Last thread >>4470173 Thread for yuri discussion of:>Genshin Impact>Honkai Impact 3rd>Honkai Star Rail>Guns GirlZ>Zenless Zone Zeroand other applicable miHoYo/Hoyoverse games
>>4480560The last thread barely hit page 10. Do you need to make a new thread for this garbage so quickly? It's not like it's a fast thread on a fast board.
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You know the latest Star Rail planet is shit when the most popular ships to come from them were all het or yaoi. People said Stelle x March would get a resurgence when Stelle x Dan Heng blowup thanks to this planet. I can't wait until we leave Amphoreus. This planet fucking sucks
>>4480573I still haven’t finished 3.2 main story
>>4480573I agree that this planet does suck, but looking at the story right now we should be nearing the end of this current planets story. I also started to not skip story when evernight was in it because it got interesting so I think I’ll stick around and actually listen to the story :)
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Paimon is a shipper
>>4480573>waifufag game with no actual yuri panders to het pairingsGee, what a surprise!
>>4480573>thinks Edo Star won't be het as fuck >inb4 Yae
>>4480626I have no idea what Edo Star is. Sorry I don't look at leaks like you because I have a life
>>4480592Meowdy!
>>4480678>leaksWe've known about Edo Star for almost a year already, you secondary faggot
>>4480693Sorry I don't spend my life around this game like you do. Get a life bitch. Fucking loser
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>>4480773>Sorry, I don't play the game. At all. Alrighty, noted. Now stop malding and post yuri, faggot.
>>4480795Fucking retard can't read
Amphoreus has to be some of the worst writing I've ever seen in a gacha game. It had so much potential but its all over the place. It has repetitive storytelling, annoying puzzles, and has to be the strangest story on how it uses Stelle. Its like it wants her to be important but not at the same time. Its treated like a passenger along for the ride yet also the most important character. The story wants us to believe she's formed a deep bond with any of the characters once they die yet never once actually developed the relationships enough for us to care about them. Compare this to Genshin and how the game actually tries to form bonds between Lumine and the characters of each region before shit starts happening. Genshin's writing isn't spectacular but it does a better job at making the player believe there's an actual friendship forming between the characters and the MC. I think the biggest difference is that the characters tell Lumine their backstory while in HSR the characters tell the player their backstory. Aventurine and Acheron are good examples of this. Stelle has this heartfelt goodbye with Acheron yet she learns next to nothing about her because what little of her story was told was given to the player not Stelle herself. What makes all this even worse is the fact that HSR used to be good at that. In Belobog we got to learn about Hook with Stelle by Hook and the people close to her. The same with Bronya and Serval. I can get wanting other characters to shine but if you're not gonna have Stelle be the main character don't have her be THE main character in a story. She does nothing in Penacony that relates to Sunday so why is she the one taking him down. She does next to nothing for a large part of Amphoreus so why even have her around? Most of the Amphoreus stories have long ass flashbacks that don't even involve her half the time. Its like Stelle is just there as a reason for the story to be told rather than an actual part of the story.
>>4480818Sorry for the ranting. Here's some yuri
>>4480818I know right? It's absolutely apalling that Shaoji is absolutely going to keep his job after this shitshow
>>4480818The Acheron segments in Penacony were so random, they could have at least used Black Swan to tie in to the flashbacks. The Lament of the Fallen reference and the goodbye scene were utter irredemable bullshit though. We met this woman 5 minutes ago, but the game acts like we are the bestest of friends.
>>4480839I fucking hated that it ruined so much meaning behind the orginal scene.
>>4480839That's how I feel about the whole Amphoreus cast. Phainon gives this whole farewell speech to Stelle yet nothing makes me feel like they are that close for him to call her partner. In 1 patch ZZZ developed Belle and Vivian better than all of Amphoreus did with Stelle and anyone. I like that we get more info on these characters but if the story wants to treat Stelle as the main hero shouldn't she be the one seeing things? Otherwise it all feels pointless. For example how did Cipher and Aglaea's backstory tie into anything regarding Stelle? Would removing it really change much? HSR forgot if you're gonna give a character development away from the MC the MC has to become aware of said development throughout the story or just not be apart of said story. The way HSR writes the story on Amphoreus makes me feel like each patch is just a glorified commercial for the banner character. They hyped up Phainon for patches as THE Amphoreus character just for him to fuck off after his banner in favor of Hysilens and Cerydra.
nobody post eve's birthday date with astra </3
>>4480839>Lament of the Fallen referenceHuhWhen was the LoTF reference in Penacony again?
sex
>>4480839Acheron has nothing on Sunday. I don't think Stelle has had more than 1 conversation with him
>>4480975Sex indeed
>>4480818Come home
>>4480972NTA but I think it was Acheron catching Stelle after she fell or something like that. I don't remember the specific scene but I do remember the posts on social media drawing comparisons between the 2 moments
>>4480818>this game without yuri has bad writing without yuriGee, what a surprise!>this other game without yuri actually has great writing because I don't care about yuriGee, no surprise for a Hoyofag.
>>4481291>reads what they want out of a legit complaintGee, no surprise from someone who clearly hates Hoyo games. I don't get why haters come here just to bash the games and the community. Is your life that pathetic?
>>4480818The game writing became a joke already hahahahahahahhahah
>>4481462How long did we even know this guy? Why does Star Rail believe 10 minutes of interactions means Stelle and these characters are great friends. Acheron, Sparkle, Aventurine, Rappa, and all of Amphoreus treat Stelle like she's so dear to them yet none of them could probably name one thing about her. At least the game wrote a bullshit excuse that Firefly already knew Stelle before Penacony to explain the rushed development. 30+ hours of story but none of it given to these supposed friends actually being Stelle's friends
Well they pretty much killed the yuri with Stelle. They seem to be going all in with the Stelle x Dan Heng stuff
>>4481468They're never doing that. Stelle is also Caelus and if there's one thing that threatens incela more than Yuri it's fujoshit
>>4481468Stelle and Dan heng have never had that kind of relationship in game at all so far so i don't know why it would change. You spend far more time with March as far as the main crew goes as well
>>4481525I see what they mean. A lot of the Amphoreus trailers lately have had Stelle and Dan Heng together. Even the supposed March patch focused more on those two. Stelle has been around Dan Heng a lot in Amphoreus trailers. So much so that its almost doubled March and Stelle,which was Stelle's biggest ship at one point, in fanfics and fanart.I am starting to notice a big increase of people shipping Stelle with men on Amphoreus. Are her ships with the women on this planet that bad? Even Cyrene and Aglaea's biggest ships are with Phainon and Anaxa. And Castorice is paired heavily with Mydei. I think Hysilens and Cerydra are the only two from Amphoreus that has a bigger yuri presence than het. Maybe its because not too many players care for many of the new characters or maybe there's just been an influx of het shippers lately.
>>4481560Can you stop caring so much about what hetfags who don't even read the story do? They'll move on to the next slop soon as 4.0 hits. As far as Stelle goes, advertising pushed Castorice pretty hard at the time, but the execution fell pretty flat.
Just when I thought Genshin's obvious bias couldn't piss me off any more, they go and use the male avatar to demonstrate the new custom mode; why even give players the option to play as a girl if they're just gonna ignore that it exists?
>>4481561Who the fuck are you to tell others what to do? And if you're gonna try to at least post yuri as well to justify your point.
>>4481565Its ok. No one's gonna play that mode after a week anyway. >>4480921No one plays the game anymore. The revenue get worse and worse every month and none of the new content seems interesting. Its not going anywhere anytime soon but I can see it becoming similar to HI3 in terms of revenue. It just won't have the same level of love that HI3 has thanks to its long legacy.
>>4481560The game is doing all these Stellę trailers because they are setting it up for male protag with Cyrene trailer.>>4481565Yea I'm so gucking confused why even give us an option if gebshin team clearly dislikes female protag. I want to grab a genshin dev and asked them
>>4481604So its gonna be Firefly all over again
>>4481274I liked various yuri pairings in Genshin but I hadn't found my otp until them.
The only thing I care about at this point is that don't keep Cyrene/Elysia a brick for anyone else not named castorice or anaxa. Because I want to use her with my Aglaea goddamnit
>>4481785Amphoreus has been the Rememberance planet where everyone works with Castorice. Funnily enough I feel like Stelle works better with Evernight and vise versa than they both do with Castorice. Yeah they work well with her but Evernight's skill alone paired with Stelle can do 1mil dmg, and that's with her not fully built. I will laugh if Stelle isn't good with Cyrene. They usually make her work with the character they ship tease her with (Castorice/Firefly) so if they are useless together what would be the point of them pushing their bond so hard these last few patches.
>>4481842I am genuinely annoyed aglaea can't use most of the remembrance support because it either scales off HP or just half works with herI dont mind being able to still use robin, sunday and tribbie but it is genuine bullshit that dedicated remembrance support/shilling barely works with her at all. Im gonna be pissed if the cyrene buff gets nerfed or ignored and they decide to overbuff the castorice one because people were already seething about ananxa's being too strong
>>4481862While that's true, there's also the chance she will get a better support on 4.+ because they will stop releasing castorice supports.
>>4481842As of v1/2 RMC is BiS for main dps Cyrene
>>4481874Yeah that's fair, though I just can't wait until v3 happens so I have an idea. I love Elysia and her expy but if she's genuinely going to be dogshit for everyone else and a pure rice slave then idk how to feel but there's no point in worrying over silly stuff
>>4481862I remember seeing someone mention how HSR has become a game where there's no real meta. Every meta character has such a small number of teams they can work with nowadays making their use become so limiting. It really made me think about how I've used the same team with Kafka for so long now, only switching out Ruan Mei for Hysilens. Same with Firefly, Feixiao, and some others. And all you do is switch out one member of the team with a new unit to replace the previous dps or support character. No brand new team just trading out a member. Too many HSR characters are niche and only work with a specific team
>>4481875I'm honestly surprised how useful Stelle is for so many characters. Harmony Stelle was useless if not paired with Firefly
>>4481888More the other way around. Firefly was absolutely useless without her.HMC was also useful for Himeko, Xueyi, Rappa and a certain male.
>>4482025Firefly still has Ruan Mei. Let's be honest no one uses Himeko and less and less people are using Rappa. The only real use for Harmony TB is FF.
>>4482111>*barely anyone rolled rappaftfy
>>4481888wronghmc was very strongbefore the powercreep and everything obviously
>>4482200I never said she wasn't strong. I said she has limited use. Did you even read my comment before responding?
