CAUSE I'M A NECK SNAPPER YES I AM
>NO MURDERMAN I DON'T WANT TO KILL THAT FAMILY>THEN DIE YOURSELF HRAAAAAAAAAAGH
>>224248628No you aren't.
>>224248695TELL THAT TO ZOD'S SNAPPED NECK!
>>224248628>when he's nutting but I keep jerking 'cause I'm Sperman
>>224248628Just hold him at bay for every remaining second of your life bro
>>224248732Okay. Hey Zod's snapped neck, you're not a necksnapper according to 4chan.
It’s still baffling that they had him turn Zod’s neck in the direction of the family instead of twisting it in the opposite direction. It doesn’t even make sense
>>224248628I find it bizarre how butthurt mutts are about this scene considering what a murderous nation they are.Not to mention their genocidal best friends.
>>224248628Don't care, He loves his Mama & I got DBZ fight scenes.
>>224248885it’s because they love to pretend and keeping the charade. A tech channel I used to follow had a total meltdown a while back, ranting about ICE, "fascism," and all that sort of thing. For people like that, the US was always a bastion of virtue until the orange man came along. You can't expect anything from americans.
>>224248628Zack Snyder is the only director with the vision and balls to actually have heroes make hard choices that challenge their values and morals where they have to live and reconcile with them. It makes much more interesting storytelling compared to the same boring formula that Gunn and the MCU do over and over again.
>>224249008And did we ever again see Superman question this, himself, or show that it had impacted him in any way?
>>224248885I find it bizarre that asians can be 5'5 and not kill themselves out of shame.
>>224248628i don't know why it would even count. zod wasn't human, was peer level with superman and doesn't really figure into the whole snapping down concept where superman shouldn't be killing people. and why would a human be upset that an alien badguy got killed in what's basically an alien civil war? doesn't make sense.
>>224248628Gunnfags are scared.
>>224249032Well he went up a mountain, and his ghost dad told him about that time he saw a bunch of horses slowly drown to death and dying in pain.
Why didn’t he just fly away with him into space?
>>224248672What you said just made no fucking sense.
>>224249032What do you think Doomsday represents symbolically? Or why he was hunting Batman? They were all projections of his inner guilt.
>>224248838The reaction of Superman also makes it look like he's looking at the now dead family afterwards lol
>>224249102kind of did and zod just threw Bruce Wayne's satellite at himThat's why in movies like this they should behave the hero try something like that a few times but keep failing at it or something
>>224249129Zodd tried to save Metropolis from Murderman.
>>224248628couldn't happen in Gunnverse
Still one of the most unintentionally funny moments in any movie
>>224249099And that had what to do with the Zod scenario?
>>224249231>MY LEGS I CAN'T FEEL MY LEGS>MOMMY MOMMY>I CAN'T BREATHE HELP HEEEELP
>>224249131So strange that he never mentioned it at any point and that nobody else did either
>>224249231They spent way too much of this movie on Perry and the indian lady
>man blows himself up>people burn to death around him>senator is covered in granny's peach tea>just stands there aura farming
>>224249032The entire movie of BvS is him grappling with the weight of his power and internalized guilt. Why do you think he was constantly holding back against Batman?
>>224249375>internalized guilt.Behead Snyder.
>>224249283What, you literally need some exposition or voice over to understand themes and shit?
>>224249296
>>224249411zoomers dont have internal monologue
>>224249429Is that true? Because I'm inclined to believe it regardless.
>>224249283How can you watch this and not understand what the movie is trying to tell you?The towering statue in the background glorifying Superman as a hero, the monster in the middle representing how some perceive him, and the actual man confronting his own distorted reflections. The movie even ends without a monument after his death, with the message that he is in everyone of us.
>>224249375He’s upset because humans hate him. Zod never comes up
>>224248628Why didn't he just swivel his eyes. Did he have to turn his whole head?
>>224249570That has nothing to do with him feeling guilt over Zod
>>224249575>>224249590He literally fights the corpse of Zod brought back as a zombified monster. A reminder of his sin, with Lex literally telling him so. In dialogue.
>>224249583He turns his head towards them as well. Increasing the likelihood of them being lasered
>>224248957>trap>hot girl i want to rapeyeah, this one checks out for 4chan
>>224249607Superman is never made aware that Doomsday used to be Zod. If he were, and if the movie had previously shown him dealing with the emotional weight of killing Zod, it would have actually been quite impactful
>>224249272I never thought about it, but Snyderfags were really mad about the scene where Supes is making out with Lois while the dimensional imp is fighting in the background, but this is the same issue, just objectively 10000x worse. There's no reason to believe anyone even got hurt by the imp.
>>224248628>nooo you should have peacefully stopped him from genociding humansAnti-killfags are archaic
>>224249583he could have superflown to the xmen mansion, borrowed cyclop's spare glasses, and superglued them to zod's head
If Snyder had made Batman v Superman but it was like, Hades v Zeus or some shit instead, it would have been kino. It's basically a mythological movie. The reason it's stupid is because it's comic book faggots in spandex.
