Nintendo has never spent a hundred million dollars on a video game, that's fucking incredible.Why aren't more companies following this model of success? Low budget games that please their niche to build up a brand over a long period of time. Why is every company trying to make stuff like Concord and Hyenas with this moonshot idea that they'll be the next Fortnite?
>>721528203>get bandi to make it>they fucked up>had to get retro to make it again>still only 100 millioni wonder how much it would've been if retro started with the game
It would have cost less if they didn't have to restart development halfway through.
>>721528351Probably 60m since American wages are more expensive
>>721528351>the japs fucked it upOf course
>>721528203does that budget count what they already spent developing the game with bandai or whoever and then they had to restart development with retro?Im not entirely sure nintendo spends very much making most of their games, I know pokemon doesnt spend jack shit for their ps2 looking games. But the console seller stuff like botw, odyssey, and dk got plenty of money thrown at it
>>721528203>whyyou mean except every japanese studio.Japanese workforce is still incredible cheap
>>721528382but the bandai namco team was in Singaporeand we know from that Ubisoft pirate game that it cost them 200 million for that one since it was also in Singapore
>>721528351>>721528410It was Bandai Namco Singapore making the original MP4, not japs
>Why is every company trying to make stuff like Concord and Hyenas with this moonshot idea that they'll be the next Fortnite?monkey see monkey do
>>721528203Because Fortnite makes tons of money and everyone is stuck thinking we are still in the pandemic.
>>721528203How and why? It looks bland and quite frankly ugly as fuck
>>721528351interesting point most people are going to ignore. It’s only this expensive because they essentially scrapped years of development and started all over. Didn’t they announce this in like 2018?
>>721528779They had to make it twice
>>721528514Oh, that's even better
>>721528819June 2017, I remember watching the direct on the phone when my dad was driving me somewherecomfy
>>721528203Oh so they're making sony games now
>>721528875I remember anons saying nintendo won e3 (was it e3 or a direct I can’t even remember) because they flashed the Metroid prime 4 logo lol. Here we are 8 years later
>>721528203It will NEVER make a profit lmao. I'm honestly impressed that they're releasing the game at all.
>>721528970It was E3, then during the treehouse after they announced Samus Returns
>>721528980probably sunk cost fallacy at this point desu
>>721528203I doubt it was $100m but they have been working on this game for over 8 years now.
>>721528980the simple fact of the matter is Metroid isn’t as popular as the internet makes it seem. Dread only sold like 3m on a console where first party games sold a gorillion copies
I was hyped till they showed the dirt bike off, I don't like the implications of that
>>721529136the open world shit off put me a little bit but I'm still getting
>>721528980yeah it will have to somehow do better than Prime Remastered.
>>721528203That's is crazy. I wonder how many games they could make with Halo Infinite or TLOU 2's budget.
>>721528203and they pretty much had to make two prime fours for that
>>721528203I mean they restarted the development. They are probably mad that they spent this much money already if it doesn't sell...
>>721528980They already made a big song and dance about announcing it. Might as well just shit it out and be done with it.
>>721528203wouldn't it be funny if it failed to meet expectations and the series died again?
I wasn't interested until they showed the motorcycle off, I like the implications of that.
>>721528675>>721528203Its not that stupid of an idea, Ideally the more money and effort put into a product the more its worth and the more you can get out of it. And from a certain perspective its more efficiant to make 1 big hit then having to juggle 20 smaller games. Not to mention you run into the problem of competing with yourself having to juggle release dates ect. Im not saying there isnt unnecessary bloat in AAA. But its not as simple a problem as big =bad.
>>721528203wonder how much content they'll lock behind amiibo shite to compensate
>>721529136same. I NEED to see if they went full retarded open world or if it truly is just some hub area connecting the others. I genuinely went from day 1 buy to going to wait and see based on that reveal. I hate open world games so fucking much you wouldn’t even believe
>>721528980Nintendo seems to be doing a lot of passion projects latelydonkey kong even though mario sells betterkirby air riderssplatoon raiders, a single player spin off when its more popular as an online shooterduskbloods, giving fromsoft money to make whatever
>>721528980yeah I don't see them recouping $100M on a $70 standaloneit's not like metroid live service game will ever existor should existdon't you fucking DARE
>>721528203Holy fuck. What are they THINKING? Why would you need ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS FOR AN XBOX 360-TIER GAME???
>>721529393The thing that's odd is that the first couple of years is when you pull out the guaranteed hits. The passion projects are for the last couple of years of a console's lifespan.
>>721529165>>721529382I got a feeling it's going to be like doom 2 hub works but bigger
Nintendo had to make it twice, makes sense.
>>721528203The actual source of this is bullshit.
>>721529393I feel like these aren’t passion projects they all have ulterior motives >DK banaza releases the same year DK land opens in their theme parks>let Sakurai do what he wants and kiss his butt so he’ll do another smash despite not wanting to I’ll be honest I am interested in a single player Splatoon because I always thought it looked fun but I hate online multiplayer arena shooters
Did it really cost more to make than big Nintendo games like Tears of the Kingdom or Mariokart World?
>>721528493>>721528514Still Japanese living in Singapore
>>721529553Tears of the Kingdom definitely, most of the assets and game logic are reused from a prior project.
>>721529541Agreed, everyone actually believing this lie should be euthanized. Too many retards populating the world today.
>>721528980It would need to sell ~3m. That's doable. That being said, this is one occasion where I'm happy (for the sake of the franchise) that the game was multi-gen because it was going to have a rough time getting profitability without that 150m+ install base of the Switch.
>>721529550Do we know he doesn't want to do another smash? Usually if he doesn't want to do something he sticks with that or we would have gotten more Kid Icarus by now.
>>721529136Same. Metroid fans can't agree on much, but I think most of us can agree that that the series benefits from having a structured design approach and a short run time. Adding elements of open-world design seems like a pretty big misstep. Some people are praising the game for "being different", but do we *really* need a shake up for a series that hasn't had a release since the Wii? Metroid games, in general, are rare. I don't think anyone has Metroid fatigue.And subjectively, the bike is really lame. It doesn't fit the aesthetic of the series, and it comes across as a stereotypical "cool girl" accessory. If you're going to go with a bike, might as well strip Samus down to the Zero Suit kek.
>>721528351>only 100MI don't think any of the souls games were close to that much, even sony movie games are barely 100M
>>721529553It makes sense because they had to restart production from scratch and Retro is their most expensive studio since it's based in the US.
>>721529749I could be misremembering but around the time ultimate released he either implied or outright said he was done or won’t be able to top it
>>721529434the shadow of the specter looms!
I hate t*ndies but the source is literally>trust me bro
>>721528351Off hand I read Ghost of Tsushima and Ghost of Yōtei cost 60m a piece and regardless of what you think of those games they are objectively big and beautiful. Prime 4 looks like a ps3 game from 2009
>>721530028>even sony movie games are barely 100Manon, they cost more than 200 million each according to Sony themselves
>>721530028>even sony movie games are barely 100Mnah
>>721529870Felt the same about the bike they added in BotW.