>v3 cyreneYeah, i think its over
>>4481886This is their whole monetization scheme now and Genshin is going all in on it too.
>>4482397Unrelated but a bunch of other gacha are doing it too, especially wuwa of all things kinda enforced mandated teams and stuff
>>4482111Try playing Firefly without HMC and come back. Also obviously no Fugue. No it won't work.Rappa CAN work (in pure fiction). She doesn't absolutely need to play super break, as most of her damage comes from many small enemies breaking. The guy can also work.Firefly doesn't. At all. She has no damage past breaking whatsoever unless you add a super-break buffer.>no one uses HimekoIt's not about now, it's about back when HMC released. Many used her, just like Xueyi. And those who have Rappa use her till today. I sure do.
>>4482654Why are you talking about Rappa? And again no one uses Himeko. Not sure why you're obsessing over the fact that Harmony Stelle isn't that useful without Firefly. The other characters have nothing to do with my point so I'm not sure why you brought them up and are still mentioning this days later
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I miss early Genshin ships....there was a certain.....earnestness to them, from the fans
>>4483085I'm not sure what you mean by this. People love Navia x Clorinde and Dehya x Dunyarzad/Candace. Back then it was Jean x Lisa or Ningguang x Beidou or nothing
So what's the general consensus on Vivian gameplay-wise? I already have Yuzuha+Alice and my Yanagi locked to Miyabi so I really need another Anomaly char. The next banner is for the tentacle lady and the 2.4 banners, so none of them interest me. I assume Ye Shunguang is 2.5+ so I'll probably be able to get her and Vivian and their weapons in time
>>4483097I dunno but I think Jean X Klee is a very kino ship
>>4483305She plays like shit and can be easily replaced with Caesar or Rat in Yuzuha Alice teams.Notably she's not bad. But she doesn't play well.
>>4483327>Caesar or JaneDamn, those are the two I don't care for getting. Guess I'll skip the rest and just wait for Ye Shunguang.
>>4483327What do you mean she doesn’t play well? You get full uptime on stacks just by parrying and her damage is top tier for the fieldtime she takes.>CaesarLol. At least say Nicole or something.>RatSure, but Vivian can be used in a far wider range of teams >>4483305Yuzuha Alice Vivian is my second favorite team to play (first is Miyabi Yuzuha Soukaku) and all 3 work perfectly with each other.Do consider that Dialyn likely is YSG’s BiS stunner so you might want to pull her too.
>>4483336Nicole isn't better than Caesar in this team, what you are smoking.And no, you don't get full uptime. Not even with Yuzuha m2. This isn't the problem either. The problem is that she PLAYS like shit. Her entire animations and attack combo etc is extremely bad.Also as far as leaks go Dialyn is not a normal stunner, but more akin to Seed but for stunners. Might still change, but it'd make sense. We have a fuckton of stunners by this point, and there's a need to change something.
>>4483337How are you not getting full uptime?? Between ex, parries, and ult you should always have stacks at hand.>clunkyAll you use are the above moves, each of which takes half a second with her divebomb following automatically off-field.>Nicole isn’t betterGot refs? Nicole is harder to play sure but Caesar just isn’t bringing much to the table when you get 3 stuns regardless (vs fiend) of her daze buff, and the rest of her buffs are nothing crazy. Neither are beating Vivian anyway, only Jane reaches her level.>DialynWhere are you getting that from? We have no real leaks about her + she isn’t in beta until a few days later
I can't wait for the next patch to give us more Nefer x Lauma
>>4483579I ship Lauma with Vilemina but there ain’t no way we’re seeing the latter ever again. Lauma/Ehrntooth is cue too. But hey, maybe Nefer will grow on me. So far I’m not into her at all. I’ve never liked the scheming types.
>>4483336>Dialyn likely is YSG’s BiS stunner God why. Not the least bit interested in her design nor her faction. Don't think I've ever pulled on a limited StunnerBtw, has there been any info on who's potentially our next Void Hunter?
Didn't expect these two to get this popular, but all the art has been great
>>4483616YSG is guaranteed to be the next VH, during her teaser you can hear the mayor offering the title to her.As for Dialyn, her kit is insanely strong and her animations are surprisingly cool. There’ll be a big difference between teams that have her and those that don’t with her providing: chain atk -> ult conversion, 50 dmg%, 35% stun multi, and 3s stun extension. She is an on-field stunner unlike JFF and Trigger, which might complement the only thing we know about YSG: she uses tag assists (like in H0).
>tfw the v4 beta for Cyrene is such a shitshow everyone's been shitting on her nonstopDamn, I can't believe the Elysia expy got done so dirty but then the other expies like acheron got fucked over tooHi3 privilege my ass
>>4483991? Acheron was meta for a long long time, and even now she is more than okay compared to others like Firefly or Feixao.
>>4484010Like hell she was and she required people to roll the homofox and no one did that
>>4484010She is super niche. She is almost useless without certain characters. And on top of that there's so many characters that can do what she does but better. Feixiao is still one of the best follow-up characters. I'd argue of the 3 she's way more useful than Acheron and Firefly. In 2025 Acheron is as useful as Seele. I doubt even buffs will help her much. For example look how little people are dusting off Jingliu and SW after their buffs
>>4483991Is she that bad? Guess I'll skip and focus on Nefer.
>>4484045well>she's not bad but is basically mono remembrance but with CH buffs attached>her ult takes longer to charge since it stack based and encourages CH (mostly memosprites)>aglaea and castorice teams can charge her up fine but other teams need hyacine and cyrene's e2>not all of her buffs are worth apart from anaxa, mydei, hysillens, castorice (its not that good but still), and aglaea>She's essentially no good as generic buffer ala tribbie because her generalist buffs pale in comparison to e1-e2 tribbieBasically she's like fugue but even more limited in support scope since's essentially xenolocked to a specific group of characters. unless they decide to shit out more chryso heirs, alt of the existing CH or more remembrance characters
>>4484048So she's only good is you're a whale and got damn near every Amphoreus character. That's classic hoyo for you. It feels like Star Rail is Hoyo's most profit first driven game. Yeah Genshin and ZZZ can be bad but man does it feel like Star Rail is worse at times. From Castorice's global passive. To not having a single 4 star in what feels like a full year now. Them quickly powercreeping characters in a couple of months. And my least favorite is them making too many expies, 5 star variants of existing 5 stars, and making 4 stars 5 stars. Its like Hoyo learnt the worst elements from the Fate franchise and how they handle FGO and applied them to their own game.
>>4484052Only roll her if you love Elysia or already have castorice and her BiS team
>>4484055I'm gonna be honest I've never played more than 10 minutes of HI3. Combined with her pretty meh character in Star Rail I don't see myself ever rolling for her. I was more curious about what got people upset than I was wanting her. After Evernight I don't see myself ever rolling in Star Rail for quite some time. Even the Yae expy character doesn't do anything for me.
>>4483899>her animations are surprisingly coolJust looked it up and some of her moveset reminds me of early Kiana with those big hands, that's neat. Guess I'll be skipping Vivian again.
>>4484058desu the hi3 references dont even bother, its the fact they decided to spend most of amphoreus focusing on kevin and then overcorrected with cyrene only interacted with stelle/caelus because chinks were spamming camerman muh cuck complaints
>>4484069That reminds me of Acheron and TB in Penacony. They set up that they'll have the mysterious relationship that we will see play out throughout Penacony but that never happens. Even worse they have pretty much no relationship in Penacony to the point the beginning scene might as well not have happened
On another note thinking back on it does anyone wish Firefly came out after Amphoreus? We meet this Stellaron Hunter and are left wondering who she is. Did she die and what's her relationship with the TB. The fact Stelle can talk to either her or Kafka shows that they're really close. That would make the SAM reveal a bit more interesting because not only would players be a bit more shocked that a character we saw in Stelle's flashback in Amphoreus was SAM but people would also be a bit more accepting of Firefly and her quick relationship with Stelle. So many issues I think people have with Firefly is the fact that we didn't know her and Stelle were close until after the event of Penacony. That and the reveal didn't have enough build to it since we just met Firefly. I feel like if she debuted in Amphoreus then had a story a few months later it would've worked better.
>>4484129As someone who really disliked the "romance" with firefly, I think your idea would've been pretty cool
>>4484148I think it would also help with Star Rail's biggest issue, the writing of the TB. Not since Belobog has the TB's own story advanced in any way. Yeah we learn a bit more about them but none of that is meaningful since those events happened already. Star Rail has been out for years now and we already know more about Belle than we do the TB. Imagine if we have a flashback of Firefly, Stelle wonder who she is, then we actually meet her? That would not only help with Firefly's writing but would actually advance the TB's own story. The flashback of Firefly in Amphoreus does nothing because Stelle already knows Firefly now. All the possibility of ghe TB being fleshed out more as a character wasted. I'm getting a little tired of TB just being a passenger in everyone else's story who's only there because they're a nice person.
>>4484859Its criminal how they haven't interacted
After 2 to 3 years, I returned to Honkai Impact.Elysian Realm is still fun, Seele is still cute, but it's odd.You see, back then, I was a giga whale, in Red Lotus when things really went shit and such. Nowadays, I see that all of my precious meta Valks are outdated, you can forge some of their sets, this is so unreal.But, anyway, it's still fun and I came to the conclusion that all of this whaling isn't worth it.Apparently you get this cliché small girl with big hammer for free and her whole set, and also some Part 2 ELF who exclusively buffs total DMG and total DMG taken by enemies, that's nice.What do I need (besides time) to create an actual playable F2P team around her?Can you also update me on the girls?
>>4485077The thing with part2 and the extended patch schedule is that there are 0 f2p options because you can afford every valk+weap by just buying monthlies.The general way team building works in p2 is that each girl has a main ring type and several traits. The main type comes into play when they’re the leader with each one having a different gimmick, and the traits correspond to a main ring type so you’re supposed to match them with the leader.>update on the girlsIt’s easier for you to play the story and meet the new girls. The p1 cast are being reintroduced into the story too, though they take more of a backseat role (other than Teri/Durandal so far).If you have any specific questions feel free to ask.
