Damn, is this one of the most overt major playable character relationships to date in a hoyo game without being outright stated canon, since Hi:3?Oh uh, Hoyo general too, I guess
>>4573213This has to be the gayest ship Hoyo has ever made outside of HI3
>>4573213This actual game footage?
>>4573245Constipation face
>>4573276Yep.
>>4573239There's that one yaoi ship in HSR but as far as yuri goes, yeah pretty much
>>4573244Is there anything in game with them or did another Elysia steal all the spotlight again?
>>4573291They even released these art pieces for them
>>4573293The gay AU fanfics basically write themselves
>>4573293>>4573294People are already making fanart of this
>>4573213its not gonna get better than this, but, im honestly ok wit hthat at this point. That was really sweet
>>4573304The only positive is Sandrone is still in Snezhnaya so we might still see more of them.
Thoughts on Tsaritsa?>original character, neither a Bronya or a Elysia expy>had a son (it's unknown how he has been "conceived")>that theory about her being the lover of the 3rd descendant
>>4573312I like her design, and I'm interested to see where her character goes. Hopefully there's more to her crusade than just angst over her dead kid and husband.If nothing else, a few people seem to have latched onto the tension between her and Ronova, which I am all for.
>>4573330I'm getting Ei vibes from her. That they'll brush all the evil shit she's caused and has allowed to happen because she's tragic and misunderstood
>>4573334I mean, that's not hard? Hell it's basically already been done. SHE technically hasn't done anything besides enable shitheads to run rampant in pursuit of her nebulous goals, which look increasingly valid the more we learn about Celestia's nonsense. And even she denounced Dottore when he went too far, and the narrative already kinda regards everyone else as having been forgiven for their more extreme actions in her name.
>>4573334Not the player, but I thought the story pretty much treats all Fatui beyond one or two designated assholes as the good guys at this point, making me wonder why this whole fuss about not letting them get the MacGuffins was even about beyond years-long padding.
>>4573344It feels like they simply didn't want to write the old Harbringers anymore. Columbina and Sandrone are so detached from their early portrayals it's amazing.
>>4573342Yet she allows the Fatui to use child soldiers and be absolute shitheads to everyone
>>4573334>>4573342>>4573428Accountability or any moral enforcement was already completely thrown out the window way back in like 1.1 when Tartaglia was not just allowed to get away with what was essentially terrorism and deliberately attempting to sacrifice an entire city fully of civilians, but actively ENDORSED narratively to the point that the game had the traveler decide it was necessary to defend his fucking reputation and "good name" so that his little brother wouldn't be disappointed in him or know he was a shitbag. Celestia conflict aside, it was clear from the start that any sense of morality or justice for shit that has been done was going to be entirely arbitrary and just whimsically decided based on "do we want this person who has done a bunch of fucked up stuff to be playable".
>>4573344Honestly the Harbingers stopped being interesting threats the moment Scaramouche became playable. That's when they ditched their old plans with them in favor of making them all likeable. It works with some of them like Scara, Columbina, and Sandrone, but characters like Arle suffer massively because that evil side is what added so much to her character (for me at least). >>4573416This has to be ragebait. A very poor attempt at rapegbait.
>>4573442What's crazy is the game still likes to portray grunt fatui members as irredeemable villains. I've always thought it was weird that fatui enemies still attack Harbingers. Genshin should add in a mechanic after Tsaritsa comes out where fatui enemies don't attack you if you have a fatui member in the party.
>>4573344To be fair, they never really did? Like, Venti telling us just recently he didn't put up a fight out of concern for collateral damage feels like a bit of a retcon, but I'm inclined to believe it's actually not given Zhongli gave his away as part of a deal, Ei gave hers to Miko who gave it away without a second thought, Nahida also bargained hers away without much fuss, and Focalors only safeguarded hers because she needed it for a plan, and once that was done Neuvillette gave it up in a pretty one-sided deal. Mavuika's the only one who really put up a fight over it, and she likewise needed it for a world-saving plan, and when that was done she gave it away to Nahida like she was lending out a blender. So like, if Nahida hadn't needed it first, she probably would have given it away to the Fatui the next time one came knocking.The conflict with the Fatui has always been more over their means than the macguffins themselves. Those conflicts were always motivated by the Harbingers themselves being assholes with personal vendettas, but as people constantly criticize, those originally introduced as outright villains have their actions treated as water under the bridge, and the newer cast who were teased as being even worse had all that retconned as largely baseless rumors.
>>4573451I wonder when they decided to do all this retconning.
>>4573476Well, they started just kinda brushing the international criminal acts under the carpet as early as Tartaglia's playable debut, Scaramouche they pretty clearly had his whole redemption arc planned out, but they still kept up with the attempted villainous framing up until Arlecchino's release, so somewhere between the two of them I suppose.
After KiaMei for CNY and a whole team around BronSeele, I'm curious to see what they do with Leylah and Senadina. The last chapter felt as if they design them to be yet another Honk version of Madoka and Homura.Honestly I'm okay as long as the game doesn't EOS at this point and don't expect much.
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>>4573623I wonder if Paimon is getting sick because Tsaritsa cast some form of spell that impacts the Shades in Snezhnaya. Will the Asmoday theory come true?
>>4573946
The actual story content in genshin has even more yuri in it. Lynette trying to setup Citlali and Lumine for a private date is fun
>no more yao x eva in hsr due to reasons>this whole patch was SH shilling ....I dont think they SH are really interesting at all. or ever
>>4574425I have no idea what people see in them either. The only thing they have going for them is that old animatic trailer
>>4574425I think they keep going back to them because the SH are easy plot devices. Stelle is connected to them so there's no need to really create new relationships in story. Stelle hasn't said more than 5 words to Blade in the past, but since he's part of the SH they must've been close in the past so there's no need to develop that relationship. He's also close to Dan Heng and the rest of the Luofu. That's an easy way to develop multiple characters at once. Same with Firefly. Just make her a SH and that takes care of any need to develop her relationship with Stelle. Kafka is the only interesting one to me, which sucks since she appears the least out of all of them.
On another note anyone else notice the device on Sandrone's back turns faster when she sees Columbina's invitation? It only does that for Columbina. They made a unique SandBina animation for Sandrone.
