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If this ever got a video game, what would you want it to be like?
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>>723173234
I fuckin loved those books in the 90s. I think I read through either 7 or 8. Never finished the series.
Leave beloved older stuff alone, bro. I wouldn't want to see a modern game of this.
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>>723173537
I just started reading the books a few months ago. I'm up to book 4 right now, and at this point I think I might actually commit to reading the whole series.
A modern AAA would suck, sure, but I think something like a JRPG would work really well. There's also so much material for you to adapt that you could make a game out of practically any book in the series.
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>>723173234
It would be sick if it was a shooter on the unreal engine, match made in heaven. You could have so many different weapons and utility weaves, play capture the flag with the cuendillar seals etc.
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braid tugging simulator
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>>723173867
>using saidar weakens your other abilities because you're slowly getting addicted to wielding the One Power
>using saidin also does the same, but it also fucks up your health
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>>723173234
It did get one in the 90s
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>>723173981
>sniffing simulator
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>>723173867
>If this ever got a video game
Is this gay thread made specifically to bait someone into pointing out that there was a Wheel of Time game in the late 90s? Why? For what purpose? I legitimately want to know
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>>723174173
Shit, for real? Is it any good? I might play it if it is.
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>>723173234
The Warband mod but finished
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>>723174273
Honestly, I just wanted to talk about Wheel of Time with other people, but I genuinely didn't know about that game until somebody mentioned it here.
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>>723173727
>I'm up to book 4 right now
If I remember right (and I may very well not because it's been a long time) you're entering the best part of the series. I think 6 was my favorite.
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>>723174282
It was pretty unusual for shooters at the time, it had anywhere from 3~5 weapons per key bound to all the keys from 1 to 9. A weird system where all of the weaves consisted of multiple elements that had ways to counter them by either using elemental shields, swapping places with someone, bouncing stuff back like you were a mirror. A lot of the spells were split up into a variety of aimed projectiles but also auto-seeking spells that would slowly speed up. They'd almost work like a curse (and some would outright curse your ter'angreal until you cleansed them if you got hit). The seeking stuff is mostly where swap place spells and mirror stuff came into play, since if you'd swap places with another player, all the stuff locked on to you would be locked on to him now.

