>Gunn and Safran were 100% fired from DC, they didn't walk away>The reason for the firing came down to Supergirl failing and Gunn's overarching plan for DC>Ellison also looked poorly on Superman as he thought it didn't hold enough interest to get people to see it's direct spin-off, Supergirl>He was specifically unhappy with the approach taken to Batman as he didn't approve of having an older take on the character who's already on Robin #5>Other popular characters who were set to debut in streaming series Ellison saw as being wasted when they should be starring in theatrical projects instead>While Clayface wasn't strictly disappointing, it coupled with other planned projects made it seem as though Gunn wasn't taking full advantage of the brand>Basically every major DC project that isn't deep into production has been cancelled >Currently it's believed that Gunn's replacement, Jeremy Latcham, is scrapping the DCU as a whole and instead of rebooting again will be focusing on standalone projects outside of a cinematic universe, like Matt Reeves Batman films, with potential to spin off from there
>>224218222fire who you want hire who you want rebooting is a mistake and will only denigrate the brand further
>>224218423>i can't read
>>224218423Anon, they just said they won't reboot it but will keep making standalone movies.
>>224218222>scrapping the DCU as a whole and instead of rebooting again will be focusing on standalone projects outside of a cinematic universeThis is the only reasonable way out of this mess
>>224218222Will DC go down as the most mismanaged IP of all time given the number of retarded undisciplined approaches they have taken in the past 30 year? Other than Nolan's Batman, it's all been meh at best a comically absurd takes most of the time.
>>224218508>>224218222why are people so afraid of shared universes?
Good luck finding anyone talented that wants to work for these assholes and the shitshow that is DC. G
>>224218222i just hope they pick a good wonder woman actress... keep the 2 green lantern fellas they were great in the show just give them a trilogyreeves batman.. part 2 is taking so damn long i wonder if pattinson will bail out of this DC cuckery and go for bond.. why wouldn't he? these people are all bent out of shapemarvel has adapted so much of the comics and DC still hasn't had a few proper justice league films like its just a really sorry state of affairs in comparison
>>224218557You'd be surprised
>>224218523yes. and nolan's batman is pretty mediocre and doesn't stand re-watching. successful at the time though i guess.
>>224218538Pointless. Creates a lot of storytelling problems. Makes it impossible to focus on a particular character or a theme, everything must be a watered down team work of N characters.End all shared universe bullshit. Only an occasional silly crossover is allowed.
>>224218557I can think of one person...#restorethesnyderverse
>>224218628>>224218628>nolan's batman is pretty mediocre and doesn't stand re-watching. successful at the time though i guess.Stop being disingenuous.
>>224218523>Will DC go down as the most mismanaged IP of all time given the number of retarded undisciplined approaches they have taken in the past 30 year? Other than Nolan's Batman, it's all been meh at best a comically absurd takes most of the time.Is DC really an "IP" or is Batman the IP? No one really cares about superman or wonder woman. The justice league worked as a cartoon but only because kids are forgiving. The show itself had a ton of middling episodes that could kill a live action.I think DC really consists of Batman.
>>224219023>Stop being disingenuous.do you even know what that word means? how am i being disingenuous when i say i don't like nolan's batman that much? fuck off you stupid pseud cunt. go be your mother's special boy back down the gaybar and stop shitting up the thread you faggot.
Jeremy Latcham, is scrapping the DCU as a whole and instead of rebooting again will be focusing on standalone projects outside of a cinematic universe, like Matt Reeves Batman films, with potential to spin off from thereAbout fucking time
>>224218628huh?? nolans batman films are greatand just look at his other work; hes not some one trick pony
>>224219103>huh?? nolans batman films are greatThe Dark Knight is great, the other 2 are mediocre crap.
>>224219103>nolans batman films are greatnah. i have them on dvd and have watched them a lot. they don't really keep and these days i find them unwatchable. >and just look at his other work; hes not some one trick ponymost of his other work doesn't chart well and is actually a bit of a slog. his biggest movies by far were the batman trilogy, which accounted for most of his box office take until odyssey. personally, i like inception the most, and that was decent at 260 million budget (inc marketing) vs ~840 million global take. but that's a mediocre perfomance financially and it makes you wonder what the reputation is about.
