Holy fuck they blew it. This is actual trash.It's like if you took people who actually got filtered by the base game or another FromSoft title. Then you go into their head to get their idea of the game. And you actually made that game. All the memes of rollslop and bullshit bosses except it's exactly fucking that. >more dragons where the legs are all you can see>wickermen whose legs are all you can see>too empty open world>finding scadootree fragments instead of level ups>you have to level up anyway>non-upgraded weapons and items you can't use since you're likely in the postgame>fights feel like they are in the wrong game since all you can do is roll against teleporting anime godsIts basically the Dark Souls 2 complaints ramped up except I actually had fun in that game. They fell for their own git gud memes and forgot to actually make a good game. Fromthread I guess. What should I play to get the taste of this out?
>>721506269I liked it the first time through. But have no desire to run through it again with any of my other five characters I completed the base game with.
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>>721506269The world is very pretty and im glad from designed it so you could explore it without fighting any of the bosses, since I no longer have the patience to tolerate more than a second of that bullshit. I have no complaints about any of the vanilla bosses besides specifically waterfowl.
Sekiro is the better game, I dunno why people prefer this. The base game is okay I guess.
Honestly Metyr is the worst of the remembrance bosses in this. Radahn is 2nd place but Metyr is just really lame for being a neat design.
I'm happy chudcels keep the memory of SOTE alive with incessant bickering crying sharting and bawling
DeS was the best souls game, but Sekiro was better than all the souls games.It turns out that when you balance for a single weapon and minor upgrades instead of 80 different stupid weapons, armor, and retarded upgrade paths, you get a much more cohesive experience with correct difficulty progression. But instead we get more slop like ER, a clumsy mess of half-finished ideas and areas with no real reasoning behind them.
>>721507512Oranges and apples. I don't play elden ring to seek the same type of enjoyment I would get from sekiro and vice versa.Retards on 4chins need to learn about subtle difference of gradients.They also need to fuck off and stop making the same thread and roll the same """""arguments"""" but they won't so I suggest contacting mossad to make their phone explode in their face next time they use it.
>>721506269What's the matter? Your overpowered gimmick build from the base game doesn't work anymore? Too bad.
>>721506269Its bad becuase its NOT a rollslop game. So much DS2 sheild usage and dps face tanking.
>>721506269>What should I play to get the taste of this out?Lies of P.
>>721506516I enjoyed the Mausoleum fights, and the Rhino. Bug Priest was cool though the one easy boss. Death dragons were ok.Otherwise fully agree.
I was hoping the DLC was just one huge, intricate legacy dungeon. The open world part sucked, just like it does in the base game, but I still had fun with the parts that aren't that.
>>721507092I don't like Sekiro. I will not elaborate.
>>721507092No
One job.
>>721508049Having an ending for this and not Miquella seems like dev bias. If you can side with Dung Eater why not Miquella?
>>721507252What was wrong with Metyr? I only remember some of her attack patterns were revenant tier but she gave many openings with her spells.
>>721508467NTA but I just remember another boring fight with next to zero rolling best served by hiding behind a sheild. It was DS2 combat without the DS2 comfyness and dialogue that saved the game.
still haven't played it. I'm not paying 40 euros for one dlc that everyone seems to shit on. maybe when it's 50% off.
>>721508382Dung Eater doesn't want to be Elden Lord, Miquella does. They should have let you kill Radahn 2, electric boogaloo, and become his consort instead. To which 95% of players would still say "no way, fag."
>>721508467Cool alien monstrosity with extremely boring attacksSome of them look okay but they are boring to dodge
>>721509363100% after becoming common knowledge that the miquella nuke incant really heavily implies his "gentle world" was going to be the death of literally everyone but himself and radahn
>>721506269None of those greentext points are an issue or bad at all, in any wayFiltered retard
I believe it's canon that Miquella told Ranni that the secret to attracting good consorts was to be small and cute. And that's why she took the puppet body. And it worked.
