>Be Xbox>Completely fucking give upWhat happened?
>>720800551You can play all xbox games on Windows with an xbox controller.
>>720800551>get into business to stop Sony from "taking over the living room">find out in the future that people only want to live on their phonesThere's no reason for them to continue. They shit up the business for Sony... mission accomplished!
They are fucked, won't last another 10 years and that is me being charitable to them.Windows as on os is dying in terms of marketshare and innovation, all they can do now is cope and over surveil their user base and push ads. The future will be Sony vs Nintendo vs Valve when it comes to gaming consoles.
>>720800610You can play all playstation games on windows with a ps controllerYou could play all nintendo games on windows with a nintendo controller (and WILL be able to)
>>720801193For ps games and Nintendo you need emulators. Xbox games are on Microsoft store or xbox pass pc
>>720800551i just someone to buy up xbox brand from microsoft
Phil was an insurgence agent the whole time.
>>720800551how would you have fixed this era then?
>>720801376by having good exclusives
>>720801279I don't see the issue but you don't need emulators for ps games
>>720801376to be fair, it wasnt that bad. It was underpowered but they got their shit together in some form. Series were promising, but it seems like deliberate sabotage
>>720801456Now let's see Anon playing Bloodborne and Demon Souls on his PC.
>>720801376>Don't bet so much on the Kinect>Take Halo away from 343 after how much of a disaster 4 was>Don't try and turn your VIDEOGAME CONSOLE into a cable box you can scream instructions at
>>720801574Let's see anon play gears of wars 2 and 3 on your computer you dumb fuck
>>720801376make more kinect games
>>720801527>they got their shit together in some formthe only thing they really did was create Gamepass wich in turn completely killed gamesales on the platform
>>720801527It's still more powerful than the Switch 2.
I love the Xbox 360 so much. My favorite or 2nd favorite console. Tied with PS2. Such a shane how things ended up.
>>720801862>Xbox 360 gamesShould I list every PS3 game you can't play on your PC without emulation too?
>>720802003As opposed to demon's souls?Rare replay and halo 5
They got fucked in the Xbox One generation, honestly. I don't know if people here are too young to remember or didn't follow video games that closely, but the Xbox One was a laughing stock because of how retarded they were at the time. In 2013 they wanted people to: 1) always be online 2) give up on physical mediaPeople didn't have good internet and not everyone was nigger cattle willing to give up owning physical media, so they were laughed at by pretty much everyone. Not to mention it was more expensive than the PS4 because they wanted to bundle every Xbox One with a Kinect, which didn't help matters.Now, for the Series console i TRULY believe they fucked up by not keeping certain exclusives. Releasing everything everywhere is stupid if you're trying to push hardware, even more retarded when you consider that Microsoft bought a bunch of studios and did nothing with them. Even the backwards compatibility is kinda just ok on the Xbox One and Series X, it just gives you a license to download the game from their servers instead of running it from the disc.
>>720800551>Gaming console boom that they can latch onto, because American boomers see the Microsoft brand and cum investor money and corporate directives in their direction>Boom ends in the mid-2000s, game production eventually dwindles to nearly nothing worthwhile>Xbox stays in the market, because their restrictions imposed by their lowest common denominator status prevent anyone from succeeding unexpectedly>Market is now entirely con artistry and indie devs they don't control, so they can bow out knowing that no one will succeed after they are gone, which would have hurt investor confidence in the main brand>>720800610But why would you want to now that ports aren't shit and Xinput isn't shitting everything up?>>720801376I would have stopped making consoles 10 years ago, That era is fucked, because of 7th gen ruining everything and all of the misinvestment of 6th gen coming home to roost.>>720802407Caring about physical media as opposed to a lack of DRM and necessary corpo infrastructure is cargo cult behavior.The Xbone fucked up, because companies stopped producing games, it had the same problem that streaming services are having, which is that their primary business model was smoke and mirrors built on fake promises of future profit, so they needed to pivot.
>>720800551It's Microsoft's master strategy>make Games for Windows Live to compete with Steam>it flops>kills it, shits on their consumers, and fucks off to console>creates Xbox to compete with PlayStation>it flops>kills it, shits on their consumers, and fucks off to PC handhelds and PC living room boxesI'm pretty sure you know what's going to happen next.
