Video games became institutionalized and their culture of origin changed. During the 90s and early 00s the people who made video games were Computer Science Nerds, who either were obsessed with the technology itself or the artistic expression the technology allowed them to have. The media these people consumed was also quite different from today, you must remember that the people who made games until the 6th generation grew up largely without the Internet and got their ideas from books, movies and magazines.The people who came afterwards and who are making games for the big publishers today are basically just codemonkeys compared to these guys. They are some deadbeat college student who gets tricked into a degree to become a video game developer, during his time he learns from pozzed university professors without job experience how to make modern “games”, with that useless degree he will apply for a job by one of the big studios who are owned by their publishers, and these studios use him like a slave to create a game after the designs made by crony crayon-munchers from the marketing department. In the past, most developers were permanent employee, today most people you see in the end credits are temp workers. The nature of game design also changed, in the past video games were used as a proof of concept for the technology that run them, today's games try to exploit human behavior and psychology to make them addicted to subscription models. Alternatively, the game is just a front for more devious activities, like XCOM: Chimera Squad titel which is mining data about how you use your computer and sends it to Amazon, Microsoft, Google and XSolla.
>>721551635>im old wahhhhhhh>let me pretend something subjective like fun is objective
>>721551635Video games didn't origin in the 90s
yep, things suckbut it's a good opportunity to find some more meaningful hobbies
>>721551714>seething zoomer so mad he has to reply within a minutelike clockwork
>>721551820dumb ESL
>>721551714what a waste of the first post
>>721551835It's true. The death of gaming (really all entertainment) is a blessing in a disguise. I naturally moved into new territory I never imagined I would 5+ years. Woodworking. Metal. Drilling. Tapping. Cutting. Automotive. I love it. I finally feel closer to the man I should have become years ago were it not for videogames. I'm still interested in the medium and especially building custom PCs but it's a lot less of my daily life than it used to be and I'm thoroughly enjoying learning and building skills in those new areas every day.
>>721551635>>721551836
>>721552045Cool
>>721552045go back zoomoid
>>721552045Finally some fucking non-spambot content ITT.Also, >>721551820.
>>721551635>devs want to reinvent the wheel with every game>5 years in preproduction>4 years in production>1 year bug hunt>2 years of "post launch" updates>senior devs at big companies with a decade of experience>never shipped a game>worked on 3 unannounced games that were rebooted twice and eventually scrapped>since those games are so big and cost so much they have to either set trends or chase themIt's a mystery why the industry is so shit.
>>721551635>the joke is sexDidn't read
>>721552045rule
>>721552045Rolland
It's all (You)r fault. You wanted "le cute gamer girl gf" and this is what (You) got as a consequence.
>>721552045Rollerino
>>721552676
>>721552130all timer. literally and figuratively.
>>721552045Rollnibba
>>721551635I want to fuck those tits until I shoot blanks
>>721552780I wonder if ifunmy watermarks are added for bait or if the merge has just fully happened
>>721552905It's probably a combination of both at this point.
>>721551836>EVERYONE IS A ZOOMER BUT MESo you're like 50?
>>721551960>triggered by someone typing in lowercaseSeek help.
>>721552045The rolls on this are tragic
it's been like a decade of chuds bitching and still zero games made
>Jantranny deleted the roll wizard postThis despotic shithole is fucking doomed.
>>721551635The answer is always normalfags and corpo suits. Whenever those two groups discover a hobby you better say goodbye to quality.
>>721553318Why are you so eager to derail the thread?
>>721553102>t-triggeredyou think too highly of yourself
>>721553687You fucking suck at your (unpaid) job, faggot.
>>721553946meds
>>721551635>the people who made video games were Computer Science Nerds,objectively wrong tho.
I like games as they are now and think you're just jaded. Indie games, especially, are kino.
>>721552130Wow, look at that idiot saying those things shortly before his entire society went to shit. You monkey always act like history is a straight line of constant improvement, when it's obviously the rise and fall of different societies. Midwit retardation of the highest order. Also smells like a misattributed quote.
Every media these days is shit because it was made for the common denominator and maximum profit videogames were like>These game only attracts nerds, we need to sell them for kids.>These games only attract kids, we need the grown up audience.>These games are too edgy/sexist we need to attract the modern audience.That and the game journos/shills/hype campaings again just to sell you the product and you have to buy it and shup up.
>>721554312Name ten that are as such. DO NOT say Hollow Knight/Silksong.
>>721554073>you're only doing computer science if you sucked the dick of some university professorYou are wrong.
>>721551635Play better games.
>>721554675NTA but just on the last few years.shapez 2Two Point HospitalMetal Slug TacticsWorkers and ResourcesDoorkickers 2Art of RallyAnd those are just on the top of my head.
>>721555136>shapez 2 Autistic psychopath
>>721551635>implying there wasn't an insane amount of soulless shovelware in the good old days>implying a lot of the 'good old guys' didn't try to go indie and failed miserably>implying zoomers and gen alpha aren't having fun playing games and are going to post the exact same shit in 10 years
>>721552130>43 BCSo you’re telling me it got so bad Jesus himself had to step in
>>721555358Game is comfy bro, and no, I'm not autistic...I have like 100 hours and haven't even started on my MAM yet, I'm pretty dumb.