>>224218423>>224218459>>224218465yes I can read and the very act of >scrapping a continuity >making “standalones”>spinning off those standalones into their own continuity if popular is by definition, rebooting. understanding this is called “reading comprehension, retards
>>224219252i actually sometimes cant decide between begins and tdk, i feel its severely underrated>>224219278what does it matter if all his films don't chart well?very few directors have a consistent amount of such quality filmshe just continues to improve over time
As said in a previous thread if they are expecting a Superman movie to do much better then 600 million they are in for a real surprise. Batman only made 700 million! The Batman 2 isn’t going to make a billion. At best maybe 800 mill. So how the fuck do they expect Superman to have done better? What else is there? Paramount going to be selling DC off to Disney within the next five years
>>224219023Nolan’s Dark Knight movies I’ve watched more than any other movie trilogy ever except for Indy and Star Wars. His Batman is too notch. Shame they can’t get him back.At this point DCs only hope is to lean into a multiverse to try and explain all the discordant characters. Similar to what they were doing in the Flash movie. No point in trying to get one cohesive tone going again. Just smash everything together that’s already been made like a giant toy set. DC owns the rights to these movies so play around with them I guess.
>>224219314>very few directors have a consistent amount of such quality filmshis films aren't really quality is why. he has a fan base and that's great, but i'm not going to sit here and pretend they're amazing.
>>224218538Because I don’t want glorified TV shows pretending to be movies I want a fucking movie where the fucking director makes decisions on casting, story, costumes, sets, tone, and everything else. If Man of Tomorrow introduces Wonder Woman that means whoever they get to direct the eventual Wonder Woman movie is left out of the major part of casting the fucking lead. I would take a million Batman & Robins over one more mediocre as fuck MCU movie.
>>224218222>He was specifically unhappy with the approach taken to Batman as he didn't approve of having an older take on the character who's already on Robin #5can't wait for another Batman trilogy where Dick Grayson is a cameo in the third movie before the next Batman reboot happens
>>224219324Anon that's because the movies are shit and that's the problem. >Batman only made 700 million! Two out of three Nolan's took over a billion. They expect the movies to do better because of the money and production time spent on them. And if you can't turn that into profit you don't get movies. >The Batman 2 isn’t going to make a billion. At best maybe 800 mill.That's a problem because the budget is believed to be north of 200 million. So the new ownership is asking why all this money is being spent on low performers. Because with that budget you need to return and return good. That's the point you seem to be missing.
>>224219426Then new ownership isn’t very bright because that’s the state of the industry. Disney just dumped almost a billion into Doomsday. It won’t even break even at a billion. Chances are it will lose money but they are using it to sell their new rebooted universe. 800 mill off a 200 million budget is a success by any standard today
>>224219498>because that’s the state of the industry.It's the state of the industry because the product is shit anon. No one is paying to see these movies because they're trash. Spiderman and Odyssey broke 2 billion. People will pay to see shit they like. >800 mill off a 200 million budget is a success by any standard todayObsession cost less than a million and returned over 500 million. Backrooms in similar fashion. Spiderman had the same budget as Batman 2 is supposed to have and did 2 billy. The 'state of the industry' is instead because the movies are trash and the audience is sick of it.
>>224219426No one’s going to come out for the third rebooted Superman in ten years. Coming out for the second reboot to the tune of $600 million was a goddamn miracle. Unless somehow they manage to raise Stanley Kubrick from the dead and convince him to make it, a third Superman reboot is doomed to fail. To the general public the DC brand is a joke and it needs to be put away for a good long while before trying again
>imma cast the third superman in ten years because im a retarded billionaire who loves trump and wanted to buy him cnn lololololol
>>224219617>No one’s going to come out for the third rebooted Supermanwell we're going to find out. deal with it
What is the thinking right now?
This is seriously embarrassing
>>224219678Yeah, probably, studio execs are moderately retarded as has been proven time and time again>deal with itOkay?
>>224218222But last year the schizo assured me that superman restored faith in the brand and that box office results do not matter?
>>224219724b-b-but i /tv/ fags told me it was profitable!
>>224219696Gay sex if his movies are any indication.