>>4574425What's really uninteresting is SP Robin, which is nothing more than a glorified summer skin. They learned the worst quality from the Fate franchise
Hoyo ships them so hard
>>4574997Also looks like Arle is a shipper
After watching the HSR latest livestream I can't help but sit here and wonder why any of this is happening. I played the story and know why its happening but I don't get why I'm supposed to care that it's happening. I never played HI3 but I'm guessing Himeko was a pretty major character in the game before dying. In HSR she's been such a nothing character for so long I can hardly bring myself to care. Her interactions with Stelle have been limited, yet I'm meant to believe they are so close. Is it me or is HSR starting to feel forced in its plot? I think the story would be so much better if it was like R1999 and Arknights and told more stories away from the AE crew. They are all so boring. I think HI3 does this as well and tells stories outside of just Kiana. I'm kinda tired of the AE crew right now.
>>4575467Unironically the AE and SH are the worst factions in the game, but they're also the most popular (though its mostly just kafka and FF from the SH though)
>>4575469I feel likr Dan Heng and Himeko are the main popular ones from the AE. March is popular, but she's typical character popular. No one on the Express is touching Dan Heng in popularity unfortunately.
>>4575467I miss the 1.0 tone and plot style of the game, Belobog felt way more cohesive and engaging. Ever since then its felt like its just been word salad and metaphysical concepts and ideaslop
I still don't like modern Genshin gameplay (god the moon quest gameplay played like fucking ASS), but Sandbina's event was definitely cute. Could've been obviously better, the final part felt a little too abrupt, but alas. Also I don't.. actually I do very much want to know how much sex Lumine had to pay Citlali with when she was dragged away. If Citlali ever finds out about all the stuff on the moon.. she'll need to live witness Sandrone and Columbina making out to let that slide...
>>4574998>shippingBe real, she got cucked
>>4575602Not really. Arlecchino and Signora seemed to always enjoy watching Columbina and Sandrone>>4575589This might be an unpopular opinion but I don't like the Firefly route they went with for Citlali. Her whole character as become "I like Traveler", which feels out of place in Genshin. I do find it interesting that the characters ship teased with the Traveler the most happen to all be cryo characters. Citlali, Ayaka, and Shenhe are usually the most shipteased. Makes you wonder if that will play into Tsaritsa's story. >>4575564For me that was the last time that felt like Stelle's presence felt justified. Her first official trip with the crew and learning their purpose. Since then she's kind of just been there because she's the MC. Everything felt like Hoyo were just forcing reasons as to why Stelle is here. The forced flashback stuff with Cyrene, Firefly randomly being in Penacony at the exact same time as the Express just to force a connection between Stelle and someone on that planet, and now Nanook randomly showing up in 4.4 just so Stelle can be relevant. Genuine question if Himeko left the Express for awhile and did this story alone would anyone truly care that we aren't seeing the others?
>>4575624>I don't like the Firefly route they went with for Citlali.Personally I'm fine with it. If they keep doubling down on her in the future like with this event, it could mean fewer other girls being subjected to it in the future, leaving more room for great ships like Sandbina. Plus I just like Citlali the most out of any of the attempts they've made previously.>ShenheReally? Feel like I don't see much selfshipping with her compared to all the incest.>Makes you wonder if that will play into Tsaritsa's story.God I hope not. While it's a blessing I've basically only seen stuff of her with Lumine thus far, if that actually became a thing in-story it'd be insufferable.
>>4575624>alwaysI'm joking about years ago, before the rewrites, back when the two got shipped and the villains weren't a squad of friends
>>4575647I'm not talking about shipping with the Traveler. I'm saying 3 cryo characters are very waifu bait. It makes me nervous that Tsaritsa's whole character was I'm a widow and I live my dead husband. Its already become her whole character to the fandom. Also I've only seen like 3 images of her with Lumine. Ronova and Rhinedottir have more images with her from what I've seen. One last thing. For me personally I always liked Lumine with Ayaka the most. I felt like that was the most natural. Citlali isn't bad. It just feels like she went from 1 to 100 really fast randomly. She also feels like she caters to a certain part of the fandom.
on one hand I'm sad not many people know the extent of their relationship because most just spam through WQ dialogue (or don't do WQs at all), on the other hand I'm glad the text only aspect basically filters 99% of low IQs from giving their retarded opinions on Jeht.anyways go do her WQ series if you haven't already, it's the best questline in the game
>>4575695Its so good people want her to be playable. Its so good Hoyo kept it where she's a lesbian in love with Lumine in her latest appearance. Hoyo has not made a better WQ since that one.
>>4575467Honestly, even after all these years, it's just HI3 which really excites me. The last few patches really delivered, that was great.Yeah... Himeko was a HUGE deal. To this day, it's like you don't play the game until you see her animated short ingame.When I played HSR, Bronya and Seele felt so shallow compared to how I know them. It didn't take long for me to drop the game. Back then, this was right after release, you get that they reference another game as a hook. But now...? Baiting with Himeko now if she really stayed a nothing character all these years is kind of weak.
>>4575467I'm in the apparent minority on /u/ in that I largely like HSR's story, but even I have to admit that it feels like they're frontloading a lot. Like yeah, you've definitely got a point about Himeko; Planarcadia is positioning her as this focal character, shaking up and reimagining our understanding of her character, when we barely even had an attachment to the character as introduced? Her presence up until now thus feels pointless; she could have been introduced as a brand-new character on Planarcadia and nothing would change about her progression, given we're essentially only just now meeting her one way or the other.Or Amphoreus; much as I genuinely enjoyed the story and characters, it still strikes me as weird that they did this massive send-up to one of HI3's most beloved subplots and casts, as its second major update? It sorta has this stink of nostalgia-baiting desperation, which is sorta concerning for a game ostensibly still early in its life.
