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How come there are so few Mech games?
Why dont normalfags like giant robots?
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>>721156523
Normalfags dont care about videogames, they want to be part of something so their miserable lives doesnt feel miserable
They hate vidya, sports, capeshit and so on, but consooms to feel important.

And you can blame >pic for this
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because normalfags will walk into a /v/ thread and say
>heh...giant robots aren't realistic and would fail in a real theater of war...[insert tank] could beat them in a straight fight no matter what...
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Normal fag here. Mechs are gay.
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>>721157023
I don't think that's a normalfag thing, it's a mil autist thing. Normalfags just go "is that transformers?"

Normalfags can love mechs, they just have to be lead gently to it without being spooked. They all loved pacific rim.

>>721156523
In this case, second question is answered by the first. There's nothing coming out for anyone to be swayed by. You need to actually have something to be fans of.
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fuck off clanker lover
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>>721156928
So unbelieviebaly true on all accounts and it all starts when they are force to work slave labor so everything is treated this way.
I do it because I dont have a choice, its the reason women in the west is so trash on average
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Guess I'll boot up mechwarrior again.
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All mods are up to date with Shadow of Kerensky now.
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>>721159906
Doubt it, I am still not swatting down clouds of LAM Locusts in every damn arena again.
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>>721156523
I've played MWO and all my mechas were shit.
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>robot

The Transformers series have been a disaster for the human race.
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Tiktok is better
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i can enjoy pretty much every setting and trope in vidya to a certain degree
there are 2 exceptions, mechs and dinosaurs, no fucking clue why but those 2 things are so uninteresting to me, i remember watching jurassic park and transformers back in the day and enjoying em but the older i get the more sleep inducing big robots/dinos are to me, i've tried playing armored core 6 and got bored after killing the helicopter boss in mission 1 i think?
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>tfw im one of the 12 autists that actually like Battletech 2018

I wish we had more turn based strategy games about mechs
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>mech game
>zero sense of being huge, plays like a normal FPS except everything in the environment is scaled up
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>>721162843
Pretty sure it did as well as a Mech strategy game could. Great fucking mods as well.
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So, Mass Builder FINALLY got 1.0 release and I barely noticed. Is game playable now?
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>>721156523
Despite what a lot of people might think, sci-fi is still seen as inherently being childish nerd shit. Ironically, this is because they desperately want to play pretend, and imagine that they themselves as a real person could be hardcore gangsters, soldiers, sports ballers, etc. etc., which is pretty hard to do when spaceships n' shit is involved (full-on fantasy gets a pass due to drawing off of real life medieval influences, so playing Skyrim is just an extension of thinking "I'd be a badass viking if I was back then...."). There's exceptions, but those that sneak through usually have something to grease the wheel, e.g. Halo being all bullets, jeeps, and ATVs for the human side.

In any case, Mechs turn that up to 11. The sci-fi is even more blatant cuz giant robots, and they think it's even more childish because mechs are inherently toyetic. This is also why MechWarrior game fans (note: NOT fans of the actual full Battletech franchise and setting) were incredibly insufferable in the 2000s, as it was the fags that hate sci-fi getting an in on mecha discussion because those games' mechs acting more as slow stompy simple mobile weapons platforms was more """realistic""" and therefore palatable.
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>>721162432
You sound like you have the reverse of what autism is. Do you have to go to the hospital if you eat chicken tenders?
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>>721162843
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1561740/Kriegsfront_Tactics/
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>>721163586
RELEASE THIS SHIT ALREADY

Holy fuck, how long can game sit in EA?!
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>>721163682
it's not in EA though
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>>721163561
>reverse autism
i have 10k hours in path of exile and 4k in factorio
i don't think that qualifies as 'reverse'
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The Clan Timberwolf 75 ton omnimech is my wife
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>>721163743
Whatever, they keep only showing teasers and attending conventions but still no release date set. What pisses me off even more is how each time somebody mention that on Steam, there are always some asslickers with their "plz take your time, it have to be perfect" talk.
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>>721156523
>How come there are so few Mech games?
devs get talked into making a mech game, no one buys it, dev won't try again
repeat at new studio
>Why dont normalfags like giant robots?
Mechs are too cool for normalfags they prefer bland slop
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>>721156928
Man every game is just slop now
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>>721156523
Where is robot alchemic drive 2?
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>literal coolest thing ever
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>>721156523
Because they never do anything cool with it.