The capture the flag mode had a map split up in 2 themed fortresses with a midfield in between them, you'd have forsaken vs aes sedai or child of light or shadar logoth, you'd place traps like speartraps, falling pits and npc minions. It was quite unique. The single player campaign really doesn't make the greatest use of the arsenal and tools at your disposal though, but it had a couple nice maps.
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>>723174628
It's right after everybody reunites in Tear and Rand gets the sword of Callandor after finally dealing with Ba'alzamon.
It's a damn fun series. I love how up until now, Rand, Mat, and Perrin are trying to do everything to get the fuck off this wild ride, but they literally can't because they're "le tave'ren". I appreciate them having natural responses to being told that they're responsible for the fate of the entire world.
(The female characters could be better, though, IMO.)
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>>723174998
I've gotta be honest, that sounds overwhelming as fuck.
Though then again, that's really fitting for a Wheel of Time video game
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>>723175189
It helped that it was layed out in a sensible way like most projectiles on 1, 2 had most of the seeking damage stuff, 3 shields(?), 4 had the counters like swap, mirror, 5 for magic negation field stuff and then mostly utility stuff after that, like stuff that would track down where the enemy seal was since you could pick up the flag and move it around freely inside of the base
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>>723175409
You know, I think I'll try it out. Thank you, anon!
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>>723174114
>Saidin slowly turns your character insane, causing increased risks of your character having a corruption induced loss of control
>Saidar slowly causes your character’s head to get lodged up her ass, causing increased risks of your character having an Aes Sedai moment induced loss of control
It could work
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>>723175501
Hope you have fun with it, I wonder if the GOG version is patched to behave with multicores. I know I had to fiddle around a bit to make it play nice with modern pcs when I tried to replay it before the gog version was a thing.
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>>723175660
Does saidar actually do anything to you besides make you want it more? I think what you're describing is just a result of Tar Valon being what it is rather than saidar itself.
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>>723175930
Nah, I just find it endlessly amusing how fucking stupid the aes sedai are. That’s not a criticism of the books by the way, since it’s clearly intentional. Asmodean outright calling them idiots when Rand pointed out a seeming contradiction stemming from them was hilarious.
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>>723175930
Also slows your aging, though the thing that actually keeps aes sedai looking unusually youthful is a side-effect of swearing the vows on that ter'angreal
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>>723176402
The funniest thing about the Aes Sedai is seeing all the rumors about them turn out to be right not because they're actively malicious, but because they make so many stupid decisions.
>Nynaeve, Elayne, and Egwene discover where the Black Ajah went
>They deduce that it's probably a trap
>They still plan to go anyways so they can "spring the trap" to outwit the Black Ajah
>The Black Ajah STILL outmaneuvers them, and they were only able to capture two (2) of them thanks to Egwene's dream world bullshit
>All of this and they still have to be let out of the jail cell by fucking Mat
>
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>>723177068
Looking back at the series, there's also just constant bits of the author's barely disguised fetish worked into the story. I guess Robert Jordan really liked his femdom and just general dom/sub stuff. which probably also explains why there were an unusually large amount of women playing the shooter back in the 90s
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>>723173234
I think something like a Total War game could work. Playing as Rand and having to tardwrangle everyone before they get raped by tarmon gai'don and the seanchan
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>>723173234
Make it Chivalry 2 style game but solo with potential co-op but enemies are harder if you co-op requiring more tactics involved to beat them. Wasn't Wheel of Time the one with females as the sole owners of magical powers or some shit?
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>>723177682
>that whole chunk in the second book where Egwene gets damane'd and her handlers keep talking about "punishing" her
Jordan had some weird fucking tastes.
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>>723173234
Given how much Dragon Age Origins ripped off the setting, a classic bioware crpg would've worked just fine
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>>723177682
Wheel of Time was basically Gorean novels for women. Hence why it survived without backlash while Gorean novels didn't. Both where "Author's Not Too Subtle Fetish" fantasies.
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>>723177920
> Wasn't Wheel of Time the one with females as the sole owners of magical powers or some shit?
Yeah, men weren't able to wield the One Power without going insane because the Devil fucked it up.
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>>723177920
>Wasn't Wheel of Time the one with females as the sole owners of magical powers
that was how the show decided to interpret it, yeah
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>>723173234
reskinned sengoku rance
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>read all the books up until the guy died
>find out years later that some other guy finished the series
>no point in reading them because I already forgot too much of the plot I already read
was the black tower boss a reincarnated bad guy or was that a red herring? did matt invent a cannon and get blacked by the empress of the invaders?
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>>723178342
>was the black tower boss a reincarnated bad guy or was that a red herring?
red herring: he got raised into one at the end, tho
>did matt invent a cannon and get blacked by the empress of the invaders?
yes and yes
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>>723178342
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>>723178468
poor boy just wanted to bet on horse races and fuck big titty bitches but he got stuck with a bald niglet.
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>>723177920
The point was that men and women had to work together. Women having sole control lead to them becoming petty control freaks who had an entire culture of retarded hazing for literally no reason except having it done to them and wanting to lash out at someone else.
They also have a pathological obsession with manipulating people, which over the years causes them to piss off almost every single power in the land to some degree.
It’s highlighted well when one of them spends almost every waking moment manipulating the main character and is genuinely shocked when he finally snaps, tells her to fuck off and bars her from being involved in anything he’s doing.
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>>723173234
I don't know about that specific book, but Wheel of Time did get a video game
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>>723178207
While the tv series was definitely written by a bunch of feminists that like that "screaming against the patriarchy" stuff, it didn't quite go off the mark that far at least during season 1. It even gave Logain slightly more exposition for his backstory than he got in the books as far as I know. That's were the positives end though.
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>>723177682
>>723177960
>>723178063
What was with all of the bdsm stuff being lesbian, I can't remember any male/female stuff in that ballpark other than that one time Mat spanked an Aes Sedai
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>>723178912
>Thinks women don't watch/enjoy lesbian porn as well.
Sounds like a reason why it did well with women. It had non-misogynist sex with women involved.
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>>723178912
I forget didn't some of the black tower guys use the ritual on some captured aes sedai?
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>>723178912
There's also the whole Aes Sedai/Warder relationship and I think all of the 3 main lads have occasional dominant stuff with the women they're involved with.
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when are they going to turn the culture series into a game?
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>>723179185
>>723179282
I guess there is all of that but I wouldn't say it's on the level of things like the damane
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>>723179503
Definitely, but I think that's mostly just a matter of RJ dropping any pretenses of subtlety with that specific bit of his setting.
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The game was ok but I got tired of it about halfway through. Too many weapons and the maze like levels got boring, I ended up turning on god mode to run through it.
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>>723178912
There's the part late in the series where logain bonds multiple aes sedai and one of them admits that having sex with him is like being raped because they can't fight back but that's what she likes about it
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>>723178690
A line so bad, it's actually good.
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>>723178904
>didn't go off the mark that far
It's revealed in like episode 2 that any person of any sex or magical affinity can see weaves of the One Power. That alone breaks the entire universe and 75% of its subsequent rules.
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>I read these in elementary school after buying used copies for a quarter from the library used bookstore
never finished them and now I'm old as fuck. I should read the 'new' ones not written by Jordan
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>>723173537
>7 or 8
Those are the filter books. They're the most boring of the series before the story picks up for the final books, which some say are the absolute best in the whole series.
I wouldn't know, though. I also got filtered there lmao.
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Lews Therin Telamon did nothing wrong.
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>>723175046
>The female characters could be better
Memoryholed all of this and now I got PTSD about all the skirt smoothing
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>>723178739
I actually like how he ended up. He replaces his addiction to gambling with women with an addiction to gambling with massive amounts of resources and (mostly) human lives. It's not like he doesn't plap every serving girl, maid, spear maiden, and queen between the Two Rivers and the Blight before he's forced to "settle down".
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>>723173537
8,9,10 were such slogs
I think a lot of people gave up at this point
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>>723173234
Morrowind + Skyrim's magic visual effects and casting of spells. Except with the Wheel of Time lore and assets, and a BIG map.
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It was some years ago since I read it, but I still enjoy rereading the battle of Dumai's Wells once in a while.
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>Balefire an enemy
>game engine freaks out as it has to undo every action that unit accomplished in the last 5 minutes and simulate the outcome

