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The impossible choice for the balding millennial
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whoever has the best feet
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Aeris. Tifa is a skank ho. fpbp + /thread + dial
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>>720556331
is it impossible because you cropped the correct choice out of the image?
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>>720556865
She's too young.
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>>720556331
Tifa, always
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>>720556468
what do they look like for both of them
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>>720557624
out of 10
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Tifa and I haven't lost any hair, lots of grey's though.
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both of them sexually bullying yuffie
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>>720556331
both low tier design compared to modern gacha waifus
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>>720558404
name a few
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>>720558404
>>720558694
especially ones that are sweet and nurturing like aerith
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>>720556331
>impossible
>90% of men always choose Tifa
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>>720556331
I was never much of a tit guy but Tifa's tits are always appealing
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>>720556468
You're playing the wrong game.
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>>720556471
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU---
AMBATAKAAM
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>>720556331
Im not bald im just taller than my hair
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>>720556331
>Barely any Myrna Wallace art.
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>>720559716
don't @ me ever again
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>>720557624
Then maybe the two over-18ers should step their game up
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>>720560625
who
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>>720561623
Barret wife
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>>720556331
Aeirthhthsshhthh
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>>720556331
Post the full image with Yuffie who is best looking FF7 girl. Would plap plap get PREGNANT the bed would break under us.
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Fine I'll do it myself
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>>720558752
Aerith doesn't feel like that, she feels more like a really horny girl playing the nice girl but overplaying it too
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bro lol i LOVE SAFE HORNY? omg is that heckin' TIFA from the PSX classic Final Fantasy 7 TM? And she's on the Beach?!
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>>720562295
I would love her "flowers", wouldnt you buy some of her "flowers" anon? Id buy a whole bouquet.
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>>720562119
sorry anon, asian women are NOT allowed
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>>720562119
>>720562019
she is an annoying bitch
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>>720556331
The impossible choice is witch one I would deepthroat first.
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>>720562295
>doesn't feel like that
how so
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>>720556331
Whichever one has the biggest bush
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Aerith got ZACKED so Cloud only truly has one non-racemixing option and luckily she's best girl out of the entire series
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>>720556331
Left is hotter.
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>>720562461
>giving a woman a concrete example of "your type" instead of just keeping it vague
They WILL pick that example apart and ignore every good aspect.
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>>720556471
source nigga
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>>720556331
It’s Aerith, right?
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>>720562960
i just tell every woman that they're "my type" because it's so nebulous

in reality I do think that every woman can be my type - I have dated PHD candidates, professors at ivy league schools, musicians, rave sluts, drug addicts, and literal whores. they all have their ups and downs desu. Women fill in the blanks to think "oh, he likes me because *insert positive attribute that they think is really important*"
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Choice made
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>>720563290
>in reality I do think that every woman can be my type
Men seem to be less picky than women when it comes to attraction. I'm not sure if it has something to do with the differences in scarcity or if it's built in.
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>>720562740
BASED
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>>720563285
It's MAI
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>>720557728
>>720559068
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>>720563463
Good one, but the shinobi interrogation one..A+
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>>720556331
Tifa
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>>720562119
YUFFIE YES.
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Sexnei
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>>720564227
loved her in the original crisis core
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>>720560760
I'll do what I want.
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>>720564227
i love her outfit especially her pants
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Huh, ya know, now that I think about it, I've never actually really thought about whether I'd prefer Tifa or Aeris as a partner. Maybe it's because I know it would require a lot of thinking given how difficult a choice it would be...
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>Extratroon33 fag derailing a Final Fantasy thread
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>>720564348
This but unironically. I like them both:

https://youtu.be/ujrn-yfo8Ts

https://youtu.be/y9OwMPZppMg
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>Rebirth if good
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>>720564363
Why not both
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>>720564323
Elena skin for Tifa and Cissnei skin for Yuffie WHEN?
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Blacked Fantasy VII Remake
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Surprised there are no mods for aerith or tifa with cissneis outfit
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>>720556331
It's not even a choice. You use and abuse Aerith until she dies and then marry your childhood sweetheart. Yuffie is the bratty daughter that needs correction.
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>>720564679
Barrett should be hairier.
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>>720564679
muttamerican moment
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>>720564297
that was reverse psychology to make you (You) me with another Lune feet pic, can't believe it worked
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>>720556331
Damn millennials had it rough. At least we have kasumi and ayane.
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>>720564227
She has a pretty sexy walking swaying
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>>720556331
Haven't played the games but Tifa every single time.
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>>720565404
I actually cant fucking stand final fantasy
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>>720565067
nta but this pretty good. Where did you make it. Do you have a similar one for aerith as well
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>>720563494
Men if desperate enough will just fuck anything. Doesnt even have to be a human. Women on the other hand will have an internalized strict criteria but it often falls apart in practice, their attraction is vibes-based but not entirely based in lust like men's
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>>720563463
Only choice. The other two are old hags.
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>>720565728
idk bro I can't get hard for like 75% of women. If there's not a personal attraction or a physical attraction i'm not getting hard enough to stick it in her
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>>720556331
All shitposting aside I thought going in to FF7 I'd prefer Tifa. On paper she has it all. Tomboy, big tits, wears a short skirt with her panties on display when she fights but there's just something about Aeris. Her eyes, her personality, it just draws you in.
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>>720565520
Cringe.
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>>720556468
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEZsGUqgtHQ
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>>720556331
Tifa is my choice, but I wouldn't exactly turn my nose up at Aerith.
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>>720565973
this was me as well. I played rebirth first before the original but mostly because I never owned a playstation when younger and I didnt know about emulation. I like aeriths personality a lot. Her english voice actress did a very good job. she has a sweet voice
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>>720565973
Same. Tifa ended up being one of my least favorite characters. She's just so boring.
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>>720556331
I want both... always wanted a threesome (though sadly I'll never have it because life sucks).
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>>720556331
Yuffie
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>>720566919
her voice actress ruined it i think. no emotion in her voice at all. hope she does a better job in part 3
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>>720566479
They made Yuffie annoying on purpose in the dub because westoid hags hate youthful female charm
There's nothing that makes them seethe more in this world than that
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>>720567097
They're doing it on purpose, westoids are SEETHING at Japanese superiority and actively work to undermine making FF7 an IRL occurrence, ironically fulfilling the prophecy that America is Shinra and Sepiroth is Israel
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>>720567105
>westoid hags hate youthful female charm
I doubt it. Single player FF is mostly men unlike FF14. Besides Aerith is also acts like a qt retard
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>>720556331
Based on social media, the balding have picked Tifa
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>>720556331
The right choice though...
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>>720567105
>>720567464
Aerith is usually the one insulted by hags. Pretty sure Alanah Pearce said you're a pedophile if you like her.