>>4576032Then theres Penacony. They really just brought in Acheron in just to get players to get hyped for more Raiden Mei. You could remove Acheron entirely and very little of the story would change. I'm also tired of HSR doing the whole story in a story thing. It becomes hard to not only follow the story but to invest in the characters when every character has their own story. Aventurine's story doesn't connect with Sunday's. Castorice's goal doesn't relate to Cipher's. Sparxie no story has no connection to Blade or Himeko. It just makes every patch feel like a reset and nothing outside of the main villain matter. What I like about ZZZ and Genshin is every character from a region all fight towards the same goal. Either that or all their stories connect in some way. Its still crazy to think just a few patches ago we were randomly fighting the Power Rangers. Now we're dealing with Himeko's tragic past. It doesn't flow well to me.
I gave up on HSR story when the devs kept writing things disrergarding what happened in the story, stuff like TB out of story connection with Acheron, TB acting like Fungue was this good friend we totally missed, Aventurine being your bro, Phainon your best friend, Cyrene your girlfriend that had lots of sweet moments with you offscreen etc, the game always tries to make TB have a good relationship with everyone, it's so tiring, can't we have some rivals, people that we genuine hate or just don't want to have much contact?
>>4576042The weird part about Aventurine is that they left off as enemies. Dahlia is set up as an enemy with Duke Inferno and that's just dropped. I agree with you on Tingyun. We never met the real version so seeing her again and they all act like nothing happened was so dumb. Robin will have the same issue. I know maybe in events they talk but in the main story that everyone actually plays they barely know each other. Really weird decision to pick her and not someone like Serval, who Stelle actually has a connection with.
My favorite is still DehyaDunya
>>4576042She's just the MC, and following classic self-insert gacha logic, everything has to revolve around her and by extension the player. The stories of every character are secondary to the possibility that they could all be part of your harem.
I heard Citlali is wrapped in another "Aether gets a stronger reaction" in the latest story.
>>4576394Those people are legitimately insane.
>>4576574They are the same people that say Jeht isn't a lesbian and Bina likes Aether as well.
I wish this was a bigger ship
why are there so few noelle yuri fics?
>>4576890There's unfortunately so few Noelle appearances. Shame, since she had the best hangout quests. Every ending was gayer than the last
>>4577279Editing is a hell of a power
>>4577572I love their artwork
Has anyone of you played GGZ or do you know about the fan project to turn it into a VN?I love Honkai Impact obviously and there's really no way for me to play GGZ with me being from Germany and such.I considered picking up that VN version instead, I'm really curious about it, but fear it could either be too much to pick up or it's not complete.Does anyone of you know if it's any good?
It was worth it in the end
>>4578477I forgot to tag that I was responding to this >>4578343 comment
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>>4578589Can't wait to get her
>>4573451>>4573448This is a classic case of "Character didn't meet my preconceived expectations of them so it's a rewrite." I genuinely don't know where the idea of "all of the harbingers are irredeemably evil" idea came from. Since that was never, at ANY point shown to be the case. It's like people saw Signora be comically evil, and applied that to every harbinger without ever seeing them. The reality is that while they work for the Tsaritsa, it's also a means to an end for their own personal goals.
>>4578619This is total bullshit. This reads like someone that's never played the game a day in their lives. Either that or they started late and know that they aren't all evil so you're acting like the signs were always there.
>>4578619The devs litteraly admitted that they rewrote the vision of Snezhnaya to be less vilainous and threathening in their documentary, I don't know why people are coping about this.
Himeko's "tragic" backstory being placed in the same story with talking monkeys, talking raccoons, the power rangers, and all these other memes makes me feel so disconnected. Its like I'm playing two different stories at the same time, and honestly neither are very good.
>>4578805Honest question has 1 really good thing come out of Planarcadia so far?
>>4578811Stellemarch had some cute moments
>>4578811Sparkle Sparxie. Considering the writer didn't change from the disaster of the previous patch cycle, there's not a whole lot you can expect. Same issues everywhere. And this weird need to always have world, sorry.., UNIVERSE ending threats to fight that need to always one up each other.They went the completely wrong direction with this game's story. Trailblazing is such a neat concept, and completely fucked up with this weird fetish that every enemy needs to threaten the entire universe to die.
Honkai Impact is still great after all these years.
>>4578919Sparxie was fucking annoying.
>>4578622Everytime someone says Genshin didn't have rewrites I'm always reminded of obviously pyro Iansan being changed to electro
>>4578919>every enemy needs to threaten the entire universe to die.The consequences of Amphailreus
>>4578919I miss when the story was about stellarons fucking up a planet and the crew going around to fix things. Not every story needed to be that but that to me was a neat plot point. It tied into Stelle carrying a stellaron inside her and was a natural way to have the SH periodically return. Now the Crew really don't have much of a motive to be doing what they're doing. The events on Amphoreus and Planarcadia feel so disconnected with what the story was setup to be. HSR shouldn't have universe ending threats that the AE are destined to defeat, because the AE shouldn't be seen as destined heroes.
>>4578932I wish that the three non-Genshin games had gameplay interesting enough for me to want to sit through hours of it for story beats. Genshin's pretty whatever combat was at least balanced by pretty enjoyable wandering around exploration, varying degrees of amusing puzzle stuff and good vibes and music. I wonder if the Death Stranding GTA game will have noteworthy yuri pairings.
>>4579200It's kind of interesting, if you browse /hig/ for example, you can read a lot about how anons don't like more open world kind of maps and wished for those old "stages + combat" of the earlier chapters. Of course the yuri in HI3rd is great, it's HI3rd. It seems like you look for exactly the opposite of Honkai's basic combat loop and stage design.
Does anyone know anything about the new hoyo game? Does it have actual story like the others game?
>>4579202Yeah, I was never a big fan of stage style stuff in like DMC/Bayonetta/other old JP hack and slash games, and I feel like Hi3 and ZZZ combat leans to the pretty rudimentary side of that kind of combat, at least from the like hour I played of Hi3 and gameplay I've seen of ZZZ. I really like open world exploration (especially Genshin's sort where you're rewarded for just poking around in all the corners by finding chests) the environmental puzzles also speak to me, at least once you get past Mondstadt and Liyue's "lol light a torch or put out a torch".Small stages always make a world feel so game-y and disconnected.>>4579206Which one? Animal Crossing? The Death Stranding GTA? Pokemon/Palworld?
>>4579206>>4579208Oh I guess there's also (probably) Elden Ring?
