Previous Thread>>4449414>Main places to read fics:https://archiveofourown.org/https://www.fanfiction.net/>An ancient archive of fics compiled and shared by a kind anon (note that this is not a curated collection, just a very large archive of works)https://mega.nz/#F!oaphAAaZ!6FnZFfH2f-Vx5d9A47pSow(this link is still down, truly these are our darkest days)Post links to fics and discuss them and fanfiction in general. Link fics you like, your own stuff, it's all good as long as it's yuri.
Following a very minor pairing is rough because any new fic feels amazing but also is terrifying because if the author stops updating you go back to having literally nothing to read.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/32611219/chapters/80895433This is good. There's not a lot of touhou fic writers anymore who really try to write romance rooted in the setting anymore, there's way more mindless fluff. But this one targets what I'm looking for well.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/43372042/chapters/109027072It's not the most well written story ever, there's no sex, and I don't even watch vtubers, but this is somehow my personal favorite fic I've read this year. It just hit right in the sweet spot. Very cute.
>>4489602>Kaguya/Reisenholy crackBut I guess I'll check it out.
>>4489495I find a fanfiction about my favorite Yuri pairing from the 2000s and it's full of modern references.
>>4491735The best is when it's something like a strawberry panic fic and everyone has smartphones.
>re: Alone, TogetherThe chapter where Shego starts talking about her dad weirded me the hell out, why did the author write this and why is everyone praising it? Closed the chapter so fast. I don't want to keep reading. But the summary was already a red flag, so it's my fault for ignoring it.
>>4491989The romance is decent when you look past the stuff tied to Kim's setting. People are desperate for super heroine/villainess yuri and it's like one of the only decent ones and the reason it works is because they are removed from the Kim Possible setting mostly which tends to be insufferable and not mature enough for a prolonged yuri fic. I found the fic and characters get worst the moment they are no longer 'Alone Together'. It was still readable and it's near the end so I suffered through it for the happy ending.magnetism is another example of what I mean - the stuff with KiGo there is solid in the beginning when it's mostly Kim and Shego interacting but every other character and plot forcing their way gets in the way of what the readers are there for which is KiGo. You are trying to get a mature romance from a children's cartoon and it just struggles the moment you don't have them 'alone together' anymore.I enjoyed the beginning of And You and I and it goes right off a cliff the moment the two of them stop interacting as much 3 chapters in and the other characters force their way in. I'm here to watch two girls flirt, seduce, fight, and fuck each other. Sometimes all the same time.I think this is why I never got into the Supercorp ship - Lena can't go hand to hand with Supergirl ever. Where as if Kim ever gets even a mild powerup Shego just gets even hornier since now she can go all out but otherwise can still get off to just how competent Kim is in a fight.
>>4492079>I'm here to watch two girls flirt, seduce, fight, and fuck each otherMe too. Any reccs?
>>4491989>why was a hero-turned-villain character being humanized given a catalyst for having betrayed her seemingly good family and turned to villainyAnon.>>4492079>Lena can't go hand to hand with Supergirl ever. Where as if Kim..There are fics where they are relatively on par. The ones where Lena builds a lex-style suit to be a vigilante or try for peace through domination or gets harun-el'd into being a pseudo Kryptonian. The AU ones where she's a vampire or fae, or there's different context, like the ones set in the harry potter universe.Power scaling isn't the problem here though; you're looking for a foeyay villain and hero setup in a ship whose basic form has no actual villain and doesn't depict them as really being foes. They aren't similar ships to begin with.
>get comment on a twincest fic expressing their disapprovalI think I'm just going to turn off comments from now on.
>>4492288Reply with a simple "lol" and nothing else ever again.It will make them mad, which is funny.
>>4492288Don't let one shithead discourage you. It's your story and if they don't like it, they can kindly fuck off. Also, you miss the nice comments.
>>4492288Ironically that exact attitude is a large part of what makes incest shipping so good.
>>4491773It's better than Shizuru and Natsuki scrolling through Tiktok.
>>4492288pretty sure if you would post it on spacebattles they would nuke you or something
>>4492574rare spacebattles W.
currently brainstorming some darittany ideas
>>4489495Something Aoi and Chie related but I can't quite put it together.