>>224219696He’s getting on his best dick-sucking lipstick and mapquesting directions to the new guy’s house
>>224219724How many movies this year broke even? I can think of like four>Obsession>Backrooms>Spider-Man>The Odyssey
>>224218222I have no hope for the future of DC and if I never see another comic book movie besides Batman ever again, I would be fine.Gunn's plans for Batman were stupid. No one wants to watch Robin.
>>224219678synderbros won’t be happy because it’s not synder. gunnbros won’t watch it because the dream is dead. normies won’t care because capeshit is over. this is just genuinely dumb business.
Josh Whedon can save DC even though he oncemdestroyed it with his mangling of the Justice League movie
>>224219762What are we projecting Man of Tomorrow's box office numbers to be? What's going to be the Marvel movie equivalent of Man of Tomorrow?
>>224218222Despite WBs retardation, we at least got BvS ultimate cut. Top 5 comic book movie of al time
>>224219101>standalone projectswhat does this mean?no more batman or chance of having roblin/batman beyond?
>>224219869batman will only star in batman movies etc. no crossovers/joint ventures.
>>224219762>capeshit is overnot by a long shot. DC just sucks and constantly fumble billion dollar IP. people will still flock to the latest Marvel schlock for god knows what
>>224219898>people will still flock to the latest Marvel schlock for god knows whatYeah, the new Fantastic Four and Thunderbolts really tore the box office up
I wanted to like Gunn's Superman (I absolutely despise Snyder's Murderman), but I couldn't give it anything above a 6 out of 10. Lois was pretty great, but Superman/Clark was too immature, I couldn't see him ever becoming the leader of the JLA. Luthor was well acted, but a far cry from how I see Luthor in my mind's eye (too much yelling and hissy fits). Can't say I'm sad to see Gunn go, but saw some interview with the new guy... and yeah, I'm not sure I'm interested in evangelical-flavored DC superheroes (it'll be Bat-family shit mostly anyways). Hollywood will never get Superman right: Burton? Singer? McG? JJ? Snyder? Gunn? WTF are these choices?
>>224219815before this, I would have comfortably said 700 mil realistically, optimistically a billy. now it’ll likely crawl past 200 mil. man of tomorrow with diana and john and Kara and guy and peacemaker with little bits from beetle and bloodsport would’ve brought in audiences. now the final cut will likely not have diana, maybe john, likely guy, less likely kara, and for sure a peacemaker scene as paradise was supposed to be pivotal to the plot; no beetle or bloodsport. what was meant to be a justice league-lite and event film for the dcu will now be it’s funeral. cut to reduce costs on an obvious anomaly in the matrix. a misnomer that cannot be but does.so yeah sorry 200 mil.
>>224219762>synderbros won’t be happy because it’s not synder.Nah, we celebrating.
>>224218222Why did it take until now and not immediately after the merger finished?
dude has deadass completely lost the plot... the fuck are you doing bro
>>224219617DC fans are over it
Zero shame in admitting Snyder was better. You don’t have to think his stuff was a 10/10. Gunn’s DCU was just lame as fuck.
>>224219952because ellison is making christian nationalist propaganda? synder by the way is pro-palestine and habitual dnc donator.
>>224219597>Duh I’m going to use the most popular comic book character with over a decade build up success and the most popular director as the norm instead of outliers
>>224219939Aquaman 2 was released on a similar note and only retained 32% of Aquaman 1's audience, so your numbers might be fairly accurate, if slightly low.
>>224218538It has worked EXACTLY ONCE, and Marvel had incredibly talented people holding it together. They walked in with a ten year game plan and executed it to a t. DC can't even keep a universe going for THREE YEARS. DC has been through THREE universes in the time Marvel has been in one. Marvel is already doing the reunion tour while DC hasn't left the starting gate. Just give it up.
>>224219937Oh, and Brett Ratner! How could I forget him? Given his 'connections' to the Ellisons, who knows, he may finally get to direct a Superman movie.
>>224219979I’m a lifelong DCfag and I’m over it. I just hope they don’t fuck with the Absolute comics.
>>224219990They both suck and you are a faggot spammer obsessed with a hack director that beats off to Cavill pics you dung hut living jeet
>>224219042Yes DC is an IP you tard. Aquaman Made a Billy, Wonder Woman 1 did as well. Superman films perform well domestically but not against their budgets. There's a cost and coordination issue, not an appeal issue.
