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Yes
the only way to sustain their rapidly dying playerbase is to groom toddlers

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>>720518357
They avoided the PS3 tier hardware because Iwata was a developer himself who listened to his developers who warned that teams would collapse because they didn't know how to adapt and staff up, and could keep making better games if they stayed on the same team-size and methodology to create Renderware era games. Same with Wii U. They waited until they had the learned lessons of how to enter HD development with more fluid animations and more menial detail work that needs to be done to pass for modern hardware, and the same with adapting to the PS4 generation on Switch 2.
They're in the same decline sony was in 2015. Realizing they only have headroom for a handful of franchises as development staffing has ballooned and costs rise astronomically. They can't justify making open and shut games like in the past based on a 60 dollar price tag considering how much more expensive making "the same stuff" is at a higher level of fidelity and salaries to pay. So they find ways to lucratize it otherwise. Live Service elements, aggressive DLC and in their case, aggressive pricing.
It's a sign that you can't go any further without enshitification and we're seeing the signs of that.

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>>720518552
>it's real
Just fucking kill me.

>>720518357
Switch 2 broke records for how much it sold at release and continues to get exclusives in it's first 6 months, you aren't their audience. The next Pokemon game Legends Z-A is also gonna sell like 10 million in it's first month, you aren't their target audience. Nintendo has a bunch more games coming out in 2026, you aren't their target audience. Nintendo can raise their prices because they know people can afford it even if your little friend group can't, you aren't their target audience.

>>720519471
Nice cope

>>720519471
>you aren't their target audience
You can repeat this all you want. /v/ is still more than eager to line Nintendo's pockets.
Also, modern Nintendo products may be aimed at the 1-3 year old demographic, but that isn't an excuse to make shit products. Treating children like retards is why our generation is full of retards.

>>720519705
Not an argument

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>>720519471
It very well could drop off soon. GTA 6 is going to likely stunt it a whole lot. GTA 6 is going to bulldoze everything in the industry.

>>720518940
And here I thought Nintendo by sticking to lower-powered hardware would avoid these pitfalls.

Just don't buy it then. I'm not. Switch 2 looked like another Wii U from the start and I'm not falling for that again.

I don't care about their other shit, like movies and theme parks. Fuck off.

>>720519790
The entire western industry is in terminal decline. GTA 6 is not going to stop it, it will be just another soulless product of its environment. Marketing and budget can only take you so far, doubling down on them is just a recipe for disaster.

>>720519790
I am not scanning my face to play a shitty video game.

>>720519923
It wouldn't because the hardware power itself has nothing to do with why you need 200 people to suddenly make a game of the same scope.
It's because you need more "professional" workers the more advanced it gets. Individuals being specialized in just rock formations. Animation staff who can not just get the jump and fall animations right but make sure there's animation blending between all states of animation.
A Bokoblin in BotW has about 20x more work put into it than most enemies in Twilight Princess combined. That requires a lot of people with specialized skills.
This has long been my problem with AAA. I enjoyed games when they were more make believe. A map was just some people putting 3D geometry together in a whiff of fancy and making it look like whatever inspired them. But since the PS4 you need like a "Building Architect" to make buildings that look like real models built to scale, and with knowledgeable history in architecture to be super duper professional. It takes the charm out of games IMO. It used to be you could tell that a game was inspired by a movie they really liked and they copied the look and feel of certain things. but now games have specialists who have entire educations in a single field that's used on individual assets in the game.

That's also why everything becomes so samey across the entire industry. The methodology is pretty much 1:1 across way more companies at this point, so no matter where you work, you're told to perform the same tasks the same way, because it's all one big mind-meld of retardation. That's also why Nintendo is doing Open World for everything, and why Ubisoft did it to start with.

>>720520551
Is the more powerful hardware and expectations to take advantage of it not the main reason for the drive to make games more "advanced" like this? Otherwise, what's stopping them from just continuing to make PS2/PS3/Vita-level games at the output they used to be able to maintain? Even during the Switch era, they still had a fairly respectable output level and quality, but now Switch 2, unless something changes, is shaping up to be a borderline no-games machine just like the PS5. Not to mention AAA isn't even a mark of quality any more because of all the outsourcing, just look at Starfield. This shit also always seems to go in hand with doubling down on ESG/DEI pandering, probably because they now need the investments to not implode.

>>720518357
>and JRPG shovelware.
You fucking wish. The only JRPG was MHS3.

>>720519790
Dan Houser leaving should be the first read flag about GTA6. Don’t get too cocky with that game lol.

Besides Nintendo is literally one of the only companies that does not care or rely on GTA. Switch 1 already proved this.

Sony and Xbox need GTA URGENTLY both console sales vanishing thanos styles. But don’t get too cocky coz Dan Houser is not here. Once again. That game could end being the biggest dump in gaming history. Don’t be shocked.

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They were in fact, messing around.

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>Another anti nintendo thread
>Just forget that every other company out there is worse

>>720518357
Them doing scummy things isn't new, I get that. But 2024 felt like there was a new controversy from them every month on top of a relatively tame lineup.
Which made sense a new console was around the corner, but holy shit did they amplify the anti consumerism tenfold when rolling out Switch 2.
Right off the bat the 2017 energy wasn't there with that lame, cold infographic reveal. Then we got the proper direct and things felt exciting again.. until they didn't because they were hiding the obscene pricing. Now we're here a few months after launch and shit still sucks

>>720518357
It's funny how I never see anyone cry and whine like this when Sony and Microsoft do the exact same things, nor do I ever see months or years of nonstop threads about how evil and demonic Sony and Microsoft are, but Nintendo coughs and /v/irgins go absolutely chimpanzee feral with manufactured outrage.

macaco thread

>>720518357
It’s not just that Nintendo is greedy. It’s also that they make games nobody asked for like another Mario Tennis instead of a new Mario baseball game which had its previous installment come out 17 years ago. DLC for DK Bananza when Mario Kart World needed it far more...

>>720518552
>>720518357
Nintenchad here. This is what's actually happening:
1. All the old guys that are responsible for every Nintendo game that you love is basically getting too old. Nintendo has diverted away from games because they WILL need other sources of income because the games are going to suffer hard once the old timers are gone.

2. They bumped up the price on everything because the current president is a retard businessman. Right now their strategy is "Nintendo is a premium product, and people WILL pay the premium price." That means games, accessories, controllers, consoles, even fucking Amiibo have been price hiked to a ridiculous amount. Amiibo used to be $13 each. The latest Street Fighter 6 Amiibo were $40. They are right that people WILL pay these prices, but that's not the first wave. There are millions of people who bought a Switch who are not capable of spending what Nintendo is asking. Which means that sales for Nintendo games is going to slow down and drop HARD compared to the Switch 1. It is NOT going to sell like the previous system because Nintendo has priced out a lot of people. Even myself, I have no intention of spending $80 for games. I already have a fuck huge backlog of Switch 1 games, and I'm sure many people are the same.