It would be such a pointlessly complex thing to code into a game, but imagine.
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>>723179902
>>723180026
If it makes you feel better the last 4 books are predominantly attributed to Jordan with only connective tissue and a few OC donut steel characters being written by Sanderson.
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>>723174384
>Honestly, I just wanted to talk about Wheel of Time with other people,
If only there was a board on 4chan to discuss literature.
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>>723180454
I don't like the people on that board
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wait were all the Seanchan always nigs and I just missed that as a kid
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>>723180454
>If only there was a board on 4chan to discuss literature.
Are you new? Everyone knows you can't properly discuss any of the in-topic themes with the topic-related boards in 4chan.
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>>723179387

what's your favourite culture book fellow anon-mind. I like Use of Weapons
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>>723180454
You can't bring up anything there even remotely related to Sanderson or you get treated like a person talking about vidya on /v/.
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>>723180197
It was either 8 or 9 that did me in yeah, though that was also partially because there were no more books to read in the series at that time. There's just so much meandering and dilly dallying around and nothing fucking happens during those books.
>>723180309
I'm not sure, but I think the 90s shooter did the tiniest attempt of respecting that, I think if an enemy recently damaged you and you snip him out of the pattern of time you get your health back, but I might've just dreamt that.
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>>723180505
No. It's a mixed nation with origins from a bunch of different peoples migrating to a new continent for 69 generations.
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>>723179387
A 4x like Endless Space 2. An im-sim like Prey 2016, System Shock 2, System Re-Shock. FPS like Unreal Tournament or Quake 4, or Marathon.

Come to think of it, Marathon is the closest thing.
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>>723173234
i will never forget some 2010's twitter conversation regarding this series.
In which two ex tumblr users who drew shitty fanart, dismissed the books as "dudebro fantasy" without ever having read it.

Then thinking about how this poison has affected the entire publishing industry since then.

I hope self-publishing becomes more of a thing. If only there could be a Steam for books. Then maybe we can see more fun fantasy again.
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>>723173867
>>723174273
>>723178896
It's a cool game. Maybe even a bit underrated, as in nobody ever mention it but I would recommend it.
It as a really cool atmosphere, especially that "ruined dimension" or whatever that shit is. I've never read the book and didn't really follow the in-game story.
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>>723175046
Pretty much every woman in this series is a bitch of the highest order except maybe Min, but at least a lot of them end up paying for it. Except Egwene, she's basically a Mary Sue.
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>>723181164
It’s a real pity that it’s mostly a hive of shitty litrpg at the moment.
Sure you get the odd book about how genocide is arguably the morally correct option if a pissed off parent is protecting his family, but so goddamn much of it seems like a spirited effort to copy every shitty isekai out there.
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>>723178912
For the damane, it only really makes sense for women to be the damane's handlers because they're the only ones who can wield the One Power without going insane.
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>>723181226
The section with Machin Shin is neat and I always loved the games' Shadar Logoth maps both in single player and multiplayer.
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>>723180610
>Sanderson
i hate this fag and his gay fangirl fanbase
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>>723178765
>It’s highlighted well when one of them spends almost every waking moment manipulating the main character and is genuinely shocked when he finally snaps, tells her to fuck off and bars her from being involved in anything he’s doing.
To be fair, Moiraine specifically grew up in Cairhein nobility, so she was brought up having to learn how to manipulate people so she wouldn't get a dagger in her back.
Most of the rest of the Aes Sedai are fucking jobbers, though
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>>723179387
player of games was basically space civilization on crack
boggles my mind this dude could write about a post scarcity society and not point out it required the robots to be basically the main reason why it could be that way at all because it was pretty clear every meat puppet aka human or human basic wasnt doing shit to uphold the status quo
even their secret ops arm of culture was basically a busy work game for everyone and everything that participated in it
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>>723173234
I'd rather like to play as a charming rogue who when caught stealing from a wizard is trapped and compelled to go track down another rare magical artifact by a parasite that will destroy his internal organs if he refuses the quest, and get into all sorts of crazy scenarios along the way. Magic will not be limited to the standard set of dnd spells, because it can be used as a creative device to weave interesting narratives. We need more creativity and whimsy, not 'firebolt single target dps, fireball aoe projectile, color spray cone'.
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>>723181625
And this is why we're doing it here. Get over it
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>>723181774
Because they're thrown together on the cheap by some fag with Photoshop and some stale images, or probably AI now. Back in the day they hired legit artists to do them.
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>it's an elayne chapter
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>>723181774
Literally just the definition of soulless
>actual image has absolutely nothing that actually tells you what series it is or what it might be about, just a generic shot of a landscape
>space wasted on "NOW AN ORIGINAL SERIES ON PRIME FUCK YOU VIDEO"

