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What does /v/ think of the Wii U?

I can't understand why it didn't sell very well considering how many amazing games it had. Sure the marketing it had sucked, but it was a Nintendo console with better games than the N64, GameCube and Wii.
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>>723172712
It was just a Wii with a shoehorned tablet that couldn't go 15 feet away without losing connection. Nintendo thought wii was more than just lightening in a bottle and the DS is what saved them from financial disaster.
That being said, soft modded, it was one of the best emulators that isn't a PC.
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it was underpowered but as a console, it was fine. Nintendoland, 3Dworld, wooly world, lego city, treasure tracker, and tropical cheese were great. The controller was fuckhuge and needed its own power supply, but I never found it uncomfortable to use or heavy, and it always felyt comftable in my hands. If it had a better library it wouldve been a modern day Sega saturn
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>>723173036
I should also mention DS emulation/roms were a godsend on it
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Gamepad should’ve been an accessory.
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>>723172712
Has several solid games that are now on Switch
The only great games still locked to Wii U are the HD versions of Wind Waker and Twilight Princess
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>>723172712
>Sure the marketing it had sucked,
>but it was a Nintendo console with better games than the N64, GameCube and Wii.
Yeah but if the former is true how would you expect consumers to know the latter?
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>>723172712
It had fantastic games, and in the end that's all that matters.
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>>723172712
Tethering the gamepad to the console was ass. Sure some games just need it, but they force you to use it for stupid reasons like changing settings or setting up the console.

Wii backwards compatibility was a big missed opportunity. A lot of games could play great on the gamepad with motion, touch controls, or a button remap system. But that would be too complicated so fuck you, it's only a screen.
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>>723172712
There's so many random things about the Wii U I hate that really offset the things I really like about it. The design of the console itself is just weird, it's a long flat box that cant stand up for whatever reason.
It's annoying and retarded that it doesn't take Gamecube discs and thus there are no ways of natively playing Gamecube games aside from modding the console, especially given that it has a fucking Gamecube inside of it, just as the Wii did. On top of that, it should've just held on to the Gamecube controller ports.
And why the fuck are Wii games fuzzier and uglier on this thing than an actual Wii when THIS has a HDMI output?
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>>723172712
It had so much potential but it sold like shit that nintendo pretty much gave up on it really early in its life cycle. Also I'm sick of retards praising it because they just simply hate the switch
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>>723172712
It has no games
The tablet lasted for 2 hours
The games nagged you to stop playing
The online was insanely laggy
The OS was insanely slow
The games were incredibly boring
The games were lacking in content or were extremely barebones (splatoon sp lmao)
The release schedule was barren
The iterative games were awful
Every game was piss easy shit for babies
It also has no games.
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>>723175681
>Also I'm sick of retards praising it because they just simply hate the switch
how does that even make sense? they have the same games
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>>723175802
>The games nagged you to stop playing
That shit was one of the most annoying things during the wii-wiiu era
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>>723175802
>It has no games

let's see the PS4 and xbone libraries
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I got one at launch and third party support immediately dried up because no one bought the games or system. The TV features were mostly removed from the console soon after. It was a pretty miserable console the whole time. You would occasionally get some games from Nintendo that mostly weren't much different from previous games they'd done. Overall it was much worse than owning a gamecube which had third party support and much more games overall. I'd probably compare it to owning a sega saturn in the 90s. I enjoyed some games on it, so it wasn't all that bad. But if that was your only console, you were absolutely fucked.
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>>723172712
Bad marketing
Nintendo had just released the Wii and thought that the sequel to the wii needed a quirky name like it, they couldn't make the Wii2, so they thought what could be the 2, so they landed on "you" the player. Thus Wii U
Now in a vacuum this sounds ok, even good maybe. but in the context of 2012, it was a fucking retarded decision

