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Why is there so much art with Kira and Bocchi as well as Ryo? I mean she initially said she liked Ryo(but in a lesbian way?) then she had the most interactions with Bocchi?
>>4388657Because a lot of people haven't read the manga
Bokita the greatest, papá!
>>4388657>KiraDoes that mean that Bocchi is L?
>>4388657People like to ship the whole band together
>>4388691is the manga BoKita or RyoKita?
>>4396148She's book dumb, so no.
>>4396284If anything it's Nijiryo, so Bokita sort of wins out by association.
Are sisters allowed to do this?
Who's currently ahead in the bocchibowl?
>>4409999Yoyoko
>>4409999There's been zero romantic development with any character so nobody.
>>44099991. That new baseball gyaru who just got introduced2. Ame3. Seika4. Sasasa5. KitaYoyoko is currently out of the running because she's trying to fuck Nijika. Hiroi is currently out of the running because Bocchi's mom is trying to fuck her. Nijika and Ryo are continuing their happy married life.
>>4409999Katou-san from WataMote
>>4388657bokita is cute and there doesn't need to be a deeper reason, really
>>4419792She's a better wife for Bocchi than that kita whore. I always admire young mature girl and useless adult woman pairings. Both Bocchi and Kikuri are helplessly introvert, but Bocchi is the more mature one of the two, she doesn't need alcohol to cope with the pain. Sextroverts like kita could never understand.
>>4419903Am I missing something from the manga? Kikuri seems more extroverted than anything.
>>4421938>Kikuri seems more extroverted than anything.she can't face the world without being inebriated
>>4421938Kikuri basically has Bocchi's personality when she's sober. She became an alcoholic because her anxiety and stage fright were so crippling
this thread is suffering from a massive lack of boryo
Is big tits x flat loli the best pairing in all of yuri?
>>4436582No, that would be big tits x big tits.
>>4436604Hiroi...
>>4436582It's a girl with the biggest tits being worshipped as a goddess like she deserves.
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>>4442205Did you make a mistake?
>>4449032
I already caught up with the anime and the manga. Which band anime scratch the same itch? Is GBC or Bang Dream a good replacement?
>>4449425A lot of Bocchi fans liked them, but they're more dramatic than Bocchi if you're just looking for a comedy.
>>4449453Thanks, I don't mind drama as long as there are enough slice of life moments.
BtR anime writer talks about how BtR's adaptation was deliberately desexualized compared to the manga.https://kai-you.net/article/93374/page/2Do /u/ think it was degayed too?
>>4472107They know that yuri in CGDCT brings in bux, they wouldn't change that.
>>4472107Now we know why its taking so long to make season two. Kirara and Hamazi cannot be happy about this.
>>4472107But if they're wokifying it, then they would make it more gay
>>4472450No they wouldn't; what hetfags who want to feel oppressed like to say say, about how "sexualization is ok if it's gay" or whatever, is bullshit and you know it. An overwhelming number of women who make yuri are some level of "problematic" and would be hurt by these puritanical ideas.
>>4472440Nothing immediately noticeable will happen; authors rarely rock the boat (they'll even defend hoarders of real-world child porn to maintain a healthy, industry-friendly image) - especially if they feel "indebted" to an adaptation that made them tons of money. But the backlash was large enough that it'll have a silent impact with regards to realizing that audiences don't like puritanical rhetoric.
>>4472450>>4472452The gayer scenes in the manga, like Bocchi fantasizing about being popular with girls and applying for the school talent show because a girl said she'd fall for anyone who's playing in a rock band, were all gone from the anime. The scriptwriter really did say she wanted to get rid of all sexualization of the characters, which is funny because she previously wrote for Tiger & Bunny, the fujo show.I actually love BtR anime for exploring the characters emotions and relationships more intimately than the manga ever did. However at the same time, she removed everything that made the characters explicitly lesbian because it's too titillating. And that sucks.
>>4472794If you view eroticism from that perspective you'll inevitably end up dismissing a lot of non-hetero women's tastes, which is ironic since Yoshida talks about how "majorities hurt minorities" (is Hamazi's taste the "majority taste" for women?) At most you can operate around a stereotype of "female eroticism that appeals only to women" which is an over-generalization both ways (ex. I've come across plenty of men who like butch yuri "for women, that scares off men" and women who like cutesy moe yuri "for men, that scares off women" in my long history of posting yuri everywhere)
>>4472797Just cause you can find some counter examples doesn't deny the general trend. It's like how a lot of women are in fujo spaces because it's women dominated and they can be more open about sexuality without 1000s of men sliding into their DMs.
>>4472800Not sure how cutesy moe vs butch art is comparable to yaoi. Female yuri fans who like the former are not that rare.
>>4472797>which is ironic since Yoshida talks about how "majorities hurt minorities" (is Hamazi's taste the "majority taste" for women?) Yoshida's an early millennial born in the 80s. She spent her youth surrounded with media that very much appealed to straight male tastes more than women and LGBT men. I guess she's not aware modern anime fans are more respectful to diverse themes and non-majority people can express themselves much more freely without being looked down upon these days. That's a gap I noticed between older and younger female weebs.>I've come across plenty of men who like butch yuri "for women, that scares off men" and women who like cutesy moe yuri "for men, that scares off women" in my long history of posting yuri everywherePublic d*scord servers have made people more comfortable with expressing themselves and embracing their preferences. Finding likeminded people has become easier than ever. Yoshida grew up when the world was nothing like this unfortunately. >>4472800>It's like how a lot of women are in fujo spaces because it's women dominatedI'm pretty sure they're in fujo spaces because they're into men one way or another. I know more lesbian/bi yuri fans who don't really care much about yaoi than those who do. >1000s of men sliding into their DMsWhat kind of shithole is that? I think most fandom communities nowadays are pretty kind. Tw*tter doesn't count.