>>721506269>>more dragons where the legs are all you can see False>>wickermen whose legs are all you can see You don't need to see anything more. You can actually tell all attacks from its lower body, but you are too low IQ>>too empty open world Nah>>finding scadootree fragments instead of level ups Good>>you have to level up anyway Good>>non-upgraded weapons and items you can't use since you're likely in the postgame You get a lot of smithing stones>>fights feel like they are in the wrong game since all you can do is roll against teleporting anime gods Skill issue, git gud low IQ retard
>>721509749>Mike robbed us of our 10 feet tall red head waifu with a thicc assBiggest reason to kill him, really.
>>721506269>mediocre dlc for a mediocre game with questionable game designit was overhyped, thats all
>>721507512>L1kiroYAWWNNNNNNN
>>721509606Not sure why he's complaining about the legs but the wickermen are a shit enemy type, really boring and tedious to fight
>>721507512>It turns out that when you balance for a single weapon and minor upgrades instead of 80 different stupid weapons, armor, and retarded upgrade paths, you get a much more cohesive experience with correct difficulty progressionthis. fromsoftware physically cannot design a shit ton of weapons and upgrades and make it all work, but for some reason they keep trying to. This not only results to time wasted on useless content, but it overall leads in the rollslop homogenization of the game, which sekiro proved to be true
>>721506269https://vocaroo.com/1if30QIzYbv1
>>721506269>>721509794You dont even actually have to fight these things.
>>721509991Nah they are fun>>721510152>>It turns out that when you balance for a single weapon and minor upgrades instead of 80 different stupid weapons, armor, and retarded upgrade paths, you get a much more cohesive experience with correct difficulty progression Must be the reason why every single prothetic and weapon skill in Sekiro is useless dogshit except fire status and Ichimonji
>>721506269Those stripped from the grace of gold shall all meet death.
>>721510246No, but it's fun fighting them (if you are not a retard and can free aim throwables) and they give good rewards
>>721510246>"just skip content, bro"
>>721510467What were the "good" rewards? All I remember them dropping were mats for more pots to kill them quicker.
>>721510485Its not like they drop a fuck ton of runes or rare weapons. Just run pass these fuckers, especially on NG+ runs. They are there mostly for immersion and to make the fields look less empty.
>>721509363No different than Ranni who also had an ending, Ranni was actually way more villainous
>>721510528Every furnace golem dropped a DLC tear, some of which were extremely good like the perfect block one.
>>721506269Nah shadow of the erdtree is great. Such a fun map to explore, especially on a first playthrough. Surprises around literally every corner. Best catacombs and caves in the game. Black keep is one of the best legacy dungeon in the entire souls series. Rellanna and the flower are the best bosses in the game. The only things that I don't like are areas like charos hidden grave being basically pointless, finger ruins being super bare bones and most of the loot scattered around the map being shit you don't really need. But that's pretty easy to look past considering how much cool shit there is.Scadutree fragments rule. It feels good to get stronger. There should have been more of them, less powerful, and scattered all over the place instead of smithing stones.
>>721510784Charo's and Ceruleans were lame, but I don't understand the gripe with the finger forests.
>>721510590that's not an argument. if the dlc is a bunch of shitty optional stuff that you'd rather skip, might as well not play it at all.
>>721510784My biggest compliant isnt that its bad, just that it was a step back. I enjoyed the main game much more.That said I played my first pot dungeon in a lightning storm and it was the most fun I'd ever had in any fromsoft game. It definitely had its moments.I just really hope its not the direction for future games.
>>721506269>more dragons where the legs are all you can seePull your camera up>wickermen whose legs are all you can seePull your camera up>too empty open worldObjectively wrong, it's the most dense by content kino berserk level design>finding scadootree fragments instead of level ups>you have to level up anyway>non-upgraded weapons and items you can't use since you're likely in the postgameLiteral skill issue, played trough with a level20 vagabond without any weapon upgrades whatsoever, fragments give you immense damage boost and the entire dlc scales to what your character is>fights feel like they are in the wrong game since all you can do is roll against teleporting anime godsYou are still only rolling instead of using jumps and guard counters Conclusion: you are the shitter who complained about mountaintop of the giants because you suddenly got your shit pushed in by a damage spikenand it ruined your power fantasy. Git gud faggot.>But I had fun in ds2! It's the easiest fucking game of the entire franchise because you have infinite livegems to save your ass. My verdict is reinforced.
