Prove you're not a zoomer by naming 3 games harder than Silksong
>>721074346Your mom x3
The game of life (I'm gonna lose it anyway)
I just started Sekiro and have had more frustration with it in 2 days than with the entirety of Silksong.
>>721074573>>721074401Kys brown redditards
>>721074761>I can't play a basic rhythm game
Literally any platformer on the nes. Anything from mega Man to Contra
>>721074346contrabattletoadsjackie-chan
>>721074857Mega Man games aren't hard
>>721074857Neither of those are harder or even close zooms
>>721074346ChessGoPoker
>>721074346why do zoomers hate hard games? it's the only way you can get really involved with gameplay and engrossed with what's happeningthe only worth in video games is cognitive challenge
>>721074346Ninja GaidenSilver Surfer Battle Toad
ContraNinja GaidenCheetahmen
>>721074346alien soldierninja gaidenlife of black tiger
>>721074983Silver Surfer is pisseasy. Ninja Gaiden is tricky but no where near as hard as Silksong
>>721074346castelvania 1catslevania 2castlevania 3
megaman zerohard corps uprisingspace harriersilksong is pretty easy though. literally easier than rabi ribi it's literally easier than cave story desudesu
>>721074346MushihimesamaF-Zero GXWizardry 4
>>721075034zazed
>>721074849I played through all of sekiro and still can't figure out what the fuck you're supposed to do with the bull so I always kill him by bruteforcing
>>721074346The Super Star Wars games.
>Silksong harder than NES Ninja GaidenOh, it's a bait thread
>>721074346I just watched this and I think he misses the most important thing about “constant difficulty”, and doesn’t discuss it at all. Game with variable difficulty settings can be cleared by everyone, but that means they can be cleared alone. Games with uniform difficulty inspire conversation. Every player has the same experience of challenge, so they have a meaningful reason to compare notes. It builds a community out of the fanbase. He provides Tunic as an example, where his wife loved the game but had to turn on combat assist mode; people talk about the puzzles and lore in Tunic. Nobody talks about the combat. The combat is skippable so if you’re stuck you can skip it.DeS and DaS figured this out. Their difficulty was important because it built a community out of discussing solutions to a shared problem. That’s not something you can just brush past when discussing difficulty in games.
>>721074937durf fortress dev says they are
>>721074857bullshitgames weren't as hard back thennow games are either VERY DIFFICULT or DOWN SYNDROME PISSEASY
>>721074919>>721074937I didn't say they were the hardest ever. They're harder than Silksong, which is easy. If you really want a hard game, how about you try your own life.
>>721074346dark soulsdark souls 2dark souls 3
>>721075281>games weren't as hard back thenoh my sweet zoom zoom
>>721074346I Wanna Be the GuyBattletoadsBack to the Future parts 2&3 for the NES
>>721075207DeS wasn't even a hard game. it built a community out of the abstract storytelling and esoteric mechanics, the only hard games miyazaki directed before dark souls were last raven and for answer's hard mode
>>721074346Uh, umDark SoulsBattletoadsJackie Cha- FUCK
>>721074346jackie chan stuntmaster
>>721075056>megaman zeroOnly if you start with a zero elf run >hard corps uprisingOnly for arcade no death>space harrierOnly for no death>silksong is pretty easy though.Definitely not>it's literally easier than cave story desudesuAbsolutely not, not even close, even for hell run. Only for hard mode that has only 3HP but that's a shitty meme mode added by Nicalis that was never in the original
Half LifeDariusburst Chronicle SavioursScarlet Nexus (on Hard or Very Hard difficulty)
Hard games are just training for life. The point is to understand living is a constant state of warfare and the universe will fuck you in the ass for ever thinking otherwise.It's also why video games are explicitly a male hobby. Having a vagina is easy mode.
