>>738070872
>DLC is a prequel about a character no one cared for in a game no one liked
No wonder it was a flop.

>what's next for vampire the masquerade?
A return to it's CRPG roots hopefully. Disco Elysium bur vampires is needed

>>738070947
>Disco Elysium bur vampires is needed
wow sounds horrible

>>738070872
the era of post-release DLC is dead
no one wants to wait a year plus to get the actual full experience
these devs failed to read the trend

>>738070872
>what's next for vampire the masquerade?
my text game, be on the lookout when it drops in couple of years

>>738070872
>>738070947
As long as world of darkness is stuck with paradox it has no future. Bloodlines lost the them millions so maybe theirs some hope but white wolf exist in name only so even if paradox collapsed i'd basically be controlled some randos starting from scratch.

>offering pre-orders caused a rube goldberg machine of game development that ended in a flop nobody cares about
thank you paradox

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>>738070947
>Sir 4chan, anonymous man of genius, what is the future of our imsim vampire rpg?
>Gay communists and no gameplay.
>Ah, yes, brilliant sir! Thank you!

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>>738071521
so you're saying I shouldn't get my hopes up for picrel?

>>738070872
Paradox is catching Ls a lot, lately. So my guess would be: nothing. They will sit on ip and occasionally release a vn or something

>>738071449
Ok anon:)

>>738070872
Why would anyone care after the base game was objectively dogshit?

>not even shitposts
Bloodlines really has fallen, huh?

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>>738072475
here you go anon for old times sake

The DLC is kinda thin and was clearly made on a shoestring budget. It primarily appears to exist to help justify the dev time used for adding melee weapons to the game (the combat has been significantly revamped) and the upcoming patch that adds guns to the game sometime around June. Then there will more patches and possibly another DLC in the second half of the year.

if the DLC isn't 10 hours of getting pounded by Jeanette's futa cock I don't care

>>738070872
>what's next for vampire the masquerade?
Bloodlines 2 will continue development until the end of the year. There's a new VN that is coming later this year, too.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4191110/Vampire_The_Masquerade__Oaths_and_Ashes/

>>738071449
What's the title you are going with?
I'll leave a note to remind me of it.

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>>738070872
There was a DLC?

>>738072550
>Furry, Gay, Islamic, Feminist Vampire.
Holy shit, this is some master class shitposting.

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>>738072676
Damsel, aka VTM's Glup Shitto, shows up for another cameo. Basically to explain how Benny got captured.

>>738072809
Haven't decided yet, feel free to come up with something and i will use it if its ludo

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>what's wrong
everything
>what's next
nothing

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>>738072550
A classic.

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>>738072550
>no, make it more...
>ppppppphhhhhhhhssssssshhhhhh

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>some scrawny, schwarty, "white-ish" hipster dude with facial acne scars and a beard drawn on with a marker pen is the sheriff of Bloodlines 2
Why? How?

WoD will forever be landlocked to TTRPG formats and that’s a good thing because none of you illiterate faggots deserve this absolute peam. Nearly 80% of splatbooks could be converted to $40 AA projects with a competent team, but no, gamers want le AAA production, which is antithetical to a bespoke tabletop experience catered and essentially cowritten by 3-6 of your friends.

>>738073470
Shut the fuck up, tranny.

>>738073470
This anon is right, gamers are cattle

That new Hunter game looks promising

>>738071827
>Gay communists and no gameplay.
but they already made bloodlines 2

>>738073470
No idea what you're sperging out about.

>>738070872
What went wrong is that they don't want to do the things that made the first Bloodlines appealing, so whatever they do will inevitably end up being shit.
Whether they could if they wanted to is a separate issue.

>>738072550
>misogynistic elders
I am sorry, is that a new lore? I thought vampires don’t care about sex? And it should be the case, vampires don’t have hormones to drive one’s behaviour, a male vampire and female vampire should have exactly the same mental capacity if they had similar experiences at the time of embrace

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>What's next for Vampire the Masquerade
Another fuckin' shitass 2 hour DLC and then Final Death.
Side note for those who may not know, Blood Hunt, that Battle Royale game recently went ahead and EOS'd
Press F to piss, I guess.