>>720518940
I expect this generation to last very long and the next, if ever to not really have a graphical leap. The next jump is depending on what they can go for that's cheap. I say AI will be next for Nintendo and that will be way off, and I mean way off, like 20 years. Valve is probably going that same direction after the Steam Deck 2, where we won't see another deck for at least 2 decades. The generational leap for Switch 3 has to be a generational leap and I don't see that happening in 10 years.

>>720519790
>GTA 6
Oh my god, would you shut up

>>720524658
>Oh my god, would you shut up
It's not going to kill you to acknowledge that a highly anticipated game outside of Nintendo's ecosystem is in fact coming out, anon.

>>720519471
Pokemon will do gangbusters as always but I'm imagining the bulk of that will be Switch 1, like 80%

>>720526404
Indeed, even in threads that have nothing to do with it we need to turn discussion to it.

>>720519471
>Nintendo can raise their prices because they know people can afford it
I hope they keep doing it

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>>720522957
Dan houser's a shit writer and RDR2's pathetically cucked story is proof of that. Regardless, no one plays GTA for the story. As long as the game is fun enough it'll be a hit. Funny, it's the same philosophy Nintendo used to have.

>>720526884
GTA/RDR stories ain't too bad desu. I've definitely seen shittier writing

>>720526404
You need to stop using it as a clutch in every thread. GTA 6 will not save the AAA industry, it will not save the PlayStation, and it will not save the Xbox, it's over.

>>720527083
>GTA isn't going to sell actually

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Nintendo Doom posting up and at it again eh?

Remember when everyone was saying the Switch 1 would be their final console?

>>720527770
>I sure hope Nintendo gets away with lowering the bar so that Sony and Microsoft can lower the bar further so that Nintendo can lower it even further, etc

>>720527420
Not at $100 and it won't be enough to pay off Rockstars budget.

>>720528036
Sony and Microsoft already lowered the bar so much that both are going third party, Microsoft even harder than Sony going by the next or should I say last Xbox coming in 2027.

>>720520551
This is so stupid to me when rendering GameCube and PS2 games in emulators at 4k genuinely looks better than most modern AAA games, and what you're talking about with the animation blending has gameplay consequences that make movement feel much, much worse. Polygon counts and animation quality were already as good in the 6th generation as they ever needed to be, and I have never understood why simply increasing the resolution games of that quality run at or increasing polygon counts and texture resolution requires so much more work.

>>720526884
>>720527014
My point being that it’s not just the story that will be shit. Dan isn’t just writer. He is one of the co-founders of Rockstar Games lol. He’s the creative entity of many rockstar titles lol. What does that tell you? Development is going smoothly? and no creative differences, right? when some of the leads leave???

People shat and suspected about Fair Games, Marathon, Concord, etc.

GTA6 had multiple delays plus the main creative left. Yet all is well?? Lmao.

We shall see at release date. I suspect an even worse Cyberpunk fiasco.

>>720518357
Doesn’t matter as long as they have 10s of millions of terminally autistic Nintendo Adults who buy anything they shit out

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>>720518552
>mfw

>>720519790
the switch never had a GTA game(except the trilogy) and it outsold every console i nhistory

>>720530065
like with the WiiU and gamecube, right?

>>720530034
If GTA6 is bad, that might be what actually sends the USA over the dge. lmfao. I can just imagine

>>720530034
Even if GTAVI is a franchise killing bomb, there is no way it's not going to make bank. GTAV sold over 200M copies, literally the bestselling game after Minecraft

>>720523383
>>Just forget that every other company out there is worse
The difference is I don't care about what other jewish companies are doing. Nintendo has always done shady shit but there was a point where they clearly actually cared about the consumer.
Remember Nintendo Selects?
They got to the end of a generation and started selling their big titles at a decent discount.
Now we get 0 discounts on anything and fuck, games like Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 cost more than they did on Wii U because Nintendo increased the internal resolution and re-did the HUD.

>>720530034
Snoys and Xbots need this game but they're ignoring the fact that Xbox is dead, and I mean actually dead going by leaks while PlayStation is dying.

>>720518940
>They're in the same decline sony was in 2015. Realizing they only have headroom for a handful of franchises as development staffing has ballooned and costs rise astronomically.
Actually I think they don't have enough people. The company is publicly traded (I own shares) but they are ultra secretive because of patent infringement or licensing and stealing of video game secrets. Like Yamauchi was really hard on patent ownership when Japan entered the video and electronics age in the 70s and 80s. I think their games become fewer and fewer because they really don't have that much staff. If you've noticed they seem to outsource more titles or they have a nice little roster of 2nd and 3rd party devs that have become the custodians to certain IPs.

Also PlayStation was different. I'm sure a lot of the money PlayStation made was funneled back to Sony Corp, and they split that money into TVs, laptops, phones, etc. If PlayStation didn't have a parent company I think the current landscape would have been very different and interesting. Nintendo is extremely wealthy in cash. Like they hold billions in Japanese currency, probably a shit ton in foreign currency too from their satellite offices, stashed in banks. When the Wii U failed there were people online mentioning that Nintendo (of Japan) had so much ready cash that they could have 3 or 4, or 4 or 5 Wii U or Virtual Boy style flops in a row before they would be in trouble financially. Maybe two decades of absolute duds before they need a new plan. I think another thing that Sony suffered from was relying so much on third party devs. And it's because budgets skyrocketed for third parties. They all chased the meme graphics and effects and partially to blame was Microsoft and Sony pushing "next gen" consoles. So time is longer, meaning licensing fees take longer to appear which becomes PlayStation's big source of revenue.

>>720527770
The WiiU was their final console.

>>720530620
>sold
PFFFT

>>720532739
>The WiiU was their final "home" console
Fixed

>>720518357
It feels like the Switch 2 is the worst piece of shit I could had ever own as a console, it's a device that is perpetually asking for more money with no payoff.
I don't think I'll ever get my money's worth.

>>720520551
>PS4 you need like a "Building Architect" to make buildings that look like real models built to scale
Lol, games like Painkiller developed by hungry eastern yurops had way more detail put into the architecture of the building than any Pissstation 5 game.
All two of them.

Stop judging a console so early. Even the PS3 had plenty of games at the end. It's okay to laugh at the PS4 though and soon at the PS5

>>720523383
>But X is worse
Nice defense retard.
Nobody talks about the Ps5 or the Xbox because they are a joke.
I have a hard time processing that we are already talking about a possible PS6 next year when it feels the launch of the PS5 was yesterday because absolutely nothing of worth came from it, Astrobot is just Super Mario Galaxy with Funkos.
The PS5 was even less noteworthy than the PS4.