>>224218222Surely this is 100% asspull bullshit, right?How does DC just keep rebooting and dropping the ball without giving anything some time to develop?
>>224219597>Obsession cost less than a million and returned over 500 million. Backrooms in similar fashion.You exhibit the same logical fallacy as these producers. Clayface is not Obsession, not is it Backrooms. Success of one thing does not equal success for your thing. Tony Stark and his scraps doesn't mean shit for youm
>>224218222>Gunn's overarching plan for DCHe had a plan?!It doesn't seem that he even had a cohesive plan for his Superman movie.
DC is so dead. Everyone hates this
>>224218222Feels good to have never been optimistic about this in the first place
>>224220138What he is talking about? He's pretty much describing the new Superman or the Lanterns show.
>>224220138Did this retard see Superman? It was rushed garbage and they had little chemistry. What little there was came from the actors despite Gunn's bullshit. And bland humor? What the fuck did Gunn have? Lame as fuck humor. How was the horrible obscene humor in Peacemaker not bland in how tryhard it was. And Superman was just as bad without the obscenity. Supergirl was somewhere between with lame pooping alien foods and Krypto pissing on a pic of Superman. Also, what actual John Stewart fan enjoyed that disgusting selfish character they called John in that shitty Lanterns show?
They should stop making slop for adults and make a teen titans movie for kids, like spy kids. They should leave their wailing adult edgelord coomers to become dust in the wilderness and corner the PG13 comic fan (cartoons fan) audience and pretend all the batman getting a divorce shit doesn't exist.
>>224218538Its limiting to what a movie can be since it has to fit in to the puzzle of a bigger picture. A lot of properties work better on their own.
>>224219937>I'm not sure I'm interested in evangelical-flavored DC superheroesLatchman was Senior Vice President of Marvel Studios.
mass appeal slop movies with no regard for the characters or material incoming
>>224220068>Clayface is not ObsessionYes Jason Clayface is a flop like the rest of your shit so why the fuck should the studio continue to bankroll your silly fucking ideas when other people can make movies that profit under the same market conditions?
>>224218222>>He was specifically unhappy with the approach taken to Batman as he didn't approve of having anWhat does this mean for non zoomers like me?
>>224219724I wanted this to succeed just because that actor's first language is Welsh and I think that's neat.
>>224220308Batman when he gets Robin 1 is like 30 in the comics. On Robin 5 means he’s close to 50. It would have been an older Batman in the movie with a complete “Batfamily” all without backstories or set up.For instance, Robert Pattinson is 42 or some shit but his Batman is a 29 year old in The Batman and is played as a young man.Christian Bale was 30 in Batman Begins and it took place on Bruce’s 30th birthday.No one wants an old Batman with all his shitty robins, the comics and Batfamily fucking suck and should never be on screen ever.
>>224220308Batman would have been superhero'ing for a long time, would've been older, and so realistically you probably won't have the actor for too long. If you're trying to do your own MCU, that's not ideal when your bread and butter character has planned obsolescence; it'd be like introducing Peter Parker Spider-Man and setting it up to kill him and replace him with Miles from the get-go.
>>224219757it really is just like bollywood now.
>>224219991>synder by the way is pro-palestineanother reason to celebrate!
>>224220010Aquaman 2 was hampered by Amber's court case.
>>224220409Gunn said just last week that his Batman was going to be around the same age as Superman. So all of this “Batman was going to be older” is easily disproven bullshit. Just because Damien is Robin #5 in the comics doesn’t mean he’d be Robin #5 in the movie.
>>224220223Teen heroes are an absolutely slept on sub genre and half the reason Spider-Man does so damn well. Speak to the youth and you create life long fans.
>>224220513Turd. Hehe
>>224220308There is one Robin that matters and that's Dick Grayson. And he matters because he sets up Teen Titans and becomes a good character in his own right (Nightwing)
>>224220513And Gunn.
>>224220554>Speak to the youth and you create life long fans.Yeah I got given a free spiderman comic at a fair as a kid and have been a fan ever since. Can watch unlimited hours of him swinging around stopping crimes. Its perennial content.
