This is where the veil was lifted and I realised how shit this game really is, the mask has been taken off, one of the devs trooned out too which speaks volumes about it.Who thought this was a good idea? Do you realise my life is more important than sucking this games fucking dick just to finish it?
>>720518086Sounds like you need to get good anon
its a bit silly but you only have to do this runback like three or four times
>>720518148I already have (pic related) and I still think this is total dogshit game design.
I fucking hate it, why does dark souls and all of these fucking gay videogames think that I enjoy being treated like a fucking bitch?
>>720518758>think that I enjoy being treated like a fucking bitch?You're being treated like a bitch because you're a punk bitch.
>>720518839Answer my question you fucking cuck
>>720518885You suck at the game
>>720518372on Steel Soul Mode, does the game punish you if you quit out when you're about to die?
>>720518086the boss is easy lol also run back takes 30 seconds
>>720518086>30 second run backMost games take way longer to restart when you game over. Shitposting or not, it's funny how many people are unintentionally revealing that the don't play video games.
>>720518086I just beat last judge today. I Agree. That run back is fucking garbage.
>>720518927It's greyed out unless you're on a bench.
>>720518908>You suck at the gameI'm the best Silksong player in the world.
>>720518086This bad at all. Runbacks are good. Runbacks are gatekeeping. Keep putting runbacks in games.
>>720519080does it delete your save if you ALT+F4? I'm just curious to know how genuine the cheevo, if they really beat the game without dying.
>>720519191>This bad at allWhat did he mean by this?
>NOOOOOO 30 SECONDS TO GET BACK TO THE BOSS!!! AHHHHHH HOW CAN I COPE WITH THIS
>>720518758There's a trick to putting things in the right perspective.1. Beat any one hard trial-and-error precision game of your choice, like IWTBTG.2. Realize you now have nothing left to prove.3. Cheese/cheat every bullshit mechanic in other games at will because you already know you have what it takes, and your time is more valuable than this.
>>720518086Fortunately the boss is so easy that this doesn't matter.
>>720519351see>>720519085
>>720519241The game prevents all cheese tactics and yes I have beat it without dying, twice.
>>720519350Why do millions of other males gobble this shit up, is the entire male population just a bunch of mindless drones
>>720519241No archievement in steam is genuine, you can just unlock them with sam.Also, you can quit when you are about to die just fine.
in the first hollow knight when I died I could quickly alt f4 and it wouldnt save and I get get my money back. In this game in insta-saves the moment you die and even a quick alt-f4 isnt enough to save your money.0/10
>>720519461Do you want a pat on the back or something?
>>720519960Why don't you go smash your head in with a baseball bat for me?
>>720519960Are you going to give me one if I say yes or are you just trying to insult me?
>>720520230I dunno, I hadn't thought that far ahead.
tranny game
>>720518148>doesnt get good at game design first
>>720520037see >>720520714
>>720518086Getting filtered in act 1 is a self report. Hating run backs in general is too. It doesn't take very long at all to beat judge.
>>720521327It's unnecessary, they're literally copying dark souls, but I don't want to play Dark Souls, I want to play Hollow Knight.You can tell they copied dark souls, fucking hacks.
>>720518372nice use of SAM faggot
I swear you guys must all be doing something horribly wrong on this runback because it seemed completely inoffensive to me, did they change it in the first patch or something?
>>720521690>it's like Dark Souls because I struggle with the game
>>720522065A game that puts runback segments in its game doesn't respect your time and therefore doesn't respect you.
People keep trying to fight the judges
>>720521690>HK copying Dark Souls is unexpected, and even a bad thingJesus Christ help me.
>>720522132Any sort of death in any game is a "runback" and in most games, (especially ones where you have to reload or go through menus) you are sent much further back then having to do a 30 second run.
>>720522256Dark souls is a dogshit game franchise outside of losers on 4chan and reddit who suck it's cock because they fail at social interactions IRL and find solace in a dogshit videogame that is unencessarily difficult and rewards sinking time in it under the guise of "being good".
>>720518086If your time was worth anything you wouldn't be playing video games.
>>720522132Having to go through most of if not all of a level again if you die to the boss is something that's in practically every video game that has levels and bosses
>>720522308Except playing zelda or death stranding 2 is actually fun and easy and doesnt require you to react in split seconds
>>720522440>play mario>run right>fall in hole>cryOK
>>720522580>play Silksong>have to break your controller doing shitty flips, runs, gay shit for fucking losers with no friendsmore like
>>720522650>enter a thread on 4chan>need to 'pretend' to be retarded to post anything
>>720522337My normie gf beat the trilogy. You can't reliably do anything somewhat difficult without blaming the game for unnecessarily obstructing you kek
>>720522337>dark souls>unencessarily difficult
>>720522770>>720522762I paid MY money for this videogame, it should suck my fucking dick if I want it to, I don't have to do anything I don't want to.
>>720522884Go play Minecraft or something then LMAO
>>720523017Maybe I will, team cherry trooned out btw
>>720518086I find it amazing how that is such a problem for so many people. It's just a normal boss run, you can easily skip every enemy on the way and dash trough yet you lot fail at it spectacularly.
>yeah bro i played so much death stranding 2 today man, great game, i got to see loads of game content because i played for 2 hours, what about you bro?>i ran back to the same boss over and over and over again just to not make any progress
>>720522132The game doesn't respect shitters.
Wasn't his runback just 30 seconds or something.
>>720523395Only beta males and children can focus on videogames and dedicate their brain power to them. Real men are hard-wired not to waste their precious brain matter on a videogame and that's why most men who talk like you troon out or are gay.
>>720522132So which jewtuber said this? Otherwise you nigs wouldn't repeat it ad nauseam "thinking" you have some point.
Just beat the second Lace fight, this is the end of act 2 right? Anything I can permanently miss by going ahead? Or will everything still be available in act 3?
>>720523697Again, it speaks volumes that you cannot comprehend another person having a genuine thought or forming their own beliefs from lived experiences, and somehow the only way they could've had any thought meant it came from a youtuber, sad.
>>720523785>too afraid to answer a simple questionYou guys are really not good at it. Better luck next thread, retard.
>>720518086Filtered lmao
Made by troons? Not gonna play it.
>silksissies will defend this
>>720524029Yeah fuck man i better go enjoy my life instead of playing a shit game.
>>720523615I guarantee you waste proportionately more brain power shitposting than I waste on not sucking at video games.
>>720524360I use 4chan to re-affirm my understanding of other people, in that they are cruel, selfish, stupid, seek any small win despite losing the bigger picture.So go ahead, play your videogame, who actually respects such an activity?
Man you people wouldn't survive horsefuck valley or blue smelter run back
>>720524230The Knight is canonically WAY stronger than Hornet.
Guys I'm posting it again.
>>720518086you aren't entitled to finishing a game.if you aren't good enough, get good or get out.