>>738072475
it's not even bad in a way that's fun to mock. it's painful remembering the catty "let people put whatever they want in their body" line

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>>738073558
What’s wrong? None of your friends want to see you once a month? Is that TOO HARD? Why is it that when you hear about tailoring a game to your exact tastes, the first thing out of your mouth is becoming a woman? What an odd outburst.

>>738073890
So the Ysabella DLC will be 2 hours of telling the blood doll she's a retard and trolling Safia, but there is a third DLC involving Niko that is apparently in development.

The unannounced third DLC seems to be why the second DLC got pushed forward from Q3 to Q2.

>>738073838
That even the LARP source books for WoD mog anything they have made since V:tMB.

>>738074314
They're making a 3rd?!
Goddamn, being a game developer must be hell. 100s of hours working on a DLC, just for some YouTuber to call it shit and make more money on that video than you got paid for making the DLC.

>>738072475
Bloodlines 2 is just sad.

>>738072093
>V5
>no schizo imbued
Dead on arrival.

>>738074580
/v/ has a particular soft spot for RPGs, and usually when they start to fall off, people do commiserate it, but there’s usually more trolling. This shit is just still. WoD is trying to market itself like DnD currently, but that really doesn’t work because I’ll be honest, even if it is better, it does not have the same mass appeal, you have to be a certain type of jaded and worldly to enjoy them, because it’s more character driven than system driven, as a TTRPG. This is inarguably harming the IP after it had managed to recuperate itself some and even managed to draw some social media buzz to it (animations and actual plays). You can really feel everyone wearing black in here.

>>738074567
The game's project definition lists DLC_Benny, DLC_Ysabella, and DLC_Niko. Benny's DLC brings melee to the base game. Ysabella's brings guns to the base game. Will be interesting to see what Niko's brings.

>>738070872
They announced a new VN for the fall on Thursday. It's set in Berlin. You play as a Venture or a Thinblood.
Next real game is Hunter the Reckoning another FPS built on VTMB2's skeleton, looks like shit.

>>738074796
The imbued got written out because it basically turns hunters into less sauced mages and Hunter has always been more of a social game than a systems leaning game like Mage, Werewolf, or Vampire. It was a painful but healthy change.

>>738073470
The funniest thing is that Paradox bought the devs who made the Shadowrun trilogy just as V5 was being released, but put them to work on some literally who new IP.
Braindead publisher. A turn-based VTM RPG would have been a day one purchase for me.

So what do you think of Bloodlines 2 after the design improvements? What more do you think they should realistically try to add to the game?

>>738070947
>A return to it's CRPG roots hopefully
I think the one that is in development suffered some production problems so has gotten delayed or cancelled

>>738075007
I want a WoD Dark Ages game DESPERATELY.

>>738074992
>v5
>health change
Off yourself.

>>738073416
No one even gets this quote anymore.
>>738073462
Not every prince has the ability to dominate the last member of some extinct super powered vampire clan and make him his sheriff I guess.

>>738074796
>>738075281
Average neighborhood watch joe with guns and guts is much more cooler than avenging instrument of god doing miracles, sorry

>>738075392
Wrong and gay.

>>738070872
>and there hasn't been a peep from fans or shit posters alike
Because the base game has about 5 minutes of good content

Here's a joke:
Shop spurdo sparde onto the Benny's face and call the DLC "Loose Benis" - it will be infinitely more enjoyable than anything done by the devs

>>738075416
i respect your opinion regardless

>>738075281
Look, I’m not saying V5 is good as anything other than a fresh print to homebrew from, I’m speaking to my personal feelings across running a lot of stuff, including Wraith and Changeling. Making Hunters rely more on their preparation and themselves instead of some supernatural force is also a more cohesive and complete idea I can easily work with and plays in line with the self righteous attitude needing for hunting. It’s not like I don’t let players have true faith, but they are not going super saiyan on me.

>>738075459
The story has an interesting concept (but all the characters are annoying) and I remember having fun with the combat encounter just before the negress who leads all the hunters, where they keep spawning them in to keep you on your toes
So yes 5 minutes of good content is not even a lowball

>>738075495
He can literally homebrew them in, the books still exist and most likely can be purchased secondhand in your city, if not found on EBay for rag prices.