Xbox is dead and buried and soon Microsoft as a whole will follow, imagine losing to Pro-Bono OS developed through tips and volunteer work. The power of ten thousand pajeets, lol lmao. I will get the hardest erection of my life when MS stops being a publicly traded company.

Nintendo on the other hand, it sucks, this is not the direction I wanted for them. A $600 console with a mandatory subscription, a shitty licensing system and almost $100 games not including DLC? It is as if they were admitting they cannot compete with mobile so they won't even try and it is stupid really. Indie games on PC are $20 but they are suddenly $40 to $80 depending if you want a "physical" version? Dumb.

>>720533658
>Nintendo truly has become Disney and that's no compliment.
Exactly.
It is the Disney playbook which is something WB followed damning themselves.
Nintendo should be aiming for families, not the childless "Disney / Tendie" Adults.

>>720519923
>>720520551
Donkey Kong Bananza has 500 people, which is tiny compared to the 5 thousand fuckers on an Ubisoft game. But TP has about 250. That's still a significant increase.

>>720521887
I thought that they haven't even released dev kits for switch 2 yet for a lot of third parties.

Doomed since 1889

>>720518357
Man I'm so fucking happy I foresaw the first year of Switch 2 when it launched with 1 good, albeit open world slop, game. To credit Nintendo where credit's due, they managed to fuck it up even more than I anticipated. Like, wow...

>>720518552
>toddler game gets toddler merch
no way

>>720518357
They're shifting the brand to become Japanese Disney, a multimedia megacorp. It will work, they will make hundreds of billions of dollars no matter how shit their products are or how morally reprehensible their actions.

>>720519004
>>720518552
how brown and poor are you to have reached the age of 20+ without noticing nintendo toys and clothes existed? Nintendo has always actively done merchandising since the NES era and never slowed it down.

>>720519471
The people who bought the Switch 2 in the first 4 days are tendies who were going to buy it anyways and are going to buy the Virtual Boy made of cardboard.
Since then (Early June, 3 (three) months ago) sales went from 3.5 million in 4 days to 6.5 million in 3 months.
And this direct was so shit it probably scared off tons of people from buying a Switch 2.

>>720523383
Your honor, my client killed a family of 5, sure, BUT this other guy killed a family of 6!

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>>720534484
Remember when Furukawa said this back in 2019?
Remember when he also said Nintendo doesn't censor third-party games in the same year?
I remember.

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Nintendo has been in a slow decline since Iwata's death

Now they are going full jew after getting cocky over the Switch's success

It's over for Nintendo

>>720534484
Yup

>>720534986
He’s still right. Disney is trying to be like Nintendo.

>>720534919
>no thread is made about the guy who killed 6 because no one cares about that nobody
lol

>>720535068
And the worst part is that it’s actually working. You’ve got grown-ass men lining up day one for Mario Kart remasters and Zelda keychains, and they’ll defend $70 ports of decade-old games like it’s a war crime to mention emulation. Nintendo figured out they don’t need to innovate anymore, just drip nostalgia and slap a fresh price tag on it.

>>720535859
That's the point, the future of gaming is to be owned by Nintendo and Valve, nothing more.

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>>720518357
The abosulte state of this board lmao.

This mind rape is never ending.

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>>720535859
>just drip nostalgia

Must make you seethe that Nintendo have such a rich cultural legacy and their competitors have absolutely fucking NOTHING.

When are Sony and Microsoft opening a museum?

I was so disappointed in Nintendo throughout their casual Wii era and then during their Wii U funeral, that I can't really perceive anything they're doing as much of a disappointment. At least they still make some actually great games on occasion. Everything else can be for the children

>>720519790

GTA is normieslop for brainlets and always has been

It's more Switch 1 is still selling so they are keeping Switch 2 lackluster so those sales aren't harmed.

They would have done this with GBA and DS too but those died pretty quick after the new console came out so they didn't have to.

>>720536025
>6 million
oy vey

the real issue being that no matter how shitty this was, it's still miles away better than the competition who reported everything to next year.

>>720518357
Their last Nintendo Direct was 99% baby games so I guess that's a yes.

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yeah but have ever considered that Nintendo is my actual friend and i will support them until the day i die?

>Muh baby games
I dunno what you retards were expecting from Nintendo, half their catalog has always been kid games.
Maybe the problem is you aren't the target audience anymore.

>>720539702
>muh baby games
There's high chances people ragequit metroid mid way, but 100% GTA6 in the first week.

>>720539702
The Switch 2 is the best platform for handheld gaming at the moment

Don't worry, Nintendo will release switch 2 oled edition a year or 2 later and sell even more as tendies double dip.

>>720519471
Yeah I'm starting to see that. I bought a Switch 2 for the upgraded Switch games, I tuned in to the Direct hoping to see a new Xenoblade and that From soft game. When the final reveal was Fire Emblem it kind of hit me that I'd essentially wasted an hour watching and aside from Metroid it's going to be some dry spell on the thing for me.

>>720518357
Nintendo Switch 2 overview

Out already:
New Mario Kart
New 3D DK Platformer

Announced and coming eventually:
New Metroid Prime
New Pokemon Legends
New Pokemon Minecraft Spin-off
New Yoshi
New Kirby Air Ride
New Mario Tennis
New Splatoon Spin-off
New Fire Emblem
New Rhythm Heaven
New Tomodachi Life

No indication it's even in development:
New Smash
New Animal Crossing
New 3D Zelda
New 2D Zelda
New 3D Mario Platformer
New 2D Mario Platformer
New Mainline Pokemon
New Mario Party
New Wii/Switch Sports
New Ring Fit/Wii Fit
New Luigi's Mansion
New Mainline Splatoon
New Mario Maker
New 3D Kirby
New 2D Kirby
New Clubhouse Games
New Donkey Kong Country
New Pikmin
New Paper Mario
New Mario & Luigi
New Mario RPG
New 2D Metroid
Next Pokemon Snap
New Arms
New Xenoblade
New Mario Golf
New Mario Baseball
New Mario Soccer
New Captain Toad
New Pokemon Mystery Dungeon
New Pokken
New WarioWare
New Wario Land
New Mario vs Donkey Kong
New Mario at the Olympic Games
New Nintendo Land
New Pokemon Stadium/Colosseum/XD
New Traditional Star Fox
New Star Fox Adventures
New F-Zero
New Kid Icarus
New Duck Hunt
New Ice Climber
New Pokemon Puzzle League
New Golden Sun
New Advance Wars
New Pokemon Pinball
New Mother
New Fossil Fighters
New Pokemon TCG RPG
New Kuru Kuru Kururin
New Chibi Robo
New Pokemon Channel/Hey You Pikachu
New Diddy Kong Racing
New Excitebike
New Pilotwings
New Starfy

Overall, I think it's weird how little they prepared for their brand new console's first year. There's almost nothing out and very little coming anytime soon.

