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>a hate letter to the fans
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>>720547917
stop looking at your phone
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>>720547917
>get killed by self destruct after finally beating him
>run back
>easily kill him 2nd time in a row
kino?
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>>720547917
Don’t put down your controller
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>>720547917
>a sex letter to the fans
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>>720547917
A love letter, more like. Fans know not to stand in the middle of the arena like a retard while the bosses corpse violently shakes and glows orange.
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>>720548202
>you should've anticipated something 10 bosses prior to this one never did
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>>720548693
For that matter, I don't think a single boss in the last game did this.
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>>720548541
It wasn't a stretch to think it was just a cool death animation. I only survived because I healed right before I got hit
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>>720548541
My guy almost literally all bosses in hk1 explode in orange and none do damage because of it (or almost none)
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>>720549009
that's the boss exploding not the boss's explosive weapon doing AoE moves.
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Only actual retards or absolute casuals who haven't played enough games would've gotten caught in the self-destruct. It was painfully obvious and the devs even gave players a 3 to 5 second head start to back away. If you still got caught, check your IQ, you might be special.
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>>720548403
That comment missed the tentacle parasite and abortion scene or that you can overdose on blueblood.
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>>720549062
Yes and in this case the boss also shakes and explodes, only this time he does damage
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You fags hyped this boss up too much. I came in with poison longpin and wiped this boss' ass for him. I seriously thought he was gonna be some insurmountable challenge but the pace and moveset is way easier than Widow.
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>>720549093
what happens when you overdose on blueblood?
I have the tool and architect but Im too scared to use it
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>>720547917
Last judge was fun. It's the Bilewater boss that's hard filtering me.
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>>720547917
He wasn't as bad as anons make him out to be but in general the game just isn't pleasant to play. I'd rather play nearly any other metroidvania. TC has never had any clue about what makes these games great even their own accidental success with HK. SS is just a beast of momentum and hype. It doesn't matter how shit it is. You'll slurp it up with a disposable straw and call that skill.
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>>720548104
This and I wasn't even mad
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>>720549585
Hollow knight and silksong are just 2d souls games if we‘re being honest. They share way more similarities in design philosophy with souls games than metroid/castlevania
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>>720549585
What sucks about their design is the game starts off fooling you into thinking, "well I'm weak and take 2 health damage now, but surely I'll get upgrades!" and by the time you realize that the game gets worse as you play you're past the 2 hour refund window. There's a reason reviews are tanking for this game.
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did i fuck up by killing all the jailers before they could take me to the slab?
is there a way into it without getting kidnapped?
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>>720549215
the boss explodes with its weapon and most enemies with explosive weapons in the game explode on death
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>>720549459
Your health bar explodes and is replaced entirely with blue blood. You can no longer heal or extend it further however it does regenerate on its own.
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>>720547917
How the fuck did people struggle at last judge. She's not fast and all her attacks are well telegraphed.You even have a trinket that halves the damage from fire. The runback barely has any enemies and few hazards. I made up my mind now. This board is full of shitters.
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>>720547917
>all attacks are clearly telegraphed
>massive recovery zones
One of the most fair bosses in the game. Really exposes how even the slightest amount of difficulty you have when you first face him is already too much for you mental niggers.
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>>720550848
How many enemies with explosive weapons can you even encounter in Act 1?
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>>720550991
>This board is full of shitters.
You didn't figure this out back when ER released and they were all crying about Margit?
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>People complain about explosions from last judge
They are not mentally prepared for the late game.
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>>720547917
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>>720547917
people will humblebrag that they knew to stand away from the boss when LITERALLY EVERY boss in HK AND SILKSONG, do a gay little dance while blubbering and explode into gay wisps, it never does anything eer

>except this one time because the boss uses explosives so we decided to just throw it in as a cheap fuck you
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>>720551261
at least the bell ones. i guess it depends on how you progress
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>>720551552
No because shitters being loud is expected when a souls game comes out. I also purposely avoided these threads so I don't know how hard they were coping.
>>720551686
The boss has been using explosions for the whole battle and the hissing is suspiciously long and ominous. Not to mention the very obivious very perfectly round AOE telegraph before the explosion. If you got hit then it's on you. I do agree it's frustating but if you won once you can win twice.
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>>720551552
unironically, getting to margit the first time and beating him is the hardest part of the game

before i was even halfway through i was stunlocking most bosses with jump attacks, and i wasn't even a strength build
the reason elden ring is so devisive is because of the gay corner that fromsoft has developed themselves into
>uhh how do we make the game harder?
>idk man, just have even less windows, make literal combo extending traps for when players dare to think they have an opening after learning a combo
>also change their entire moveset when they hit half health, in a game where you can die in 2 hits if you haven't leveled the mandatory health stat
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>>720551261
4 If you go through bilewater. The game obviously assumes you played the previous game though.
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>>720551981
>humblebragging

>do a gay little dance while blubbering and explode into gay wisps, it never does anything ever

>except this one time because the boss uses explosives so we decided to just throw it in as a cheap fuck you
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>>720551981
What stupid logic. Why not three times? Or four? Shit, they should force you to no-hit win the boss 10 times in a row right? If you complain, it's just a skill issue right? What idiot trash logic.
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>>720552165
Brother if you're that mad already I can tell you just drop the game now you're going to hurt yourself once you get to the hard stuff.
>>720552297
Nigger you got caught in a trap because you weren't paying attention. Go watch a video of the boss fight and tell me it wasn't obvious. That's the point of a trap and you fell for it. Pay attention or beat the boss twice. Fag.
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>720552383
nah, you're just trolling, which is obvious
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>>720552046
I mean, Silksong managed to up the difficulty without turning to retarded shit (mostly). It just took massively expanding everything Hornet can actually do compared to The Knight. Maybe FS should make the leap to an actual action game and have more player expression, complex movement mechanics, overall faster speed for everything, etc.
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>>720552441
yeah but 2D makes it feel lame as fuck and dodging most of the fight just to get a few slaps in, which while admittedly short, feels like forever while doing it

because you're stuck in a mechanical loop after figuring the boss out
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>>720552582
I think that being 2D allows the execution to be strict enough to keep tension high even after you figure it out. The contact damage is also a part of this, so while it can be annoying when you fuck up it's essential for this tension imo.
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>>720549585
lol what
the MAIN attraction to this game is how pleasant it feels to actually play it with your fingers on the controller, way more than HK even

thats why ""questionable"" design decisions like long runbacks, annoying gauntles and trudgy gather quests around the map get a pass, because just being in the game moving around and fighting is its own reward

a lot of metroidvanias play like shit too, i dunno what you're really talking about here
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>>720552697
contact damage is what im dying to the most desu but i don't think i will finish the game

i struggle to really enjoy the 2d style of games like this, too stuck in my ways from my favorite genres
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>>720549585
>in general the game just isn't pleasant to play
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>>720553047
Damn, have I been sleeping on Reaper? I have just Huntermaxxed all game.
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>>720553108
i find both to be really good, I like hunter for bosses and most enemies, but reaper might be the designated flying enemy crest
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i died to this guy's explosion, woke up at a bench, went again and immediately killed him a second time. i don't think i ever had a single thought cross through my head during that stretch of time.

people are just too whiny and too into themselves to properly get into a game
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>>720547917
You really got to be a retard to die to this, or you're playing with loud youtube music that drowns all your senses out.

