What's their non-appeal? You'd think more people would like them, being fun games and all.
>>722403091They don’t look too good out of action.
>>722403091I recently got into the series and I'm playing through part 5 right now. 4 was the most horrible thing even, but aside from that it's great.
>>722403091the combat is repetitive and the story is for literal children
>>722404715Somehow, It's still better than Pokemon.
>>722404952Because Pokemon is just a generic "press attack to win" jrpgslop for nintendosnoys.
>>722405128AND you have to buy both versions!
>>722403253how
>>722407265Idk
>>722405225megaman did the same 2 versions of the same game with slight differences that pokemon did
Reminder we will NEVER EVER get a game about the Alpha Revolt, the darkest Mega Man event outside of the Elf Wars.It's like Castlevania 1999, it will never met the hype.
>>722403091Their non-appeal is all the paddong and backtracking. Every game is guilty of it, some more than others. *cough cough* 3 *cough cough* 5
>>722409223BN3 is the only game where it's mandatory to buy both games.
>>722410352Why?
>>722410603Mist man and Bowl chips and the last Giga chips for both games.
Don't forget.
I have completed mmbn 5 (protoman). I'm not gonna bother with the secret area, it's so tedious after 3.On to the 6th, I'll play gregar this time around
>>722410352what about the starforce games, they have exclusive modes dont they?
Finally good thread without Mayl spam
>>722409983As if being able to only select a maximum of two battlechips per turn is going to be fun in the first place.
Network Transmission is underrated
>>722412047>implying we wouldn't be playing as a souped-up scilab navi
>>722404952What do you mean “somehow”? Being better than pokémon is not an achievement.
>>722411682The post game gates in 2 have some weird PvP shit like have all 6 brothers. Outside from that, No.
>>722412047I love the random lore they dump in the background of this series.
>>722416737Why's that?
BN4-6 are fucking terrible RPGs.>6 good6's battle system kicks ass. The game itself is lousy. Only good for multiplayer.
>>722409983Good.People who ask for the backstory to be turned into actual games are retarded.>>7224103524 locks half the game behind the other version, piss off.
>>722403091The backtracking.>>722404715The combat is the best fucking part.
>>722418595lol no it doesn't.
>>722420397>6 out of 12 boss fights, 6 out of 12 forms, and 6 out of 19 tourney scenarios are locked to the other version.>lol nuhuhBitch
>>722420558You don't need Red Sun Navis chips to 100% Blue Moon.
>>722420670>The game says 100% so it doesn't matter that half the content is missing :^)Fag
>>722420798>Half of the content is 23 chips(18 megas and 5 Giga chips) and 6 souls.You're retarded.
>>722421014>Ignores scenarios and boss fights in a game where the content is almost exclusively scenarios and boss fightsDisingenuous cunt.
>>722421236Basically, you want BN4 to be in one cart like a bratty kid. Despite me saying that you don't have to buy the other game in order 100% it.
>>722421523It is on the cart.Every opposite version boss and scenario is on the cart. The game just locks it off from the player in order to sell two copies.There's nothing bratty about pointing out that a massive chunk of game is locked out for no reason other than to force double dips.
I reinstalled collection 1 and started 3 blue and a question dawned on me...what is Dex's future? Lan and the girls have a bright future ahead of them..what about him?
>>7224184546 is so easy and it's more closer to 1~3.
>>722422350Yeah but, BM doesn't lock you out for not having RS chips like BN3 does.
>>722422414It's better than 4 and 5, absolutely, but it's still a steep decline from 1-3, as much as people give 1 shit for QoL reasons.The Link Navi missions are just awful, the dungeons are boring, and the writing is pretty shit until the expo. Great combat. Bad RPG. It's a real shame.
>>722422513>Ok but [statement that is completely irrelevant to the argument at hand]Great. But did you know I fucked your mother?
>>722422560>The Link Navi missions are just awfulThey're easy as shit>the dungeons are boringJust 1 dungeon.>and the writing is pretty shit until the expoBN1 had shittier writing>as much as people give 1 shit for QoL reasons.BN1 has shitty drop rates, bad random encounter rates and bad writing
>>722422407According to the 20 years later short manga they made when the collection came out:>Lan replaces his dad as head of SciLab, Mayl is his wife and they have a son who is just Lan again>Chaud becomes the director of the Officials>Yai takes over her dad's company>Dex became a politician and was voted mayor of ACDCI think they say that last bit during BN6's ending too.
>>722422637>irrelevant to the argument at handYou need to learn how to read.>Y-y-your mum.You have to be older than 18 to post on 4chan
>>722422350>Every opposite version scenario is on the cart.Proof for this? They jada hard time fitting in everything you get already onto those cartridges, so I find this hard to believe.
>>722422975BN3 white had Shadow style in it's files.