Oh boy, another mech game where I shoot; other mechs. How fun.
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>>721164165
>boring zoomer japanese anime not grounded in anything but pure fantasy
Looks like dogshit
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>>721164229
Because nothing can top Gunmetal.
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>>721164309
>pure fantasy
Yes. I know.
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I've just never gotten into the genre. Mechwarrior sounds interesting and autistic. Should I begin with 2? Does it matter where I start?
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>>721164503
Start with Mechwarrior 3. Battletech is also very good, but it's a strategy game, rather than a shooter.
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>>721164503
2 is DOS game, 2-4 overall expects you to use joystick. Just consider yourself warned.

Personally I couldn't stand idea of manually twisting torso so I played MW5 and really enjoyed it. According to MW purists I'm literal heretic because muh MW2 beat MW and all that but I don't give a shit.
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>>721162843
Are you aware of MegaMek?
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>>721164309
nah AC still has some of that militaristic and industrial feel, gundam is that shit with the powerrangers but giant and mechanic
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>>721156928
This post in unbelievably based, I noticed most of their actions are performative a while back, it made me feel like an alien when I realized it.
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>>721156523
Things normalfags don't like
>gadgets
>computers
>cars
>planes
>tanks
>warships
>industrial machinery
>mecha
>space
>swords and armor
>guns
>lasers
>missiles

Things normalfags like
>food
>sex
>relationship drama/gossip

Hope that clears it up for you.
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>>721163987
>devs get talked into making a mech game
How many mainstream mech games have we gotten in the last couple generations?
>>721164805
>gundam is that shit with the powerrangers
Nope, gundam is the origin of all the real robot military aesthetics stuff. You wouldn't get macross without it, and then you don't get battletech or mechwarrior either.

It all comes down to tomino wanting to write a war story while being told he had to write a giant robot series to sell toys, so he did both.
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>>721156523
might be few, but what we have is pretty good
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>>721165412
Too bad it's infested with kernel-based anticheat malware.
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>>721164908
So it could be summed as:

Things normalfags dislike:
>stuff other than basic instincts/needs
Things normalfags like:
>basic instincts/stuff that animals understand

Sounds grim, not gonna lie. Are not alfags really such simple creatures, unable to rise above animal level?
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>thread of people that mostly dont play games and just bitch, trying to come up with copes for why their genre is dead
the genre is dead because of you
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>>721166120
But I play games, recently finished Dolls Nest. Good game, try it.
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>>721162843
I liked it too. I read it´s a bit of a lore breaker, but I really liked the gameplay loop
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>>721164309
>not grounded in anything but pure fantasy
and your mech games are "grounded in reality" because...?
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>>721162843
>turn based strategy games about mechs
Here are some recs from /m/, haven't tried any of them yet but they're on my wishlist
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1184840/Chaos_Galaxy/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/590380/Into_the_Breach/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2738660/Mecha_Simultactics/
>>721163586
Looks cool, reminds me of 08th MS.
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>>721165904
eh, every game has it lately
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>>721159906
Not all but many of the most important ones
Which is good enough
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>>721163586
Thanks, added to my ignore list.
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>>721164357
I saw a trollface inside the helmet at first glance.
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>>721167262
Well, it's made by SEA devs.
While you probably associate nonwhites in gamedevs with californian fags of various skin shades. Japs are not white as well by the way.
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>>721166657
The duality of man
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>>721156523
Normalfags simply don't like anything that's cartoonish in any way. They'll flock to the live action transformers but when a cartoon movie is made, it bombs horribly (granted TF as a franchise is dead after TLK)
Another example, dark souls and elden ring sold like hotcakes, where as ac6 despite coming right after elden ring, only sold 3 million copies
Giant robots are anti normie unless it's live action
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>>721167820
I'd say it's the opposite and the fact that everyone went to go watch transformers when it was CG is a pretty strong indication they will. They'd watch a live action gundam just fine.
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>>721156523
>How come there are so few Mech games?
Harder to make. Not counting "mecha as a npc/RTS unit" which is just plain modelling.

The lazy way is to take a humanoid shape, make it look robotic, then make the Jump button also trigger jetpack.
The shitty way is to make a TANK gameplay then replace the track with legs.
But what people actually expect from a mecha game is to have game mechanics related to what a mecha do. And an environment suitable for mecha.