The fact she said that in a game with Yuffie means she's probably just a shipper though.

Some anons here however echo this hag criticism with vague claims of Quirk Chungus (after jacking off to Gwenpool, presumably)

Basically, Aerith Hate is nonsense. Tifa Hate is too but people sort of get that.
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>>720556331
>Picking Aerith
>Picking a woman who very famously gets penetrated by another man on-screen
Enjoy being a cuck.
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>>720556471
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>>720565262
>>720564807
>>720564227
Why don't we have Sexnei videos yet?

Same thing with Priscilla, Chloe, Elena, beach whores?
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>>720567641
Aerith and Elena's VAs are good, Yuffies and Tifa's are deliberately bad because they hate/are jealous of(same thing for women) the characters they are voicing
The hags do a bad job on purpose and the simps just let them fuck it up
Many such cases throughout dubbing, almost like they're mocking the entire medium in some cases
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>>720567572
i dont evennknow if that is a ff charcter
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>>720567827
Freezypop
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>>720568036
what the fuck are you talking about
Suzie loves playing anime characters
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>>720567641
>Pretty sure Alanah Pearce said you're a pedophile if you like
Just remembered this. She did say it. Kek
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>>720568036
i dont think they did it bad on purpose. The actress Brit baron had no experience. Briana white didnt have it either but they lucked out with Aerith
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>>720562119
Did you ever had sex with girl that wears metal chest plate armor ? When her fit body jumps on you and armor made it feels like you got smashed by the train
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>>720568212
>Brit Baron
>Briana White
Should have stuck with porn with those porn stars ah sounding names fr
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>>720568139
I'm talking about HagMAXXERS like Alanah Pearce thinking we should be forced to view their ugly mug on the porn screen instead
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>>720567097
>>720566479
>>720565973
I think the majority of first timers like Aerith more. It's also worth noting Aerith was more popular pre-advent children. Zack becoming "important" basically killed her, suddenly after CC people were mad when they played FF7 OG and she barely mentions him as if that's not a sign CC is a cash-in.

But as for Tifa the problem she had for me with the Remakes is, as I expected, she doesn't do anything until the final game. It's pretty laughable people think she's the main heroine just because she doesn't die.
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>>720568451
>>720567572
The brownoids have arrived
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>>720568589
what does have to do with brit and suzie?
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>>720568696
Hos LARPing as virgins fr
Smdh
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>>720568589
>>720568147
For my next trick I will point out women of color also hate Aerith a lot. Pretty much all the Tifa-shipping accounts who post a lot of unbalanced headcanons about how manipulative Aerith must be are WoC or other femcels
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Impossible because the best girls are in the next three games
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>>720568772
this theory kinda falls apart when Onlyfans whores love dressing up like Tifa to pay their year's rent. Hell, I remember one year they used her fictional birthday to advertise their pages and sales.

I think Brit is just bad.
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>>720568212
They're both basically C tier actors, most of the voice cast is. With that in mind they overall didnt do too poor of a job I suppose, but still prefered to play the game in jp
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>>720568857
post some proof. I only remember Alanahs post
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>>720568971
everyone did a very good job except Tifa's. I was surprised when I found out Aeriths va had no experience. I thought she was some established name
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>>720569008
I mean only so many posts about how they like Ada and Leon, Yor and Loyd, that Aerith actually had a pretty privileged life, and how their parents would beat them if they acted with as much presumption as Aerith before you get it. But fine.
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>>720569127
Orange County White Girls are a very powerful race. Basically every Princess Actor in Disneyland is/was one of them.
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>>720569403
>orange county white girls
that's an oxymoron, they're all asian there
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>>720569505
I said "was" knowing that things could have changed. But Briana is an OC White Girl.
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>>720569403
Was Brian White a former Mouse princess?
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No one actually likes Tifa, they just prefer girls to have big boobs above all else.
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Zissnei!
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>>720569867
Zamn Aerith got gigamogged
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>>720569403
>Orange County White Girls
I thought LA was filled with small browns. I am not from the usa
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>>720569303
>30+
Grim
That's like 60 in man years
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>>720569842
That isn't true, but anyone saying her boobs aren't the big draw is lying more. Again, social media shows us that dudes who like Tifa just like busty bad bitches (usually with the exact opposite personality as Tifa)
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>>720567641
>Aerith is usually the one insulted by hags. Pretty sure Alanah Pearce said you're a pedophile if you like her.
>>720568857
>women of color also hate Aerith a lot

You got a source for this pedophile comment?

Also what the hell I had no idea about this, that's weird as fuck
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>>720569867
so apparently zack is canonically 6ft and Sephiroth is even taller than him. Why did they make cloud into a 5ft7 incel chud
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We like Yuffers
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>>720570134
i'm 6'6, it sucks
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>>720570087
NTA but i did a quick search since i remember her saying it as well. it is still up. there are other screens in the thread where she implies that

https://x.com/Charalanahzard/status/1761145779379748873
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>>720570006
I first noticed some two visibly Indian and Spic girls being very hateful toward one of the least offensive female characters ever (even if you don't like her she's goes for half the game) and it kept coming up. They also tolerated Yuffie just fine so I was like oh fuck off this is so obvious.