>>720539820
Not when the steam deck exists

>>720519471
>you aren't their target audience.
Yeah I'm not a little kid.

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Nintendo is so popular that /v/ never shuts up about them
did anyone remember the last state of play? when was microsoft's last thing? it's nintendo 24/7 with this board

>>720540695
I think people would care about other big publishers if they still published any games

Microsoft and Sony don't really seem to be interested in doing that much anymore

>>720540695
>>720540723
Nintendo are slowing down too, don't get me wrong (>>720540260) but they still have some semblance of output still, unlike the others

>>720540754
>Nintendo are slowing down too
Not really no, it's only been a few months and already we have a line up of first party games filling up the rest of the year, more so than the first year of the switch

>>720519471
Based.

>>720540912
I mean maybe if you count stuff like Drag n Drive but I dunno man, that shit is lame

>>720540953
Whether a game is good or bad doesn't take away from the time used to make it. We're talking strictly about output, remember?

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Something definitely shifted with the theme park, the movie, $80 Zelda and firing Charles martinet.

This is a new era of modern Nintendo and it's been very strange. Soulless, the new games don't seem to have anywhere near the level of quality or polish as they used to. This new era seems quite clearly more greedy. They're doing DLC announcements before games are even out. I don't know if there was a major shift in management or stock holders or something. It's definitely the business suits pulling the strings thats the reason.

I am not terribly optimistic for the future.

>>720541256
>firing Charles martinet.
they're paying him to fly around and interact with fans
he's getting a cushy "job" from nintendo as a thank you

>>720541256
Eh, they just stopped being Jewish and focused more on game quality than they were under iwata.
I mean, that's why they're making games with varied pricing and have kept Martinet on as an ambassador of sorts when he wanted to stop.

>>720541421
You forgot to mention that they're supporting older games with new content.

>>720541505
They do the bare minimum extra content so they can have an excuse to sell 4+ year old games for $80. These expansions add very little and you know it.

>>720541623
the expansions are 20 bucks anon, the kirby one is great

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>>720541667
>the kirby one is great
you people just don't care about quality anymore, really do you?

>>720541667
I don't want expansions, I'd rather they just made new games. DLC doesn't really interest me

>>720541760
you don't play videogames. You are just there to vent like a fake streamer

>>720541623
A full expansion is hardly the bare minimum. They could have taken the Hitman 3 route and forced players to buy a whole new version of the game if they bought physically only to find out that it's the exact same game with graphics updates.

>>720541786
you're getting both. not like they're going to stop making new games.

>>720541760
>you people just don't care about quality anymore
Of course not. Graphics don't mean a thing to actual gameplay.

>>720540260
>There's almost nothing out and very little coming anytime soon.

Mental illness lmao

>>720541786
>DLC doesn't really interest me
You should stop looking at it like a zoomer where all DLC is just mtx, "plop a new npc in an existing area" deal. Prior to this developers actually made expansions that added more than just one quest with new areas, stories, bosses etc.
This is what Nintendo has been doing since iwata died.

>>720540260
>>720540260
>10 coming games 3months in
Seems fine to me. I think the only down is no main mario or zelda yet.

>>720541786
Life was never about you

>>720542006
That's the only thing casuals ever cared about. I mean, why do you think anti-tendies would always act as if those were the only two games that existed?

I'll decide this when Splatoon 4 is actually out.

the direct wasn't bad, just not amazing either.
the prices for wii games are insane tho, same as the prior nintendo rom collection
Bananza won

>>720540260
It's a bit weird how they launched with a racing game then a few months later they're launching another racing game with Air Ride.

>>720518357
We’re in the “arrogant” stage in the cycle right now. Sega did it with the Saturn, Sony did it with the PS3, and MS did it with the Xbox One.

>>720540260
Honestly I think they were hoping the Switch would get another year, which I suppose makes sense. They managed to make the Switch 1 launch year stacked by starving the WiiU for it's last 2 years, but the Switch 1 was still successful so they couldn't exactly starve it. The cross play is also a lot more over the top than on the WiiU so it's obviously to support both platforms for a year or two. I think having Metroid and Pokémon on both platforms will cause them both to break sales records, but it would be better in the long run surely to invest in the Switch 2 full time. I have a feeling Metroid and Pokémon are going to be held back hard by launching on both. Worst case scenario is that a new mainline Zelda or Mario are on both. I applaud them for not launching Mario Kart on both.

>>720541256
It's this Shitaro Furukawa faggot. Iwata may have made casuzlied babbyshit but at least Nintendo still tried new things back then. Now it's all soulless corporatized garbage.

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>>720542531
>Nintendo still tried new things back then

>>720519923
Powercreep for low powered hardware was inevitable. The low powered hardware of today is the PS4, and that's when game development costs got really out of control.

>>720542520
>They managed to make the Switch 1 launch year stacked by starving the WiiU for it's last 2 years,
You know they have more first year first party games on the horizon for the switch 2 than they did the switch 1, right?

>>720542531
>Iwata may have made casuzlied babbyshit but at least Nintendo still tried new things back then
>Zelda GC port
>Zelda GC port
>N64 Zelda port for 3ds
>N64 Zelda port for 3ds
>3d Mario on 3ds
>immediately rehash that 3d Mario on Wii u
>rehash kirby Canvas curse but infinitely worse
>rehash Return to Dreamland but with new cinematic power setpiece that did a BIIIIIG thing again just like RTDL
>the worst Mario golf game on 3ds with no story mode
>the second worst Mario tennis game on 3ds with no story mode
>THE worst Mario tennis game on Wii U with no story mode
>paper Mario with stickers
>paper Mario with stickers rehash on Wii u
>NSMB rehash on 3ds
>NSMB rehash on Wii U in the same fucking year
There's a reason why no one likes the Iwata era because they not only made casualised babbyshit but because they didn't try anything new, they tried to coast entirely on fucking brand. It was literally the soulless "corporatized" garbage you think Nintendo is now.

>>720543092
Oh yeah I forgot the other Zelda game
>rehash Lttp but call it a new game

>>720543092
>NSMB rehash on 3ds
>NSMB rehash on Wii U in the same fucking year
oh right, almost forgot how much i hated that series

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You WILL buy the $80 base games and their $20-30 DLCs two months after launch

>>720518357
Yes, and this has been obvious for good long while to anyone who grew up with them.

