>>720668186How the fuck? Last time I tried Saturn emulation on my PC it was laggy inaccurate dogshit
>>720668186Still emulation.
>>720668572Hardware emulation retard, which is far superior in accuracy, latency, and compatibility than dogshit software emulation.It's literally 1:1 experience with original hardware, while software emulation is an ugly tranny wearing a wig and a dress and claiming xe's a real woman now.
>>720668186>according to one of the people who works on it
nice bullshit beep boop box bitch boy
>>720668186How much is this box?
>>720668753Retard
>>720668186>>720668735>>uhm actually, the FPGA simulates the original hardware!>only now runs properlyIt's an emulator implemented in verilog. It's not the original chips, it's the exact same thing as running it on the PC with software emulation (with the exception of needing to pay more for chinkshit mister hardware and being less user-friendly).>It's literally 1:1 experience with original hardwareWhy wasn't the saturn core passing every test then??? Why does the GBA core fail some tests if it's 1:1 with the original hardware?
>>720668893Less than $200 pre-built and plug and play. It supports up to and including PSX/Saturn/N64 better than the best software emulators.
Don't buy an ad, just kill xirself
>>720669024Retard. Hardware emulation has a ton of inherent advantages. It has much better inherent accuracy, ceiling for accuracy, way easier to dev for, targets a single spec, zero input latency, zero audio latency, and native support for CRTs and OEM controllers.But that still doesn't mean you hit the "make core" button and put poofs a perfectly accurate core. So it's a good thing we had/have the brightest and most passionate minds in the space working tirelessly to make the most perfect cores possible.As it stands now, basically every single main core is 100% compatible, has zero recorded issues, is more accurate than the most accurate software emus, and is completely indecipherable from OG hardware using any game in the library even to the most scrutinized criteria.>NES core has the highest result on AccuracyCoin testrom of any emulator in existence >MD core gets one fail on the most intensive MD test rom, compared to 3-5 fails depending on version with the most accurate software emulators, BlastEm and Nuked>GBA core is one of only a couple emulators in existence that passes AGS Aging Cartridge (Nintendo's own internal test for their hardware) with 100% accuracy >NEOGEO core is cycle accurate using fucking decaps of original hardware and far better than MAME and FinalBurn>Saturn core has 100% passed literally every test that even exists for the Saturn, blowing away software emulation >N64 core has better accuracy, lower latency, and better compatibility than Ares, the most accurate N64 software emu>PSX core is cycle accurate and has zero compatibility issues compared to the dozens of Duckstation and MednafenEtc etc.Fucking cope with your shitty ass laggy software emu poorfaggot
>>720668186I will just emulate on my pc at 4k
>>720669114Please hire a marketer, you trannies are so bad at trying to shill thisT. Fpga developer for fagman
name 5 good saturn games
>>720669297NiGHTS and...Uh. Shit.
>>720669114>inherent advantages>better inherent accuracyIf you simulate hardware incorrectly (which all of the mister cores do, because they don't implement 1:1 asics that the original hardware uses) then there's nothing "inherently" more accurate.>ceiling for accuracyWhat the fuck is this even supposed to mean? There are 100% cycle-accurate emulators for PC that exist. Does your fucking shilled mister garbage do 110% accuracy? The only cope is your bullshit, you're either trying to sell your shitty hardware or you have buyer's remorse.
>>720669427He's trying to sell it, he's probably the dev, hence the glazing of the devs he constantly does. Makes like ten threads a day
>>720669297Grandia. The other versions look like shit.
>>720668186>huge mister fan excited to play an emulated game for the very first time
>>720668186I still don't get the market of these. People are either gonna emulate it or just buy the consoles themselves, it's such a pointless niche.
>>720669028$200?! You might as well buy switch 2 at that point
>>720668186Saturn has no games
>>720668932So no?
>>720668186Why would I want to perfectly replicate old consoles? I want games to run at 1080p60fps or higher, not 240p12fps garbage.
>>720669427>then there's nothing "inherently" more accurateParallel nature of FPGA, development for a single spec, perfect input latency and audio latency. And regardless, they ARE the most accurate, so we don't need to imagine hypotheticals in which they aren't >There are 100% cycle-accurate emulators for PC that existIf you think cycle accurate is the ceiling for accuracy and means 100% perfect accuracy you are a genuine imbecile
>>720668186>another threadNobody cares. Emulators are good enough for men, and the Saturn has no games. Show it playing games at 4k120.
>>720668186>passes the test>the test created by the chinkware devs>no mention of gamesTransvestite thread, enjoy it before Trump cuts off your hormones.