>>720526987Wait THIS is what people were bitching about?
>>720523764Clear out vendors, finish all quests from the villages, upgrade your nailAlso, you can skip Last Judge entirely if you go through the Fog area. The boss there is pretty fun as well and the runback is much shorter
>>720518086>one of the devs trooned out tooProof? I wouldn't be surprised. Game is incredibly tranny-coded.
>>720527190Yes, that's the dreaded runback to Last JudgeI still don't get the hate, the movement is so fucking smooth it's kinda nice to do. Plus, you shouldn't have to do it that many times if you take the fucking time to learn the actual fight
They should've learnt from Elden Ring and replace the 30 second runback with a 5 minute phase 1.
>>720527190he has about 10 seconds of empty running cut out
>>720518086More like this is where you got filtered lmao. Judge sentenced you as a casual forever.
>>720518086>Thinking this runback is badGit gud
>>720531032This boss was so sick. Can't wait for the equivalent of the pantheon in this game.
>>720525281And they call this game woke.
>>720518086Honestly it's not particularly annoying, the boss itself is harder. Take a break if you start making mistakes during runback.
>>720519034in Rayman 1 if you don't cheat it's really easy to deplete all your lives and continues by the endgame, and then after some hard af levels you might die to the bullshit boss at the end and if you're out of lives you must load back to your last save. THAT is actual bullshit, kids this days have no idea
>>720530952... what? that's the full run to the boss room retard
>>720518086This runback is nothing compared to the Cogwork Duo what with those guards in your way
>>720532061Just pogo off of them and keep running.
>>720518148Play a real game git gud faggoid >>720530426
>>720518086Lmao get filtered. I'm a 40 year old drunk and I did last judge on my first three tries
>>720527528>codedBluesky coded language
>>720532042look at where he started. It's not from the bench is it?
>>720518086I can't complain about fights.But I have no fucking idea why this game is so filled with the troon platforming shit. The first game had exactly one gimmick location focused on it, but it's EVERYWHERE now. I see no reason why it should even be there, it's a faggot gameplay that only autistic AGPs off the deep end enjoy. Overwhelming majority iof people who wanted to play this game are literally not a target audience for it. Whm exactly were they making it for, speedrunner genital mutilators who exclusively chased path of pain record for 7 years.
>>720532423Imagine finding platforming hard, it's fucking mario shit nigger you just suck at video games
>>720532420You got me. I don't think it's 10 seconds, thoughbeit.
>>720532569>Imagine finding platforming hardCan you read subhuman? I am literally not interested playing it. It's not an entertaining gameplay unless you have brain problems.
>>720526987this is how she canonically moves in the game
>>720532423We all wanted more platforming instead of boss fights. Everyone agreed Hollow Knight’s best parts were the platforming segments and not the bosses.
>>720531032BASED
>>720532423the platforming is the best part of the game you fag, why else play this game, for the mid combat? Are you retarded?
>>720523242Do you realize how stupid you sound with this post?
>>720532736Who we, you and 2 of your discord butt buddies?
>>720532423>play a platformer>complain that it has platforming
>>720518086>which speaks volumes about it.Could you share some of those volumes? Please be more specific.
>>720532423>GIT GUD>*Gets fucking dumpstered by a speedrunner chad*>AIIIIEEEEE, not like that *voice cracks* TRANNYSilkthong players are as insufferable as they are hypocritical
>>720532650Yeah you're not interested cuz you're a shitter. You got fucking out bing bing wahoo'd.
>>720532771Path of Pain > GodhomeGodhome was shit for autistic niggers. They wanted to appeal to aboriginals with that shit. Fuck aboriginals.
>>720532423This opinion makes no sense to me, what's the difference between jumping around and attacking/pogoing an enemy and jumping around and pogoing the level?Because the enemies react? Is the static level that doesn't too hard?Doesn't make sense.
>>720532798>speedrunner chadlmfaoUnfortunatelly I've seen few spedrunning events so I'm well aware what a spedrunner actually isThose "people" aren't even human really
>>720532420The bench is like 2 seconds to the left in that room. Possibly even just 1 second, and 3 seconds at most.>>720527190Yes. Filtered retards are bad at games.
>>720532061Those guards are a money farm. Every runback is passive rosary stacking. You'll end up farming them anyways so learning to kill them efficiently is worth.
>>720532970When I say speedrunner chad I think exclusively of this guy (Cis het 8 feet tall Magnum dong Supreme Adonis)https://www.youtube.com/@JupiterClimb/videos
>>720519241Wouldn't matter, since you could just make a manual backup of the save unless the devs wanted to do remote save hosting only for it.
>>720518086This isn't difficulty, it is tedium. A way to frustrate the player while they constantly have to replay a trivial area, because they lost at a non-trivial fight. By forcing them to replay something trivial it makes the player increasingly frustrated and more prone to mistakes, until they start to lose even at the trivial area.It is unironically>dev hates the playergame design
>>720533772maybe you'll think twice about dying to the boss the next time
act 1 = 5/10act 2 = 7/10act 3 = 2/10 and gay
>>720531032Found out this boss's second phase is way easier if you don't run around like a squirrel like i usually do in the game. A shame, i like to go fast
>>720533895True, I'll exit the boss room when I realise I can't beat it.Oh wait
>>720518372I've seen enough faggots here gloat about using cheats for achievements to know this is worthless
>>720531032>poisonyou didn't beat the game
>>720534308what are the most prominent "you didn't beat the game" builds of silksong
>>720533445>people defending troon platforming are literal faggots telling people about their gay crushes on the internetgood to know
>>720533772This. The most frustrating parts of Silksong feel like they were added as a "fuck you" to the player. Edging towards subversion for subversion's sake and artificial difficulty.
>>720534457I really think the devs wanted to give a Dark Souls 3 experience to their fanbase at some points. I'm kinda doubtful if it was a good move on their part even if i'm personally okay with it
>>720534397I'm not spoiling myself and still in Act 3 at 93% completion so I don't know what speedtrannies have labbed out. For me when I feel like winning any encounter I just start throwing the kitchen sink at them. A full tool pouch is an insane amount of damage that can all be unloaded from safe range. I try to beat every boss needle only until I lose my patience and then the tools start flying. Silk skills are very strong and probably the ideal strat, but I use my silk for binding because I'm a shitter.
>>720518086It sucks but there's only 2 actually big runbacks in the entire game. This one and the bilewater one. Once you get to act 3 no hard bosses have long runbacks, in fact the most difficult ones just drop you off right in front of the boss, and that makes it even weirder to see people defend the runbacks.