>>721530194huh the first game only cost 90M I wonder why suddenly costs went up by threehttps://www.gamesradar.com/games/open-world/at-roughly-usd60-million-ghost-of-yotei-has-dodged-the-spiralling-sequel-costs-that-rocked-marvels-spider-man-2-and-horizon-forbidden-west/
>>721530194>spider-man 2>315 million how? HOW?
>>721530069he said he wouldnt be able to top it, in the sense that he fit 69 characters into the base game and sequels will likely never match that in the future.>>721529550people seem to miss that in the direct that sakurai was asked by both HAL and nintendo to make Kirby air riders.>>721529749he said once he doesnt like to do too many sequels so people ran with that.
>>721530454PS5 development costs + Marvel license costs if I had to guess.
>>721530461they asked him to make it because he’s a Kirby dick sucker and they wanted to kiss his ass for the next smash. He originally wanted smash brothers to be a Kirby fighting game. The guy can’t get over the fact that Kirby has always been a second rate franchise
>>721530454they pay their devs what they're worth
>>721530587I would post the image of that VA simp if I had it.
>>721529018>le game theory buzzwordretard, they easily make like 1-2 mio sales$20 mio loss is still better than $80mio
>>721530194>spider-man 3>wolverine>already have the total revenueare you from the future?
>>721530878I think those are projections.
>>721530878These numbers probably come from the Insomniac leak.
>>721530908>they expect spider-man 3 to sell 14 millionjesus christ
>>721529393I really think nintendo wants the switch 2 to co-exist with the switch 1 and sees some games(like me) as definitive versions. There's no real reason to do a MK9 since 8 is pretty much perfect with tons of content so they made something else.I really think we'd see a new Earthbound before we see a new Smash.Wtf can you do when smash is already this insanly big. You can only dissapoint at this point and I think Nintendo thinks the same
>>721529434>100mil>70 bucks>first party>need to sell about 3 mill to profitThey'll do fine. Got my copy of amazon with a coupon for 54,-
>>721528203>Why aren't more companies following this model of success? They don't have legions of retarded manchildren willing to fork out 80 bucks for an inferior version of a game they already own.
the crazy thing is that most of that budget goes into marketing, but then once you get back to the actual chunk of budget that is spent on real development time, most of THAT budget is spend just making sure the game is a perfect player jail where memory and such can't be exploited in the manner of oot speed runs and such. is part of quality assurance, the brand cant be held responsible for unintended consequences of memory leaks and other such glitches so extreme levels of qa are needed for these products
>>721529085>it only made 180 million dollars, what a flopeven if thats your idea of a flop, if metroid 4 does similarly it will be an 80% profit. that isn't the best performing game ever but that is a success no matter how you look at it. failures are going red
>>721529349Thing is there’s often very little correlation between more money spent and profits. Indies take far less work/effort and yet those still go on to sell millions, often more than AAA tiles for a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the cost. Very rarely is the cost-benefit ever worth it
>>721528203Im gonna make jokes about this while playing>"hehe that powerup cost nintendo 4 million dollars">"that shot of samus' ass cost them 2.5 million dollars"
>>721531025To be fair, that projection was probably made before it became obvious that the PS5 audience consisted of live service slop enjoyers.
>>721530194ratchet and clank lost them 8 millionfuck
>>721528203Pokecucks on suicide if real.
the "source" of this leak also claimed that bananza was rushed and that prime 4 would be delayed until 2026
>>721531069>I really think nintendo wants the switch 2 to co-exist with the switch 1same, or at least have it be a very slow transition, its the reason i feel nintendo is doing a drip feed of games too, with most releasing on both platforms with the whole "switch 2 edition" thing. and the console being backwards compatible.technically consumer friendly, but consumers WANT to rush to buy the shiny new thing with a thousand games on it, even if we are in a financial crisis. so its kinda backfiring on them.just like sony with the PS3
>>721530194>Wolverine game>isn't even out yet>already made $85M profitnani?
>>721529598wdym?
>you are playing the new metroid prime 4>you struggle with a hard boss fight, die a few times, try to backtrack to find something to make it easier to no avail>you bite the bullet and just keep trying>eventually you beat the boss>door opens to room with powerup>"you have obtained: USELESS MOTORCYCLE POWERUP"
>>721530194>Spiderman 2 $315M>Spiderman 3 $385M>same Break-evendid they secretly hid a $10 price increase here?
>>721531627it's not useless, it let's you boost jump over those three canyons that were palced at the furthest edges of map. only after that it'll becone useless.
>>721531675wait a fucking minutethey would need to sell spider-man 3 at $100.9 for the ROI of 5.5 million copy soldno fucking way
>>721528203yeah that's what happens when it takes you 8 years to shit out a game.
>>721531281I never said it was a flop I said it wasn’t as popular a series as /v/ makes it out to be. Dread selling 3m after a decade+ in the making is “dreadful” considering even niche shit like Pikmin did like 8m
>>721531810whoops, used the wrong numbersthe price would be only $70nothing to see here
>>721531810It'll be Nintendo's fault, of course.
>>721531975>Dread>a decade+ in the makingretard
>>721528203That's quite surprising that it's more than BotW or TotK, even factoring in that they had to make it twice. That's assuming this is not substantially different from the previous 3 games, which probably isn't true given the bike silliness.
>>721532376He's not wrong, Dread was namedropped by Sakamoto back in like 2006. There's a reason that its release announcement had as much weight as it did.
>>721532647TOTK was incredibly cheap since they reused practically fucking everything and only had to design new shrines
>>721528203Where's the link of the source, you dumbass?
>>721531987nah likely $802 already sold at $70 at release. You have to count in sales (maybe tax, tariffs)Ratchet and Clank is weird. The Break-even should be way lower. Miles Break-even point is only like 1/3 more while having twice the budget.
>>721532376google Metroid dreads history before posting and looking like an idiot next time
>>721531675>spider-man 2 would be priced at 57.27 to meet the total cost>spider-man 3 would be priced at 70 to meet total costhuh, you might be right. they might increase it by 10 bucks to 80 dollars
Tendies are really gonna pay $70 for a 5 hour game lmao
>>721532810I wonder about that since it took them 6 years to flip those assets.
>>721532751>>721533081stop samefaggingthe game wasn't in development for 10 years, retardthat's not how game development works, you don't know what you're talking about the dread sakamoto mentioned is unrelated to the switch game in everything but the namemercury steam started development of dread in 2017 at the very earliest
>>721533285Think about how bad it would have looked if they released the $70 dlc a year or two after bore of the wild. I mean don’t get me wrong tendies would have defended it either way, but it would have looked way worse than what they actually did.
>>721533207>implying it'll only be 5 hours>implying that would even be a bad thingShort game length has plenty of merits. I seriously doubt Prime 4 will be free of bloat, though.
>>721533285Gooks are REALLY bad at coding.
>>721533385I guess I didn’t feel the need to specify it wasn’t “in development” for 10 years straight. That’s why I said 10 years “in the making” you’re just arguing semantics and being dumb
>>721533385Dread's development was started and stopped several times prior to MercurySteam's involvement, yes. He was still trying to get it made for over a decade.
>>721528203That's a flop waiting to happen, no way a metroid game is breaking even on that
>>721533463Speaking of coding why is it that Nintendo gets praised for how they compress their games? You would think this would be the norm right now.
