what is the greatest case of wasted potential in videogame history?
nep games
I completely forgot that Dragon's Dogma 2 even came out. Yikes.
>>721115764DD2 proved that DD2's potential only existed inside the head of the players of the first one. The director should've been the guy who made the DLC, not the base game.
Itsuno won't miss 3 times in a rowTrust the vision
>>721115891what about DDO?I don't think anyone expected that, instead of making an improved and extended version of the first game like everyone wanted, they'd make the exact same game again but somehow even more incomplete
>>721115891Motherfucker, we could have gone to the moon
>>721115840>Increases sex drive and IQ simultaneously Ah yes. The incels drug of choice
>>721115764The diamonds are Itsuno true vision. Two more weeks.
>>721115764Gravity Rush
>>721115840>Mom, may I take the Intellifuck pill?
>>721115764Dragon's Dogma had no potential because it was fundamentally flawed, created by hack and slash combosloppers that didn't understand that limiting player and enforcing well tuned limitations and committment is the key to making good combat.It also didn't understand RPG mechanics which is why those parts like scaling, loot progression and "character building" were also garbage
>>721115909it wasn't in a row, DMC5 happenedhell, it feels like every game he's made (barring DMC2 but he was barely even involved, and then he went on to make DMC3 as sort of a redemption arc for the series) has been a fully realized product EXCEPT dragon's dogma
>>721116036Yep... I hope they just forget about the failed experiment with 2 and go back to 1 and do an FF7R style remaster. PS6, much bigger and detailed worlds, and all that extra sugar.
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>>721116062>parts like scaling, loot progression and "character building" were also garbagefor me its teh flat damage defense system. it feels like it completely ruins the game every time i try to play itIf i dont spend forever against the early mobs i get completely utterly bored against, BBI shit takes no damage to most of my attacks. If i gear up then everything dies way too fast and its boring
>>721116062I won't deny that warrior is fundamentally a fucked class, but this webm is massively cherrypicked and only showcases the last 10% of a genuinely good fightyou could have at least posted daimon 2 which is actually kinda shit
>>721115840>tiger gets high IQ>proceeds to fuck rhino instead of other tigergenuinely what did they mean by this
DMC4. The combat is fun and it looks great, but it's half finished and some of the bosses and puzzles are dreadful.
>>721116113>the 9999th sequel in a franchise with 9 billion people working on ityou actually need to be stupid to think this is the particular merit of a director desuLike you could probably entirely remove itsuno from dmc5 and its general gamefeel would have ended up exactly the same
>>721116307>teh flat damage defense systemthis is actually a mythgear progression in DD is certainly not the best in an RPG but it's actually not just damage - defense
>>721116312The webm shows part of a grander problemSomehow this supposed team of expert game designers that made hack and slash comboslop never had the realization that making jump attacks that cost no stamina, can get buffed and have near 0 endlag is a good idea.You can apply this to everything. Why can Yellow vocations run and gun the game?
>>721115764It's not an RPG per se, but Crimson Desert should offer a little something for DD2 players that felt let down. It's not the same game so don't get your hopes all the way up or anything, but it at least seems decent, better for what it is than what DD2 was for its genre.
>>721116379then why didn't they?people like kamiya, itsuno, shinji mikami and kojima have undoubtedly overly romanticized the role and influence of a director on a videogame, which was the style at the time since having a "rockstar director" was considered a marketing boon (kind of like how people go to see movies just because a certain director or writer is involved, like tarantino or martin scorsese) in the ps2/ps3 dayshowever, they STILL are the ones with final say on everything that gets included in the game itself, they're essentially filters to unify the work of the development team under one cohesive vision, which is why every game that these people make all have certain qualities that identify the games as works of that particular directorin the case of itsuno, he was the only proponent for keeping the DMC brand alive at capcom's corporate level after 2, and you saw what happened when he stopped getting involved
>>721115909ThisTRUST. THE. PLAN.
>>721116373It really could have used an all Nero and all Dante mode. I can't believe there's no way to just play the campaign with one of them all the way through. Giant mistake in general, Dante's part is even shorter even though he still gets a fuckload of weapons so they keep throwing them at you before you can even get used to the last one.
>>721116019no you idiot, Itsuno WANTED to die in a ditch, you just don't get it
Look up Skill MakerThat is all.
>>721116365Your IQ is too low to understand it.
>>721116417>The calculations used to obtain damage have been discovered with a good degree of reliability from testing. The formulas used are explained below.>DamagePhys=(AttackPowerPhysical-Defense) * BS * AM * CB * FM * Otherhttps://dragonsdogma.fandom.com/wiki/Damage_Calculation
>>721115840>no bone roti wasn't worried about bone rot until it said that.