>>4579208>Small stages always make a world feel so game-y and disconnected.For me, it's the exact opposite: When I picked it up, any hack and slash in 3D on mobile seemed like a huge deal. Those short stages of the first few chapters made it easy to play occasionally and when the story picked up, I was hooked.>>4579206Nexus Anima? I'm obviously a Honkai Impact player and I dropped Star Rail eventually. My impression is biased and borderline purist. There are several warning signs.>MC which may be female or maleSelf-insert. Basically the harem isekai of gacha.>playable male characters, including what should be villains like OttoDiluted story (if any) and worst of all: No focus on yuri, so all you will get is goggles.>the example of Carole: her skin got lighter, her exaggerated tits and ass aren't as pronounced anymoreSounds weird at first, doesn't it? What I mean is that the design is "safe". You may like it or not, but it may mean that characters are more shallow.>my conclusionAvoid at all costs.
>>4579208>The Death Stranding GTA?Huh, which one is this?
>>4579200I'm waiting for the British detective game to come out. It seems like it'll have a good bit of yuri in it. They also seem to be using the FMC more in the marketing
>>4579217https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NccLyRQQZY
>>4579213Nexus Anima looks like a game streamers will shill for bit no one will play. Hoyo is is really ruining the gacha market with their greed. They are releasing too many games without ending any of their previous ones. 5 gacha games from 1 company is way too much. Plus we don't know if this >>4579244 will also end up being a gacha game as well.
>>4579246I think we can assume it is. It features multiple playable characters in a party each with their own attack style and stuff, so it's extremely likely that there will be a bunch more characters that are rolled for.
>>4579246Nexus anima is aimed to casual woman gamers, it might not matter if no one talk much about it online if they can really get this part of players avaliable in the market, I doubt it, but that's their plan.
>>4579258I feel like it'll struggle to really find a fanbase, but will probably survive for awhile off of existing Hoyo fans. Blade feels like he's solely there to attract HSR fans to play. I wish instead of putting all this money into new games they instead updated the character models of their older one. Hoyo makes too much money for Diluc to still look the way he does. They make too much money for Planarcadia to look worse than Penacony
>>4579262It's weird because they actually treat ZZZ really well even though it can't compare to hsr or genshin earning, I guess it's a case of the more money one make the less likely they feel like continuing to invest money.
>>4579283ZZZ has pretty weak storytelling visuals outside of cutscenes. Like HSR the characters just stand there while talking. Plus it has the most basic world design compared to Genshin and HSR. Not surprising that it has pretty good character models. The characters outfits on the other hand could use a lot more diversity. I swear a majority of the women wear the same style of clothing.
https://nhentai.net/g/622844/If you're like me and always wondered where to find this book and just always saw the cover art with them wearing their swimsuits.
>4.4 was actually a good patch and did something with himeko that made me like her>but it basically had no build up because they spent last two patches shilling blade and SH>she wasnt even present for the fight against fulwish, one of her friends and 4.3 had her offscreen digging into ryusuke/asat instead of joining stelle to meet with graphia>most of 4.3 silver wolf crying about blade and family baiting with the SH>so all of the himeko stuff is basically just abruptAmphoreus had its fair share of issues they atleast built up gay kevin and cyrene along with the heirs for several patches even if it was scuffed as hell. How in the fuck did the manage to forget to do that for himeko, especially when this is her home fucking planet. this place feels just as if not somehow worse than amphoreus
>>4579473Amphoreus had a lot of flaws but at least it was memorable. Planarcadia isn't bad or good. It's worse than that. Its forgettable.
>>4579510I know what im going to say is going to get me crucified because this isnt exclusive to them but i genuinely hope the SH will never be given this level of relevance in a main story arc that isnt their inevitable dedicated one ever again because 4.2 and 4.3 unironically drags this planet down
Ramiel dance with Belle in the last pvbut is switch scene with W, so mihoyo ruin they tradiction of only females dances
>>4579517Everything drags this planet and Himeko's story down. Eva could've been removed entirely and very little would change. HSR has an issue where the story is written in an episodic way but the devs wants us to see this as 1 long narrative. I know its been said many times before but the story quest in the main quest style of writing is doing no one any favors. Everyone just fights for the spotlight and ultimately no one is given it. That and since everyone is having their own adventure so many things irrelevant to other events. Sparxie had nothing to do with the SH. SH had nothing to do with Himeko. Himeko had nothing to do with Eva. Its the Penacony Aventurine, Firefly, Sparkle, and Acheron issues all over again. It makes the conflict feel like it could happen anywhere, since so many of these characters have no connection to the planet itself. As much as I didn't care for the way Amphoreus was told at least everyone there was from Amphoreus. Each of those characters had a connection to the planet and their own reasons why they wanted to protect their own. The only major issue I had with Amphoreus is that it juggled too many characters at once and gave time to reallt tell a full story. In Planarcadia what's really the story that connects the people to that planet outside of Himeko? Everyone else's story feels like this could've happened on any other planet.
>>4579528I've given up on ZZZ. Its probably has the most het pandering of all Hoyo games. Its also the only Hoyo game where the only major yuri ship the game has actively has one of the girls ship teased heavily with just Wise. Its also the only Hoyo game where the female MC has no major ship over the male MC.
>>4579544That's what happen when they do dual genders "mc", the girl mc will most of the time be relegated to just another part of the boy mc "harem".
>>4579528Meanwhile Silver Palace is giving us this gem. I'm dropping ZZZ when this fully releases
>>4579544>>4579548The only character that's surprisingly shipped more with Belle than Wise is Vivian. Honestly I thought the self insert crowd would have her glued to Wise the moment she was introduced.
>>4579244I lost all interest in this when I realized it'd be yet another gacha with a shitty and shallow combat systemI think Hoyo's design philosophy would really benefit from having to make a real game. No gacha, no live service, just a complete game with a complete story and we'll developed systems. From first impressions Varsapura seems like it could be a perfect fit for that, but alas
>>4579301>The characters outfits on the other hand could use a lot more diversity. I swear a majority of the women wear the same style of clothingThat's true of all hoyo games
>>4579423NiceThanks sis
>>4579563Its insane how in 2026 it would be a breath of fresh air to see a company make a game that has a definitive ending. Gacha games greatest weakness is that it goes on and on with no end in sight. Do we really need a new Hoyo game that we need to waste more years of our lives following?