>>721532810>>721533285The timing of the next major Zelda game will tell us whether it was slow because of small team or slow because they got in way over their heads fucking around with the physics engine.If we see a new Zelda for Switch 2 within 2 or 3 years, TotK was probably a small team and therefore cheap despite the time taken.If not then holy shit they fucked up and a new Zelda is going to struggle to arrive before Switch 2 reaches end of life.
>>721533484that's not what semantics means you stupid niggerif you say a decade it means 10 years, there's no other way to interpret itgoddamn you're stupidand it's relevant because you're implying it flopped which it didn'tkill yourself
>>721533642It's Nintendo's lesson to learn. They tried to outsource this game and got burned, so they scrapped that shit and did what they should've done at the start.
>>721533394>coping in the very same postlmao
>>721533668Because they're the only big publisher that does it consistently.
>>721533394>nintendo should charge $70 for 4 hour long indie games because they’re my friends and it’s important they make moneyGrim Not a cult btw.
>>721533749I just wonder what the fuck was Retro doing after Tropical Freeze.
>>721533207Remember when you pulled this shit with Bananza and said it was 5 hours then dropped it to 3 hours?Don't do another retarded repeat please.
>>721533954that cancelled game that looked like Horizon that was making the rounds a few weeks ago
>>721529441Dead Space 2 was a Xbox 360 single-player FPS and it cost 148 millions to make
>>721528203>Nintendo has never spent a hundred million dollars on a video game, ISN'T THAT AMAZING!? TAKE THAT, INDUSTRY!Oh so their games should cost less than $70 and $80, right?>NOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!!!!!
>>721533954they fucked around with a game called Harmonyshit went nowhere
>>721533824That's depressing but expected.Pretty sure shit like CoD eats a fuckton of space last I checked.
>>721533954They desperately wanted to make their own IP for a long while. Nintendo gave them a shot and they fumbled it so badly that they were happy to be thrown back into the Metroid mines.
>>721528203Where did that money go cause it looks like absolute fucking shit lol
>>721534050The only thing that I dropped was the fetus game 4 hours in with how unfathomably boring it was. The idea of grown men defending it will never not be funny.
>>721528351Considering that Retro was fucking up with their own internal projects at the time, I genuinely don't know if it would have been better
>>721534093LmaooYou’re not wrong. But like I keep sayin, the most important thing to a tendie is Nintendo making money. That matters above all else.
>>721534093I think it's more of a case of telling other corporations to stop spending fucking 200-400 million+ on shit because you can make good games on less easily.Chasing graphics was the real meme after all.
>>721534093I agree with both statements
>>721531302How rare is very rare? 10%1%Do you realize how much money corperations spend on marketing with basically no way to prove if it is doing anything for their product? Its a gamble sure, but its easy, and reliable enough.
>>721533682It was cheap either way. It literally started out as a dlc. Other than garry's modding the game, and combining items, it's 90% recycling. Same Engine, same world, same assets, majority of enemies have been reused. It's not even like Botw had no physics engine. If it cost more than half of Botw, then the devs at Nintendo were seriously lazy or retarded
>>721533285>>721533682They didn't spend 6 years working on TOTK. For one thing they were working on DLC for BOTW after that game came out, and then the devs were put on other projects. They don't have people that work on just zelda games. Pre-production likely began in the late 2010s but proper development did not start until the 2020s. Plus covid was slowing everything down at the time.
>>721534196It changed development studios and presumably 99% of the work done by Bamco was scrapped.
>>721534093Bait, but oh well.No; they can take what they think is an acceptable price for their product.
>>721534384Wow this cope is sad.
>>721534215You don't even have a switch 2 so by all means keep being retarded on purpose.Unless you're trying to say that despite all the warnings you saw for yourself you still got one like the retard you are.
>>721530587That's 315 million too much then
>>721534445But that is exactly how it works, and it's up to the customer if they think it is worth that price.
>>721534445If a game is worth more than the sum of its parts, it's worth it. Nothing more. Nothing less.
>>721529749He has looked for a director to take the reins for Smash but couldn't find anyone as knowledgeable (re: autistic) as him on IPs to ensure they keep each character faithful to their IP. So he'll keep working on Smash as long as Nintendo asks him to.And Kirby Air Riders was a request from the general manager of Nintendo's development department, not from Samurai.
>>721534141The powerup swapping was clearly rolled into DK Bananza. They spent years being shot down, then Nintendo took their core gimmick into their own project lmao.Apparently the studio has been falling apart in slow motion ever since DKCR. That Tropical Freeze was so good was a miracle already.
>>721528203This figure is just an estimate based on some formula. Nobody at Nintendo or Retro has ever talked about hom much the game cost. They probably didn't spend a crazy amount with Namco since it never made it out of the planning and design stage where you don't have to hire as many people. Same with the first couple years at Retro. The most expensive part of game development is the last couple years when it's all hands on deck and you are paying hundreds of people to get it done.
it's never going to sell 5 million copies wtf? metroid is going to be kill again because of this shit. Why would they ever spend so fucking much? Honestly from what even I've seen of this game I'm not interested in it as someone who is a massive prime 1 and 2 fan. I just have not been impressed by anything I've seen. It doesn't look or feel like metroid. I don't even plan on buying it at launch. Only if it is legitimately a 10/10 with good reason to get a copy will I bother.
>>721534375dude don't even bother, ToTK shitposters are fucking unhinged and just make up whatever shit they can to justify thier sad, pathetic delusions.
>>721533743hey, retard? “In the making” has a completely different meaning. You could argue that Frozen (the 2016 Disney film) was 80 years IN THE MAKING because it had on and off development since the 30s
>>721534967That's assuming the 100$ million number is true in the first place though.
>>721534967It's been explained several times in this thread - an initial build by Bandai Namco was pursued and scrapped before Retro was handed the project. This game was basically made twice, we're just nevet going to see the first one. By Nintendo's estimates, that's probably a good thing.
>>721528203>Nintendo has never spent a hundred million dollars on a video game, that's fucking incredible.Breath of the Wild.
>>721528203nintendo games sell because of the brandmost devs don't have thatin fact no other dev has that
>>721531302>if this was the case why don't everyone just make small (indie) gamesyou overestimate how many of them sell millions, how many of them are actually small indie 3 heads dev teams, let alone them having to offer their game at like a third or fourth of the price of AAA games.The indie market is completely oversaturated. Trying to make a hundred smaller games and cross-finance it with the success of a few is just as risky, despite a big company will always have some overhead to manage all the smaller divisions.Embracer tried to sustain itself with tons of smaller A-AA games, with questionable success. an AAA game being a big success means your company is basically safe for the next 5-10 years. A 100 indie games will have to create a continuous stream of money
>>721534093KEK.That argument that "games cost more today because development costs are higher" doesn't really work if you brag about how little it costs to you to create a game, huh?That's why Silksong, at $20, broke the Tendies.
>>721535245Because no other dev bothered to build up the brands of their products to the level that Nintendo has.
>>721534994The local snoy hasn't had enough time to spam his usual TotK baitposts because he's had his hands full trying to stop the Switch 2's momentum since he thinks this site has any pull in determining how the Switch 2 will sell.
>>721529136Yeah, I don't get that decision. I've only ever played 2D Metroid games but I was willing to give MP4 a try... until I saw the bike and now I'm waiting to see what the game is like.