>>4485077The basic girls you get for free are still really good units when upgraded even more so their sigs.So it shouldn't take long maybe like a two or three days.Main girls are involved in the story but aren't the main focus expect maybe Kiana as a plot point.Part 2 starts slowly and badly but it builds up up be pretty great with allot of Yuri. The girl with big hammer coraloer and helia crossbow gun girl are mega gay for each other Then again so DMSO is most of part 2 girls if not all
>>4485082>>4485095That's a lot and a lot to consider. Apparently I have a lot to say, so let's try to make this short:I was actually gone for more than 3 years seeing that I was in chapter 31 with the last awards dated to May 2022. I want to be totally F2P now and not even get the monthly. 31's story was slow and drawn out, it was a slog, and I'm at 19 pity for the next S rank, I seem to get an idea why I quit back in 2022. Hammer girl and chrossbow girl might be a good starting point for a fun F2P team (God, I miss Myriad Abyss already), but I need some DPS. Let's hope Seele returns as well, just like Elysia next patch? I need to see how to build crossbow girl with just F2P resources and how this may all fit with that F2P ring.A lot of yuri sounds promising for these two and makes a team with them more appealing for sure. Oh well let's see what MHY cooks with storytelling, I fear it's just the same, but even more drawn out.Right now, I just feel like building old valks for ER since apparently this is still the most fun game mode in my opinion.
>>4485107>let's see what MHY cooks with storytelling, I fear it's just the same, but even more drawn outBit of a hot take, but after the first 3 chapters, I think part 2 is better than part 1
>>4485124I actually agree. When I look at p2 (post ch3) as a whole, I definitely enjoyed it more than p1. The yuri concentration is significantly higher too.
Cyrene is gonna flop like hell lmao
>>4485200It's really sad to see what hoyo did to her, it's make no sense. I wanted a reason to roll for her but now I'm already more interested on Constance, even if she is a breakflop, maybe I can dust my Firefly for sometime again.
>>4485211I'd argue Cyrene will outsell Constance. Constance has a boring design, done nothing in story, screams filler character, and doesn't have nearly as large of a following as Cyrene. Other than simps that like her design I don't even know what there is about her to be hyped for. She's had no interactions with the Express and no relationship with any other character besides being shit on by Acheron. I 100% believe she'll be another Jingliu or Luocha. A character that's pretty much a forgettable background character that pops up every now and then.
>>4485218She just need to make Firefly good again to sell well, it's that's easy.
>>4485200I doubt she'll do as bad as Jade or Cerydra. If they double down on her being the TB's waifu she might have a chance to do big numbers with the self insert players. The last few patches felt like they were slowly moving away from Cyrene and Phainon being really close to focus on her and the TB so I feel like that might be their direction. >>4485220Then powercreep will catch up and make break meh again. Don't fall for the endless cycles of rolling, powercreep, them rolling again. After Evernight I'm done with rolling in Star Rail. Unless a character reallt appeals to me I don't want them.
>>4485222On top of that Firefly's gameplay is pretty boring compared to the new Amphoreus characters. What the game needs is a new break character entirely. One with better animations and skills.
>>4485222>focus on her and the TB so I feel like that might be their directionConsidering they literally turned her into a waifu, yeah I'm pretty sure that's what they're doing
>>4485124I did play and replay part 1 on mutiple occasions and yea i gotta agree its more tightly wirtten.Of course part 1 had its moments but it also had allot of issue part 1 was hard carries by kiana and past source materials and animations.I do like how part 2 expands on the themes that went unadressed in part 1, of just he normal valks and how they feel among all these legendary girls that were designed for combat.I just really like how it focuses on more human grounded level.Not that par 1 wasnt cool but it was more about epicness
>>4485218>>4485222People are hyped (lol) because she's part of the annihilation gang that they were expecting to see during 2.x but they got off screened by acheron remember? Though 3.8 is basically them retconning/fixing plot holes in penacony so it's just gonna shill firefly and explain what she was doing after fucking off. I genuinely don't think anyone other than firefly fags are hyped for that patch because even the leaktrannies aren't letting 3.8 information out because they don't want anyone shitting on firefly or gossiping over her lmao
>they made cyrene's kit so racist that only castorice and aglaea can genuinely use itI don't get why they didnt just make her dedicated remembrance support unless they were afraid people were gonna see the about castorice getting more toys
>>4485255How many are more hype for her than Cyrene? I never said they weren't hyped in general just not more than Cyrene and I feel like she's filler.
>>4485259Given the absolute state of the cyrene's kit and the community bashing the shit out of her, I'm seeing more people saying they're skipping her for constance, Hyacines rerun and/or 4.x
I still think the entire community Is overreacting about Cyrene, she is not going to flop lmao. Especially with all the Elysia simps out there
>>4485260That's people in the US and on social media. Plus her banner hasn't been released yet. Let's see if they actually keep true to their word after her banner releases
>>4485260Do we know Constance's kit? What if she's complete shit? I doubt Hoyo would shit on Cyrene and make a throwaway nobody like Constance a meta character. She has 0 connection to anyone outside of Acheron to even deserve a banner at the moment, and Acheron is barely a character herself. I can't see her being that great that many would save for her, especially since Evernight and Castorice were many people's most wanted characters.
>>4485265>I doubt Hoyo would shit on Cyrene and make a throwaway nobody like Constance a meta character. They quite literally made castorice a meta character AND the anniversary character despite her being a literal nobody that served no purpose, even among the heirs. Hyacine is the most busted unit along with tribbie and they're both nobodies too. Not to mention they made the NPC looking fuck known as jiaoqiu into ack's "bis" partner at the time and no one rolled his ass
>>4485268*Hyacine and tribbie are the most busted harmony and sustain respectively despite being nobodies
>>4485258What I don't get is the hate. Yeah Castorice gets another support but isn't that what people here are saying Constance will end up being for Firefly, aka HSR's favorite, as well? She already has Fugue, TB, and Ruan Mei and she's already pretty boring to use in modern content. Is another "she will be good with FF" character really what people want?
>>4485265People jump on whatever is shilled, that's all. Under normal circumstances, nobody would've cared about Rice or Evernight. But shill works, sadly. I personally refuse to pull those characters though, unless the story actually sells me them. Amphoreus story sold absolutely nothing though.I hope they go back to designing characters with a little bit more freedom. Dev intended teams go too far in 3.x. The only char released wanting older chars is a colab one, and that's likely because the kit was designed during 2.x... that's never healthy.
>>4485268Castorice played a massive roll in the story and was at least close to Stelle. She was a weird pick for comparison
>>4485278In all fairness, FF fags are mad she doesn't have modern supports at all this year until 3.8 and can't make use of the actual broken supports we did get like tribbie and Hyacine. Plus people want to get rid of RM because she's a 1.x unit and half of her kit doesn't work with superbreak .
>>4485280I mean, Aglaea's best team quite literally using 2.x characters and one 1.x character (huohuo) before Dan heng III came out. But no one rolled really rolled aglaea due to>Her first impression in the story, apparently it was so bad that chinks had melties and hoyo had to send apology mail>Requires Sunday if you don't roll e1 and Sunday is controversial >E1 was already controversial because people, including jewtubers kept calling it the most scummy e1 despite prior characters having more egregious eidolons and fucking tribbie's e1 of all thingsQuite literally the only updates Aglaea has to her team is cyrene and Dan PT but you can still use Sunday even with cyrene
>>4485282The issue is Firefly isn't fun. Even with better supports she'd still be boring, still do ass damage, and still be part of the shit Break group.
>>4485285Does this explain her fall in relevance in the main story?
>>4485286That may be but if they straight up abandon her or replace her with a new superbreak DPS firefly fags would start firebombing mihoyo because they're basically the next generation of elysia cultists but for self inserters
>>4485290That, the way they discard characters to shill the next phase/patch characters and them spending 5 patches on jerking off the Kevin expy but ultimately not doing anything with him
>>4485286No one care about what you think is fun or not, Firefly banner was huge and she even has a skin the devs will not let her be useless for long.
>>4485291They tried to add a new superbreak dps and guess what, she didn't get a single rerun since her first banner.
>>4485297Exactly, but also the patch rappa debuted in was massively hated. I don't think I've seen anyone say they liked the banana patch
>>4485294Please explain to me where I said anyone had to care about what I say? I hate responses like this because its so stupid. "Don't say anything online unless you think everyone will care what you say" is a dumb mindset to have.
>>4485297>>4485299Yeah her patch sucked. Add to the fact Rappa is annoying and superbreak doesn't work in the new hp inflation world of HSR and you can see why people skipped. I also think there's a correlation between story and banner sales. Jade, Rappa, and Lingsha I bet might've done slightly better if they were actually in the main story. Emilie in Genshin also had this problem. The only character I feel was separate from this issue and still did poorly was Cerydra, since she was featured in the main story in some way.
>>4485302Tbh cerydra got fucked over because she was Kevin support, even though her skill stuff works with anaxa, archer and seele. Even in spite of that she still did better than hysillens lmao
>>4485294>she even has a skin the devs will not let her be useless for long.Did you already forget the March skin which was only usable on the worst version of her and dumped out well after nobody played her any more?
>>4485299Rappa was the only good thing about that patch. The patch could've been good if it was half the runtime and had any actually funny jokes
>>4483866Poor pulchra
>>4485314How do we know she did better than Hysilens? September saw a increase in sales but lets not forget Evernight did come out at the tail end of the month. I'd argue she saved September revenue for Star Rail from being even lower, since no one wanted Cerydra
>>4485407there were sensor tower or whatever meme revenue charts that got posted and it showed cerydra performing higher than hysillens. A second phase character doing higher than a first phase character is very unheard of but again,, hysillens is DoT and the majority of the playerbase understandably has an aversion to DOT
>>4485366Rappa was a terrible character that got joked on for her horrible discount Sakura design and annoying wannabe rapper personality >>4485408I remember hearing those sensor towers were very inaccurate
>>4485408That sounds fishy. How does she do better than Hysilens but her and Evernight only does 9 million more than Hysilens in total revenue for the month of September. These charts have to be wrong right?
lol yaoi is increasing in zzz
>>4485432Yaoi is the most dominant fans in Hoyo games.
>>4485550hot
>>4485533Is there potential for this or is it just fun fanart?
They're too cute
>>4485622I love them so much. Thelema getting flustered too is so cute
>>4485281What was even her role? It feels like they invented the "TB was dead all along" only to justify her existence. The dragon blocking the souls only happened because of her too, without her, the sister wouldn't have gone crazy and done bullshit. It's different from how Aglaea and Tribbie contribute. Even Hyacine should have been more relevant than Cas since we were told Aquila was the one blocking outsiders.>>4485290All Chrysos Heirs are only story-relevant in the patch they are released, then they fucking drop off the face of the earth
>New Eridan Vol. 04 | The Iris Blooming by the Shore>"Come on, Vivian, open up. Ahh—" "Huhhhh?? Lord Phaethon is personally feeding me ice cream? If... If this is a dream, I don't want to wake up!"