I literally wouldn't even be able to tell you what genre this is supposed to be if I didn't know. If I saw this on a shelf I wouldn't even pick it up to read the blurb on the back.
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>>723181438
Being honest here, Nynaeve is probably my favorite female character out of the bunch. I appreciate her being as sick of all the prophecy/Aes Sedai bullshit as the rest of the ta'veren.
I personally think Min's great, but she just doesn't have that many great moments up to book 4.
>tries her damndest to free Egwene from the Seanchan
>after the battle at Falme she immediately shits on her for joining the Tower
Like, sure, Egwene deserved it, but Min's own love for Rand just feels out of nowhere. I hope that'll improve along the rest of the series.
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>>723178063
Well the Gor novels are just straight up porn. It's just women being enslaved.
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>>723179757
>Logain becomes relevant again
What the fuck?
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>>723182440
elayne was fine
it was when it centered on nyaneve or egwayne that it started to drag a bit
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Rand wished Matt or Perrin were here
Matt wished Perrin or Rand were here
Perrin wished Ran or Matt were here, either of them would know what to do
Nynaeve sniffed
Focus, sheepherder
The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills
Luck, bloody luck
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I want to get back to reading again, but I went over to /lit/ and that board is scary. I'll stick to vidya for now.
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>>723182827
I loved the running gag where Rand, Mat, and Perrin keep assuming that the other two knew how to talk to women a lot more than they did.
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hello I'll ask here on the chance that anyone knows since /lit/ would just make fun of me for reading ya genreslop. I'm trying to remember this fantasy novel I read back in the early 2000s when I was reading stuff like wheel of time and sword of truth. all I remember though is that one of the main characters was a mercenary guy named tanner or turner or something who hung out with prostitutes and one of the antagonists was some princess who had a chastity belt but used magic to take it off. it was a lot trashier than wheel of time and I think maybe it had a female author writing with a male pen name.
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>>723182827
THE BRAID
YOU TUGGED IT
WE CAME
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>>723182818
I really couldn't bring myself to care about her sitting in her room talking about what could happen in Andor in the near future for a hundred pages. Also muh pregnancy.
>>723182827
Nynaeve didn't tug on her braid?
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>>723182981
You might as well read what you want to read for your own enjoyment. You can always just talk about what books you like outside of 4chan.
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>>723182163
Blacktongue Thief? It's about a guy who can't refuse a request or his guild can brand him with a sigil that lets anyone rape him because he's a debt slave to a guild of perverted Jews bent on taking over the world. They orchestrate what are essentially terrorist attacks to advance their agenda.
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>>723182440
Better than Egwene
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>>723173234
A mobile cash-grab like Game of Thrones : Kingsroad is the only thing that would do it justice.
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>>723182981
Try out The Blade Itself by Abercrombie. I really enjoyed that whole trilogy as a "get back into reading" series. Really compelling characters and the chapter by chapter pacing made it really easy to blast through a lot or just read one or two depending on the mood/time.
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>>723183030
>>723183064
Read on, fellow readfriends <3
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>>723182786
You haven't reached the part where Nynaeve learns how to fix Severing, I take it?
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Okay, but was Tuon a mesugaki?
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>>723183370
I'm on book 4, anon...
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>>723183429
Shouldn't be reading spoilers then, nigga
Sorry
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJtFXTIEwYQ
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>>723182990
I cant recall.

Im trying to think of one where a guard tackles one of the bad guys off a cliff to save his party as they are being captured.
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>>723183380
I don't see why not, wheel of time was basically an anime
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>>723182786
Not *that* relevant. Sanderson's OC gets to do all best sidequests.
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>>723182786
It's actually pretty cool. You'll wish the black tower got more story
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>>723183429
keep it up champ
4 is actually pretty good
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>>723183752
>>723183380
>Nynaeve is a Tsundere
>Min is literally a tomboy
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>>723182827
Blood and ashes, anon
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>>723183857
Aviendha was way more of a tsundere
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>its an aes sedai chapter
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>tfw I spent a week in solitary confinement and the book cart had books 4 and 5 of wheel of time but none of the others
>nothing to do so I knocked them out in a day each
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>>723173234
a rtwp rpg with tactical use od spells like dragon age. would take place before the books and have a band of misfits thwart a darkfriend plot. second option would probably be a kotor-like
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>>723183335
Thanks, I'll give it a try.
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book 9 was satisfying...there I've said it.
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>it's a mat chapter
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>>723182827
Light, Rand, what are we gonna do?
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>>723183767
>Not *that* relevant. Sanderson's OC gets to do all best sidequests.
God I hate "roland".
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>>723173234
I would want it to be less fucking boring.
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>>723182827
I like all of these
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I must have read like 8000 pages of this shit and I you could fit all the memories I have of them into less than a full sentence. "Guy MC learns magic plus witch women"
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>>723183767
I've dropped his cosmere books at stormlight 4...how much worse does it gets?
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>its a perrin chapter
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>>723184868
nah its more to it
rand finding out the secret made the whole slog worth it for me
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>read through Mistborn
>kinda enjoyed it
>quickly check what other things the author made
>Wheel of Time
>recognize the name, start reading it
>style is different but enjoy it
>took several books before I realized he wasn't the original author
>last books made it even more obvious
I'm not a clever man.
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>>723185020
You read the whole fucking series before realizing it wasn't written by Brandon Sanderson?
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>>723173234
Like the Witcher, but if you're playing a spellcaster you use the shoulder buttons to modify which weaves you're using when casting a spell, with the 5th element being your character's default (men being earth or fire and women being wind or water).
You've got a sanity meter and a reputation meter; using magic as a male hurts both, and you can't recover sanity lost this way; cleansing Saidin removes the sanity penalty on using magic as a man, but doesn't recover the lost sanity.
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>>723185020
Mistborn is a weird series. Each individual book is mediocre, but the payoff from finishing the trilogy is 10/10.
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>>723182604
Her insisting she be left alone with her husband so they can fuck after they get married is great.
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>>723183857
>>723183984
Everyone in the WoT world is a tsundere
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>>723176491
Making that oath also tanks the regular longevity of those who use Saidar, with that one woman casually dropping that she is 400+ and the Aes Sedai being surprised about it.
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>>723185130
I wouldn't admit it outside of an anonymous video game board, but yes.
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>>723185373
apart from egwene. She's just a power hungry psychopath
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>everything about damane
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>>723185231
I think that's Sanderson in a nutshell desu, his characters are subpar, but the storylines usually crescendo well. Also helps that the character at the epicenter of that particular story is actually pretty good
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Asha'man!
Kill!
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I WIN AGAIN, LEWS THERIN JANNYMON
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>>723173234
it needs to have spanking
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>>723185894
>that scene in the second book showing all the different lives Rand could've had and how he loses to Ba'alzamon every time
Absolutely kino. With how much Rand was trying to run away from the title of Dragon Reborn and all the bullshit Tar Valon had in store for him, the realization that this was literally the best timeline for the world would've been mindbreaking if I was in his shoes.
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There's a Wheel of Time MUD (multi-user dungeon, text based) that's been up since the early 90s