>>720534457>The most frustrating parts of Silksong feel like they were added as a "fuck you" to the player.Pretty much>what if we added fake benches xDD>what if we made bosses explode and do damage >what if we put in fake kill animations for bosses>what if we gave every boss 2nd / 3rd phases>what if we put long shitty runbacks in for most bossesit's all very YoU suCk At ViDeo GaMes XDDD, the world has moved past this
>>720534410Filtered
>>720518758Why do you think they think you enjoy it? It's there for you to suffer, bitch
>>720534397architect crest with poisoned cogflies, traps, and tacks is the quintessential "you did not beat the game" setup
I kept my copy from updating to see what the patch notes are like. I beat Moorwing and Sister Splinter already, so should I update now?Both were perfectly fair fights, I just had to stop getting hit like a retard and save silk for adds where appropriate.
Mount fay is supposed to be impossible witout a guide?
>>720531032>the spinning bell pogo jumpingI wish I were that gud.
>>720535064I saw more anons complain about the removal of the override that would let you float before double jumping, but I haven't gotten that far into the game yet so idk if it really is a bad thing
Each new route and room is a fresh new flavor of hell.>current filter: the Far Fields lava pit gauntlet
Where is the tucking checkpoint? did I miss a shortcut?
>>720535334the part that made me tilt the most so far was the room with the big ant dude and the flying spearman, especially since I had to pogo off enemies to even get there and the reward was just a bunch of goddamn beads (I already had like 9 rosary strings on me)
>>720535336Right after that, good luck
went back to HK after this piece of shit, it is insane how better HK feels to play than Hornet. I can only guess that their "play testers" were mentally ill troons who like garbage mechanics because their dad voted for trump or smth
>>720535538Rewards ending up as currencies feel like kicks in the dick every time.
>>720533772zoomers getting filtered by a 30 second run back to a boss and thinking thats a long time will never not be funny
>>720518086>Do you realise my life is more importantPeople who use words like "troon" don't live important lives as they passed the bare minimum of education.
>>720534457yeah >want to play the game and try stuff out >lmao get fucked 5 min runback I installed HK right after and the difference is night and day. Original is so much better it is actually unbeliavble to me. Shocking, even. Moral of the story should be, dont ask mentally ill people for advice, they are literally insane and will give you shit advice
>>720535629Actually it's funny that you brainwashed gamerbrains dont have any respect for your time and actually dont mind the game wasting your time on repetitive tedium.
>>720518086Better stop now because the other areas would make you cry, baby.>Muh time isn't respected, got more important things to doLike gooning and whining? Who cares niggerkun.
>>720535601yeah even a lore tidbit or whatever would be better despite me not giving a fuck about the story, at least it would feel special
>>720535802explain why there shouldn't be a bench right before boss mr mentally ill retard
the grappling hook controls are so fucking bad, it wants you to jump after you use it but half the time it doesn't register my pressing jumpwhat a stupid shit game needs go to back to beta
>>720535334dont even bother unless you have double jumpanother case of game wasting your time
>>720536206???? It automatically bounces you up when you grapple anything but the hooks, by pressing jump immediatly after you might even ruin it by going into float mode.
>>720521327Hating runbacks is completely legitimate especially when said runbacks add NOTHING to the experience because there are no dancers along the way so they're not even designed to whittle down the player.It's pure bloating.
>>720524804bilewater runback made me miss those, at least until i found the secret bench
>>720518372>>720518927>>720521770>>720534278Those are from the first game btw, you can check the percentages. The first game was much smaller and easier.>>720522065Only thing that changed is the sandworm pit damage went from 2->1
>>720531764you also only have three hit points most of the time and farming extra lives is all but impossibleand space mama can go suck a nigger dick
>>720535914kek funny how muf difficulty faggots cant seem to answer this. Retards. Still playing HK, my GOD are hit boxes so much better. I actually get to run around enemies and do shit instead of dying if they are not a max sword lenght
>>720523989He answered your question, but you are too illiterate to understand it. You are probably ESL and brown.
>>720531032>clawgripThis guy came back during act 2 after taking the backdoor into the citadel, essentially doing this fight when he's already overstatted for itSo many disingenuous posts about the game that rely on people not having knowledge of it yet to call them out.
>This is where the veil was lifted and I realised how shit this game really is, the mask has been taken off, one of the devs trooned out too which speaks volumes about it.
>>720536706iirc when you defeat her you can still be hit and die because of the washing machine floating away, i remember reading that the devs had almost no time to playtest the game and I can easily believe that
>>720518086This isn’t bad at all.
>>720535336Hah. Usually I like to fight bosses without tools because they feel cheese but for this guy I spammed tools because fuck that runback. He looked like he’d be a trash boss anyways..
>>720519350>1. Beat any one hard trial-and-error precision game of your choiceTRVKEFor me, it was the final stage of Drakengard 3
If you can't handle that 30ish second runback, you'll piss and shit your diaper when you have to deal with Bilewater later on. Holy shit lol. Thank god I beat that boss on the second try. Now THAT is pain (still felt good though).
>>720536882This part was bigger time waster because enemies can move unpredictable. Meanwhile doing some parkour with Hornet seems comfy. OP can suck dick before opening another dumb topic like Switch2 failing.
>>720519350>Assume because you beat a difficult game once you'll always be at that level>Rely on cheats to mask your ever declining skillsThe moment you try without cheating you'll realise just how far you've fallen.
>>720518086is that sadam hussein
>>720519350>>720538104The hole in that reasoning is an assumption that you need to "prove" something, by CONSUMING AN ENTERTAINMENT PRODUCT LMAO.I will consider you proving anything to anyone when you become filthy rich, or get a PhD, or become very successful in some sport. Video fucking games, and especially single player ones lol, do not warrant padding your ego, and never will.To need entertainment products to improve your ego and not for the entertainment, you have to be a combination of completely worthless waste of life who doesn't amount to anything while also having a small dick causing you a need to compensate it with e-peen.
Quit after Morewing. Will wait for the rest of the nerfs, feels good
>>720522132Respect is earned retard
>>720518086>he hasn't witnessed the groal runbackoh no no no
>>720518086People seem to hate this but I just can't get why, you literally just dash/walljump/bounce through it all, you can run/jump past the few enemies in your way. Yeah the boss is hard, but doesn't everyone just learn the layout and how to platform through after a few goes? It's just like learning the boss's patterns but for platforming. Do other people try fighting all the enemies every time and get hit or what?
>>720519034word, I wonder how these fools would fare with Classicvanias
>reach mount fey>bullshit freezing mechanics>last stretch is annoying because there's a lot of backtracking>cheat my health not to drop>do the jumping segment that was bullshit>remove the health block>continue onwardsI feel a lot of game design choices, such as some of the platforming and stuff like 2 hearts contact damage are plain bad.Also the double jump feels so not necessary, the entire game could've worked just fine without double jump being an ability you get.
>>720540568how did you "cheat"? If you're talking about juicing up on lifeblood, that's totally legit and how I do all the platforming segments in this game.
>>720534841Most bosses don’t have bad runbacks.
