original monster in America is a type of Big Foot creature to take the place of Kong?
>>224175390fuck ocs. just give us biollante you nip hack
I'm thankful for all the solo Ghidorah, but the movie was WAY too long, and the end fight was WAY too short and fucking SUCKEDand Ghidorah was just blasted away to land off-screen and we have no idea what happened to him? wtf? Seriously wtf was that? Left the theater fucking annoyed...
>>224175454Why does every nigger want Biolante? Literally a giant plant with the soul of some dead Japanese girl. Hedorah mogs her.
>>224172744So they went right back to the "human parts are over dramatized and dull can we just get to the monster fights" Literal daytime soap opera tier acting, how the fuck is it the same director as the first
>>224175474He's dead, retard.
>>224175445It is going to be Gamera because nobody remembers Gamera so they can pass him off as a new monster.
>>224175479they never really confirm the scientists daughter's soul inhabited biollante. he was just crazy and thought she did
>>224175481Shit taste. The orhpanage scenes were great.
>>224175495He's literally alien goop, so we don't know because we didn't see what happened, retard
>>224175500That would actually be in line with King Kong vs Godzilla, this time it's Gamera instead of Kong. I wonder how people would react to that, though.
>>224175454if it was monsterverse I'd agree but we haven't seen a new monster in a Japanese Godzilla movie in a long time
>>224175514He infected himself with Godzilla cells and was dying before the beam even nuked him across the entire screen
>>224175508>I am an easily emotionally manipulated rube
>>224175506Dude, her face shows up in the sky after Biolante dies.
>>224175532He's going to re-gen back into a Godzilla with 3 Ghidoara heads
>>224175539Future SH MonsterArts figure
>>224172744Mediocre, and the ending was absolutely atrocious.
>>224172744It was needlessly long and the final fight was rushed
>>224175582It was way too short.
>>224175569It was kind of funny how many false endings there were in like a ten minute span. >Couple lands on beach with friends from previous movie>explain they are now on the run and Aiko will understand>suddenly just show up at the orphange>we are saying goodbye tiny girl>everyone cries while saying goodbye>cut to them happy on a motorcycle with the child they just said they were going to leave at the orphanage
>>224172744A tad weaker than the previous but still an incredible film. The scene with Godzilla emerging and Ghidorah evolving was 10/10 scene of the year
I liked that it was basically a King Ghidorah movie and he was the best he's been in decades.
The Ghidorah theme should be a permanent theme for Ghidorah for the rest of time
Good thing that building they were standing on had plot armor from multiple atomic blasts
>>224175743Yeah I thought the same thing. That clock tower has to be built of adamantium or something because it survived not just this movie, but the previous movie as well.
>>224175758>>224175743I get the feeling they ran out of money and had to reuse sets and filming locations.
>>224175706I like how it grew multiple lightning rods on its back and started to actually feed on electricity. Their plan literally gave Ghidorah an electricity fetish.
>>224175794The budget of Minus Zero was just 30% higher than that of Minus One. So it wouldn't surprise me if they had to squeeze the absolute most out of everything.
>>224172744Evil shit, lots of smoking including around a loli>>224174363Yes, its a dream sequence .Really stupid scene, it doesn't make sense being New York, it should be LA or San Francisco even.
>>224173471Because you're gay for Godzilla.
>Let's attack the lightning monster with lightning, what could possibly go wrong