This was when Remake was announced and before I kept mental notes on stuff.
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>>720568686
Whiter than you , stupid female meridroid . Fuck the hell out of boyz forum
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>>720570186
Like a plastic doll made of a 14 year old boy's body, yuck.
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>>720570134
>Why did they make cloud into a 5ft7 incel chud
They made Cloud a hugless, kissless, loser, virgin manlet outcast who is made fun of by everyone in his home town and later becomes a schizo so that his fans could self insert as him.
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>>720569702
>But Briana is an OC White Girl.
she should post her ass more
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>>720570342
>but enough about asian women..
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balding millennial here, always Yuffie
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>>720570380
well of course, every balding millennial choses asian women
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>>720570270
Man, that's fucking weird. Why does this game attract such weird people?
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>>720569980
They do all the slave labor while Whites are essentially NEETs
Never been to Cali but I'm from Colorado which just got Colonized by Californians and they did the same thing here but I capitalized on all the wealth flowing in and am NEET now too
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>>720570087
It's not weird at all. Shipping is notorious for people losing their minds hating characters for contrived reasons (Ron Weasly says Hi) and while Female Intrasexual Competition is overhyped by old guys who want to date 19 year olds INTERRACIAL intrasexual competition goes hard as fuck.

Aerith is also pretty much Nojima's autistic fantasy of a white girlfriend so she plays into manic pixie stereotypes of a frivolous white girl.

I was looking for a youtube short where a frump asian woman explains that Aerith is "like, so faaaake" but all I could find is this lying thumbnail
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>>720570283
oof. I ESL'd the fuck out of that post. I apologize.
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>>720570697
>Ron Weasly says Hi
I'm old and I read Harry Potter growing up as they came out, and I don't remember anyone hating Ron Weasley. Why do people hate him now?

>where a frump asian woman explains that Aerith is "like, so faaaake"
So is the frumpy asian woman advocating for Yuffie in this example? Or advocating for Tifa? Cuz has only ever looked asian in Advent Children. She has always looked white everywhere else. (she actually looks half jewish in Rebirth)
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>>720570354
kek. is this true
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>>720569702
>Briana is an OC White Girl
how do we know this. Does everyone talk like that in los angeles
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>>720570453
what is weird

>>720570565
I see. How do you get money for bills though. You stay with your parents or did you meme some disability cheque thing
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>>720571010
"people" don't, though he sucked in the movies, but "shippers" do. It's well known. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RonTheDeathEater

I found it so you can watch. Don't say I gave nothing or refused a challenge
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>>720556331
Can I get a women who wears a swimsuit designed for adults? I'd post a picture of childrens' swimsuits, but I don't want to be on another list.
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>>720570697
>frivolous
How is she Frivolous though. She is quite driven
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>>720572170
no, aerith and tifa are too modest for that
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>>720572189
To be clear, I think these people are wrong and dumb
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>>720572153
>that webm
That's some hardcore projection holy shit
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>>720572116
I did carlife working at a weed dispensary and made big bucks off tips then bought a rentoid house to remodel in the next state over, Nebraska
Don't recommend it though cause I learned those small towns are full of gang stalkers
Guess I'm not a chud anymore so that's good. Not until all gangstalkers are dealt with at least
Even had a staged "accident" that cost me my delivery driving job so I got a payout from the insurance company where I bought land back in Colorado and am now living in a camper building an earthship on rentoid money
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>>720572351
Something about undressed or sluttily dressed Aerith sends me into overdrive
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>>720572153
>I found it so you can watch. Don't say I gave nothing or refused a challenge
Of course not! I can't even begin to wrap my head around this brand of brainrot though. Not with Ron Weasley, not with projecting the imagine of every frenemy a girl has ever had in her life onto Aerith, etc. So fucking weird. How do you even get to that point.
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>>720572236
Gen Z = Low T
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Why are the Turks a fan favorite? They are literal government glowies and are literally responsible for untold deaths by dropping a residential plate on top of a slum. Cloud describes them as hitmen, saboteurs, and kidnappers. But for some reason fans love them, don't understand why.
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>>720572712
Gangstalkers make up 1/3rd of the population
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>>720572454
The WoC who’s into white guys instinctively fears the happy well-adjusted white girl. It doesn’t matter how “bad” she thinks she is, it can all come crashing down in an instant.
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>>720572663
This
>>720572839
And, not to get all political, but people outside of Western Europe lie about everything when it suits them.
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>>720572678
Nothing Low T about liking Yuffie, bro.
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>>720572454
At least the gay boyfriend calls her out on her projection.
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>>720572454
Nah, those girls are plentiful in high school settings.
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>>720572712
They always had a strange role in FF7. In Midgar they're very clear bad guys, then every encounter with them after they're leaning more towards comic relief instead.
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>>720570354
This is why Expedition 33 will never beat ff7
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>>720572153
based moid btfo that foid when he said she was projecting
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>>720572712
Because "funny" comic relief guys. JPs are autistic like that when it comes to comic relief characters. I hate them all with a burning passion in contrast.
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>>720572998
>Nah, those girls are plentiful in high school settings.
I believe the word you're looking for is "Yeah", not "Nah"

Whether or not the type of personalities that she is projecting onto Aerith exist in real life (no one is denying that they do), she is still *projecting* these personality traits onto Aerith, because Aerith is white. She *is* projecting, and the guy even calls her out on her projection.
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>>720572998
I think what he's saying is she's obviously acting like such a girl there.
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>>720572601
>made big bucks off tips
You made enough money to buy a house with tips. Nice man