>>224218222Ellison is an idiot failson and Skydance will collapse
All Gunn had to do was release brave and the bold in the place of supergirl and announced a justice league movie. Now we will never get another dc cinematic universe.
>mid term lost and trump and his sycophants at Sundance are now going after their political enemies such one Mr. GunnI can't wait for the Dem to throw the Allisons in Congressional hearing and put them in jail
>>224219937>I absolutely despise Snyder's MurdermanWhy do you people seethe so much that Superman killed a genocidal maniac?
>>224220662>release brave and the boldNo one knows or cares what that isJust make Batman punch bad guys its printing money
Why didn't they just do an Absolute Batman film Spin it off in an Absolute Universe movie series if it does wellIt's the only DC comic that sells anyway
>>224220666Nobodies throwing anyone in jail, especially not over a capeshit firing.
>>224220681Brave and the bold is Batman.
>>224220307>Muh flopOk genius. What DC characters right now are guaranteed to make a billion. Because anything less than a billion is a muh flop.
>>224220713Batman if you hype it right. Teen Titans if you hype it right. Justice League.
>>224220698No it isn't its some chapter of a gay book about a bunch of shit no one cares about. Just like no one cares about man of tomorrow or any of that gay shit. Comics movies are for normies not for comics fans, listing or referencing comic runs is retarded minutia and extremely niche. Just make Batman, steal whatever comic shit you want, let the aspies goon over knowing the reference while normies enjoy it. None of these comic stories have the gravitas to carry a movie.
>>224219103For starters, Nolan fight scenes are a joke.
>>224220819“Batman: The Brave and the Bold” it’s not that hard
>>224220754Batman isn’t making a billion with no build up. Had The Batman 2 not had delays it might’ve come close. Another Batman reboot isn’t going to even come close to a billion. It won’t even make as much as The Batman
>>224220918If it’s comic accurate Batman instead of grounded slop it will do a billion. Cast a popular actor, Robin, iconic villains, tease that this leads to stuff like teen titans and cast that movie around the same time.
>>224220876Yeah that sounds gay as fuck its Batman why does it need some lame ass overly poetic name he dresses like a fucking bat its not that serious
>>224220713Batman Begins didn't make a billion but the sequel, The Dark Knight, did. Superman 2025, when adjusted for inflation, follows the same trajectory as Batman Begins and the Man of Tomorrow sequel will probably make more money than Superman 2025. The Batman 2, will probably also make more money than the first movie.If they bring Supergirl back for another film, they have to get rid of the drunkenness because Gen Z doesn't really drink alcohol and half of them are struggling in the economy and can't afford to drink alcohol at nightclubs and bars. They have to make Supergirl resonate with the new generations somehow, but without giving her an iPad.
>>224221002Your head must’ve exploded with The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises. We also just had “The Batman”.
>>224221029Not how things are run. Current WB-Paramount would’ve fired Nolan because Begins only made 300 million and there’d be no Dark Knight. It’s a billion or muh flop
>>224218222>will be focusing on standalone projects outside of a cinematic universethank the lord
>>224221035>The Dark KnightPretentious garbage name and has aged poorly Gotham was unironically better but adam west batman is peak
>>224221102Ah I see you’re just 96 years old and retarded.
>>224221059Sounds like those billionaires who put Americans out of work, replace them with pajeets because they are cheap, then jack up the prices of their products.
Gunn’s Superman was the most critically well received Superman since Superman ‘78 and a strong second weekend hold at 52% which meant great word of mouth and repeat viewing. But because didn’t make a billie it’s a massive failure
>>224221102So pretentious that both dark knight movies made a billion dollars.
>>224221176Yes because people called them batman movies. No one cares about the edgelord dark knight moniker.
>>224221188I don’t even know what you’re arguing. You seem to have no point beyond being argumentative for the sake of it.
>>224221188You mean like the Dark Knight Returns, the biggest capeshit graphic novel ever? You are a brown idiot
>>224221201>I don’t even know what you’re arguingToo much pandering to niche comic readers and not enough normie bait cartoons fanservice. Comics have been a dead irrelevant form of media for 30 years. >>224221206>graphic novelCase in point, absolutely niche virgin term only used by navel gazing hacks and autistic manchildren. Its a comic. Graphic novel, what a sick joke.