>>720518357
No. Civilization as a whole is. All the market expansion possible has ocurred and instead of just accepting they can sit back and make a decent profit forever more by making decent quality products they need to increase profit above inflation rate year on year in perpetuity.
So everything will have the cost artificially raised, everything will be made for cheaper cost and cutting corners, and everything will eventually tip over the cliff of quality and turn to utter dogshit.
Then people stop buying and the system eventually collapses as a result.

Nintendo is not immune to this. Not even close, and the days they were run by smart people are long over.

>>720519471
>Switch 2 broke records for how much it sold at release
This cope is funny and I shouldn't have to explain why.

>>720542638
>posts casualized babbyshit new thing
Thanks for proving the point.

>>720543310
>and the days they were run by smart people are long over.
And what era is that to you.

it's almost too funny how much attention nintendo gets everywhere
its all anyone ever talks about

>>720543481
Nintendo Derangement Syndrome is at an all time high.

It makes sense considering how irrelevant the likes of Sony and Microsoft are now.

>>720542832
How many are as big league as a new Mario, Smash and Zelda?

>>720543481
this is exactly why nintendo is doing so well
even doomers exclusively talk about nintendo
they are interlinked with video game culture

>>720543481
>>720543521
>>720543713
Delusional tendies

>>720519790
I hope this normie-loved shitty game flops, lmao.
GTA fans are so fucking annoying

>>720543841
you know you can't stop talking about nintendo
just try to go one day without thinking about them

>>720543841
You're going to cry about Nintendo for the foreseeable future and no matter how much you cry and wail Nintendo will be extremely successful.

Hope you're ready to cry again when the next mario movie makes another billion dollars.

>>720543619
"big league"? Why do you care about how popular the brand is more than the game itself?
How popular something is doesn't change the fact that it exists
We still have a new Mario Kart
A new 3d donkey Kong game
A new new Metroid prime game
A new pokemon game
A new fire emblem game
A new splatoon game
A new Kirby game

Also, you just completely glossed over the fact that he said "first year" Smash wasn't a first year game all there was in the first year of the switch was
>botw
>8 deluxe
>odyssey
>splatoon 2
>xeno 2
I think tennis aces and star allies

>>720526404
Maybe but saying it will "bulldoze" when no prior Rockstar game bulldozed shit (in fact they often even struggle to get GOTY awards) feels like it's coping too.

They ARE good games, but rarely even the best games released THAT year, because while they are technologically impressive, on the gameplay side, ESPECIALLY on the mission design side they are rarely anything beyond "mediocre". And quite often even quite bad. It's insane how on rails these games are for how open they present themselves. Your average MMO quest has more player freedom than the average Rockstar game mission. From a gameplay design perspective they are crazy archaic.

MANY people will play GTA6, sure... but it's not gonna stop them from buying other games, either.

>>720543092
Iwata was president in 2002 you dumb fucking zoomer.
>cel-shaded zelda (babbyshit but still tried something new)
>smash bros. with gorillions of characters and crossovers (i'm not a fan of smash rosterfag bullshit, but again at least they tried something new)
>mario kart with two racers/double items
>four swords multiplayer zelda
>star fox adventure game
>metroid prime
>mario galaxy
>wii sports
>donkey kong country made by retro

>>720543890
>We still have a new Mario Kart
>A new 3d donkey Kong game
>A new new Metroid prime game
>A new pokemon game
>A new fire emblem game
>A new splatoon game
>A new Kirby game
None of them are new

>>720542832
Nintendo should've saved ToTK for the switch 2 launch.

>>720544075
Iwata and Reggie tried to sabotage Xenoblade from becoming a franchise.

>>720544116
>xenoblade
Literally no one fucking cares if its killed.

>>720544116
And they're also the same people who listened to fans and released Xenoblade, Last Story, and Pandora's Tower in English. Doug Bowser is an empty suit who would never.

>>720543890
The Splatoon and Kirby games are spinoffs and Pokemon is basically shovelware quality now, it's disingenuous to mention those.

>they dont count because i said so

>>720544217
They dont count because they are games of lower quality

>>720544201
You're just making the sane nonsense argument. You're not arguing what the game is you're just saying it doesn't count because you don't want it to.

>>720544245
what standard of quality are you comparing nintendo games to?

>>720544075
>Skyward sword waggle
>smash bros brawl's tripping and extremely unbalanced roster
>Metroid other m
>endless "WII party" and "WII Fit"
just the worst era for nintendo games

>>720544264
The big leagues i.e. 3D mario, mainline zelda, smash bros etc.

>>720544178
Yeah, sure. Because being basically forced to do so is totally listening to the fans.
Meanwhile in the modern day we're just getting games like famicom detective club, including sequels and they're being localised without any threats or rallying

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>>720518552
>Nintendo's strategy with Mario is to appeal to children so refresh the fanbase and replace older players

Damn... I thought Nintendo wanted Mario to slowly die off with its playerbase. I never would have guessed they'd wanted it to go on for as long as possible.

>>720544245
Bro I've seen videos of tendies being more hyped for Legends ZA than anything else at the last Direct, even after SV and it's shitty DLC, how they can defend the state of that series is beyond me. Nintendo fans deserve to be treated poorly.

>>720518357
None of this is unique to Nintendo, we have hit peak Remake/Remaster culture.

>>720544075
>nostalgiafagging cubesnoy
yawn. most of that shit is horrendous. imagine shilling waggleshit and zelda: gay empty ocean edition.
the cubie years is the worst era of nintendo

>>720544345
*Pokemon fans deserve to be treated poorly
I refuse to be in the same category as them

>>720544075
>Iwata was president in 2002 you dumb fucking zoomer.
You're calling people fucking zoomers but literally everything you mentioned was developed under Yamauchi.
You can't even give him the DS or Wii itself since they were too, the DS was literally his idea.

Also you can see the moment that Iwata was fucked in 2009 after Miyamoto stepped down as an active worker and sales of the wii fucking stagnated hard.

>>720544374
But no other game developer is abusing remake/remasters like Nintendo

>>720518357
Mario Movie=Sonyfornia

>>720544345
>how they can defend the state of that series is beyond me.
It's because you're a zoomer.
That's not a joke either, your generation lack the ability to compare and contrast or judge things on an objective level ie all you can do b is judge a book by it's cover.
Which is understandable given you grew up in an era where the advertising was focused entirely on graphics rather than gameplay, I mean, back in the day it was all about Mario's new abilities or the speed sonic can hit in a level but now it's all about how many wrinkles a game engine an render on a Horse's scrotum and it reacting to the cold.

>macaco thread
The only thing that's in terminal decline is your life, caco. You old putrid fuck. Do I need to call the nurse to come change your colostomy bag or something, because you've been pissing and shitting yourself for days now

-1 karma to Sony btw

>>720544479
Tell that to Square Enix and Sony.
Hell I'm pretty sure tlou has more ports and remakes than original games.