>>721534093>Oh so their games should cost less than $70 and $80, right?Abso-fucking-lutely, yes. No developer should be charging those prices. Where's the shitpost?
>>721529136Same, I don't want Breath of the Chozo or anything remotely like that.
>>721532647It's also the largest game they ever made in terms of file size. It's probably going to be a pretty big game with a lot to do
>>721528203I dont really understand how money works when they make a game. Like, whenever employees open a program do they have to pay 10,000 or something? Or they have to pay to create a 3D model of something? I dont get it. I thought theyd already have the tech to make these games so why would things cost so much?
>>721528203Flop incoming
>>721528203Fake numberI guarantee it’s combined with previous iterations of the game that have nothing to do with this
>>721534375TOTK took like six months to make tops
>>721528980Honestly, I don’t really careI just want the game to be good
>>721531281>failures are going redno, if you are going red, it's not a failure, it's a bomb. Breaking even means going backwards, you have to make 2x what you put in for a project to be worth it.
>>721535556>almost 30GB on Switch 1
>>721535350>That's why Silksong, at $20, broke the Tendies.???Tendies like silksong though, topped the eShop on launch week and is still top 3 in my region. A large amount of the chat posts in any given Nintendo Direct for years amounted to "Where's Silksong?" Weird attempt to force a rivalry that doesn't exist.
>>721528203Because only tendie cultists pay 80 bucks for shovelware crap.
>>721535604Employees are not working for free, especially when you have a bunch of them and it takes 8 years to make the game
>>721535556Though it's not internally developed, Hyrule Warriors Age of Imprisonment is 44 GB. Nintendo file sizes are finally going up after being in the same ballpark for over a decade
>>721535556Hyrule Warriors is bigger at 45 GB
>>721535556Wait, how big is this game going to be?It’s definitely not audio and textures
>>721535841yeah but it's a shitty musou made by guys good at maths but shit at computersthere's zero reason for it to be that much fatter than the big open world game that they stole the assets from
>>721529327At least 2D metroid can be made on a shoestring budget
>>721534456>buy switch 2>DK game looks good. Made by the odyssey team? Sure not not I have anything else to play on the thing>buy game>holy shit this is literally a fetus gameWhy’s that so hard for you tendies to understand? Don’t get me wrong, brilliant move by the greedy kikes at Nintendo. Starve your base so they’re forced to buy overpriced garbage. Doesn’t mean I’ll suck off fetus game though.
>>721531975The Pikmin numbers were for every Pikmin game on the Switch, not just Pikmin 4.
>>721535245>>721535373It’s hilarious how tendies ignore the existence of Rockstar. RDR 2 alone outsold bore of the wild and its $70 dlc combined.
>>721535556Xenoblade X DE is only 14gb and it has a massive open world, what's their excuse?
>>721528203>Reportedly Is this the same "reporter" who claimed it's going to be delayed out of 2025?
>Nintendo exists>poor people get mad
>>721535832Good thing in Australia I can get it for 80 AUD
>>721536454>no one believes youI literally own fetus game and the sales figures of all three games I mentioned are known to us. Tendies having a meltdown is never not funny.
>>721528203>Series with historically low sales>Highest budget ever for NintendoThis will be the last Metroid game ever.
>>721536625Honestly good. I hope they put the series on ice. Nothing makes me happier than Nintendo spiting its cult fanbase. Fun fact: no one hates tendies
>>721528970It wasn't because of the fucking logo. It was thanks Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade 2, Splatoon 2, BotW DLC, and Metroid Dread (which had gameplay shown unlike the Prime4 logo). And out of all these, all of them delivered outside of the BotW DLC (which is still fun, it's just a deceptively tiny little DLC). But there sure were dozens and dozens of threads, shitposting, claiming exactly your claim.
>>721536706As much as Nintendo themselves.
Tendo has severe delusions of grandeur because they managed to sell like 100 gorillion units for the second time within 3 generations.
>>721536625Good thing Nintendo actually just makes games regardless on the succcess of the previous entries
>>721536895LmaoSureA new Star fox and f zero game are right around the cornerLmao lol
>>721528203because Nintendo has perfected the Mario formula and any other game trying to directly ape them has almost always failed in the past 30 years. Indies are the only headway people have made and it's explicitly because Nintendo has raised a generation of people who are disappointed with their own perceived lack of potential met by this company.Everything Nintendo has been party to, whether it be bad decisions or trying to sue fans for the entire rest of their living lives, has been their own doing
>>721536895*laughs in Star Fox*
>>721536964How does that have any relation to what I said?
>>721537006That has nothing to do with the sales and you know it
>All this dooming>Sylux amiibo constantly out of stockfake and gay narrative
>>721536895Only a child would believe something this naive. Awakening was going to be the last game in the Fire Emblem series until it sold well. Nintendo is a business.
>>721537053>games flop>series dielolLmao
>>721537337>Nintendo is a businessYou gotta understand. Tendies don’t see it that way. These people think Nintendo is their friend.
>over 200 posts>no one has posted the source and hardly anyone has questioned itAre you people this retarded?
>>721537360Yeah no, it's Miyamotos baby, it'll only get made when he wants to do or let someone else do it>>721537452We're talking about Star Fox mate
>>721537337People forget that fucking Zelda was on thin ice going into Twilight Princess. Wind Waker wasn't a whole ass flop but it underperformed, and Four Swords Adventures remains to date the only mainline Zelda to not crack 1 million in sales. There was pressure for TP to deliver.
>>721537337>Awakening was going to be the last game in the Fire Emblem seriesMaybe the last in a while, you'd be stupid to think they'd never revisit it
>>721528203>>721537557Source is guy who interviewed a bunch of Retro devs in the pasthttps://x.com/kiwitalkz/status/1968418087172194356
>>721537703Now that’s a nice cope.
>>721535556big file size =/= big game
Only 100 million? So you're telling me that Tears of The Kingdom didn't even crack that and Nintendo still decided to mark it up to $70 without discounts? You're telling me that Mario Kart 8 really had to be $80? It's just pure greed and profit seeking. They should've kept their games at $60 and they would have more than made up for it with increased sales volume. Metroid Prime 4 on Switch 1 is still $60 so they're just pulling numbers out of a hat.
>series is going to kill off Metroid by only selling 2-4 million at the mostBASED. DIE, METROID, DIE!
>>721537950for switch 1?yes
>>721537323Do people like Sylux?
>>721538027You know what is really letting Nintnedo get away with it?They are the only console maker that actually makes games and most normies don't want a gaming pc.I don't even know wtf Sony and Microsoft make anymore. Flops? Movies? The few crumbs of decent games they have are multiplat on pc or switch anyway.
>>721538027BotW only needed to sell 2 million copies to profit. It sold 32 million. That’s why TotK was $70. Even if it only sold half as much as BotW, that’s still 16 million copies at $70. That’s still like a billion dollars in revenue.
>>721537884Is it?They often revisit old game series on new consoles
>>721538027>nintendo is the greediest game company out thereNo fucking shit. Tendies literally cannot get it through their head on why people are hating on those greedy jews.
