What went wrong?
>>224252550Warner Bros management and Skydance management
>FAFO: The Brand
This is just my opinion. Supergirl, many think it deviated from the source material way too much. I read the comics last year, Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow. To me, it is way too repetitive. It is a manhunt in space story. Each time they visited a planet, they were told they were too late he was gone. This repeated so many times it's not even funny. I thought it was so overrated. Great art though, all the way through. That's about it. 5/10 comic story.
>>224252550Tried to pick up the pieces in an unclear way after years of the brand going down the shitter
>>224252550hiring gunn
>>224252550Honestly, firing Zack.
>>224252683It wasn’t going well when he was in charge though
>>224252683What's the appeal of Snyder's DC movies?
>>224252683>Honestly, firing Zack.He just needed a tard wrangler.
>>224252550Two words. James. Gunn.
>>224252683And hiring Zack
>>224252691how so? his movies were making money, and people still talk about them.>b-but my favorite youtuber said they were badwho cares?
>>224252550Your mother didn't have an abortion.
>>224252550not casting Sydney Sweeney as Powergirl
>>224252550warner brothers was probably the most mismanaged studio in america. they fucked up so bad they had to sell or go under. that's it.
Can we get a Gen 13 adaption now that they plan to go back to wholesome entertainment?
>>224253046Based
>>224253046I have this poster in storage somewhere.
>>224253144Why don't they do more windstorm stuff?
>>224253046Sorry only "heavy hitters" (implying DC have one).
>>224252875All of the DC films he directed performed well below their expected earnings. YouTubers have nothing to do with this
>>224252875>b-but my favorite youtuber said they were bad>who cares?Had to invent a nonexistent argument that wasn’t even made
>>224253276While still making more money rhan the Gunn slop
>>224253252batman aquaman flash
>>224252810Very bollywood much izzat sir.
>>224253311Gunn’s film doing badly doesn’t change these fact that Snyder’s films all came on well under their projected earnings. You guys keep trying this argument but it just doesn’t change anything
>>224252810Fully embracing the mythological aspect and not have constant interuptions with quipsThe sincerity
>>224253374Fuck off hypocrite, Gunn's films couldn't compete with contemporary Marvel
>we want Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, Justice League>how about Creature Commandos, my OC character Peacemaker, drunk Supergirl, killing off Hal Jordan after branding him a racist, Clayface, and Gorilla Grodd instead?yeah, gee, I wonder what went wrong
>>224253337>aquaman flash>"heavy hitters"
>>224253374they still did better anon, and it may be a choice between the lesser of two weevils or it may be not. who knows, latchman is the new tardwrangler in chief so the plan may be to bring back snyder, exclude his wife and manage his shit tightly. as obviously happened at marvel throughout most of it's line up and i'm guessing that latchman was a big part of that and that's why he was brought back into hollywood.
>>224253412>>we want Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman>>we want>>we
>>224253460aquaman is the most successful of the dc movies i think. maybe the first wonder woman?
>>224253483>so the plan may be to bring back snyder,Yeah I am pretty Ellisons are eager to hire a guy who made political ads for Biden.
>>224253505>aquaman is the most successful of the dc movies i thinkYeah. Because it's tried to avoid association with source material as much as possible, including raceswaping.
>>224253395You don’t have an argument so you keep bringing up James Gunn. I don’t give a fuck about him, defend Snyder’s work using facts if you can (you can’t)
>>224253491"we" as in the general public. How can you be so obtuse? Is it deliberate?
>>224253395Gunn inherited a DC ruined by Sneeder’s incompetence at the height of superhero fatigue. Sneeder got DC at the height of superhero mania and had Nolan backing him up post TDK trilogy. Sneeder was a retarded Jeet who couldn’t win with an unbeatable hand
>>224253395> Gunn's films couldn't compete with contemporary Marvel
>>224253534>"we" as in the general public.General public doesn't give a shit about DC characters except of Batman.Nobody wants to watch another episode of Kents farm or Lesbian Isle.
>>224253395>2014, Guardians of the Galaxy outgrosses Man of Steel>2017, Guardians 2 beats Wonder Woman and JUSTice League>2023, Guardians 3 beats all 4 DC movies combined (Aquaman 2, Shazamwow 2, Blue Beetle, The Flash)What went wrong is he got into the Humdrumvee.
>>224253508you mean snyder is exactly like most people in hollywood? where david ellison has been working for the last 20 years my guy? i doubt he gives a flying fuck about snyder's politics when there is 6 billy in interest to service every year. And do you think the wall to wall jews that make up skydance management voted straight red in the last, or any, election? the real world isn't reddit or /pol/, especially when money is involved.
>>224253395Superman beat every single Marvel movie that year you retard. Meanwhile Snyder couldn’t beat Civil War with BvS
>>224253524so you're agreeing that it was successful, cool.