>>4579528Lemme guess, one of her character pv is gonna have Wise in it.
>>4579891They have to do everything to make money given the state of the game relative to their other titles.
>>4579891Didn't they do the same with Cyrene? I don't remember any of Cyrene's trailers having Stelle>>4579935Why's the old hang so beautiful? She's the only Hex character I really want
>>4579901Meh they've done this before and it won't be the last time too
>>4579544>Its also the only Hoyo game where the only major yuri ship the game has actively has one of the girls ship teased heavily with just WiseRuining Astra and Eve was just so funny to me. It felt like two completely different teams making the decisions.Funny enough the safest pairing left in the game is Burnice and her furry
>>4580389even weirder was trying to shoehorn Alice as another love interest when 99% of her interactions are with Yuzuha
>>4580398Her constellation translating to lover of Phaethon also felt random.
>>4580398alice was way less blatant than astra's PV and that in-game interaction cementing the pv happenedits not even comparable at all
>>4580398Pretty much all of the character affinity quests in ZZZ are OOC and shouldn't be considered canon in my opinion.It's not just about "relationships", it's about everything. I think they are largely outsourced or something. In a way it's better this way, because you can only see them if you have the char, so they shouldn't really be having any relevance. But it can be quite disturbing how OOC they become.
>>4580509Some of them are also completely non-stories.Like Velina's for example. Though I suppose it makes the pandering ones, hoiwever few there are, all the more baffling
>>4580509I think viewing them that way will judt det yourself up for any potential disappointment in the future. It also downplays any of Belle's yuri ships. If you view some as OOC then you'd have to view them all as such. That would include Zhu, Doe, Ellen, and Miyabi.
Thoughts on Seele x "Seele"?
>>4580419Its crazy how that isnt Vivians
>>4580621Better than Seele/Bronya but not as good as Seele/Bronya/"Seele"
>>4580710hot take, I ship Senti x "Seele" actually.
>genshin devs hate lumine>zzz devs hate bellei've not played hsr in a while how is stelle treated there?
>>4580729
>>4580729Stelle just exists. She's arguably the most self insert of the 3 of them. The TB feels less like a character and more like a means for someone to live out their ideal self insert story. We're almost at 5.0 and Stelle still feels as much of a blank slate as she was in 1.0
>>4580917I dunno, that sounds like bias. Sure being a trash digging gremlin and in general weirdo isn't A LOT, but that IS characterization. She is by design a very strange person, not something many would self insert with.There was this one part of the game where you would control Firefly and see Stelle from her view, and that in my opinion was a very good example what and who Stelle is.
>>4580959What I mean is she has no goal. What is Stelle's story in HSR? Lumine has a brother she's looking for, travels to different planets, and is actually an ancient being. Belle has a genki girl with a very mysterious past. Her and her brother help others as a proxy while searching for their teacher. What is Stelle's story? What's her goal? What drives her? She was taken onto the AE. She goes to these planets because other people request them to go there. She isn't fighting towards a goal of her own. There's a difference between having personality and having a character. All this to say I completely disgaree with you.
>>4581055Also I'm not sure how criticizing how they write Stelle is bias. I actually like Stelle and wish they gave her an actual story and goal of her own in the game. Of the 3 of them she's my favorite. That's one of the reasons I wish they gave her more to do.
>>4581055Stelle is literally a newborn. What goals do you have as a newborn?Part of why she is crazy, random and loves to try out everything is because she's deep down a little kid that knows NOTHING.Her goal? Find out about herself, and find a life worth living for. It's not really hard to understand.
>>4581068That was fine 4 years ago but she still hasn't developed at all
>>4580389
Pulchra and her human
I hate how much pulchra x wise there is that exist only because MC self insert must have a harem. They have no fuel at all
>>4581068You are writing as if this game isn't over 3 years old. A main character should have goals, hence why they are the main character. To think otherwise is blinding yourself to the basics story writing. I can't tell if your just trying too hard or just stupid.
>>4581070Thank you. Not sure why that's so hard to understand. Its like they've never read/played/listened to a story before.
>>4581121Disgusting bitch
>>4581068>Stelle is literally a newbornThis has been proven wrong during the flashback that showed she knew FF and Kafka years ago. >Her goal? Find out about herself, and find a life worth living for.This would be nice if the main story focused on this. How is going to Penacony finding more about herself? Amphoreus randomly threw in that flashback for Stelle to allow her to know more about herself, but that ultimately meant nothing to the story of Amphoreus. In Planarcadia Stelle is just being used for us to learn more about other characters stories. I agree that Stelle really needs a main story or quest where she's 100% the focus. She shouldn't be one of the most underdeveloped characters in the whole game.
Stelle character died when hoyo undid all the importance of stellarons, I don't even get what's the point of stellarons anymore when there's much more fucked up and dangerous stuff in the universe anyway.
>>4581190Anon.. for what it's worth she herself has 0.0 memories. Maybe there was a past life before, but what's that for you if you have no memories? It doesn't change that you know nothing and the entire world is something unknown.It's arguably more comparable with Amnesia, because she can obviously speak, walk and hit things with her baseball bat, but still.Like I said, you try pretty hard to fault find, when the others are hardly any more special.
>>4581283I'm not even that same anon. You need to learn no one here agrees with you and sees you as a dumbass. Stelle is written like shit. Only a retard would say otherwise.
So... Star Rail is still that sitcom which resets (like, Stelle's character development) after every planet?I genuinely can't contribute anything to this discussion and don't even know the new characters, so here are ancient ones.
>>4581325Still my favorite couple
i wanna pull for ramiel but they're going to ruin her just like they did with astra/ye (i wish hoyo would remember that belle is an mc too)
It's Yae Sakura's birthday!Mihoyo kind of forgot her and her wife (seriously, it's been so many years), but still.
i dont think mhy hates Belle, it's just that they unfortunately have to appease to the male self-insert incels that make for most of their userbase and cashcowsthey sneak every now and then that Belle is as valid as Wise in terms of protagonism and romance potential with the cast but cant go to far without making those people mad
>>4581407>cashcowsI don't think so. But if you like your life, you should probably not trigger the mentally ill.Their female targeted gacha recently got into major trouble for that reason.