>>721075406>half life
>>721074346spyro the dragonwings of vicastlevania
>>721074346Teenage Mutant Ninja TurtlesSilver SurferJackie Chan
>>721075290You can go from first time to deathless run in both of those in less time than it even takes to beat Act 1 in Silksong
>>721075472The assassins are pretty difficult
>>721075487Most Castlevania games are easy dumbass
>>721075405The last stage in Cave Story is harder than anything in Silksong.And Silksong doesn't even do anything interesting with its difficulty. Bunny Must Die at least penalizes you for dying with time taken off your speedrun clears which is a genius way to do death in Metroidvanias and always ask for no death clears.
>>721075532the ones after nes are very easy
>>721074913>jackie-chanAction Kung Fu, Fists of Fire or Stuntmaster?
NiohNioh2Battletoads
>>721075536The last stage being hell? That's optional, and even still, it takes like 30 mins to an hour, which is less than many single bosses in Silksong. >>721075195NG has unlimited continues, is very short, and is largely easy outside of the final level and specifically the final boss. And even the final boss is easily beat with spin magic. NG's difficulty is massively overstated. The 3D games on MNM are way harder
>>721075030>Silver Surfer is pisseasyZoooom zoooom zooooooooooooooom
>>721074346Dark Souls IDark Souls IIDark Souls III
>>721075853It's one of the easiest shmups out there, even by console standards, which are pisseasy compared to arcade. It took a single day to beat it deathless from blind
>>721074346Ghosts n goblins Ninja gaidenJackie ChanFUCK
>>721075532when I say castlevania, I mean the game called castlevania on the nes, retard
>>721075532The first Castlevania is called "Castlevania". Not Castlevania I, just Castlevania. It's the name of the game
>>721075803>NG has unlimited continuesSo does silksong, the difference is run backs in ninja gaiden are both longer and MUCH harder
>>721075231Well they require different skills. A friend of mine has 100%'d every Dark Souls game but is terrible at platformers. She finds Silksong to be quite the challenge. I haven't played it but I've played a gazillion platformers since I was a kid, so I'm pretty used to them.
>>721076042ghosts n goblins is brutal
>>721075895NTA but you never played it?
>>721074346Rayman 1The Legend of ValkyrieMetal Slug
Far Cry 2 infamous modeCrackdown Insane mode (single player)Manhunt Fetish mode
>>721076203I played it with a savestate at the start of every stage and I still have up on the stage after I think it was a ship? I don't know how Arino does it bros...
Metroid Prime 2Trauma Center: Second OpinionCatherine
>>721074346Sonic 3, megaman x, need for speed carbon. maybe dark souls or sekiro could cut in as a replacement for carbon
>>721075487>spyro the dragonlolI'm bad at vidya and I 100% it.
>>721075054lol no
>>721076261>ModeIf the game isn't difficult on its default mode it doesn't count
>>721076395Dark souls is an easy game and I'm not even trolling Anyone that beat elden ring, sekiro or das3 can beat dark souls in like 40h with less than ten deaths overall if they even remotely tried
Elder RingSuper Meat BoySuper Meat Boy 2
>>721076448Darn I thought I was genuinely contributing. :(
kof 94.kof 95.Contra NES.Metal slug if you try to do 1CC.
>>721076448pussy takegames are made to be played on the hardest difficulty. far cry 2 on infamous is fucking incredible desu
>>721074346IWBTGRogue LegacyDDR
>>721076174Having limited lives dissuades most people, you spend your lives taking 1 boss but go back to the beginning. smb you have a warp in 1 and can continue thats ez
>>721074346For you?>not ritualposting>not sucking cock >affording games
>>721076174Dark Souls games aren't hard. They're explicitly made to be accessible through slow combat.