>>224253605Not a single Snyder-directed movie grossed a billion dollars. Not one. Ever. Nor is it ever GOING to happen.The DC brand is so tainted by the last 15 years that Joker might legitimately be the last billion dollar DC movie.
>>224253605>i doubt he gives a flying fuck about snyder's politicsLMAOOkay, if he doesn't give a fuck about politics, why would he hire a guy who already killed DC cinematic franchise once?Also, it's not just politics, it's family business.
>>224253623Not a single Snyderverse movie ever finished as the top Cape movie of that year. Generally they came in 3rd or lower.
>>224253568>What went wrong is he got into the Humdrumvee.what went wrong is what went wrong with the russo brothers and taika waititi. it's pretty obvious that they were scaffolded by marvel studio infrastructure into those movies being successful, and it looks like the guy with a large hand in that is now head of dc. it's like pottery, it chimes.
>>224252550Go Woke Go Broke keep it Straight Christian and Wholesome
>>224253626>so you're agreeing that it was successful,I mean, yeah, it made billion plus, of course it was successeful.And it was a fucking Aquaman movie, character who was mocked for several decades by literally everybody for being D-lister.
>>224253605Haha your hack gay obsession can’t even get a distributor for his latest piece of shit movie. All his shit got canceled from Netflix.
>>224253670> Go Woke Go BrokeHow much did The Odyssey make again chuddy?
gunntards=snyderjeets
>>224253671Reminder that Aquaman finished 4th among cape films that year.
>>224253646>why would he hire a guy who already killed DC cinematic franchise once?well that's the thing, why would he? i haven't said he'd do it one way or the other if you'd actually read my posts instead of replying to the ghosts in your head, i'm speculating as to what might happen. snyder might be brought back and tardwrangled by a seasoned tardwrangler. i'd be interested to see what he does without his wife producing him but i'm not paying for it so who cares. it might be something that would appease the creditors and a section of the dc fanbase. none of it might happen at all. >Also, it's not just politics, it's family business.oh so you agree with me that ellison does business in hollywood with hollywood people and has done so his entire professional career? cool, what took you so long?
>>224252550>What went wrong?Honeslty? Wanting Marvel results without investing the time.
>>224253673>Haha your hack gay obsessionwho's that anon?
>>224253671that almost implies bring back wan or whatever his name was. wanbros where we at?
>>224253756It wasn't even a matter of time, Cap, Thor and Iron Man (particularly) were better cast than anything WB lined up. Margot Robbie was probably the best casting of the Snyder era, and they fucked that up by making the character Strong Womyn Who Needs No Joker.
Bottom line is DC only has one A list character Batman. Superman is not popular anymore. Wonder Woman and Aquaman were novelty acts and will nothave the same sauces as their first movies. The Flash is ruined after the Ezra disaster. What else is there? Keep hearing Gunn wasting his time with obscure characters. Ok, what charactersshould he have done? Reeves hadBatman. The Atom? Plastic Man? Hawk Man?
>>224252810Making movies about DC characters instead of (arbitrary self insert oc)
>>224253794>Bottom line is DC only has one A list character Joker.The Batman was a grotesque underperformance, because you need a great villain (or two) to sell Batman.The Batman's box office is the result when you do NOT.
>>224253834I agree with that. And now The Joker is ruined because the WB allows Todd Phillips to ass rape him
>>224253795>Making movies about DC charactersEwww
>>224253790feige started planning the avengers shared universe in 2005. iron man was 2008 iirc.
>>224253623Man of steel made more money than Superman and Superman couldn't compete with Brand New Day"Projected expectations" refered to competing with contemporary marvelYou promose to off yourself if Man of Tommorow cant beat Brand New Day or Doomsday?>>224253568You stilö dont get it, asshole, not being able to compete with contemporary Marvel was YOUR argument and now Gunn's Superman is no way near Brand New Day and Man of Tommorow will neither be no way near Brand New Day or even Doomsday
>>224252550They hired a liberal pedophile with a cuckold fetish to run the studio.
>>224252550Woke industry. It's not Gunn's fault.Supergirl was imposed to him as the retarded script too.He was just the scapegoat since day 1.
>>224253851He might still come back. Joker's heaviest lift was taking the excrement that was Suicide Squad north of $700 million. That film deserved Black Adam money tops, it's completely butchered rubbish.But Joker marketing filled seats and gave it a stellar open weekend. Not even a great Joker, but a Joker nonetheless.
>>224253873Superman beat all 3 MCU movies that year>Spider-ManSpider-Man is untouchable at this point. He makes Nolanbats look unpopular. DC will never have a movie touch the MCU Spider-Man.