>>4486114Seems like they found out that vivibelle is popular so they chose belle in this?
Using Caelus in the version PV is 10/10, since we’ll see those exact same scenes with Stelle ingame, and Cyrene’s trailer (which won’t be ingame) will be with Stelle
>>4486173Most people are skipping Cyrene anyway so not too many people care. All this showed was how much they have to forcefully make her a waifu to sale
>>4486040This is a weird take. By this logic none of the characters have any real role and you can say Stelle and Dan Heng not being able to leave was done to justify there existence. What I was saying is at least the story does something with Castorice. What has the story done with Constance outside her hetting jobbed offscreen that would make anyone hyped to get her? This isn't a stab at Constance but Hoyo. Why wouldn't they use any of these past stories to tease her arrival? Them focusing so much of banner characters really fucked her more than most characters if you ask me. That's why I said she feels so filler. At worse she's like Lingsha, Rappa, and Emilie. At best she's like Skirk and had her story placed in an awkward time that makes it feel like filler
>everyone was hating cyrene for taking up screentime and calling her a mary sue like her hi3 counterpart>this new "skin" come out and changes the pngs in the ult animation with trailblazer>it also costs $300 dollars>everyone's changing their tune about her nowlol
>>4486217Best thing that happened in 3x patch.
>>4486220You spelled only thing wrong. Hard to not be the best when nothing else happened >>4486196The funny thing with Cyrene is even though they're triple downing on her being a waifu for the TB almost no one ships them with her. When the game tries too hard to get people to ship characters it just creates the opposite reaction. Firefly was pretty bad at times but Cyrene seems to be solely for gooners
>>4486281>but Cyrene seems to be solely for goonersdesu her design is pretty conservative and no visible cleavage like her predecessor so its hard to imagine gooners getting off to her
>>4486282True I guess gooners isn't the best word. I should've said self insert players. On another note why is no one talking about this shot? Nefer is the ultimate example of selfcest
>>4486292>shady femme fatale type with a dark bob cut and a pov trailer who does flips and shit in fights>all of her most meaningful interactions are with women>glued to a woman in gameplayShe's like a course-corrected Jane Doe. Love her.
>>4486335Her and Lauma are definitely the Jean/Lisa, Beidou/Ningguang, Candace/Dehya, and Clorinde/Navia of Nod Krai. Weirdly enough Natlan didn't really have a tall women ship. Chasca and Xilonen weren't shown much and Xilonen and Mavuika never really get to that must ship level that the others have. >She's like a course-corrected Jane DoeJane Doe was so close to being perfect if it wasn't for the random Seth stuff. What makes it even worse is the fact that all that was dropped in favor of her and Belle and her and Zhu Yuan as the game went on. A sexy woman teasing and messing tmwith a blushing mess Belle would've been so much better. >>4486217I don't know if you ever heard of Watamote but this image neverminds me of the VN game fanart of Tomoko and her harem.
>>4485561Yidhari has more shipping fuel with Lucia than Belle in game, way more, so maybe not, but its a fun subject for art anyway
>>4486379you cannot convince Seth wasn't a last minute addition to avoid any confirmation of Jane being obviously into women
Reject Honkai: Shit Rail. Embrace cute Jahoda/Ineffa cuddle sleeping
>Eula's birthday letter this year is about her and Amber taking a vacation together and Amber looking after herEmber enjoyers are eating today
>>4486379>>4486393agreedThere are allot of those kinds of things once you nortice
>>4484723The look Sandrone gives after the lips to lips kiss is absolute perfection. Just one of pure love
I just finished chapter 34. God, I love this game so much. Elysia might be a poorly written mess, without the character development of all the others and she has no business getting between Mei and her girlfriend, but I still enjoyed that conclusion. I figure it's because this was about Mei and just Mei.
>>4486567I like the fact that Columbina's VA ships them together
Seele thoughts.
>>4486506The Nod Krai ladies have all been great so far. If Alice and Nicole have some shipteasing this will be the first region where all the ladies introduced in a region have a yuri ship I believe
I've seen people shipping Nefer with both Lauma and Yelan lately
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This artist is the only person that's keeping the Topaz x Stelle ship alive and I thank them for it. Their art of them is always cute and funny
I was not at all expecting the rather frequent emphasis on Mobius/Klein in the recent events, but it does delight me.
>>4487088Don't you love it when yuri ships work well together. Meanwhile HSR makes so many ladies work well with one of the male characters. Stelle/March (Evernight) is one of the only /u/ pairings I can think of off the top of my head that actually work well together. Besides them I think there's also Stelle/Firefly and Acheron/BS.
https://e-hentai.org/g/3507753/4126abc42b/
>>4487095The only thing I ever cared about worked well together. Star Rail has been pretty shit with this for a long time now.
>>4487095It's what I appreciate about HI3. When I first started the game, MHY gave you a beginner team which was actually pretty decent for the early game, you got (to make it simple) Seele, Bronya and Kiara. If your team was led by Seele, the second part of her leader skill didn't even trigger unless you had Bronya in your party as well. That's not even that uncommon and it's usually (obviously) Bronya x Seele or Kiara x Mei. The game wants you to pair each of them up with her girlfriend.
>>4487170 (me)Kiana obviously.HI3 did a lot right when it comes to yuri.
Bronya x Seele or "Seele" x Seele?
>>4487572Bronya x Seele x "Seele"
https://youtu.be/x3bRer52asE?si=SH-DQCHmrwib-YViNice that they used Stelle in an actually important video.
>>4487599They have been doing it for a while because they want to put male trailblazer in Elysias trailers
>>4487599Its crazy how Amphoreus made me not care anymore for for the plot
>>4487606i think they are shooting themselfs in the foot teasing all this shit that wont happen
>>4487618Not just that but it all just feels like content for the sake of it. Why should I care about what the Stellaron Hunters are doing? Why should I care about these new planets and threats? Why do any of these new characters mean anything to me when to Hoyo they are just means to fill their pockets? I'm also so tired of these stories writing the TB as some important character when nothing that's ever taken place in the game means a damn thing to them. Not Penacony, Luofu, Belebog, or Herta's Space Station. None of these stories had any real impact on the TB besides maybe the first one allowing them to meet the Express crew. Can anyone legitimately tell me what the TB has done in any other planet to advance their own personal story? I hate how they write the TB like they have this incredible destiny to look forward to yet can't be bothered to write 1 single story that directly impacts them as a character. Not one single story has the game even tried to make the events of the story connect to the TB's life. If they aren't gonna do that can they please stop the glazing of the TB then. So many people keep calling them the hero of Amphoreus when throughout the whole thing they just ride shotgun for someone else's arc in the plot. TB reminds me of those harem series where the girls do all the work but the guys get all the praise. This might sound like an unpopular opinion but I think WuWa writes the Rover into the story way better than Hoyo writes their MCs. Rover is always given a reason to be there besides them being nice, is always the focal point of the arc, and we learn more about them when the arc closes. Have we learnt anymore about the TB since Belobog? Why do we only get glimpses of the Traveler once/twice a year? Why does the proxy feel like our self insert that's just along for the ride for a huge part of every main story? After all these years why is Kiana still the only MC they know how to properly write?
>>4487667>Why does the proxy feel like our self insert that's just along for the ride for a huge part of every main story?That's one of my huge gripes with ZZZ story other than some things being forgotten about like Fairy and the other AIs or how quickly misunderstandings or how most of these huge threats they present are resolved in the same chapter or the next one, like I know they are hackers who help traverse the hollows but it feels like the world remains static unless they are involved
>>4487667>After all these years why is Kiana still the only MC they know how to properly write?Entropy is pretty good too
>>4487667>After all these years why is Kiana still the only MC they know how to properly write?Because Kiana was actually an MC not just a self-insert. And even with her as the ostensible MC, Mei and Bronya also played roles with significant roles, as did secondary characters like Durandal, Hua and Seele.Like I'll be honest, I actually like Amphoreus' story unlike a lot of anons, but even I'll recognize that a lot of the plot beats here and before fall flat, and it's basically all down to being a gacha game. Priority #1 is selling you the newest character, anything else comes second at best. What's more, HSR's particular structure in facilitating that lends itself to being particularly weak.A strength of HI3 as a story is that it /has/ an actual narrative. It tells a long form story, with new chapters unfolding patch-by-patch. And rather than cycle out its entire cast with each big version turn-over, it has a largely static cast, with new gacha units being variants on the same character most of the time, representing some new phase, development, or side of that character as presented in the story or certain events. While "Part 2" represented a major break from this original trend with a large number of all-new characters, already we've gotten a new Durandal, Helia and Coralie's (first) major upgrades, plus new event variants for Kiana and Elysia. This design philosophy lets them keep older characters relevant in evolving gameplay, avoid cast bloat, and give meaningful progression to the story.Even Genshin, which I feel has weaker episode-to-episode storytelling than HSR, the overarching narrative is much better anchored. Teyvat is a vast open world which has been built and expanded on nigh every other patch, and the driving goal of exploring it is Lumine's search for her brother. Him having somehow become the world's villain then gives her, and thus the player, a particular cause to become more intertwined in the affairs of each new region visited.
>>4487687Now, compare that to HSR. Where Genshin is a single, vast, interconnected and involved world, HSR presents a cosmos filled by disparate worlds. And rather than an open world, it's a classic JRPG of interconnected, strictly-defined maps. Now in a world utterly inundated with far too many open world games, I'm not going to call that a bad thing, but that design is also reflected in the story; each world has its own conflict at best tangential to the broader conflict which should be driving the story. In theory, this is not so different from Genshin's countries, and the "Cosmos" as a "World" should be linked by the overarching conflict of the Aeons and the goals of Destruction in particular, but in looking at how this conflict has been presented in-game thus far, it's absent half the time. Belobog and Penacony are only loosely tied into it by the plot-macguffin of the Stellarons, which thus far are only vaguely connected to the Destruction as the main conflict driver.Thinking it over, I think HSR's biggest issue is its choice of protagonists. Not just the TB as an over-hyped self-insert, but the Astral Express crew in general. The idea of a wandering group of explorers helping solve the issues of those they visit is nice on paper, but in practice it makes them feel disconnected from basically every conflict. And while Dan Heng and March have roles which tie them into wider conflicts, Himeko and Welt are basically just there for fanservice. You say, "why should I care about what the Stellaron Hunters are doing?", but I can't help but think that the story would work a lot better if they were the focus instead. They're the ones actually actively playing a role in fighting the big overarching conflict, so having them be the protagonists instead would do wonders for keeping the plot focused I think. And they could write the TB as an actual character directly involved in the story, instead of just dipping in and out without a clue what they're doing.