>>721076407it'd overwhelm the zoomer into fear and submission with liminal spaces, and the flight challenges
>>721074346Subterranean AnimismDoDonPachiBeatmania
>>721074346Dark souls 3 was harder for me because bosses are cheating twats and everything except dmg stats is cosmetic in this gameRayman 1Rabi-ribi on actual hardest difficulty
>>721074346I can't believe we've reached a point in where a game that has the "insolence" to retry a level or a boss a few times, spending maybe a day or two in very particular cases, is now scandal worthy
>>721075115get away from him, he'll charge you, he'll lower head and do a horn[y] attack. deflect lets you get 2 predictable safe attacks to his head (takes extra dmg/posture there), rinse repeat
>>721077483If the levels weren't annoying to traverse no one would be complaining. It's irritating by design, and has the effect of snowballing frustration the more times you die which is discouraging.
>>721074346Banjo KazooieMeet N' Fuck Kingdom, SteveJackie Chan
>>721074346Ghosts and goblinsDonkey Kong Country tropical FreezeNEBULOUS: Fleet CommandI am a zoomer though, yet earlier today I saw a thread of a man born in 96 just like I am insisting he's millennial, both wrong for thinking he was one and wrong for wanting to be one
>>721074849Not him but the parts I had the most trouble with were mostly the parts that debated from just being about swinging and countering
>>721077704They aren't outside of one area that's purposefully designed to be like that.
>>721077483The issue with Silksong is the awful map design, slow movement speed and walkbacks to bosses. I get the last thing is done to actually give weight to death and that's fair enough (the game gets stupidly easy once you learn how to parry), but the map and movement speed are unjustifiable desu
>>721076532Well I meant dark souls like the whole family with elden ring and such but excluding sekiro that's somewhat different. But yeah carbon is harder than either so that was my 3rd pick instead
>>721078037there's plenty areas that are annoying to traverse. Apart from bilewater there are numerous instances of the devs placing a flying projectile throwing enemy in the middle of a platforming section just to fuck with you. It isn't significantly hard to deal with it just takes a ton of time and is annoying as shit when all you want to do is just fly through the screen to the next one.
>>721074346Hotline Miami 29 SolsNinja Gaiden
>>721078305>Nine Solslol
>>721074346SekiroSpelunky (HD/2)Celeste
>>721074913>>721074983>>721075347>>721075378>>721075793I think Battletoads will always be the hardest simply because every level has a completely different playstyle and new mechanics. You basically have to master 12 different games to actually beat it. Most people get filtered by the Turbo Tunnel but some of the later levels like Terra Tubes and Rat Race are way harder.
>>721074346I am geniunly baffled what's peoples malfunction with this very standard Metroidvania is.t.Shitter that thought games like Doom TDA was hard.
>>721078450rat race killed my deathless run. thanks battletoads
>>721074919Even the easiest Mega Man game is harder than Silksong. You're not going to gaslight us faggot.
>>721078450It's just like a W101 pure platinum run but without the luxury of endless retries.
>>721078405Harder than Silksong at least.
>>721074346ultima, ultima and ultima
>>721074346Someone could just name 3 random shmups or other arcade games. Pointless thread.
>>721074919Harder then Silksong retard.
>>721074346>SpaceChem>Baba is You>The WitnessThis makes it sound like I'm calling myself dumb, but only games that require intelligence are actually hard.
>>721074346Metroid 1Ghosts 'n GoblinsComix Zone
>>721078673To put it another way, after 10,000 hours, practically anyone could beat practically any reaction-based game. But not anyone could beat SpaceChem.
>>721074346If runback is all people are sperging about then any 8 bit or 16 bit game is harder.
>>721078570Mega Man 2 is so piss easy (especially because of the easy difficulty for westerners) anyone can beat it in one sitting and that's precisely why it's the favorite of casuals.
>>721078741This isn't really true. You can brute force a lot of puzzle games until you come across the solution through simple elimination. It still requires some ingenuity from your part but it's not that different from retrying mechanical challenges until you get it right.
>>721074346DodonpachiLa-mulanaUltrakill
>>721078853If you can beat MM2 without dying you can easily do the same in Silksong while also getting the speedrun achievement
>>721074346Elmos letter adventureElmos number journeyHungry Pumpkin
>>721074346Shining in the DarknessPhantasy Star 2Phantasy Star 3
>>721078826The sad part is runbacks aren't even that bad. Almost all enemies are avoidable and several have secret entrances/exits.