>>738075610
Have you tried the new combat mechanics? Kicking still sucks, but everything feels so much better now that I can beat Ysabella to death with a baseball bat.

>>738070872

I never understood the hype. Bloodlines 1 when released was also a fucking mess and only gained nostalgia and fame after some time for unjustified reasons. gameplay was it was kind of fucking boring and you could tell after 1 hour of playing it they aren't going to dielever that "cool matrix'ish vampire world and rpg elements" they promised. it was basically a broken unrefined glitchy narrative driven game only saved by iconic charecters and, I remember playing it always thinking "that's it ? " waiting for the game world to unravel but no it was like 4 quests in every area or some shit and the gameplay was crap.
people are too nostalgic.

>>738075764
Hahahahahahahahaha no. I'm never touching this game again

>What’s the difference between a Hunter and a serial killer?
How do you respond to this without sounding angry?

>>738075919
The enemies being ontologically evil is pretty good for your morality

>>738075919
Serial killers need like 3 kills before they're a serial killer, right? I feel like in thr hunter games I've played the party RARELY gets a body count that high

>>738075776
No one plays Bloodlines for the gameplay.

>>738075007
>A turn-based VTM RPG would have been a day one purchase for me.
That's what Swansong was... kinda.

>>738076007
>vampires, werewolves, wraiths etc are ontologically evil
I think even some demons are not ontologically evil according to Fallen.
Oh wait it's NuWOD slop you're talking about.

>>738076093
>No one plays Bloodlines for the gameplay.
There's truth to this, which makes me think that no amount of improving the combat or stealth or general game design of VTMB2 will actually move the needle.

>>738076068
What are they doing all day then?
t. never played a tabletop in my life
I assume the new Hunter game will have you killing vamps by the hundreds

>>738076068
Maybe it was just the group I played with, but when my Underground and Martial started asking about how much magnesium they could buy without arousing suspicion and wanting to mount UV lamps on pickups, I knew it was some bullshit. They lured a Nephandi into a hall of mirrors and fucking gassed him.

>>738076093
I actually like how melee feels. guns feel like absolute dogshit tho

>>738076282
Trying to stop monsters from threatening their loved ones and community, and walking that narrow tightrope to not out themselves to a potential supernatural crime syndicate that could crack down on them at any moment. It’s a lot of paranoia and social deduction based on the metaphorical pieces on the board, protecting them in any way that you can, and fighting a downward spiral into violence.

>>738076282
Mostly just investigating in my expiriance. Maybe its just how my GM does it, but typically most of the game serves as build up to the confrontation with the singular entity that serves as the defacto villain. Figuring out their angle, trying to unravel their scheme, and so fourth

>>738076615
>>738076438
Ooooh wonder how much deduction there will be in the new one then. In Robocop, it was always just press button to scan evidence
Isn't that hard as hell to pull off as a GM? Or are there prewritten scenarios and clues?

>>738076674
Oh yeah I'm sure its hard asf but my GM lives for it and has been doing it for the better part of a decade now. I think there are prewritten scenarios too, but I've never played any of them

We have games set in NYC, London, LA, Seattle, but ZERO (0) in Chicago, THE vtm city

whats up with that?

>>738076674
As a GM it’s better to a rubric laid out for where and when certain NPC beats occur. That way you at least have a list of plot beats to inform the mystery, I think extracting evidence from dialogue feels more organic than
>I look through the room
>Okay, roll 2 successes
>Okay, I rolled 1 success and 2 crits (5 wins)
>Plot dump as I magically explain how your character knew exactly where to look magically
The point is, you want your who, your what, why, how, when, in advance. I find it easier to assemble my NPCs and structure the story around them, and how I can use them to fuck with players (a gnarled old man, who despite his mean exterior, has lived in this town for years and seen everything come and go, and would love for young people to listen to him for once about what he saw at the quarry 40 years ago.)

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>>738070872
The game is garbage, no DLC can fix that
A pity really, I'm surprised they even bothered to release extra content

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>>738076971
Too much prestige, good they stay off it. Same for Kindred of the East, they couldn’t figure out how to do Asian vampires so badly they wrote them back into being a shady question mark society despite establishing multiple books of lore for them, while being very Chinese and Japanese leaning, had pretty good representation, leagues better than Jews the Game.