>>4489495What are the best Life Is Strange fanfics
>>4493017This is an all time masterpiece https://archiveofourown.org/works/6164365My favorite ongoing fic but updates are incredibly slow https://archiveofourown.org/works/50806108
>>4493021>https://archiveofourown.org/works/6164365>Oodles of gay love but no smut ya pervertsALAS
>>4493022Poor Yuric
>>4493017gawd damn..
>>4489495Any good Hibiki and Miku fanfiction worth reading?
>>4491735>>4492531Do other people actually care about this? I would understand being annoyed about anachronisms if the fic was set in the 60s or 70s, but I feel like the modern high school setting is just "modern high school" and it doesn't really make any difference if its 2000s or 2010s. Especially if the canon has magic in it to begin with. I certainly am not going to care or even notice if an author accidentally includes smartphones in a fic from a show that came out in the flip phone era.
>>4494114I don't care about it. Media written to be contemporary becoming inadvertently historical over time isn't what I need from fic. Like, Batman and Superman aren't still living in the mid 1900s.
These threads and most ao3 f/f fandoms feel dead these days.
>>4494143It's over, the ao3 trannyshitters won. F/F doesnt even exist as a searchable category anymore unless you filter specifically by tags that may or may not be included anyway.
>>4494143Can't speak for f/f fandom as a whole, but I think /u/ as a whole, including these threads obviously, became way slower after 4chan came back online after the april hack.
>>4494143If you want to find active AO3 fandoms, you should ask "what are zoomers on twitter into?" Hololive, Mihoyo, Project Sekai, K-Pop, etc. all have active F/F fandoms. They're all fucking awful, but at least they're active.>>4494157Using AO3 without the blacklist userscript is masochism
>>4494143Caitvi got like 10,000 fics this year. Most of the regular long-standing fandoms got a few hundred, Wenclair, Togachako, the House of the Dragon ship, and that random Harry and Luna's moms ship that showed up last year all got a thousand or so, there were a bunch of new Gelphie fics, Agatha/Rio got like 4,000. Lightcannon or whatever got a fair number. Don't be dramatic, these threads are always slow.>>4494157You also stop being dramatic. Outside of a handful of fandoms this isn't really a problem. Most of the time I don't even make use of the exclusion filter and it's still a rarity to run into. Obviously still shitty when it it's untagged and shows up out of nowhere, but it's not a common thing.
I love unhinged AUs so much. Like yeah make Elsa a German soldier and Anna British, make Kamishirasawa Keine a socialist, make Taylor Hebert a time traveling overlord or whatever. I'm all for it. Especially when the story is so intricate you can tell the author has spent years obsessing over the subject.
Must say I am very surprised that KPDH's poly pairing is almost twice as popular as the main het (semi canon) pairing on AO3.
poly is just cope cuckoldry
>>4494691I polyed your mom with your other mom last night nerdsit.
>>4494798>I sat in the cuckchair while a couple-in-love were being intimate with eachother
I've been writing my fanfic, it's my first ever one, but the problem is that I fear that em dashes will make people think I'm using AI...
>>4494984Just start the story with your main character monologuing about her favorite racial slurs, then the readers can be sure ChatGPT didn't write it. But in seriousness, it's not worth worrying about. AI doesn't own em dashes.
>>4494986I'll keep that in mind then. I'm a bit worried that people won't like it because im a big fan of slow burn and so my main characters don't even meet until the third chapter in the fanfic. The first two chapters are just establishing one of the characters and her history.
>>4494987It's your fanfic, you can write it however you want, if you like slow burn and buildup then do that, don't forget there are fanfics longer than the Bible out there.
I hate these artstation scammers. Makes me want to delete any generic-sounding guest comment before they start asking for my discord.
>>4494993Thank you. You give me a lot of confidence to finish
>>4494157I exclude all variations of futa, trans, gp whatever and there are STILL fics with troonery that manage to slip through. Hate it
>>4494984I find this funny because if fandoms weren't so extremist in their views, more people would be willing to admit their use of AI, tagging it properly, resulting in people who want to avoid it being able to do so effectively... and writers not having to 'live in fear' of being accused.I was reading a couple of Wenclair fics which I'm pretty sure were written with AI... the dialogue is very telling and the constant repetition is kind of wild. I don't have much experience with GPT but with Claude it has a certain 'pattern', if you will, for its writing if you don't give any futher instructions.And there are levels to AI use. You can, for example, just ask it to check for grammar errors. You can ask it what it thinks you should improve and you yourself write it again. You can ask it to write everything (the one I think is the worst use if not tagged).Don't be afraid to write, use modern tools at your disposal or not. I would say remember to have fun! but sometimes writing is hell.>>4494157While I kinda get where you are comming from if you do what >>4495026 does it's very rare when trans stuff it's not properly tagged. So you hate what, just reading for a couple of seconds a summary? Being reminded of their existence for a few seconds? I usually just browse F/F excluding all other categories + g!p and trans and I'm safe.