>>721511283So you admit the lore was retarded?
>>721511103Do you fight those fat poison plants and everything in Caelid as well, idiot?
>>721511420you didnt beat the game if you skipped
>>721511283>Objectively wrong, it's the most dense by content kino berserk level designWhat? Compared to any other game except maybe DeS thats just not true? Dark Souls never had a Charo's, Cerulean or finger forest. The DLC trigger spots in DS1 is the closest I can think of?
>>721506269They should’ve just made the dlc accessible around Altus Plateau instead of requiring Mohg, that way the upgrade mats that people complain about aren’t worthless. And you won’t need to scooby-doo fragments to artificially introduce difficulty.
>>721506269If you had any hope for this DLC, then you are a retard. Elden Dogshit Ring base game already proved to be the worst Souls-ish game FromSoftware has made. A massive, boring, empty, time wasting open-world slop only enjoyed by low IQ subhumans, fake gamers, shitters, casuals and posers.The last two great games FromSoftware has made are Sekiro and Armored Core VI. They really fell off hard. Luckily, The Duskbloods is looking promising, I always wanted to see what FromSoftware can do with a dedicated PvP game. I will purchase The Duskbloods day 1 and also pick up a Switch 2. I am pretty sure The Duskbloods will come to Steam at a later date, because FromSoftware owns 100% of the IP. I still want to enjoy it day 1 without any potential PC cheaters.
>>721511372What's retarded about gay brother romance?NTA, I didnt love the DLC but I thought the lore was good besides the end boss. Shaman village, pot dungeons, rot orphans, greater will stagnation, Mohg beating the charges, the dangerous power of love, and the God giving up his humanity were all fantastic.
>>721511485cry about it
>>721506269It's actually was pretty good.
>>721507092Sekiro is an actual properly designed game and the only FromSoftware Souls-ish game in which people have to "GitGud" (for the first time ever). Sekiro literally filtered more than a million FromSoftware/Soulsborne cocksuckers, that is why it is hated so much.Sekiro was kept relatively easy to play, because Miyazaki sucks at action games. Now that Miyazaki allows other directors to make a game without his involvement, Sekiro 2 or the spiritual successor to Sekiro will be much better and harder, I can't wait.
>>721511684>The last two great games FromSoftware has made are SekiroBoxed in Rythem game that sold poorly. Grim.
>>721511805I wish I played it right when it launched to see the bitching, I waited because I was playing other gamesI remember seeing that /v/ was filtered by the ogre miniboss specifically
>>721507512This is why Sekiro and Bloodborne had the best combat experience compared to the other games. A focus on quality instead of quantity.
>>721511751>Mohg beating the chargesPeople who think this is a good change are legitimately retarded, because 1. he didn't, and 2. Mohg ends up having LESS solid characterization post DLC because of how messy the charm business is. Not to mention that if you genuinely believe him getting charmed was some big brain keikaku it completely rapes the tragedy of the Haligtree and is completely incoherent timeline wise.
>>721511805It sold less than DS2, only fromsoft game to sell less than the one before it. It never got a DLC, its never getting a sequel.You charmless NG fanboys forget how awful the first 3rd addslop bosses were.
>>721511962He litterally did, thats the whole plot point to his vassal. You sound as uneducated as you are illiterate and autustic. Im sorry you weren't smart enough to follow, or use proper grammar, or communicate in a way that wouldn't repel women, lol.
>>721511971>sales=good gameCall of Duty outsells everything you have ever loved, it's just better is why
The green-tinted lighting that sometimes happens in Scadu Altus looks worse than the unfinished areas in DS2 or the universal glossiness of DS3. It's the first instance I can recall in Elden Ring where the game looks undeniably ugly, almost like the lighting is bugged. It probably even is, the world lighting changes really aggressively in the DLC in places and at times where it feels like it shouldn't.