>>722422820>They're easy as shitYeah, and painfully tedious. Absolute slog content.>the dungeons are boring>Just 1 dungeon.No, all of them. Judge Tree sucks. Weather tower sucks. Aquarium sucks. They're all very short and uninteresting. There's no attrition element that other games had.>BN1 had shittier writingI want you to actually fucking say you think Iris, Tab and Mick were better written than Mayl, Dex and Yai in BN1. I fucking DARE you to tell me Chaud and Yuichiro were better handled in 6.They're both monster of the week stories, but 1 did a good job establishing its cast and writing some good dynamics. 6's cast is cardboard.>BN1 has shitty drop ratesYes.>bad random encounter ratesNo.>bad writingBetter than 4-6 by a mile. It also had good dungeon design, a great internet that people only meme on because Area 2 is intentionally complex, great pacing, and a bunch of fun optional bosses.People really need to go back and *actually* play 1, give it a real shot instead of going through the motions and getting mad because it's different. It's a really strong ARPG.
>>722423135Shadow style is not a scenario. Of course all the forms are in both versions, how else would pvp work?You said the entire scenarios of 4 onward were shared, which seems absurd.
>>722422939>You need to learn how to read.Let me help you, retard.>4 locks half the game behind the other version, piss off.Whether the game says "complete" or not, this is true. Several game scenarios and bosses are ON THE CART and INACCESSIBLE unless both versions interact with each other. Saying "well but the game doesn't need the other version to complete the chip library" is not relevant to this.
>>722422975>Proof for this?It's a poorly explained game feature.https://www.therockmanexezone.com/wiki/Waiting_RoomIf you transfer alternate version boss navis, they will populate the game tournaments in place of YOUR version's Navis, complete with scenario and boss fight. Because Capcom are cunts, they overwrite the fights that would give you new Souls instead of repeated scenarios.You can do this on both GBA and LC. The carts had EVERYTHING on them.
>>722423412Yeah, you don't need them, Which makes you a retard for crying about Capcom being Jews.>>722423402That wasn't me, I'm fighting with these retards.>>722423291>Yeah, and painfully tedious. Absolute slog content.You can finish them in less than 5 minutes.>No, all of them. Judge Tree sucks. Weather tower sucks. Aquarium sucks. They're all very short and uninteresting. There's no attrition element that other games had.Only the Aquarium sucks, The rest are okay.>I want you to actually fucking say you think Iris, Tab and Mick were better written than Mayl, Dex and Yai in BN1. I fucking DARE you to tell me Chaud and Yuichiro were better handled in 6.Most of BN1 cast is just Capcom figuring what to do with the cast because BN1's plot was rushed.>>bad random encounter rates>No.Yeah, Go jack into Masa's comp and find out.>Better than 4-6 by a mile. It also had good dungeon design, a great internet that people only meme on because Area 2 is intentionally complex, great pacing, and a bunch of fun optional bosses.>Power plant dungeon>great internet >Good designThis is just bad bait.>People really need to go back and *actually* play 1, give it a real shot instead of going through the motions and getting mad because it's different. It's a really strong ARPG.I 100% BN1 a few months ago and it's bad.
>>722424171The fact that you're just denying reality with that other anon makes me not even want to engage with you 1v6 opinion desu
>>722424512>You>"Yai in BN1 was a well written character!"What character did she have? lol
>>722420218An ability to quickly skip encounters in places you're over level without buying sneakrun that you can only hold 5 of would be good.>>722404715The Lan sections are the weakest part of the game. Minimize it as much as possible and add some net areas like Starforce that overlay the net on top of the real world.
>>722424641Sure, I'll give you one. No more than that because I've seen how you respond already.>YaiSpoiled rich brat, know it all, spoilsport who cares too much about rules, on "kinda friends" ground with Lan but besties with Mayl, is kinda careless and her Navi has to clean up her messes.Vs her BN6 analog, Tab>Likes battle chips, wants to be friends, and ...uh.........
>>722424883>The Lan sections are the weakest part of the game.The minimization of Lan interactions during dungeons literally made the later games worse.
>>722424952Yai is just Mayl's friend and she's rich and that it for BN1. BN2 and BN3 gave her more screen time.
>>722403091There hasn't been a new BN game in like 15+ years and the story ended.
>>722425157>Just ignores factual examples to say "no but I'm right"Knew it.Tab doesn't even gave as much character as Yai does on the first day of class.
>>722409983I'm honestly fine with that. Just like with Castlevania and the Battle of 1999, it feels like whatever dev team that has to take up such a task might falter, and for us fans it would seem like a waste.
>>722423291I still like 6, but I'm with you on Lan's new friends. Like what the fuck was Capcom thinking? Mick should have been given his own unique Navi (excluding Classic's 9, 10 and 11 and Stardroids, there were about 14 RMs they could have pick). Hell, I would have given him Hard Man, to further parallel him with Dex. Tab is such a nothing person, just a Yes man, would have been funny if he was this serious business dude in the body of a kid. And Iris? Man, they played up her "mysteriousness" too much that I really don't get how she and Lan could have bonded for her to get a crush on him. As much as we make fun of Lan's buddies getting into danger, at least they were part of the story. Tab again is a nothing burger, we got some scenes with Mick (which mostly involve him and his Navi bickering) and Iris gets dumped on us at the end of the game.
>>7224269876's writing was still stuck in the 4/5 style of hyper exaggerated kodomo-media shit, focused more on "what are some things 7 year olds know" instead of telling stories. It's still crazy to me how it does a 180 in the final area.
>>722426987>>722427724It's so weird how Star Force 1 and 3 are written like the good BN entries, but then 2 is the absolute worst of the worst and isn't even consistent with the other two.