The boss has a weapon that creates explosions. After you kill the boss, it doesn't fall into the background and disappear the way other bosses do. Instead, its weapon starts glowing and smoke starts coming out of it and the screen starts shaking. And you hear a loud sizzling noise.

HMMMM I WONDER WHAT IT COULD MEAN?????

It's only a hate letter to complete retards.
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>>720553172
Might have to try it out, I got Beast first and it felt like total garbage, and then grabbed Wanderer which just felt boring and like I was playing the game wrong, so by the time I grabbed Reaper I wasn't experimenting.
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https://youtu.be/LFO6TDgbVZY?si=RBkS1DeS4VHAt8cP&t=304

You gotta be blind and deaf not to move away when this starts happening.
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>>720551587
Kino boss even if he completely made me his bitch for 20 minutes. Was having fun the whole time
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>>720553342
i ended up using reaper for most of the game since its probably the least demanding and most versatile and allows for some cool stuff because the down attack hits to the sides. like if you get hit on the ground you can do one while you're immune and it'll hit the enemy. as the game went on I went back to hunter because it feels the most mobile and damaging and late game bosses feel really good with it. I didnt use any of the other crests much, they felt too weird.
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>>720552998
Kind of weird, I hate 3d action games because they are all combo focused and all the moves lack impact because juggling and hp bloat is a thing.
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I started playing the first HK cause I passed on it years ago. It's pretty fun, i'm in the last stretch I think (just killed the three sleeping guys) and took a detour to do the Grimm fight. Judging by the dialogue I take it there's a harder version if I collect even more flames?
I still haven't found the upwards facing spell or the spell upgrades, I should've been better at marking places to return to.
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>>720549079
I knew it was going to explode, but I thought it was going to be just an animation
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>>720552436
Explain. You fell for a telegraphed trap (albeit a punishing one) and now you're making threads bitching about how the dev personally fucked your ass. I'd argue if I'm the one trolling then you're the one begging for it.

You fell for a trap dealing 3 points of damage because you weren't paying attention. If you had enough health and/or were paying attention you wouldn't have died. Hell you had the fire trinket it would have dealt only 1 damage. Conclusion: you failed so you lost. Shitter. Again look at this and tell me it's not obvious. >>720553530
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>>720553686
Oh also the flying enemy section above the spikes with no floors in the Trial of the Fool can suck my entire cock from base to head
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>>720553108
Based hunter enjoyer
I've been doing the same, I really want to like beast but it has way too many drawbacks
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>>720547917
Fun boss once you figure it out.
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>>720553874
That was probably the hardest thing for me in HK
There is so much shit happening at once for those fights
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>>720549872
>There's a reason reviews are tanking for this game

Yeah anon gee I wonder why
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>>720553178
You live a privileged life and cannot comprehend why some people have better things to do than suck Team Cherry's dick.
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>>720554276
How about you start by not losing so you can get done faster instead of having to fight the boss again if you're so busy ?
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>>720549582
get in the poopy water
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>>720553705
NTA and I am OP and I didn't even die to the explosion. I just thought it was a shit move made just to fuck with players. Your assblasted fanfiction is hilarious btw. I though I'm supposed to be the one who's mad? Lol
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>every boss is just damage sponge moving like spasptic spamming gigagorillion AOE where you have to carefully cheap away at his giant health pool
TC just wanted to make a bullet hell, why disguise it something else?
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>>720554272
Cope, seethe, dial8
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>>720549093
>and abortion scene
what
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>>720558295
>carefully cheap away at his giant health pool
i will never understand this complaint. like jesus how bad are you people
every boss takes like 1-2 minutes to kill
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>>720548693
>>you should've anticipated something 10 bosses prior to this one never did
Those 10 other bosses didn't start to ignite with an escalating fire animation and sound effect.
So yeah you should have anticipated it.
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>>720547917
Any tips for this guy? He seems super simple and I just need to get used to his phase two fire. Not struggling, just curious on your tactics.
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>>720549787
But the original Dark Souls is just a 3D metroidvania
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>>720549872
>"well I'm weak and take 2 health damage now, but surely I'll get upgrades!"
You do. But it was very foolish of you to assume that you'd grow tanky instead of getting more movement upgrades.
And movement upgrades you get plenty of.

Hornet is a Dex build. Was that not obvious from the start?
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>>720559187
>Hornet is a Dex build
Yeah and it fucking rules!!! My cock is at maximum hardness as I zip and dash and zoom and bounce around the arena flipping off walls throwing tools, divekicking, slashing, and dash attacking for rebounds off the bosses. Holy fuck it's so good!
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>>720558963
Are you trolling or pretending to be retarded? It takes 2 minutes after you learned moves and attacks and wasted shitload of time on runbacks
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>>720559789
>BING BING WAHOOO!
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>>720559187
Dex builds tend to have low health, high mobility and high damage. Team Cherry forgot to give Hornet the high damage part.
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>>720560070
I will have fun. I will enjoy myself. I will continue to do this. And you will continue to seethe about it.
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>>720560184
>Convinces xerself that xhe's having fun because le hard game
Nobody cares about your epeen flexing
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>>720549585
>He wasn't as bad as anons make him out to be but in general the game just isn't pleasant to play
Why is this always the cope of shitters
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>>720560369
>My badly designed game is above criticism because it's..............................le hard!
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>>720559012
Use the fire trinket. Heal when it does the fire wheel and pay attention so you don't confuse the spin with the throw move. This boss is very vulnerable to to poison boomerang due to size and low speed.
>>720560164
Use tools.
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>>720560496
You have never confronted you own ego have you
It’s time to come to the realisation that you’re just not good at games anon
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>>720560759
Thank you. I've been using poison tools, but apparently I'm missing a Poison Boomerang. Guess I can go out and explore more.
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>>720549889
You can enter normally. I didn't get kidnapped and still 100%'ed the game.
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If you use tools you didn't beat the game.
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You told me Judge runback was bad? But this on as FOUR (4) enemies that are right in your path, 2 of them are tall and will damage you 99%. At least with Judge perfect platforming always guaranteed full hp for fight.
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>>720562640
wrong.
I only took one guaranteed hit from the first pack, the tall dudes had a very consistent bounce unlike the mechanical dude in the judge runback.
the judge runback required a lot more movement tech to get back. Even though I always arrived there without taking damage, if I did take damage it would be safer to just reset.
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>>720562640
What. Come from the high halls bench on the left and just double-jump + zip over the two (2) big boys.
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>>720554272
chinks are such unhinged crybabies. did any of them even play the first game?
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>>720562949
The first pack is easy to avoid. Tall bugs don't even allow to pogo off of them most of the times. Judge run back didn't even put any enemies right on your path as long as you were fast. This one has 4 and first 2 of them are annoying as fuck to avoid and other 2 almost always guarantee to damage you
>>720563149
I don't have double jump yet
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>>720547917
>it has good runfront
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>>720547917
>gauntlet battle
>big bad finally comes out
>both die at the same time
>ok, I should be able to do it again
>finally kill him
>turns out that was the half way point
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>>720563248
>Judge run back didn't even put any enemies right on your path as long as you were fast.
Brother, it puts several flies and mechanical dudes on small platforrms that you have to get past, obviously you don't need to kill any of them cause you should be fast enough at that point, but one little slip and its -3 masks, 1 from the enemy and 2 from the hazard.
I could always pogo the tall dudes, no idea how anyone could fuck those up.
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>>720562640
Yeah but this boss is pure ludokino and incredibly fun so the runback is less annoying. And like, just sprint and pogo past them the hallway dudes.
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>>720563248
>I don't have double jump yet
Then go and get it. Or just wait for them to jump. Or don't die to the easiest Act 2 boss.
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I don't know what the fuck bilewater is but everyone seems to hate it. Is it a purely optional area like Sands of Karak?
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>>720553108
reaper and wanderer are great, architect also if you are into tools

