Why is it the best gaming CPU in the world?
>>721871919your brain
>>721871919>the bestthat would be the 9950x3d
>>721871919>>721872061>buying a cpu for gayming only
>>721871919More cache = more better
I have a poverty ryzen 7600 it runs literally everything perfectly. You don't need more. I can play 2 games at once while having a video playing with no hiccups.
is the 9600x really that far below the x3d for general gaming if you're not trying to 4K
>>721872338no one asked for a budget cpu
>>721872358The differences in CPU are more pronounced at lower resolutions; especially the 0.1% lowsBut it also depends on the game you're playing so some games show little difference while some games show a big difference
>>721872386No one needs more than a budget one for a smooth experience
>>721871919>gaming CPU>for people running so low res they're CPU bottleneckedAlso>buy AMD saarWhen Intel and Nvidia start producing together, I can't wait for Trump to declare AMD illegal.
>amd and nvidia ceos are literal cousins
it's 3d
>>721871919An i5 is all you need.
>>721872589It's just a back and forth honestly. It's damn obvious at this point that while motherboards and BIOS updates may fuck up on their own, and Intel have been shitting themselves enough for NVIDIA to sweep up the mess, that AMD and NVIDIA are just trading back and forth to underperform or excel on a cycle at this point.
>>721871919I got a 7700 and it's gud for what it is. bought it on aliexpress too, before I knew how much of a gamble that is.
>>721872997AMD hasn't been the leader in a long time. I'm not sure if they ever led since ATi was ATi.
>>721871919Certainly not AMD.Intel is still the leader in standards and single-core performance which means we get better emulator support.
>>721874813AMD is currently better in everything except for video encoding which you can up for with a 50 series gpu.
>>721874813retard
>>721871919I'll wait for the 10800x3d
>>721871919Gaming tasks tend to be less multi-threaded and really benefit from more cache.
>>721875872If you pay in cache, you look like a drug dealer.
>>721871919>bought 9800x3D on release>now poor so bought cheap $25 peerless assassin in meantimeI don't know if I should be complimenting the peerless assassin or the 9800x3D for being so fucking efficient and not getting hot at all for me to bother changing the cpu cooler now
>>721871919Does emulation (of newer consoles) still rely heavily on cpu or are they mostly gpu bound now?
>>721871919It's a bit pricey for what you get. It's only like 10-15% faster than my 7700X that goes for half the price.
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>>721871919Slowest thing a computer does it manipulate memory.More cache means doing less memory operations (load everything at once instead of a few at a time) This makes it WAY faster at applications where memory is fucked with a lot, like games.Intel still has better single core performance, but this means nothing if all those GHz are waiting around for the next game entity to be loaded into cache because it can only fit 1/4 as many as AMD.
>>721872589>they are... le cousins! that means the money goes literally to the same people and the chinese have a monopoly!!!yeah I bet you also share your earnings with your cousins you absolute retard
>>721871919>Why is it the best gaming CPU in the world?Because Intel dropped the ball so hard that the ball went through the floor and into the gutter.People found out that for the past 15 years, whenever you get BSOD... it was actually Intel's fault. But they would redirect blame to your driver or your GPU or some other shit. And everyone would believe them.They should bow down low and apologize to every computer tech that had to deal with their BSOD bullshit. Wasting everyone's time for years. Fuck you Intel.
is the 5800x3d still relevant or is it holding me back from being a true gamer
>>721875827>10800x3d11 comes after 9.
Why do you need a high-end PC? I mean, 2025's most popular game was Silksong,a 2d platformer.There are no good games in the market rn that require an expensive build to be playable.
i5 2500k
>>721872338>6 coresNot enough anymore, I'm afaraid.
>>721871919doesnt matter all games run like shit so just pick the most expensive each time
My 5800x3d is still working just fine
>>721872484Who cares about burgeristan market? Most of them buy Apple products *shudder*
>>721872884>Intel
thats 7800x3d
I THINK YOU MEANT 9950X3D!
3d cache is only good in some games. 2d cache is better for metroidvanias for example.
>>721871919Intel is better
>>721879717simulators + older games with mods, if you mod skyrim enough even a 9800x3d will struggle
7700You don't need more than that
>>721877530Wait, you don't?
>>721872061The 9950 only has 3d vcache on half it's cores so it's worse.
>>721871919As someone who has a 9800x3d, the 7800x3d is a better option. 9800x3d is just overkill. Unless you are using it for non-gaming uses like AI shit or just buying it for the sake of future-proofing your rig, there is no reason to buy a 9800x3d. I've yet to see a game where my 9800x3d used more than 50% of its CPU utilization.
>>721880715Skyrim only uses a single core so buying something like 9800 to play this pos is beyond retarded.
>>721872358If you play on 1440p or a higher resolution it is mostly the same performance because the GPU will hit it's cap before the CPU.
>>721879717>I only play only the most popular games.
>>721879717>Why do you need a high-end PC?To silence your inner child who's dreamed of a cool gonna-run-everything PC only to find out there's nothing to play other than thing you've already been playing on old hardware.
>>721880853right, ill just buy a the single core x3d chip then
>>721876123Thermalright makes very good air coolers, so you made a good choiceHonestly the only reason to get an AIO is aesthetics or space/airflow reasonsA good air cooler will do just fine
>>721871919im dumb, what is a 3dvcache and how much of a gamechanger it is? i'm currently on am4 r5 5600 and was having a gpu bottleneck on open world sloppa
>>721880834Agreed. Its a monster but for what purpose.