>>721156928
>>721157023
That's absolutely NOT a normalfag mindset. They wouldn't care a bit about realism.
They will love any flashy and easily accessible game.

But a true "mecha game" imply either sophisticated controls, or shitty rigid-tank controls because most developers can't be bothered to animate non-humanoid walker moving over more than flat terrain.

If the Mudrunner/Snowrunner franchise was a mecha simulation I would already own every installment.
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>>721167820
Yeah this.
Go to any anime page on instagram or tiktok and theres always a lot of comments about how cool that would be as a live action adaptation
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>>721162843
Modding turned it into one of my favorite games of all time. Too bad HBS shit the bed and died.
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>>721168402
What mods would you recommend?
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>>721167459
>SEAmonkeys

Yeah not changing my mind.
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>>721168402
How do you even handle modding without game crashing like crazy? I was running GOG version lately of vanilla+ dlcs and had frequent cases of game freezing entire PC (no response from ctrl alt del, frozen display, only music playing).
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>>721168167
While yes the live action TF movies were using a lot of CGI, what I was talking about was TFONE being a cartoon movie, losing the appeal of a lot of normies. Marketing and the general "who is this movie for?" aside, I do think the movie would have been slightly more successful if it was more "realistic" even if it means a lot of the soul of that movie would have been lost
>>721168267
Exactly, hell I'd wager if most anime out there was live action (thus no longer being anime) it would be even more popular in the west now then it already is. Though I could be wrong as normalfags seem to LOVE the overly animated battle scenes in one piece, so to hell with my argument
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>>721167820
>>721168267
You say this like anime isn't massively successful with this generation. The big viral series of the year is fucking kpop demon hunters. Normalfags are fine with cartoons.
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>>721163561
Reverse autism would be attention deficit disorder. The inability to lack a game if it's not moving fast, or don't have living creatures capturing your attention emotionally.
At least that's how I would explain anon not lacking both dinosaur game (typically slow) and AC6 (fast-paced but without visible human characters).

>pic mecha dinosaur
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>>721163586
this is Front Mission in vietnam
you traverse the jungle and ambush/get ambushed by other mechs
you can also rocket/napalm trees/villages to destroy them
the seamonkets making this game is to adequately capture the jungle mudhut living realism
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>>721156523
Because no mech game has done it right since Metal warriors,
everyone and their mothers played the multiplayer back then, it was THE game to play,
not a single mech game nowadays lets you get out of the mech and explore on foot or change the mech mid mission, basically every mech game now is either a FPS "in a mech" or a third person shooter "in a mech" with that cluttered UI for "emersion"
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>>721157023
I don't care about realism, mechs are simply not aesthetically pleasing to look at.
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>>721162843
>lust provoking commie image
>irrelevant post
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There are plenty of great mech games
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>>721168452
Battletech extended mod hands down. Adds hundreds of mechs/vehicles and extends the timeline up to the clan invasion. Just be prepared to fight a million wasps in the early game.
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>>721156523
It is difficult to make compelling megastructures and environments that are believably compatible with mechs and are navigable in a game.
It is also difficult to make a compelling control scheme for mechs, since neither end of the spectrum of CLUNKY or SPEEDY are compatible with standard controllers, so you need to convince people that they need new controllers like Steel Battalion did.
>>721166036
>Are normalfags really such simple creatures, unable to rise above animal level?
Playtesters for Dishonored, a stealth game, didn't go to an area because an NPC guard told them that the area was off limits.
A base impulse for normalfags is to fit in and do things that are allegedly done by other normalfags. They will avoid cheap ingredients, because they are cheap and for poor people unless they are told that the ingredients are for rich people.
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>>721169103
There is something to be noted about how many people seem to think the perfect mech game is one where you get out of the mech as often as possible. They made titanfall for you, and you can't even remember it?
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>>721163212
>sci-fi is still seen as inherently being childish nerd shit
I disagree, It's not seen like that.
It's just that what we actually GET is...
- childish: tech is just magic so you have energy sword and shield, no consistency.
- nerd shit: the gameplay is simplistic, there's no physics engine (too costly), yet the most basic movement require pushing 2 buttons while checking a gauge.