>>4487687Amphoreus' biggest issue for me is how repetitive it is. We walk down a long hallway filled with bodies 100 times. We see the banner characters flashback over and over again. Then things end because we need to shill the next banner character. The game becomes really formulaic in telling its story.
>>4487688>And they could write the TB as an actual character directly involved in the story, instead of just dipping in and out without a clue what they're doing.If the TB was an actual character then incela wouldn't be able to self insert as them and that means Hoyo wouldn't make as much money
For me, a big problem with Stelle and the Astral Expres is that they're coded as adventurers, but they never really go adventuring. They go somewhere, and then adventures just happen at them, or worse, the adventures happen at someone else when Stelle just happens to be around
>>4487688>I can't help but think that the story would work a lot better if they were the focus instead.Let's be honest Kafka is loved because we get her in doses. Having to hear her ramble on and on about Fate, SW constantly talk about video games and hacking, or Blade being the complete bore that he is would get boring fast. They work because we don't see them, but ironically its because we don't see them much that when they do randomly pop up makes their inclusions feel random. For example that latest trailer just felt random and like pointless TB glazing. Like what is Stelle? A wandering traveler trailblazing across the cosmos? Or some important person that is destined to change the world? If she's the later the story does a piss poor job showing that in story. I hate being told a character is special but never shown why they are.
>>4487700This. This is my issue as well. Too much of the crew is them reacting than acting. There should've been more time of them just adventuring. Stelle has done nothing but fight enemies in the short time she's joined
>>4487598Two Seeles, One BronyaOr in Star Rail:Two Bronyas, One Seele
how long is amphoreus i did it early cause i thought it would be quick but just keeps going and going
I have no idea where to set in in this reply chain, so yeah. Stelle is a sitcom hero: She goes to planet A, saves the day, leaves planet A again as if nothing happened and in the next episode, she goes to planet B.Nothing she does advances any plot or herself as a character.That's why I went back to HI3rd eventually: Kiana and friends actually experience a story that's going on, there's character development, and there's a girls only squad that's extremely /u/ coded which might be an understatement considering MHY confirmed that Kiana and Mei, Seele and Bronya and finally Kallen and Yae Sakura are actually couples. It's just when some cardboard standee like Elysia is introduced that the story is bad. It's honestly just Elysia and her yes-men flame chasers. It's a shame because their game mode is a lot of fun.>>4487598>>4487752I'm jealous of Bronya that she gets 2 Seeles.
>>4487758700 hours it feels like Nefer and Lauma's vouce actors met up irl and people are drawing fanart of their meeting as the characters
>>4487758Amphoreus is longer than all the previous chapters combined. And it took half of that time just to get to the point of why we were even there,
>>4487758If you skip each part is like 30-40 minutes, if not, over 40 hours
courtesy of /hig/ on /vg/
>>4487852What's with this threads' hateb* for Elysia? ER was genuinely awesome and well-written, and very /u/. It's indeed a shame that it didn't have Kiamei, but it's still gay. And to be honest the ship's whole writing fell off halfway through Part 1. It was absolutely perfect for most of the story, but pretty meh during Kolostein and Moon arc. Maybe because fanchuan can't write for shit, especially emotions, but Kiamei deserved so much better. Even the Herrscher of Domination arc was a slog with very little gayness compared to the rest of the game.>>4487606I hate the plot inside Amphoreus (titans, heirs, Kevin, Dan Heng's bullshit, mandatory companion quests clogging the story, etc), but the overarching plot of the Archon war is the only thing that actually got me excited from hoyo's writing in months. Though I agree that it does feel mostly impersonal and all the "the whole universe will fucking end if we fail" is tiring. But I did find the experiments plotline interesting, and how it all tied to several other lore points. Herta was great in that video too. Absolute badass who sacrificed herself to protect Nous and became Rubert III. Now this kind of grim AU hits hard. And the potential for Ruanherta angsty yuri is delicious
>>4487968I skipped everything so I didn't even notice Herta sacrificed herself. Does anyone really care that she did? I always found Herta to be like Amber, super boring and only somewhat liked because of shipping/memes
>>4487969I mean Amber is great her manga was pretty great.As for Herta turning into a space monster its a nice set up horror yuri with Ruan Mei
>>4487968If you ask me, that ER arc was the first one that just felt realy drawn out and like a slog to go through. Elysia is a Mary Sue and she has no business challenging Kiana for her girlfriend. The flame chasers just feel like her yes-men and indeed, far too many of them are guys. I don't want guys in Honkai Impact. Now Elysia gets shoehorned into everything, it just feels as if she hasn't earned this compared to all the others who endured and overcame so much hardship.I have to admit, though, that the actual game mode of ER is a lot of fun.
>>4487968>What's with this threads' hateb* for Elysia?NTA but I don't hate Elysia as a character, I think she can be fun, and could even be interesting if she wasn't so sanitized. I hate that she's an annoying plot device that invalidates all the struggles our MC went through. It cheapens the themes and the narrative
It's not just this thread. /hig/ over on /vg/ hates Elysia with a passion, she's like their personal antichrist.
>>4487969That's the weirdest opinion I've ever heard about Herta. Even their personalities are different. Also Herta is a powerful emanator and funny, her charm point is her arrogance, and now we know she deserves to act like this.>>4487972>that invalidates all the struggles our MC went throughHow?>>4487971If she were a mary sue, she wouldn't have died and the sim world wouldn't have been completely destroyed. Half of the Flame Chasers are annoyed at her or hate her (Mobius). But it does feel like the devs had planed something different for her, but changed it halfway, to a more sanitized version.>>4487973She truly managed to unite all of humanity
>>4487852>Kiana and Mei, Seele and Bronya and finally Kallen and Yae Sakura are actually couplesAlso Durandal and Rita, Elysia and Eden, Mobius and Klein, and Helia and Coralie.Also I hear people talk about Vita and Griseo, but outside of memes and Griseo's subplot in part 2 of the summer event, I don't really know anything about them.
>>4487968>And the potential for Ruanherta angsty yuri is deliciousI've yet to see anything except horniness for Empress Irontomb Herta.>>4487969>I skipped everything so I didn't even notice Herta sacrificed herself.She didn't, it's a "What if?" from the recent cat lore video.
>>4487980I never said they were the same person. Did you even read my post anon?
>>4487852HI3 started off as a story centered around a select group of humanity's defenders, and the gacha (battlesuits) worked around it. It was proper storytelling, regardless of the actual quality of the story.That's why the story worked, and started to lose some of its soul when they added more and more characters.Genshin and HSR are completely built around mandatory screen time of new characters they want you to roll
>>4488070>Durandal and Rita, Elysia and Eden, Mobius and Klein, and Helia and CoralieI know that all of those are shipped hard and very obviously couples, but did MHY ever confirm themselves that they are dating? As far as I know, they only ever confirmed the 3 couples I listed and that wasn't even in the game even though everyone knows, it was in the manga.>>4487980>She truly managed to unite all of humanityI like this thread, it's very /u/ coded, but leans more into the gameplay side of things and obviously there's this characteristic /vg/ toxicity.
>>4487980>Also Herta is a powerful emanator and funny, her charm point is her arrogance, and now we know she deserves to act like this.Herta fucking sucks anon. The Herta is also one of the lamest designs Hoyo ever did. Its just doll Herta but taller. We waited a long ass time for that. Pathetic.
>>4488094>Its just doll Herta but tallerAdmittedly, I quit before The Herta dropped, but Herta's small size always seemed to complicate her ship with Ruan Mei. She's the cliché small girl + big hammer while Ruan Mei is more of a mature woman. Even though Herta's bratty attitude isn't rooted in her being young, but arrogant, it's very much as if her relationship was for the age difference enthusiasts.The Herta seems to "correct" this "mistake".
>>4488092Helia and Coralie are secretly declaring their eternal love for each other when paired up (see their unique buff values for each other).
The evolution of Kiana's and Mei's relationship in 3 steps.
>>4488097>Herta's small size always seemed to complicate her ship with Ruan MeiThe ship is never gonna be canon so does it really matter what her size is?
>>4488216The ship would get less fanart because it would be accused of pedo. And personally I would find it less interesting because I'm not into loli. And even if we always knew Herta had a big form, it would be lame to need to imagine it.
>>4488298Less fanart from the EN crowd maybe, which is generally inferior to JP/CN/KR so nothing of value lost.Give Herta x RM more screentime (they had nearly no content pre-3.0, mainly just bits of text here and there), and you’ll have more fanart even if Herta is exclusively in her doll form.
>>4488298Would it really be? We know Herta is not actually a child so its not really her being a pedo. Also there's fanart out there with adult characters being paired with the kids so I doubt anyone would say anything. On top of that Hoyo is already massive lolicons
>>4488298>>4488325>>4488337Never go on Twitter, the stupidity is astounding.
>>4488413People still play HSR?
>>4488452Whos getting NTR'd here?
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>>4488477Fuck forgot text, meant to say I miss these two interacting so much
>>4488479I miss Ayaka in general. It feels like forever since she's been a major character in a story
So ugh when is Lumine meeting her girlfriend again. I was hoping it would be in Nod Krai. They had to be a reason they mentioned her in that event awhile back right?
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>>4488491I wish Hoyo didn't pussy out and actually had Jeht kiss Lumine on the cheek like they originally planned. Who cares if the Aetherfags got butthurt over it. It doesn't seem like they have any plans on making her playable
>>4488484Sucks that they kind of did the same thing to Firefly in star rail, give a character a really nice and romantic personal quest/scene with them with the MC, then forget and replace them with whatever "waifu" they want to shill next overtime.
>>4488493>kek buy the pink thing, retard>t. MHY
>>4488497It wouldn't hurt so much if Ayaka wasn't so organic, like they meet up after she hears all these stories about a mysterious Traveler doing stuff in Teyvat and their interactions come across completely as "fell in love at first sight" and then you go on a personal quest with her that ends with her doing something extremely personal for them with the dance and its the also the first time in the story you can see signs of Lumine reciprocating that kind of feeling with a playable character.