I am a thirdie so I have no such option. I go to my wagecuckie job everyday which I hate with a passion
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>>720572601
How much rent do you earn per month
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>>720556331
Yuffie > Aerith > Tifa. Tifa just hits uncanny valley to me.
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>>720573121
>comic relief guys
were thet supposed to be? I dont remember a single joke. they arent even like cait sith who is whimsical and talks funny atleast
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>>720572998
That's not the point. She is hating a character for her traits either she herself has or someone she actually knew at high school did because character herself CLEARLY and objectively doesn't exhibit any of those things. Hence the projection
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>>720573232
Miffed Aerith also makes my urges uncontrollable. When Cloud said she'd never 'get angry' again, I felt that
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>>720556331
tifa everytime, not a hard decision. The devs agree aswell. Advent children literally ends with zack with aerith in the lifestream and cloud with tifa.
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>>720573348
Tifa gets mogged by most of Stellar Blade if we're being honest
At least Yuffie has cute gremlin vibes
And Aerith has that Disney Princess thing going on
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>>720573618
From what I've seen from Stellar Blade, the face also looks too artificial to me. I'd prefer the model that Eve was based on.
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>>720573612
>Advent children
An abomination made for a quick cash grab and should never be part of any discussion concerning FF
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>>720572153
Why are women and spergs like this? It's like they process shit the same.
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>>720573612
>AC is 20 years old today
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>>720573412
>were thet supposed to be?
Well they never die so i guess? People go out of their way to let them go at some point which is pretty retarded since they literally try to kill the cast every chance they get.
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>>720565973
just to piggyback off this, i loved crisis core so going in to the remake and aerith acting like Zack didnt even fucking exist made me think she was a total bitch.
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>>720573232
It was tips plus minimum wage which was like $15 for that company, pretty damn good considering I had zero bills to pay, only took a year to buy a house outright
>>720573318
$800, just enough to get by while I do gamedev and webdev and build an eartship. I got a government grant to fix up the place and the retarded contractor tried to jew me on windows that were too small so it had to be redone but I got to keep all the windows, plus mumberg had something similar happen where her contractors tried to jew her on a shitty deck so she gave me all the lumber from the old deck. Still not sure what to build. I'm actually still recovering from the (((accident))) injury(SLAP Tear) I needed surgery it was so bad. Dumb agent thought he didn't total my car, just wanted me to lose my job. Lol
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>>720573612
the devs seem to be signaling they regard AC as a bad ending. What that means, or if they even meant to signal that, remains to be seen. But that movie does also end with Aerith appearing first when Cloud thinks of what he cherishes. And causing him to smile
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>>720573910
I-I assume you mean this post? That's the one that mentions AC and CC damaging Aerith's reception
>>720568679
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>>720556331
pink one is objectively cuter
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>>720573956
I mean some of the writing choices for remake and rebirth are already mind boggling. If it all meant to tie in with AC, what was the point of including all the multiverse stuff to begin with? If Aerith is dead dead, why cheapen the scene by including all that shit at the end?
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>>720556331
Tifa, duh
stupid dumbass
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>>720556331
lol
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>>720574137
The problem with predicting how this will go is that sometimes Square just does stupid shit and makes a bad game
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>>720573417
What is it with TikTok zoomers who learn a new term then plaster it on EVERYTHING. "Oh, this girl dislikes a fictional girl who is acting quite odd. PROJECTION THIS IS PROJECTING I SAW IT ON TIKTOK THIS IS EXACTLY IT DONT YOU GASLIGHT ME I LEARNT IT"
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>>720574245
didn't they have to change that due to autistic screeching?
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>>720573910
>i loved crisis core so going in to the remake and aerith acting like Zack didnt even fucking exist made me think she was a total bitch.
Well, the thing is, Crisis Core didn't exist when Final Fantasy VII was first made, and even Zack himself was like the very last thing ever added to the story in the last few months of development. They had no idea what the fuck they were doing, really, and the original story featured Cloud, "Aerith", and "Sephiroth", and "Aerith" and "Sephiroth" were siblings (in the only sketch that exists, they look like Tifa and Vincent, respectively)
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>>720574270
Because she is acting like the type of girl she is describing Aerith as. That's what's being projected. She is trying to do reputational damage to another 'girl' and act like she was the victim in reality.
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>>720556331
>balding millennial
Real balding millennial will pick both at the same time
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>>720574270
Anon, that is a text book projection. Just because a term has become a zoomer meme word doesn't make it any less applicable. Please don't sperg out like a triggered retard.
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>>720572236
some of you zoomers are alright.
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>>720574137
>If Aerith is dead dead, why cheapen the scene by including all that shit at the end?
It's about grief, Cloud's denial, going into insanity.
At least that's what they should be doing with it.
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>>720574336
Yes, they did change it due to Tifa's fans sending death threats. There was also an incident with how Aerith's death was handled (something about the title of the chapter sounding too positive or something) that they had to change, this time due to death threats from Aerith's fans.
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>>720574039
yeh quoted wrong post