>>224253684Apparently not enough to fund all these woke shit
>>224252550Don't know because I'm not a nerd
>>224253794>Superman is not popular anymore.you mean that gunn had all that money but lacked the talent to reintroduce superman to the culture? maybe he shouldn't be in charge then. and no, that doesn't mean that snyder should be. superman and gunn were probably gassed up to make the wb sale. this may well be true. but that doesn't mean skydance still shouldn't fire him and shut down the less than profitable dc lines he's running. because as studio chief he's still responsible for supergirl and clayface as well. that comes with being the boss. and mot is sounding pretty bad.
>>224253919ironic in the dc vs. marvel debate it's fucking sony with someone else's ip that's doing the murder.
>>224253957Superman in the history of movies has never compared to Peak Spidey. Nor will it ever happen, under anyone's direction. At the lowest point of Spidey Batman was comparable.
>>224252550Ellison will fix it
>>224253957Disney literally saved Sony Spider-Man from the debacle of ASM "trilogy". Because that was going nowhere happy.
>>224252810People actually watch them
the financial success of Snyder's movies fooled them into keep going
>>224253948You are a dumb jeet. Most people do not give a fuck about ever seeing a Superman movie. To them, Spider Man is superior to Superman in every way and that is who they will see. Nothing DC or anyone can do about it. The mostpopular Superman anything in the last 40 years was a TV show that turned Clark Kent into Peter Parker
>>224252894>power girlwho? she has the same powers as captain marvel or is she some kind of mutant?
>>224254103go to bed jason. your wife will be back with cena's sloppy seconds soon enough.
>>224254064By the time Snyder was let go, the entirety of the Justice League was only worth $600 million or so at the box office. No shit a new Superman movie had problems.
>>224254130She's Supergirl with larger boobs.That's literally the character.Occasionally the two characters are conflated.
If you genuinely don't see what a miserable failure Gunn was in that position and how he made a complete clown of himself to the point where he didn't even know what was canon and had to make a podcast debating it, made Superman's parents evil, made Hal Jordan hated by those in his universe for no good reason, and made horribly unprofitable films, then you no longer get to have your opinions taken seriously.Bioware failed on what it put out and now so has Gunn. Take the L and admit you were wrong about his universe.
>>224253374Hey retard the topic of conversation is what went wrong (financially) with dc studios?You are absolutely so fucking retarded because you seem to have missed that topic of conversation entirely. >but, but ,but z-zack's were were weren't making as as much much money as th-they could have...Retard, they were MAKING money.DC is no longer making money.Gunn's movies are not making money.The clarified topic of discussion is: What went so wrong that DC is no longer making money?You stupid fuck.
>>224252550
Has David Corenswet come out and said anything at all?
>>224254187I myself always claimed that Gunn was a bad fit for the Justice League characters, I was the one always saying his cast is always "Losers, Assholes, Doofuses", which remains the case.>made Superman's parents evilMan, Snyder beat him to Evil Dad by quite a while.
>>224254233actually fucking hilarious get morbed James Gunn you spastic cuck
>>224254233What's funny in this comparison is that Madame Web has over twice the budget of Clayface.It's Catwoman tier fail.
>>224254233You know the funny thing is that Morbius did actually turn a small profit.
>>224254246No lmao. And Gunn gave him shit on the podcast for fighting back on the speech scene. They probably don’t like each other.
>>224252550They kept making shitty movies
>>224254302he's probably just running as fast as he can. doesn't want to get a reputation for badmouthing studios this early in his career.
>>224253046Thanos' snap couldn't pull me out
>>224254317Really the only thing worse than their reboots are their sequels. GOD they are awful at follow up movies. TDK is basically the sole exception, and that's one man's effort alone.
>>224254328Like Cavill I think he sees an opportunity opening up in taking the character in a more comfortable direction with a different director. He probably agrees with a lot of the complaints like Superman getting beat up all the time.
>>224254281still crack's me up thinking about that random vulture scene implying they were going to team up to fight spider-manwhat was sony smoking with all those loose plot threads?
>>224252550Jim Gunn only works best as an outsider and contrarianas soon as he becomes the defacto boss, he loses half of his charm and he doesn't have broad appeal
>>224254064
Yeah that nigga is done
>>224252550For their next attempt I would unironically work Amell Green Arrow in there. Probably not as a standalone but at least as a prominant side character in someone else's movie. Since it'd a separate universe he brings NONE of his CW baggage
>>224254436...Moner and Wonder Woman lez out?
>>224254404seems that way. fine in his lane, doesn't work as studio boss.
>>224252550There were never DCU fans just Snyder haters. The gulf that is general audiences are standing ready for Snyder’s return.
>>224254007who?
>>224254646Ellison, you know, from Wonderland? Fucks sake anon, don't you know anything about the movie industry?
>>224254646David Ellison