Call me conspiracy theorist but I unironically think Xbox intentionally killing gaming industry with first introducing always online xbox one bundeled with kinect, then giving up all their exclusives and making their "ecosystem" cross-platform and all about subscription. Also making two xbox series one of which is "the most powerful console to date look at all those teraflops" and the other one is digital only, no disc drive. Laugh at them all you want, rightfully so as xbox sale numbers is half of playstation after 7th gen. But Sony still look at them and see that it is possible to do all that shit and don't go out of business. Every bad decision like making their console with no disc drive or giving up exclusives and prioritizing subscription service: Xbox did it first and Playstation follows.
xbox are the ones making the most money since they own every studio
>>720800551Xbox has given up.Playstation makes less than 1 game a year.Nintendo is, well just look at their last direct.We need Sega now more than ever.
>>720803517>Nintendo isSuccessful and getting all the games like Steam while making exclusives, can't wait for Valve to start making Steam exclusives. It's coming. Nintendo and Valve won by not giving a shit about Sony's and Microsoft's bullshit.
>>720803131They don't even give a shit about that, they only care about AI. They've been gutting the studios left and right for that and don't even plan to make any more hardware after the Xbox Series X|S.
>>720803679Making dogshit for manchildren is a success, but it hardly benefits the people looking for worthwhile games.
>>720803517The only way I see it happening if Sega plead microsoft to make their console BC with xbox one/series gen. No one is gonna join this fight without preexisting libraries
>>720800551PC took over during Covid, everyone left on console is literally just a poorfag that couldn't make the switch.
>>720801107>The future will be Nintendo vs Valve when it comes to gaming.PS6 will be the last Sony console, they're pushing for multiplatform as well, the PS6 is weak as shit, no one wants a PS6 handheld, still refuse BC with PSX, PS2, PS3, PSP, and PS Vita, PS handheld will cost more than the Switch 2 and possibly even the Steam Deck 2. Releasing too late as Nintendo will have full console handheld market dominance by late 2028. Microsoft completed their mission, they beat Sony during the 7th generation and changed Sony to make similar retarded decisions to them. Now Sony will feel the burn 10th generation.
>>720803746You'll have everything with a Switch 2/Steam Deck 2 combo, no reason to get anything else. Future is console = Nintendo, PC = Valve, and mobile.
>>720801376>don't double down on the "online only" shit (they were a few years of for that)>don't bundle it with a massive useless brick that has next to no support in any game>don't market it as a TV set/netflix machine that can also play games>have actual good exclusives>give halo to a studio that gives a damn or simply don't make halo whatever the fuck it is nowthese alone would have helped save it
>>720803982once valve releases steam os, there will no point in having windows installed onto any pc that will be used for gaming primarily.msoft will lose all gamer marketshare and a massive chunk of income.
Xbox's failure will be studied in college business classes alongside Sega on how not to run a video game console business. Be the console with the least amount of exclusives and what limited exclusive xbox had most of them were dog shit. Bought all those companies and couldn't organize them to produce anything half decent. PS5 had only like half the exclusive titles compared to previous gen PS4 and it still completely owns Xbox and Nintendo is a multi IP exclusive powerhouse every gen.
>>720804292Good
Daily snoygger meltdown thread.
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>>720800765>>loses the battle in the living room and the phonesWhat a time to be alive
>>720801376Better management. The hardware is good. Microsoft just doesn't have anyone who likes video games managing the company.
>give up >making way more money than anyone else (biggest console publisher in all of gaming) >basically control entire segments of the gaming market thanks to IP or service ownership >other platforms literally rely on xbox games to stay afloat (Source: SIE testimony in court) Xbox hasn't given up, they've only just started. Sony putting helldivers on xbox is a straight sign of giving up.