>>738070872
Nothing went wrong, gatekeeping is working. The "video game" fell for the modern audience meme and tried to cater to the larping troons instead of the gatekeepers. I will continue to enjoy the TTRPG and the original game without them being infected by the axe-wound carrying, troonoid, rope chasing subhumans.

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>>738070947
The more you find out about the game the clearer it becomes TCR wasn't really interested in telling Phyre's story. That was the "customizable protagonist" premise they were stuck with and which turned out to be a big part of the initial project they couldn't just ax. What they cared about were Fabien bits and I guess these prequel stories for side characters.

>>738077065
They were legally obligated to release it

>>738077065
>someone save your image

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>>738072550
>Muslim black anarch living in Copenhagen fighting against misogynism and elitism, and for queerness and mortal minorities, while leading a crusade
I have seen this image posted multiple times but I never bothered to read it all until now

>>738071827
>Gay communists
But /v/ loves Damsel

>>738074868
>Will be interesting to see what Niko's brings.
Grand Theft Auto: Bloodlines

>>738070872
oh good a shill thread!

>>738077310
It just feels so disconnected from the way it used to be. Like they had a quota to hit for themes in the story and just smashed them all into one character. WoD is no stranger to prog politics and queer culture, but just the phrasing sounds like the recitation of a list rather than a character actually inspired by that. It’s not subversive stories written about violence begets violence, it’s all “it’s hard being the good guy and making good choices” which Vampire is fundamentally at odds with even just with the concept of “Ways”.

>>738077530
Anon, this is a funeral procession.

>>738077507
kek
What would modern VTMB even replace BEEG AMERICAN TEETEES with

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>>738077621
>WoD is no stranger to prog politics and queer culture
People say this, but that was in the context of its time. White Wolf was a libertarian company and that definitely reflected in WoD. That's different from today's virtue signally by people woefully out of touch with realty. Pic somewhat related.

>>738072093
>X the Y: Subtitle
This naming scheme has always been retarded.

>>738077834
Oh I know White Wolf are Lolberts, I already mentioned them thinking that Jews are a magical people.

>>738078121
That's just how WoD has always been so it's charming that they keep doing it

>>738075063
>What more do you think they should realistically try to add to the game?
Post-game open world wandering

>>738078160
>I already mentioned them thinking that Jews are a magical people
kek they probably regret that now, just like they do about making Gypies magical in that one splat book

>>738078360
That splatbook was the exact one I was referencing. But, it did pave the way for the best Wraith book and probably best WoD book ever.

>>738078418
The Holocaust book is interesting, but it isn't really blunt in that the Shoah was completely mundane, and none of the magical factions of WoD was involved in it?

>>738076134
A RPG more in the vein of the Shadowrun Trilogy itself is what I mean. Isometric view controlling a party.

>>738078548
Isn't that what the team that made that Game Jam Game Heartless Lullaby are doing?

>>738074868
What is Paradox getting out of this? They filled their pre-order obligations with the two DLCs. DLC sales have diminishing returns regardless of quality. It won't entice more people to buy it. It doesn't generate good will with Vampire: The Masquerade fans. Burning money for no reason.

>>738078536
Yarp. They say that the night found ways to benefit itself from the Nazis, vampires stealing prisoners and the Get of Fenris and Heimdall being war profiteers and being tricked by the Wyrm. But yeah, Goebbels, Mengele, and Hitler are mortals.

>>738078665
maybe tcr wanted to develop a third one. keep in mind, their publisher got them to take over bloodlines 2 as paradox was ready to kill the project. since then tcr has actually gone independent from their publisher.

>>738076971
When you think about it, it's Gary, not Chicago, which is THE VtM city.

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>>738076971
>Chicago, THE vtm city
because there's a sourcebook for it you'd likely have to canonically stick to

>>738078756
>maybe tcr wanted to develop a third one.
But why?
The only reason I could see is that it keeps devs busy while they go into pre-production for another project that fits there wheel house better but I would have thought TCR doesn't have enough devs for that

>>738078712
>>738078536
this contradicts a story in the tzimisce clanbook where a german soldier encounters a vampire posing as waffen ss

>>738077137
>leagues better than Jews the Game.
Technocracy? Gargoyles? Which?