While what SHOULD be made:
- asks for a physics engine,
- asks for non-standard animations,
- unproven gameplay loop other than FPS or platforming,
- above average self-consistency,

Mechwarrior-fag were insufferable about realism because the only type of gameplay that was feasible back then (and isn't cheap now) was a tank gameplay. (I used to love MW3 inertia, and MW4 was a disappointment because they moved like plastic toys).
Even today, the Mechwarrior games that get made only have limited animation.
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>>721164767
Megamek seems fun and it obviously truer to the tabletop, but looks insanely involved. You have to keep an eye on literally everything.
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>>721163857
>noodle arms
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>>721164309
Guess you've never played anything "fantasy" and only play "Job simulator 2024"?
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>>721168639
The dino mechs of that game were amazing but the game itself and especially the characters were absolutely shit
Holy crap that nicocado looking bitch couldn't stop talking
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>>721165286
>gundam is the origin of all the real robot military aesthetics stuff
Uh... to be honest, Gundam realism was NOT on the aesthetic.

It precisely looked like super-robot magic.
But the physics, the consistency, the tactics were made to a level of realism that few will recognize (because occasionally it still has space ghost).

For example, webm is happening in a rotating space colony. The physics is really tricky and there's even more impressive earlier when Banana crash-land from 0G spindle to 1G surface
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>>721162843
Like >>721163019 said, it did insanely good for what it is.
It just noticeably suffers from its engine/questionable coding and that RT and BTA fell like they are trying to emulate MegaMek, which the game isn't suited for.
The loading times, performance and memory leak are insane even with halfway decent PCs.
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>>721156523
It's a combination of greed and developer lazyness. Mechwarrior 4 Mercenaries(2002) was the last of the original Mechwarrior games, then Mechwarrior Online came out 12 years later and was a pay to win online game with microtransactions out the ass. MWO killed the series. Yes, there was some random mech games here and there(Mechassault, Battletech, mods like Living Legends), but people really just wanted another Mechwarrior game with a proper developer behind it, but they were instead greeted with "Only $2.99 to buy this ER large laser for your gold-plated mech with neon lights!"

Then came Mechwarrior 5 Mercenaries: an absolute shitfest with procedurally generated missions that's only playable with 200+ mods. Surely Mechwarrior 5 Clans will be goo-
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It's because Mecha is for faggots.

Just think about it.
>weak as fuck faggot human
>need big robot to feel strong

Fuck that gay ass shit. There's a reason I could never respect Mecha anime protagonists when I knew if I caught them out of their gimp mobiles I would beat their fucking faces in.

Liking Mecha Anime or Video Games is a self report on being a pussy ass bitch.
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>>721171863
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>>721163004
This
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>>721171863
>>weak as fuck faggot human
>>need big robot to feel strong
If you can kill hundreds of "super chad" by pressing a trigger, and they can't do anything against you, I'd argue that's not just a feeling.
Go ahead and fight a mecha with your bare hands.
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>>721172145
Anime faggot
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>>721172461
He could press his penis into your anus and you would instinctually relent.
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>>721171863
kwab
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>>721172410
When your protagonist is the "strongest badass" because he has the superior tech, then it removes any heroic qualities from them.