>>4488493The thing I hate about Star Rail is that they do thay before any conclusion is given. The reason no other Stelle ship has really gotten off the ground after Firefly is because the devs not only want her to still be THE waifu, but like you said they keep immediately shilling the next waifu. Castorice and Stelle's relationship ended before it got a chance to start. Just when people were starting to ship it she disappears. Stelle x March didn't really grow because March barely talked to Stelle the whole patch and spent most of her time with Evernight. Unfortunately Stelle x Dan Heng has doubled thanks to Amphoreus. Stelle x Cyrene isn't Firefly level because not only is it forced but people also already know this is just Hoyo shilling the next waifu. We all know Cyrene will be forgotten about as soon as Stelle leaves Amphoreus in favor of Constance having a forced interaction with the Express. I will admit I'm surprised by just how little people ship Cyrene with Stelle. I'm glad I'm not in the minority that don't care for the ship at all
>>4488503Firefly at least has the "they were close in the past" buff going that makes it a bit more understandable since Firefly at least, probably wont disappear like Ayaka has in genshin since shes a Stellaron hunter which at this point are the 2nd main character squad. 3.8 is gonna be make or break for Firefly fans
>>4488501I don't play Genshin, so I can't tell, but as a Honkai player, I'm - always - mad about the pink thing, obviously. Apparently it got to HSR now as well.I feel bad for all the HSR players out there.And she even has the audacity to get anywhere near Kiana's girlfriend? God, give me a break.And also give me a break ingame with constant pink weather in abyss.
>>4488501I think Shenhe, Ayaka, and Jeht have the most organic relationships with Lumine. To add to what you said about Ayaka we have Shenhe learning she can be shown love and learning to use her powers to protect the one she loves. Jeht's story of family and loss parallel so well with Lumine's story of finding her lost family. It's also so beautiful how they were able to find each other after all the tragedy in their lives
>>4488505The issue this Firefly is that since all their development was from an unseen past their present day relationship feels forced, since we never saw it
>>4488478Lumine has a thing for cryo ladies
>>4488456Vivian knows Belle cant be chained to one woman
>>4488508It’s fine since it’s her patch, just pray she isn’t FoV 2.0 getting weathers consistently multiple patches after release. She got more weathers in the 2 patches post-Lantern release than Lantern herself did, and that’s on top of all the shit she got since release.
>>4488456>>4488542Vivian seems to be enjoying it
>>4488544>It’s fine since it’s her patchIt's Seele's and Kianners' patch if you ask me
>>4488477I seen this picture before but it was not animated? is that AI? kinda looks nice besides the artifacting
No one talking about the latest PV featuring Tomiya(the girl from Jane's trailer) getting an eyeful of the octopussy?https://x.com/ZenlessWorld/status/1984114247870378294
>>4488747Poor(lucky as fuck) girl keeps getting into these situations
>>4488508Pink Thing will have to get in line, cause Space Mei already has a girlfriend
>>4488508You're supposed to love Jesus more than your spouse, and Elysia is Pink Jesus, so ...
>>4488778She isn't pink Jesus, she's the Herrscher of Bullshit and there's just one girl for Mei: Kiana.
Look at those clumsy cats! Spilling milk all over their bed. It can't be helped.
>>4488747This slut was gonna open the door for anyone. Gross
>>4488713Sometimes ai can make cute animations from fanart
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Welp, Cyrene's an absolute wash, but my doomed yuri stocks are at an all-time high so ultimately I don't really care.
>>4489299The Caelus shit doesn't make her trash. Her kit alone makes her trash. The easiest skip for me in the game.
>>4489299That's what you get by trying to claim someone as lesbian when she is always writen as a bislut.
>>4489302Thus "Absolute Wash."If she were a blatant lesbian like Elysia, or as OP as the amount of shilling being done would make you think, there'd be something salvageable, but she's neither.
>>4489302Won't they just buff her up if it's universally found to be trash?Unless maybe this is simply an experiment to see how many people will actually pull for bad characters or even sell their organs for a bad character's skin.
>>4489302There’s nothing wrong with her kit in the remembrance team, the doomposting is meaningless and stupid
>>4489306>a blatant lesbian like ElysiawhatThere's hetshit with Elysia even in the proper yuri game Honkai Impact 3rd, she flirts with Kevin, she's just a whore and the ultimate catastrophe to hit the game. Het slop, her yuri story is nonsensical at best and insulting at worst, she gets shilled like crazy...I'm so sick of this woman.
>>4489317Yeah because every player rolled for every Rememberance character in the game. Fucking retard
>>4489317>she's good if you rolled for other characters The fact that you can't see the issue of that says a lot. This isn't some throwaway character like Escoffier. This is a character that's arguably the most shilled HSR character to date. The fact that I need to have gotten other characters to make her work is crazy. It's like I'm being punished by not getting a whole bunch of other characters. I mean Hoyo is aware of how meh she is by pilling a whole bunch of characters to hide how poorly she would've sold alone. Let's not do free PR for a billion dollar company anon.
>>4489414>>4489421She's either BiS or a solid alternative for all CH DPS at E0 (being a massive upgrade for Cas/M7/Mydei main DPS teams especially). Acheron/FX/FF already got their 3.x DLCs via 3b/Cipher for the former two and Constance for FF. The only bad thing about her kit is that it'll be useless whenever CH teams die, but other than that it's solid.
>>4489434Anon missed the whole point of my post
>>4489434>she's good if you rolled for other CHThat's a massive reason as to why she's not good. None of the CH are 4 star characters so the odds that a majority of people have all of them is low. It's also scummy that Hoyo would release her last and have every CH have a rerun to milk even more money from people. All I got from Hoyo from the banner lineup is basically them saying "you want your waifu then be sure to buy her accessories as well"
Hear me out!>Thelema>Lamp>BitaThe party of 3 aggressively lesbian baddies.
>>4489369>she flirts with KevinLiterally where? 1 teasing comment that barely meant anything is not flirting. Kekvin had a girlfriend, why do hetcels think Hoyo supports adultery? Elysia actually flirts with the women, and hetcels say it's just friendly, they would say it's romantic if it were said to males
Elysia might be gay but Cyrene certainly is not. It feels like Hoyo wants us to ship her with either Caelus or Phainon
>>4489532Cyrene is likely just playersexual, but not sure if the devs ship her with Phainon at all, since the current one doesn't even know he exists. Phairenecels are buttblasted about it
>>4489532I expect "lesbian cannot be even remotely friendly with a guy without being accused of being bi/het" from Twitter, but /u/... I really shouldn't have expected any better given the gold-star culture.>>4489561Honestly, gross as it is to say, I think I'd have preferred Phairene. At least the childhood friend angle works better than... whatever the self-insert setup is supposed to be. Like, she was TB's fairy companion, but then it turns out that she had an imaginary friend that coincidentally took on their form and it turns out she's been waiting millennia for TB specifically to show up motivated entirely by the thought of getting to be with them even though she only just learned about them??? And there's no indication or reason she could have learned about them beforehand, let alone developed such a dependency on them??? It's a mess.
>>4489561What I hate about "playersexual" characters is how awkward they feel when the player (myself) doesn't self insert as them. That's one of the reasons I'm not into characters like Firefly or Cyrene. It feels like they are looking at me and not Stelle. Compare them to March or Kafka that feel like their relationship is with Stelle and you can see a clear shift in how they are presented. Their trailers feel different and they feel more like characters. I feel like Genshin is a bit better at making characters MC sexual than playersexual. Like I feel like Ayaka, Shenhe, and Nilou like Lumine instead of liking me. Citlali might be the only Genshin character that I feel leans too far into playersexual territory. ZZZ started off giving me the feeling that the characters liked Belle and not me but the more I played the more the game felt like it was heading into a more playersexual route. Look at Ellen's relationship with Belle and then look at Astra's more in your face attraction. I'm not saying playersexual characters suck or people who self insert suck (these are gacha games so characters that like the player and players that self insert are common) just that I'm not into that. Its why Vertin in R1999 is my favorite MC. She really feels like her own person.
>>4489575>She really feels like her own person.To be fair, ZZZ started off that way too with the proxy siblings feeling like their own character but as it went on and the revenue numbers not being as high as MHY expected, they stripped away their personalities and pandered to waifufags to the point your proxy is a prop which stands there while plot happens
>>4489580I don't even see people talk about Belle or other ZZZ ships here as much as before. Now the game is just Azur Lane with a bigger budget. I wonder what Hoyo will do when Azur Promilia comes out.
>>4489580>>4489581I still remember when the incels got so triggered at one of the VAs for implying their character was a lesbian.
>>4489479>have all of themWhat makes you think you need all of fhem? Having one team is enough to make her worthwhile.>4*RMC, who also has a better kit than any 4* could wish to have
>>4489584Imagine defending the need to roll for other characters to make a character useful
>>4489564I'll have to disagree. With playersexual, at least it can look gay if you play as Stelle, and even some fanarts can reflect that. Also the TB will inevitably leave the planet one day and get another waifu, then Cyrene will be freed from the bullshit. If she were shipped with Phainon, it would be always het, it would fuel the Kevin x Elysia retards AND she would be permanently stuck to that fucker, since they would only be shipped with each other instead of hopping to a new character with every new planet. And they will probably be around each other often. It's also funny seeing kekvinfags seething at their man being a cuck.Though I'd rather hoyo focused more on Cyrene x March/Evernight, yuri or not, and the Remembrance subplot. Maybe Cyrene will be shippable with their crazy "sister" from the GoR who wants to kill all seeds of Fuli.
>>4489584You tell em anon. Fuck having 4 stars you can get without hitting pity. Fuck those who didn't roll for at least 2 limited CH characters. Its their fault for not having these characters if they wanted to roll for Cyrene not Hoyo for making it where you need them for her to be better than just decent. Who cares if they have lives to live and bills to pay am I right.
>>4489593I forgot these two existed. Wasn't Burnice one of the games biggest flops. Well flop by Hoyo's standard
>>4489598I don't play the game. I just look at the porn/art
>>4489575Firefly's trailer and marketing was at least 99.9% about her, with just a smidge of the playersexual thing at the very last second. Her actual use in the story was maybe a bit too centered on it, but she still feels like she has some meat as a character.Cyrene it's at least 50% of the focus, and that really leaves her feeling disconnected from the actual story when she's setup as its focal point.