>>721511818Sekiro is their second best selling title, after Elden Dogshit Ring, but sales do not matter that much. Quality is all that matters and Sekiro and Armored Core VI are much higher quality than Elden Dogshit Ring.
>>721511372>>721511751He isn't gay, he's a malevolent brainwasher/manipulator. He's just failed Griffith.
>>721512107Retard, it is never stated when Mohg was charmed, if you do not realize how insanely retarded it would be for Miquella to plan his own kidnapping, tell NOBDOY about it while everything around him falls apart due to his absence while proceeding to do literally fucking nothing you are beyond help. I think Miquella's story is putrid shit the way it's written, I don't know why people would want it to be even worse than it already is by accepting the planned kidnapping headcanon.
>>721508382in the cut content you could side with miquellahe had similar dialog to ranni's ending too
>>721511886Yep, those retards are still traumatized and they are in this very thread right now seething and replying to me and others trying to discredit Sekiro, it is hillarious.>>721511971Sekiro is the second best selling FromSoftware game, only Elden Dogshit Ring sold better, but that doesn't matter, sales don't determine the quality of a game.Sekiro, Armored Core VI and Elden Dogshit ring were all developed at the same time and non of these games were supposed to get DLC. Elden Dogshit Ring got a DLC as part of the deal with Bandai Namco, to transfer 100% ownership of Elden Dogshit Ring IP to FromSoftware. That is why its DLC is so disjointed from the main game, it was a rush job and Elden Dogshit Ring masses ate it up.Miyazaki already confirmed he has plans for the next Bloodborne/Sekiro. You are not a true fan of FromSoftware, if you were, you wouldn't make the retarded and incorrect statement you did. You are just another Elden Dogshit Ring secondary newcomer, just another shitter filtered by Sekiro, many such cases. You do not belong, you never belonged and you never ever will belong in the ture Souls/FromSoftware fanbase.
>>721512587>belonglook at this fag
>>721512587Both Sekiro and Elden Ring are good, actually. You are wrong.
>>721512698The only fag here is you, you have no passion, you hide behind irony, very typical for your generation, utterly brainrotted by growing up with smarphones and social media, a true subhuman. The fact that the word "belong" triggered you, betrays your insecurity. You do not belong, get over it, you will always be a secondary. Every true FromSoftware and Souls fan HATES Elden Dogshit Ring, there is no exception to this rule.
>>721512878you sound mad
>>721512868Elden Dogshit Ring is a betrayal of the Souls games and everything they stood for, that is why I call it a Souls-ish game, it can't be called a Souls game. You will always be a secondary, kill yourself open-world slop enjoying subhuman son of a whore.
>>721512895Treating you as the subhuman secondary you are doesn't mean I am mad.
>>721512985uh huh
>>721513005Got anything relevant or meaningful to say? Of course not, brainrotted by growing up on smartphones and social media. Keep proving me right.
>>721513113I feel bad so I'll give you some more (You)you need to work on it a lot more, this is amateurishthis is not how you do things
>>721509794>posts the most mind-numbingly boring 40 seconds of gameplay ever seen>"this is a lot of fun, actually"not very convincing
>>721512341shill me AC6, the opinions about it on this board seem very polarized but I'm a Sekiro appreciator too so it seems like our tastes are aligned
>>721513436It is a game made by FromSoftware S-Team, this picture should be enough for you try it out. Armored Core VI is an action game first, a mech game second, while all previous Armored Core games were mech games first, action games second.
>>721513814>this picture should be enough for you try it outindeed that's pretty convincing>Armored Core VI is an action game first, a mech game second, while all previous Armored Core games were mech games first, action games second.sounds good to me, I feel bad for the AC fans but that series never attracted me so the game having a bigger focus on smooth action and less on "turn the controller upside down" autism is a good thing in my book
the truth is that Fromsoft simply makes good games. not everything is perfect, but they get the most important things right and don't try to simply milk one good idea with copy-paste releases>>721513814>Armored Core VI is [...] a mech game secondif you compare them to other franchises like Battletech, then you could have a point, but AC6 isn't much different than other AC titles
>>721506269I have thousands upon thousands of hours clocked on DaS and DS3, but couldn't haul myself into finishing Elden Ring. I quit after my second copy-pasted dungeon. In that moment I knew it wasn't for me.