>>4495037Chatgpt has a lot of writing tells too. It also struggles with becoming repetitive and doesn't really do a good job expressing character's voices. Everyone just kinda reads the same like they're all the same person.
>>4494993Bible is a measly 800k words. Long by fic standards but I've read numerous longer ones with less incest.
>>4495037>Being reminded of their existence for a few seconds? I wish they didn't, exist that is
>>4495037>waaah will somebody pwease think about those poow UwU AI users persecuted by le ebil fandom extremists who ask them to stop doing a bad thing
>>4495041I'd take a 800k incest fic.
>>4495038>Everyone just kinda reads the same like they're all the same person.That's just a bad writer thing ask me how I know
>>4495209Yeah it's not a very good writer but I'll bite, how do you know, lol
>>4495214
>>4495223It happens....I'm worried about the same thing once I start writing my other character. This is my first fanfic im very nervous and keep slacking on it because im already worried
https://archiveofourown.org/works/59966374/chapters/165063445First few chapters, rest is kinda meh
>>4495048Well, I wish I could rewire my brain to enjoy M/M or het since they have way more works for me to enjoy, but you've gotta focus on what you can control and not be mad about what you can't. Or not, do what you want.>>4495049Sure, I too prefer to read something that isn't AI-made, but currently I have to find out 30k words deep that the author started letting AI write more than they do themselves, maybe because they're tired of writing, maybe they have run out of ideas, who cares? and they won't tag it because of witch hunters who are scared of a tool that, while I understand why you're so against it, isn't going anywhere until they start losing billions and upping the price to recoup costs reducing prompts and the easy access we have now.>>4495225Remember, you aren't a professional writer, so don't be so hard on yourself. Strive to be better, but don't be paralyzed by the fear of writing something bad. You can always sleep on it and improve it later! But it needs to exist first. Also, if you're curious, you can look up most popular fics (kudos + views + comments) of various fandoms to find out that sometimes they aren't even well written, they're just entertaining in their own way.
>>4495241>witch huntersI'll never not be amused by the olympic levels of mental gymnastics sloptards' have to go through to paint themselves as victims of some persecution.
>>4495241The world would be a better place if AI fags were rounded up and put in extermination camps
>>4495323Based.
>>4495236>warhound kink worming its way into actual fandomsA bizzzare thing to see
>>4491735I had this on a KiGo fic recently one of them made fun of reddit for some reason.
>>4495330What can i say, Warhound was hot.Can't say the same for 80% of the stories it spawned
>>4495785My personal (probably incorrect) theory is that people writing the Human Domestication Guide stuff eventually wanted to write more mean-spirited sci-fi petplay, so they latched onto it. And since HDG is a majority forcefem fetish setting with sprinkles of pure yuri, you get the end results.
>>4495787>mean-spirited sci-fi petplayThat's exactly what I want to read, but every time I try to find it I just see Human Domestication Guide stuff
>>4494691monotard seething
>>4495330People lack originality
>really enjoying a longfic I've found>get to the latest chapter >author apologizes for the delayed upload and that he's going to become a father soonIt's over. Beyond over, even.I should really get into the habit of checking the author's notes on the latest chapter before getting too invested.
>>4495977What rustles your jimmies about a scenario your described, exactly?
>>4496031>Last updated: 2019
>>4495977I do that as well as control+F synonyms of penis.Saves me from reading, sometimes, multiple tens of thousands of words of buildup and foreplay just to get flashbanged with the graphic description of Emily's throbbing erection
>>4496059Damn, understandable.
