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People who don't want a new console generation released have Stockholm syndrome from when consoles had very poor specs.
The PS5 is a decent pc.
The PS6 will be an improved pc.
You don't need a new gen to save you from horrible hardware like the PS4 did with the PS3.
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my negro, PS5 already costs like $700
an "improved PS5" would be $1000+ and suddenly all the normies bitching about Switch 2 being too expensive will look even more retarded
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Can't wait for them to release PS6 and the PS5 will still have no games.
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the ps5 is being beaten by tablet hardware nowadays. call it decent is a stretch. it's passable at best. the bare minimum. decent hardware doesn't struggle to run games at 1080p like the ps5 does. also the cpu was dogshit at launch and still is.
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>>721126573
I agree I recently bought the slim and I'm pleasantly surprised by how much I like it. Plus gaming PCs are getting to be so fucking expensive that it's nice to have an alternative to game within a reasonable budget despite not having access to steam. If the PS6 has good specs for sub 1k price point I might just take a break from PC gaming cause I'm sick of constantly having to upgrade hardware.
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>>721126573
PS4 was underpowered at launch and gets resident evil 9 in a couple months
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>>721126573
>PS5 is a PC
>Can't do 90% of the things a PC can do
Why are snoys like this?
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>>721126573
>The PS5 is a decent pc.
It's not even a decent console. I own one (Slim) and I also own a more than decent gaming PC as well as an Xbox. It's not even close to the gaming PC and is an inferior gaming experience to even the Xbox. It's the worst platform by far whilst being the most expensive to sustain. What exactly are you referring to that makes it a decent PC? Because PC and even Xbox are better than it in pretty much every single way.
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>>721126815
there's going to be a "drop the price" campaign for Sony and they'll make the PS6 $500
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I’m one of like 5 people who had a ps5 within the first year and it was kind of a rug pull when the first year or two every game natively ran at minimum 2k. then around the time ue5 dropped games started running at upscaled ps3 resolutions
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>>721127294
>resident evil 9
>PS4 release
i can't find anything on this, do you have a source?
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>>721128103
I just made it up for a few (you)s. It's all good though.
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>>721128103
>>721128256
There are two RE9 versions

>PS4/Switch 2 versions
>PS5/PC versions
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>>721127997
I think the first game I noticed gross upscaling artifacts was ff16 and I thought my ps5 was dying or something
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>>721128558
PS5 can't handle FF16

In combat frame rate mode uses a dynamic resolution with the highest resolution found being 1728x972 and the lowest resolution found being 1344x756. During combat the resolution seems to often be 1344x756 in frame rate mode. Outside of combat, frame rate mode renders at 1920x1080.

Graphics mode uses a dynamic resolution with the highest resolution found being 3072x1728 and the lowest resolution found being 1920x1080. The resolution seems to often be below 3072x1728 in graphics mode.

Both modes appear to be using FSR 1 to upscale the image to 3840x2160. The UI is rendered at 3840x2160 in both modes.
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I have a Series X and a PS5. While I am not a huge Xbox/Microsoft fan, I can honestly say the Series X performs better
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If the PS5 had better upscaling, I think it would get by just fine. But games release nowadays and run at 720p with FSR2 and it looks awful.
If you've used DLSS4 or FSR4 on PC you know how much better it can look even at the same internal resolution.
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>>721129214
upscaling from 720p still looks like shit even with DLSS4. especially all the way up to 4k. that's equivalent to DLSS ultra performance which i have tried in some games and the resolution is so low that details start blending in with each other in motion so the image quality is still shit just in different way.
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>>721129389
>>721129214
Upscaling inherently looks like shit. taa, upscaling, and ghosting have ruined modern game graphics
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Kutaragi wanted the PS3 to ship with 1 cell as a cpu and 1 cell as a gpu. Mark Cerny is fucking insane for STILL having only himself know exactly how the PS3 worked and never sharing it with anyone aside from those secret CELL developers at Sony.

They were either falling behind in development, or realized that this was utter fucking stupidity, so they went plan B and asked Nvidia to give PS3's GeForce 7800 was also kind of old, being a pre-unified shaders design that was absolutely obsoleted within a year of the console's release by the 8800, bolted it on, and shipped it. PS3- 1 Core Cell PPC / 6SPE with 7800GT graphics

Mark Cerny wanted PS4, PS5, PS6 and PS7 to be AMD APUs because it was cheapest and easiest for programmers. any optimizations done for PS4 will just help PC get further ahead. ps4 and ps5 are both x86-64

>He points to an amusing video by Linus Tech Tips, which attempted to 'kill' the PlayStation 5 by building a $500 gaming PC that outperformed the console.