>>721115764DD2 has less replayability than even base Dragons Dogma. At least that had Ur-dragon which acted as an end game mmo raid boss.Capcom went through all the time and effort to flush out the classes sure but there is nothing to really push you back in the end game.
>>721115764i like to think Valkyria Chronicles couldve been a much bigger franchisebut after VC4 didnt sell that much, whats my excuse?
>>721115764>hype for dd2>revealed it has denuvolost all interest I had for it in spite of waiting over a decade for itwhy do they do it?
>>721119725To save you from playing a shitty game, anon.
>>721115764Still having a blast.
>>721116062but i like it for those reasons specifically?
>>721115764Monster Hunter Stories and Studio Japan.
>>721115764Guild wars 2
>>721115764I think you nailed it, fuck you for reminding me
>>721115891Truth nuke
>>721121363Stories 3 looks better with every reveal what are you on about
>we will never enter the world tower
>>721121634It's the only with potential of "pokemon killer" yet capcom doesn't go all out with it
>>721121647we will never fly into free again, my friend
>>721115764literally every midway games IP thats left to rot under WB or whoever the fuck owns their shit now
>>721116312That's nowhere even close to the worst class, the magic knight which summons a magic drum that shoots out 50000 homing magic missiles whenever it's hit is worse, you can solo the ur dragon raid boss in five seconds with it
>>721115840>tfw my dad asked me for help opening one of these fucking things
>>721122127S2 is one of my favorite JRPGs and no, Stories never had a chance at being a "Pokemon killer". The only thing with a chance at that title is Game Freak themselves.Stories 3 looks better than anything TPC will ever put out, but it's selling to a smaller audience (MH fans, Capcom fans, JRPG/MonColl crowd). Pokemon sells to the entire planet and have that audience locked.
>>721122926What happened after he took it?
>>721122784Like every class in DD1 is fundamentally flawed because of fucked scaling>Warrior jump attack>Magic knight magic cannon>Sorcerer and mage holy bolts making actual magic pointless >Fighter Dragon Maw spam>don’t know the archer classes as well I think it was exploding arrow thoughDD2 had a lot better combat but it’s wasted since the game ends pretty fast once you unlock all the options
>>721123037Raped his husband right in front of him.
>>721123008>Stories never had a chance at being a "Pokemon killer".Yes, it does; it's a gigantic IP so already doesn't have the flaw every monster catching game had (the need to make itself a established name).
>>721123059The magic cannon is the worst of the lot, you don't even fight the enemy, you just beat the stupid drum and everything dies because it shoots out a million homing missiles with scaling damage
>>721123261Stories will never be anything but MH fanservice the core game mechanics are just bad.
>>721123261MH monsters just aren't cute. They're designed to be cool and sick for the most part.There's not that many because MH is an action game and the monsters need assloads of animations. A fucking Anteka probably has more animations than the average Pokemon monster.Pokemon are cute, and there's a LOT of them. It doesn't take any effort to make them (in fact, seems like GF hasn't even put any for a while) so chances are there's at least 100 you'll like.Just yesterday day my siblings were showing me the fat Victreebell trailer going>omggg it's so fat &sloshy and cute!!>>721123442Nah I think S2 already showed the potential for depth it had pretty effectively.
>>721115764Shadow of Mordor's Nemesis System>enemies "remember," and "react," to the player's actions>creates new dynamic sub-stories, and relationships with the player>UNLIMITED POSSIBILITIES>locked away forever and ever behind a patent owned by a company that won't use it againIf it was implemented in an honest-to-God RPG instead of being locked away in an 11-year old Assassin's Creed clone it would have been revolutionary.
>>721123442Mainline and Stories' players don't overlap, anon. I can claim it since I love it but avoid mainline like the plague.>>721124083They're cute enough; they can extent to complete Japan control, They have the angle from Digimon had but all the capacity to fuck it up like Bandai has with it. That alone gives the much needed variety pokemon players and the genre needs. And let's be real the new digimon game ain't it
>>721124407>They have the angle from Digimon had but all the capacity to fuck it up like Bandai has with it.*to not fuck it up (even if it's capcom)
>>721124083>S2 already showed the potential for depth it had pretty effectively.S2 straight up had to add partner characters who could use up your lives because otherwise it'd be too simple, there's a reason everyone gravitates toward Reverto (other than him being hilarious)
>>721115764Sonic Forces, Sonic Dream Team, that shitty Sonic gatcha, Sonic Frontiers and Sonic Crossworlds to name a few examples.I hate Nintendo even more, btw and I'm just livid that sega is dropping the ball on these potential bangers every. single. time.