>>4495977>>4496059I don't know if this is a controversial take, but I actually don't really mind a longfic that never got finished as long as it's decently enjoyable. It's rough in like a smaller ship/fandom where you only have a handful of fics and the discontinuation means you have nothing else to read, but if it's from a larger pairing then you read it, enjoy it, and reach the haiatus and it's more of a "well I wish there was more but time to go on to the next fic" thing.I think it helps that for a lot of fics there are a bunch of other natural ending points so the current "arc" not being resolved isn't a huge deal. If it starts off about angst and them pining after each other and then at 25/? they have worked it out and it's discontinued at 31 where its dealing with some larger story stuff, that's alright with me.
>>4496162For me it kinda depends but I can't really articulate on what. There are longfics I've read that had no ending that I was still satisfied with it and ones where I went full "That's fucking it?"I think your second point does ring true though. Because ultimately I'm in fics for the shipping 90% of the time if the focus couple are in a good spot by the time it drops off I'm usually good with it.
I really wish Ao3 would implement some sort of proper "primary pairing" delineation, because holy shit is it awful trying to find fics in fandoms that are ship-heavy.
>>4496190Would be the single best update to the filter they could make.
>>4496289No, that would be a tag blacklist
>>4496362That's just using exclusion. Having it be permanent is just a minor convenience, being able to actually tell what pairing a fic is about, or search for only fics ABOUT that pairing rather than fics that have the pairing tagged is significantly more helpful.
>>4496065I do the same. I hate stealth troons so much it's unreal.
>>4495053oh god i need this
>>4496364Can't you use the otp:true search argument? Or do you mean something else?
>>4491989Holy shit Alone, Together mention. The pre-return chapters are my all-time favourite fanfic chapters for Kigo. Did that postapocalyptic survival roadtrip story even before shit like The Walking Dead or The Last of Us made it so commonplace in media. Why are the two parts so incongruent with each other? Did the author change or something? Post-return chapters were so weirdly written, out of character, boring... I felt like I had whiplash. As for the dad molesting Shego backstory shit I guess the author probably either had some shit they wanted to work out and included it in the story or needed a reason for Shego to spazz out during a sexual encounter because trauma equals drama.
>>4496640Not that anon and haven't read it in more than a decade, but loved the post-return parts too. They had to reconcile so much oddness while being in love with each other... I should get back into reading Kigo, though I'm not sure how much of it will hold up
>>4496640>>4496731>Alone TogetherHow can you like this crap? The characters are so removed from OG it's like reading about author's OCs wearing same name tags as Kim and Shego. I don't get it.
>>4496742>The characters are so removed from OGHow so?
Are there any RWBY fanfics where Weiss's character is more interesting than "rich and sassy, maybe her dad slapped her a few times". I loved Henceforward for giving us edgy Weiss. It seems every fanfic tries to make Ruby way more interesting than everyone else but I just don't care.
>>4491989>why is everyone praising it?>uploaded 2006well, i read it when i was 11 years old and probably so were a lot of people
>>4497605You're gonna have to give us more than that sis
>>4497605It's been a while, but I really liked the Dissonance Trilogy. It's old enough that Winter is the younger sister, and Weiss has an interesting relationship with her, and later on Weiss is really put through the wringer as she takes control of the SDC.If you liked the edge in Henceforward, that's probably up your alley.
>>4496522Stealth troons are worst but sometimes they just use of of the seventeen hundred retarded tumblerite words for "woman with penis" instead of futa or trans like a normal person i want to kill them with a large rock>>4495977>beginning chapters>authors notes are jokes, discussion and thanks for engagement>almost caught up>fours authors notes in a row start off by apologising for the wait
>>4497605Maybe look for non-WR fics? I feel like the pairing leans into those characterizations.
Anyone have any WoW or Baldur’s Gate III fic recommendations?
>>4497708>BG3https://archiveofourown.org/works/50328562/chapters/127145230>WoWhttps://archiveofourown.org/works/18133832/chapters/42875552https://archiveofourown.org/works/27649927/chapters/67656454https://archiveofourown.org/works/17266448/chapters/40605044https://archiveofourown.org/works/29256387/chapters/71842140These are two ongoings I'm enjoying:https://archiveofourown.org/works/72226766/chapters/188037061https://archiveofourown.org/works/44424487/chapters/111737914?style=disable
>>4497642Perfect, thanks
https://archiveofourown.org/works/29797347/chapters/73304715https://archiveofourown.org/works/54464479/chapters/137975782https://archiveofourown.org/works/59691328/chapters/152244940https://archiveofourown.org/works/38419327/chapters/96014170https://archiveofourown.org/works/39151572/chapters/97951101https://archiveofourown.org/works/63181789/chapters/161817328
I got this unhinged comment the other day. I'm guessing that they misread "Kissing" in the tags as "Pissing" or maybe they just forgot to take their meds.