>>4581407Then there's moments like with Miyabi and Ceasar that makes you question if this is actually the case.
>>4581194They just addressed TB's Stellaron in 4.4
Remember that the zzz devs are hardcore self insert fags
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>>4580729Well, after having been absent in the marketing for the first part of the Fate collab, she's included as Rin's Servant in the 2nd which is pretty cute.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX3oBRfMjdA
>>4581540No one gives a fuck about this shit collab and one of Shirou's bitches having screentime with Stelle
>>4581540They made sure to give her a moment with Acher is the trailer. No way they will make will shiptease her with Stelle in any meaningful way. Seeing Caelus there in the trailer doesn't fill me with confidence either. I do like that Stelle is still the main one shown around Castorice
WHORE
>>4581603Is there any in game material with Belle and Promeia?
The only good way of making a Fate collab would be taking the Holy Grail war concept, but using zero fate characters. And the master/servant pairs should be yuri couples like Serval x Cocolia, Bronya x Seele, Black Swan x Acheron, March x Evernight, Cerydra x Hysilens, Aglaea x Cipher, etc. Could be an opportunity for Jingliu x Baiheng, but that would be too evil.
>>4581686>Bronya x SeeleThey did kinda do that in the first part of the crossover, but just as like, a little aside in the combat challenge segment, rather than anything story pertinent.
>>4581686Isn't March and Evernight now the same person? Wouldn't March x Stelle, March x Himeko, or March x Robin make more sense?
Behold, the most ancient of couples.
>>4581729Whether they are the same person or not is debatable, but with hoyo the answer is usually no. But sure, other ships are fine too.>>4581732And still one of the best couples. They deserved better treatment though
>>4581686Of course Yae gets the gay ending
>>4581732I was insane about these two a decade ago. Shame the game completely abandoned them
>>4581817>>4581748https://x.com/3rdcsmDx/status/2079905520585154830It's not much, but it's new art of the two.Yae Sakura was one of my favourites when I just started playing the game, and of course I have a soft spot for her wife as well.If only they could have had something to do in the main story and not just in Sakura Samsara...It's like Kallen was more of a plot device in Kolosten and Yae was one of the flame chasers, but she just was there, obviously hard overshadowed by the other pink girl like everyone else including Mei.
>>4581841I need art of Grace having a harem of Sandrone, Ineffa, Qingyi, and Aria.
So, any thoughts on Remielle's trailer?
SandBina has become one of my favorite hoyo ships, they just complement each other so well
>>4581194Personally I think all Hoyo characters after Luofu suffer from bad character writing. Remember when Serval had her own store? Lynx enjoying being outside? Hook and hanging out with her band of misfits? SW enjoying video games? Yukong raising her dead gfs daughter? Pela working at the museum? Qingque playing Celestial Jade? It feels like ever since Penacony they've stopped writing characters that feel like characters and making them more just walking plot devices. They exist to serve their plot relevance and then leave. They have no hobbies of their own. If they do it only exists for main story purposes. Outside of Robin, who's a singer, none of the new characters since Penacony feel like they have any personality or hobbies of their own that's not connected to the main plot. That's what made the Fate collab so hollow to me. The game expects me to be invested in these characters when for over a year they haven't really felt like characters. When Castorice was going around with her sister I couldn't help but think does Stelle even know these two all that well. I don't know maybe I've just stopped caring about this game.
>>4582504A mixture out of personal bias and the current writer sucking really hard with pacing and serious story telling, leaving too little time for other things.Like Eva most definitely has her "hobbies" as far as that goes at least. But some chars like Fu Xuan and Yao don't have much there, because they are too busy doing their (chinese) work. I don't think we've ever seen much about Bronya and Seele's hobbies either.Some Amphoreus chars also have some minor things, like Cipher taking care of a bunch of kittens she picked up from the street. But plenty of them have nothing.I don't think this every really changed.
>>4582228She had a girl that could be her canon ship since that is the meaning on dancing on hoyoverseAnd Belle can't save her from W
>>4582793Anon you completely missed my point and I definitely disagree with the ones you're trying to make
>>4582793>I don't think we've ever seen much about Bronya and Seele's hobbies either.Honestly I must sound like a broken record because I always repeat myself, but I was really disappointed how little there was of Bronya and Seele. The shallowness of the girls in general was my main reason to return to HI3 instead and abandon HSR. How they handled Bronya and Seele was the first major red flag.
>>4582793>like Cipher taking care of a bunch of kittens she picked up from the street.Pretty sure that's not what anon was talking about. That's too minor of a detail to really pick up on.
Hoyo just released some tragic yuri animation for ZZZ
>>4582228Wait for the 3rd one, unless you wanna get Astra'd again.
>>4582848No one cares about ZZZ. Its a shit game
>>4582848>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYD25XaDBj8HereSo far....so good. We know there will be some in-game bs with the proxies but let's hope they dont undo all these Remielle marketing in the final two days with something new and undesirable, knock on wood
>>4582855Hello again SEA
>>4582856Anon Remielle literally dances with the proxies as a parallel to this. Belle/Wise is being setup as her new lover
>>4582861That's what I meant by the in-game bs, but again that's proxy(Belle) and somewhat excusable.When they pull an Astra again, that's when it's bad.
>>4582870Did you not see the video where Wise is in more shots dancing with her than Belle?
>>4582871That's still in-game stuff both will get.Wait for the final PV, if there is one, and then decide.
>>4582874Honestly, I don't really think it makes a difference which is focused on more in the PVs when both are in the game. Either way, we'll get her dancing with Belle.But then there's this bias towards male MCs in fan communities in general, so even if we get more Belle in her final PV, I don't think that's really gonna sway the general consciousness from what is, unfortunately, the default operating procedure.Male MCs are a mistake simply for existing.
>>4582928That's why Vertin will always be the greatest gacha MC ever.