>>721538110I like Noxus.>look down at floor>release charge shot>enemy go brrrrrrr
>>721528203I legitimately don't remotely believe it. Unless they count the half dozen times they scrapped it
>>721537818>the source is one tweet from some literally whoThis is "my uncle works at Nintendo" tier
>>721528351>bandi was suppose to make prime 4QRD
>>721528203>Their most expensive game ever>Parts of it look like a gamefreak made itThis confirms my suspicion that Nintendo is pissed at retro and wants to shut them down. They aren't marketing prime 4 like their most expensive game ever, they are marketing it like they either want or expect it to fail. American wages are so high compared to Japanese and even EU at this point I could see all foreign developer investment pulling out of the region, the results don't justify the cost.
>>721528203>>721528351>bandi wasted tens of millions of dollars so Nintendo had to rope in “the old guard” to fix it despite none of the prime devs working at retro anymoreThat somehow explains a lot
>>721538964Kirby Air Riders gets two full directs and Beyond get’s a whopping 5 combined minutes of gameplay shown before launch.
>>721539404Kirby is being handled by Sakurai. He operates differently, and by that I mean the motherfucker is transparent.
>>721539119It's hard to imagine bandai wasted more than 10 million in 2 years. Team sizes at the start of development are much smaller since they require a period of pre production with a small team. Only when the direction is settled on and development kicks into gear do they hire up. Almost all this cost will be retro, which even then feels cheap. 100 million for 6 years of an American AAA studio is still under budget vs the competition. This is why I think retro will either be severely scaled down or killed off after prime 4.
>>721536225>Why’s that so hard for you tendies to understand?That you buy shit without looking into it more and that you're a fucking retarded nigger? We know.Be sure to buy the virtual boy as well since your poor judgement will make you buy it too.You're still retarded.
>>7215294419 times out of 10 when a game has a obscenely high budget it’s because of a disastrous development rather than the final product actually needed that amount of money to make. Modern managers are nepotistic retards who could manage their way out of a used condom yet are NEVER the ones fired when their projects bomb
>>721539852>criticize a Nintendo game you don’t buy >you don’t even own it! Poor! Nintendo is my friend>criticize a Nintendo game you buy but it sucks and is a fetus game>well why’d you buy the new game on a console with nothing else on it made by the same team that made an actual good game?I don’t understand you tendies man. Should I suck off Nintendo the same way you sucked your dad’s dick growing up? Or still do. I’m not one to judge.
>>721529393These are the opposite of passion projects. DK coincides with a company wide push to increase the popularity of IP in their theme parks, Kirby air riders was a request from Nintendo and HAL, duskbloods is the ugliest game FROM has made in the modern era and looks like either an experiment or a way to train inexperienced employees.Splatoon might be a passion project but it just seems like an extension of what they were already doing with single player content in the series. Something like arms was an obvious passion project and the modern equivalent is fucking wheelchair basketball. Nintendo is now entirely money driven, the spark is gone
>>721539875This is under budget for an American AAA studio.
>>721538964Metroid is a series that keeps a niche part of Nintendos audience happy. When that niche is happy they'll also buy other Nintendo games. Metroid is also a series that lets them flex their "technology" more than most of their ips.Nintendo's overall strategy isn't to try and make every game a billion dollar seller giga budget game. They are juggling a bunch of smaller audiences that like them enough to buy their other games too as long as they are catered to.And it's likely the budget is only so high to begin with because the game was made twice you dingus.
>>721528203So guaranteed flop metroid hasnt even had a 10 million seller
>>721529743No retard thats not how it works
>>721529349The more you put into it, the more bloated it gets.Also investors/producers want to make it safer
>>721542193Fine for me, majority of the games are all time greatsMore games for me to play the better
>>721542790Thats the problem flops mean less likely to get prime 6 as switch 2 excluvive. 5 is pretty much guaranteed because they already have the engine
>>721535556>30gb>massiveI hope you are joking. Most of this is eaten up by textures.Filesize means nothing, you can always squeeze out a little more performance by offloading stuff to memory.
Japanese get roughly a third of the wage they would if they were working in the USA. That's how the 'budgets' are kept low.
>>721545186or it could be because the game is a indy tier 3 gen old game
>>721545186according too?
>>721544251For an in-house Nintendo project, it's pretty beefy. Reminder that Super Mario Odyssey was less than 7GB.
>>721541965It wasn't made twice it was 2 years in pre production before being canned, followed by 6 years at retro. Prime 4 is not a technological showcase, it looks like shit. You don't live in the real world.
why is thread still go when no source ??
>>721545186>nintendo’s budgets are indie tier level and quality >charge $80 for themNot greedy at all. Everyone that hates on my friends at Nintendo do so for some reason that I just can’t understand.
>>721546983Do you think "maybe" i put the word "technology" in brackets for a reason. You absolute fucking pond scum
>>721539119Retro already had a prototype they were working on for a new Prime game, so they just took it from there
>>721528203>100 mil>still looks like a ps3 launch titleHow?
>metroid prime slop>$100 MILLION budgetlmao, it's so over. They're going to either sell the franchise off after this flop or just kill it
>>721547341you did not own a PS3, beyond is mid-tier PS4 graphics at 4K. which isn’t exactly spectacular either but you are a stupid faggot
>>721547186Sounds believable enough to me, dunno what more you’d want
>>721547186tortanic trannies. don’t think anyone’s gonna be happy with this one THOUGH, MP4 looks like a very mid 7/10 at best and definitely won’t make back its budget
>>721528203it's probably high because it includes the budget for the first version of the game. it had been in development for like a year and a half or possibly more before they canned it.
>>721548039On the contrary, graphically it’s very impressive but compared to the first three the art direction is very uninspired. The OG trilogy aged as well as it did because the designs of the creatures and environment were fantastic. This shit looks like Daemon X Machina, and that is not a compliment.
>>721547268Putting the word in quotations doesn't erase the meaning of your sentence. You're insinuating somebody thinks the metroid series is about pushing tech, that hasn't been true for 23 years, it's not even true of the 2d games which also look shit.Prime 1 never really fit with Nintendo's MO, their aims for the series are now much more in line with other tendie shit
>>721538896>nintendo hired bandai namco singapore sometime before 2018 to make Metroid Prime 4>they fucked up so badly, nintendo publicly apologize in a video in 2019 to announce that retro is taking over >retro studio starts over on Prime 4 development https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLIv_UXI_So
>>721528203>KiwiTalkzso it's just another hater delusion? w
kiwi talks is not a credible source, the dev interviews are pretty good but they have zero insider knowledge. absolutely dogshit thread that should not have this much discussion DESU
>>721528980and that's fine for Nintendo. MK8, MKW and the next 3D Mario will pay for that difference while also funding another 4-5 new passion projects.
>>721535556>3GB difference between a 720p and 4k consolesomething isn't adding up herethat 3GB feels like it might just be uncompressed audio. which means the textures are going to be 1080p on Switch2
So Splatoon 3 costs peanuts while it looks good and plays well?
>>721548837>looks like daemon x machinaCome on anon it doesn’t look THAT bad either. But I agree with the art direction being lacking. It just doesn’t have that extra je ne sais quoi. Look at Corruption, the weakest of the trilogy, and still having insanely detailed and interesting environmental storytelling. I’m not about to cope and pretend it’s just the marketing making the game look dull either, it looks like that because it is that. I’m still optimistic it will be an above-average experience but it’s clear dev hell wasn’t as kind to it as it was to Silksong.