>>720669427>cycle accurate means completely perfectYour double digit IQ is showing, smoothbrain
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>>720671148bubble symphonybubble memoriesburning rangers
>>720671581Oh, I accidentally cut off:Alisia DragoonAmokArcade Gears Vol. 1 - Pu Li Ru LaArcus OdysseyAssault Suit Leynos 2AstalBaku BakuBattle GareggaBlazing HeroesBulk Slash>Burning RangersCastlevania Symphony of the NightCotton 2 and Cotton Boomerang
>>720671148If those games are so good then why as I 33 year old have I never been shilled by /v/ into playing a single one of them? Czechmate
>>720669715Original consoles are the pointless niche. MiSTer offers a completely identical experience with optional enhancements. MiSTer is like having every 1st-5th gen console, all with everdrives, all RGB modded, plus with a retrotink 4k. It's a no-brainer
>>720671949You are so autistic you just don't know how to actually respond to people. Maybe you are a fiver jeet just copy pasting pre-allowed responses
Nope, going to use my phone.
>>720671949>I'm a no-brainerftfyStop shilling your emulator box when software emulators are clearly superior.
I emulated all the Panzer Dragoon games like 3 years ago on Kronos and it worked fine ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>720671949Meanwhile my existing PC is like having every 1st-6th gen console, and PC games. Plus I don't need a retrotink(?) to use it with 4k. I can also point my emulators to my 30 TB network share and I don't need to bother with moving games or save files around like a fucking caveman banging rocks together.
>>720668186Passing tests =\= playing games.
>>720671742Threads about the new Panzer Dragoon Zwei demake alone proves you wrong. Some games you probably don't need to play on Saturn though, admittedly, Symphony of the Night is more of a curiosity (I removed Megaman X4 for the same reason), various arcade ports should probably be left off a pure Saturn list even if they have some unique features (like Street Fighter Alpha 3's Saturn port, which I did remember to take off my master list), and I guess even if we were being generous and adding back games better played elsewhere, you're hardly missing out on a lot.
>>720668324When did you try? SSF ran games perfectly on a toaster (my laptop in 2008) for eg.>>720668735>which is far superior in accuracy, latency, and compatibility than dogshit software emulation.This is completely untrue.>It's literally 1:1 experienceRubbish. These FPGA's are in constant WIP. They need updates. They have compatibility errors. They have graphics and sound bugs etc.They are no better than software emulation.
>>720668893About $500US once you get all the addons it requires.And it only emulates generation 3 and 4 consoles (NES/SNES).Arcade and everything else is still WIP and the actual CPU that runs it isn't fast enough, which is why there's not PS1/Saturn/N64 or anything newer.
>>720672940Oh I didn't see castlevania, since you left it off at first. I'll give you that one but as you said you don't have to play it on saturn
>>720669297Bulk SlashGuardian HeroesThe Legend of OasisPanzer Dragoon SagaShining the Holy Ark
>>720669114Yes yes all these """potentials"""...In reality the end result-is no more accurate than software-does NOT have less input lag (retroarch surpasses og hardware and FPGA).-only emulates 3rd and 4th gen systems>has zero recorded issues,I saw alien soldier crash on mattewmatosis' stream. He had to do an online update to fix the compatibility issue.If he was just using any genesis emulator made in the last 20 years this wouldn't have happened.
>>720669114you really dont have any idea what you're talking about lolbut i guess fools and their money are easily parted
>>720669715We worked out why people want these a few months ago in a thread here.People were at first claiming they are somehow superior to software emulation, but when proved wrong, they all admitted that they just wanted these things because they like to have "a dedicated box" in their lounge room that emulates games, and couldn't be bothered setting up a SFF PC or laptop.
>>720669883It has hundreds of exclusives and a far superior library to the N64.>>720671148Centy is a megadrive game.
>>720671679>Alisia DragoonMegadrive game.>>720671949You are so full of shit.Mister does not emulate beyond 4th generation.It is not identical because the thing requires internet connectivity and online updates because the cores are NOT 100%
>>720673328>I saw alien soldier crash on mattewmatosis' stream. He had to do an online update to fix the compatibility issue.Well THIS time it's perfectly accurate!
>>720669239What does fagman use fpgas for? I only really know them for their radar system applications t. RF engineer for government leeches
>>720668186About 15 or so years ago, there was some really shitty PS1 emulator that used plugins (like epsxe) which passed a whole bunch of tests that other emulators failed..... but it couldn't actually play any games properly.Because those tests are useless.It's like claiming a GPU is really good because you ran it through one of those synthetic benchmark apps which spat out some arbitrary numbers, but you didn't actually test it on any games.
>>720668186whats this do that mednafan on my odin handheld doesnt
>>720673917network traffic processing, crypto (not the coin shit), transcoding
jej
>>720668186Cool, now all Saturn needs is games other than arcade slop.
>>720668735Still emulation.
>>720674203nothing, including cost several hundred dollars.
