The original version of Fabien in Bloodlines 2 tested poorly. He was constantly whining, and Phyre was constantly being a Debbie Downer, and players didn't like the dynamic at all. (Some people on /v/ had speculated that Fabien's moralizing was gonna be an issue, and they were absolutely right.) So the decision was made to delay the game and rewrite him. They were working on Malkavian DLC at this time, and it clicked when them that Fabien and the Malkavian DLC protag should become the same character. Originally, Fabien wasn't playable. So that rewrite the story DLC and integrated it into the main campaign. The full rewrite took about two years, but the actual implementation took about a year. That's why the game was delayed from Q4 2024 to October 2025.>So we did quite a big change later on, we had a lot of extra story we wanted to tell and we also wanted to introduce the Malkavian clan. Suddenly we went, what if the Malkavian was the character in Phyre's head? >Suddenly, Fabian was brought to life and they went okay, this is the right way to go. It's quite a late change and also a brave change, I think, from Paradox's case, because they said, yes, you're right. We do need to make this change, let's take the time to do it. We are very happy with that.https://wccftech.com/bloodlines-2-qa-lot-subtleties-to-movement-combat/They say the game is 20-25 hours long, but they're still not fully sure because they're continuing to add more content to the game in the leadup to release.
>>719460627>forced to play voiced character with fixed backstory >now you have two forced voiced characters with fixed backstory and constant switchingWow what a great improvement, totally what all RPG fans love!Fuck this trashphyre.
>>719460781>>719460781>>forced to play voiced character with fixed backstoryWhat do you mean "fixed backstory"?
>>719460627Then people will find out that the story lasts 8-10 hours instead 20-40. And remember - no Asians
>>719463759>And remember - no Asiansqrd
>>719460627bloodfags 2 deluxe edition. Spoiler or not... a good ending according to the devs the reign of the anarchs with their ghetto bosses Ysabella, etc. and of course the murder of the asian Ryong Choi and her "mother" Lou Graham (optional)
>>719463759Do you have anything to back that up?
>>719463759>And remember - no AsiansLooks pretty asian to me.
>>719465189Ysabella isn't an anarch, though.
>>719465643source my ass, you don't have to believe
>>719466103Not saying you're wrong, just noting that Ysabella is "officially" Cammie. Okay, then, who is the gardener? What is his connection to Fabien? Why did Fabien open the box? What does Damsel want? And is it true that Safia is an imposter?
>>719465594asian greedy for power...a familiar cliche, right?
>>719466274least dishonest /v/ poster
>>719465594Not to mention, the ugly one.
please buy an ad, jannies have to eat too
>>719466839I have a thing for asian grannies.
7 weeks.7 WEEKS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
>>719460627>mandatory dialog dispenser NPC that starts backseat gaming if you take even a second too long to solve a puzzle or whateverI hate this modern video game trope so fucking much
>>8719467508You don't even need the voice. I remember the first time I had to suffer that shit, Arkham Asylum, just dodging around to look at Bane and his attack sequence, and the game thinks I'm taking too much time, so message pops on screen telling me to use the batarang during the charge.
I like OP, he's a honest deluded shill. Can't wait for his heart to be shattered forever,
>>719465189C'mon, tell us more.
Do not reply. Do not give this faggot shill money.
>>719468171Stop whining. We might have an insider here. I want to know more.
>>719468243I take >>719468243 back.Kill yourself, subhuman shitskin.
Friendly fire between enemies is a nice touch.
LEAK DAMSEL PICS ALREADY.
>>719468171why would Anonymous do such a thing.....fuck off retard
>>719468171Why's it still called Vampire the Masquerade if its actually Big Strong Vampire Climb Walls And Cast Magic At Thugs?I'm not even sure where this fucking ability appeared from, it was just there randomly in Bloodhunt and now apparently all vampires are ninjas instead of goth girls.
>>719468042Dude who works in the field of early purchase and distribution of retail games doesn't inspire confidence. "the game has two ways with their own endings, and 1/3 of the game is a general intro". I don't really believe in this, knowing about the linearity of Paradox games.
>>719460627Everything I've seen about this game just tells me that The Chinese Room don't really seem to know or care as to why VtMB is even liked.
>>719460627are you telling me they've spent 3 years of dev time on quirky voice in your head?
>>719469450Wait, does that mean they've pulled off the "side with UNATCO" vs "side with NSF" idea that Deus Ex had to scrap? If so, that would be impressive.In terms of length, I know the game takes place over 9 nights. And we've already seen two of them. The third night is when you'll deal with Benny. So I could see it being 1/3. But I was under the impression a sizeable chunk of the game was spent doing side missions for the clan leaders.