>>720574439
sure, but considering they added the retarded time ghosts there was no reason they couldn't have aerith talk about zack in the remake. Its literally just to keep aerith screechers from pissing and shitting over zack
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>>720574519
Oh, you're calling me triggered? Sound like you're projecting.
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>>720572153
maybe not to that degree, but i do feel Aerith acts overly whimsical
as much of a nag Tifa is in the first remake, she does feel more genuine
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>>720574697
Now you are just being salty. Let it go.
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>>720574582
>Its literally just to keep aerith screechers from pissing and shitting over zack
SE receives death threats from both sides for anything they do. Aerith does allude to Zack, but when you learn that the entire Zack subplot was like an afterthought that was taped onto the original game at the last minute, the whole (mis)handling of the entire relationship stuff makes a lot more sense.
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>>720574746
Oh damn, the Lay's Dill Pickle chips is calling me salty? More projection.
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>>720556471
With her eyes shaped like that she looks like my aunt and that's not okay
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>>720573910
Mental how it's all real
Turks are gang stalkers
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>>720574793
Zack has had chances to be a good character and whiffed on all of them to be fair. I'd be annoyed knowing he's a stone around my waifu's neck
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>>720556471
That's AI traced. We all saw the original.
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>>720556468
You better pray that her feet are small because she will shove it into your anus.
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>>720574513
what is the reason
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>>720556331
Not at all, Tifa 100%.
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>>720574793
>but when you learn that the entire Zack subplot was like an afterthought that was taped onto the original game at the last minute, the whole (mis)handling of the entire relationship stuff makes a lot more sense
Explain.
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>>720570134
>Why did they make cloud into a 5ft7 incel chud
5'7 is average, nigga.
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>>720575494
We generally discourage racemixing but have a soft spot for plappa hapas
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>>720575748
I think it's on his wikipedia page. Basically they were trying to make Cloud's backstory make sense, but they needed another guy to fill in the gaps in the logic and that's how Zack was made. It's also why his model is just a skewed Cloud model.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zack_Fair

concept and creation

Personally speaking I could tell Zack and Tifa were later additions to the story. Tifa had a visual identity but her role kept changing, which is why in the OG she does so little until disc 2 besides appear in flashbacks or couldn't be done by another girl (Don Corneo)
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>final faggotry thread
>0 gameplay discussion
Every time
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>>720576164
>VN discussion
>zero gameplay discussion

how dumb would I look expecting different?
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>>720575748
>Explain
What explanation do you need? Most of the plots (outside of the original Midgar) in Final Fantasy VII don't make a lot of sense. Zack was the last thing added in development, a few months prior to release.

Interestingly enough, Fight Club (the book) came out the year prior to Final Fantasy VII releasing in Japan. In enough time that Zack could have been added after someone read Fight Club, if there were any people fluent in both languages on the team.
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>>720576353
the real deep lore is that Tifa, as we know her, was a late addition too. She was designed early, because "Aerith" (this is what Nomura calls the original draft heroine, good enough for me) was going to look like her. Then they made decided she should contrast Sephiroth. And Tifa was made into a vaguely defined female Avalanche member who knew Cloud before and then was sewn into his full backstory once that took shape.
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>>720576164
It's honestly perfect
Between that and FallOut 4 I'm having a Kino RPG experience
Trying to keep them going as long as possible
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>>720576549
Yeah, it's very obvious that a lot of the game is hastily cobbled together. I did play the game as a kid and I thought it was cool and whatever, but I had played better, more coherent, more cohesive games on the SNES, so I did not and still don't get all the hype surrounding Final Fantasy VII. If it were released today and did not have 25 years worth of "this is the best game ever" behind it, I think people would make fun of the obvious plotholes and instances where things don't make as much sense as they should.
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>>720576549
>>720576089
>mysterious childhood friend with little to no backstory turns into sexy, confident, and the prime love interest
You know, it almost makes Aerith seem more pathetic. Tifa is undoubtedly the official ship. They just will never say it as long as they like money. It will be clear by Remake part 3 since the series will be (potentially) finally finished and they already know fans of the original know what to expect due to the original ending and AC. Remake part 3 will go into AC and show Cloud and Tifa living together like before, or Tifa moving on without Cloud due to him sacrificing himself this time around. It'll all still point to Aerith being second bitch.
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>>720577739
Aerith is the main love interest because she's favored for as long as there is a choice.

And it's kind of obvious you resent her for being that in the little sermon you're giving. The real story is that Tifa's fans are competing with someone they believe has no chance, meaning Aerith gave your a neurosis
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>>720577739
>tifa
>confident
Tifafags just like her for her tits and ad lib her personality afterward Example 203450
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>Sweet flower girl who sticks by your side after a chance encounter and heals you
>slut who never tells you the truth about soldier, loves another man, but she has big boobs
Yah, real tough choice
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>>720578274
Rude but it is funny how in Anon World, Aerith charming the womanizing Zack but he died before they did anything is a mark against her... while Tifa "never having had a boyfriend" dressed as she is inspires confidence.
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>>720578717
Tifa is more of a blank slate that lonely virgins are able to project any desirable trait onto than Aerith is. That's why everyone pretty much agrees on what Aerith's personality is, but Tifa is like a million different things to a million different people.
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>>720579454
>AC is bad because it got Cloud and Aerith wrong
>is a movie where Tifa is famous a colossal nag