repear attacks slowly butgives twice longer air time on pogo and has better range
wanderer is 2xdps can melt bosses in seconds

still, best for pogo is reaper

>>720553047
tried that in the arena, did well untill double boss, trying to pogo them alaway got me hit when then jump or dash
ended up going wanderer for fast attacks, and parry which wrecked them
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQf8UC_PMaI
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>>720563437
If you just hold the trigger and run, the enemies on Judge will always activate after you already run past them. I only ever had to deal with them when I fucked up platforming
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>>720562640
stand next to the wall in one corner, on jump down just jump and start masking attack, no need to dodge shit
dosnt work for harder version of this fight
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>>720563626
It's available very early from Greymoor but you can and should put if off until the very end of Act 2 (though you can dip in a little bit to skip Judge).

It's "required" due to whatever esoteric bullshit unlocks Act 3.
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>>720563735
I don't think we're playing the same game.
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>>720563941
Anon... You did take the left turn after first armored guy, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDx_w8saxLM
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>>720563437
>it puts several flies and mechanical dudes on small platforrms that you have to get past,
weird, the path I took I only had to dodge a single fly. I don't know where these "several" flies and judges you talk about come into play.
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>>720564220
oh that left, nah I took the route with some chest hair.
still, judge was a bit more difficult than the dancers.
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>>720548869
soul master had a fake out death moment, it actually got me and I died in the very next phase.
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>>720563626
there are no optional areas
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>>720554272
Its almost as if the vast majority of the world doesn't talk english
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>>720564474
>complains about the runback
>deliberately taking a less efficient route cuz MAH MASCULINITY

you're fucking stupid.
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>Groal
aaaaaa
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>720550923
Can you recover from it? Such as by dying or resting? Or is it permanently fucked?
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>Game about killing bugs
>chinks hate it
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are there enough memory lockets to max out every single crest?
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>>720547917
As soon as the smoke started i knew it was going to self-destruct and cause damage
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>>720565078
They are shitting on it because their translations full google translate gibberish.

Apparently most of the other language translations for the games like this because the people they hired scammed them lol.
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>>720563812
>put if off until the very end of Act 2
shit I'm not even done with act 1 and I just made it to the mist
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>>720553047
that arena was really fun. weaving through groups of enemies using clawline and the hunter divekick felt awesome

>>720553108
i've alternated between the two throughout the game. I think reaper has a better moveset in general with the wide radius of the down attack and the shoryuken is great too but the hunter's divekick is pretty fast and puts you closer to the ground so i did like how mobile it makes you
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>>720547917
>a hate letter to the fans
thats like every recent AAA release
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>>720565001
That's right I'll bitch about the runback when it was always an issue, we're splitting hairs discussing which dogshit stinks more.
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>>720547917
It was funnier when Itagaki did it in Ninja Gaiden 2. Team tranny can’t even be original with their trolling.
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>>720565241
Sounds like the solution is to only release an English version
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>>720560865
It's hidden in Hunter's march. There's also a fractured mask. If you are in act 2 they are spread in two different rooms and free. Otherwise you have to buy those items.
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>>720565241
So basically he paid Chinese people to do something and they did a shit job ? Chinese most affected.
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>>720547917
Easier than two previous bosses.
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>>720558881
Witch crest quest
It shows some abstract highly invasive surgery, but the way it's worded leaves implication
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>>720548915
You are playing castlevania clone so you should be prepared for desperation attack from bosses.
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>>720547917
based
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>>720565285
That's the dip. I don't even think you can reach the rest of Bilewater.
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>>720560802
I can't even imagine how much of a completely worthless waste of life subhuman you need to be to depend on entertainment products for your ego to the point of trying to affirm it like that lmao.
Spare your poor parents and kill yourself.
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>>720548403
She has literally nothing under her skirt.
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>>720547917
I didn't know about the explosion and run away on instinct. Not the devs fault if you have no survival instinct of a dodo bird
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>>720566189
Leather/latex suit...
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>>720558345
no need to share all your plans with 4chan, we dont care.
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>>720565327
It's not an issue if you don't get hit, which the most efficient route avoids enemies. you're retarded for taking a path back that puts you in front of more hazards with a higher chance for your dumbass to fuck up.
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>>720552046
>getting to margit the first time
Comparing difficulty of 2d platformer to rpg is dumb. Anyone can beat margit first try. Just explore entire limgrave and you will outlevel him.
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>>720553108
It's good. I tend to play hit and run so the slower attacks don't bother me much and the extra range is nice, especially combined with long claw.
I read someone was making a mod that would let you change your starting crest which I'm interested in.
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>>720553047
This looks extremely clunky and unfun
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>>720560759
>tools
You didn't beat the game.
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>>720566660
That does sound good. I'd also enjoy a style switching mod for crests.
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>>720566738
no you don't get it, positioning myself over the enemy to pogo them to death by spamming down B while they're completely helpless is so fucking cool and based??
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>>720550991
It's the platforming and flying enemies on the runback.
For some reason a lot of people struggle with the platforming in this game and the flying red guys fuck you up with heat-seeking missiles if you don't manage to skip past them.
>>720553686
>just killed the three sleeping guys
You can go get the not-100% ending but there's still a lot left to get through.
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>>720547917
>and fuck you, the player, for playing!
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I just unlocked Rune Rage as a skill, had until Sharpdart for the insane dmg. Is it worth it to switch over? I assume RR is usefull for bigger enemies with a large hitbox.
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>>720562640
If you consider this runback bad, good luck in the death swamp, you will cry. Here´s a spoiler:
[Run to the boss room, 1-4 min, depending on your skill and which bench/spoiler]
arriving in boss room, a gauntlet of only flying fuckers
directly after that the boss enters the arena, and summons from time to time adds, just to fuck with you, and all fly ofc
and do not forgot, all that includes a permanent body of "water" which makes you disable your skill gauge until you had a full heal to only cleanse yourself without the regeneration
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>>720548104
There must be at least one person out there who did this and was so excited they forgot about the explosion and fell for it again.
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>>720567020
>completely helpless
You can see it charging up an attack, are you fucking blind?
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>>720563484
I'll admit this boss is quiet literally the only boss in the entire game that I liked so far. The only boss I had fun with and want to replay, the rest were just miserable and I was just glad I'm done with them
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>last judge