>>721554840Source? That looks sick
>>721551635you explain it yourself moron, developers back then were people who knew what they were doing/learn to do it and loved video games, now you have people who don't know what they are doing, don't like video games and only cares about money, but in the same time almost everything got worse, from gamers who have a lower IQ and are dumber, gaming journalists who are a fucking joke, pandering to everyone for sales so they need to make everything dumber, publisher and corporations greed, politics, balance the game around gay esport(online games), instead of using every piece of resources they tell you to get a better PC/console etc I wish for a crash but won't happen because too many consumers who will buy every garbage, especially jpg. buyers and smartphones "gamers"
>>721553896Not really. You had to respond to my post twice and pull out images because you don't even have an original thought, all you could do was go "WAIT I HAVE AN IMAGE FOR THIS" in response to a basic ass concept like typing. Seek help.
>>721558031https://www.kartkrew.org/index.htmlThat webM is from 2.3, but they've put out a "Release Candidate" version of 2.4 which overhauls some mechanics and makes the tutorial not-shit, so scroll down to the "news" section and play that instead.
>>721552780i hate normie self-censorship
>>721559479TY anon
>>721551635>>721551635>today's games try to exploit human behavior and psychology to make them addicted to subscription modelsI really hate how true this is.
>>721559571>202X
>>721551635>play stat craft brood war>more immersive and better story than modern games
>>721554436>shortly before his entire society went to shit>43 bceYou're off by 400 years.
>>721551635This is the worst pic unrelated you could possibly use... not complaining. Play better games I guess, I'm still having fun. Wait what was that about XCOM??
Modern games are a million times better than games from the 80s and 90s. What you have is nostalgia. Without it, those games are objectively bad. If they were released today, your favorite game would get a 50 - 60% on steam and be forgotten in a week.
>>721554436Both are true. You can find documents claiming that youths are going to shit as far back as 4000 years ago.The thing to take into account, is that regardless of when this statement was true or not as we did have times of peace and stability and times of crisis and famine, one thing is the progression of humanity and each culture in a lineal fashion, and another is how each individual experiences the flow of time. Humans are made partly due the context they live and are raised within and our biological, hardcoded needs, and that's something that took us millions of years to develop that won't go away with a handful of centuries of society.Adults and older people will always bitch about youngsters and how "they're ruining us" and vice versa.Did you know that teenagers getting angsty and rebellious is ltierally hardcoded in our DNA and the DNA of most mammals? it's a natural impulse to challenge status quo and authority to help our brains seek independence and flee from our parents nest. Of course, this doesn't mean we have to be assholes to them, but that it is expected to desire to not be with them all the time, similar to how crankyness on older people (and animals) might be a way for nature to distantiate them from the rest of society, given their time to dominate is over.
>>721561212Shut up zoomer. You've never played amazing games unless it's a shitty remake of something objectively better.
>>721559920You're welcome. One of these days I will stop being lazy and record some 2.4 webMs
>>721561212I spent more time playing Might and Magic 6 this year than any AAA game and I'm playing it for the first time. Explain that.
unironically DEI. they hire way too many women and avoid nerdy guys because they give women the ick
>>721561883Have you tried not being creepy weirdos that smell like piss?
Money is what happened.GDC used to be run by the founder, speakers were all people who had made and published successful games, and the whole thing wasn't designed to turn a profit. Then in the mid 90's, suddenly the investors stopped looking at videogames as a fad, and instead as a new product to profit off of. Suddenly the founder was kicked out of his own conference, price to attend tripled overnight, and they brought in literal who's to tell developers how they should make their games.The rest of the industry soon followed.
>>721561938How else am I supposed to mark my territory?
>>721561938That is the type of person who makes the best games.
>>721551635>During the 90sOh, it's one of those threads.
>>721551635Fact bomb
>>721561938Creepy and weirdo are meaningless terms. Tits or GTFO
>>721565591>meaninglessNah it just means you've normalized them because it's what you are used to hearing for being a loser.
>>721562827You can say Jews (or Kikes as I like to call them) here my friend.
>>721565713That doesn't make sense you BPD cunt.
>>721559479that looks cool so i tried looking into how to draw custom characters, and it seems like a messcharacter data isn't in the repo, but in some big zip file instead, as cryptic sprites with the actual definitions and presumably meshes(?) in pk3 filesmaybe they inherited this mess since it seems to use idtech, but i can't be assed to wade through it all just to add catgirl maids
>>721568331In the game install folder, there's a folder labeled "kartmaker". There are a bunch of template you can use there and a readme with instructions on how to make it work.>idtechHahahahahahah It's a fork of a fork of the "Legacy DOOM" engine from like 1998. You have to use SLADE to open the .pk3 files.
>>721551960Ok but why is he depicted as Johnny Test?
>>721568732>>721568331Oh, also, because the game is a Legacy DOOM fork, it's limited to 256 colors. The game uses that row of pale greens (96-111) as the "placeholders" for the unlockable character palettes which is why all the characters sprites are green in SLADE. ASEprite has a preset palette you can use for this.
Sometimes you don't have to mod a game to get t&a.
>>721559218>You had to respond to my post twiceno seriously, you're way too conceited for your own good
>>721551635Those nerds never learned to stand up for themselves so people never were aware who really made the good stuff. Games are still more associated with the publishers name not with the actual creators.Anyways, I'm having fun with Songs of Conquest.Smaller studios are back and since they are so small, they just make games they themselves enjoy.
The real problem is like 20% of the nerds trooned out and now align themselves with the people who used to hate them. And now the people that used to like them hate them. Culture is permanently fucked until we fix this.