>>4472457They delay is right there- Bocchi the Anime, as is, made a lot of money. They may have hurt the authors feelings with the censorship, but is it the best thing for the author to come out and jump on the director for doing this? Especially in a Japanese cultural context. But it can show up as the Kirara side of the production not exactly rushing to the door to resume working with these people.The classic case of this is Kiyohiko Azuma, who has NEVER said anything bad about the Azumanga Daioh anime yet clearly disliked the editing choices so much that he has flatly turned down all offers to animate Yotsuba& even though Yotsuba could have been as big as Doremon or Crayon Shin-chan. And the Azudai anime was, and still is, a very high selling anime. A big point of difference between the Azudai case and the current Bocchi matter is that Azuma's problems with the Azudai adaptation were purely artistic. With this Bocchi case, its not art but cultural politics, something outside art, that is projecting into the scene. Politics that don't even originate in Japan.
Sakuya Amano, author of Konohana Kitan, came out today on X and related her experience being censored during the making of that anime.https://x.com/amanosakuya/status/1967978017680134437
>>4472801Cute shit is cute and I deeply resent whatever nth wave of feminism or queer theory that decided that I have to reject that to be a flaming homosexual woman. There’s enough layers in my personality to appreciate all yuri equally.
>>4472898I didn't say fujoshi are not into men. I was just giving an example of a community that excludes men through not appealing to them. And it is a safe space for many women. Just like how certain types of yuri appeals more to women coded sexuality and therefor is generally a safer space for women. >>4472968No queer of feminist theory tells you that. Go read the actual books instead of absorbing it second-hand through people who dislike it.
>>4472898>I know more lesbian/bi yuri fans who don't really care much about yaoi than those who do.I know plenty who like both myself.>>4472974What is this yuri that so assuredly alienates men? I brought up butch characters because it's the closest thing I can think of, but even in that case, a lot of men online enjoy basically everything and quite a lot of yuri enjoyed hugely by women features exceptionally feminine characters all around. Well, the actual best example of something mainly women are drawn to would be stuff made by authors who found their fame through yaoi and features explicitly yaoi-like dynamics, but my attempts to promote "fujoshi yuri" on here have mostly fallen on deaf ears.The idea that the majority of queer feminist theory adherents would overwhelmingly support the kind of women who contribute to "Onee-Loli Yuri Anthology", or even the moe teenager "sexualization" of the Bocchi manga, is silly. Japanese liberal feminist Yukari Fujimoto even pointed out on her Twitter that it's very rare to find a western academic willing to accept such works (either in general or with regards to its appeal in LGBT Japanese nerd spaces) and was glad to finally find someone like-minded.>>4472956>Politics that don't even originate in Japan.Certain people are going to claim this is wrong, but Yoshida straight up admits to being very ideologically inspired by America. But yeah, while Japan as an overall culture might be a different thing, the manga industry is immensely better than the American comics industry at supporting a very wide variety of female authors and fans. Anime is more male-driven on the staff side, but it still knows very well to appeal to women. They don't really need to "learn from America" how to appeal to women more.
>>4473029Just cause something is enjoyed by some men doesn't mean it hasn't got a different vibe and community than things explicitly targeted to men. Romance focused yuri that's almost or completely non-sexually will have less male fans, less misogyny and less of the type of predatory men who you'll find in the general anime community.See the difference between something like Maria-sama vs Netsuzou Trap.Of course it won't alienate men the same way that yaoi does but pretending there's not a divide is a bit dishonest. And it's also not only about sex, it's also the art style, framing, more focus on women's day to day issues, deeper/less objectified female characters etc.
>>4473071So you don't even mean what I assumed but "no predators is when no eroticism" (as if "I'm wholesome" is not a common predator tactic). Netsuzou is mostly a dude thing in Japan but has many female fans in the west, 7menzippo's super graphic yuri porn manga is mostly liked by women (again "fujoshi yuri"), "purity" attracts another type of creepy guy.
>>4472107Well I read the manga and watched the anime, so I know that the anime is gayer than the manga. The fanservice that was taken out had nothing to do with yuri, but I guess they might get rid of the "Kita and Nijika get annoyed at Bocchi's giant tits" scene in season 3
>>4473181I don't remember this in the anime.
Bocchi is staying at Nijika's house>Nijika-chan, you got a lot of plushies on your bed huh>Ah, to be honest, I can't really sleep well without my plushies, just like my sis>(It's kind of embarrassing to say)>Is that so...>I see... since Nijika's mom passed away when she was little...>...Maybe she was trying to cope with the loneliness using those plushies...>Alright...>Emm...! Nijika-chan, I'll be your plushie for today!!>Eh, are you sure...?
>The hugging was way more intense than she thought