these troons really don't want you to enjoy their game do they

I'm so glad I bought this shit for only $10 through the south african eShop
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>boss uses telegraphed explosion attacks throughout the fight
>see the same telegraphing when it's about to die
>it explodes
>mfw
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>>720569735
It's a shitty fucking bossfight and lo and behold it's a woman too, Troon Cherry just can't fucking quit it can they
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>>720549585
I feel like SS has elden ring syndrome.
>oh, we're famous for doing difficult games? hold my beer
>shit out an ultra unfair and frustrating game
There's a thin line between challenge and a spit in the face from the devs, i feel like they both passed it. The runbacks in SS have absolutely 0 justification.
I'll still 100% SS just like elden ring because aside from that they're phenomenal games
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>>720569936
What's shitty about it?
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dont listen to get gud faggots
they are actually the ones abusing every sort of mechanic to cheese their way through these games. you should have learned this with elden ring
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>>720570164
retard
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>>720570002
You're right because they have shit like bellhart, the fleas, chasing the quests like the pollips in shellwood, which are tame and easy and fun

then they take a nasty smelly fucking shit onto your face with bosses like the last judge because they have to be total faggots
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>>720559868
anon these people abuse boss fights with tool spam lmao
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>>720547917
Why are the bosses in this game so fun?
Like, most of them have less than 5 attacks
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>>720570002
The difference is after DS2 even From learned to recognize when they made the game too shit and added easy mode items into the game. Troon Cherry were stuck in a cave huffing their own farts and replaying SS for 7 years and took pride in never playtesting it. They got completely detached from reality in their autism, because they needed someone else's perspective, but never got it.
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>>720565078
What does the Final Bug Solution entail?
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>>720570109
>Every single attack does 2 hits of damage
>Massive boss
>Entire screen gets covered by attacks
>Takes ages
>Annoying run back

etc cetera
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>>720553047
WOW NICE POGO ACTION I REMEMBER HOP-FUCKING ENEMIES AND BOSSES IN THE FIRST GAME AND IT WAS BETTER THEN TOO AND DIDN'T REQUIRE GETTING A SEPARATE CREST
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>>720570358
bosses are fun
but they thought including double the amount of arena rooms was a good idea
especially if they want you to fight waves with garbage flying enemies before a boss
fuckin dogshit design
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>>720561654
I am always out of shells at the point I beat the boss, so I beat the game, actually.
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i haven't tried yet because flying enemies are aids, but can you eliminate these flames in wisp thicket in any sort of way?
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>>720570002
elden ring pretends to be dificult.
no souls games are.
the hollow knight games are challanging and what they do differently from most other games is that the challange grows as the game goes on because they devs assume the play will get better as they play.
both game series have pattern memorization in common though.
all content in both games is trivialized if you take a moment and observe to learn patterns.
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>>720570425
yeah hitboxes are fucked. your character takes up way more of the screen compared to hollow knight
combine it with enemy behavior, invuln frames after being hit being so short, body hits even doing full 2-3 damage

its actually gay fuckin aids at the end of the day.
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>>720570541
Just kill/destroy whatever is spawning them. This is universal advice that applies to the entire zone with no exceptions.
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>>720570543
>the hollow knight games are challanging and what they do differently from most other games is that the challange grows as the game goes on because they devs assume the play will get better as they play.
the game had 8 playtesters over 7 years
theres no way they can accurately playtest the game to where that would be judged fairly when they live in such a bubble.
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>>720570459
i dont think anything about the gameplay in hollow knight was better than in this game
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>>720570667
what if its father flame
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>>720550923
Wait, that sounds great, you'd actually get to use your silk skills instead of needing to save your silk for heals.
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>>720570685
they why is everyone enjoying the games challange and only those that often struggle to adapt cry about difficulty?
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99.3% of /v/irgins are beneath me lol
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>>720548403
>didn't find out about the kidnapping outcome until after I beat the game already
How do you trigger it, anyway?
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>>720570769
Did I stutter.
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How do you get this guy's name?
So far, tested the following:
>Doing the Skull Tyrant quest + Time + Resting on Bone Bottom's bench triggers the Attack
>If he's alive whne you start Act 2, he moves to Pilgrim's Rest
This implies that you can """safely""" complete tyrant's quest and keep him alive as long as you DO NOT rest on that bench. Just ignore the bench and complete act 2. You can talk to him just fine in the meantime.
I have this save where I did virtually everything in act 1, but defeating the Judge, opening the Wormways door or freeing the green prince.
I even completed the Nuu's hunter's journal part and defeated Phantom.
However, the little guy refuses to give me his name. Which I find odd since there are reports of people getting his name for the funeral, meaning that they got his name during act 1.
HALP
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>>720570850
Wow you beat a videogame impressive
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>>720570813
the power progression in this game is skewed.
notice how everyones abusing every sort of trick for bosses they dont like?

interesting. peculiar
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this game is dogshit
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>>720570853
a big fat bug is carrying a cage and he does a downward slam that if you dont dodge it captures you. the cutscene is a bit over the top, the fat bug licks the bars and moans and initiates implied pet talk and makes kissy noises towards hornet, then it cuts to a scene where they throw her onto a stone floor and pin her down while removing her red cloak all going "erm mi da gala, oooohh eheheh misaka" while hornet makes struggling noises.
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>>720552046
>gay corner that FromSoft developed themselves into
>how do we make the game harder?
It's been like 3 years and people still do not understand that Margit's "difficulty" is a deliberate tutorial for how you're supposed to play Elden Ring, not an arbitrary accident.
1. The game intentionally tells you to go to Stormveil, and then proceeds to give you the most useless upgrades on your path with the exception of the one golden seed. It gives you the somber weapon with the highest requirements in Limgrave if you beat Tree Sentinel, one smithing stone, a useless talisman, a useless (in PvE) ash of war, and a spirit ash summon and physick tear you can't use yet. All these are a taste of infinitely better rewards elsewhere in Limgrave.
2. Varre is untrustworthy so that the player will be more likely to doubt his advice and explore elsewhere.
3. Margit's daggers do negative fucking damage. Their purpose is to sear into the player's memory that it isn't safe to heal in neutral without sufficient distance or to arbitrarily attack enemies at the end of combos like previous FromSoft games. Every time you're hit by a dagger is supposed to feel like touching a hot stove and getting burned.
4. Margit has tons of slow, unsafe attacks where he's practically screaming "Please hit me, I'm winding up an attack for 3 full seconds, please hit me" to teach you that the proper way to play Elden Ring is to look for openings within strings or before specific attacks, not after.
5. His "delayed" attacks all have consistent timings, he doesn't hold the attack to intentenionally fuck with the player. He has one attack he can cancel (his overhead with an extremely long windup) and he only cancels it if it's obviously not going to hit you at all. Hos weird timings are intentionally designed to catch players who spam roll - again to teach them that this isn't Dark Souls 3 and that shit doesn't work anymore.