>"They had to get a used motherboard," he says. "That was the only way that they could build a PlayStation 5 equivalent for a PlayStation 5 price. And if you're using used parts… well you can get a used PlayStation 5 for eBay for $300-something.

FX-8350 @2GHz, a HD 7850 and a 5000 RPM hard drive are roughly equivalent to a PS4.

Ryzen 7 3700X and an RX5700 which are roughly equivalent to a PS5. Sony has the Tempest audio engine and the Kraken compression blocks. PS5 SSD read speed 5,558MB.

>TLDR
ps2 emotion engine and ps3 cell are japanese soul

ps4 and ps5 are basically budget AMD PCs
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>>721129198
Yeah agreed. Still blows my mind that PS5 VRR range is from 48-60 which is how it used to be back when Freesync launched in like 2014. The fucking Xbox One has a wider VRR range and that's a 10 year old console. The Series X can at least force 120hz to have a super wide VRR range for smooth gameplay.

Also quick resume is a game changer, which wasn't exactly matched by PS5's resume save feature but it was a quick way of getting back into your last save on PS5 at least. But they fucking removed that feature permanently some months back.
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>>721127396
lmao, the PS5 hasnt even gotten a price drop
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>>721129653
Why does this show up in every playstation thread?
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>>721129389
Yeah but games are already doing this on console anyways, just with a much worse upscaler. Consoles are never going to have the edge in graphics but image quality this generation has been abysmal ever since the crossgen period ended
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>>721129686
I don't know how Sony is staying afloat other than by sheer tribalistic brand loyalty, but even that has to burn out sooner or later.
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>>721129585
that's false. upscaling like DLSS4 can look amazing and better than native if you don't push it to the extremes like upscaling 720p to 4k. quality mode looks fine up close and balanced/performance looks fine if you're playing on a tv from a few meters away. but even on a tv from that distance ultra performance looks like shit because i've tried it. DLSS provides a sharper image than TAA even at lower resolutions.

>>721129728
the point was the PS5 hardware is still too shit to take advantage of a DLSS4 tier AI upscaler because in these demanding games which actually require upscaling, they're usually in the range of 720p-1080p anyway like UE5 games with lumen and all that stuff. those resolutions even on the best upscalers on PC today still look like ass.
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>>721126573
ps5 is gay and for fags
ps4 is based and still gets new releases
will never buy ps5, it's gay and too expensive and not worth it at all
simple as.
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>>721130068
Just stop being poor.
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>>721130148
If I had 10 million burger bucks I would not buy ps(gay) I mean ps5. It's the ugliest and faggiest looking system literally ever made. Sony is laughable, the people who work there are extremely low IQ. they made a terrible system!
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>>721129845
>I don't know how Sony is staying afloat other than by sheer tribalistic brand loyalty, but even that has to burn out sooner or later.

Mark Cerny's PS4, PS5 and PS6 saved Sony
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>>721127396
Not even in your schizo fantasies,macaco
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>>721130387
Snake oil salesman who is using off the shelf amd parts and re-labelling them as some special sauce. Remember when he called the ps4 a supercharged pc architecture? Yeah I do to
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>>721127997
I had a ps5 early too and after playing re8 and demons souls re(de)make I really thought games were gonna look that good the rest of the gen
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>>721130631
how does this man get to keep peddling bullshit and being paid for it?
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>>721130918
>I had a ps5 early too and after playing re8 and demons souls re(de)make I really thought games were gonna look that good the rest of the gen

Capcom made RE7, RE2R, RE3R, RE8, RE4R and RE9

FromSoftware made Demon's Souls PS3, Bluepoint remade Demon's Souls and haven't worked on anything since

It's entirely a dev issue not a hardware issue
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>>721130947
tbf elden ring is just poorly optimized no matter where you play it. only way to get locked 60 fps is playing ps4 version on ps5
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>>721131229
>RE4R
image quality was strangely poor considering this was still a ps4 game
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>>721131232
Framerate in a game like elden ring doesn't really matter because it's not a twitch shooter. General image smoothness matters the most and on PC/xbox you can use gsync/freesync/vrr and have a smooth experience even when you have drops into the 40s because the adaptive sync is doing a lot of the heavy lifting to keep the image stutter and tear free so in the end those fps drops become barely noticeable unless you have a fps counter on. But on ps5 the vrr range is like the worst in the entire industry for vrr supported devices so those fps drops like in that image will be really noticeable and annoying because of the screen tearing/stuttering.
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>>721131369
>image quality was strangely poor considering this was still a ps4 game

RE4 resolution gets cut back to 1600x900 in the PS4's sole visual mode
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>>721129071
So it puts out a 4k image on PS5.

>>721126856
Do you really think the people that buy them care?

>>721130947
See
>>721131232
Also Elden Ring has a performance mode that is much closer to 60 which i dont think its in in that picture.



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