I don't get it.....How could audiences not connect with this version of Superman?
It felt insincere, like it was trying too hard to be positive and wholesome. I also disliked Luthor, who is too creepy and pathetic to be a fun villain.
Honestly, there was nothing wrong with David Corenswet. He played the part well and the personality was good. The suit was fine too.But the script was shit and the bunch of side characters in his own movie was horrible, the whole thing felt off, like weird made for tv movie.
>>224270857He's fucking ugly. It's the same situation as with Adam Driver, when they tried to push him as sex icon and someone attractive.
>>224270857You mean foreign audience. More specifically Asian audiences. The movie did great domestically.
>>224270857He looks like clavicular
Clav will be the next Superman. Screencap this
>>224270892Fag
>>224270879he looks like a goofy jewish kid. which he is. to give him credit though, he's refused to shit on the audience so he's alright by me.
>>224270914>>224270917supermaxxing
>>224270925But enough about you, jew.
the actor was fine as superman, total shit as kent, but even so the movie itself was ugly and felt cynically and clinically made despite its themes of 'wholesome hope'
at what point are people going to accept that superman just isn't an interesting character?
>>224270948I’m not the one taking about not finding a man attractive fag boy
Should’ve gotten an chink to play Superman
>>224270958Superman is interesting because of Clark Kent. The idea of a bumbling doofus who is secretly the strongest man on Earth is cool, but most movies ignore Clark in favor of Superman. I think Gunn's movie only has two scenes where we see Superman in his Clark Kent persona.
>>224271006No, Clark Kent identity is fucking retaded and makes him come off as a massive dick because he’s just gaslighting Lois tbe entire time. “Ree she only likes me as Superman but not Clark Kent which is actually a disguise.” Stan Lee reversed this bullshit with Peter Parker and why Spider Man is superior
>>224270857is that clavicular
>>224271060How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>>224271060How is it gaslighting to want to live a normal life? What's he supposed to do, sit in the Fortress of Solitude until there is a disaster for him to prevent?
>>224271006this nigga cool>>224271060this nigga gay
>>224271006Clark being a bumbling doofus is a thing from the Donner movie. Being mild mannered is not the same as being an awkward dork.The comics where Clark Kent behaves like that (All Star, Birthright, Geoff John's run, etc.) are all inspired by Superman: The Movie.
>>224270974>trump out of nowhereTDS is very real
>>224270963I don't care how you interpret this world and what you feel. Fuck off, vermin.
>>224270857Superman is obsolete, no version of him connects with viewers who aren't baby boomers.
>>224270857Forced fake Midwest shit, he's like a superhero version of Reba>AWW MAN WHAT THE HEY KRYPTO, NOT ON THE COUCHHe was raised on a farm, not in suburban Minnesota...
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>>224270857They put multiple scenes in the movie about him crying that no one likes him. Also he got mad that he's expected to follow the law which is something Superman would never do
>>224270876>trying too hard to be positive and wholesomeWhile also suggesting that you should just go ahead and murder your political opponents.
>>224271566That’s how midwesterners talk dumbass. Gunn used recordings of comedian Richard Christy‘s parents who were from rural Kansas for the actors that played the Kents. They always made the Kents sound like they were from Texas or the south
>>224270876Yeah that's the problem with the whole film. It keeps telling you that it's positive and wholesome, but it feels very cynical. Superman felt like a petulant child that smiled alot, not a symbol of hope.
>>224270879bruh cmon he sucks just look at himsuperman is supposed to be a chad and this guy aint a chad
>>224270857snyder chads wongunnsissies lost
>>224271373based
>>224271636yeah they sound like retards which is why they aren't ever portrayed accurately in film
Superman is the kind of guy to randomly thank a cop for keeping people safeSomething is seriously wrong when intersectional lesbians and libs are praising Superman. He's baseball, he's apple pie, he's the star spangled banner, not some faggot with a dog and a lush cousin and some weird arc about international politics and jews and shit.Superman is so red white and blue American that a famous alt Superman is Russian Superman.....
>>224271677BASED AND CHECKED
>>224271652This isn't reddit cockhead, you don't need to try and upvote dumb shit you agree with
>>224271677Funny you say that considering Gunn’s Superman was carried almost entirely by domestic and overseas bombed
>>224271697i do it anyway sorry
>>224271704overseas audiences dont want woke superman
>>224271697upvoted
>>224270857He's part of a visually ugly universe. Performative kindness masking the spiteful- and mean-spiritedness of the creatives. I liked what came before much more. Even the CW shows were much more enjoyable than this. We unironically need to go back.
>>224271704By gay libs who tried to #hopepill gay superman into the canon.Mind you im not saying Superman is a hardcore right winger, but he's an ultra patriot who loves his country in a real way, not in some faggy "what it could be" kind of way, but in a present and true way.
>>224271733exactly its not sincereits a movie for sociopaths
Coronswets resting bitch face communicates that Superman tolerates people, he doesnt actually love them.
>>224271006>The idea of a bumbling doofus who is secretly the strongest man on Earth is coolNope it's not.>but most movies ignore Clark in favor of Superman.Because there is literally no story to tell about Clark Kent which can resonate with viewer.