>>719469450Did he like the game?
>>719469907I still don't believe in this shit, except for the stupid stereotypical cliches that always work. But if you kill the "rebels" at the beginning in the tower, then it's reasonable to assume that there will be an opportunity to side with them.
>adding more story to the game leading to releaseWe live in an age where the only thing we haven't gotten is a direct livestream of devs shitting. And here we have shills, willing or otherwise, saying shit like this. Yeah, they're going through the entire process of development for 2 months prior to launch so you get 2 more hours of missions.The whole pipeline, QA, iteration, builds, beta/alpha, assets, writing, audio, folley, design etc etc.Imagine with how fucking stupid they are, how much more unfathomably stupid they think we are.
>>719470336I didn't ask. Maybe he lied to me, that's why I wasn't interested.
>>719463759No Asian no buy.
>>719470680I wouldn't be surprised if it's just more random vampire riots for you to deal with or other emergent things like that.I think this is a case where the game was sorta content complete by March, but they've been left with several months of extra dev time, and they have an opportunity to keep adding things to the game in an effort to make it longer.The game's main writers left months ago. So it's more likely to be content they cut because it was going to take too long getting added back in.
>Character creation lets you choose your gender and after the tutorial, your clan and nothing else>Always have to play as an elder vampire called Phyre with a Malkavian soul known as Fabien stuck in his/her head >Dialogue between Phyre and Fabien frequently interrupts the game flow >Fabien will force you into flashback sequences from his point of view >Cannot choose Malkavian, Nosferatu or Gangrel clans >Two clans locked behind DLC (currently being reviewed by dev/publisher)>No statistics >No inventory>No guns or melee weapons (except when using telekinesis) >No quest log, just a generic indicator of your next task on the current quest>No hacking or lockpicking >Breaking the masquerade is an instant game over>No humanity or frenzy >No special dialogue checks >Poor voice acting
>>719471104>>Character creation lets you choose your gender and after the tutorial, your clan and nothing elseWhat else were you expecting?>>Dialogue between Phyre and Fabien frequently interrupts the game flow Imagine complaining about dialogue in VTM game.>>Breaking the masquerade is an instant game overJust like VTMB1.>>Poor voice actingNow we're just making shit up. The voice acting is some of the best acting any videogame has ever had. It's flawless, as is expected for this studio.
>>719471251>Breaking the masquerade is an instant game over>Just like VTMB1.it took 5 you retard
>>719471334But that's a full masquerade breach. In VTMB2, you pass from green to yellow to red, and once you hit red you need to stop immediately or the vampires make you stop.
>>719471251>What else were you expecting?Statistics which affect gameplay.>Imagine complaining about dialogue in VTM game.It's constant dialogue inside your head where you see no emotional response from the other "person" whatsoever. It might as well be text. >Just like VTMB1.Might want to play it again. It's a game over after 5 violations and even then you have chances to redeem your transgressions. >Now we're just making shit up.They literally hired a youtuber to do the radio.
>>719463759No Ascians? Thank god.
>>719463812nta and I'm only guessing, but the Kuei-Jin, the Asian "Vampires" that showed up in the original Bloodlines, are considered outdated and orientalist these days by the TRPG writers so they haven't been updated since the early 2000s and as such won't show up in a game that's meant to advertise the most recent edition of the Tabletop Game
>>719471838This treasure was stolen from us...like guns, melee, big boobs, asian clan, third person
>so uh, my character is an elder and stuff>he is literally so powerful that he run at the speed of sound>and he's also like really strong so he can just break steel chains with his hands>aaaaaaaaand that's why he like doesn't even NEED to use any weapons>like dude his claws can like rip people in HALF>and and and he's just like above all mortal means of war>like when he wants to use a gun for fun and stuff he just use his MIND to control it with telekinesis>what do you mean power progression and character development?>that sounds really gay>my dude is already like the peak of power and really cool
>>719471987>They literally hired a youtuber to do the radio.So the perfect kind of person to play a radio presenter? The male radio presenter is Jason Carl, I notice. "Take a note because multiple things are happening at once.">Statistics which affect gameplay.That's what skill trees are for.>It's constant dialogue inside your head where you see no emotional response from the other "person" whatsoever.Are you new to The Chinese Room's games? because they're all like that. Most of them have a narrator rambling on and on for hours.
>>719471251get a real job, faggot
>>719472198what does orientalist mean? racist?
>>719472198>Using Orientalist as a negative Fucking Westerners, I swear.
>>719472420Not really, at least not intentionally, it's more like Europeans and Americans fetishising Asian cultures in a way that could be considered disrespectful and inauthentic to the original cultures. At least in the modern usage, it was originally just a European art movement in the 18th century about their experience of Middle Eastern culture and architecture>>719472494I don't think it's a negative, but the current World of Darkness writers 100% view it as one.