https://wotmud.info/wotmud-online-web-client/
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>>723185894
>Listened to the audiobooks
>Rear this in Michael Kramer's voice
heh
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>>723185729
I like Sanderson for the world building and plotting he does, as you said it's the build up and crashing together of the plot lines of a book (or series) that really makes his stuff enjoyable, but you really need to like at least a few characters in any given story. I've also felt that any individual book in a series never really feels like a complete story, which is a little upsetting for me. I can also see why some people would be put off by his prose as he's often pretty modern with his dialog.
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>>723185894
The amazon series could instantly be turned into kino if they edited the last episode to end with this.
All the pants on head retarded beats instantly become part of Rand's torment.
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Once, I cleansed the world with fire and lightning. Now, a man cleans this board for free, sweeping filth not of the Shadow, but of men’s own making. Does he not see? The taint lingers still, and no amount of scrubbing will scour it clean. Burn me, perhaps he is the sanest of us all.
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>>723180505
No, the Seanchan
>>723181460
/lit/ has a general for making a career out of writing, and their advice is that slop is the only way you'll ever earn a living.
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>>723184885
Depends. I like a lot of the stuff, but there's some stuff I assume most people on /v/ would get mad about.
Renarin gets in a gay cross species romance with Rlain, and Shallan basically squees about it.
Hoid/Wit explains that what Kaladin is doing for the mentally ill is called therapy, so Kaladin starts calling himself a therapist. Kaladin then pretty much doesn't fight until the end of the book.
But despite all that, I'm hopeful for the future of the series. I assume these changes are due to the editor for the first few books getting replaced, and they can always get replaced again, especially since it's going to be a long while before Stormlight 6 gets written, let alone released.
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I may just be a sucker for slop, but having an Ai model write several pages with Rand showing up at the Pelennor Fields to aid mankind, his eventual confrontation with Sauron and the use of balefire to win the battle in the end makes me feel happy.
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>>723182604
I like Nynaeve too, but she is for sure a bitch for a good amount of the story. However, unlike Egwene she gets humbled hard for it. There's an entire book where all are scenes are basically one humiliation after another.
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>>723184885
Book 5 is atrocious. I have low standards by /lit/ measurements and actually enjoyed books 1-4. I was incredibly disappointed after I finished 5. It's maybe one of the worst books I've ever read.
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>start fantasy novel
>love interest has black hair
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>>723187506
You haven't read much, have you?
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>>723186369
Fucking kek
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>>723185020
I did the same, read all of sanderson stuff published at the time, read WOT to see if I could notice the author change, fell in love with it and now I don't even care about sanderson stuff anymore.
Currently doing a reread, book 12 and sanderson constant use of downright is downright annoying. Still, his rands chapters are great most of the time.
>>723187101
God damn, I was thinking of going back too, I gave up after book 3, it turned into 'mental illness' the series and it is clearly from that tumblr era where you were a nobody if you didn't had at least 3 conditions but did they seriously start talking about therapy
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>>723184885
>how much worse does it gets?
This is a real, unabridged section of text from Wind and Truth by the critically acclaimed author, Brandon Sanderson
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>>723173234
Its had games on the NES.
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>>723187460
Fucking kek. Reminds me of when I was fooling around with ChatGPT making Doomguy team up with Gandalf to kill a Balrog.
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I tried to read these for the first time a few years ago and made it to book 9 before I gave up and read internet summaries of the rest of the books. I've read a lot of older fantasy and scifi and I'm not normally bothered by this sort of thing (I rarely notice it at all) but the man/woman stuff in WoT drives me up the fuckin wall. The world is actively ending and all the wizards are sitting around a firepit doing "Take my wife, please" and other similar comedy bits. I understand that they're reluctant heroes but all they ever do is bitch to each other about their relationships in a way that reminds me of old dead comedians.
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>>723187714
>it turned into 'mental illness' the series
Anon, you may be retarded, but it was always that from the start.
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>>723187582
I've read a lot of fantasy. I was invested in the events of Stormlight book 4 only to get assfucked by the full cast and story assassination of book 5. Kaladin is the only one who sort of has a good resolution.
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>>723187539
>love interest
>he doesn't know
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>>723173234
A game where you can fold your arms under your breast and angrily tug your braid while making sexists remarks toward every male.
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>>723187959
Nynaeve...
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>>723187887
I'll admit it took me a bit to notice it, when I finished book 2 I remember jokingly thinking the 3rd one would be about dalinar having some mental health issues too, then it came out and I realized I just read the adventures of depression boy, bipolar girl, and regret man.
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>>723187959
While at the same time pining for that manliest guy in the setting.
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>>723187894
>I've read a lot of fantasy.
Wind and Truth isn't even the worst Cosmere book. There's way worse shit than this.
I actually liked Adolin's plot more than Kaladin's, but over all I enjoyed the book. I really wish the whole Shallan, Renarin, Rlain's whole sections were different though.
Either way, it's pretty clear that all the Era1 characters are going to be more of secondary characters with Lift and younger characters being the new main ones, so we probably won't have to deal with them as much.
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>>723187837
Having the Doom Slayer showing up in Lord of the Rings from Saurons perspective is always kino.
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what was the name of the guy that wrote these kinds of fantasy novels that adopted and tortured children with his wife being in on it
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>>723188190
Remember, duty is heavier than a mountain, death lighter than a feath-AAHHHHHH, MY NIPPLES, THEY HURT!
THEY HURT WHEN I TWIST THEM!!
AHHHH
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>>723178739
>stuck with a bald niglet.
Wait, I thought she was a bald asian. Were all the Seanchan negro and that somehow escaped me when I read that shit in highschool?
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>>723187846
The fuck are you talking about, is this some llm slop? What wizards, there is only one male channeler and he is one of the few who doesn't really complain about his wifes, other than he can't push them away
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>>723187959
>t. nynaeve
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>>723187959
I can't decide if Jordan worshipped women or hated them, the story is full of bitches with tons of power but most of them end up looking really bad and petty or get bodied by men the moment they start getting access to magic again.
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>>723188289
I also liked Adolin. Everyone else got completely fucked. I tried reading the mistborn western novels but couldn't make it past the first one. That one was probably worse than anything in Stormlight.
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im just happy tv series killed entire franchise
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>>723188450
He probably had a normal opinion of them and wrote a diverse cast of women to portray many types of personalities.
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>>723188450
I'm only on book 4, so I might be completely off the mark, but the message I'm getting from the series is that men and women need to work together and understand each other in order to bring out the best in each other. I mean, shit, when Egwene first learns about the Breaking of the World and comes to the conclusion that men were responsible for the absolute state of the world, Moiraine is eager to shut that shit down instantly.
I do think a lot of the way women act are just because of how gender relations work in the world of Wheel of Time due to the Breaking.
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>>723188668
Too bad almost all of the main women have the same tsundere sort of personality at best, and are complete bitches at worst.
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>>723188450
He clearly had a fetish for taking bitchy cunts and breaking their wills
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>>723188814
>the way women act are just because of how gender relations work in the world of Wheel of Time due to the Breaking.
Never attribute good world building to bad writing.
Everyone always tries to reason shit writing into good writing, when its usually because the writer or writers were a buncha dumbshits.
Sometimes the curtains are just blue.
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>>723188450
Neither, he simply knew them and wrote them as they would behave according to the setting.
Except the maidens, that was pure fantasy but come on spear ladies are always cool