>>4497851It's okay if you write piss fiction, anon. We won't judge you more than is appropriate.
>>4497761God bless you anon
>>4494407Is it a browser extension or something more complicated? >>4497653I am still triggered from the first time this happened to me. Just reading a Elsanna fic and bam out of nowhere, there was the girldick on Elsa and the tags were just F/F. I need a anti-troon blacklist. Which tags do you exclude?
>>4498013gock, gip, gp, g!p, !gp girlcock, gurlcock, girlpenis, female cock, lady cock, fempenis.Yuri is usually a safe bet. Words such as 'femme' and 'butch' are big red flags.Overuse of the word 'Lesbian' in the tags and description raises suspision, the F/F tag alone should clearly convey the fact that its about lesbians, why do you feel the need to reinforce it?
>>4498125Seems like a lot of the best Signalis fics went on hiatus several months to a year back. This was the one fandom I was actually following a ton of fics in.
>>4498130Its a single player game with not that much of a plot to it, 90% of the world is extrapolated by fanart and fanfic. There's isn't a lot you ca latch on to once you get bored of the visuals. You finish it, have your phase of inspired creativity and then move on, pretty normal
>>4498013You need to install a userscript extension such as Tampermonkey, then add two scripts. It's very easy, takes <5 minutes then you never need to manually exclude tags ever again: https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/3579-ao3-saviorI use this as my blacklist, and add to it whenever I discover a new synonym for girldick that has slipped past the filter:['*has a penis*', '*has a dick', 'Futanari*', '*Alpha/Beta/Omega*', '*Alpha/Omega*', 'Trans *', 'Transgender*', '*trans-*', 'Transfem*', 'Girl Penis', '*dickgirl*', '*titfuck*', '*breeding*', 'Penis In Vagina Sex', 'Girl with a dick', 'Alpha!*', 'Omega!*', '*G!P*']
>>4498125Thanks, I will add them to the blacklist. Yes, what is unclear about F/F? But maybe that is to be expected from someone who can't tell women and men apart. >>4498162That sounds like even I could manage it. Together with >>4498125 tags, this should kill most of the troon fics. Thank you.
any dark xena fics? the darker the better.
>you are now reliving your memories of 2005
>>4498590I was shitting in diapers
>>4498590Auntie please don't I'll be good
>>4498590I was late to the party. I didn't even watch Kannazuki no Miko on Youtube (or I think Vimeo) until 2008-2009.
>>4498590>I like this place, it's dark and warm and comfy. I hope nothing happens to make me leave.>Holy shit what is that light>Holy fuck what is my chest doing> What is happening> AAAAAAAAAAAAA>"Congrats anon-mama, it's a girl"
>>4498590>lmao, where did you get these hilarious pictures?>4chan? what's that?
>>4498125Retard really thinks femme and butch are red flags. I hate males pretending to understand lesbian fiction the most.
>>4497848Use your words anon. Nobody is clicking on random links.
I know it's nearly impossible to get anything out if these threads unless it's fics of some het TV show or sci-fi story nobody ever heard about, but lets give it a shot anyway...Anybody read any good Silksong fanfics? Preferably Hornet/Lace stuff, but I'm open to other pairings as long as its yuri focused and avoids any het or bishittery.It's the biggest game of the year with a huge amount of fics that even date back to pre-release. I just need some closure after that perfect set-up for post game relationship building.
>>4498938Erm sorry it was my *lived experience*. Getting flashbanged by cocks in stories tagged like this>>4498939Sorry anon-sama, here, take this Queen:https://archiveofourown.org/works/29797347/chapters/73304715>40k, two ladies get sent to a backwater pictureesque planet to train up a local garrison, and there's only one tiny homehttps://archiveofourown.org/works/54464479/chapters/137975782>40k, slashfic, of the RT gamehttps://archiveofourown.org/works/59691328/chapters/152244940>40k, slashfic smut.https://archiveofourown.org/works/38419327/chapters/96014170>40k, ambassador getting it on with the pilot of a big robot, very sweet and touching but mostly smut.https://archiveofourown.org/works/39151572/chapters/97951101>Vtm, young vampire accidentally gets blood bonded to an elder who gets very controlling and protective of her, slowburn with occasional smut.https://archiveofourown.org/works/43766215/chapters/110056645>Signalis, tragic romance
>>4498962>Erm sorry it was my *lived experience*.Well, she just recently read a story with the same tags and didn't get cockbanged, so stop being racist, you chud.