>>720544704
Nigga look at Pokemon ZA and tell me with a straight face it's worth $70

>>720544835
It's worth $70 :)

>>720518357
I'm kinda relieved gaming is finally. Nothing to look forward to.

>>720544835
>look
See what I mean.
You haven't even made an argument as to why it's bad or even suggested better games and said why they're good.
You're literally incapable of it.

>>720545003
Fidelity usually has a lot to do with budget and how much things should cost given that pokemon looks worse than most phone games that get churned out with AI it probably shouldn't cost as much as a AAA game. It's also quite literally the same shit over and over and over so it isn't like the gameplay is some kind of marvel either.

>>720523383
>worse
I think that with each decision Nintendo makes this becomes less and less true
And already wasn't very true to begin with

EA, Ubisoft and Activision don't have the same decades-long reputation of actively fucking over fan-made projects and events for literally no reason.
They don't have decades of aggressive litigation.
They don't have a cult of bootlickers who defend every anti-consumer practice they pull out.

>>720545276
>EA, Ubisoft and Activision don't have the same decades-long reputation of actively fucking over fan-made projects and events for literally no reason.
they just have decade long reputations of actively fucking over fans in general
>They don't have a cult of bootlickers who defend every anti-consumer practice they pull out.
COD, Battlefield, the sims are still doing well with all the MTX bullshit
you even defending them means they have bootlickers

>>720518357
That's the cost of being publicly traded. The line must go up

>>720544835
I've bought Japanese third-party games for around that price range if not more, and they're hardly powerhouses.
Casuals like yourself wouldn't even look at Earth Defense Force, my number one franchise, and usually claimed it wasn't worth its full price of 60 ~ 70 bucks due of graphics too.

>>720524243
I don't mind Mario Tennis, but what they've shown of the new one has been so limp it's baffling. "Look, we've added racket selection, now you can do cool racket things with new rackets!", like, that's something so baisic you'd just show in the trailer and leave players to speculate, not praise as THE selling point of the new game.

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>>720545276
>EA, Ubisoft and Activision

Ubisoft's latest Assassin Creed has MTX in a $70 singleplayer game. Like what kind of cuckoo clock world are you living in?

Just because there isn't some braind-dead youtuber spazzing out infront of a camera about it doesn't mean those publishers aren't squeezing their audiences harder than Nintendo.

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I'm not joking. This might be the funniest thing they've ever done.

A Virtual Boy made out of leftover Labo cardboard.

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>>720546572
>had hardware tailor made for virtual boy games
>ignored it
>went back to google cardboard
Though I've heard that Switch 2 has motion controls in the tablet itself, so they might actually give us cardboard VR later down the line and this is just a test run.

>>720518357
The problem that these companies arrive at is that they reach market saturation. At 160 million Switch 1 consoles sold, they've essentially hit their limit on how many people are willing to buy their games with their current model so they branch out and try to appeal to other newer audiences with their games instead and in this game Nintendo is chasing after the open world normalfag Sony gamer.

Chasing after new markets while ignoring your current base is what "killed' Sony and absolutely destroyed Microsoft with the Xbox 360. Nintendo is now doing it as well, they're chasing after new customers while taking their older ones for granted and Nintendo in particular is fleecing those older customers at the same time by overly monetizing everything. If you're a physicalchad then the DK DLC 2 months in and day and date Pokemon ZA DLC are a slap in the face, you didn't get the full game on cartridge.

You know Nintendo is doing great when the doomer posters are complaining.

Something I’ve noticed is that a lot of the doomer posters come from the Game Cube generation (late Millennials), while the most chill and optimistic Nintendo fans tend to be Wii-era folks. What is it about the GC generation that produced so many unemployed weirdos? Most SNES-era fans just hang back, sometimes negative but still able to appreciate modern stuff. But the GC crowd? Man, they’re just different. Maybe growing up during their teen years in the housing crisis had an effect, or maybe Melee is the real culprit, the community around that game is absolutely bonkers.

>>720547050
The Gamecube base was hardcore gamers, the Wii base was casual gamers. It's a different mindset.

>>720518357
You say this every single year yet you never learn.

>>720519471
What an retard kek

>>720547050
The Wii era was so scarce of core gamer oriented games that everything that has come after (sans WiiU) looks like a huge improvement in comparison.

>>720543890
>how popular the brand is more than the game itself?
Because I'm not interested in DK, Tomodachi Life and Kirby you homo

>>720547050
Gamecube was the last time a Nintendo console had full genre coverage. Where is Nintendo's racing game?
>>720547170
WiiU had by far the most Gamecube-feeling game to come after Gamecube in Splatoon.

>>720547674
>Where is Nintendo's racing game?
Mario Kart World? Kirby Air Riders? F-Zero 99?

>>720542018
that doesn't make me care about DLC, sorry

>>720547753
Mario Kart is not a racing game and hasn't been one since Super Circuit.
Sakurai literally said that KAR is not a racing game, even if it has a racing mode.
F-Zero 99 is a literal network test tech demo using SNES assets that they had the audacity to release. It's a good thing they did because it's fantastic, but it's a bit too baisic to be the flagship racing game.

>>720518357
Switch 2 has games though, it's the other 2 that have none.

>>720547997
I think you should spam nintendo about an actual 3D sequel to f-zero 99 after reading your post.

>>720518357
yes it's over, I'm gonna sell my switch2 after zelda

>>720541959
I haven't really been impressed by DLC in general. It usually takes away from the thematic coherence of the game as it existed on release. All of the recent Nintendo ones have taken away from the games from my perspective, but I also disliked e.g. Elden Ring's DLC for being the same, or Monster Train's DLC, or Mass Effect's DLC, etc. it's almost always really shitty and the world would be better if none of it existed and the time was spent on other things

>>720544393
gay empty overworld with shit ambient music is so superior to gay empty ocean with good music!!

>>720518940
Why don't they go back to stylized games that don't rely on modern manhour-intense graphical styles? How are they falling into the same trap as everyone else?

Development staffing and costs don't have to balloon. The games they made back in the day are still great and they could still make games like those. I don't understand why Nintendo of all companies is getting sucked into the trap that everyone else fell into, that Nintendo knew they were going to fall into, and that Nintendo had gone out of their way to avoid before now. Why are they choosing now to dive in and succumb to blown out budgets and decade-long developments

>>720519790
roblox is way bigger than gta

>>720545003
>You haven't even made an argument as to why it's bad
How about the fact that a multibillion dollar company can’t into lightmaps or even proper texture mapping.
Or how the new Megas besides like Hawlucha look stupid.
>or even suggested better games
Silksong.
It’s less than 1/3 the price and I can guarantee you that the average playtime to complete the main story is going to be significantly long than ZA. I would bet my entire life savings and left nutsack on it too.