>>723188573
There are no endings to the turnings of the wheel of time

>>723188814
That is pretty much right, most of the series is trying to get people to understand each other, not just men and women, but all the factions.
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>>723181438
Moiraine grew on me after a while because while she was Aes S*dai, she had Rand's best interests in mind as opposed to the rest of Tar Valon. Nothing felt better than when him and his Asha'man showed those retards what they were actually dealing with then being told to kneel or be knelt.
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>>723188814
Careful. Board culture prohibits humanization of women. The answer you were supposed to give was " Jordan, like me, hates holes and wants them all dead when they're not fucking me."
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>>723189013
She was pretty much the only one who grasped that constantly trying to manipulate someone with severe trust issues might be a bad idea.
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>>723188909
Dude there's like 100 female characters. There is a lot a sass in general but the personalities vary quite a bit.
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I'll never forgive Amazon.
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The sky above Dumai’s Wells was a storm of fire and madness.
Asha’man screamed as they wove death, Saidin roaring like a hurricane.
Ashandarei glittered, wolves howled, Aiel died by the hundreds. The earth itself shuddered under the weight of the One Power unleashed.
And then, something wrong entered the Pattern.
It wasn’t saidin. It wasn’t saidar. It wasn’t anything the Wise Ones or the Asha’man could feel.
The air folded open near the blackened corpses of Shaido. A boy stepped out, slender, dark-haired, wearing a school uniform spattered with chalk dust. A crooked smile carved his face like a scar of irony.