>>721074761suckiro is not a good game, despite what the weebs here claim
>>721074346
>>721074761Stick with it. It gets really good once you get to Genichiro
>>721074346Max Payne 3God of War: AscensionArmored Core: Last Raven
>>721074401OP's mom is the easiest game in town
>>721079940This anon is lying, it never gets good.
>>721079775>the theoof
>>721079687Having shit taste is ok.
>>721080181skill issue
>>721079775NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>721079775I dont get it
>>721080334Then why do I like "the hardest game ever conceived" Silksong :)
>>721074346>Prove you're not a zoomer by being a zoomer
>>721074346IWBTGContraSilver Surfer
>>721074346Rabi-ribiPre nerf SouldiersLa MulanaSS isn't even remotely the hardest game in the genre
>>721074346mario mario 2mario 3
>>721074761Sekiro had a really rough start for me because it feels like that there is a delay in the button presses, i think it is one of those games that the action only happens after you release the button not when you press it. But once you get it used to it then it gets fun.
>>721074857Castlevania 1 and 3, sure. Megaman? Fuck off, no it's not.
>>721074346idk i never played silksong and i never will
>>721074346Super Ghouls and GhostsThe ImmortalTeenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (NES)
>>721074849>rhythm gamePeople who say this are retarded and don't knoe what rhythm actually is.
>>721074346Blade of Darkness
Ninja Gaiden BlackNinja Gaiden 2Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge
>>721074346Underrail on DominatingNlc 7Ninja gaiden 2 on master ninjaNinja gaiden 3 Razor's Edge on ultimate ninja Dmc 3 dmd
>>721082160That platforming bit near the start of Wily stage is harder than anything in any game released in the past 25 years.
>>721074346Super Star Wars
>>721074849Good job repeating a redditism you read. Try and original thought next.
>>721074952chess is peak zoomer culture
>>721074346Resonance of FateResident Evil Code VeronicaNinja Gaiden
>>721074346DoDonPachiDoDonPachi DaiOuJouDoDonPachi Daifukkatsu
>>721074346hollow kinghtsilksong 1that metroidvania bug game I forgor the name of
>>721082685Chess is boomer culture. Too much thinking is required for zoomies to get into it.
>>721076245No I cleared it deathless retard, I just said that
>>721074346never played silksojng and never will
>>721074346Alundra, Heart of Darkness, Jak 2. >>721075056Sweet Jesus don't get me started on this one. Anyway, Silk and Song's problem isn't difficulty. It's a slog to playthrough just like with Sekiro. By the time you advance or repeat the areas where you fuck up there isn't much incentive to replay or experience more of it because the experience has gone from joy to exasperation and perspiration. And, if it's work I need doing I can find it in much more enjoyable and productive endeavors.
>>721076167Silksong is way harder and has one life, NG has multiple lives, is linear, way shorter, OP magic.Most people play a couple hours max of NG and call it hard,
>>721082829do you live under a rock?>https://metapress.com/the-rise-of-chess-streamers-why-gen-z-cant-stop-watching-the-sicilian-defense/>https://inytimes.pressreader.com/article/281487870660863>https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/top-gen-z-players-are-stronger-than-top-millennial-players-were-at-the-same-age
>>721074346I can't, because I didn't play silksong so I have no reference point.
There should be a site similar to how long to beat called how hard is this game where players would rate the difficulty of a game out of ten to give potential buyers an idea of where they're about to step in.
>>721078052>slow movement speedAre you still playing hollow knight?
DODODODODODODODODODODONPACHI!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>721076042>FUCKWhich game is that?
>all these sekiro hatersdamn, i didn't know so many people actually had shit taste
>>721082996Next these journalists are gonna say zoomers like Akira Kurosawa movies and 1930s jazz.