That's why Mecha anime is dead as fuck, same with the games. Ain't nobody one play or watch some pencil pushing nerd who coinflipped the better mech.
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>>721156523
It's because most of them aren't very good and the ones that are are too complicated for the average gamer.
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true, that's why john wick is a limp dick faggot power fantasy
hurr durr I shoot men with guns. repressed homosexuality at play here.
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>>721162843
Front Mission 1-3 got remasters on GoG.
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>>721171863
>unga bunga me stron- *gets shot*
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>>721172894
No 3 yet, what are you smoking?
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>>721171304
are you me?
PGI killed any interest I had in MW5
Battletech is okay until it gets repetitive
i had fun with mw4:mercs and mechcommander
there was even a mechwarrior tactics browser game which i think had a much more palatable UI than PGI's colored text boxes
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>>721169702
>They made titanfall for you, and you can't even remember it?
Because it isn't worth remembering compared to say MWLL
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>>721156523
Why the fuck do you want normalfags in this? Keep all your shit niche
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>>721162432
No people = no emotional connection. You would probably like mechs better if the concept were reimagined to focus on the pilots at all times. But usually mech shit is like robots fighting with dialogue heavy intermissions.
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>>721164805
>gundam is that shit with the powerrangers but giant and mechanic
Gundam got big because they strayed from the Super robot formula of that era and treated Mobile suits like actual vehicles. At the time Mecha in Japan consisted of Getter Robo, Gigantor, and Mazinger
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>>721169615
i think the bayverse transformers games gave good scale for the enviroment. cars to pick up and throw, buildings to climb, trains to shoot.
give it battlefield like architecture destruction and it would be the perfect enviroment for mecha games
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>gundam is le realism
Both mechafags and normalfags hated le realism gundam though.
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>>721170579
Say what you will about Unicorn but god damn the grunt fights in that OVA were amazing.
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>>721164309
>AC
>zoomer
newfag
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>>721159906
is YAML and its derivatives?
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>>721175336
Really lying to yourself if you're acting like anyone read for the barrel, let alone normalfags.
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Would C-Weapons count as bio-mecha?
Are there any games with bio-mecha?
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>>721175987
You don't deny that it sucks though.
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>>721175113
also i think what the mecha genre needs is some interactable environments
what distinguishes a mech from a tank is that it's (somewhat sometimes) humanoid, thumbs, maybe even able to balance itself keeping it upright.
yank out a chunk of concrete from a building, throw a lamp post or something like a javelin.
if the whole game the mecha just moves and shoots and nothing else it might as well be a tank sim or a flight sim with weapon fights
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>>721156523
this game is only fun with roguetech and roguetech sucks
2 hour missions where 90% of the gameplay is waiting for ai
the base game map design and scale also absolutely suck
the optimal strategy is just sitting on highground and never moving or building retarded unhittable stealth 30+ movement flyers
they should make another rtwp battletech game
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>>721175713
Like 80% of them are recent now.
Clan invasion is still missing update for obvious reasons.
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>>721176614
>optimal strategy is just sitting on highground and never moving or building retarded unhittable stealth 30+ movement flyers

Try either on coyote missions without flipping cheats on, and see how far you get.
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>>721177018
oh ya thats the other thing there is no rogueness in roguetech
if you lose a big mech its gg just reload lol
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>>721172751
>If your protagonist is the "strongest badass" because he has good genetic, then it removes any heroic qualities from them.
Fixed that for you.
Being smart and fighting dumb enemies who only think in brute force and numbers is a well established narrative for heroes.
If you are the one only considering unbalanced "forced win" scenario for the MC, you are not flipping coin, you make a shit story
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>>721176640
sweet
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>>721166657
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2738660/Mecha_Simultactics/
Just tested it with a friend.
It has potential.
It was alpha demo so it only had one mecha, I'm only sore about the apparent lack of diagonal movement and melee attack.
Worried about the multiplayer focus, games like that don't last and have poor replayability
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>>721156523
For me, it's MechAssault. WHY CAN'T THESE HOMOSEXUALS AT MICROSOFT ATTEMPT TO RESURRECT SOME OF THEIR OLD XBOX IPS?!?
Also
Kitfox>>>>>>>>Bowman>Ragnarok>Belial>Mad Cat
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Just annoying that every mech-mod in MW5 is an add-on, and nobody ever make them into replacers for the ugly-ass vanilla machines.
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>>721179725
Yeah, I don't really get the appeal of making random mechs look completely different to other ones. If it was a full style change I'd understand.
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>>721156523
Let's be honest. There isn't anything better than mechwarrior or armored core and never was.
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>>721182023
ZOE
RAD
Encounters in Space
EX VS
Virtual On
Lost Planet
Metal Wolf Chaos
Heavy Gear
Chromehounds
Robotech: Battlecry
Break Arts 2
White Knight Chronicles
Titanfall
SRW
Gundam Breaker
ACE
Transformers Armada, War/Fall of Cybertron, Devastation, Dark of the Moon
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The only 'mechs' that are cool are the giant, slow, heavy ones that just punch and wrestle.
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>>721156523
i find none of them really fulfill the power fantasy
multiplayer games always have to be balanced so they can never achieve it
everything else is too floaty, light and fast, and combat too indirect to give any sense of weight or power to anything
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>>721156523
What game is that
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>>721184237
are you me?
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Mechs are for manchildren
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>>721156928
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEZsGUqgtHQ
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>>721166120
Mecha is not a genre, it is a set dressing.
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>>721169702
Just like the retarded notion that a superhero movie has to invent every contrivance for the hero to remove his mask in every scene possible
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Mech games peaked at Heavy Gear and I am still MAD as fuck no one has remaster it yet
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>>721176138
Physics is a lost art in games in general now, nobody does anything with them outside of some college midterm assignment.