>>224249661The movie shows you, and the Lex tells him. What do you think the talk with his father up the mountain was about? About the unintended consequence of good intentions. Jonathan tried to save his father's farm from the incoming flood by redirecting it, and thought himself a hero, but then later realized he drowned the horses of the next farm, anf that plagued him with guilt. WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT IS ABOUT, YOU INBRED CUNT?
>>224249697So was he supposed to just do nothing? You gotta look after your own first. If other people suffer because you prioritized your own family or property, that's unfortunate, but that doesn't make you responsible.
>>224249732He wasn't wrong to try to save his family's farm, but he was still responsible for the drowning of the other farm's animals. One action doesn't negate the other. Similarly, Superman did his best to protect people, yet still had to kill Zod and could not save everyone. He acted rightly, but tragedy still occurred.So, like Superman, Jonathan shouldn't shy away from his guilt or deny his role in the tragedy. He should have the courage to accept his share of responsibility and keep moving forward. If it ever feels overwhelming, he can lean on his loved ones to find strength and support.That's ultimately what Superman arc in BvS is all about.
>>224248628K I N Oreddit gunn would have just had hawk girl or guy gardner come in last second and kill Zod and have superman go "aww shucks, that didnt have to happen!" to remove him of any moral culpability despite him being a superpowered fascist that takes it upon himself to help humanity through force
Wasn't Martha Wayne actually Martian Manhunter? Was Jonathan gay?
>>224249661
>>224249852You have no idea how good the mussy is
>superman doesnt kil-
>>224249697His exchange with his father is about how humanity is treating him, not because he feels bad about the fact he killed Zod. And Doomsday being Zod's reanimated corpse is not explained to him. You’re getting angry and abusive, but you’re simply not correct
>>224249937>kills the villain without destroying an entire cityBased Supes
>>224249886Yeah, that doesn’t change the fact he doesn’t show any remorse over killing Zod or change his ways because of it. Actually completely irrelevant
>>224249937This was fun and innocent comic book stuff, the baddie getting his comeuppance but not in a way that's graphically or excessively violent.
I will admit I am a marvelfag I find it very amusing how DC cannot stop shitting the bed 24/7 with the most basic of shit still The level of cope from some of you people is honestly very interesting
>>224249296>superman having to grapple with safeguarding a populice that is terrified of him, knowing that billions of peoples entire lives were shaken up the moment he revealed himself>realizing in real time this entire thing was a setup specifically to make him a public enemy and he will be blamed for gotham 9/11>zoomers: BRUHHHHH HE AURA FARMIN FR FR EMO AHH SUPER MANwe didnt deserve snyder bros
>>224249976The entire movie is about inner guilt and characters refusing to deal with it, projecting their demons unto others, and this leading to conflict. >Jonathan Kent: >It's somethin', innit? One minute in Kansas livin' on a pancake so we come to the mountains. All downhill from here; down to the floodplain, arm at the bottom of the world. >I remember one season the water came bad. I couldn't've been twelve. Dad had out the shovels and we went at it all night. We worked 'til I think I fainted, but we managed to stop the water. We saved the farm. Your grandma baked me a cake, said I was a hero. >Later that day we found out we blocked the water alright - we sent it upstream. A whole Lange farm washed away. While I ate my hero cake, their horses were drowning. >I used to hear them wailing in my sleep.Superman:>Did the nightmares ever stop?Jonathan Kent: >Yeah. When I met your mother. She gave me faith that there's good in this world. >She was my world. >I miss you, Son.Superman: >I miss you too, Dad.What do you think this entire exchange might be about? Specially after the capitol bombing, which leads him to almost hang the cape, because he feels like he's guilty of it. Hell, he even tells Lois, that what worries him the most is not that he didn't know it was going to explode, but that he ignore it, because he couldn't face the crippled guy.
>>224249998>or change his ways because of it. Actually completely irrelevantSuperman doesn't kill anyone else through all of Snyder's movies.
>>224250042They wouldn't be so afraid if he didn't spend half the fight with Zodd, aura farming.
>>224249994That's one thing I liked about the Gunn movie. Superman's concern for minimizing infrastructure damage, even in the middle of a plaza surrounded by skyscrapers.In Man of Steel he must have killed tens of thousands of people. Enormous civilian casualties.
As messy as the writing is in the Snyderverse at times, I still find the philosophy and visual storytelling far more compelling and impactful than almost all capeshit aside from the DCAU.
>>224250108Cool, now point out where killing Zod got mentioned in literally any of it
>>224250136>That's one thing I liked about the Gunn movie. Superman's concern for minimizing infrastructure damage, even in the middle of a plaza surrounded by skyscrapers.It is easy when the movie stop all internal logic to give Superman enough time to magically rescue people one by one, slowly.