>>4582228I don't know anything about ZZZ, but I've heard about the trailers and watched them. They are very good and it's embarrassing how they have more HI3 energy than anything HSR has delivered in years. Though sadly it seems that game loves shitting on yuri pairings to force ML bait, so I wish they were in a better franchise.
I like how we went from no one talking about Remielle and ZZZ to all of a sudden today everyone talking about it. I don't know if its that anon trying to force engagement by posting more of her or if everyone really just decided to talk about her now.
>>4583021The doomed yuri trailer hit harder than the Sunbringer one and it was released like 15 hours ago
>>4583025Even then it feels like its out of nowhere. That trailer came out 5/6 hours before anyone mentioned it and all of a sudden everyone is talking about it.
there you go leave it to hoyoshit to ruin it with their wise pandering
>>4579891Called it.
Was nice while it lasted.
>>4583102She part with Wise was way more in our face sexual. I'm honestly surprised she's not as hated for the forced waifubait stuff like Cyrene and Firefly were. Is it because ZZZ players like waifubait characters more? >>4583103Watch they ruin Robin by making her in love with Wise also.
It's not ideal But it's not as bad as what happened with Astra
>>4583117You can tell that this 100% was gonna be the usual waifu pandering with the male self insert but something happened last minute that made hoyo include a few scenes with belle
>>4583117This video felt so random. This isn't her character at all so it felt even more waifubait. Take Wise out of the discussion and I'm still left with why they did this. I hate when PVs aren't reflected in game. Either have her basically want to fuck Belle on the spot in game or do away with BS like this. For example Genshin had a shit to of Sandbina promotion and followed through by making the in game story have a shit to on Sandbina. If you're gonna make Remielle wanna fuck Wise and Belle in a trailer have the courage to reflect that in game. Otherwise this is just white noise to me.
>>4583117While she dances with both, she wants to do a horizontal dance only with Belle.
So I wonder if Remielle's actions towards Belle have just been an act to get close to someone with connections to Helios and she's still carrying the torch for Vike after a hundred years
>>4583130oof don't remind me what they did with pulchra. having her naked and womanhandled by that other catgirl in her PV
This is the only place that bitches about this stuff btw
>>4583196The only yuri site in the world is the only one that complains about hetslop. Truly a mystery
>>4583203I meant more complaining about marketing material obviously not aimed at a yuri audience to try and discredit actual yuri in the product. Its just childish SEA tier complaining
>>4583196This is bullshit and you know it.
>>4583207>yuri fans complaining about the lack of yuri on a yuri board Either you're new here, stupid, or just trying to create an argument. What a dumb thing to say. Did you think /vg/ was gonna complain about yuri content?
>>4583203Yeah. I'm also not sure what they were getting at. They make it sound like there's thousands of other places that talk about Hoyo yuri.
anyway, here's some YuzuAli from vietnam
>>4583301Anyway from what???
https://x.com/ZenlessWorld/status/2081837604396474434From a short fan animation
>>4583315I wish they would've had her solely into the playable sibling. The "I love both siblings" role is already filled by Vivian. Its almost like she took Vivian's whole character trait. Maybe stealing someone from another character is just the fate of all Elysia clones.
>>4583331Also what are the odds ZZZ will actually commit to her liking either of them? Personally I'm kinda over gacha games being vague about characters relationships. It'd be nice to have a character outright state they love Belle/Stelle/or Lumine.
>>4583331As far as the in-game portrayals go, Vivian explicitly says she only likes Belle (as main sibling), though. She asked Wise and Fairy which one of the Phaethons left the Interknot message that kept her from killing herself and confirmed it was Belle, so her obsession is wholly focused on her. As for Remielle, the new PV may have her dancing with both, but I'm pretty sure it's not implying that she likes both equally in-game. Has she even said one word to Wise? The only time I think she was physically in the same room as him was the first meeting at the Starloop, and even then I don't think she spoke to him. Every other time is only Belle, or he's possessing Eous. There isn't any indication she has any strong feelings towards him compared to Belle.
>>4583331>>4583339there's also this official artwork
>>4583339>There isn't any indication she has any strong feelings towards him compared to Belle.There was no indication before her release that Alice would be in love with the proxy but here we are.
>>4583332While I doubt they'll ever go so far as to have her say it straight-up, sometimes the sentiment is obvious regardless...
>>4583332Closest so far is Firefly I guess
>>4583486Shame the example you're using is with the character everyone believes loves solely Aether. Jeht would've been better here
>>4583523Not too repeat myself but for me the cloest is definitely Jeht. She doesn't hide her feelings and Hoyo goes out of their way to make her lines for Lumine way more intimate. Imagine if her world quest was voiced.
>>4583529Mizuki quite litteraly confess to Lumine, but nobody cares about Mizuki
>>4583527>>4583529While I think those people are utterly insane, you are correct that Jeht is wonderful.
>>4583539I care about Mizuki. It's just there's not enough of her in game. She suffers from the Emilie, Escoffier, Zibai, Linnea, and Varesa curse of coming in really late in their respective regions
>>4583568Has Hoyo ever done a character like Jeht before? Not a lesbian character, but rather a lesbian character that's confirmed to have a crush on solely the female MC. All this talk about characters liking the MC usually means both the male and female one. For all the shit people give Citlali about blushing more for Aether she still likes Lumine as well. There's some games where some female characters can be a love interest for the female MC as well. Jeht is the first character I've probably ever scene solely like the female MC and the game going out of its way to express that.
>>4583647I'd rather have a lesbian character pining after an actual character instead of the blank slate MC though. Ningguang is mostly teased with Beidou and her birthday lines are different for Lumine and the twink. It's hilarious how her line of him is pretty much just talking about Lumine.
>>4583656Oh brother I hate people that complain like you. Why even respond?
So is there any yuri with Remielle or was it all bait? Waiting to see how everyone here reacts to her first before considering on pulling for her.
>>4583749
>>4583751I thought they were going to kiss with their other pair of lips.
Gay SandBina videohttps://youtu.be/tsFRSeIIynU?is=RAFHVdlNKFouFHdT
She upgraded her hat.
>>4584027I saw the game went all out with them
>>4584316>>4584317Its crazy how good writing can change people's outlook on a Elysia expy ship. Stelle x Cyrene is hated meanwhile Belle x Remielle is pretty well liked. Its crazy how putting actual care into the character and not just focusing solely on making money off that character can change people's views.