>>720518357
No they've just gone the disney route. Unfortunately they'll remain profitable.

>>720546027
You're right, EDF is worth $20.
Pokemon is still a fucking scam.

>>720518357
paid DLC is on the way!

>>720518357
I don't care about prices, I'm not poor. The difference between $60 games and $80 games is meaningless when these AAA companies can barely manage to put out more than two or three half-decent games a year if we're lucky. There's not enough volume for it to be relevant to anything. Even if I was buying 100 games a year at $80 instead of $60, that's still only $2000 extra I'm spending that year. I can't imagine anyone giving a fuck unless you're on the verge of starvation.

What I'm concerned about is the lack of games. Why has Nintendo not got any games for their brand new console? Where is the 3D mario? Where is the 3D zelda? Where is the animal crossing? Where is the smash bros?

Something has seriously gone wrong that this new console has absolutely none of the normal system selling blockbusters that anyone would expect it to have. What does it say about their ability to produce new games if they can't even make one of ANY of a mario/zelda/smash/etc

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>>720520551
It's way simpler. They just don't have to. If making less games and simpler you get more money, why would you waste resources? Just spend that on merchandise and marketing.
That's exactly what Nintendo has been doing since wiiU

>>720549096
>Why has Nintendo not got any games for their brand new console?
Because there is no need to? They make way more money porting old ones.

>>720549096
>I don't care about prices, I'm not poor.
>I don't care about rape, my anus is gaping already.

>>720540260
There are more games coming to switch 2 in its first 12 months than switch had. And it’s 10x the amount of games PS5 and Xbox had. You people are going full schizophrenic at this point. You need help.

>>720549331
I'm sorry you're poor.

Obviously I would care if they raised prices from $60 to $3000 or something. That would actually impact my purchasing decisions.

But what's $20 going to do when they barely ever put any games out in the first place? Just how poor ARE you people? The difference between $60 and $80 to me is the same as $60 and $60.50, it's just a negligible amount of money when we're talking about purchases that happen this infrequently. Any amount of time I could spend thinking about that would be better spent thinking about my housing costs or something actually impactful

>>720549749
>2

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>>720518357

Say it with me Eric. Switch 2 will outsell the Switch.

>>720549749
>There are more games coming to switch 2 in its first 12 months than switch had.
Why do you think this absolves them of failing to make any games for switch 2? Comparing its launch to a console with an even worse launch doesn't make its launch good. And BotW was a more interesting game than anything coming out so far anyway, so even that is arguable.

People like you don't seem to get it, unlike where Nintendo was before the Switch where they had just almost died due to the failure of the WiiU, they have all the capacity in the world to be making games right now. In the leadup to Switch 2 they could have been making all sorts of stuff without ever having to worry that they were limited by capital - just look at their financials a couple years ago compared to pre-Switch and you'll notice how much free cash they have lying around. It's in THAT context that their inability to have produced any games is worrying. Before, they just didn't have the ability to do very much. Now they could make anything they want, and they just are unable to do so.

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>>720518357

Its been 8 years Eric.

>>720549749
No bro. You need help.

>>720549749
Destruction All Stars quality games aren't actually a draw, something like Drag x Drive isn't a worthwhile game that should be counted towards anything just like Destruction All Stars wasn't worthwhile and having it on PS5 was more of a mark against the system than anything.

This idea that quantity = quality is retarded but that brainrot seesm to have infected a lot of the famitsu thread posters who skew towards being Nintendo fans. The Switch 1 had better exclusives in the first year.

>>720549770
$20 is 1/3rd of $60
That’s more than what most people tip for dinning, and that extra 33% applies to most games you buy. Buy 3 games at $80 and that’s $240 when before it’s cost $180.

>>720549096
It's funny how anons feel like they need to money-signal when it comes to Nintendo.

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While Eric wreite essays on 4chan, this is happening (Pic related) Are you addicted to losing, Eric?

>>720550416
Wow so $60 extra dollars spent on videogames this year. You know how ridiculous you sound? That shouldn't even be a quarter of a week's worth of rent/mortgage payment.

It's totally irrelevant amount of money we're talking about here. Maybe you live at home or something and only get $10 of pocket money from your mother a week so it's a big deal to you. Fair enough, I get that some people are in that situation. But come on, it's just not a meaningful amount of money for anyone else.

>>720550221
And yet this post still lives rent-free in your mind.

>>720550634
It's more like anons who are baffled that people are making noise about price increases when the real problem is the lack of games. Who cares about price increases for games that don't even fucking exist? Where are your priorities!?

>>720550930
It's not just the games. The accessories are also retardedly overpriced this generation.

>>720518552
soijack Mario

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>>720550837

Are you addicted to losing Eric?

>>720550348
>ignoring everything else
DK, Kirby Air Riders, Mario Kart World, Duskbloods, Hyrule Warriors, Splatoon Raiders, will all have been released within the first 12 months as switch 2 exclusives. Not even counting cross gen/switch 2 edition games, although I should because a large amount of Wii U games account for switch 1 releases. This is a solid lineup and only the most delusional amount of mental gymnastics can make someone act like switch 1 had a better lineup of pure exclusives in the first year.

>>720549957
>>720550221
You are a delusional dumbass and a laughing stock who actively makes the shit you claim to like worse by rewarding dogshit and abuse.

>>720551480
>will all have been released within the first 12 months as switch 2 exclusives
We have no definitive release date on Duskbloods yet. 2 racing games and a Dynasty Warriors clone aren't on the level of Xenoblade 2 and Odyssey. It's just DK doing all the heavy lifting.

>>720518357
They climbed into bed with the Pokemon Company and now they treat their own properties the same way with hundreds of low-effort baby games wearing the skin of Mario, or Zelda or Metroid, etc.

>>720551865
It’s a confirmed 2026 release. 8 out of 10 of FromSoft’s last releases came out in the first half of the year. I can take an educated guess that it will be out before mid June of 2026.

>>720543890
>"big league"? Why do you care about how popular the brand is more than the game itself?

Cringy when nintendo fans care about how popular something is rather than the actual quality of a game.

Big league. Showstopper. Big guns. Sells like hotcakes.

Hahahahahahahaah dick'eds.

>>720552679
Delays happen and even then, it will probably be a timed exclusive at best like Proud Nordics. Which lasted what, 2 or 3 weeks?

>>720544161
You dont. Many others do you fat worthless (soon to be dead) cunt.

>ITT Shitposters see raping PS5 and Xbox worldwide and are getting mad as fuck.

Nintendo has been raping Xbox and PlayStation since 2017. Why are you still mad?

>>720551865
We need Monolith Soft's new game

>>720552870
Between August 2026 and January 2027 is probably the safest bet for Xenoblade 4.