I think Death Stranding is a great template for a mecha game, as part of the game should be navigating terrain and keeping your vehicle upright

Of course, like the old Armored Core games, normalfags would balk at the idea that learning to control a unique vehicle is part of the fun.
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>>721184237
Sure, but only if they're designed by Japs because everyone else has no clue how to art.
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>>721185445
HG3 just got announced, buddy
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>>721185739
All the robot designs in Pacific Rim were good, and that was a shitty AAA hollywood slop movie that was accidently decent.
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>>721172727
>posts a scene that's a reference to a bog standard feudal Japan story
lol
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>>721185567
good take, agreed with the death stranding as template
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War Thunder is all about mechanised warfare and is reasonably popular.
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>>721186514
Tanks and mecha are not the same.
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>>721186118
They're good because they are based on JP mecha designs specifically from the Super Robo Era.
Gypsy is basically American Mazinger with that rocket punch
Coyote Tango was based on the Guncannon
Cherno's Pilots had the scopedog visors from VOTOMS
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>>721185935
I've been loosely interested in playing the HG tabletop for years, but it's fucking impossible to build up interest at my club. Shitsux.
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Normalfags have ruined everything they have ever touched
Not sure why you would wish this upon something you enjoy
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>>721156523
I fucking hate bandai namco.
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>>721187539
Me too brother.
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>>721167820
Why does every ALLMIND fanart has smuggest grin i've ever seen?
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I want "small" mechs. Wearable Jump Armor. Running around a futuristic space city laying down fire with your heavy machine gun, jumping into the air and floating a couple miles before coming down, all the while chucking miniature nuclear grenades and launching anti-armor/air missiles
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>>721182023
Mechwarrior was never more than a glorified tank game.

>>721184013
>Chromehound
...please set yourself on fire at your earliest convenience.
Not bothering with the others, some are good, but this one I know to be utter shit, inferior to Mechwarrior by far. So I bet you just listed any mecha you could find.
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>>721191067
I like Chromehounds more than Armored Core 6
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>>721185567
>I think Death Stranding is a great template for a mecha game, as part of the game should be navigating terrain and keeping your vehicle upright
Indeed, I would love to see Kojima production make a mecha game, mech design by Yoji Shinkawa of course.
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>>721190698
No Man's Sky has it
kind of
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>>721191067
>Mechwarrior was never more than a glorified tank game.
It's still cool.
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>>721191067
and is still great no matter the game.
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>>721156523
Because the games always suck ass
I mean the formula is obvious but it's hard to execute. You get into a robot cockpit with interactable buttans, levers, doodings that do the dos, and wreck other players that are doing the same multitasking. But any Mechwarrior game is always arcadey barebones
The best you can get is MWO and MW5 for single player stuff, and that's kinda overwhelming overall.
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>>721156523
>How come there are so few Mech games?
This is a tough pill to swallow, but the answer is because mechs are fucking retarded. They are cool to look at, and cool to design, but functionally, they're just humans, some of which can fly. Now take a sip, and choke that down.
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>>721171304
>hen Mechwarrior Online came out 12 years later and was a pay to win online game with microtransactions out the ass. MWO killed the series.
I hate PGI for what they did but this isn't true, never was, and it's not part of their sins
MWO is actually fun and good, even with the shortcomings and lost code/engineers
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>>721162843
i like it but there really should be weight limits on drops so you dont wind up just using 4 assaults
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>>721191230
You are entitled to your subjective tastes.
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>>721191067
Kill yourself weeb.
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>>721194947
6 is shit, better than 5 but still bad
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>>721190698
That's EDF Fencer
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dynamix released starsiege and starsiege:tribes around the same time
starsiege had copy protection and tribes did not
this resulted in tribes being essentually free, as you could play online with a pirated copy with out any hassle at all so the game became very popular.