>>720518086>the mask has been taken off,Git gud
>>720534947Architect requires a lot of grinding for materials. Its supremely overrated in ease unless you are just cheating for resources IMO.>>720534397Wanderer,Long Claw and the Quick Heal is the most busted. You can just get right up in bosses faces and mash attack thatll rack up Silk bar and like 80% of the time if they do attack back youll cause a parry and can dash out.If it wasnt for the necessity of pogoing you could probably run around with autofire on.
>>720540618lmao no anon, he literally cheated to not lose health with cheatengine because he's too retarded to learn a route and perform it quickly. He sat dumbfounded and confused at every place he could stop because he just wants to play the new popular thing but doesn't actually want to feel challenged.
>>720540895Oh lolI would love to see anons faces when they realize a game like Celeste is too hardcore for them with all the bitching about platforming I'm seeing here.
>>720540568>Cheat my health to not dropYou cucked yourself out of an experience and you have my pity. the only cheat I can forgive is for Rosaries. Ive lost fucking hundreds because of new areas killing me and then the enemies buzzing out of attack range and taking me out a second time
>>720538659>I quit less than 10% of the way through the game
>>720536878He doesn't have it. You can see him start falling.
>>720541126>>720540895>>720541105The route had the final junction where you take damage no matter what and you need to be topped off to reach.This required backtracking a lot.You can't properly explore the area and learn the path organically, since you are on a literal time limit on how far away you can go.So for that part I cheated, as it was wasting my time with literal artificial difficulty.I've finished Celeste (got a strawberry pie, didn't collect all the strawberries) and I finished Metroid Prime Echoes, a game that handles environmental damage a hundred times better than Silksong does.There is difficulty and then there is tedium.I'm fine losing 400+ rosaries because I fucked up fighting enemies while not being careful, I'm not fine having to redo the same path that has 0 fighting in it (beyond killing unmoving soft "enemies" who for some reason still deal contact damage) because of an arbitrary countdown timer.
>>720518086It's literally like 40 seconds, and the boss is pretty easy anyway, don't be so dramatic.
The hype made the game too popular for hard difficult it is. Too many tourists jumped on it and are pissy the game doesn't play itself like 95% of modern games. Then they lash out that they don't get to participate in the fun. It's funny because Team Cherry never stated this was some mass appeal game for everyone. The internet hype machine just turned it into the next half life 3 that everyone was now waiting for. Unironically get good.
>>720541417Oh and to add to that, the fact the "grappling hook" of the game requires silk to use is also beyond retarded, as it means I have to pre-emptively farm silk or I have to wait until my silk regenerates.Same with the Needolin or whatever the song is called costing silk, if I want to interact with the NPC and hear the song I have to pre-farm silk.It's retarded game design.
>I'M NOT BAD AT THE GAME I SWEAR, BUT THIS RUNBACK IS-ACK!if you don't want to runback then maybe you shouldn't have died to the boss lol
>>720541326>Realizing that an entertainment product is not worth your free time spent on it>No longer consuming an entertainment productOne of the very few people with self-respect on this shithole site.
>>720541417>where you take damage no matter what and you need to be topped off to reach.Theres no section like that. You fucked up somewhere
>>720518372Neither of these are hard to acquire and HK is piss easy compared to SS.
>>720541417learn the path? Is it not extremely obvious where to go? It was linear outside of the area with the bench. How many masks did you have when attempting it? The only thing I can think of is that you got there with 5 masks or something (and no lifeblood) which means you're exploring there way too early (I didn't even bother to get double jump until after I got the first ending)>>720541490Yeah, definitely too early. You get powerups that restore your silk to up to 3 charges when idle. You use the lights on the path to warm up and wait for it to charge to full.
>>720541490No you fucking don't need to farm silk. The regen in the game takes care of those basic functions, if you play with a style that absolutely spams the grappling hook you can equip the improved regen passive tool. I never had an issue that you're referring to.
>>720541326>food analogy
>>720518086The difficulty for this game was all over the place, one of the areas where it locks you into a room and you have to fight several waves of enemies took me a dozen tries (particularly the one before the composer's song) but I beat the final boss yesterday on my second attempt. It's too easy to miss essential damage upgrades to the nail.I really wanted to like the game but it's just barely a 7/10, very disappointing.
>>720541417>where you take damage no matter what and you need to be topped off to reach.literally didn't happenevery section is timed so that you can comfortably get to the next lantern either before you start taking damage or if you mess up a bit only take 1. and they give you plenty of courtesy silk along the way
>>720518086Kek this is nothing. With sprinting and good platforming you can run from bench to boss within 40 seconds. If you think this is bad wait til you get to Bilewater, oh boy.
>>720541621are we talking act 2 final boss or actual final boss?
>>720541664>didn't find the inbetween benchsucks to suck I guess
>>720541621>too easy to miss essential damage upgradesOnly if you arent trying to play the game. Only one upgrades a bitch and its the one where you have to collect rare food.
>>720541664i'm sorry to tell you this, but you missed a secret bench in the middle of that run
>>720541621>The difficulty for this game was all over the placeFeels like completely the oposite for me. HK was all over the place with piss easy exploration and a handful of super hard bosses. Silksong is quite consistent all the way through.
>>720541741>>720541752>dude just swim through all the maggot soup in this entire gigantic area, and punch every wall hoping there might be winding path to a secret bench!No, this is not considered a valid strategy. 90% of people found this by googling it.
>>720541664>He missed the benchAnon I wish you came here sooner we wouldve helped. Not even on 4chan is anyone cruel enough to not let you knowIm so so sorry
>>720518086Maybe don't die, you think about that you retard?
>>720518086>getting filtered by the last judge.
i do wonder if the guy spamming that one dev trooned out is the same shitposting retard or it's even worse retards parroting him
>>720541542>too earlyThen it is badly designed to allow this place to be accessible already.>>720541647>every section is timed so that you can comfortably get to the next lantern either before you start taking damage or if you mess up a bit only take 1. and they give you plenty of courtesy silk along the wayNo, that's bullshit.The only way to do it is if you find a secret bench along the way.A bench you are hard pressed to find because you're reaching an area while already being on a time limit.I don't mind the fact that 90% of the map is hidden behind fake walls but at some point it becomes objectively bad game design, you have too many antagonistic choices in place.I'm sorry you want to punish yourself with bad game design but at some point I have to stop giving a fuck.Doesn't help I also got burned by 880 rosaries for the charm that "improves the heal" and all it does is make you heal 1 extra mask.Game is fun but some parts are simply idiotic.
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>>720541741>>720541752Even if you do find the secret bench, the resulting runback is still several times more AIDS than the Blasted Steps runback.