How are people STILL getting filtered by something designed to teach them?
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dogshit game tranny faggot developers
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>>720547917
This game is neat and filled with secrets. Did not expect special bench cutscene at Haunted Bellhart. When you quit and reload on that bench.
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>>720566189
>he doesn't have the exposed pussy mod installed
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>>720570948
You need to get the Needolin melody that lets you explore memories. As soon as he dies and you beat the Skull Tyrant for the second time, play the melody and explore his memories. You'll go to the kingdom of Lilpilgramia where he is the right hand of the monarch. Help him with the box stacking quest in the palace's store room and he'll mention his name (Keith). I think you need to talk to him twice after the quest.
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>>720570948
I just made sure to return to bone bottom often and talk to him every time thinking he might eventually say something useful. At some point he told me his name and then got killed shortly after by bone tyrant attack. My guess is you just have to do the majority of stuff in act 1 without completing it. That's what I did.
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>>720571293
I pogged when that happened to me. It was so fucking cool.
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How can you people enjoy this game when it's total dogshit?
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>>720567848
Just run past and jump on the knights if you can't just run past.
>>720570425
>Double damage
So ? By the time you reach it you would have fought at least two bosses like this. Not to mention the fire bell halves fire damage.
>Massive boss
Makes it easy to hit with tools.
>Entire screen gets covered
No and what it does cover is clearly telegraphed. The fire swirl is intimidating but you only have to not stand in the smoke. you can even heal during it.
>Takes ages
Only if you suck
>Annoying runback
It's one of the fastest and less enemy filled runback in the game. You can even skip all enemies.
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>>720548693
You have to be a special level of retarded to get caught by this.
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>>720570425
>>Every single attack does 2 hits of damage
Its attacks are slow so you have plenty of opportunities to heal.
>>Massive boss
The arena has plenty of space. How is this even a complaint?
>>Entire screen gets covered by attacks
It has a close range AoE that's dangerous if you allow yourself to be cornered, but otherwise its attacks are slow and simple to avoid.
>>Takes ages
>>Annoying run back
Pure skill issue.
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>>720571490
>fire bell halves fire damage

forgot this existed because I am already fucking tired of this games bullshit, checkmate
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>>720571157
you're supposed to explore...get powerful...then tackle the main quest....and fight margitt....
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The run back to the bilewater boss is genuinely masochistic. The fake bench also makes me want to run over kittens. I don't mind the fight at the end but fuck me, why does it make me run a marathon first (which I reliably do without taking damage).
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>>720571035
thanks, quite the achievement when you consider the context, that is to say, occupying a board involving the supposed discussion of video games, which I would hope would contain individuals who intrinsically understand game mechanics and design, however, that does not appear to be the case lately.
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>>720571530
suck my dick you gay little faggot
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>>720556182
Elaborate
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>>720570385
The game is filled with easymode items. You people either didn't find them or refuse to use them. If you suck at platforming you have 2 easymode crests. Tools like the boomerand are also OP as fuck and melt bosses.
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>>720571396
> My guess is you just have to do the majority of stuff in act 1 without completing it.
That is also what I did. Like I said, I'm only missing the judge. Everything is done, even Phantom. This playthrough was specifically for him and I autistically returned to that place to say hello every time I thought I did something noteworthy. It seems like I somehow missed a window to say "hello" at some point and there is no way to get it back.
Pic very related
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>>720571591
Who is stopping you being an asshole elsewhere? Nobody, not me that's for sure.
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What am i in for?
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>>720571580
there is a hidden bench much closer to the boss

even with that, yeah the boss is annoying
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>>720571615
Not an argument, shitter.
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>>720571460
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>>720571725
Oh, okay, go suck somebody else's dick, you little faggot.
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>>720570294
"Tool spam" ain't free. If you tool spam and still suck you are going to run out entirely and then it's not going to be a fun time. Plenty of shitters in the previous thread complaining about not having enough shards because they dumped them all in a boss and still couldn't get past.
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>>720571709
Post it. I don't think I ever found it
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>beat the bumrape bugs in Verdania
>counts as a heart, removes the one I didn't have yet from my map
>can't remember where it was
God fucking damn it. I fought the Crust King and the bug woman that clung to the wall. Where's the third?
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>>720570459
It's an early game crest and pogoing with hunter isn't hard. You just can't keep doing it as long. Pogoing is op anyway.
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from what i can see its just zoomers who are complaining about this games difficulty
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>>720571460
>How can you people enjoy one of the best games released in modern times
easily, you just wait until a great game comes out, and enjoy it. doesn't happen often, but when it does, it's cause for celebration
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>>720571946
suck my dick you shitty little faggot
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>>720571807
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>>720572018
git gud kid
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>>720572073
thanks for spending $20 by the way
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>>720571689
The only other noteworthy things I can think of that I did were skipping Moorwing by traveling with the flea caravan and destroying the bridge that you pay bone shards for by jumping on it. This stuff seems beyond cryptic.
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>>720551587
KINOBBIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>720549585
No, SS is noticeably better than Hollow Knight which actually doesn't deserve its reputation.
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>>720547917
am I the only one who thinks the game is ugly? The way the artstyle for the characters clash with the backgrounds is unappealing, there's too much DoF blur and various graphical effects, the colour choices are dingy and boring, and the characters lack expressiveness and are bland.
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>>720571804
>it aint free
you're acting like farming isn't an option in this game. kek and anons have recommended others to do this for many reasons
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>>720572134
I skipped Moorwing my first time playing. This time I got him. Guess I could try destroying the bridge. brb
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>>720572230
i wouldnt say its ugly but its definitely not as visually appealing as the first game
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>>720563247
Chinks complain about Chinese translation being extremely low quality.
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>>720572134
>>720572294
Destroying the bridge, talk, going to bellhart (to force a loading screen), returning and talking again did not seem to have any effect.
As a note: I'm playing on steel soul. Maybe I need to die to get additional dialogue from the guy, but that is not something I can test in this mode.
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>>720572230
No, other idiots with no sensibilities do to
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>>720572617
Well, no clue then. I was playing on normal so I suppose I died a bunch by that point.
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>>720571543
you're supposed to believe the lying faggot who tells you to go fight margit immediately, fight margit, get your ass kicked, fuck off and explore, get slightly more powerful, and then come back and kick margit's ass
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They really need to somehow find a way to ban anyone who has every posted on sharty. Looking at image hashes and almost all the silksong shitposter images were originally posted on sharty.
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>>720571580
erm the term youre looking for is actually sadistic
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ok but the real question is why is there no path of pain 2?
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>>720573257
Nigger, I don't give a fuck, I'm about to shove all the bile worms down your dick hole and play you like a bag pipe
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>>720565078
surprisingly the chinks seem to like hollow knight (and silksong)
the rage is just because the translation is the equivalent of those japanese games that get maliciously "localised".
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>>720573480
good because i'm a masochist
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>>720571043
You mean we use the items we pick up exploring ? Because tool use is "abuse" now ?
>>720572254
Yeah and farming is your punishment for being a shitter just like having to overlevel in souls games is.
Tool use is encouraged because it's what you're supposed to do. It's why they give you so many. You don't have to but you're probably not going for a tryhard run so use them without spamming them.
If you completely deplete your shard stock and have to farm you're bad and need to focus. I never ran out because I didn't spam and I still found tools to be almost too strong. I never had to farm rosaries either.