>>720550348
>The Switch 1 had better exclusives in the first year.
Like the other anon said, you're downright delusional if you believe this. Even in terms of third-party support, the Switch 2 has games that people want at large (From Software, Atlus, Capcom, etc.) while Switch 1 was pretty much an indie machine in its early days. Switch 2 is even getting current-gen games like the FF7 remake trilogy and Resident Evil 9, despite the detractors swore it would never happen earlier this year.

>>720553341
>Switch 2 is even getting current-gen games like the FF7 remake trilogy and Resident Evil 9

Nobody is playing those on Switch 2 lmao

>>720553341
I couldn't give a single shit about 3rd party games, I have no idea why you'd play one of those on a switch

>>720553423
Why do you think those Switch 2 versions happened in the first place, anon? Capcom suits recently complained that the PS5 is not a sustainable platform for their home market in Japan, and many other Japanese publishers share that similar sentiment, so it's obvious people are gonna play those games on the Switch 2 in the long run.
>>720553479
>I have no idea why you'd play one of those on a switch
Because I enjoy playing videogames of all kinds? Between Atelier, EDF, Touhou fangames, Nippon Ichi Software, Yakuza, the Metal Gear Solid trilogy, etc etc. And the console itself is convenient?
This weird argument that you can only play Nintendo stuff on Nintendo consoles is frankly autistic.

So what's with people just lying about prices?

>>720553341
Ports of third party games that people already played don't matter in the slightest. We're living in the idort age where most people have more than 1 console or have a PC and the Switch 2 being a bad place to play them because the ports are removing NPC density is the icing on top as to why you shouldn't be buying them there to begin with.

Exclusives are all that matter for the Switch 2 because the multiplats are best player elsewhere, case in point look at the RE9 trailer from the direct yesterday.

>>720553423
FF7 remake trilogy wouldn't have been made for switch 2 if it had actually sold well on ps5, let alone PC sales for rebirth are also shit. PS5 sales for Squeenix games have been abysmal
This is a hail mary for squeenix to save the FF series, hence why they went out of their way to make a port of remake that runs really well on Switch 2

>>720554359
in case you didn't realize this the current meta is to put your games everywhere you can. those ff7 remakes are also on xbox and it's the fucking xbox lmao.

>>720518357
Everything is fine. Just look at their general and tendies are doing their usual roleplay about Sony and PlayStation to avoid any criticism of Jewtendo's criminal practices.

>>720554406
They didn't get announced for Xbox until rebirth was a massive bomb on PS5 and PC. It sold like shit so they told Sony to fuck off with the timed exclusivity deal they did with them for the first two games

>>720518552
They are desperate because millennials are getting too old and zoomers nor alphas give a shit about mario.
It doesn't help govt and companies refuse to accept people are way poorer now

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>>720518357
It's funny Sony fanboys always say "if Sony did this the internet would not let it go!"
They have to say if because Sony releasing any games is so unbelievable they can't even say it

>>720554359
Lmao doesnt mean they'll sell well on Switch 2 either. Nobody cares about shitty FF anymore. Plus Nintendo has their own JRPG dev with Monolith Soft anyway who is currently developing a real ambitious large scale JRPG that'll surpass those FF games in quality and won't be linear cinematic action slop masquerading as a JRPG.

>>720554310
>Exclusives are all that matter for the Switch 2 because the multiplats are best player elsewhere
I do own a gaming PC and yet I've been exclusively buying and playing games on the Switch (now Switch 2) because there are no incentives to play them elsewhere though.

>>720554310
>Exclusives are all that matter for the Switch 2 because the multiplats are best player elsewhere
lel. FF7 gets cheats on Switch 2, Cyberpunk 2077 only has gyro on Switch 2. Sony fanboys can't let it go Playstation is literally the worst place to play games every time.

>>720518357
To be honest, there's just nothing interesting about Nintendo anymore for me. I'd already accepted that I'm not a "hardcore Nintendo fan", but I haven't felt this indifferent about Nintendo stuff since the GameCube.
>YOU JUST HATE VIDEO GAMES!
I like new play experiences that push the industry in interesting ways that could potentially introduce new genres of games never thought possible before fostered by unique hardware the games are being designed for. It's why I never went with Xbox or PlayStation since they've essentially been doing the "it's the same thing but better graphics" thing for generations since the 360 and PS3 era. Nintendo has gone down this path too so when I see the games, I just see a game that I can have a similar experience on with the last gen console just with worse visuals. If I wanted better graphics, literally PlayStation, Xbox and PC have that and they all look better than what the Switch 2 has. Even Smartphone games are looking good now. I don't play Nintendo consoles for the graphics, I play them because they are usually pioneering some kind of new way to experience games as a whole. I'll also admit that, in this front, I do think the Switch was cool for the first year or so, but overtime I feel like the Wii U was more interesting overall (which is sad since it had so much wasted potential). Since Nintendo is pretty much going to be in this mindset so long as the leadership remains the same, I really don't see myself being excited for new Nintendo stuff. Very likely minority opinion, but it's how I feel.

>>720555073
>Even Smartphone games are looking good now
Yer a casual, harry

>>720518357
That direct was so ass, how the absolute fuck could anyone defend that shit

>>720554530
ports don't pop up overnight and ff14 has been on xbox for years you idiot.

>>720554681
And they will sell even less than the shittiest FF kek

>>720555749
Because BUT MUH SONY. That's literally it.

>>720554741
>because there are no incentives to play them elsewhere though.
Silksong just showed that mods are a pretty big incentive for playing on PC though but even with other games things like randomizers add a lot of replayability. All consoles are cucked however.

In the past, physical was a good reason to buy on consoles regardless but that's no longer the case so it's just an IQ check that people are failing. Even games that aren't on key cards like Bananza and Pokemon ZA aren't fully on cartridge with the very early DLC they're getting. Even for third party games, people that bought Elden Ring on disc on other consoles didn't get the full version either. When physical is barely a thing, PC becomes king.

>>720555934
I dont know about that. Their new JRPG could make quite the splash.

>>720556149
>When physical is barely a thing, PC becomes king
Most people don't wanna spend 2-3 grand and piracy means it can never become a default platform like Nintendo.

>>720556131
They've had almost nothing but flops over the past year (Lost Souls, Concord, Marathon). Nintendo at least makes good games

>>720554681
Nah as soon as FF goes back to turn based they will sell a lot again.
Also xenoblade is just animu mmo offline shit

>>720556602
Sub $1k pcs do just fine and piracy existing doesn't matter at all. That's like saying the Switch 1 couldn't be a default platform because there was piracy on it.

>>720518357
That's half of what I normally pay for 18 year olds

>>720556879
Its never going back to turn based LMAO. FF is way past its prime and even FF fans hate it now.

Xenoblade is more liked by Nintendo fans.