>>4489588>Also the TB will inevitably leave the planet one day and get another waifu, then Cyrene will be freed from the bullshit.>If she were shipped with Phainon, it would always be hetFair enough point there.And yes, agreed, pink girls making out would definitely be preferable to either.
>>4489589You get at least 800 pulls from 3.0 to 3.7 completely f2p, even if you only got half of that it’s enough to guarantee two 5* and have enough for a 50/50 left over too.And if you’re fine with 4*-tier performance then I doubt you’ll have any issues with running Cyrene + RMC with whoever else, whether or not they are a CH.>>4489585That’d be the majority of characters. Fugue is only usable with 3 DPS, Hysilens doesn’t exist if you don’t have Kafka, etc. Did you complain about those characters when they’re just as restrictive as Cyrene is?And before you claim they’re still usable in other cope teams, so is Cyrene since she still brings 80 dmg%, 20 true dmg, a one-time ult refill, and decent personal damage (more than 3b) without any heirs.
>>4489613Tye delusion of this anon is crazy
>>4489613Anon shut the fuck up already. Just say you want her and that you're a big simp of hers and move on. No ine fucking cares
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>>4489706I don’t like her and I’m skipping her (I only pulled 3b and Cipher), but the complaints about her kit (other than it being useless once CH dps die out) are all bullshit
>>4489739No they aren't. Even your points prove that. And lets not lie now anon. No one fights this hard for someone they don't want.
>>4489756702409197 - feel free to check for gacha result announcements and endgame lineups throughout next patch and afterwards>your points prove thatI also skipped Hysilens because I don’t have Kafka, does that mean Hysilens has a bad kit?
>>4489739>I don't like her or want her but I'll fight tooth and nail for her and how good she is to useYeah sure anon you we can all see how much you really hate her and don't want her.
Are people seriously complaining about character viability in a casual non-competitive single player game?
>>4489763See >>4489757I don’t like or want Sunday either but you don’t see me calling his kit bad
>>4489757Cyrene's not real anon. You don't have to keep fighting for her like this. Its getting sad now.
>>4489768You also aren't fighting tooth and nail that its good
>>4489766People are also complaining about the yuri in non-yuri games. You're not making much of a point anon. People complain about things. Welcome to the internet
>>4489770Because no one has claimed it is bad
>>4489090She is great
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>>4489769I couldn’t care less about Cyrene, I’m just baffled by the double standards you have when comparing kits
>>4489779Who's kit am I comparing hers to? You're just making shit up now
>>4489781I brought up Fugue and Hysilens as examples of kits more restrictive than Cyrene’s.
>>4489787Ok. But when did I compare kits? You did not me
>>4489787They aren't though. Fugue can be used with anything break releasing ever.Cyrene won't be able to buff anyone in the future, ever. Unless they specifically buff her to be compatible with someone.Considering the way SR however works right now, that isn't happening.
EhIt was alrightSome cute Yidhari moments
Sneaking a quick one before the thread dies
>>4489952We’re on page7, still got a good week left
>>4489957Oh, I knew the threads went by pretty slowly around here, but I thought the thread had one more day left. I guess this board is pretty relaxed.
>>4489944It looks like she's pretty into Belle
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>Constance is a literal succubus who was coming after Black Swan in Penacony>Plot aborted because muh red herring, rewrite or not enough timeWe were so robbed. Imagine what could have happened between these 2 + Acheron and Sparkle.
>>4490352Does anyone even remember that plot line? She's such a non character it's hard to care about her
>>4490353It was more promising than what we actually got in Penacony
Anyone else tired of all the Cyrene content Hoyo is focing on us? It feels so forced. Even more when we know they'll forget about her after her banner is done.
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>>4490431I've been behind on the story, and only just now catching up, and she's kinda growing on me?Lacking context, the marketing felt pretty forced to me, and I'm still not really sold on it, but I at least get what they're going for now, I think? It is sorta confusing in how there are like, two Cyrenes? Still catching up so maybe that all gets resolved in 3.6, or maybe it's covered in the new 3.7 story.But anyway, Amphoreus' double-dose of doomed yuri is pretty peak (triple if one counted Stelle/Cyrene and/or Castorice, which... nah.)
>>4490439Anon you are brave for actually bothering in reading this boring ass story. Amphoreus is complete shit and has the worse cast of characters ever
>>4490443I really dunno how you can say that with a straight face when Sunday exists
>>4490444Sunday isn't a cast of characters anon
>>4490447No but no one in Penacony really makes up for how much he drags things down. And I say that as someone who ADORES Firefly.
>>4490444Sunday is a single character not a cast of characters. Reading is important people
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>>4490528Which update you're talking about?
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It was a really boring wrap up, well whatever, the only chryso heirs I rolled was Tribbie and her story ended ages ago, now to save up for Dhalia and 4X characters.
>>4490577Not surprised. All of Amphoreus haa been pretty bad. I'm actually worried Dahlia will be written to be just as bland.
>>4490587Hopeful they will remember she is supposed to be more on the villain side, I guess they wont.
>>4490589They'll give her a tragic backstory and make her a misguided villain like Hoyo always does.
>>4490577Issue is Amphoreus has not changed it's writing style once. Every patch is up here, talk to x, go there, talk to y, boss fight. They add in a couple of forgettable cutscenes and annoying puzzles in between and that's the story. There's no time to let things breath. No time to let interesting things sink in. Stelle sees Fugue again and who cares we need to move on to the next thing. Stelle finally meets The Herta and who cares story needs to keep moving. Why bother fleshing out a character when you can tell their whole story in 1 single flashback segment in a patch. Why have them grow a bond with Stelle and the Express when you can just say they have one (cough Bkack Swan cough Acheron cough all the CH cough cough). Why show and write an engaging story of how Stelle is this ultimate savior despite having no connection to the planet when you can just say she is. Why dive deeply into March's backstory that you've setup for years when you have future characters to shill for their upcoming banners. Why focus on March and Stelle's organic relationship when it's better to desperately try to force Cyrene x Stelle on players even though a vast majority of people don't ship it. Amphoreus has been a boring mess. Like Penacony it has good ideas that are executed terribly
>>4490577Cyrene's dialogue is so cringe. It's like the writers were self inserting while making this story. It's like they've never talked to a woman a day in their life
Must be in the minority because I got a little emotional at the end, especially when the animated short started. We've been in this world for almost a year now and I'll be the first to admit the story was dragging, but I don't think any singular character was particularly underdeveloped with the exception of maybe Cerydra and Hysilens who had the disadvantage of being latecomers. Even got to hear from Bronya and Seele, if only for a minute. And I'm surprised no one mentioned Ruan Mei asking Herta to come over for a visit. Mixed feelings overall about Amphoreus but I'll definitely remember it (no pun intended)
>>4490664>Must be in the minorityOn /u/ maybe, which just seems to like being insufferable lately.
I liked Amphoreus, but what I wasn't expecting from this patch was to finish it liking the idea of Cyrenecest
>>4490664Yeah you really are in the minority >>4490678Sorry I'm not a hoyoshill. Fuck off loser. People are allowed to have an opinion
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>>4490863Even subconsciously holding each other while sleeping
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>>4490895>Jealous of childrenHelia you pathetic dyke
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They even managed to retcon out the last bit of yuri on this dogshit planetTruly dogshit after dogshit
>>4490956Jesus…
>>4490941>>4490942she's in awe of how symmetrical her boobs are
>>4490956I imagine they nuked it because of how blatant it was but also so that they can nuke the anaxa ship so it was mutual destruction.This planet was dogshit and i have no hope for this game.Even thi honkai impact chaoter where they alluded to mother daughte rrealtionshipsn had more yuri then this hsr garvageGoing full master love is no the solution to this
>>4490956That felt so forced. Like those anime with yuri undertones where the author adds in a male love interest solely because they don't want fans shipping the leading ladies together. That line was added solely to crush any yuri between them and nothing else. What's even weirder is how Hoyo doubles down on Mydei and Phainon almost every patch
>>4490977Because they can do yaoi as much as they want, hetfags will ignore and yumes will never be as annoying as the hetfags either>Oh wow there people shipping phainon and mydei? Whatever, I will still ship him with stelle>Oh wow there people shipping, unreleated female character that has nothing to do with mc? What the fuck is wrong with the devs fuck you I'm not supporting this woke shit trannys manage to ruin everything again
>>4490999I wonder if that's why we haven't seen Jeht again? Hetfags would boycott Hoyo over the mere idea of a female character liking Lumine romantically and Aether just as a friend. I really do hope we see Lumine's desert gf again.
>>4490589She became mentally ill from trauma after Acheron's attack, please understand>>4490722Same. It was so much better than Cyrene x TB
>>4491010What are the odds they will barely mention that? I can see them not bringing it up amd trying to make her threatening again. Only to hit us with a sad backstory and make her a misunderstood character. I just don't get why her banner is happening now. She has nothing to do with Amphoreus, Acheron hasn't been teased to come back next patch, and there's still more of Amphoreus to finish. Is she gonna be like Jade and Rappa where she's gonna just be filler. I feels like she's someone they just want to release and move on afterwards. Either that or they'll release her now and do the stupid thing where she'll matter patches later like Herta. I just hope whatever she's involved with has nothing to do with this shit planet.
>>4491037Next patch is about Firefly, maybe she will do something to her.
>>4490956Not really? A) Cerces x Mnestia, while perhaps the most explicitly textual pairing, given the lore references to them as a couple, was also the weakest? Like, one half of the pairing never even appears in the story and you're gonna focus on that over the actual couples? But also the discussion happening is about an in-universe book downplaying the relationship, when in the actual story we got Cerces verbally expressing love for Mnestia? I'm astounded you could misread a meta joke so thoroughly.And B) This same bit also sank the much-loathed hetslop pairing, given Anaxa saying:>"The only accurate bit is that me and Aglaea hate each other's guts, I do not give a shit about the rest."Y'all really love to complain about a game you don't even play off out-of-context screenshots, huh?
>>4491038Why though? Because it's her banner coming up?
>>4491044How does Hoyo's nut taste
Get a better line.
>>4491044Its crazy how you (I'm gonna assume you're the same one crying about people's conplaints) keep coming here whining about how people aren't in love with the Amphoreus story like you are. If you want to hear nonstop praising go to HSR's subreddit. Sorry people here will call out the bullshit as they see it.