the playercount difference this produced resulted in them getting the order to halt advancement on starsiege 2 and instead make tribes 2 a priority. after tribes 2 launched the studio was shut down.

i believe this was a historically significant moment that shaped gaming history. If dynamix had managed to make starsiege 2 mech games might never have fallen off.
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>>721156523
Because mechawarriorfags won't shut the fuck up about "muh realism" and it gives normalfags the impression that mechs are supposed to be slow and cumbersome tanks with legs
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>>721156523
Because you can't asset flip mech games as easily as other games.
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>>721195484
>western mechs
Those are anime mechs, you retard.
Western mechs all look like shit. on legs.,
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>enjoy mecha a lot
>politely try to discuss with /m/ that im having trouble getting into 70s motw shows
>they called me a brain damaged zoomer that hates mecha
Jesus christ
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>>721196103
>He fell for it
newfag
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so is there a mod that turns the new mechwarrior clans protag into female?
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>>721195484
Why is Turn A there, isn't the joke supposed to be that the left side is all western mechs?
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>>721196194
They aren't wrong
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>>721196103
anon...
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>>721196396
>watch and enjoy mecha
>/m/ says i don't actually enjot it
Woah...
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>>721196194
If you can't watch gundam or ideon then yeah you kinda are
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>>721196459
You don't
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>>721196392
design was made by a western artist (Syd Mead)
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>you killed me-
>*POW*
>>721188393
Smug and dumb is a great combo
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>>721196578
Oh yeah
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>>721196546
>>721196463
Oh OK, thanks
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>>721196767
Keith in 0083 was a gigachad
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>>721196767
>So burned out by Getter Robo Arc not having an ending I don't have the patience to watch the anime
First 009, then this and Berserk
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>>721169724
>It's just that what we actually GET is childish and nerd shit
You need to go back
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>>721188393
She's got it all figured out anon.
Nothing could go wrong.
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Bipedal mechs (mobile suits, armored troopers, knightmare frames, etc.)
>complex ambulation
>complex limbs (issues for repair and maintenance)
>balancing issues
>tall profile = easily seen from far away = harder to get cover
>weight distribution
>looks heroic, like a knight or superhero though

Multilegged mechs (takemikazuchi, tachikoma, radha (patlabor), etc.)
>simpler ambulation
>simpler limbs (see, spiders with simple hydraulics, less complex joints)
>redundancy in legs, many must be damaged to get mission killed
>improved balance with more points of contact
>improved weight distribution
>low profile like a tracked vehicle
>potential benefits in microgravity for traversal over hulls, lunar surfaces, etc.
>looks creepy, like an insect though

Have you considered taking the spiderpill? Or at least, having them coexist side-by-side?
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>>721197725
I always loved these types, but there's so little examples I can think of
>tachikomas
>depth crawlers
>the things from 86
>uh.....
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>>721197256
The one time Getter Robo gets a proper adaption, Ken has to go and die before finishing it
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>>721197725
the problem with spidermechs is the emphasize the impractical nature of regular mechs.
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>>721156928
Reminder that this is a real picture from a real event.
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>>721156928
>posts this
>yeah those normalfags don't care about games
>meanwhile 99% of /v/ don't play games and seethe when asked to post gameplay
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cause its all so same-y, you've seen one mech shit you've seen them all, giant robots lose novelty fast
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the sunrise happens every day and yet remains movingly beautiful
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>>721198229
List what mecha anime you've seen
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>>721197968
Problem? Isn't it more like splitting the difference between wanting mecha, not wanting just power armor, and appeasing tankfags? The happy compromise.
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>>721156523
>want big chonky stompy mech feeling
>know that such a feeling would mean the gameplay would have to be really slow to give that feeling of weight
>meaning the game won't really appeal to a wide range of people
>meaning it's destined for commercial failure
>mfw
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What's with americans and their obsession with weight and realism?
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>>721197906
It got cancelled WAY before he died dude.
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>>721198537
Lost Planet
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>>721156523
because maintaining a mech is a huge responsiblity which most gamers dont got time for. anyways, mech games arent few. just mildly scarce.
for example:
>Scramble Vice
>Kriegsfront tactics
>beta decay
>Code: Rapid
>Brigador killers
>front mission 3 remake(PC)
>Granvir
>machineclad
>mech havoc
>AEROMACHINA
>mecharashi
>Metal eden
>Diesel Knights
>Daemon X Machina: Titanic Scion
>Heavy Gear 3
>EOD:Engines of Destruction
>Ironwing Valiant
>drift shell
>omega phenex
>hammer (by redroryotheglen)
>armed frame
>vulture unlimited frontier
>project landsword
>lavrock last fortress
>BC Piezophile
>Psycho Patrol R
>Mecha Simultactics
>RIG Riot