>wasted potentialMore like coping that you bet on a shit game and it turned out to be shit
>>721115891I’m still holding out hope for dd2 dark arisen
>>72112478399% of the games made in the past 15 years have been shit and not even cringe kino, just pure shit.
>>721116365Deducitvely reasoned that rhino pussy was a more optimal choice.
>>721115764>Dragon's Dogma 2>Bonnerlord
>>721115764minecraftmicrosoft really could have pivoted it into a roblox copy with dynamic modpack support, but instead they decided to sit on their cash cow and do fuck all.it's been ELEVEN years and the core gameplay loop hasn't improved in the slightest.
>>721115840I'm guessing this is just anfetamines
>>721125379Minecraft is rapidly losing its cultural relevance to Roblox. I wonder if the movie was its last grasp at it.
>>721115891ive been saying this. like i was hopeful for itsuno's vision and all but will that vision be dragons dogma or dragons dogma: dark arisen? turns out it was the former to a degree i never would have expected despite my reservations
>>721123271nah nothing is worse than holy affinity focused bolt. It even fucking heals you.
For me ? Princess maker 2.Fantastically fun concept with huge potential for unique twists in both gameplay and theme.Completely fucking abandoned for a reason I'm not sure I understand.
>>721115764it's not even close
>>721115991>>721115891People need to understand. Capcom never trusted DD, not even the first one.They let the game launch next to fucking Skyrim, it didn't sell. It became a cult classic because of the cheap steam release
>>721115764Dragon's DigDugma
>>721115840Do other dick pills rot your bones?
>>721123008Stories would be FAR better if they dropped the gender neutral MC bs, if they went for a determined MC that game would improve tenfold. 2 was a huge step up from 1 but the ambiguity made it suffer, I feel like 3 is going to be the same.
>>721124247Patents are so gay.
>>721115764destiny 2 could have been a multi billion dollar franchise
>>721115764Warner Bros hoeing DC games, Bandai hoeing all licensed anime games, and Capcom hoeing all their licenses except Resident Evil are my Big 3 Blunderers. also, every BioWare game after Inquisition has been dreadful.
>>721128864I remember i thought that game would be a big deal and then it wasn't as big as it was supposed to be.
>>721130809they started as a way to shield the little guy from big corporations looking to fuck them over, then the big corporations lobbied to have the law changed so they could weaponize them against their competition, doing the exact opposite thing that they were meant for
>>721131204Kinda funny how unions have their downsides now, but the people who live unions hate patents.
>>721115840For a sec i though that said Destructive Reasoning.
>>721115764They should have just broken his bone and pulled him out before shock killed him if he was going to die either way.
>>721130809I think the worst was probably Bandai patenting minigames during loading screens, which lead to developers having to hide longer load times with elevators and hallways to keep players "entertained," and now we're here.
>>721130551Nah, I wanna make my character.CCs have literally never harmed an RPG, in fact RPGs without a CC tend to be a lot more hit-or-miss for me
The entire industry is wasted potential. Think back 15 years ago, has anything really improved? Every franchise that still exists is a bastardized shell of its former self. Call of duty, Battlefield, Civ, DD, Sims, Halo, etc...Just the other day, I was scratching my head wondering how Creative Assembly managed to fuck up Total War Warhammer 3 when all they had to do was copy and paste Total War Warhammer 2 while adding new factions. It just seems like every new entry is (with a very minor few exceptions) a direct downgrade of the former entry.
>>721131772i also like having the option to make a character from scratch, but being able to customize a pre-made character's hair, hair color, eye color, and other "secondary" traits is honestly enough for me in many scenarios. as i get older, i find myself more and more likely to just play the default character in many RPGs with a different hairstyle or eye color, than to actually fiddle with sliders and shit for two hours. at most i'll browse Nexus and YouTube for like half an hour, choose a slider preset somebody else made, and then put my own little spin on it.
>>721115891Immediately leaving the company to go make your own and start development on your own game is not the move of a man who got to do what he felt was best for his pet project game.
>>721131962i think Baldur's Gate 3 is at least comperable to the Mass Effect trilogy and DAO, and i think Cyberpunk blows the doors off anything Bethesda have done since Skyrim. DB FighterZ is probably the best fighting game ever made, with potential to be overtaken by Marvel Tōkon. Smash Ultimate smokes Smash Melee. Dark Souls and Elden Ring make Zelda look like a fucking Fisher Price toy. the only genre i think has really stagnanted is shootan, and i blame most of that on EA, DICE, Activision, and the staggering mismanagement of Halo after Reach.
>>721116062wait is Dragon's Dogma a FF XV like?
>>721116062>jump light repeatedlythe only realistic depiction of warrior gameplay i've ever seen from these clips
>>721133804you can also attack normally and do the same damage 10x slower