Perfect own goal. They were honest they don't care about how she seems because they didn't catch what they were(n't) saying.
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>>720577991
She's favored due to fan autism and the devs realizing she was a cash cow. I "resent" her for being boring and cliche most of the time, in both games. Her death is her best scene, in the OG and remake/rebirth.
>>720578081
She is hot and that's a plus, but she is confident and that's shown a lot in OG and somewhat in the remakes but they're building on it more. Tifa wasn't a pushover pussy. Never was. She was just careful around a shiczo, mako-filled childhood friend who obviously was unwell and had issues. She wasn't being a happy-go-lucky ditz like Aerith because she knew there were bigger problems with Cloud. Aerith is just dried up and wants someone to fuck.
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>>720578717
Her outfit has nothing to do with it. She tells cloud to fuck off while she spends “the day” with another man in her room
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>>720579694
lol you clearly resent her more than that. Of all the revisionism the idea that Tifa was actively doing anything to figure out Cloud is the biggest. "Ditzy" Aerith comes closer if you read between the lines of her Gold Saucer date. Thinking Tifa is proactive while Aerith is just Le Girl is the second biggest Tifafag trope besides thinking she and Cloud were childhood friends.
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>>720577739
cloud living tifa is so cheap it's basically an Indian arranged marriage. fostered by a 12 year old tifa
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>>720556331
It's impossible because you cropped out the best choice.
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>>720580752
no
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>>720573148
>this girl is projecting!!
>as she makes blunt claims that make her look bad instead of pretending to be a nice person
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>>720581438
>tries to pretend she was the victim of some vague type of girl
>apparently carries this grudge to an autistic japanese man's waifu
>exhibits the same fakeness and shallowness she is obviously describing
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I pick penelo
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>>720576549
the concept of of Tifa's character in the released game is a late addition but the design was not
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>>720581820
That's exactly what I said
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>>720556331
Easy choice Tifa is simply a better woman.
Said 'I can fix him'
And then fucking did so.
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>>720581637
>tries to pretend she was the victim of some vague type of girl
pretty sure it's the guy claiming that rather than the girl saying it happened
>exhibits the same fakeness
By being blunt about her feelings? If that were the case I feel like she'd change the subject rather than expose her actual thoughts.
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>>720582198
"longhoused"
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>>720582237
nigga, I think everyone else can just tell she doesn't organically think this about Aerith. She just likes Tifa because she's an Asian dating a white guy and is being rivalrous. Which is the sort of thing you expect from the girls she describes.
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>>720582046
should have posted that pic then
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Chadley's kinda cute.
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>>720582354
I prefer saying what I know to be true and letting people's ignorance filter them
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>>720582345
>I think
Thanks for verifying you're making a presumption. Again, if she was projecting then she would be acting nice instead of being blunt.
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>>720582479
Meanwhile someone else can post proof and their words will have more weight
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>>720582513
Do you really think she played the game and thought the girl who died saving the world is a fake? In life you have to be capable of intuition, anon
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>>720582607
NTA, but I don't post pictures either, because it's not my task to post proof against people, who are wrong, if they reject my truthful words without verifying them. I know I'm right, so I feel just fine, if people are wrong on the internet, neither do I care if someone else swoops in to take credit.
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Why is Nomura so obsessed with Rinoa? Dude's so down bad he redesigned Tifa to be a Rinoa clone.
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>>720582354
I'm not that guy, but his post is an extension of the conversation we were already having where I mentioned it: >>720574439
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>>720582951
>the girl who died saving the world
Is your claim that she intended to die for the world?
>you have to be capable of intuition
Intuition does not always end up with the correct answers though, or is that another claim you're making?
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why did this turn into a schizo thread
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>>720582959
>it's not my task to post proof against people
and people can easily disregard you until you do
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>>720583169
Final Fantasy, and especially Final Fantasy VII, is marred with various types of schizos. Look up Final Fantasy House if you haven't already. Shit goes waaay back.
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>>720583123
I don't see any proof being posted though, just claims
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>>720583169
because it's FF7
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>>720556331
>no good sfm porn of them in these outfits
what are zoomers even good for
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>>720583129
lol okay, so you're just defending a fellow fan. Unless you claim Aerith would not have done what she did know she'd die this argument is pointless (and in Rebirth she does know she'll die)

Intuition backed by pattern recognition does 95% of the time. This girl isn't complicated and we don't need to reject what we can expect to be true in favor of willful ignorance.
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>>720583207
>>720583271
Well no one did because it all made sense and, as it turned out, the proof did exist because you posted it. Fucking retards
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>>720570058
This looks absolutely nothing like Angela
I expected more of esteemed coomers like the Marvel Rivals team
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>>720583271
Sorry bro, the conversation is over 20 years old, I just assume that if I describe something that people know what I'm talking about, and no one even asked for proof as far as I know, you just showed up angry for no reason.
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>>720583207
Which I said was just fine. If they don't want to learn, it's how it. Plus it'll only hurt them.
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Having a fave ff7 girl is fine but once you reach the point where you're actually angry someone chooses the other girl or you have convinced yourself the other girl is bad or malicious or evil and so are those who like her, then you've completely lost your mind and become another delusional shipper schizo
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>>720583401
>in Rebirth she does know she'll die
Is she doing the same thing over and over or is she trying to defy fate?
>Intuition backed by pattern recognition
And how much does pattern recognition work vs just intuition? Show your work.
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>>720583579
Currently an anon is trying the "but Aerith didn't know she'd die with a crazed supersoldier after her" gambit, which is only ever done by crazed shippers because everyone else can tell she isn't motivated by mere self-preservation
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>>720583469
>no one did because it all made sense
So there was never a case where something made sense but in actuality the outcome occurred despite it being a result of something that didn't make sense?
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>>720583563
>something that people know what I'm talking about
then why mention it at all?
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>>720583657
are you also an Asian woman anon? Do you feel called out?

We don't actually know until Part 3 but notably she doesn't try to defy fate in a way that endangers calling on Holy and dying in the process. Intuit that if you can.
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>>720573910
Aerith mentions Zack to Cloud at the playground and her Mother later mentions him too when she tells Cloud to leave without making sound
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>>720583829
>>720583916
You're trying to sound super logical but really you're just pedantically obstructing understanding over a completely null factor, and arguing against creating working hypotheses. while also defending a rightly reviled asian hole
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>>720583967
>We don't actually know
Did you even play Remake?
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>>720583916
>then why mention it at all?
Because it was relevant to the conversation.