>>721549629Correct
>>721529349More money isn't necessarily more success.
>>721529349I'd much rather compete with myself than compete with everyone else.
>>721530194>nearly 40 million dollars spent remastering game
>>721528483Pokemon Sword and Shield supposedly had a budget of about 20M and was one of their most expensive projects back in 2018-2020 when it was being developed. If Nintendo actually spent 100M on MP4 it will be their most expensive game ever, by a lot.
>>721529870Maybe they shouldve released it as Metroid: Beyond instead of Metroid Prime 4: Beyond. I really think that would at least partially mitigate sone of the skepticism
>>721529870idk if it’s revealed that samus street races in her off time I think I’d like that desu desu. that sort of implied characterization is fun. doesn’t change that the actual ingame implementation looks fucking gay unfortunately
>>721529349There is no correlation between development cost and sales. In fact there's almost no correlation between quality and sales either. The market is supersaturated so it's basically a crapshoot if a game is successful or not. In that kind of environment you want to shotgun as many ideas as possible because you never know when a tiny game thrown together by a handful of people in a couple months could be the next Suika Game or Hollow Knight.
the likelihood of this game making a profit is sadly low. this game might spell the end of the prime series, which is my preferred style of metroid
>>721529493Passion projects sell consoles though. Joe Normie doesn't buy a new Switch for Mario Kart. Once the Switch is the popular thing, he'll buy it and then buy whatever the current Mario Kart is. The Metroidfags, however, WILL buy a new Switch when MP4 comes out and that drives the initial hype that cascades into casual sales.
>>721550698Why, when you can play MP4B on Switch 1? Also, the most casual people hardly play anything on Nintendo other than Mariokart.
>>721528203Looks like I'm gonna be right, tick tock /v/ trannys
>>721552143I think the bike is cool but honestly, it should have been a glider or pod like in star wars, its a sci fi universe, why a bike?
>>721528203Maybe it's because their art direction is more complex than making a pink circle, adding 2 eyes and some stubs and calling it the character.Now go back to your other thread. The one where you complain about the short comings of games with art styles way more demanding than Nintendo's. Maybe you can spot some misaligned textures in the next GTA video. Since all you love to do is complain. Whether its complaining about companies are NOT making every game like kirby or complaining that when they do its not good enough.
>>721552143>>721552538it's made up tho
>>721552302I would have preferred some sort of hover / propulsion device with guns.
>>721528203What's really crazy is that 2 hour long Hollywood movies end up being twice as much or more than this
They made the bike sections 3rd person, just make the whole fucking game third person jfc fuck FPS
>>721552302because bikes are fucking cool
>>721528203I'm just fucking amazed Metroid of all things is the game that gets the highest budget ever. I know it was in development hell and essentially was made twice over but still I would've thought a Zelda would be the one to get the most expensive Nintendo title
>>721528203Game looks like dogshit
>>721554681You don't have to pay Samus for actingYou don't piss away millions in advertisingYou don't pay the ム
>>721552302>why a bike?Because there are 2 Samus clones being used for the wheels
Welp, that's the end of the Metroid series for a long time. All that time and money and the result they've ended up with is the most unappealing Metroid game ever.
>>721530028I was told 100m is indie tier.
>>721555103Most of other studios aaa games budget gets balloned because of marketing and poor management/skill leading to overly long dev time. Zelda absolutely is an aaa series based on the team size. My brother actually worked for nintendo (on project hammer kek) and he said a way to know how much a game costs to make is take the number of people working on a game x 100k x years it takes to make
>>721535773Where does all the money go to?
>>721555103If the Japanese had American wages then it would have been more expensive. As it is you can afford 3 Japanese employees for every American. This may have made sense in the era when Japan was shitting the bed but Americans are not only expensive, they are incompetent.
>>721556478>samus finds bike with no wheels>finds two loli clones of herself>wtf.jpg>forces them to stay in morphball form to be her wheels
>>721528203>Nintendo has never spent a hundred million dollars on a video gameThis has Doug Bowsers finger prints all over it. he was from EA after all, and EA is known for typical bloated AAA budgets.
>>721528203I hope it flops very hard
>>721530164Yotei looks last gen and the NPC look ugly, but yeah, the art of the environments still look terrific.
>>721528203I mean, it had an entire dev cycle that was essentially thrown away when they restarted, if they you just count the second dev cycle it's probably like 60 mill.
Paying a dev team for 7 years for TotK didn't cost 100m+?
>>721528203Breath of the Wild cost $140 million to make, and most of that was spent on building a dedicated building for Monolith Soft.
>>721528203I'm surprised they messed up this hard. No wonder it's a dual gen game. Honestly I hope it bombs. Sorry metroid bros, but the current nintendo sucks. They need a big flop like this.
>>721558597Lol no, nips work mostly for passion and to climb the later. The pay is awful
>>721528203it's because nips havent had inflation in 30 years
>>721535832Nintendo doesn't make shovelware, not even 1, 2 Switch is shovelware.
>>721528203Thats what happens when you had to basically make the same game twice due to Bamco apparently being so terrible that they had to pay extra to get Retro to come back.
>>721558972>Switch 2 Welcome Tour
>>721558834With Nintendo, a bomb from a non-japanese team merely means they're turned into code monkeys for Mario spinoffs and last-gen ports.
>>721536225Nintendo's executives are 100% Shinto, no Jews run the company.>>721536615Debunked.
>Concord 2: metroid boogalooOh yeah.
>>721559376Thats not shovelware, thats a tech demo.
>>721559458That's fine. NIntendo is at their best when they make lower budget games. I don't like the current direction or trends. I say this as someone with a switch 2.
>>721559480This post reeks of desperation.
>>721559480dumb tortanictranny
>>721528203>Nintendo is doing everything that everyone else is doingOh no!anyway
>>721528203the price of 100 million dollars
>>721559951already debunked you stupid nigger, kill yourself
>>721559593>>721559684Cope. Mald. Seethe. I don't care which. This will be concord 2. It was announced back in 2017. Which was 8 years agoWhich is totally coincidentally the exact same amount of time Concord was in development.
>>721533954Restructuring and hiring activist white women to fill DEI checkboxes and appease investors. The original talent isn't even there. 100 million well spent.
>>721528203>$100 million>$60 on Switch>$70 for a Switch 2 upgradeThis guy is a retard
>>721560037100 million dollars debunked. Metroid will not be coming back after this.
>>721560078dumb tortanictranny
>>721560085Thanks, I'm avoiding this. I hate these sort of people.
>>721560193no wonder a lot of doors look like vaginas
>>721560085>>721560257samenigger
>>721560078This has people that actually want to buy it
>>721560193my environment is woke...
>it’s another “anon cherry picks literal who pronoun-people to support his doomer shitposting” narrativeThat’s a lot of wasted effort when bikeposting would suffice.