THQ had just released the U Draw Tablet for the 3 main consoles, Xbox 360, PS3 and of course, the Wii. So? you may ask. Well this confused the fuck of the costumer base when nintendo releases the Wii U, for the major population who had not seen the PR statements or the reveal of the console, when described a Wii U sounds exactly like a Wii with the U Draw tablet. People though it was just an official bundle at first. At this point you lost all the casual base that nintendo made all the money with the Wii.
The people who digged more into it found out it was the sequel to the Wii, and that the tablet was the new gimmic to surpass the waggan, the "prosumers" that had PS360s didn't buy the waggan and didn't want to buy the sequel to it. So there nintendo lost the enthusiasts. What was left was the nintendo fanboys and they did buy, but at launch the WiiU was basically an HD Wii, it felt like a mid gen update that let the "wii" play the same games as the big boys PS3 and 360.
This all could have been solved had nintendo called it something else. Wii 2. TWii, anything else would have fixed the confusion witht eh Udraw shit and made people realize it wasn't the same crap.
I am shocked Nintendo never sued whatever was left of THQ for this shit.
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>>723176363
PS4 is still getting games which is incredible. Thing is 13 years old.
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>>723176363
At least the PS4 and xbox one had third party games. The Wii U didn't had shit except a few ubislop ports
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>>723176235
Iwata's half pivot into health/lifestyle products
'member Brain Age and Wii Fit?
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The virtual boy let you turn off all the nagging at the start of every single game. You don't know how good you have it until you lose it
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>>723175802
>It has no games
>goes on to bitch about things its games did
lol
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>>723172712
>how many amazing games it had
A few weeks ago I downloaded an emulator and even with the entire catalog at my disposal, I only ended up downloading 2 games. I think you're just feeling nostalgia, the Wii U was dogshit, just like most consoles.
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>>723177330
>doesn't know what nogaems means
>defending the wii u
wii U had nogaems.
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Wii U is precisely why I didn't buy a switch. I was so pissed off because I felt like I JUST fucking bought it and they're already doing another console.
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>>723177470
funny, because TPHD is the definitive way to play twilight princess, despite only being on wiiu
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>>723177681
>TPHD is the definitive way to play twilight princess
Extremely wii u coded post, it's literally worse than the cube and wii versions. It's OK to admit you bought a Wii U, everyone makes mistakes. It's a bad thing to try to suggest others follow you.
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I'm a bit sad it didn't get a Devil Survivor or Shin Megami Tensei game (that I heard of), seems like the control gimmick would have made for a perfect COMP
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>>723177805
>it's literally worse than the cube and wii versions
how so?
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>>723174224
>had a gamecube inside it
Not quite. it is actually far more stupid
The Gamecube, Wii, PS3, 360 and WiiU were all Power PC based, this you probably know.
Now here is the retarded part. They all bought their chips from IBM who conned them into using apple's sloppy seconds after apple jumped ship to intel chips
Back in the early 2000s IBM sold Nintendo a suped up G3 processor as their Gekko CPU, how they suped it up? they removed branch prediction and added about 50 new instructions to the CPU, meaning that now you had to code BETTER than a normal CPU and feed it the bits on the exact order it worked or it would stall. No prediction and baby feeding it made it go faster than the normal Apple G3 cpu, so nintendo liked it
Here comes the seventh gen.
For some fucking reason that I can only guess it was because Sony has always been an apple fag company. they wanted their new chip to be like the G5 that apple was using.
So they went to IBM and brought their idea of an G5 like chip, after some meetings the design of the CELL BE came to be
One G5 core but with hyper threading and seven co processors that you need to offload code to make the main core work. And just like the Gekko, no branch prediction either. So have fun with coding to that.
The 360 Xenon, was pure IBM selling the design of the cell to microsoft. Microsoft saw the crazy shit that sony was going to get and decided for a Tri Core no Hyper Threading and no math co processors version of that, and of course, no branch prediction either.
So with this you might think that the Wii and WiiU are that too right? gimpped G5 cores too Right?
FUCKING NO
The Wii is just the Gekko, but with higher clocks and the WiiU is a tricore version of the Gekko, So the Fucking WiiU has a fucking Tri Core G3 with of fucking course. No branch prediction out of order design

The whole fucking 7th gen sucked at running games because IBM conned the whole industry with shitty chips that nobody wanted.
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I enjoyed both of those zelda remakes a lot and I did not particularly care for the wii u or its library. I'd play any version of those games and be happy though.
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>>723177805
How is it worse than on GCN/Wii?
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>>723172712
I started with the SNES. I kept up with every relevant Nintendo console release.

Wii-U was the worst by a wide margin. The fact everything is dependent on the gamepad which was a chore to deal with, it used a different power brick than the og Wii, plus you'd still have the cons of the Wii on top of that like forced sensor bar presence and batteries for Wii remotes. At least the Wii u pro controller was good.