I genuinely don't get what people call "difficult" or "skill issue" about this game. Everything about the game is easy, the bosses are easy, enemies are easy, etc. It's everything else that causes the game to be "difficult". Difficult as in, annoying, time wasting, boring, and at worst artificial. Enemies stay as far away from you as possible, they have 5x the range you do because all of their moves have massive hit boxes, they have ranged moves. If they're a flying enemy they can literally slide on the X/Y axis and avoid your hit even if you would have hit them. It takes way to long to heal most of the time which causes you to get hit by enemy/boss moves all the time because you can't do shit about it. Or it forces you to play like a pussy and run away to heal or hit-and-run. Skills being tied to the same shit as healing is dumb as fuck. Everything does too much damage for no reason. Areas/arenas are too fucking small for you to move around and fight in forcing you to get trapped by some enemies/moves. And so on.It just isn't fun. There is no real challenge to the game, just a test of patience, a test of boredom. Just because someone could or might be able to do sections hitless or on first try doesn't mean it's well designed or fun. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
This board is constantly seething about things being too hard, and then the second a patch drops they switch to seething about "muh normies" who are clearly at fault for the nerfs.Do you niggers have no shame?
when you are decent at vidya you praise hard designwhen you are good at vidya you see the tediousness that is accompanied with the "hard" design and end up loathing it
>>720527190The only part of the runback I don't like is the first bug he runs past at the start. If you fuck the timing up it pops up right into the path of your jump.
>>720518086>mask has been taken offthat's the point of the game, chump
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>>720541839>>dude just swim through all the maggot soupthere's an anti-maggot charm earlier in the game you can acquire that allows you an amount of time to spend in maggot water without getting infested, which is for the purpose of giving you some insurance during exploration>No, this is not considered a valid strategyExcept the secret to the boss is actually to stay in the water because 90% of its attacks can't hit you there. but regular players aren't smart enough to think outside the box like that because maggots = icky and bad
>>720541932>Then it is badly designed to allow this place to be accessible already.It's for people that want a challenge and a reward for going off the beaten path early that will in turn make other parts of the game easier. If you didn't want the challenge, you should have turned around and come back when you had more powerups. This is the entire design philosophy behind the genre and the amount of you that just barrel the fuck ahead instead of exploring the rest of the game is fucking concerning.
>>720542198>entire game design about going from the very bottom to the very top>go straght to the top ignoring all side paths>act surprised that you've reached a progression point
>>720542228>there's an anti-maggot charm earlier in the game you can acquirethe way most people progress, they'll reach bilewater long before they find the wreath of purity
>>720542228where is the anti-maggot charm, faggot?
>>720541932>The only way to do it is if you find a secret bench along the way.that's already expected of youdid you forget what game you're playing?
>>720542019Because people who suck themselves off about being "hardcore gamers" and post bot responses don't actually play video games at all. They literally never launched the game being discussed ITT. This happens because most of them are brown people fIGHtInG CulTuRe wAr - some retarded game journalist once complained about some game being too difficult, and now this entire thing is a pOLiTicAl sUbJecT.
>>720541937I have been there and there's no bench. Was I supposed to dive into the shit water? The game severely punishes that, so I avoid that.
>>720542293you can reach the catacombs and tomb of the giants as soon as you get to firelink shrinejust because you can doesn't mean you shouldif you recognize a challenge and continue along the way then you only have yourself to blame if you come out frustrated
>>720542228>90Its more like 40. His diving into the water and the enemies he summons all can still hit you
>>720518148fpbp
The moment a mainstream game releases with no discernible rollslop iframes or generous parry timings and it fucking filters peopleJesus Christ
>>720542390While I agree with you Anon the issue with this kind of thinking is the fact that when you die you leave behind a currency. This is why peoples first instinct isnt to go "Huh well better try somewhere else"The Rosarie thing is a biiiiiig flaw for a metroidvania.
>>720518086This shit is less cancerous than the arena in the magma level
>>720542502>buy game hoping to get a fun game with some challenge>get game that is extremely artifically hard and dumbthanks
>>720542554But it's the same in Dark Souls. And here you have ways of getting your money back without going back. AND you can convert your money into non-losable items.
>>720518086It's like a 30 second walk to that boss, maybe even less... once you know the road after your first exploration, you only have to deal with no mobs, and just outrun and walljump out of trouble, I'm not even good, it took me like ten tries to deal with the boss... very enjoyable fight, under Widow and obove first Lace.
>>720542390>if you recognize a challenge and continue along the way then you only have yourself to blame if you come out frustratedthe challenge being "actually you can find a bench that downgrades the experience from absolute ass cancer to moderate ass cancer, if you equip a special charm (you'll find it way later in the game) except this charm's protection expires quickly if you keep swimming in maggot water which implies you're not supposed to do it, still you have to swim through every square inch of maggot water whacking at random walls hoping the game has mercy and gives you a secret bench somewhere, and the secret itself is not nearly as intuitive and sensibly connected as other secret paths in the game"nice challenge there
>>720542554>the issue with this kind of thinking is the fact that when you die you leave behind a currency>The Rosarie thing is a biiiiiig flaw for a metroidvania.except you're given a way to store your rosaries for a small feeand yes, 20 rosaries per 120 stored is a very small fee that can and will be recovered later on through regular playyou're also given the silkeaters to instantly reclaim your cocoon if you forgot to bank your rosariesUSE WHAT THE GAME PROVIDES!
>>720542683are you admitting that you only bought silksong because of the hype without actually playing the first game?are you a child?
>>720542228>there's an anti-maggot charmNot him but the way the Wreath of Purity is designed seems to imply it's not for protracted swimming in the bile, but merely for giving you an extra second to hop out of it. The charm breaks if you stay in bile too long. If I had access to the charm and saw how it works, it would only strengthen my opinion that the bile is just an environmental hazard that should be avoided.
>>720542697the maggots don't actually hurt you, you know. they just prevent you from healingif you can keep your head on and manage to avoid getting hit (ie: being good at the game) then it's simple enough to work aroundand if you die, so whatjust try again. you're making up more punishments in your head than there realistically are
>>720542672>The arenaGod that was some bullshit. I wish I made a webm of that fucking hit by spear into magma combo which does like 5 health uninterrupted
the gauntlet at the forum was so completely fucking unnecessaryit could have stopped after the first big armored bug and that would have been completely sufficient and quite challengingbut it didn't stop theresome of the most obnoxious enemies in the game and it just keeps going and going and going until>"let me guess, now it's gonna throw TWO of the big guys at me"and of course, it did
>>720542869>and manage to avoid getting hit (ie: being good at the game)Post your no damage fans faggot. Just kidding, we both know you don't have any of those. It is questionable if you even actually play this game at all.