>>4584325>Stelle x Cyrene is hatedPersonally, I do like Stelle/Cyrene (though Firefly still my preferred designated waifu ship), it's just kinda marred by the on-release marketing push emphasizing Caelus. Also I still think the whole "Bride" theme was like, trying too hard, just felt sorta random.
What does /u/ think about the idea of Danica & Vesna serving Anastasya in her bedroom?
>>4584472Danica and Vesna look like the classic genki x kuudere pairing. I like it.
>>4584472I'm hoping there's potential with Odette and Vodyanitsa. A singer and a dancer would make for a great ship.
>>4584667>>4584669>>4584715People sure do love Belle as the bottom in her ships. I'm starting to believe Belle is just born to be a bottom. Even Vivian would probably be the top in their relationship
>>4584472Artists are working fast
>>4584738Belle is a bottom who sees herself as a top
>>4584553>I'm hoping there's potential with Odette and Vodyanitsa.I've seen plenty of people latching onto them after the livestream, which specifically called attention to their closeness and called them "Snezhnaya's most popular duo."
>>4584876More like Remi is the first Apex top shes encountered so far and shes no match lol Not even Jane had her energy
summer event did vivian dirty... they've turned her into nothing but a joke character... i don't think she even shows up afterwards like some other characters did.
>>4585916it's honestly sad how after she risked her life to save Belle the writers just have her be a stalker or a cuckqueen
>>4585916>>4586001Sounds like they found out her VA voices Tohru and decided to turn Vivian into Tohru 2.0
Anyone else feel like the Fate collab kinda just came and went with Star Rail? I remember a lot of Stelle x Saber art made last year. Have people just stopped playing? Or was last years event so bad people didn't care this year? Or was Stelle x Rin not as strong as Stelle x Saber?
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>>4586528
I got a new thread prepared, this one has been on page 10 for a while now after all, but I doubt that this one will be archived anytime soon, so I hold it back for now.
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>>4586842Which March do you think is making Stelle react like this?
>>4586841>>4586842>>4586865>>4586879This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them.
>>4586880Rules are meant to be broken
>>4586881I mean... I have no idea what's going on with March 7th anymore, but I get it.
>>4587768
>>4587769
>>4587897march is melting
Finally got around playing the latest event and man have they increased Chiori's sassiness towards Chevreuse. I wish there ship was much bigger.
Is this the first MiHoYo thread to reach image limit?
>>4588210It's not, we had this before, usually when anons feel less like discussing the games and/or couples.I remember some times when /u/ would discuss a lot about Honkai Impact 3rd gameplay, the meta and banners while /hig/ over at /vg/ at the same time discussed ships, couples and posted yuri art.This kind of shifted back in recent times I suppose, as you would expect, even though they still discuss yuri of course.
>>4588226I wish hoyo made another game with only female playable characters. Might be the only way to have a somewhat decent fandom.
>>4588492The self insert Aetherfags might be one of the worst part for genshin. There's legit some people that believe Citlali only loves Aether, but Jeht likes both siblings equally. They aren't as bad as the zzz Wise self insert players they ship him with every woman, even Belle. HSR surprisingly has the least amount of Wise self insert players. HSR players instead are mainly yaoi fans and people that think making the smallest criticism on how the game tells its story means you hate everything about the game. Reverse having just Vertin and pairing all the girls eith each other allowed it to have one of the better gacha communities.
>>4588492You do got to understand that the Honkai Impact community can be extremely toxic, but if you ask me, that's totally justified. Better to lash out prematurely and relentlessly than to allow any kind of hetshit to stain the game.
Are Jane and Remielle the only ladies who like girls?
>>4589030In ZZZ or in Hoyo as a whole? If its Hoyo 99% of the HI3 women are gay. Navia x Clorinde, Dehya x Candance, Columbina x Sandrone is the gayest ship Genshin has ever made, and Jeht has a canon crush on just Lumine. There's also Madam Ping and Guizhong
>>4589040>99% of the HI3 women are gayIt's really just Elysia who "loves everyone", but it's true for every other playable character.
>>4589041I'm so tired of seeing this dumb shit about Elysia, and I don't even like the characterElysia "loving everyone" isn't romantic, it's her loving humanity due to the fact that she was born an herrscher and feel as a result that she's herself deeply inhuman.
>>4589043Also like, if you pay even a smidge of attention, it's easy to notice a difference. She's polite and friendly with guys. She THROWS herself at women.
>>4588669I used to think it was overblown and that people were making a big fuss over nothing about Genshin having male characters. Now, I'm fully on that "toxic" side. It's not even the het shippers or self-insertfags that really get to me (though I do find the latter especially insufferable), so much as just fans of male characters themselves (and to a lesser degree fujoshi). Sure, they might not actively attempt to preclude yuri by trying to force girls together with guys, but it winds up happening anyway with the total male-centricity overshadowing women in general. Really I wish they'd all just go away. Hang a big ol' "No Boys Allowed" sign up or something.>>4589030I hear even normies will say Anby & Nekomata are gay.
>>4589054It's unironically good to be toxic. In Honkai's case, it's necessary to preserve the game as it is. After all, they already tried with Adam in APHO or later again with a male Dreamseeker. Part 2 just got good after the latter was deleted.
>>4589030If the player uses Wise they will both like him also. They are on the same level as every female character that's shipped with the Proxy
>>4589093I mean both Jane and Remi really flirt with the other girls in the trailer, I didn't even mention proxy.
>>4589043>>4589050Perhaps I just project everything bad onto her. In fact, I'm pretty sure about this.
Where's a new thread?
>>4589304I'm just pointing out how dumb your post is
>>4589316I got some new thread prepared, but then decided not to make it yet... and now we're at the image limit, still page 10... ah one moment, I'll bake it.
>>4589316Here it is! >>4589342Since it's Bronya's birthday in a few days, a BronSeele Edition.
>>4589325How is it dumb when they love girls?
>>4588600Aether self-inserters are especially hilarious because the dude looks gay as shit.Nobody who doesn't have have self-insert brain damage would look at him and think he's into girls.