>>4491046>>4491037Hoyo said they were going to revisit Penacony because they noticed the quest was rushed as fuck and they wanted to tie some loose ends and elaborate on some stuff. They are bringing Constance because she's also a memokeeper, even if an evil one.https://www.youtube.com/live/so1hAOvpmh0?si=Zcyk52mqKm3jPfUY&t=3053
>>4491044>>4491048Fuck off hetfag apologist
>>4491049Just be nice if the ones complaining actually, y'know, played the game? Kinda hard to take the complaints as anything but pointless, annoying bitching otherwise. "Oh but this is exactly why I /don't/ play that shitty game!" and then they describe something completely untrue or inaccurate. I come to /u/ for yuri not post after post of nonsense. Can't even call it bait when it's largely just a circlejerk.
>>4491052>"They sank the hetslop!">hetfag apologist?????
>>4491051Penacony wasn't rushed to me. For me it was more poorly told. It was long and had a lot of yapping but just not at the right places. Honestly I don't really care to go back. I also don't see the connection between her and Firefly. Its like the had to bs a plot reason for this to happen. Firefly has no real ties to Penacony nor does Constance so it doesn't make much sense for it to be in Penacony. I wish Hoyo would stop connecting characters to planets/worlds they have no connection with. While I will admit I skipped a lot of dialogue and was barely paying attention I was constantly wondering why Herta was on Amphoreus. It felt like a weird planet to tie her to. Also why are they turning Penacony into the place where old characters return randomly and join break teams. Its sounding like Constance will be Fugue 2.0
>>4491053>you don't agree with what I like so you don't play the gameDo retards actually believe this? Take this retarded mindset to reddit loser
>>4491056My issue with Penacony was its whole pseudo-intellectual thesis was just... stupid? "Why do we dream? So we can wake up." It's actually impressive what a meaningless platitude it is.>why Herta was on Amphoreus.Welt went to ask her for help, and then it turned out the entire plot was about her Aeon, Nous.
>>4491057You'd make a better point if people didn't constantly tout how they just skip everything.
>>4491053Why don't you go somewhere else. No one will miss you if you leave anon. If you're that mad just leave. You're acting like people are forcing you to read these comments and stay here.
>>4491060>then it turned out the entire plot was about her Aeon, Nous.See thats my issue with HSR. So much of it feels contrived at times. Like the plot is there to justify the banner rather than the banners coinciding with the plot. Its not Herta is there to deal with her Aeon. Its Herta is there so add in her Aeon to justify why Herta is there. I wish HSR wrote better reasons to justify a characters inclusion outside of they need a reason to justify why their banner takes place when it does. It reminds me of my issue with Genshin. How Varesa wasn't part of the Natlan story solely because her banner wasn't happening yet.
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>>4491069Its funny how the last element Lumine has to get is the one most of her girlfriends have. The cryo archon best watch out before she joins Lumine's cryo harem.
>>4491070Actually now that I say this I am slightly worried the whole "dead lover" theory will be true. Why else would Hoyo pair the Traveler with so many cryo ladies and make the cryo characters the only characters that are highly driven by their ideals and hold relationships in high regard. Most characters share traits with the archon they get their element from. Please Hoyo don't make the cryo archon het.
>>4491065The villain's entire motivation is about Nous, it's not just 'cause they wanted Herta there. Like that is the entire actual plot. Could make the argument that Amphoreus would've been better as an actual Greek Mythology-inspired world, instead of the god-killing computer program thing we got though.
>>4491069>>4491070I really hope that Lumine's Cryo Kit isn't as awful as her Hydro Kit.
>>4491071Definitely hoping that book turns out to be about her predecessor or something. A het Bronya would be just all kinds of wrong.
>>4491073I don't think thay disproves my point
>>4491075Where there's a Bronya there's a Seele so who knows maybe we'll get a Sara x Ei situation and her story is about finding new love. Or maybe she's their child wanting revenge. Has it been confirmed cryo archon is a Bronya expy?
>>4491078>Has it been confirmed cryo archon is a Bronya expy?No, just a couple strong points of speculation. For one, Ei and Mavuika. More compellingly, there's a voice that speaks in Arlecchino's character demo that most people seem to think is Hanser in Chinese, and Kana Asumi in Japanese. A mysterious voice using Bronya's VAs connected to a Harbinger? People drew a quick conclusion.
>>4491077Nta, I kinda understand your point, but using Herta as your example doesn't really help. The Erudition elements of Amphoreus were simulated universe related stuff, so it makes sense to me that because they're building off that they would also use that chance to introduce her real body. If you were to use Evernight instead your point would feel better, as the decision to finally start scratching the surface of the children of anasrava plot near the end wasn't well timed. Yeah the remembrance stuff is also important to Amphoreus as well, but Herta didn't feel as forced. If Lycurgus twist of being Zandar was decided after he was introduced then it would feel like plot bending over for her banner.
>>4491084But she has no personal connection to any of the characters. Hell the story barely cared to create a genuine bond between her and most of the characters. So yeah I disagree that there was any need to bring Herta to Amphoreus and the story needed to create a need for her. She was basically Acheron, nothing more than a plot device to beat the villain.
>>4491089To further my point Herta doesn't grow as a character, no one treats seeing real Herta as a big deal, and by the end none of this will matter to Herta next time we see her. I do agree that Evernight was also a waste, but I can't sit here and say Herta was there to do nothing but help characters get from point A to point B for a majority of her appearance. I'd even argue at times her parts hurt the pacing of the CH sections.
>>4490577Ah the irony of HSR. A game about characters traveling the galaxy and being free but the devs are more focused on the destination than the journey.
The whole computer thing with greek shit that actually had nothing to do with greek at all was just mismatched, I will give it for them that since the start this result was super obvious with the butterflys doing emojis. Also i'm kinda tired of the whole credits thing, no matter what lore reason it has it got boring already, please stop.
>>4491100I wish they didn’t do one thousand endings. It made me feel like I waa watching Return of the King. Everytime I thought the story was done it just kept going. Was there really a need to do another "let's the ending of this story" sequence towards the end? And yeah the credits thing is getting old, especially when you can't skip it and there's more story after it.
Y'know, the ironic thing is, I think I'd like Cyrene as a waifu more if they hadn't gone all-in on the literal bride theme.Like she's actually well-characterized in 3.6 and 3.7, and then the reveal about how the "Two Cyrenes" resolves helps make sense of her fixation on Stelle, who's also characterized enough that I could actually buy them as a ship, not just a self-insert thing... but then the bride shtick makes it feel like it's being crammed down my throat and it just puts me off.They really shoulda just given us smol Cyrene.
>>4491091It will matter when we get a random event in 4.X about Herta fulfilling her promise to try some of a Ruan Mei's baked desserts
>>4491140You mean an artifact depicting it, I doubt we will get any follow up in the story.
>>4491140>everything in Star Rail only matters months laterAnd that's why the writing has fallen off since Penacony
>>4491106The ship is written really poorly. There's no chemistry and there's really no point to it other than "incels want their waifu". Honestly Castorice made more sense. A touch starved woman finally being able to touch someone but having to give that up to save the world makes for far more interesting doomed yuri.
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>>4491106Cyrene would've worked if Firefly didn't exist and if they didn't setup Castorice having that roll already. Making another character that's shipteased with the TB just made the list of characters shipped with them way too big. She's essentially just Firefly 2.0 that made Castorice's development with Stelle pointless, caused March's relationship with Stelle to be put on the back burner, and will be overshadowed by Firefly herself next patch doing the same "I love TB" gimmick but with more personal connection. Like that one anon said they should've went the selfcest route with her.
>>4491163All very true. Like, I think they should have focused more on Cyrene as being a platonic bond. Both to avoid oversaturation, and also because the crux of the relationship is initially bonding with Mem, and it's just kinda weird suddenly having your cute fluffy pink fairy companion be pushed as your wife.
>>4491203I'm just worried that they pushed her being Stelle's waifu so hard that whenever and if ever they meet again they will have no story to give her. Firefly has her own plot and story besides being Stelle's libe interest. If Stelle ever goes back to Amphoreus are they gonna write Cyrene as being nothing more than the loving wife glad her lover finally came back home. I hope now that her banner is out they massively tone down the waifu bait part of her character and make her and Stelle platonic friends. Either that or they can at least have the balls and go all in on the ship and have her kiss Stelle.
>>4491078What do you mean Sara x Ei situation?
>>4491379That the cryo archon has a extremely loyal and gay subordinate (Seele expy) like how Sara is for Ei. That way we can just ship them together instead of any possible dead lover bs. This all under the impression that she will be a Bronya expy
>>4491425If they're gonna make cryo archon an expy, wouldn't Cocolia be a more likely choice?
>>4491504Probably. I'm just going off the rumors that it'll be a Bronya expy. Have we ever gotten a playable Cocolia before? I don't play HI3
>>4491527Considering the game implies the cryo archon had a husband/lover so far (i mean they an make shit up at any point to change it but still) if they wouldnt make her a Bronya expy unless they are suicidal or make it so Seele is the person closest to her instead of some random npc.
>>4491913Poor Jahoda can't catch a break. Hopefully she stashed her videos wuth Ineffa well
Low effort koikatsu (?) Acheswan video I found around, but better than nothing https://files.catbox.moe/q1o2ax.mp4
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People being mad at Rita being into small Dudu is so funny because idiots pretend they are offended while we already seen how adorable she finds small dudu and how super into her Rita isPeople legit sacred of small woman.These are some weak yuri shippers or just rage baiters
>>4493512Unfortunately western "yuri" "fans" consist of mentally ill retards 99% of the time, and what you described is the direct result of that
>>4493592What the fuck are you talking about? You sound like a redditor
>>4493512The "discourse" around my OTP has freshly demonstrated to me just how stupid online fandom can be.We must make more onee-loli content to scare them off.
>>4493619Your OTP is just lame
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>>4493512Most likely ragebaiters. Most people don't care about age gap yuri
That escalated quickly...
>>4493831>implying Kafka didn't already diddle her as a kid
Just finished the new chapter and it was peak romance. Now I want to see an AU of sentropy adopting leylah and having a wholesome domestic life
Gosh, there were so many great moments
I was himejoshing out too hard when I first saw this so I didn't even notice Senadina was just floating there lol
>>4493837Sex with Kafka was so great even with amnesia Stelle is still simping.
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