“Ah... I see,” he murmured, looking at the slaughter. “Another world where power means nothing but who can kill the most people. How nostalgic.”
An Asha’man whirled on him, eyes blazing. “Who are you?!”
Kumagawa Misogi only smiled wider. “Someone who doesn’t belong here.”
He lifted a hand. There was no glow of the Power, no saidin, no weaves. Yet the Asha’man simply... ceased. No explosion. No flame. No scream. Just gone, erased from existence, as though the Pattern had been corrected and he had never been born.
Around him, wolves whimpered and slunk away. Aiel faltered, spears trembling. Even the air seemed to hold its breath.

Rand al’Thor turned, feeling that impossible void, something more terrifying than the True Power itself.
“What are you?” Rand demanded.

Kumagawa tilted his head, that mocking grin never fading.
“Just a loser who likes to make sure everyone else loses too.”

The world bent. Balefire streaks curved into nothing. The threads of the Pattern tried to reject him, and failed.
For the first time, Lews Therin whispered in Rand’s head with something that sounded like fear.
“He shouldn’t exist. Light, he shouldn’t exist!”

Kumagawa stepped closer, looking up at the Dragon Reborn with mild curiosity.
"Don’t worry. I won’t take your world from you, Rand al’Thor. It’s already doing a fine job destroying itself.”
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>>723189221
She was even willing to sex him up after her vision quest in Rhuidean if that was what it took. A true mommy.
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>>723189385
Jesus Christ how horrifying
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post you're favorite character
pic semi-related my actual favorite is Mat
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>>723189737
For me it's Demandred.
His constant failure amuses me.
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>>723189737
I didn't really like Mat early on, but I think he was my favorite at the end.
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>>723189737
As a side-character, Gaul was probably my favorite. Something about him and Perrins friendship really stuck with me.
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>>723189737
I'll skip the obvious ones and go for my favorite secondary, siuan sanche, love her and her fishing related expressions.
Bayle domon is also great.

>>723190097
Mat is such a dumbass the pattern had to give him his luck otherwise he would be a handicap to the light.
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>>723190637
I cant tell if that's supposed to be a mulatto or a white negroid
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>>723190637
One of these characters is supposed to be Elaida, a character who was specifically descibred as having an amazingly dainty looking face.
can you guess which one she is?
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>>723190990
Anon, show elaida is not in that poster
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>>723187728
>well, THAT just happened
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>>723189006
That may be true, but I do it so I can just get more enjoyment out of a work.
Things can take on a life on their own without the author's intent. Just look at that one Super Mario World ROM hack /v/ was talking about the other day and how disappointed some people were about the author making it into an actual story.
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>it's a perrin chapter
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>single player TES style RPG
>start as a nobody
>can influence the rest of the story by your actions
>can become a king or keep being a mob
>only low magic available for you
Sounds utterly stupid now that i've typed it out but this is why i'm not a game designer
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>>723177068
My favorite thing about the Aes Sedai is that they all become massive cunts the second another woman is right about something in a 10 mile radius.
>Hmm, perhaps... Perhaps we should not do exactly what the enemy wants, sisters...
>Yes, that's a good idea. (This presumptuous strumpet! How dare she! How FUCKING dare she? I'll string her up and spank her until her bottom is so red the cock crows thinking it's dawn! In all my days, I've never seen such a brazen display of cuntsmanship! Oh, the other sisters will be hearing about what a two-faced BITCH Stacey-sedai is!)
>fixes skirts
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>>723177682
1. Submission
2. Spanking
3. Domination
4. Bimbo-ification
Am I missing any of Jordan's fetishes?
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>>723182440
I honestly hate Elayne more than Egwene. Nyvaeve at least chills the fuck out when she finally gets dicked down by Lan.
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>>723182827
>smooths skirts
>raises hackles
>sniffs loudly
>spanks you
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I hadn't read WoT at the time that this happened. Did anyone ever make a WoT edit of it?
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>>723173234
you'd have to either do an ARPG soulslike, or a Total War inspired RTS. Or maybe a cringy romance sim but i'd never play that.

If you did an Uncharted style movie-game, you'd need to make 50 of them to finish the book series, so i doubt that'd ever happen. Frankly this is a setting that is poorly suited to vidya, its just too long, Berserk is unironically shorter than Wheel of Time, and how few games are made for that series?
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>>723173727
the series dips a bit in quality around books 8-9 or so, but stick with it anon, the last ~4 are incredible, and the finale is the best and most complete in fiction imo.

>>723192932
Elayne is a literal drama queen and is funny as shit sometimes anon. Egwene was pretty unlikable at times for sure, but her arc was great in the end.
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>>723190637
a post with a blank image. curious.
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>>723178912
dont forget one of the forsaken literally used human furniture for her amusement. Lanfear was also a freak iirc
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>>723190637
>the entire point of Rand living in the Two Rivers is that it's an isolated little village out in the countryside where everyone looks the same except for the 6'10" ginger who looks suspiciously like the race of invaders who crossed the spine of the world years and years ago
>make it more ethnically diverse than modern day San Francisco
>also give Perrin a wife
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>>723174273
Nah man even Wheel of Time fans seem to have no clue it had a decent to good fps game ages ago.
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>>723190637
i swear they almost deliberately tried to piss off the entire book fanbase with every single casting for this show.

>hehe, time for Lans casting, how should we ruin this one guys?
>get an aged twink asian guy who's probably a bottom irl to play the most badass man in the entire show? who wont work out for the role past a lazy otterman mode?
>sounds great!