>>721881031I'm a noise autist and have my pc in a cupboard with push pull fans so yeah aesthetics never bothered me, I'm fine with frankenstein monster ass looking pcs as long as they perform
>>721881151All CPUs have a cache but AMD's 3D cache is basically a method of putting a bigger one in the cpu and this is accomplished thanks to their infinity fabric. A larger cache lets the cpu temporarily store more data for processing in at once and thereby increasing performance. You'll only see a difference when the cpu becomes the bottleneck. Competitive shooters for instsnce gain a huge amount of frames.
>>721872480stop with your poorfag cope. As a 9950x3d owner, theres a very real difference between owning this cpu and not. I bet you still use a 1080poverty monitor.
>>721879717>"theoretical 1% advantage in fps games"-totally not a marketer
>>721881151x3d cache is like having a luttle bit of super fast ram. games benefit from that because they have a million things going at once.
>>721874813lmao retard.>>721879143its fine for mid-tier rigs, if you have a current-gen gpu however, you will notice an improvement with a 9800x3d/9950x3d, but its not worth the upgrade cost for you, wait for the 10800x3d.
>>721882901>1440p>ultrawideIlliterate poor indian made this post
>>721879717there's loads of poorly optimised, but fun indie, A and AA developer games out there, that benefit from a top-end cpu. Especially if you don't game at poorfag resolutions.>someone makes a "whats the best gaming component" thread>poorfags, poorfag-mindset normies, and turd worlders come in and gaslight and pretend that wanting top-end parts is pointless.every single time
>>721872338>7000 series ryzen
>>721880834play Outpost Infinity Seige for ~200 hours, get to the end-endgame seige progression, then watch as literally only a 9x3d chip keeps the game above 20fps.
>>721880776"Half its cores" is equal to the 9800X3D in core count. The 9950X3D is at worst equal to the 9800X3D, but it's faster than the 9800X3D in some games that actually use more than 8 cores like Battlefield 6.The 9950X3D is like a 9800X3D and a 9700X put together. Only reason to not get it is if you don't care about the extra cores or if you aren't rich enough to afford it.Even if you disable the CCD with less cache, you get the equivalent of a top binned 9800X3D that you can overclock to higher limits than a typical 9800X3D.9800X3D is only the best gaming CPU in the world if you factor in cost for the "best" qualifier. The 9950X3D is better at actual gaming.>>721882920>games benefit from that because they have a million things going at once.Not really. Games benefit from extra L3 cache because many game developers don't care about cache line access friendliness or memory access sequences that the CPU can predict. Has little to do with parallelism, which games famously don't do much of.
>>721879717You may be surprised at how much CPU an art first 2d platformer requires. Hell, it took a LOT of patches for Hollow Knight to stop putting UE5 to shame for stutters. Of course, you shouldn't *need* such a CPU, but in reality most of your PC gaming woes just go away when you overspend on hardware.
>>721879717to play all these sweet new horribly unoptimized ue5 ports and new releases of course
>>7218719193D CPU for 3D gamesAll the other CPUs are 2D, for 2D games
>>721871919Shitty unoptimised code loves big cache. It's fixing a software problem via hardware.
>>721871919I have a 13600k and most of the time my gpu already run at 99% workload while my CPU hardly reach 40% when playing demanding games.
>>721871919because it can run project nortubel
>>7218834409950x3d in it's default state schedules cores onto the non 3d cache and destroys 1% lowsYou literally need to install Xbox game bar and or process lasso to automatically tweak it to not destroy your performance while 9800x3d is plug and play and overclockable to match the 9950x3d's higher clocks
whats a good intel cpu for gamingb
>>721884181That hasn't been an issue since the 7950X3D days (I owned one years ago when it was an issue). You can control which CCD is prioritised in the BIOS, either cache, frequency, or controlled by an OS driver.>You literally need to install Xbox game barIt's literally installed by default. It's a built in feature. This is like saying you need to install explorer.exe to get a desktop GUI on Windows, which is not how it works.>overclockable to match the 9950x3d's higher clocksOnly if you got unusually lucky with a great 9800X3D. No silicon lottery required for the 9950X3D.You also can't match the 9950X3D's higher clocks on the CCD without 3D V-Cache. This is why the 9950X3D is marketed as both for gaming and for productivity.The real problem is that some games don't care about cache and just want higher clock speeds, so you have to install Process Lasso to avoid AMD's driver forcing games to use the 3D V-Cache CCD. That's the most annoying thing about getting better performance than the 9800X3D instead of equalling it.
>>721883668Shouldn't require much any cpu unless they're using to render the sprites themselves. GPUs handle them much better specially with shaders involved. The coding for the game logic must be arrocious
>>721879143I have 5700X3D and in Oblivion remaster I had to lower the grass distance to mid settings for actually good framerate
>>721871919ZA WARUDO
>>721879717Dunno. My last PC broke and I build a relatively powerful one (including the shit in the OP) that I wish will last me as last as the previous one, but considering the most taxing thing I use it for is a 13 year old MMO, I can't help but question if I really shouldn't have just spent half the money for something less powerful.Still getting below 60 FPS in GW2 zergs by the way, although only occasionally.
>Use 7800X3D >UE5 garbage still stuttersThanks God I don't buy games.
>Poorfags in this thread not using 10950X3D
>>721888414It won't be called that, Hitler-dono.
>>721883919Kill yourself
>>721888513I think the worst thing about AMD products is because they don't make their cards have identifiable naming schemes so its easy to tell what's what. They need to start doing that in order to make it more accessible.
>>721888727Whole AyyMD marketing team should get fired.Each GPU generation has different naming scheme.Chipset names or even CPU names made to confuse the user.Normalfags can't wrap their head around that, for them it's always higher number = better.
>5800x3d