Why does this make you so upset? Why are you seething about something that's true and was already accounted for and talked about?
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>>720583579
I'm actually angry at people choosing NuTifa. Well, unless they simultaneously hate real Tifa, but I haven't met anyone yet, who embodies both positions. Anyway I would be able to respect the consistency then, but as said it's still theoretical.
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>>720584085
>you're just pedantically obstructing understanding
I'm not the guy claiming claiming a woman is projecting when she's doing the opposite of what she's claiming someone comes off as doing in her opinion
>a rightly reviled asian hole
the irony being you're just as judgemental or even moreso than her
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>>720584114
>is trying to defy fate
>still takes the risk of dying for the greater good
QED

Anyway a character saying something 40 hours prior isn't automatically relevant to everything they do. When I say "we don't know until Part 3" I mean we don't know if she died again in a larger plan to defy fight instead of it being the right thing to do because defying fate might fail. Duh.
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>>720584308
>>720584114
>>720583967
Changing fate for Aerith was to avoid AC
Changing fate for the players meant to save aerith
And the theme of the game is to let her go
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>>720584295
We've given you reasons why it's retarded to take her word at face value. We shouldn't have had to. And how her grudge-bearing behavior is similar to what she's criticizing

You are stretching having nothing to say past its breaking point
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>>720584157
>it was relevant to the conversation
Was it though? Seemed more like a tangent since it was started off with "the real deep lore is that..."
>Why does this make you so upset?
It doesn't though, we're having a discussion from my point of view. You seem to be upset the way I see it.
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>>720580354
>thinking Aerith is really more than just a "fleeting" feeling of romance
>actually thinking Cloud would choose the slum drunk over his childhood crush, whom he fell off a fucking cliff for
Think what you want, anon. Aerith is always second best. She didn't even have a fight with Cloud in KH. Its everywhere, she's not that good.
>>720580543
>end up with friend and hottie you've gone through hell and back with
>cheap
If you say so.
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>>720584657
Because you're obviously not detached but are annoyed we didn't praise you for posting what we already knew and established
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>>720584657
>Was it though?
Yes. It was relevant to the conversation. That's why I brought it up. Why does it make you so upset? Please answer my question.
>Seemed more like a tangent since it was started off with "the real deep lore is that..."
Though that is true, it was not my post. My first post in that conversation was this one: >>720574439
Which I have already linked you to. You are so weirdly upset and I'd like to know the reason that you are so upset, because to me you are very angry for no reason.
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>>720561856
I thought that was Dyne
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>>720584717
Cloud kills Sephiroth and saves the world for Aerith, twice.
Also even in KH, despite being Nomura's fanfiction, Aerith is his love interest. Her not fighting or doing anything proves it because neither does Kairi. That's just how Nomura writes.
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>>720584836
Dyne wife looks like Marlene
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>>720584308
>history shows Aeris dies but in doing so she saves the planet and Midgar/possibly the entirety of humanity
>Aerith is now trying to "change" things for the same fate
What would you say is the most logical reason for her to do that?
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>>720584886
"and Marlene isn't black like Barret and Myrna. Weird. What's up with that? Did Barrett cuck Dyne" This is what 4chan would conclude if we weren't told she's Dyne's daughter
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>>720584951
>CLOUD HE'S VIOLATING MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH DO SOMETHING
Her and Chadley were sovl
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>>720584760
>annoyed we didn't praise you
I don't care about praise though, if that were the case I'd be the fake person who pretends to be nice.
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>>720584951
GUTTENTAG
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>>720556471
source
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>>720584940
I'd say wanting to live in general is not exclusionary with being willing to die for the greater good when it comes to it. Heroes aren't suicidal and masohcistic suicide-cases aren't heroic. Again you're just an idiot trying to sound smart.
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>>720584798
>that is true
Thanks for vindicating me
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>>720584940
uh, you are aware Sephiroth time-traveled too right? You think that might be a reason? The fact their struggles hadn't stopped him?
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>>720585118
>Thanks for vindicating me
No one knows why you're upset, and you refuse to tell anyone why you're upset.

Please read my post: >>720574439
and please answer my question: Why did you walk into this thread so upset, and why are you continuing to be so upset?
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>>720585091
You didn't answer the question which is the point of contesting whether or not Aeris expected to die saving the planet and why she's trying to change things.
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>>720585118
we can tell you wanted validation bro
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>>720585198
Then why is she so concerned about change? It's inevitable if that's her goal.
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>>720585048
WIE GEHTS
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>>720585247
I clearly headed you off before you got where you wanted to go. Also it's gay not to just assert your argument directly. You're hoping I misspeak for a gotcha so that's why you're trying the fake Socrates act
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You now remember Weiss the Immaculate
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>>720585346
damn you tried but all we got was mush. "Why would Aerith want to avert Sephiroth still being capable of going back and changing the past?"
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>>720585202
>you're upset
I'm not though, that's you making an erroneous assumption
>Why did you walk into this thread so upset, and why are you continuing to be so upset
See above. I make a posts and you reply to me so I will continue to reply as long as it takes to address your concerns.
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>>720556471
Why does the mouth randomly go into uncanny valley stretch
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>>720585461
Weiss had more impact as a superboss than a character in DoC
at least hes kinda cool in remake
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>>720585507
Damn, one might say you're acting fake and helpful but are obviously just a sniveling malcontent
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>>720585286
If no one responded to me I wouldn't have made a separate post asking for validation and neither would I if you simply stopped replying to me. Care to see if that happens?
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>>720585507
You walked into this thread incredibly upset about a fact that has already been explained, described, and moved on from, and no one here know why you're so upset, it's just abundantly clear that you are.
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Nice to see that even without me around you just find someone else to have an embarrassing schizo melty over
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>>720584951
>>720584951
my wife, yes i will kill 5 enemies within the time limit for you Fräulein
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>>720585636
So you'll be stuck here getting insulted if we keep replying to you?