Fuck i hated that show.
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>>723193234
A Fire Emblem-esque TRPG would work well. There's a hundred different characters who would make for good hero units, and you're constantly cycling them in and out over the course of books. There's tons of set piece encounters in the books that get glossed over in a few paragraphs (which I actually like) which people would still want to reenact.

Seriously, imagine a defense mission where you have to defend Rand cleansing the source, or a mission where you have to work your way through the Stone as Rand when it's attacked, etc.
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>>723193592
turn based cringe is boring as hell anon, and the magic systems would not translate well, terrible idea.
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>>723192630
Which ironically makes it even easier for the Forsaken to infiltrate Tar Valon. All they had to do was make Elaida have woman moments to completely fracture all the different Aja's.
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>>723192710
Men's calves
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>>723188178
The entire point of the Knights Radiants is that spren find people matching their Order's ideology and fill in the cracks in that person's soul (caused by trauma) and fills it with their power, giving the bonded powers and rooting the spren in the Physical Realm, where it would normally be unable to think until the events of the 5th book.
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>>723178765
I liked Morraine, she was great character
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>>723179757
Logain was another great character, sadly mostly irrelevant alter
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>>723173537
>Never finished the series.
You ought to, BrandoSando did it justice, though you can really tell in some parts when he's the one writing instead of Jordan.
It's absolutely hilarious whenever Mat, Perrin, and Rand finally accept that they're Tave'ren and decide to flex it for all it's worth.
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>>723180610
>Sanderson
i wish I could baleafired him
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>>723180505
no, they are multicultural and ethic empire, some of the royal family are mixed race more or less
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>>723182163
Jack Vance was the best fantasy writer and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. His only weakness was he didn't give a shit about self promotion, dude just operation on pure passion. I remember a memoir from his publisher remarking how he never went to events or industry parties with other authors and instead just chose to stay at home and sail on his boat. Legend.
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>>723178739
>fuck big titty bitches
He did get to fuck a MILF for a while, and her son was 100% down with it, good bros with Mat.
But she was way kinkier than his podunk ass could imagine and that scared him.
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>>723182818
>elayne was fine
she is dumb rich bitch that make everything worse
she is walking disaster
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>>723183230
egwene chapters have siuan and layne and some other scheming around and some shenanigans, egewene may be 200% cunt bit elayne is retarded cunt
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>>723188814
That's exactly it.
You'll get to a part where the Head Honcho Aes Sedai uses a fish metaphor to explain how a proper Circle is supposed to work.
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>>723189737
One of my favorite parts in the later books was how whenever she and Galad were in the same room together, you could almost smell the musk coming off the page.
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>>723191643
>perrin
never resolved, failed arc
giga waste of time
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>>723187728
grim
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>>723187728
I gave up when they got super healing and became Dragonball characters.
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>>723196456
You don't understand, it was popular at the time
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>>723177068
It gets even funnier when you realize the one that escapes goes on to try and capture elayne and elayne DOES THE SAME FUCKING THING only worse because rescuing her gets a fuckton of soldiers balefire'd.
The women in this series are something else man.
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>>723200434
Black Ajah... I kneel.......
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>>723189006
>Never attribute good world building to bad writing.
>Everyone always tries to reason shit writing into good writing, when its usually because the writer or writers were a buncha dumbshits.
>Sometimes the curtains are just blue.
It is purposeful good writing though, that's why he made all of his countries so distinct with the same setups (strong points/weak points, ways they did things better than their peers, cultures that lacked flaws of other cultures) he treated the differences between men and women the same way.
He also had enough experience with power structures to understand how power is used and how it is abused, how it was held and how it was lost.
Aes Sedai are just what happens to entrenched power structures over time, they get too used to being able to get their way and become complacent and arrogant.
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>>723203586
All in all I have to give the Aes Sedai credit where it's due.
They've lost more than half their power and more is being forgotten each day, they're a bunch of backstabbing shrews, and they're being subverted by devil worshippers who are gearing up for the End of Days.
And despite all that, they've still managed to hold things together for the last thousand years or more.
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>>723173234
>bitchy women bitching at you: the book
lol no, it definitely would be for modern soi gamers though.
I prefer Lord of the Rings. Only real good fantasy book to ever come out.
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>>723203949
>And despite all that, they've still managed to hold things together for the last thousand years or more.
To an extent they did not do that though. As an example Artur Hawkwing was more responsible for holding things together than they were and he ended up sieging the tower out of spite. Which means we have to take a guess here was it the pattern spinning out Ta'veren that held things together or the Aes Sedai?
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>>723177682
His wife was his editor. They probably had alot of fun together.
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>>723180026
I got filtered by the fact that the ones after I finished hadn't been written yet.
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>>723174114
Saidar isn't a drug and it doesn't fuck you up. Holding power for the fuck of it is dumb though. Saidar fucks up reality. A little anomaly from your bullshit weave will dissipate but you can scuff your foot one some rug with a weave on it or whatever. Anomalies might manifest or it might just leave different varieties of reality dissolution which is bad shit, which is why gateways are done very carefully and outside.
Also Saidin is just as restorative for your body as it's cleansed. Raw power is just a mild anti-aging drug unless you can leverage it more intensely and overcome the "you can't heal yourself" rule.
Anyone can try and learn, if you want to fuck around and find out.



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