>>720542786I beat the first game 2 times, never had any real problems with it; arguably I had fun the entire time I played it. There's a few frustrating parts here or there, but it's overall very good and fun. I bought silksong because I loved the first game. SS has very good parts to it too, and the combat/etc is good. But in comparison to HK, SS is ass. It's annoying as fuck, has bad design choices everywhere. The benches are too far apart, there's way too many run backs, the rewards you get are either not that good (just more beads or shards), or are useless because their use would have been better served 6 hours beforehand. Bosses aren't challenging, just aggravating. Touch damage and environmental damage is soul sucking and discourages being swift. Only gaining the "skill" of rote memorization so you know what to do exactly because you've seen it 100 times before (which isn't a skill, it's just pattern recognition which even literal animals can do).SS is like a gem covered in piss, shit, diarrhea, throw up, and gasoline. The effort to get fun out of the game is not worth the effort put in. HK is the exact opposite, no effort required to have the most fun possible. With optional challenges in late game or DLC areas to really test your skills. All SS does is test your level of patience, not skills.
>>720518086Just skip the boss, bro
>>720540217>I just can't get whybecause you are brownoid retard they could've put the bench closer. They didn't because fuck you, that's why so now they have a downvote from me because fuck you that's why too.
>>720542962you're right, i'm not good enough at the game to just avoid every instance of damagedidn't stop me thoughwhy is it stopping you?>y-y-you don't actually play this game, dats imbossible!why even post that?
>>720542917just wear the magma bell equip and it's way easier, reduces both lava damage and his weapon damage
enduring the tedium doesn't require skill and is nothing to be proud of
>>720543131Repetition is the mother of skill you cuck brownoid. I hope ICE gets you next.
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>>720543063>why even post that?Because at some point I started to have severe doubts that people like you play those games they discuss at all.>>720542310There's like 1/2 chance that you're a brown culture warrior.
>>720518086Blasted Steps? More like Buttblasted Steps lmao.
Which Crests are the best?I kinda like the Hunter the most, but I feel like the Architect and the Wanderer probably have the most potential to effortlessly carry yout through bosses.
>>720543295Witch if combat.Reaper for all those faggot platforming sections.
>>720518086that's like two rooms, nigga, that run back isn't hard at all. you really need to git gud at the platforming in this game, if that small section is difficult for you after running through it a few times, you're gonna have a bad time in the rest of the gamealso the boss isn't that bad, has like four moves to learn. equip that magma bell you get from the deep docks vendor so that the fire attacks do less damage
>>720543153so why didn't they put benches closer? :) to filter people who, like me, just installed HK and played a good game? If so then its a great way to find out people retarded enough to waste their time running back.
>>720543190>Because at some point I started to have severe doubts that people like you play those games they discuss at all.Okay your turn
>>720542019
>>720543456you'd waste less time if you just got better at the game
>>720543512/v/ is just me, one other guy and bots, THOUGH
/v/ used to make fun of casuals before it became a majority third world board. The difference is night and day, you have a bunch of slum dwellers who can't imagine applying themselves in any sort of challenges and then pretend it's just about the game being for loser neets or whatever
>>720543554Am bot, can confirm.
>>720543554Am me, can confirm
>>720543554I miss the third guy
>>720531032>using the harpoondisingenuous webm desu since you clearly are fighting this boss much later than most people. i agree that it isn't a hard boss though and if people are getting wall'd by it they may as well quit now because they are not cut out for act 3
>>720542372yesthe hidden bench runback is still cancer because unless you get hit a really annoying combo you will land in the maggot water
>>720543526instead I am not wasting any time, and I have installed HK instead. Meanwhile, you are stupid so you consented to having your time wasted. again, why are benches not closer? You have no answer to this.
>>720518086The zone after that boss is cancer, too. I went into it with zero rosaries, because I spent all of them on shard bundles because I kept dying to the boss. The benches in there require you to deposit 15 rosaries, the enemies are annoying as fuck to fight and drop 3 rosaries on death, the levels are full of environmental hazards that deal 2 damage. Shit's just not fun.Also the fact that vast majority of the bosses give you literally zero rewards only makes it worse.
>>720531032>wanderer crestyou didn't beat the game
>>720543737there's nothing wrong with the placement of the bencheswhy do they need to be closer?
>>720536878I am pretty sure it's just the first silk skill and not the Clawgrip (which you can't even have before Judge, can you?)
>>720534308poison actually makes most tools worseit takes away base damage in exchange for some dot damage, but it's not all equal
>>720536878what an embarrassing post
>>720518086This is where the veil was lifted and I realised how shit this board really is at playing videogames, the mask has been taken off, plenty of posters have trooned out too which speaks volumes about it.You are complaining about a piss easy short platforming section that even I, as a boomer gamer with slow as fuck reflexes can do consistently without problems, I know because I did it countless times.
>>720540783>Architect requires a lot of grinding for materials. Its supremely overrated in ease unless you are just cheating for resources IMO.Not really. 80 shards via a bundle for 50 rosaries is a steal once you hit Act 2. That's not even counting the bundles the game naturally gives you. Some tools are too shard expensive to be used for every mook encounter, like the flies or flintstones. But some like the boomerang and all the pins aren't that costly. I think the "risk" of Architect is that if you die a lot you will go broke with all shards you burn and rosaries you spend. But tools make the game so easy that you should never die to anything if you pick the right ones for each encounter.
>>720543803>there's nothing wrong with the placement of the benchesthat wasn't the question ESL turd. Try again
>>720518086The run-up isn't challenging.The Last judge isn't either for the record.He has three moves anon.Even when he blazes up the fire effects are very forgiving.You just suck.Got a case of idiot fingers and old man reflexes.
>>720544123I gave you your answerthere's nothing wrong with where they are, therefore there's no reason they aren't closerbut you can't seem to answer my question without making yourself seem like you'd just bad at the game, and that's why you're frustrated
>>720518086I still find the Souls method to be much more generous than older metroidvania games. You still keep your map data and any items you find. You can get your money back easily if you just play smart. Having to redo a 20-40 second platforming section is nothing. Compare that to SoTN's system where you lose everything on death and have to watch a long game over sequence before reloading your save.
>>720544195I guess trying to communicate with people who don't understand english is pointlessfucking jeets
>Dark Souls originally enrages people not because it's hard, but because it actually punishes you for mistakes>years pass, every souls game completely drops this and just tries to be hard on the face in dumb ways>shitty indie "souls like" metroidvania comes out and enrages people not because it's hard, but because it actually punishes you for mistakes
>>720541524>One of the many people of the shitter variety who got filteredFTFY
>>720543005Not him, but aren't you required to kill Last Judge to access Act 3 or something?
>>720518086Yeah Last Judge and Groal have horrible runbacks, but that's literally it. You'd know if you didn't suck ass at the game and actually got past it.
>>720544325I don't quite think you realize what you just admitted.I'm a jeet because I have no problem with the game's difficulty?You're telling me you're worse at the game than an ESL jeet?You're pissier, whinier, and stupider than a dumb, dense, dark as night sand monkey?I'll accept your concession
>>720544538I haven't gotten to Act 3 yet, but you don't need to kill him to get to the Citadel/Act 2. If you need to kill him later, I have to imagine he's a pushover when you have more upgrades.