>>224271744>but he's an ultra patriot who loves his country in a real way,That bwould be a Homelander
>>224271744>he's an ultra patriot who loves his country in a real waythat automatically makes him racist maga-loving chudpilled republicant NAZI
>>224271776>Nope it's not. Yes, it is.
>>224271794To Gunn absolutely, which is why he's the former, a gay lib who loves America "for what it can be" a snide bitch who saunters off as soup cans get hucked at his head, and cries when he doesn't agree with "sigh.....le system"
>>224271776> Because there is literally no story to tell about Clark Kent which can resonate with viewer.There is when you turn him into Peter Parker. You get a popular 9 seasons series of just Clark Kent
>>224271776Christopher Reeves did more with Clark Kent carrying a stack of paper than Coronswet did the entire movie
>>224271839His Woody Allen Clark Kent was pure camp and ridiculous.
>>224271839>Christopher Reeves> $300,478,449 > $216,385,706 > $80,250,623 > $30,281,020 Yeah surely it worked.
>>224271828>There is when you turn him into Peter Parker.So straight opposite to "le accurate" Clark Kent.
>>224271878He's the face of Clark Kent and Superman in nearly everyone's mind's eye
>>224271878Adjust that for inflation, little chuddy
>>224271878With the exception of Superman1 and 2, Superman has always done mediocre to bad at the box office. He more suited on TV where he’s had more long lasting succeeding. 50s TV series was a success. Lois and Clark was a success. Smallville was a success. Even Superman and Lois was a minor success
>>224271878Where do you reckon Gunnerman ranks, lmaohttps://screenrant.com/superman-movies-ranked-by-box-office-inflation/
>>224271933>With the exception of Superman1 and 2, Superman has always done mediocre to bad at the box office.Which means character is not popular as you like to think.
>>224271828>There is when you turn him into Peter Parker.you mean superboy, fucking idiot.
Write Superman like a strict parent. He should always be the biggest authority figure in the room. He needs presence. He should talk down to his villains and be a bro to his friends. No awkwardness. No anti-social behavior.
>>224271697Downvoting to hide this post. Embarrassing shit.
>>224270857he was great
>>224272020Dude, just give up and let Superman go into public domain.
He was good. If you like Snyder, you're brown.
>>224272148no and no
>>224270857Good morning sir.
>>224272121What's the point? We've already seen what that will produce with shit like Homelander and Brightburn.
>>224271704That's great, but he's appealing to the wrong Americans now.
>>224272121first appearance goes public domain in 2033
>>224272174>shit like HomelanderAnd that's something which works, unlike Superman.
>>224270857He wasn't as funny or cool or relatable as Venom
>>224271959Nope. Peter Parker.
>>224272020>And many more of us Luthor prefer not to live like dogs at allQuite with that radical left propaganda
>>224270857>How could audiences not connect with this version of Superman?Because they remember this version of Superman.
>>224272471One that dropped 69% its second weekend? One where him with Batman couldn’t even make a billion at peek capeslop?
Lots of "people" who don't know how they'd feel if they didn't have breakfast this morning ITT
>>224272521still outgrossed the entire gunnverse solo kek
>>224272564Yet got spanked the following year by a movie with a talking raccoon kek
>>224272590guardians did not outgross bvs, retard. yeah it beat josstice league because that piece of shit had horrible reshoots which botched the whole fucking thing.
>>224270857Everything in the GunnVerse is just a worse version of the SnyderVerseThe same people that told Snyder fans to "move on" are already preparing a #RestoretheGunnVerse movementlmao
>>224272521>One that dropped 69% its second weekend?Cope harder little man.
>>224272880lol, that hair curl makes him look even more like a jew
>>224272766I was talking about MOS. But if you want to talk about BvS that got spanked by Captain Marvel. DC’s three biggest characters in a move for the fist time getting destroyed by fucking Captain Marvel haha
>>224273219ah yes the movie where disney inflated the box office by buying tickets for empty theaters because they knew nobody wanted to see that shitbvs at least earned its box office legitimately
Gunn is to much of a transgressive faggot to make a character like Superman work. He does all this tryhard shit to make him seem like a good guy, but still constantly undermines it with shit like that stupid superdog violently attacking people. Superman can't both be a good guy and have a dog that behaves like that at the same time. But Gunn is too much of a moral degenreate to realize that, so he doesn't understand that he's contradicting his own ostensible characterization. Same with Super walking into Lex' office and smashing his desk, etc., which is telling the audience that Superman doesn't *actually* have any kind of self-control; his temperament just happens to naturally align with his role. So he's the generic "one bad day" away from going full-psycho version of Superman that we now have like half a dozen other versions of already.Genuinely depressing to see people acting like the Superman in Gunn's movie was a good guy. Such staggering psychological retardation on display. Literal fucking retards.
>>224270876>>224270857Because there is zero reason for Lex Luthor to survive after pulling all that shit. None. Superman ought to murk his ass for that shit. Immediately. The fact that he doesn't puts a highlight on some of the dumbest tropes of comic books.