>>224221174It wasn't just that it didn't make a billion, its because it also cost like 500m and not a single fucking person was asking for another one. The spending did not justify itself
>>224221102>adam west batman is peakDo you honestly think this?
>>224221259So we should just have a million Batman movies called “Batman (year of release)”
>>224219757Toy story
>>224221288Yes, give it a shot, same bat time same bat channel>>224221313Call them whatever you want the problem isn't the name its what it represents and pretentious or ultra niche taking itself too seriously shit is cancer for comics stuff because comics are inherently silly
>>224221288Not him but I absolutely do. Loved it since I was a little kid. Love it more as an adult.
>>224221287So a cheaper Superman movie with less action and horrific CGI will get people to watch a Superman movie? Because that sounds like CW Superman and Lois
>>224221341Either 96 or incredibly autistic.
>>224221174People were trying to show support for the new DCU. It was not about that movie specifically. If people actually loved Superman 2025, they would have turned out for Supergirl. Instead they did the complete opposite. It was Superman 2025 dressed up as a girl, without the implied weight of the universe on its shoulders, and it became one of the biggest bombs.
>>224221389Bummer he looks like that
>>224221259So you are retarded and probably brown.These trash have zero connection with the comics save some surface plot points.It is always a "winning recipe" to change the source material your derivative garbage is based.Just die at this point, you are only wasting oxygen.
>>224221401You will never get it
>>224221389>implying Gunns movie had good CGI or actionLmaoAlso you dont need 500 million to have good fucking CGI or action scenes. There was no reasonable reason it should have cost that much. Cut the damn cast in half as a start so its actually a fucking superman movie and thats a good bit of budget already saved.
>>224221335What ultra niche you fucking moron. Comics were billions dollars industry up to the 90s.All your modern pop culture is based on them.How can you be so painfully clueless and retarded?
>>224221422Nah all the capeshitter ""graphic novel"" types want to see wheelchair girl and all their other gay shit on the big screen while normies have no idea wtf any of that is and don't want to see batmans prostate cancer diagnosis just punch bad guys and throw bat shurikens at people it writes itself
>>224221341Do you have dementia now or are you a recent reincarnation that watched that shit in your previous life?
>>224221448Hi its 2026, not the 90s
>>224218538They aren't afraid of them, that's the problem, many have tried but only MCU and the Conjuring-verse worked out
>>224221467>He didn't come home after school to see re runs of batman and star trek before watching tng later in the evening with the family Don't even know what you're missing
>>224221467Did you not have tvland as a kid?
I really hope they just reset. The James Gunn stank was already effecting Superman. Not point is trying to salvage it. Just restart.Dont make Superman a whiny bitch. Have him actually strong.
>>224221490I was watching cartoons and playing videogames. Only live action shit I saw was Star Wars and Transformers.
>>224221457You are a clueless normie then who's has no idea unsurprisingly.Nobody has any fucking idea what to do with these characters. You are all living on comic book material that came out decades ago. The fact that you think that comics are silly or pretentious reveals what an ultra normie, clueless faggot you are.What is pretentious and silly is capeshit movies, not the comics they constantly try to mess as much as possible.I bet you think that killing joke represents "comics" are something as moronic as that.
>>224221469Exactly, and you have nothing to show for other than egregious, nonsensical movies you hacked from fucking 40 year old "silly" books, so shut the fuck up.
>>224221507All I know about killing joke is that its some gay joker shit I don't care about and that the gay romance between joker and batman is very cringe and played out, I hope never to have to see it referenced again
>>224220686theyre making an animated series that will be mostly a direct adaptation, that will probably be safe. another article talked about how Skydance has been entirely hands off with the comics side of DC simply because of Absolute Batmans success
cool now I can pitch my Spectre movie and my Legends of the Dark Knight anthology tv show
>>224221490No man I absolutely did that, I just didn't like that gay shit because I was not born in the fucking 50s.