>>720543917>poison makes your tools weakerWhy make up bullshit that isn't true
>>720544803I'm not that far either, but I saw someo people mention flea caravan stopping where the boss spawns and it either prevents their questline or something about Act 3.
man Mantis Lords is such a fun fight meanwhile pro gamers here are still running back kek
>>720544435Small dick post
>>720543717Don't let anyone know I told you this, but...
>hollowknight and silksong fags will swear up and down that needing to waste an equip slot on making the map properly work is good design
>>720545114I just drop it if I get stuck at some boss and equip something else to help me. I don't need a map to run back to a boss.
>>720544830What mod is that? Ive been wondering if crests do different damage on hit
>>720545205https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/28It's just a mod that shows hp bars and damage values. All crests do the same base damage (architect's multihit averages out to the same number).
>>720545114you only need it for exploringyou can just take it off for bosses
>>720531032>>720518086I'm trying to figure out how to make the most powerful build possible.The tools and charms I've found so far only provide modest boosts - I've been testing on those big motherfuckers near the first shrine.> Barbed Bracelet : Reduces Hits-To-Kill (HtK) by 2. Steep price as it makes you twice as fragile.> Flint: Reduces HtK by 1? A consumable that must be activated. Limited, best reserved for bosses and minibosses.> Poison: Reduces HtK by 1? Will only be applied to your weapon if you used Flint while carrying the charm.(Poison and Flint might actually not stack, which would be tremendously gay of TC to do. You spend a slot, you should receive a benefit.)> Sword upgrades: Didn't get the chance to test how much extra damage these provide.> Reaper Crest: Does not reduce HtK. Actually probably has less damage-over-time overall due to slower swings. But I still love it. The extra reach, reasonable attack animations, the extra silk generation following a heal, and the non-autistic pogo are a godsend.> Beast crest: Does not reduce HtK. It has some weird activatable life steal mechanic. It seems, while active, like every hit or two regenerates a mask? I also don't like the running attack, the animation shifts you too far forward.> Wanderer: Does not reduce HtK? Has some weird crit mechanic. I genuinely don't get how it works, but its really inconsistent.Am I missing anything?I'm pretty deep into the game.Looks like there are only a couple zones left.Surely these uninspiring specimens cannot be the *only* pieces of equipment for enhancing or modifying nail combat?
>>720544069>the "risk" of Architect is that if you die a lot you will go broke with all shards you burn and rosaries you spend. Yeah and the thing is is that we are gonna die. A lot. Probably not to mooks but definitely to the environment and certainly to bosses.>But tools make the game so easy that you should never die to anything if you pick the right ones for each encounter.Its before its even possible to get the crest itself but Last Judge taught me differently. Its much better to not crutch on tools because you need to get your hits in for meter and thus something like Wanderer is much more preferred.
>>720545356Barbed bracelet seems to add about 25% to your nail's damage. Tested it on 2 different enemies with a level 4 nail.>without barbed bracelet: 15 and 17 damage>with barbed bracelet: 19 and 21 damage
>>720546346Wait, I did not test it troughly but does damage actually change between enemy types?
>>720546346the damage boost is so low it's probably not even good for speedrunning. You can certainly get more bang for your buck out of damage boosting
>>720545024You get this in Act 3, which basically makes this item meaningless by that point.
>>720545356>Am I missing anything?Witch crest.It seems to have slightly lower attack speed, but damage application is much more important in this game than dps on paper.
>>720527190the people bitching probably don't take that wall climb at 10 seconds and instead go right at 9 seconds which leads to a double enemy ambush in a tight corridor
>>720546824Witch crest has become my main crest but the one thing I dislike about it is that you can't casually heal up during pure platforming sections.
>>720546657Enemies have defense in this game, that's why the first nail upgrade seems like shit. Your base nail damage is 5 and the first upgrade is 9, but because of defense that gets reduced to 7ish on a bunch of enemies. However, I don't think defense applies if you have no nail upgrades, I've never seen a swing do less than 5 unless it's a multihit. Some enemies also take more than base damage.
>>720518086Boohoo shitter.Literally go the exhaust organ route instead if you cant handle some basic ass platforming, oh wait you'd just bitch and moan about the mist instead. Git gud or uninstall.
OH NO NO NO NO SILKBROS>https://www.videogameschronicle.com/review/hollow-knight-silksong/
>>720546816>You get this in Act 3you can get it as soon as you can reach the putrified ducts, which you access through memorium, which you access with double jump, which you can go for as soon as you get the clawline, which you can get to through the vaults, after you beat the cogwork dancers
>>720518086This boss is really easy once you know the pattern just don't be impatient and go for risky hits unless you are very good and know fight
>>720548034FUCK THE MISTDELETE THE MISTKILL ALL CHERRYNIGGERSGLAS THEIR ENTIRE MISBEGOTTEN CONTINENT
>>720548316>if you're at least decent at 2D action platformers, the game is perfect with no downsidesWe did it silkbros!!!
>>720548316>needless sadismOnly Bilewater is needlessly sadistic.
>>720546707Compared to fury of the fallen from hollow knight, yeah it kind of sucks. However, you don't have to be at 1 hp for it to work so it is still a pure damage upgrade without a no hit requirement. It's not used in any % speedruns at the moment, but I do wonder if taking the time to pick it up will eventually be found to be worth it to make the following bosses and arena rooms faster. In a 100% speedrun I don't see why it wouldn't be used, you're going to pick it up anyway and there are a lot more fights.
>>720548557bilewater isn't even that terrible once you have all of your movement tools. there's a lot of spots that are suggestive of clawline usageobviously it's going to feel like hell if you try to do it as soon as you reach it, but that's just the way of nonlinear games
>>720522337>shazamfag still crying controllably
>>720526987>Just do this complex parkour segment that you've already beaten every time you fail the bossAbsolute bullshit, and it's the reason Silksong can't even break 80% on Steam. Glad I could contribute to the downvoting.
>>720541937i saw traps down a clearly nondescript hole and i went to investigate. sucks that you are basically forced to take maggot damage unless you have the charm but the real redpill comes from realizing you don't need it for the runback and groal is easier if you become one with shit and cheese him by staying in the muck
>>720549124>he thinks that counts as complexnot even trying to flame, but some of you guys just kind of suck
>>720548435I don't see how you get up to where it is without the super jump.
>>720548435you can have clawline and double jump and a third nail upgrade before cogwork dancers. i know because i did it since i thought cogwork dancer was the pre-final boss of act 2 for some reason
>>720523615>he said on /v/
>>720518086I think that short platforming section was a fun way to get ready for a new try at the boss
>>720547019Going right isn't even that much slower or riskier, you can just pogo right off of the Judge and go straight onto the bell at 0:12
>>720518086Filtered.