>>720805453>forza horizon on PS>Gears of Wars on PS>there were rumors of Halo MCC getting a PS portuh
>>720800551Xbox division was shitting the bed, and Microsoft just sort of realized>wait we're a multi-billion dollar corporation that literally owns the computer industry because apple are retarded and linux is beyond niche>we can literally put "xbox" on anything, and make more money from everybody than just our own little playground that isn't selling by itself
>>720805453They've given up, not even that biggest publisher shit is true, all leaks currently are stating that they don't care about Xbox and are gutting it for AI. They're not even planning to make the next console and are giving up completely on backwards compatibility. Phil Spencer is probably leaving next year.
>>720805626>there were rumors of Halo MCC getting a PS portno rumors about it other than wishful thinking from fanboys. MCC and infinite are built on shitty engines, it's too hard to port them. At best you will get Halo Ce remake they are making now
>>720805687>MCC and infinite are built on shitty engines, it's too hard to port them.You don't actually know how these things work, do you? Especially given all the systems basically share similar architectures to PC now and we have PC ports. It's a budget and effort matter, not a technical hurdle.
>>720800765>find out in the future that people only want to live on their phonesThat doesn't explain why Microsoft was so quick to give up on Windows Phone.
>>720805758nigga do you know how it took for them to port mcc to pc? They even even greenlighted halo 3 online originally instead of trying to do it. This is from developers that said changing challenges in halo infinite can break the game
>>720805663Not even that guy but how can you be this retarded especially when you lurk enthusiast forums. Literally everything you said is the opposite of the truth. They're going hard as fuck with next gen consoles by Co designing not one but 2+ dedicated xbox chips with AMD for multiple consoles next gen at different price points + handheld. And they haven't given up on backwards compatibility they explicitly said the next xbox's will support all previous xbox consoles as they do now. You're confusing the rumours of some windows shit they're doing with xbox. The windows gaming thing probably won't support xbox bc games because it's not an xbox. Same as the dumbass people who thought the xbox rog ally x was an xbox. It's not. Completely different.
The death of the console has a lot to do with generational demands as well. I would say most of console "consumers' are younger Gen Xs and Millennial who grew up with consoles. Zoomers are a mixed bag of growing up consoles and tablets/phones, while alphas are growing up with tablets/phones now. The shift will be to mobile and streaming services.Xbox already has their Cloud Game Pass app on newer smart TVs where you all have to do is connect a controller and sign up for an account. Sony will follow suit. My prediction is in the next 10 to 15 years there will be no more Play Station or Xbox in terms of physical devices. We'll see gaming as purely >Streaming services on Smart TVs like Game Pass>Mobile (phones/tablets)>PC Even Nintendo isn't immune from the generational shift. Alphas and younger zoomers don't give a shit about "Zelda" - that's the younger Gen X and Millennials from earlier that do. Once the nostalgia generations start dying off or quitting gaming, Nintendo won't be able to pull the other generations with their exclusives. Mobile/PC/Streaming. That is the landscape of gaming in the 15 years. Since you're all here forever, screen cap this and come back and apologia to me when I am proven right.
>meanwhile, xbox's advertising at the summer games fest>"literally anything that can run goypass is an xbox"there's no way they're not desperate. even if they're doing "well", it's not enough for the voracious appetites of their shareholders, so they're spreading out from hardware to software sales. grim.
>>720806079They're not making multiple chips, they're making one just ONE and that one chip is the console itself. They will not build a box around it, they paying others to build the box/portable around the chip themselves. This ONE chip is modular. They're going the 3DO route so both will cost a lot, more than the ROG Xbox Ally given it has 11 CPU cores. It won't have backwards compatibility and Phil Spencer is no longer in control. You're a retard, it's over completely for Xbox. This was leaked last year on a discord and now even credible Xbox insiders are saying it's happening. MLID called it a PC chip, barely even customized compared to Sony's chips. All credible rumors have pointed to Xbox being dead and has become a wrapper for Windows gaming devices. Get fucked Xbot, this starts next year.
>>720805626gears of war didn't even break into top 20 charts and now it's no longer breaking in to top 40. Meanwhile helldivers 2 remains top 5 played game on xbox. If I were xbox I would see no point in porting everything. Only sea of thieves and forza did decently, everything else flopped
>>720806390Nintendo has already solidified itself, with Switch 2, Hollywood, Museum, Amusement Park, toys for babies and kids. And they'll be doing more for kids in America and Japan with Japan being the testing grounds before they roll it out here. Sorry, but it's only Sony and Microsoft fucking off from console going multiplatform. Future of gaming is as followed Console (Nintendo), PC (Valve), Mobile (Apple and Google).