>>4498962Anon, you slow insanely useless bitch, just because some idiot added tranny or futashit to a work that was tagged with normal lesbian terms doesn't mean the fucking terms are red flags. By that fucking logic the "lesbian" tag is a red flag, considering how often retards add dicks to stories with that tag. Get out of here.
>>4498942https://archiveofourown.org/works/71470941/chapters/186031891It's not done yet, but this is one of the more promising ones. It's not just smut or written like a middle schooler's theater club script that is.
>>4499402What's your beef with theater kids?
>>4499422Hollow Knight is doing an incredible balance act between faux-Shakespearean dramatic and very quirky writing. It works in the game, because it is used sparingly and doesn't need to carry the whole experience. Once you have to turn the game's style into a full on text experience it can very easily descend into either purple prose or something that feels completely out of character.I think the fanfic I shared is in the tolerable zone.
>>4499468Hornet feels pretty OOC in this to me.
>>4497761I'm getting weird vibes from In Pursuit. The abundance of double spaces and correctly spelt words that are similar to but clearly not of the intended meaning (for example, finding a tomb in a desk drawer), makes me think that there's been a lot of cutting and pasting and autocorrecting going on. I'm probbly reading too much into it tho.
>>4500755Or they just wrote it on a phone.
>>4500759i kneel if true
>>4500761Just a guess because write a lot of my never posted fics in google docs on my phone because it's the easiest thing to use lying in bed, and I also run into those same issues: autocorrect for words that are uncommon, like tome because mobile autocorrect thinks it knows better and double spaces from several different sources (like tapping a predictive word and forgetting that it'll auto-add a space acter).If your intended implication was that it's edited AI, I think that's very unlikely. The story in general feels a bit too specifically written.
>>4500765>AINo, I wasn't going that far. The text doesn't feel very AI-ish. Phoneposting is something that didn't even occur to me but does explain the vibe.
Never been into HP, but I just discovered that Hermione/Bellatrix is a huge ship with tons of age-gap whump fanfics, which is my favorite thing. Does anyone have some recs in that vain? Preferably ones where Hermione and Ron have never been together at any point. I'm not familiar with the fandom at all, just don't want to get jumpscared by het in the middle of a 500k word fic.
>>4501445Someone posted this one a few threads ago:https://archiveofourown.org/works/27299614/chapters/66699406I thought it was good but all of the Bellatrix beating up/torturing Hermione stuff was in flashbacks exclusively, so you might not enjoy it.
>>4501445I wish Luna Lovegood had been a lesbian. She just has that gay weird girl vibe to her.
>>4501445I was obsessed with "These Gilded Chains We Wear" when it was actively updating and it did a lot to stoke my love for age gap femslash. It's over 10 years old now and I actually have no idea if it ever finished (I stopped reading when it was still a WIP) but I'm pretty sure it's the most popular fic for the ship. It was pretty huge when I was into HP back then and I just looked and seems like it has a lot of fanworks for it too (picrel is fanart for it). Does unfortunately have some Ron in there at the start, but I remember nothing about him in that fic so I must've skipped past his parts when I was reading.
>>4501445Always happy to recommend my personal favorite, which also includes some other side f/f ships.https://archiveofourown.org/works/26815408/>Preferably ones where Hermione and Ron have never been together at any point. I'm not familiar with the fandom at all, just don't want to get jumpscared by het in the middle of a 500k word ficJust as a forewarning for the pairing in general, because a pretty big portion of fics are usually post-war, a lot are going to have that. It's like Kigo where a lot of fics take Kim and Ron as a thing that didn't pan out or is actively moved past. That said, I don't think I've ever encountered a Bellamione fic which suddenly had het in the middle, the het is basically always that Hermione was comphet'ing or otherwise confusing platonic attachment in the heat of the moment, as a starting circumstance for her finding something real with Bellatrix.
>>4501489>that explanationthat's a good way to put it, as a HP fan I didn't start shipping Bellamione until that one part and it's way towards the end of the series