>>720673328>runaheadRetardIt's never recommended to use run-ahead as it increases input lag variance for slightly lower raw input lag. It's also not accurate to original hardware, has limited implementation depending on internal game lag and how intensive it is to run, and can cause various issuesThe only rare edge case in which it may be worth it (and even then, not really and it's inaccurate), is games that are easy to run accurately, have significant inherent gameplay lag (5+ frames), and games where reaction speed is more important than timing (not many). In these cases, the raw input lag improvement is so large that it could (arguably, but not really) outweigh the increase in input lag variance that it brings.Also run-ahead is not going to remove any inherent lag from your setup or V-Sync lag, which will usually be 2-3 frames at least unless you have a very lag-optimized setup. Additionally it does nothing to improve audio latency. So no, you are certainly not getting original hardware/MiSTer CRT level input lag, and you certainly aren't getting that level of input lag consistency either
>>720673640This thread is literally about a 5th gen core you colossal fucking retard.MiSTer supports N64, Saturn, and PSX, all of which are 5th gen, and all of which are more accurate than the most accurate software emulators.
>>720668186Why not just buy a Saturn at this point? Why go through all this pain?
>>720673328>-is no more accurate than softwareCategorically false, see >>720669114>-does NOT have less input lag (retroarch surpasses og hardware and FPGA).Dumbass. See >>720676001>-only emulates 3rd and 4th gen systemsAre you retarded? PSX, N64, Saturn are 5th gen. This is how fucking stupid the average anti-MiSTer disinformation shill is>I saw alien soldier crash on mattewmatosis' stream. He had to do an online update to fix the compatibility issue.MD core is ons of the most accurate cores in existence and its accuracy is extremely well documented. See pic related. One person having a freeze on some unknown version at some unknown date does literally absolutely nothing in the slightest to change that, retard
>>720676942Forgot picThe most intensive accuracy test for the MD. MiSTer has one single failure. Nuked and BlastEm, the most accurate software emulators in existence, have 3-5 failures depending on version (the same fail plus 2-4 more)
It boggles my mind that retards try to come in here and talk shit not even knowing something as basic and foundational as MiSTer being able to emulate 5th gen (as if the fucking OP post didn't already make that blatantly obvious)Actual birdbrains
>>720677223>mfw mednafan passes all the tests
>>720668186Buying hardware exclusively to emulate is the dumbest shit I've heard of, might as well buy og hardware.
>>720677850It doesn't
>>720678273oh really? you sure?
>>720678669Yeah, it has timing and RDP issues compared to BlastEm and Nuked, and those latter fail multiple items
>>720678669Now tell me why I care about all that. I can play at 4k120 on my PC.
>>720679117mednafan runs on your pc anon
>>720678669Retardbro... that's not how it works... you don't just edit an image in paint and your emulator is perfectI don't even need to bother with the rest of the tests. This is an embarrassing result
>>720679483Nice photoshop fpgashill
>>720677850>>720678669>>720679483Are software emutards really this pathetic?Literally shitting their diaper and throwing a tantrum because they can't accept reality that MiSTer is more accurate
>>720678669>>720679483Why don't you guys record this test happening?
>>720680021Retard he literally took the exact same screenshot compilation with the exact same dimensions and just copy-pasted one square in paintIf you want to test it yourself, download the test rom, download mednafen, drop the bios files into mednafen folder, and just drag the .bin file onto the mednafen .exe file. shit fails instantly.
>>720668186Why should I care? I use emulators to play games, not run benchmarks. It's like hiring a Russian literature major to translate runet shitposts.
>>720674431Interesting I guess that makes sense
No fucking way! I don't care!
>>720680250no i just ran it on mednafan, why do fpgafags always feel the need to lie about everything?
>>720681118anon they're selling the hardware, false advertising doesn't exist if it's on this shitty site that doesn't bother deleting the threads
>>720668186Its not gate level accurate so I dont care.
>>720682595It needs to be 100% accurate to the wear and tear of my particular console or I don't care.
>>720680705In some ways it can be nice to know that any given game runs on an emulator without issue, but at the same time some of these issues are such small corner cases that you might be hardpressed to find a game that fails, or has slight bit of inaccuracy.And even when the inaccuracy happens? Oh, it might just be just one or two more (or fewer) lag frames in a certain situation.Basically the goal with 100% accurate emulation is more long term games preservation than it is something an average emulator user will ever notice or care.
>>720683245Fair. Especially so with the snes.
>>720669297Baroque
How easy is it to get it setup? I'm interested, but not interested enough to waste hours reading documentation.
>>720684787The mister pi turbo one is already pre-built with everything you need. I think the SD card is already flashed, but you just put mister fusion on SD card, drop your roms, and then get the update_all script.The update_all script is basically all you need, you just run it and it downloads all core updates, features, bios, MAME files, etc.It's like 5-10 minutes of active work at most to get everything set up.