>>720806424kinds don't want consoles anymore. they want PCs so they can be "the next Pewdie Pie" or the latest iPhone so they can play while at school.
>>720800551xbox never was a real console. it was microshite's attempt to undermine the jap market
Consoles are literally dying in front of our eyes in marketshare to PC and mobile and you think a company as big as MS who have insane reach will put tons of resources into a hardware segment that is dying industry wide. They'll have "consoles" but the software is the name of the game now. Sony putting first party IP on Nintendo and xbox is proof enough of how consoles are dying. I bought a PS4 for its exclusives and my spiderman box says "only on playstation" at the top. Fast forward to now and despite muh sales Sony still can't afford to keep their games only on playstation anymore. Microsoft are just ahead of the game as usual and Sony are following in their footsteps.
>>720806757>undermind the jap and pc marketFixed
>>720806631>Hollywood, Museum, Amusement Park, toys for babies and kids. that shit is literally irrelevant, sony did and does that too, and everyone ignore it
>>720806845Sony has a mountain of debt like Microsoft and no good IPs any child is interested in. Nintendo is Japanese Disney. At least Microsoft has the Master Chief, Sony doesn't have anything.
>>720806927>At least Microsoft has the Master Chief,kids don't give a fuck about Master Chief, they don't even know who he is
>>720807032Bullshit, there were so many little kids wearing Master Chief costumes on Halloween last year it was crazy. Master Chief toys also always sell out when they're sold.
>>720800551modern xboxes are back compat machines in their best use cases, but the wider gaming audience doesn't particularly care about being able to play old games. I basically keep a one x lying around for ninja gaiden black/2 and a handful of other og xbox and early 360 exclusives
>>720806636Yeah my cousin who is like 13 years old recently turned up at my house with a rog ally he bought using money from selling his switch. It kinda blew my mind that a kid will 1. Want a handheld over a console and 2. Be happy using a PC handheld over a switch. Times are changing. Makes sense why so many companies are investing heavily into handhelds now. The market potential is huge.
>>720806927>>720807032>xbox has master chiefwe haven't had a good halo game in 2 (soon to be 3) console generations. chief is as irrelevant as that chick from gears of war.
>>720807095Oh yeah, I'm sure little Johnny just decided on his own to dress up like a video game character that hasn't been relevant since a decade before he was born.It could NEVER have been his millennial dad coaxing or making him do it. Nope, never.
>>720807142Master Chief is the only reason Microsoft hasn't pulled the plug on Halo yet.
>>720807265>>720807282
>>720807330Knowing Fortnite Master Chief is not the same as knowing Halo Master Chief.Keep fighting for and defending a dead IP, faggot. You're almost as bad as those Ninpedos defending a 20 year old Zelda game no one but them cares about.
>>720807032halo appeared in minecraft, among us, rainbow six. Fortnite had two collabs with halo, usually they stop at one, this is an achievement in itself
>>720804292You could just install bazzite and get rid of windows right now.
>>720807464>>720807449
>>720800551>What happened?A massive amount of bad decisions for over a decade that cemented their loss, simple as that.The two biggest mistakes they made was to simulrelease their games on windows and gamepass, these two things alone most probably made xbox irrelevant in the grand scheme, since xbox users won't buy games that aren't on gamepass and people who have a pc won't buy an xbox since the games are already there.
>>720804292gamers are dumb as shit and are also NPC consoomers. No way they'd be smart enough to install a complete operating system.
>>720801107>Windows as on os is dying in terms of marketshareHow delusional are you?
>>720807474>BazziteAt least recommend a handful of other distros like Mint or Arch, instead of the gamer meme distros.
>>720804653all shit lmao
>>720807734No let's not. Let the plebs and retards stay in windows. We don't need Linux going mainstream and taken over by corporations to make profits.
Could microsoft release an update that would disallow you to launch steam?