its not few, just takes time to fucking make
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For me it's mecha musume. I hope we will get better Doll's Nest.
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>scramble vice STILL isn't out
It's a scam right
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>been playing the Daemon X Machina game
>come to /v/ to talk about it
>”noooooo those aren’t mechs they’re power suits”
>they handle basically the same as the AC mechs and you build them piecemeal in the same way
Wtf
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>>721199689
>scam
It's not a patreon game
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>>721199824
Ain't a mech game but it sure as hell feels like one
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>>721200123
lolwut, yes it is
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>>721199824
Mechs are giant robots. If it's not big it's not a mech.
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>>721200224
They're power suits. Gameplay wise, it doesn't feel any different though. Still got your customizing of individual parts, weapons, paint job, and so on.
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>>721157023
I fully accept that mecha are retarded and unrealistic.
I also believe they are the coolest shit.
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>>721200268
wrong
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>>721200491
retard
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>>721156523
I just want Mechassault Warrior 2: Lone Wolf remastered
That game wasn't the most deep MP but I miss it so much
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>>721200526
Yeah, you are.
The Armored Cores in 5th gen are around 7m tall
The Loto in Unicorn is 12.2 meters
The Hardballer in Lost Planet is 6 meters
The Scope Dog is 3.8 meters
eat shit eternally, faggot.
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>>721200986
>proceeds to list big ass robots
case in point, you're a braindead fuck
your space marine suit isn't a mech and never will be, now fuck off you waste of life
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>>721201174
>Big ass robots
Fuck off manlytears
and space marines are power armor not mechs
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>>721200986
>>721201174
>>721201302
space marines are infinitely cooler than mechs couz mechs are literally vehicles machines with no stakes or pain etc felt, space marines are just another form of human triumph just assisted
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>>721201447
Games Workslop isn't sending their best
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>>721184321
HBS Battletech (2018).
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>721201447
Retard. No (You) for you.
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How is the new MW5 dlc? I havn't picked it up yet cause I've been playing other stuff but I figured that DLC would be a good time to go back and do whatever they call the non-story campaign.
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>>721156523
Mech games are either scaled up shooters, or tank simulators with legs instead of tracks.
They SHOULD be flight simulators. Mechs aren't soldiers, and they're not tanks either, they're aircraft.
>extremely fast movement
>extremely heavy ordinance
>fragile to anything above small arms fire
The fun/challenge should be doing a standard fps but you're a fucking plane so you're moving at 600mph a foot off the ground dodging heat seeking missiles and autocannons.
You should feel like a superhuman just not instantly crashing into shit and dying in under ten seconds, let alone actually blowing anything up. And then fights against other mechs should be brain melting shit.
Make it feel like the machine is an invincible god, but the reaction time and multitasking required to perform at that level is superhuman.
That's also how you make a pilot impressive, it should be immediately obvious you can't just shove any random asshole in the cockpit and expect him to accomplish anything.
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>>721197725
>>721197968
May I suggest a hybrid approach?
>ywn never be made of giant metal spiders
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>>721202985
It would be neat to have a setting where there's a notable discovery in tech where you go from flight sim tier controls, and then someone develops a plugin/brainlink/etc thing and it suddenly goes from that to almost FPS with more momentum. You'd get to feel the "holy shit all this stuff I can do now" impact.
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>>721203317
Hmmm. Yuck. Unpleasant. Not good vibes. No thanks.
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>>721202985
>54kp/h to 130 kp/h
>extremely fast movement
Yeah nah there is a reason why BT games are tank-esque
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>>721203918
I like how BT does mechs. It makes sense why tanks, mechs, infantry, and aircraft are all fielded together often. A lot of settings just have mechs be "tanks but better" or something, where as BT has pros and cons for each.
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Have any of you guys played Super Mecha Control MG?
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>>721174572
The solution is obvious: update the mechs to have giant tits.



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