>>721081105it's a reference to THE GAME, an old 4chan meme from around 2016. basically, the rules are: anytime you read THE GAME, it means you lose! heheh.. mad yet?
>>721082996It's a game that existed since forever, saying it has a generation is retarded >_>
>>721083505nioh 2 does it better
The entire Adventure Island seriesThe original Ninja Gaiden series, plus the first two 3D onesLegend of the Mystical NinjaBattletoadsFirst run of Devil May CryDonkey Kong Country 2SMB The Lost LevelsGhosts & GoblinsMaximoGBC Mario TennisTHPS4Prince of PersiaF-Zero GXTalking to girlsFinding meaningful employmentFiguring out what makes you happy
SekiroNinja GaidenGhost & Goblins, any version >what's the point of hard games?I don't wanna play on baby mode
>>721074346Umihara KawaseUmihara Kawase ShunSayonara Umihara Kawase
>>721074346How about IN THE SAME GENRE? My take:>Grime>Nine Sols>Wings of Vi
>>721074346karate kidsilver surferbattletoads
>>721074346Mega Man and BassSuper Ghouls 'n GhostsLa Mulana
>>721078052I thought sprinting would ease the tedium but devs just made the map proportionally bigger -_-
>>721085027>>721085118Two posers
>>721084394lmao
>>721074849If sekiro is a rhythm game, dark souls and ER are taiko.
>>721082581Reddit retards are the ones praising such a shallow game.
>>721074346Pokemon RedDragon Ball Z BudokaiChess
Tower of DruagaSuper Monkey BallLion King
>>721084758Grime is a joke. Nine Sols isn't hard either.
>>721074346YsSekiroWinnie The Pooh: Home Run Derby
>>721074346TowerclimbLa-MulanaBunny Must DieAurora 4x
>>721075536>>721088065Samefag tranny
>>721075803Bloodstained sanctuary hard mode + Ballos fight is harder than anything on HK or Silksong. Not even P5 compares.
>>721088250No shit retard, hard mode is a tranny meme mode added by nicalis that was never in the original.If I added a mode where you die in one hit instead of 20, almost any game becomes hard, fucking retard.
>>721081340Silksong is easy if you aren't retarded
>>721088526No, it's harder than 99% of games, even most of the hardest retro games
>>721074346ff7 rebirthalundraelden ring
>>721074953Because they're the ultimate consoomers.They don't even play games themselves, but rather pay people to play them instead through streamer donations.
Cuphead was pretty popular a few years ago and was way harder, why is the internet pretending Silksong is the hardest game ever?
>>721088702Cuphead was easier for normal mode not caring about rankings. Expert S-ranks is way harder but most people don't go for those
Battletoads(NES)Battletoads in BattlemaniacBattletoads(Arcade)
>>721088793I died way more times to the average Cuphead boss than the average Silksong boss, and it forced you to really learn the boss while in Silksong a good enough attempt + spamming tools usually nets you the win.
>>721088702No tedium in Cuphead you can just retry instantly, it doesn't make it easier but it feels easier
>>721088952Cuphead was literally only bosses wjth no runbacks. No shit
I'm playing these and they're pretty annoying
>>721089243Ezpz
>>721074346Megaman Megaman 2Megaman 3I can go on if you like
>>721074346Literally any NES platformer.Even easy stuff like Super Mario Bros 1 are harder than silksong>limited lives>no checkpoints close to bosses>you die in 1 hit
Youtube "essayist" shilling thread, leeching on Silksong.NOT VIDYA
so gays, how is the new 2d ng game?is it at the very least fun?
>>721075281Silksong has unlimited lives, checkpoints close to bosses and you have ability to heal. It's like playing NES games with cheats on or with save states.
>>721089693there is no war in Ba Sing Se
>silksong>hardI don't have a meme of Eminem throwing a poison cogfly so you'll just have to pretend I posted it here
>>721088581nah, those are still harder
>>721074849I actually can't. I suck really bad at real rhythm games