>>721507092Sekiro is a better game but you can't cheese your way around it
>Game leta you block, deflect, jump, crouch and party attacks>It's the game's fault when players are only capable of spamming the roll button
>>721514751did you reach the castle? that's when I started having fun. limgrave was dire. I kinda like it now but the first impression was awful.
>>721514751Just don't do any cave/mausoleum, most of them don't even have any worthwhile loots
>>721514751Based. Elden Dogshit Ring was such an awful experience that it made me appreciate Dark Souls 3 so much more than I originally did.
>>721515097>I was retard contrarian hating on a good game>I am still a retarded contrarian hating a good gameopinion discarded
>>721514813There is unintentional but hilarious cheese for almost every boss in Sekiro. Can't remember the channel name but the dude has a guide on how to completely trivialise every boss fight. Like true corrupted monk can be cheesed to just stand still in almost a t pose until dead. Demon of hatred can be cheesed to run off a cliff. It takes 80% of the fun out of the game but, it is very easy to cheese
>>721514751the open world was a mistake, plain and simple. ER would have been great if it was just a bunch of interconnected "legacy dungeons">inb4 just ride your horse from dungeon to dungeon while skipping all the restnot the same, also I had fun enough the first time around but I'm not replaying this game anytime soon (unless my bros finally decide to give the seamless coop mod a go)
>>721515232I never hated Dark Souls 3, I just didn't appreciate it much. I disliked and still dislike how fast the bosses die in Dark Souls 3, they should have had more HP. The dodge in Dark Souls 3 is too strong, its stamina cost should have been higher. Those were and still are my only gameplay related dislikes of Dark Souls 3.Then Elden Dogshit Ring came out and its massive, boring, empty, time wasting open-world slop nature made me realize how bad things could be, so I started to appreciate Dark Souls 3 a lot more.Dark Souls 3 is a good game.Elden Dogshit Ring is a terrible game, it is an anti-game, it is the worst Souls-ish game FromSoftware has made.
>>721515395>the open world was a mistake, plain and simple. ER would have been great if it was just a bunch of interconnected "legacy dungeons"100% this.
Fire in this game is way more fun than it should be.
>>721506269I prefer this over the base game except for the Miquella fight, that's just obnoxious, and anyone who defends it never claimed the fight to be fun
>>721506269Only Shade of Godfrey was an actual fun boss in the base game.All the rest is bs and trash..
>>721515549What I loved in dark souls 1 my first time through was how often I felt I had found a secret area only to later realize no, this was the intended route. Sadly the game design philosophy sharts the bed in the second half. Then 2 and 3 went and emulated the second half of 1 which was disappointing both times.
>>721506269My biggest issue with it is basegame hides shit in every fucking nook and cranny and around every corner. But then you play the dlc and while you can still explore they barely did anything like that, so you scour the corners of the map for shit and get nothing. Makes it feel much more empty.
>>721512878Based, king.
>>721506269i loved Elden Ring but didn't play SotE, just watched other ppl play and get frustrated at it
>>721515549Exploring actually making your experience worse is so real.
>>721518241kill yourself ape brain
>>721518529humans are apes you ape
>>721506269If you're not just a hater or got filtered by a boss the only valid critique would be-areas feel too empty-lack of secrets-some weapon types were underrepresented or useless-no new achievements-no new ending-the price tag maybeother than that it was exactly what a normal person would have expected, its just more of the same elden ring and most things that some people wanted were personal wishes like specific weapn types
>>721510784Do people actually unironically like black keep? I don't remember a single thing about it, it melted completely with all other generic castles Fromsoft has made. It's just the 7th grand archives, who cares
>>721518241Yes.
>>721506269>ly fuckinThis DLC is non-canon.