>>720572230
It's not ugly. I found it a lot less colorful than hollowknight though and it wasn't very colorful to begin with.

>>720573480
gay
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>>720572928
Guess I'll just save him without knowing his name and see what happens.
Thanks for the help
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>>720564364
Sorry, you're playing on the nerfed version and can't beat the game anymore.
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fuck
I can't even save and quit
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>>720571846
Do the thing on the statue in Hunter's March
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>>720570813
The first boss in tutorial hits for 2 masks and summons adds in phase 2. The first boss of hollow knight dies in 18 hits and has 1 phase with no adds and you can explore a lot of map before killing it.

The act 1 of silksong is a mess. Good video game of any genre starts easy and raise difficulty as the game progresses. Silksong fails to do it.
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Why do I see no one mention the Sands of Karek zone? This is one of the most annoying fucking platforming I have done in a game.

Though I will say it was way worse when it had double damage hazards.
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>>720574080
It's short and optional. The runback to all the bosses in it can be done with minimal pain through the vertical section in the middle using the bench in blasted steps.
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>>720553612
it's tricky but wanderer pogo can also hit targets to your side, I did that to climb up up the yoyo spikes in that long sinner road room
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>>720574396
But you can't get to the boss via the middle path? Am I missing something? You gotta do it by the side path from what I can tell.
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>>720574484
You can drop a rock on the bridge to make a hole in it, opening the vertical path all the way down.
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>>720575023
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>720548693
Correct
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think i stop playing after unlocking act 3 dont have zero interest to help lace
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Tips for Splinter Sister? The adds are fucking me over more than the actual boss.
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>>720572131
>poorfag thinks $20 is even worth mentioning
lol
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>>720568094
yea well the main reason we play these games is to get fucked remember?
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>>720575418
use your silk to insta kill the ads? She has 2 fucking moves and is possible easier than every other boss other than moss mother
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I don't hate the difficulty, I don't hate the cheap deaths, what I do hate is the lack of checkpoints before a boss. That's it. I hate runbacks.
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>>720575446
this, i spend $20 just on my breakfast
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>>720571708
goty
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>>720575418
javelin throw destroys the thorns in case thats an issue.
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>>720575418
Get the boomerang near Hunter's March bench. It melts the bosses and will carry you through act 1 and half of act 2
As other anons pointed out. Use silstorm to spawnkill the summoned mobs
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>>720576197
seen two bosses so far with annoying runbacks and one was trivialized with gitting gud and the other with finding a hidden bench
it's a skill issue
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>>720553047
bing bing wahoo
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>>720575418
Put the Beast crest on and tear into them. Worked for me.
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>sands of karak platforming
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>>720578510
Honestly pretty tight timing on some of those platforms, lots of throwing nail grab shit onto the round hittie things
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>>720578510
this will be you when you see the platforming required to get to the nameless village
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>>720575418
Use silk storm and tools to kill the adds.
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>>720579254
But then I won't have silk to heal, also I am saving my shards for a hard fight. Feels useless to use tools if I am just gonna run out of shards so quickly.
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>>720579254
I don't have Silk Storm as its hidden behind the bird gauntlet in Greymoor. I dread to go back there, but if it will help I'll get it.
>>720578309
Only have Wanderer obtained.
>>720579385
Fuck off, you're not me.
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>>720567020
Many enemies have counters to the pogo and chaining pogo attacks is not easy
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>>720579525
You have silk spear though, It one shots the adds and the fucking vines. Like it's that easy
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>>720579652
I'm probably sleeping on the silk spear and its uses. I'll try to use it more.
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>>720579729
Using silk for silk moves it's what seperates shitters from non shitters. Everyone having issue with any boss pre act 1 is highly likely not using tools and silk and not engaging with the actual game mechanics.
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>>720562640
You can literally jump over every single one of them
Never had issues, with the Reaper crest at least
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>>720563248
I pogoed on those niggers as a fucking Beast. With a non-meme crest it should be even easier.
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>>720562640
Just jump over them you actual shitter? How fucking stupid do you have to be to not figure it out, it's one of the easiest run backs, it's literally just a straight line to the boss.
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>>720570002
>I feel like SS has elden ring syndrome
In the sense that it's 12/10 and the best game in its genre, I agree
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>>720560759
>tools
I'm out of stuff to recharge them.
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>>720579525
Use the spike trap, it's good against flying enemies.
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>>720579091
>>720579154
I still don't have the double jump, that's probably what made it worse for me lol
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>games asks me to install update
>mfw remember that the update nerfs some difficulty so I refuse to install it out of principle
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>>720565053
yea you get it back in any way youd expect
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>>720580558
Outskilled
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would you guys consider entering the capital from the left easier than right side?
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My thumb hurts from holding down the jump button
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>>720580558
you can parry that projectile
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>>720580932
>send it back at the bomb dude
>it bounces off his bell and hits you in your face
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>>720580865
just claw it
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>>720581057
stop complaining
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>mfw start of act 3
sorry good bugs didn't think that one through all the way
seemed like a good idea at the time
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>Singer is an aesthetically great boss
>Moves are cool and mostly fair
>Oh also doesn't take damage from half of your attacks for no reason
There's always something that makes it clear TC hates the fanbase. If this is a regular thing for the rest of the bosses I'm gonna be disappointed.
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>>720553592
>>720572206
Besides lost lace I lost to base Trobbio around 15 times, he was genuinely the first roadblock I ran into. So then when I fought him again I was shitting bricks, only to win on my first attempt. I genuinely have no idea how I did it but I'll take it.
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Why the fuck does this fucking conch shell fucker in sands of karak deal 3 masks of damage. Fucking bullshit mother fucker. You have borderline gods dealing 2 damage yet a large cone fly deals 3.
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Virgin confirmed!
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>>720553047
I've been stuck on the 2 dudes for hours, send help
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>>720584332
Bring tacks and save them for that part specifically. Throw down three or four but no more in one spot. When they spawn in throw everything you have at the one on the left, pogo on him a bit and then do hit and run. Focus on dodging exclusively and throw more tacks when the first set vanishes. Boomerang shreds them. Hit and run, one or two hits at a time, focusing on safe punishes. They have a similar rhythm to the last judge. Only heal in midair and only during attacks. While on the wall, press dash to move upwards without jumping outwards. Go get the double jump if you don't have it.
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>>720547917
thanks anon I am literally on this boss right now.
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>>720580470
You buy the wrong games
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What new lewd situations should Hornet be subjected to in the future dlcs?
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>>720585528
handholding
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What I won't understand is how so many people had issues with Moorwing. Bro had 3 moves, two of which are just dodged by jumping in place and the third by walking the other direction.
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>>720585528
Add a new boss that births adds at you and when you beat it she gets a new silk skill that is Hornet giving birth to little spiderlings as an attack.
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>>720548693
yeah, faggot. that's what i did.
but don't worry too much about being retarded, you'll fit right in here.
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>>720580558
this is the most bullshit part in the entire game
no I haven't done bilewater yet
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>>720585686
it's because you have to jump to attack him, the instinct for most people is to stay close to him at all times to be able to reach him but that makes it so that you don't have time to react to his shenanigans
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Is there no fucking bench near Widow? Do I have to run from Shellwood's top bench every fucking time I die?
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>>720585801
>a new silk skill that is Hornet giving birth to little spiderlings as an attack
haha lol that's crazy haha but what if tho haha
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>>720588537
The shellwood bench is MAYBE like 20 seconds if that from her. its 2 rooms you gotta go through. The bench is at bottom of the elevator in shellwood.