>>224270958Everyone knows it except comic retards
>>224273266You don’t understand bro. The needle drops were epic.
>>224270958Superman has like 20 expies. He is still basically the face of this entire genre of media. He is interesting, just very difficult to pull off because people have very high standards when it comes to Superman. Everyone has some idea of what Superman needs to be like and spergs out if you stray too far, probably why it's easier to just take Superman's template and make another expy.
>>224270876its a tasteless movie. Zero class. Vulgar inappropriate language and humour that doesn’t belong in a Superman movie thats aimed at children where he has a cartoon dog who flies around and wears a cape. Shockingly bad cinematography, ugly cgi, bad fight choreography. Lex seems overly nasty and cruel, remember he was supposed to have a scene of him beating the dog and the studio cut it. Just a very unpleasant movie from start to finish
>>224271959It is so amusing when comic book fans go nuts on each other for so little reason. It is hard not to picture you as some fat cheeto handed super incel.
>>224270857Yeah, why wouldn't people want to be an insecure simp?
>>224273697Grandma?
>>224270857I thought he did a good job. I liked Cavill more, but that's done and gone and not coming back. The next Superman movie just need him to have some badass moments and less him depending on everyone else.
>>224270857The only people that are ecstatic about it are the people that thoroughly hated Snyder/Cavill. To the normal average eye the movie was simply unimpressive, both the visuals and the plot. Presentation matters more than anything, just look at the Man of Steel trailers for comparison.As far as the writing goes Gunn, like Tom King, is a haunted individual and it’s basically impossible for him to write a sincere superhero story. He had to have evil parentage, raunchy jokes, and an animal. It’s his calling card and a stale one at that.Corenswet himself is fine. I respect him for trying to stand up to Gunn’s bullshit. It’s a shame Superman gets sidelined and humiliated in his own movie. I’m expecting MoT to double down on all the bad stuff. Hopefully Superman 3 will have a different director, if there is one.
>>224273430I hope Gunn's failure takes this stupid fad down for good. Let it be looked back upon with the same disdain as all those "well that just happened" tropes.
>>224271578tarantino is a retard, his opinions on tipping excepted. clark is not some disguise, he's superman's emotional and moral core. he's the proof that a super-powered alien can be human, because of how he was raised.
>>224273725incel yescheetos noi eat the tortilla chips from costco because i'm a man of taste
> This is that solar powered superhuman I was telling you about.
>>224274062kek
>>224273889it's a poor man's tarantino flick>>224273898what if i told you that both you and quentin are correct, superman's humanity is a critique of the human race via diguise and also his emotional and moral core
>>224270857I liked it when he threw a tantrum like woman!
>>224271605Seems like typical wholesome smolbeanchungus leftwinger behavior. A post about somebody needing to be a decent human being, followed by a post lusting after somebody who murdered their political opponent, then a twee pastel colored drawing of their kawaii uguu fursona drinking sòymilk accompanied by a post telling you to donate to the artist because they're about to be evicted unless they can come up with that $36, a post celebrating the murder of another political opponent, a photo of their bloated hand with painted nails petting their cat, and so on. They really do not see the discrepancy.
>>224271605Foreign dictators are not political opponents.Sorry no diesel for you migger.
Audiences don't connect with Superman.
>>224274087>you're both correctAnon is correct, Tarantino is only partially correct. Superman isn't an asshole reflecting how incompetent and clumsy society is because "That's what he thinks we are, MAN" Clark is particularly clumsy and inept, and a dullard because he's aware it throws the average person off his scent. Tarantinos presentation is meant spirited and ugly, but Clark/Kal el/Superman loves humans and loves earth, even the ones that mistreat him, even the ones that go out of their way to outdo Clark, even the ones who refuse to be saved. Further, if you really wanna play the "The human form is the mask, the supersuit is the genuine article" you can say this about literally any superhero. Batman isn't an act, Flash isn't an act, Wonder Woman isn't an act, so on and so forth
>>224274774No one considers Bill is saying this in the movie, because he's a social chameleon, and that's how he treats people.
>>224270876the squirrel part was pure redditbait
>>224270857Lex Luther was mid so was this guy. Both bane and joker in Christopher Nolan Batman are kino. And then his trashy cousin super girl coming in the last 5 minutes to sell more tickets suppppeeeerrr lame
>>224274783That's fair, but going out of the way to say "Tarantino has Superman pinned" is indeed incorrect
>>224270914I would support this but only if he is on an appropriate amount of steroids
>>224270857I like the actor, he did an admirable job, and appealed to young and old alike, what no one like about Gunn's Superman was his neurotic need to comment on Israel and Palestine. It had no place in the movie and I'm glad Gunn was fired.
>>224270914what's scary is it's not a coincidence bro
>>224274807Superman, like Jesus, reminds the Jews of today of the kind of man they're supposed to be. And, like Jesus, they still hate him relentlessly.
>>224275044>what no one like about Gunn's Superman was his neurotic need to comment on Israel and Palestine.>no one
>>224270857I think he SUCKS