>>721560294That's not nice. You shouldn't imply everyone who disagrees with you is samefagging. I can show you my switch 2 library and games if you want. I don't like nor appreciate these people affecting games and the like. >>721560373From my experience it's the ideology that affects everyone. This guy is just environment but everyone else is forced to walk lockstep or get in trouble. It happened at my last translation gig
>>721529541>KiwiTalkz said the reason we hadn't heard anything about Prime 4 for a few months was that it was probably lagging behind and getting delayed out of 2025>Sep 12: "So that was a fucking lie. (Barely)"I don't doubt that it was fairly costly with how long it's been in the oven, but 9 figures? C'mon now
>>721560085Mind you she and others such as (>>721560193 and >>721559951) got fired from Retro for being a activist leftist that fills DEI checkboxes, their investors are against that stuff.
>tendies going to defend DEI hires and lefties because their friends at Nintendo can do no wrongGrim
>>721560505>s-stop bullying me, shitting up threads by replying to myself is just board culturecalling you an insufferable nigger is also thread culture, deal with it fag
>>721560604Is that actually so?
>>721560193thank god she doesn't work there anymorelooks like she only worked there for two years
>>721558914There's ~1000 people in the credits of TotK but I guess you can assume a lot of them weren't working on it every moment of the full dev cycle
>>721560604But that doesn’t fit into my /pol/fag schizo narrative, so I’m going to pretend they still work there and Samus was made into a trans lesbian biker to trigger me specifically.
>>721528203Metroid is a niche IP. Nintendo would not spend that much money on it.
>>721560721Two years is a lot of time to do damageBut considering how long the game's been in dev, there was more time for that damage to be fixed
>>721560721Thanks. That's actually a relief to see.
>>721528351>get bandi to make itSaid who?>they fucked upWith no proof>i wonder how much it would've been if retro started with the gameThe explanation is more retarded, they paid this for a LOWER quality game because they didn't want to outdo bamco later. Dread was their best attempt.
>>721528203Guaranteed to be shittier than dread and prime 2
>>721560762Friendly reminder: $100 million was the budget of the Mario movie. No way they'd give that same amount of money to Metroid of all things
>>721560721She was fired because Nintendo found out that she was a SJW.
>>721560680Megan left after barely two years
are you fags this gullible or are you just addicted to shitposting?
>>721561091Honestly, thanks for the response.
>>721561121Sir this is /v/. The answer is yes.
>>721528203Yeah that's absolute bullshit.
>>721561121Yes
>>721560721>>721561091it's interesting how these girls didn't fail upwards when working for nintendo
>>721560302Lmao, where??
>>721561490Well it's Nintendo. They're like the one company you can't suck your way up.
>>721561641purely by amazon preorders alone it will not be the concord level flop you’re obsessed with, sorry tortanic nigger better luck next time >b-b-butnot interested in your pathetic followup
>>721561121The answer will disappoint you.
>>721561847Nta, nor do I care about this console war. Amazon "pre-orders" don't mean anything. What's more important is how many end up actually paying for the game. People can preorder things in hopes of it being a low stock or hot item and cancel if that's not the case.
>>721559951>>721560085>>721560193Damn thats very very sad and unfortunate. Thank you for informing me so i can avoid this trash. These subhumans need to be slaughtered like the cattle they are. >my opinions are my ownWhy do subhumans always have this in thier twitter bio? I assume its some type of code that encourages white genocide.
>>721562707>ignored the posts about how they're not there anymore
>>721561091But what about the other one? The alleged "cinematic director" is she gone?
>>721562809One of them isnt, but what about the other one that says its a "cinematic director"? And did retro studios or nintendo apologise for hiring them in the first place like they should?
>>721563103>And did retro studios or nintendo apologiseOh, it's ACfag
>>721528203Because Nintendo was the only company smart enough to distance itself from the unending, money consuming graphics arms race in the mid 2000s. Now consumers expect 8K photorealism running at 120FPS or its shit and will bomb, and even then most games flop because the medium is so bloated with too much homogeneity from safe decisions because of ludicrous budgets to keep up with the rest of the competition. AAA games will effectively end when GTA6 comes out. It'll just be Rockstar, Roblox, indies and Nintendo standing at the end.
>>721563501He didn't reddit space or use proper capitalization, so it's not ACfag.
>>721562029>I can’t breed!kek
>>721560604So they ALL got fired? Not just the one? Im not seeing any confirmation that the other 2 were fired.>their investors are against this stuffWhere and when have they said that? I want to see the quote, i want a source, you could just be making shit up. Did retro or nintendo ever apologise for hiring them in the first place?
>>721549618>uncompressed audio>IN A POKEMON GAMEI'm not calling you stupid, but fuck me I thought GF employees couldn't get stupidier after Scarlet/Violet's "let's render the entire ocean" crap
>>721563891>lets render the entire oceanEvery week i hear another reason why scarlet and violet are buggy and unoptimized
>>721528351Wall Street shareholders HATE this post!
>>721559951>>721560193Eh, I'll be getting it for free anyways. If it's shit then nothing lost.
At best Prime 4 will be a technology investment for future games. Whether it'll be Prime 5 or DKC we don't know.
>>721563501>Completely ignores questionsSo the creatures who want to kill me because im white and have a penis are still working at retro studios?
>>721564637no one who isn’t mentally ill actually believes in any of this shit, you aren’t some tortured minority you’re just a weak-jawed pussy with no game. I know your performative victimhood is very romantic but you should start lifting
Hey niggers. This disgusting subhuman filth STILL has prime 4 on its twitter bio. Face it, the game is worthless, jewish, leftist, propagandaslop, no artistic value and if you disagree you are a white genocide encouraging kike.
>>721565523Take your meds.
>>721565497>blah blah blah blah you should just accept being genocided blah blah blah buy the product made by someone who wants to kill you and your family blah blah blah white genocide is good blah blah blahThats what you just said, thats all you said. Im sick of these dumb feminist cunts invading my hobby and ruining everything i love and filling it with evil man hating white hating propaganda. Youre a nigger.
>>721565878okay you big baby, enjoy never touching pussy ever lmao
>>721565661https://snaplytics.io/twitter-viewer/You can check yourself. Just type in its username, its right there
>>721565523I thank God every day I wasn’t born a schizo. Seems miserable.
>>721566002I dont know why you need to project your incelom onto me. Ive gotten laid before but even if i was a virgin that would be completely irrelivant. Whats relevant is that metroid prime 4 was made by evil, anti white, anti male, anti fun, anti happiness feminists that all deserve to be homeless and starving. The game is worthless propaganda slop, worthless, and no amount of you headcannoning that im a virgin will ever change that.
uh oh meltie
>>721566334https://snaplytics.io/twitter-viewer/Check it yourself kid, just type in the creatures username. Also ive seen NO source posted that says this creature was fired. Seems like you are in denial.
>>721566730Meltie? You mean me saying truth? Sure. If me saying the truth is a "meltie" then sure im having a meltie.Metroid prime 4 is a worthless game because its made by evil disgusting feminists who want to kill all whites and kill all men, that is simply the true facts of the situation.
>>721566730yepand xir does it 24/7i pity those suffering from NDS
>>721567087God, you really are ACfag, and you think you can hide it by not capitalizing name, you speak the exact same way.
>>721567587Nah. I’m well-versed in ACfaggotry. This kind of racial identity faggotry isn’t his style. If he were in the thread he’d be crying about cutscenes and shilling Environmental Station Alpha or some other shitty indie game no one has heard of. This anon is just a garden variety spastic. >but can’t ACfag learn a new type of shitpost?No, actually. He can’t.