I swear do you niggers even explore the maps?
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>>720579154
That area made me realize that the hunter pogo will be worse than the normal one no matter how much you practice
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>gauntlet battles
these are artificial difficulty
they have always been artificial difficulty
they will always be artificial difficulty
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anyone else getting dark souls 2 flashbacks from this game
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>>720589380
shitter
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>>720584712
HOLY FUCK YOU SAVED ME
thank you
thank you
thank you
thank you
thank you
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>>720571665
Tools would be easymode if they didn't have a retarded button choice and aversion to using them on bosses in case you run out of shards when it comes time for your "real" attempt.
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This fat fuck isn't even hard, but I think represents everything bad about so many boss fights
>Wonky ass hit box
>Spawns adds
>Barely any time to hit him turning the fight into a slow slog
>Absolutely wrecked by unbalanced tools
>White on white on white fight messing with visual clarity. Rooms gets darker in phase 2 to add to things.
What the fuck are Cherry even smoking?
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>>720547917
This game is satanic I'm telling you. I can feel it.
Nothing like the first. Pure satanism.

Every secret path is a disappointment.
I just found out there's another Moor Mother fight and now it's just two of them.
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Holy shit if you go to Eva while having a certain substance she tells you forbidden blood courses through your veins and tells you to fuck off
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>>720562640
I first tried this boss, get more items if you are struggling you cretin
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>>720590417
No BITCHES allowed
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>>720590417
pretty rude of her
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>>720590124
making the game hard only helps to endear the player character to the player
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>>720584712
So, uh, eto, I've unequipped the weighted belt and it became infintely more easy to dodge the frontal smash. Thanks anyway.
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>>720590649
it only helps me put down the joystick and finish this shit with cheatengine
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>>720590754
bitch
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>>720553705
>look at this and tell me it's not obvious
The guy in the video literally falls for it...
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>>720590417
Happened to me.
I forgot to kill a couple bosses before I got 'sited so it was pretty aids to kill them without healing for that ending before I went to do the other ending and then am in next act now
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>>720590780
turn your monitor on
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>>720590832
turn your cheats on
oh wait you already did because you're a bitch lmao
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>>720590124
Imagine being an evangelical soccer mom (male) who seriously used words like "satanic".
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I heard /v/s cries about savage beastfly so I put him off until I had needle 3. That bitch died so fast lmao
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>>720570813
>everyone enjoying the games challange
Are you living in opposite land?
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>>720590538
>>720590417
She only reacts if you're junkie mode. She does not care otherwise. Here's the dialogue for those interested.
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>>720591045
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>>720590906
>saying something is satanic means you're a jew loving amerishart
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Just got my 3rd crest after 60 hours of game time. I like it, just wish it didn't fuck with the pogo. Do all of them do this?
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>>720553047
Can't you permanently get rid of those caped bugs that steals your silk by destroying the source of them? I ended up just having two of the Minister bugs instead.
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>>720547917
coral tower made me ragequit for the day. I love fighting 3 gauntlets in a row.
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>>720591282
Every crest alters the attacks and pogo. Some alter the binding and other things too.
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>>720553108
I haven't used any other crest other than Reaper the whole game and I just beat Lace part 2 and the boss immediately after that. Architect's Crest is pure ass, the original crest has the awful downwards swing, the HK crest is risky because there's no Long Nail/Mark of Pride, the Beast Crest is a fucking meme, and the Witch's Crest, while nice, has terrible equipment slots.

I beat pre-nerf Moorwing in one try with the Reaper Crest. I didn't even realize Moorwing was supposed to be an issue, so I was surprised it got nerfed instead of the giant ants, Trobbio, or Lace pt2. Lace's second fight unironically took me longer to beat than NKG.
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>>720592191
Beast crest, Binding, Fire buff, Flea Juice

Ya it's gamer time
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never seen a more shallow indie game than silksong
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So at which points can you upgrade crests? I only upgraded hunter, and the tank dweller said to come back later for more (when?) Is this the only NPC that does crest upgrades?
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>>720572226
I'm 36 hours into SS and I have to say that HK is better. Better story, better music, better map, better pacing, and all of the Silksong-tier bosses are locked in Godhome.

I will say that HK is a 10/10 and SS is a 9.5/10, but HK is just... better in about every single way. The only thing I liked better about Silksong is the quests/quest system. In Hollow Knight, the only side quest you really had was the Grey Mourner quest. If you count DLC, then you can add in the Grimm Troupe quest.
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Holy shit this sequence was fun. Even better when we get naked Hornet.
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>>720593238
The sex goddess of 2017/2025.
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>contact damage
>too much backtracking
>too little currency
>contact damage
>game too hard
>too much platforming
>contact damage
ok but where was all this complaining for silksong 1?
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>Beat the game in Act 2
>Hornet just gets bukake'd in silk and fucking dies
>Unlocked steel soul mode
???
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kek
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>>720562640
The runback is honestly one of the worst in the game, but it's heavily offset by this being one of the easiest (and funnest) bosses in the game.
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>>720579154
>Repeated obstacle: the area
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>>720590417
I NEED to know more about lifeblood team cherry. The next dlc better be a five hour lifeblood lore dungeon.
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Why DID they make this game harder?
I dont recall anyone bitching about the first game being to easy.
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>>720596483
Muh brebare to die :DDDDDD. Can't have the game being too easy in this epic age of git gud.
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>>720595934
Wait what the fuck is this and when is this? I just reached Blasted Steps.
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>>720596483
probably too much time testing so their testers were too good at the game
that being said, the game really isn't that bad
nine sols is much harder
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>Meh neh Frank
What does Hornet mean when she says this?
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>>720547917
But enough about MGS2.
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I got locked out of my gaming desktop a couple months ago and these threads are killing me to read.
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>>720596792
Act 3 tedious climb to get to an area with no worthwhile reward
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>>720593545
>Too little currency
Just equip the Thief's Badge and kill the 3 big boys on the way to the Clockwork Dancers. Easy 150+ beads a run with each run taking ~2 - 3 minutes.
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>>720562640
?????????? you can just jump over them dude
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>>720593545
I've been complaining that the currency is shit since Hollow Knight. It only exists so you can have something to lose on death because Dark Souls did it
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>>720579154
nameless village path was way easier than sands of karak or even mount faye, imo