>>720549124It has a shit chink translation you retard
>>720549391How do you get into the eastern side of the underworks without beating cogwork dancers? The western side that you fall into from the last judge entrance is blocked off by locked doors and breakable walls from the other side, and the phantom entrance to the citadel puts you basically right in front of the cogwork dancers. The whiteward entrance can't be accessed until you unlock the songclave quest board to make the merchant move in, and I'm fairly certain that only appears after beating cogwork dancers.
>>720549264did you even try?
>>720545114I like the game but I will not argue this position
>>720549257I left a negative review on Steam.
>>720549858I was talking about the Wreath of Purity.
>>720518086there's a shortcut, the whole runback doesn't take very long at all
>>720538451Why do you think just because something was sold for money, that it doesn't have value worth fighting for beyond it being the most accessible? Lets say you go to the bookstore and buy a compilation of Shakespeare's plays. But, you never paid attention in class as a kid and your literacy peaks at basically just colloquial conversation. Pretty normal, to be honest. Every line in that compilation, in a play like Hamlet, will be a struggle for someone that is unfamiliar with the text. It will be difficult, and even at the time the dialect used was deliberately pretty elitist. But obviously, there's something worth getting out of the struggle to understand it. The point is entertainment, but having to work for it isn't a 'rip-off' just because you spent money on it. If you aren't a good reader, a lot of books are going to be challenging. Just like if you aren't good at video games, they'll be hard, too. If not Shakespeare, then you can point to deliberately difficult works of literature, like Greg Egan's sci-fi, Cormac McCarthy's westerns, or Joyce's post-modern works. Silksong is a hard game, undoubtedly. And it is sold for money. But the latter doesn't make it so that bypassing the former is justified purely because it is a piece of entertainment media and therefore should categorically be easily accessible.
>>720540396Castlevania games are mostly pretty easy. They're more cinematic than difficult.
>>720545114I have never used this item in either game because if you're capable of basic map reading you literally never need it
>>720550308Castlevania III (US) is the hardest game I've ever beaten hands down. Note that I did say Classicvanias, so everything before SotN
>>720535089I didn't look at a guide at all and found everything there
>>720550078
>>720543712???You mean the longpin? You get it Shellwood, which is before Blasted Steps.
Brown people thread alert.
>>720526987I wonder if the people who bitched about this ever reached Bilewater. It's 5x worse.
>>720521690Would you rather it just kicked you to the title screen and made you reload your last manual save? Because that is what a shitload of games did before souls made dropping your shit more popular.
>>720542078If you just do a running jump from the first bug platform you skip the enemy every time
>there are "people">right here>right now >who actually suffered through five hours of pointless runback just so they could brang on mongolian basket weaving forum LMAO Silksong completion achivement might very well be the best NPC indicator ever devised.
>>720554078Choosing to persevere through setbacks is the exact opposite of NPC behavior
>>720554078>there are people who can't be bothered to practice their own hobby and improve>the somehow think this makes them better than people who doBig burn from a big man.
>>720532423The platforming is better than 9/10 boss fights.
>>720554275>doing smae thing over and over again is exact opposite of NPC behavior LMAO
>>720534410Imagine actually wanting to fuck retarded women.You wish you could be gay, at least then you'd be able to like the person you jerk off to.
>>720518086Personally the way I view it, is that if u have a respawn point outside of every single boss fight it makes the game feel more "game-y" and "arcade-y", rather than like a real world to be immersed in, that's why player friction is important imo. Immersion is a big part of why Hollowknight and Silksong are good imo.its less immersive for elden ring to spawn me outside of the boss than it is for me to do the runback to O&S in DS1, overall elden ring might be a higher quality game or more immersive in other aspects, but in that specific aspect, it's not.
>>720518086I understand a lot of seethe in this game, and some runbacks are legitimately horseshit like the ones in the lategame sand area and the sewer but this shit is mild. You run there in 15 seconds if you've got a basic grip of the movement.
>>720526987It's really not that bad but if you're someone that gets annoyed when struggling with a boss instead of thinking about what went wrong on the runback then I can see it being frustrating to do often.
>>720518086Just go fight the Phantom instead >Way easier>Way more fun>Little to no backtracking to try again if you fail>Gives u the parryyyy
>>720518086First Sinner was the best boss for this reason.
>>720542672Those fucking grenade guys are pure satanic evil
>>720537242Not sure how spamming tools helped you with Mount Fay. It's purely a platforming speedrun challenge. If anything, throwing tacks everywhere just wastes more time.
I thought Delicate Flower and Lacquer were fun and good sidequests.
>>720518086This game is a chip damage game. Just learn patience and it will be easy.
I’m up to the Shellwood. When does this game get fun? I played Hollow Knight from start to finish over the course of a week but I keep taking breaks from Silksong to play other games.
>>720542228No way the 2nd part is trueThe boss is too high effort to neutralize all it's moveset by just staying in the water. Chances are they expected people to treat Maggotwater like lava and avoid it, when you don't have to give a fuck once infested
>>720559405>When does this game get fun?Once you get the hookshot + 2 nail upgrades.
>>720518086I watched a female streamer beat this in 3 tries while casually talking to her chat.
>>720518086It takes 20 seconds
Fuck the long runbacks in this fucking game. I cant remember it ever being this bad in the first game.The annoying time wasting backtracking is turning this game into a 6/10 for me instead of a 9/10
>>720548316>all 3 negatives are just different flavour of "I'm a shitter"
>>720535702>RESPECT MY TIME>RESPECT MY TIME>RESPCT RESPEC RRSPRCT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEthis is nothing more than a dog whistle that you have a pathological compulsive need to complain. you are addicted to rage. that tight feeling in your chest, that hot rush in your ears, that furling of your brow when you get to be angry at something the internet told you you get to be angry about? you are addicted to it. please seek help, or better yet, kill yourself
>>720532423complaining about the concept of platforming in video games has to be one of the most lame and retarded things ever, holy shit. just say you don't like video games and get a job, dumbass
>>720560541A game wastes hours of your time for virtually no reason other than to inflate gametime. >N-N-NO THIS IS ACKSHUALLY A GOOD THINGStfu bootlicker
>>720560541Seethe retard. Your flawed game isn't winning GOTY.
>>720518086>He hasn't killed GroalGET A LOAD OF THIS TRANNY!
>>720560998>bootlickerWhat's with subhumans the use of this word?
>>720561518Nice ad hominems midwit. How about you come up with actual arguments why long runbacks to bossfights are a good thing
>jakshitargument invalidatedgo back
>>720561612>IT'S LE PART OF THE BOSS!!No, it's padding for play time, and therefore, dishonest game design. Simple as.
>>720560541>got so little going on in life that he doesn’t respect his own timenot the brag you think it is, anon
>>720561719>Xhe is so angry xhe forgot to quote HAHAHA!