I can tell you in advantage that this time in 10 years playstation won't exist. Xbox will.
>>720800551That retard phil spensor
>>720802089>As opposed to demon's souls?Yes.
>>720807978They 'could' but the ensuing legal butchering would put a stop to that.
>>720807871It's basically already too late. With most of the web being something that you need to interact with via increasingly overbuilt web browsers owned by 1 1/2 companies, they already have a steady foothold in Linux that can't be excised even without an influx of normies and the baseline existence of corpos that need something that just werks and can be locked down as much as they want.
>>720808330>From ShitLol no
>>720808384what if the next xbox would be just windows but without ability to launch steam, that would not concern preexisting windows users
>>720805829Retarded shortsighted executives is why.
>>720800551Peter Moore left and none of his successors had his drive and hunger.
>>720801376Remove the kinect, release two SKUs, one with a 250 GB HDD for 349 and the other with the ordinary 500 GB HDD for 399. Make Halo 4 a launch title. Put a mouth gag on Don Mattrick
>>720800551>Joined in during the era of "gamers are too cool to play mascot games", no one knows it would pay off 20 years later when graphicfagging hits the wall.
>>720807734The guy wanted SteamOS so I told him to use the rough equivalent.
>>720802713>Caring about physical media as opposed to a lack of DRM and necessary corpo infrastructure is cargo cult behavior.I'm playing a Sega Saturn right now, i paused the game just to type this. The console is 31 years old now. Do you think you will still be able to play the games you bought on the Xbox One when it turns 31? That's the issue, bubba.Of course, the best games will get re-releases and remakes, but in a library with over 1000 games like the Saturn, how many can you expect to be ported over to something else?Fuck, nigga, Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey are still stuck on the 360, they run on Xbox One and Series through emulation.
>>720800551as bad as cuckbox is, sony still bought bungie and considered it the grandmother and grandpappa of all wins.
>>720810024>That's the issue, bubba.The console is also corporate infrastructure and DRM that can't just be neatly replaced with your own generic variant.I wasn't arguing for the Xbone, so much as I was arguing against the obsession with the games not being on physical discs, rather than the more important concern of the platform owner being malicious, incompetent and ultimately ephemeral.
>>720800551we want to remove barriers not create more of them Dave>>720801376bundling Kinect was the right call, the mistake was the waggler gimmick was already dead at this point and adding $100 to your console price didn't help. Giving up on exclusivity was stupid as fuck. It's great that they pushed PC, but that barely benefitted them.
>>720811052Bundling the Kinect was 100 the wrong call. They wanted to standardized having that shit to allow developers to make games with that shit in mind, but no one cares. I played the Kinect back in 2009 or 2010 at a game convention and it fucking sucks.
>>720811354but milo...
>>720800610Whens Crackdown 1 on PC
>>720812114They can't.The largest portion of the gaming industry are NPC consumers who don't care about gaming as a hobby. So, what will happen is, the NPCs will just stop buying games. The actual hobbyists will move on to different online platforms that won't be affected.
>>720807686He may be retarded but he's not wrong. Windows 11 is a bomb, w12 won't be any better, and there's a surprising number of people (aka gamers) who would rather switch to linux when w10 dies.
>>720800551Ask him.
>>720813102Can you install SteamOS on a regular computer? Has Valve released it officially? Because somehow they managed to make it far better for gaming than Windows, i'd switch in a second despite being a hassle installing Windows shit on it.
>>720813589It hasn't been released yet and if you have no experience with Linux I would wait for an official release.
>>720800551Unironically they did the right thing in giving up.Consoles nowadays are a dead market unless you're called Nintendo and have a fanbase religiously dedicated to you, anyone else who try to persist in this market is destined to fail. Watch as in the next gen Playstation is gonna be even more pathetic than it currently is while xbox will just be a multiplatform storefront brand for people to play on their PCs, Laptops, Smart TVs, Portable PCs and whatnot, I mean... it is pathetic of course, but less so than whatever the PS6 is gonna end up being.
>>720800551Microsoft doesn’t want a video game console and have been actively sabotaging the Xbox brand of consoles since at least Windows Live Games
>>720805287This is the true answer
>>720805453None of those things succeeded because they had a video game console. If anything the hardware itself was a detriment to them.