there's literally only like two types of jumps you have to make, and once you can make those you win
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>>720548693
The boss gives you plenty of time to realize what it's doing and run away
I did
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the game is simply not as good as hollow knight because the zones are less interesting, there are less interesting pickups, removal of charms, the game is way too long, there is less SOUL, and it just flows worse. Hollow Knight is objectively the better game imo. silk song is like 15 hours too long
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>>720547917
Did you learn nothing from Fungal Wastes and Shellwood?
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>>720547917
plebs aren't fans
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>>720549459
All your Health gets replaced with regenerating Lifeblood health, your health cap is what it normally is so unfortunately you don't get a ton of health. Also Binding will only heal one heart (two with the Silkbinder) so it's better to use your silk offensively (i.e. Wispfire Lantern or for rebuilding your other tools). I think using the Plasmium Phial after you've OD'd also can heal one health instantly, but it won't give you extra health over your capacity.
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>>720562640
4?
> First Shrine Bench
> Go through steam rooms, ignore the bat
> Pogo on bells and Clawline to get to exit past the Bell chucker
> Head left, one Bell Reed, just wait for him to do his jump attack and sprint past
> If you take damage you can always go between the boss room and the previous room and attack the Bell Reed while it's waking up for silk
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>>720598104
>there is less SOUL
Despite it problems, this game feels more Soulful than HK, properly because it feels less like a Dark Souls rip off.
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>>720598104
Who is this NTR-coded girl and why do you keep posting her?
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The worst thing in the Last Judge runback is the sound the worm pits make. It's so loud I ended up lowering the sound effect volume in settings.
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>>720598731
Believe it or not, the devs of HK never played Dark Souls before making HK. They said their direct inspirations were... Super Metroid and Symphony of the Night.
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Why are half of the bosses in the game harder than Nightmare King Grimm?
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I wish there were more bosses in the Citadel, I like how bosses like Cogwork Dancers, Second Sentinel and Trobbio show off this sort of lavishness and excess to the place.
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>>720572226
pretty much my thoughts on the game. Played HK and got bored towards the end so I didn't end up finishing it but I haven't been able to put SS down since launch and there's only 1 boss left in act 3
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>>720599104
because hornet is 50x more nimble and acrobatic
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>>720599635
She's faster with her dash, but that's about it. The Knight can just as easily bob and weave and has the better pogo.
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>>720562640
that would require dying to this extremely easy boss
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>>720599104
you don't have shade dash and descend to cheese 95% of attacks
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>>720599194
>Second Sentinel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sixMwga7gU
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>>720600089
You know those music memory rooms throughout the Citadel where you have to repeat the bell sequence back and it gives you parts of a Cogwork Heart? Go find the body that belongs to and then go to High Halls.
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>>720598963
>Believe it or not
I don't believe them. They clearly copied the shit out of it.
>Super Metroid
See this ones influence I can't see.
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>>720600353
Bleak, dreary, gothic aesthetics didn't originate in Demon Souls (2009).
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>>720589746
Agreed. I died like 10 times plus due to contact damage alone.
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Contact damage in ALL cases should only be 1 mask. Change my mind.
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>>720570002
>unfair and ultra hard
What does Elden Ring have to do with this? Maybe try naming an actual hard game
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>>720603093
>Maybe try naming an actual hard game
Hollow Knight: Silksong
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>>720602686
some insects are poisonous to touch
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>>720603618
Nothing in the game inflicts poison contact damage.
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>>720604036
how do you know?
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>>720547917
I got caught in the self destruct and didn't die because it only deals 3 masks of damage and the boss is extremely fair so I was at full health
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>the boss is extremely fair
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What the FUCK is his problem?
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>team cherry making some fox game instead of hollowknight 3

Damn they should just keep riding this train forever
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>>720547917
sorry buddy I've played sonic adventure and gunstar heroes. i saw this shit coming when I saw the doors were still closed and the ball started glowing
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>>720570002
the only thing i didnt like about last judge was the runback.
going from "die in 5 seconds on the first attempt" and slowly climbing to "i know what the fuck every move does and just need to execute" is a satisfying adventure
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>>720600076
I am so glad I didn't discover how busted ground pound was until I did my pantheon 5 playthrough earlier this year. that shit gives you a year of iframes
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Does Reaper inherently have more silk gain per hit or is it's only unique attribute the Bind buff?
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>>720551587
What was his fucking problem?
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>>720606997
From what I saw after using it, what Reaper does is generate some floating silk orbs on hit for a while after binding.
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>>720593483
Why does Hornet's reign overlap almost exactly with Trump's?
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at least the chinese and japanese still have the integrity to criticize the game
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>>720607770
>She's just like me
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>>720570771
>instead of needing to save your silk for heals.
I mean, protip, but: if you were needing to save your silk for heals, you're not good enough to survive the regen period
Same exact deal as Hiveblood in the first game
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>>720607305
thats what i said bitch
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>>720589191
For me, it was the Cogwork Core, specifically the gears that you're required to hit as they move up. You either do a shitton of finessing to compensate for how bouncing on top of it while it's moving leads to an unavoidable hit, or you just use a crest that doesn't have a lot of startup and launch you down while attacking (along with it only having the hitbox in a specific area).
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Oompa Hornet
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>>720607770
Those are about the translations
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>>720600353
>>Super Metroid
>See this ones influence I can't see.
Both games are filled with giant bugs. There's also stuff like in pic related.
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>>720551552
What annoys me so much is that when they don't get a Mimic Tear equivalent to cheese the game, they go full on

>I HATE THIS GAME I HATE THIS GAME I HATE THIS GAME FUCK YOU TEAM CHERRY PATCH THIS SHITTY GAME RIGHT NOW LET ME WIN NOW I FUCKING DEMAND IT!!

These people are cancer
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>>720606997
The wiki doesn't say anything about additional gain without the binding effect
kind of lame, everything seems worse than the hunter's crest. Miyazaki???
Literally everything just has some massive drawback, gimmicky moveset, or a gimmick that pales in comparison to "hitting enemies makes you hit harder" that hunter gets
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>>720551552
elden ring is definitive proof /v/ is shitter county now
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I'm at this part right now. What should I expect?
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>>720611269
Judaism. Unironically.
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>>720606385
Does this thing only do something in act 3?
Speaking of act 3, is there anything i need to do before taking the bell down?
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>>720611806
>rosaries and confessionals
>Judaism
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what if we made a flying enemy
and get this
what if we made it constantly hover exactly X units horizontally of the player
and gave it a ton of health
and it's only attack is a dashing move that puts it out of range again
and we made 500 variants of this for every area



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