>>721506269Elden Ring is just boring as fuck because there's no core gameplay mechanics to improve at. It's just learning a boss's timings and nothing more.Also the weapons blow, boring samey movesets.
>>721516215This.
>>721508467Metyr has one(1) attack that you can't roll through, a laser attack she does while spinning in the air. You have to oath of vengeance/raptor of the mists/block/be far enough away to run away and not be hit. Basically one of the only times in the game where you can't mindlessly rollslop. This makes RL1 trannies seethe because all they want to do is rollslop. Using other dodge methods or spacing is completely foreign to them. If someone is seething about Metyr there is a 99% chance they are a RL1 tranny that got filtered by metyr's laser attack
>>721515549I hate the openworldification if video games, this pic summarizes it pretty well, especially the "burnout" and "replayability" parts. The open world games are made for the masses who buy the newest fotm slop only to play it once. That's why they are so big, to lure the players in so that they stand for at least 3 hours and dont get the refund. Even better if they either beat the game or at least progress past 60%, they will remember it as a good game but will never return to it, awaiting the next release
>>721510784>Black keep is one of the best legacy dungeon in the entire souls series.What? Fuck no. It's completely disjointed with bad use of space and inconsistent art direction.
>>721506269>Its basically the Dark Souls 2 complaintsDark Souls 2 DLCs gave you>Dragons where you CAN see the whole dragon>Densely packed crafted areas>Levelups instead of Scoobisnacks>Already upgraded weapons you pick up off the ground>Fights which are definitely in the correct game because bosses are as slow as the playerYou are Impressively wrong, you retard
>>721526572It's like one of those PS2 monster hunter webms where the guy isn't really fighting the monster, he is following a memorized dance routine.
>>721506269>>non-upgraded weapons and items you can't use since you're likely in the postgameget all the bell bearings to buy as much smithing stones as u want
>>721527485This is how I felt about Midir. What a shit boss. You are doing nothing 90% of the time. Gael is about as bad too.>look, we now have flashy anime spammy bosses now!And ER is much worse than DS3 for this. Sad!
>>721527626But anon, it will only ever be +24. +24 is useless. It has to be +25.
>>721527485>knowing when you can attack safely "isn't really fighting the monster"
>>721511805>only properly designed game It’s completely broken by L1 mash. Sekiro is much easier than every souls game which is literally why thirdies like you over rate it
I liked it therefore its good
>>721528337simple asHERBED this tranny thread b t w
>>721528238So, which boss was it that filtered you? Be honest, shitter.
>>721528730>filenameYikes
>>721528910>exposing yourself as a newfagoof.
>Elden Stink>Shadow of the Sharttree>Fartreign>DuskshitsnuFromsoft... betrayed us. Miyasharti... betrayed us.They in their Ubishart era now.
>>721529390The Duskbloods is kino.
>>721529390His betrayal started with DS2 THOUGH.
>>721508049No one cares about your gay fanfiction, puppet fucker.
>>721518529You didn't feel it while exploring the same catacombs layout to be rewarded with a boss that was a normal enemy and a treasure that was just a crafting item/spirit ash?
>>721506269I thought it was fun.Didnt get stuck on any boss except Radahn. Unfortunately I fought Bayle and Messmer when I had explored most of the map so I was kinda overleveled and especially Bayle was a disappointing pushover because of it.It also added some of the coolest weapons in From history, I liked the thrusting shields a lot.
i just dont like how the world of it feels sort of empty. i dunno, limgrave and leyndell felt more populous, whereas mountaintops felt purposefully empty and snowfield felt like that kind of "pregnant" emptiness where there are mysteries lurking behind each corner. but most of SotE just felt empty in a way that makes you think there was a lot of cut content. on the other hand, it lends this sort of fitting, anor londoish finality to enir-ilim, with the silent horned warriors coming across like hollow, autonomous statue-guardians.
>>721510784Black Keep is trash
>>721506269>>non-upgraded weapons and items you can't use since you're likely in the postgameThe DLC fucking SPOILS you with upgrade materials, what's the issue?