>>720808427Filtered retard
>>720815180console pricing is a huge issue, like, I remember way back then, my grandma casually gifted BOTH me and my cousin ps2s in a xmas family reunion, many friends from school also got their consoles in a similar fashionthis shit rarely happens now with the absurd prices no granny's gonna gift her grandson a 600-700$+ console especially when little Timmy is already fully distracted and happy playing cod mobile on his phone
>>720807734it's funny, because it's true. Except that Arch, Gentoo and Debian are also obscure niche distros
>>720800551Microsoft is the world’s wealthiest company. Its primary goal is to make share price go up each quarter. If Xbox cannot make share price go up, it gets cut. Same with everything else. You know what shareholders like? AI. So the CEO is diverting everything to focus the company on its AI farms in Bangalore and Mumbai. Xbox is unnecessary in the New Economy.
>>720807871>trying to gatekeep his trannysafespacekek
>>720804653now here's all the games you couldn't play on an xbox 360 or pc within 12 months after release
>>720821736crackdown 3 was also on pc day one but i can't blame for not knowing or forgetting that
>>720800551>Microsoft still has the publishing rights to snoopy flying aceWill that game ever fucking leave xbox exclusivity?
>>720800551I wish Microsoft would stop making useless consoles and just focus on making controllers with TMR sticks so I don't have to buy third party garbage.
>>720801574Why would i want to play rollslop? The only playstation game that i would play is GT 7.
>>720822552Gran Turismo is one of those series that supposedly everyone plays and yet I have never met anyone that actually has. I assume it's a European thing.
>What happened?THEY BROUGHT MORE THAN JUST HYPE, THEY BROUGHT GAMES (or so they claimed for ten years)
>>720807616>draw thick, plump, curvy ass and tiddies>also slap a manface on itI will never understand
>>720800551whoever subverted microsoft and sony into porting their exclusive is a herohome consoles are finally dead and it's a good thing
>>720800551turns out that trying to turn games from a hobby into a service based product that needs a constant flow of content doesn't actually work.
>>720809231>Remove the kinectKinect was a fun peripheral, they should keep making games for it, but don't force people to buy it with every console.
>>720823219I mean, it "works" if you have enough fuck you money to pump into it.
>>720823117>we must be better consoles...
>>720800551>>720801107h1b indian ceo (really that's all you need to say)also the split into an upper and lower console the same gen was retarded because it confused consumers and devs had to make games for the lower console.Plus there just probably isn't as much money in the hardware space because valve exists and PC ports aren't ass anymore
>>720803517You like PSO? Sega currently runs PSO2.That's what current Sega is capable of making. That's who you're asking to beat the competition.
>>720823301DOOM TDA is a depressing view of the future of MS games. its not a game as much as it is a product to fill a space to keep people subscribed to a service. i know the term gets thrown around a lot but it truly was a souless corporate product
>>720805687>halo engine is too le complicated you can't port it to anything>meanwhile on every current console
>>720802713360 era and to a lesser extent og xbox era were great because PS3 had fucking retarded architecture that made Gay Ben seethe and was only fixed near the end of the device's lifespan with new dev tools. that's why the ps3 had no games. a lot of people weren't using steam at the time and pc ports were often shit so xbox was the default higher powered gaming device (wii sucked) and gave you better access to indie games via the online store
>>720801376>remove kinect>match PS4 GPU>match PS4 price>don't try the online DRM shit just yet>have back compat ready at launch>smart delivery to maximize retention of 360 fanbase
>>720803003if it's actually powerful enough to play games a digital only no disk drive box would be fine, provided it was cost competitive with a pc of similar specs and had a steam level store on it and you could run >popular streaming app
>>720800551Outsourcing to incompetent jeets/fags/women + AI
>>720803679valve won because it's just a store front and everyone refuses to use any other storefronts.
>>720807474idk what that is and it isn't called steam. windows just works and steam just works
>>720804653>the only one of those games I played is titanfall (and mincraft but my account is from back when you had to send notch a paypal payment)
>>720805829h1b indian ceo