>>719472198Talk about the inadmissibility of racism, but act like a real racist. Smart move
>>719472689why can't we have nice things?
>>719472387Considering it's not an RPG it would be more limiting development wise to be some small fry vampire
>>719472807The owners of the franchise and writers they hire are bad and only care about the Nordic LARP scene
The Kuei-Jin aren't as bad as some people make out, but they are kinda dumb. It's a really common issue in vampire fiction for the people writing the fiction to have basically no clue about any culture outside their own.
>>719472394>So the perfect kind of person to play a radio presenter?A professional voice actor with years of experience.>That's what skill trees are for.Never the same thing as statistics and you know it. A lot of them are new abilities and many are directly from other games like Dishonored. >Most of them have a narrator rambling on and on for hours.There's no need to interrupt the gameplay for the two of them to have a chat if you're not going to show them actually talking.
>>719472906>It's a really common issue in vampire fiction for the people writing the fiction to have basically no clue about any culture outside their own.Isn't that the case with all fiction?
>>719460627vtmb in name only
>>719472689"rewriting history and removing other ethnic groups" Next we will fill their pupils with urine?
>>719472974Yes, but vampire fiction and fantasy is really prone to world building problems because it stretches itself too thin.
>>719472972>A professional voice actor with years of experience.Karis Campbell played Deb of the Night in Bloodlines 1, and she wasn't a voice actor with years of experience.
>>719472394>Why aren't you happy with the shit we're delivering you? Our studio specializes in shit and all we make is shit, you should know that by now. Are you new?
>>719472972>>719473171Additionally, why did they let Brian Mitsoda act in Bloodlines 1 and the cancelled 2? He had no experience, either.
Reminder that this is what you're replying to, anons. Do not feed shills.
>>719473349wonder how much shills get paid per post$0.01, $0.001 even?
I love imagery like this. Gives me Vanilla Sky vibes.
>>719473406a fortune to the pajeet that might propel him into a higher caste
>>71947317122 episodes on one of the most popular tv shows ever made is not experience?
>>719472198>>719472689>>719473106I came up with an idea, we can create labor concentration camps for Japanese, but we will put all Asians there and deprive them of their property rights. And when the war is over, we will not return their housing to them. Great plan...oh wait
>>719473557What does VtM have to do with American WW2 internment camps?
>>719473556I think you're getting your timelines confused. When Karis was cast in Bloodlines, she was a nobody. She was later in The West Wing, but when they put her in Bloodlines, she had cameo roles in a few TV shows.
>>719473654>And remember - no Asians
>when the shill gets no engagement, he starts samefaggingPathetic.
>>719473771>LaterNo the episodes aired in 2004. They sure as hell had it in production before then. She was probably picked up by Troika for that reason.
>>719473929Yea, that's a fair counterargument.
Atmosphere seems great.
>>719473783>we are against racism so we will remove the asian clan from the game and this story.Racists use racism directed "against" racism."Ooooh, this is fucking shit! What's the point? I can't take it anymore "
>>719475262They weren't a clan, though.
>>719474335yeah looks good
>>719475398WW did also get rid of Ravnos, which is the closest the game comes to an Indian clan.But removing the Kuie-jin just means China, Korea, and Japan aren't represented in VtM at all
>>719460627>UE5how badly will it run?
>>719460627>no guns>no melee weapons>no disciplines in dialogue>no stats>no inventory LMAOWho wants to play this garbage?
>>719460627>character in your headso they copied cyberpunk
>>719472198Yes. Kuei-jin straight up don't exist in V5.
>>719478862Did they also get rid of the Ebony Kingdom Clans?
>>719478943I don't know, but I those were basically just bloodlines or culturally-aligned factions. If anything they think it's too racially hot to touch as well.
>>719479064Why must race be such a hot-button thing? It wasn't this bad 15 years ago.
>>719477685*raises paw*
>>719480036Because it's not about race, it's about immaturity. Or rather about the lack of trust in your players to not be mental midgets.
IS ANY OF THE MUSIC GOOD
>>719480395last lines in both of those hit hard for different reasons and summarize tonal differences perfectly
>>719480395>sexual violence>gore>torture>HOMOPHOBIACaine help us...
>>719480789Knowing Caine he'd slip a knife in your hand and say good luck.
>>719480789At least it's not about Chechnya
>>719480673those lines hit about as hard as a wet paper napkin, the fuck you on about?
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>>719472830>Considering it's not an RPGI think the devs would disagree with you. Nobody else will, but they would.
>>719484090the shill will