Anyway this Aerith debate is retarded. Her motives are clear and plain. Trying to cast aspersions on them because she'd maybe like to live if it's not too much trouble is demented.
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>>720585382
>I clearly headed you off before you got where you wanted to go
No, you ended up right where I intended the conversation to go, which is "do you think Aeris wants to sacrifice herself" and there is zero evidence that Aeris or Aerith has that mentality.
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>>720584951
ES IST ZEIT FUR RACHE
DER JUDEN WIR MUSSEN AUSRAUTEN
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>>720585593
>one might say you're acting fake
That's on you to prove.
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>>720585645
>You walked into this thread incredibly upset
see >>720585960
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>>720585884
bad timing bro lmao

Some would say the metaphysical nature of the character as a martyr proves you wrong but they actually just had her say it
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>>720584951
love how square is one of the few jap companies that have dedicated translation teams that translate directly into the target language
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>>720585884
>"do you think Aeris wants to sacrifice herself"
Disingenuous semantic shift. Nobody said Aerith WANTS to die. They say she would sacrifice herself for the greater good. Read the thread.
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>>720586076
>the metaphysical nature of the character as a martyr
to which I again ask where does she affirm that her intent is to die so the planet is saved?
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>>720585884
got rekt by a random post above his lmao
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Did the upset guy ever explain why he was upset?

I think he just came in, was upset about nothing, said "no u" a few times, and then left?
Or he's probably still here arguing with someone about something.
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>>720585374
Ayyyy BLEACH EM TEACH EM
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>>720586216
Literally the post above yours but you're gonna say she doesn't literally say it so it isn't true even though she consistently acts that way.
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>>720586216
If Aerith thinks she can save the planet and not die do you think she won't try to go that route?
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>>720586413
He's arguing the Asian lady isn't wrong in her assessment of Aerith because Aerith technically never says she'd be willing to die for the Planet and instead merely acts that way when the story escalates.

I'm assuming he is the Asian lady at this point.
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>>720586675
>I'm assuming he is the Asian lady at this point.
fucking kek holy shit that'd be quite the reveal
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>>720586485
He's arguing that because she would choose life in that context you can't say she put the needs of others before herself in canon. It's retarded
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>>720585871
No, you'll be stuck here with me after proving that it's not about me needing validation because I gave you a chance to prove it and you diregarded it
hope >>720586253 wasn't you highlighting your own post desperate for attention because I missed it, that would be rather hypocrtical
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>>720586816
>another longwinded No U
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>>720586747
This makes the whos SEETHE out of their minds
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>>720586675
The argument is people say she's projecting but projecting means she accusing other people of things she herself is guilty of. In this case she isn't a cunt pretending to be nice, she's just a cunt.
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>>720587049
And other people think it's obvious she was the very cunt she describes as a girl because only a retard would trust her account of events
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>>720586747
So basically nothing is changing then and the trilogy is effectively useless.
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>>720586874
Good job avoiding the part about me supposedly needing validation. Are you willing to test out that theory or not?
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schizo thread
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>>720587118
>people think
i.e. an assumption rather than proof
why not just call her a cunt instead of pretending to be "nice" while actually being mean?
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>>720587134
I think Aerith is obviously gonna live and people are kidding themselves. Maybe I'm wrong and just missed them but aren't her best weapon and limit break not in Rebirth? Not the only reason I think that but it's an easy one
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Quit arguing about which girl is better. Post them both in lingerie before I lose my mind
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>>720587319
if you're gonna care about "proof" you have to realize that the framing of a cunt isn't something you should take at face value and that people who have an opinion based on a general pattern that fits all the known facts isn't unreasonable
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>>720587247
>trooncord alerting their (((Turkish Masters))) that naughty goyim need to be spied on and have their rights taken again
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>>720587348
>Aerith is obviously gonna live
That would invalidate over 2 decades of FF7 lore and material. Surface level fans will eat it up but anyone that cares about the original will see it for what it is, a slap in the face of FF7's narrative meaning anything
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>>720585374
That fucking random NPC has a pretty toned midriff
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>>720587690
Damn.
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>>720587631
Well that would include Square themselves

But also Aerith has been grossly demeaned for dying and called a slut for not mentioning Zack enough in the OG for 15 of those years now. I just don't think the devs give a shit if the fans don't
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>>720587436
you're still admitting it's a presumption and one that is not backed by any kind of proof because she never pretends to be nice
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>>720587550
>concept art shows Tifa wearing a fucking thong underneath her slutwear
>actual game doesn't have her wearing a thong
We were robbed
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>>720587832
>Well that would include Square themselves
Of course, the trilogy is a clear money grab as evidenced by them making it a thing due to Sony funding them.
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>>720587690
Artist?
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>>720587631
It's already happening in a different universe. The narrative is safe. OG Aerith remains dead as a doornail until the release of VII-2, where they'll fire one of the three Checkov's gun resurrection methods they introduced post-VII.
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>>720588331
>It's already happening in a different universe
Which only furthers the pointlessness of the trilogy
>the release of VII-2
Wasted money IMO. The audience they want to replace the console boomers who loved FF7 don't care about JRPGS or even action RPGs with FF7 slapped on them.
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>>720587894
I really doubt most of her content is cunting it up. Go watch it all and prove me wrong
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>>720589268
I don't care if she is a cunt who pretends to be nice, I want people to prove their claims since they seem to have gotten butthurt enough over some cunt being blunt about how she views a fictional character to claim she's projecting when they don't even seem to know her
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blonde aerith is my wife
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>>720589775
Grim
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>>720556331
And the easiest choice for a norwood 1 zoomer.
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>>720589775
i prefer a true white girl
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My beautiful wife Aerith
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>>720591005
isnt aerith a white girl as well
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>>720557624
retard
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she is quite qt even though she is fat. I think it is her warm smile and sweet voice
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>>720556471
Barret POV
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>>720572662
>best suit ported into rebirth
welp that's enough reason to try this game once and for all
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>>720599559
I want to lick Ifalna's pits
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>>720599559
>three low effort posts in 1 hour
So desperate to get your relevancy narrative going isn't? Absolutely forgotten game.
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>>720556331
Aerith. Easy.
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>>720556331
Synthetic Man says tifa is the only choice because nu-aerith wants to turn cloud into a tranny
Also she's a flower girl aka prostitute
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>>720605467
Square Enix puts Cloud in mascara in his default character model
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Yuffie because she actually puts out.



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