>>224221405> people actually loved Spider Man they would’ve turned out for Madam Web
>>224221536Sounds like you don't like tv in general
>>224221502I love hearing it myself. Its way too early to call Death on DC there are so many characters left. OK so we got stuck with Corensweat Superman but we can live with it. Cancel Batman 2 and call it Elseworlds and then just make Batman a truly upstanding man who gives that daddy feeling from a Paramount+ TV show fuck it make Richson Reacher Batman, it would work. Reacher is Amazon but whatever.Now give us extremely hot Wonder Woman, hit it out of the park with The Flash and give us Hal Lantern and say the other bullshit in Lanterns was Elseworlds. That is not a bad roster imo.As long as they make Supergirl about being a precocious drunken bitch and give us 10/10 smokeshow Wonder Woman it will appease fans I think. Basically Supergirl will only appear in cameos or Avengers level movies.They can easily tweak Crypto to be cool. Honestly, not even sure why people despised Crypto so much.
>Clayface and Polka Dot Man will save the DCU
>>224221574Problem is Man of Tomorrow introduces Wonder Woman and shit load of other characters. The suits were saying Man of Tomorrow doesnt feel like a Superman movie, its a straight up Avengers movie jam packed with a million characters. We will be stuck with these interpretations unless we reboot.
>>224218538Because DC's characters cant work in a team. The Justice League (1960s and now) always was a meme because the powerlevel of Superman is too big vs the others.
>>224221721The Avengers work fine with Hulk and Thor on the same team as metal suit guy and bow man.
>>224221753Superman is a cheat code character. Why Sneeder killed his ass off in BvS and he was only in like 15 minutes of a 3 hour JL movie. What you need Batman or anyone really when you got Superman
What were they thinking with hiring Gunn anyway? Guardians of the Galaxy are not good movies, they benefited massively from the Marvel mania até the time and the shared universe building up.
>>224221781You just do what One Piece does and create a main big bad for the strongest character to fight and then subsequently weaker henchman for each member of your hero team to fight. Superman and darksneed fly away to fight in space or something while green bow guy and Batman beat up black order or whatever the fuck guys on the ground.
>>224218222>this is going to defeat marvel
>>224221845Nobody wanted the job because the WB and now Paramount are morons. They knew the IPs were trashed and would get fired becuase it wasn’t making Marvel money.
>>224218222Crazy that they still want to move forward with gay emo The Batman 2. I’m sure that will be quietly cancelled in a year or so given how much of a mess it is.Does anyone care about DC anymore anyway?
>>224221878What options did Gunn have? Reeves was holding Batman hostage. Reboot The Flash and Aquaman?
>>224221902So why did they even give Batman to Reeves in the first place?
>>224221902How the hell did they not have a clause in the contract “make a sequel within the next two years or lose the project”?Now their young Batman is old and Matt Reeves is taking all that money to be sad somewhere.
>>224221963The biggest fuckup of DC after Snyder is the Reevesverse by far. Fans don't wanna hear it but it's blatantly true. No idea what they were thinking with this shit
>>224221935Affleck didn’t want to direct The Batman so they brought in Reeves who wrote Affleck out of his own movie so could bring in his Batman in Pattison
>>224222009It’s funny because even the Reeves fans were starting to just want the 2nd and 3rd movies to be cancelled so they could get a DCU Batman. I watch a few of these zoomer DC channels that loved The Batman and that was increasingly what they were saying especially after this most recent delay.
JUST. DO. THIS. IN. LIVE. ACTION. YOU. RETARDS. YOU HAVE HAD THE BLUEPRINT LAID BEFORE YOU FOR 30 YEARS
>>224222104Don't care don't care shit outfit meh ok I guess don't care don't care
>>224222104It’s funny because this is what Gunn was originally claiming he was gonna do. The DCAU was supposed to be the biggest inspiration for his vision of the DCU. And then he watched Venom or something idk.
>>224222104Ok, so you losers saying Gunn’s Superman was weak and pathetic want the weakest Superman ever who gets owned and cucked constantly by Batman? Right, just like Snyder
>>224220200John was very close to being good, post time skip if he had turned Carry in and Carey was just never responsible, and he chose his own lantern it would have been great. But the show fucked itself too early.>>>>224221389>Writer Superman like Superman instead of a whiney “the wholesome” adult boy.>People like itIs it like impossible for Gunn to write mature characters that act like adults and not whiney adult boys.