Zod was based.
>>224250128??????its insinuated he killed at least thousands of civilians around Wayne Enterprised alone
>>224248628Still better than Zoomerman
>>224250155You're a retard.
>>224250155I don't even know what you mean, he purposefully controls the fight with the big monster so it doesn't knock over a tower and kill a thousand people for no reason.
How many of those casualties were directly Superman's fault compared to Zod's
>>224250128His first appearance in BvS is him smirking before obliterating a guy through multiple brick walls. At no point does he say he feels any shame about taking Zod’s life. He also kills Doomsday by the way
>>224250199Irrelevant, he should have led Zod out of the city or something. Superman is supposed to be smart. Duking it out downtown is guaranteed to result in mayhem.
>>224250199superman was the only one that survived, so 100%?
>>224250193What is happening to everyone while he is rescuing a squirrel? The movie doesn't show because the movie has no internal logic and that would defeat the feel good nature of that shitty sequence. Superman literally spend minutes rescuing people one by one, with the movie wasting time to show how cute that is, all while the monster is still rampaging. But we all know the people are all magically fine because the movie is fucking meant to be ass like that.
>>224250205That guy survives.
>>224250233Metropolis probably doesn't have that much violent crime; Superman's presence there is deterence.
>>224250250Proof? Because he was never shown again.He also definitely killed Doomsday
>>224250220The whole point of MoS is that being Superman isn't and shouldn't be easy, specially in this new grounded take. He can't do it all alone and he can't be in both places at the same time. That's why he has to learn to trust in others and share the duty of saving the day with the army, AMERICA FUCK YEAH.
>>224250272Gunn movie also has that; while he is dealing with his Bizarro clone Green Lantern and co. have to go defuse the situation in notPalestine.
>>224250252 the citizens of gotham in BvS were living in constant terror as slavic roided gangsters and undescript street hoodlums victimized random people, its why batman became an anti-terrorist terrorist
>>224250252It's not about the crime, it is about the monster rampaging around while has time to rescue a fucking squirelll and smile. Meanwhile everything is frozen. The monster is waiting for him. Nothing bad is happening. Because it can't, otherwise it would defeat the feel good moment. The movie runs on pure bullshit cartoon logic.
>>224249937The difference between Superman and Batman is Batman absolutely won't kill while Superman will do it if you're some apocalyptic freak.
>>224250220Wasn't Zod dragging him back into the city on purpose to maximize collateral damage?
>>224250233They get into that in the directors cut.
>>224250305He was, but that defeats my argument.
>>224250298Yes well Gotham is a shithole with a fugitive vigilante. Metropolis is watched over by a superhuman deity.
>>224250300How that should have actually gone down.
>>224250300It is kind of cartoon like, and there's nothing wrong with that. These are silly movies.
>>224250347
>>224250250How do you survive being ran through a brick wall by a speeding train?
>>224250347>Directed by Zack Snyder
>>224250326gotham is right next to metropolis, so basically youre saying superman could help them but he wont because theyre poor?
>>224250347>>224250367>If Superman had to save Marvel civilians for a day
>>224250326Spends a little too much time watching over it instead of actually stopping stuff
>>224250319Hey, fair enough
>>224250347Wow he even does the Jesus pose at 0:31 saying ''Why have thou forsaken me?'' Brilliant movie Snyder. Best symbol!
>>224248628You seen upset.
>>224250154You see, Snyder actually understands the idea of "show, don't tell". Should Superman look directly into the camera and tell the audience why he does what he does?
>>224251017So you can’t?
>>224251081see >>224250108
>>224251165Cool, so Zod never came into it at all
>>224248885le hope punk rocker supergirl ends with a completely unnecesary execution,unlike this one
>>224248628Can someone explain why killing an enemy to prevent the imminent deaths of innocents is bad, but dropping a defenseless old man to his death is something superman would tolerate?
>>224251370If you kill your enemies, they win.
>>224248628Why does Superman killing a genocidal maniac cause so much seething and butthurt?
>>224251428Because it’s badly directed
>>224251428Why didn't he snap his neck the moment he had him at his farm, instead of shoving him through several buildings and causing ungodly amounts of damage?
Daily reminder that there is no discussion with Superman 2025. There is nothing to analize or to think about. You cant analize or argue about the actions, meanings or personalities. Because there arent any.The only discussion is that if boravia was russia or israel, and had Gunn know at that time people would associate it with pissrael, he would have rewrote it. He clearly meant Russia because like most deranged leftists their interests and obsessions are fads that vary with every season. When he wrote that shit it was peak ghost of kiev crap.
>>224248628SECOND VERSE SAME AS THE FIRST
I miss when Superman would save a cat from a tree
>>224251428Why do short brown men obsessively defend a bad film that is rightly made fun of?