>>721567587I have no idea who you are talking about. I assume someone else who spoke truth and you hallucinated that they were having a "meltie". If saying truth is a "meltie" then i am a proud "meltie" haver.
>>721568098>This kind of racial identity faggotry isn’t his style.No, he dropped the whole no swearing and slurs thing ages ago.
If im "schizo", if im not correct when I say that prime 4 is worthless and doesnt deserve to be played because it had anti white and anti male scum make it, then simply post where it was documented that ALL the disgusting SJW creatures were fired from retro studios, ill wait.
>>721566730Looks like the genuine article, and not just a bit. I used to feel bad for guys like this, now I laugh.
>>721569193If you think im wrong, then show me where its documented that ALL the SJWs got fired from retro studios. No one has been able to show me anything like that so far.
>>721567512I don’t think anon’s sperg-out has anything to do with Nintendo specifically, DESU
>game that is in development hell for ten years was expensiveno way!
>>721530028what the fuck are you talking about? concord alone was reported to be 400 million or something like that
>>721570116Correct, I am against white genocide and male subjugation no matter what publisher encouraging it
>>721536424I supports 4K, maybe texture?
>>721562954>>721565523yes, she left in 2024
>>721558597japanese devs get paid less than mcdonalds workers.
>>721538027reportedly that was because they used the bigger and more expensive cart for the game
>>721528203where's the source?no way this has a higher budget than BotW even if you add up Bamco's cancelled version to the number
>>721570645forgot picture
>it jumps to provide (you)’s even when no one is talking to itOh my, how generous!
>>721570761Why did it take so long to post that and why was there so much kvetching in between this pic being posted and my inital questioning? You guys are weird.
>>721533389>Think about how bad it would have looked if they released the $70 dlc a year or two afterMajora's Mask.
>>721571190i'm the only one smart enough to find these people, and i had to cook dinner
>>721571298Understandable
you anons sure do think about trannies a lot
>>721571671If you really want a good laugh, look up the porn viewing habits in US red states. Their lust for shemale cock insatiable.
>>721563891>>721564091You're retarded and don't know how computers work. The ocean is a flat texture, it is literally as resource intensive for it to cover a hundred thousand miles, than a square meter. It's the same amount of triangles. You're like that dumbass who thought that a model takes up more CPU the bigger it's rendered.You don't even know that Breath of the Wild has all of its bodies of water made up of the same giant ocean under the map. Anytime there's a small puddle in an area they drag the water all the way up.
>>721528203>lock-on fps game in tight hallways and rooms with 4 ammo typesthat is pure incompetence if it's true metroid prime formula is practically a college game project or one of the hundreds of forgotten roguelike fps games published to steam
>>721571842T-that’s different! It doesn’t count!
>>721535901>was thinking of going mainly digital this gen>filesizes explode further>SD express cards are still expensive for a decent size>Nintendo kills gold points
>>721571842>it’s realholy shit kek
>>721572254Why the fuck would you think about going digital, ever.
>>721536895No, they've done it before. Iwata(?) said if Game & Wario didn't sell enough then Warioware would be shelved. Then G&W underperformed and they did exactly that.>>721537884Adding to the above, I mean yeah they went back to Warioware after only a few years. Granted I think Fire Emblem would have been a different story since that historically sold much worse, especially in the west, and there would also be the additional costs of translating that a game like Warioware doesn't have on that level.
>>721538110I THINK SYLUX SUX
>>721528203man imagine if palworld had all that money to dev their game. game freak would never recover
>>721528203nintendo is not spending 100m on fucking metroid of all things lmao
>>721550432>God Samus is so cool, did you know she's actually a rad biker chick, god she's so cool.I'd rather not have that. Metroid is one of those games where the less meaningless characterization Samus gets the better her character is. It already feels like Nintendo is trying to overtly shove all these retarded "Samus is sooooo awesome look at her Aura farm." moments into her and it just feels really cheesy.
>>721535405No matter what Beyond is, it'll never beat Prime 1 and 2.If you want to try a Prime game, try those.
>>721574864get over it acfag
>>721574939Does AC fag even exist anymore?
>he cant stop hallucinating his favorite posterYou must really like him anon
I've seen people shill for Other M purely because ACfag hates it.
>>721574998I haven't seen him in weeks
>>721575149Does Andrew Dobson loving Other M balance it out?
>>721575216>andjew dobcuck loves other mI didnt know this but it makes perfect sense >>721575149Everyone who isnt a kike hates other m
>>721528203Game is still going to feel cheap because most of the budget came from it being in rebooted and dev hell
I just hope Retro can figure out raytracing for the Metroid Prime 2 remaster. Assuming it doesn't come to NSO.
>>721574998so long as he can serve as a convenient strawman to attack metroidfags with dumb opinions he will always exist in my heart anon.
>>721528203It sure doesn't look like a 100 million game. And there's no way they make that back, the hell is nintendo thinking.
>>721574998He was whining and letting Famitsu live in his head rent-free less than a week ago
>>721574998https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/721127921/#721135829Here, found him
>>721560078More important than >>721560302, Prime 4 isn’t live service slop meaning even if it bombs, the game will continue to exist unlike Concord.Marathon is gonna be Concord 2.
>>721575949>there's no way they make that backAnon, that’s less than 2 million copies to break even.The game would have to flop worse than Fire Emblem Engage to not make a profit.
>>721581158Are you implying that a game that looks like Fire Emblem Engage didn't make a profit off its 1+ million sales?
>>721582123It almost certainly made a profit but it was the lowest selling (non-remake) Fire Emblem since Radiant Dawn on the Wii. In terms of how Nintendo probably expected it to sell after 3H huge success, I think internally they consider it a failure.
>>721528203>reportedly You stupid motherfuckers actually believe this with no source?Nintendo are notorious for never bloating their game budgets.
>>721528203If it won't have Zero Suit Samus in it, then it was wasted money.
>>721583078It actually makes sense though, Nintendo farmed this game out to namco to get it done cheap but it was garbage so they restarted it and they couldn't cancel it as it was already announced so they took the L and gave it a 6 year dev time with american salaries that is not cheap
>>721538110No, I didn't play much of Hunters because I hate the DS. Imagine some random throw away OC made for a multiplayer game becoming one of the series' main antagonists. I read the Hunters devs didn't even know he was in Prime 3.
>>721587443>I read the Hunters devs didn't even know he was in Prime 3.Not even that, it was just his ship. Hell, we was in Federation Force more than Prime 3
>>721528203What's sad about this is that it's going to kill Metroid, regardless of how good it may be.The series is just too niche to make enough profit for Nintendo to continue with it. It needs to sell over 1.5 million copies just to break even.
>>721588316If this series can come back after Other M and Federation Force, it can survive anything
>>721586497Nintendo thought they could do their usual tardwrangling routine but the 3rd world studio Bamco got to work on the game were too incompetent.
>>721587443>Imagine some random throw away OC made for a multiplayer game becoming one of the series' main antagonistsThey made the other bounty hunters in order expand the universe. I think it's neat that there are other bounty hunters that could rival Samus.Sylux had the most potential with his backstory because of his hatred for the Federation.Me personally, I want to see Weavel again.