It only gets worse in retrospect as more of the exclusive games get ported. Now all that's left to its name is Star Fox Zero, HD remasters of already beautiful Zelda games, and mostly outdated entries.

Then there's Paper Mario Color Splash. Nah.
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>>723178167
>its worse in retrospect because its games are available for others to enjoy on switch
???
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>>723177805
Like the only change it made was removing some of the wolf vessel shit no one likes. They should have gone further frankly and removed those segments altogether.
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>>723178402
Worse visuals, worse texture art, worse lighting, worse camera
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I remember buying a 2nd hand one for like 200 bucks one week before botw came out as it leaked online early so I didnt bother getting a Switch until years later. I never used the wiiu for anything other than botw.
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>>723178535
>worse visuals/texture art
demonstrably false
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>>723177812
SMT4 pretty much did that gimmick on the 3DS anyway. Bottom screen serves as the menu and the top screen has an animation where Flynn uses the comp while you're in the menu
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>>723178741
It's so garish and disgusting looking. They also removed the item wheel so you have to use the shitty inventory grid like it's 64 slop. TPHD is a disaster. So sorry you got scammed into buying a Wii U.
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>>723177812
I'm a bit sad it didn't get an Etrian Odyssey game. Or any DRPG.
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>>723178952
>They also removed the item wheel so you have to use the shitty inventory grid like it's 64 slop
OH NOOOOOOOO NOW I CAN SEE MY INVENTORY AT ANY TIME AND DO QUICKSWAPS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO PULL UP THE WHEEL, GOD THIS IS AWFUL
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>>723179020
Why you having a melty over one of the worst zelda games? lol This isn't going to convince people to buy wii us.
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Wii U twilight princess has no waggle, you get instant inventory on gamepad, and you can gyro aim. I thought it was fine
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>>723172712
Where do you think we are?
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>>723179087
>why are you poking holes in my retarded complaints?
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>>723178952
nta but I've never played TP or TPHD. Am I supposed to think TPHD looks worse here? Because it doesn't
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>>723172712
Gamepad was too big, often a gimmick, and half of everyone that saw it assumed it was a Wii accessory. Nintendo seriously fucked up with the Wii U.
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>>723179142
>it's a good thing the game has slower inventory management in a slow menu you have to slowly tick over to your items on instead of a quick radial wheel you can snap your analog stick to instantly
Interesting!

>>723179182
You need glasses.
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>>723179294
>the game has slower inventory management in a slow menu you have to slowly tick over to your items on
its literally persistent on the touchscreen the entire time, what the fuck are you talking about
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it's strange that anon is focusing on tphd apparently looking worse when wwhd is right there
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>>723172712
Worst part about it was the tablet was nothing more than a glorified inventory/map screen in the majority of games. Beyond crappy gimmick games no games actually used it for anything meaningful. Even the console defining games such as Mario Kart 8 and BoTW didn't use it for anything special.
Though I have to admit the remote play feature was really neat and worked great.
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I prefer twilight princess on a crt. But when I was in college I was perfectly thrilled to be able to play it with new textures on a normal tv. When I got the wii, we didn't even have fucking crts anymore so it just looked shitty and blurry
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>>723172712
It was the only good 8th gen console.
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>>723179453
It literally couldn't be anything more than a glorified DS screen. Two screens was always a retarded gimmick. Nintendo got one shot so hard by this retarded gimmick.
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>>723179453
I'm still mad they hamstrung the Wii U version of BotW by refusing to use the gamepad for anything. Especially when the UI is as bad as it is.
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>>723179334
>bro just look away from the game and stare at a shitty tablet that's going to die in 30 minutes because the battery is dogshit
No thanks!
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>>723180484
>NOOOOOOOOOOO I HAVE TO LOOK AT MY INVENTORY
youre coming off as a massive vagina
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>>723179547
The double screens for the DS worked really well with lots of games using it for things, e.g. having things span both screens. Touch controls were very novel for the time leading to a lot of never before seen things in games.
The extra screen for Wii U doesn't work because it spends all time on your lap, so having to look at it is more of an annoyance than a convenience.
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>>723180561
It helped your second screen was an inch away, unlike on the wii u where its your entire periphery away. It was still a boring gimmick on DS because nobody had any idea what to do with it.
>leading to a lot of never before seen things in games.
Extremely generous.
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I bought it for Bayonetta 2 and I think it was worth it. I remember playing Mario Kart, Wonderful 101, FE x SMT, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Smash, Xenoblade, Splatoon. Also, it was my first Nintendo console since the snes so I loved the emulation options, made me try a lot of great games of the wii and gc. Loved my Wii U.
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Inventory management is pretty much the one thing the tablet was actually good for btw. Any other good use was a rare and minor situation
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>>723180775
It's good for jerking it to porn in bed or as a tv remote
the whole thing is a joke.
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>>723172712
>how many amazing games it had
Too little too late
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>>723179540
PS4 was better and it wasn't close. Even Xbox was better when One X released.
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>>723179453
ZombieU did it really good.
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>>723172712
Last console I bought and that was back in 2013. Had fun games but
>Tablet was gimmick at best
>Underpowered as hell
>Botched marketing by Nintendo which made a lot of people think it was a Wii extension
>Console design was weird
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>>723172712
It had like 5 real exclusives From Nintendo and they almost all got ported to Switch.

The Wii U was a torturous console to own at the time. No games. Constant cancellations. Nothing to get hyped for almost every. It had no support from 3rd parties and Nintendo couldn't keep a steady flow of games to sustain it and so nobody bought the system. This worked out for Nintendo later because they could re-release all those Wii U games with more content and they felt like new games for most players on Switch.

But I owned a Wii U at the time and while I liked some of the games it was miserable to own.
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>>723172712
Calling it a WiiU is the biggest marketing mistake. They thought "We can't call it too far from the Wii, or the casuals won't get it's something they'll like".

And the casuals thought "I already have it, I already have the Wii".

Any competent enthusiast knows the value of the WiiU and the potential.
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>>723172712
The last good console
>>723178001
>One G5 core but with hyper threading and seven co processors that you need to offload code to make the main core work
Is this why so many devs found the ps3 hard to work with?
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>>723172712
I like mine. Still got it plugged in and on my desk, no less.
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I think the Wii U makes the list of "good game consoles" but it squeezes in at the bottom of "good" near sega master system.
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>>723188409
preddy much, you have one fast-ish cpu core and a bunch of coprocessors with good paper specs but are practically useless
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I just dug out and hacked my Wii U by sheer coincidence
I had zero memory of this theme but holy shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxVWDL3lqXk
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good games, shit console
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>>723172712
>What does /v/ think of the Wii U?
Neat idea but didn't do anything with it. Plus, the system was alive for so long that every Wii U game got ported to the Switch, meaning there's no reason to bother with it unless you just found a good deal on the system/games and don't have a Switch yet.

I'd say that Wonderful 101 and Pikmin 3 work better on with the Wii U second screen, but that's not enough for me to recommend buying the system just for that. Heck, the fact that most of its library got ported to the Switch shows that the library wasn't a problem.
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>>723188409
Yup

>>723190963
Not only that, but the whole chip being out of order, means that the dev HAS TO BABY BOTH THREADS AND EACH SINGLE SPU otherwise the cpu stalls and waits till the correct bit is in the correct place to keep going
If you wonder why early thirdy party 7th gen PS3 games were shit it was because it was a quick 360 port that was changet to run on a "dual core" mode instead of the tri core chip the 360 had, without even touching the SPUs to prevent them stalling the shit of the code because the dev either didn't know how or didn't want to bother with assigning the data around the bus to make it all work
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I still have mine and I'm very fond it. Multiple great titles, the proto-switch handheld was really nice when I was in college, and it's pretty low profile. I wish it was more succesful, I think tying it to the Wii and poor release titles really screwed it over.
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It's a machine that natively played GC + Wii + WiiU games.

It was objectively a great console if you didn't own the previous two. Didn't regret buying mine for a second.
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>>723173017
3ds was bad too. Terrible hardware. Peoplebonly look at it with nostalgia goggles.

Even compared to the Vita which had oled, the new 2ds have horrible tn screens ans released 7 years after the vita. Its going to have to have a mandatory screen drop in from china in the future or people won't keep buying them.
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>>723172712
Learning that if something went wrong with that tablet then the console was fucked put me off, most people didn't know what it was
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>>723178535
>Pretending that the character models didn't just look like fugly turds in the first place anyway



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