>>738079593
Exactly, so a Tzimisce posed as a Nazi to further his own ends. His loyalty does not lie with the Nazi party, it lies with his sire, as Tzimisce keep their spawn on tight leashes. It should also be known that the Tzimisce are infamously deceptive. Again, the Shoah was a mundane phenomenon, but served as a nexus for the night to serve their own ends. It’s not like they were heading it up, they saw an opportunity and seized it.

>>738079803
that's stupid though because vampires, especially the sabbat clans, would leap at the chance to have direct influence over very motivated mortals like the axis powers who could easily have ended up winning and dominating europe

everybody just ignoring it for no reason as if they signed an illusory truce is retarded

especially when we know the reason is not anything to do with in-fiction, it's real-world jew advocacy groups they're trying not to anger

>>738077735
It doesn't have to, Niko is the only male vamp in the game who will hook up with male Phyre.
BEEG ROMANIAN TEETEES

>>738079895
>it's real-world jew advocacy groups they're trying not to anger
Why would Jews get upset by a game making Nazis literal monsters?

>>738079895
1. The Sabbat had been weakened at this time, and couldn’t mobilize they way they were used to in times of war before, only having straggling guerilla fighters.
2. No Sabbat is going to listen to the Kine perspective, ever, even if it is given in their knees, and especially if it involves them playing into mortal machinations. They would rather use that time to recuperate their numbers and subvert their system to leech off of it.
Again, not to mistake them for being completely innocent, they are not, but they were not “involved” other in ways that would benefit the night explicitly.

>>738080145
That’s the crux of the issue, by doing that, you are fictionalizing it in a way.

Give me one city in states that hasnt been used in canon, as well as having a cool irl history you can draw inspiration from

>>738080147
Was there ever a period when Sabbat were not a bunch of retards?

>>738080279
Their defacto method of mass embrace involves brain trauma with spades, so no.

>>738080145
same reasons the gays didn't like the Russians in Chechnya, being the puppets of Vampires when they went around killing Homosexuals

it's like a visual novel but a bad one

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>>738080279
Sabbat was basically always a horde of low-tier retards and aloof elders with their own agendas. In recent memory, Prince of Milan betrayed the sect and turned Camarilla. Makes sense since Giangaleazzo was the responsible for Code of Milan in the first place aka Sabbat rules of conduct.

>>738080390
I didn't understand the outrage their either. It was calling out a real life atrocity that the media ignores. This got it more coverage than the actual executions.

>>738080252
Boise Idaho
Dundee Scotland

>>738080465
What's the history of Boise?

>>738080507
It has a Potato Festival

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>>738070872
why the fuck is there a giant fat guy

>>738080465
Boise by Night has a really, REALLY good ring to it.

>>738070872
Did the dlc remake the entire game from the ground up, story included?

>>738080450
Yeah, the more you read, the more apparent it becomes that the Sabbat as a whole was created as a Camarilla power game. Very few Sabbat recognize this because everyone in the night is always keeping secrets or even outright lying. Every vampire and mage has an agenda, all of them, and they will never be honest with you about it, if they are, they’re desperate and more dangerous than a liar

>>738080731
>mage
What is their game like? Aren't they far above all threats?

>>738080465
>Originally established as a military outpost in 1863 during the gold rush era, Boise rapidly grew due to its location on the Oregon Trail and its proximity to mining operations in the surrounding region.

I can already imagine the Andrew Carnegie type tycoon Prince who's been holding the city since Oregon trail times, thanks anon.

>>738072940
what the fuck is that

>>738070872
that's not a real vampire masquerade game

>>738080813
The modellers failing to be faithful to the original Bloodlines art style

Bloodlines 2 isn't necessarily bad.

It's just boring overall. Which is worse than being bad.

>>738080785
In a way, they’re schizoid and reality is what they believe it to be, but they can’t believe too hard or the reality police will come and derealize them from our plane. They are far above a lot, in theory, every game though, at least one person, you see the cracks start to form before their life swirls down a hellish surreal drain. There’s a lot working for them, but just as much against them, I find it more stressful dealing with paradox (GTA stars for reality cops) than managing hunger in VtM.

>what went so wrong
The
Chinese
Room

>>738080950
It absolutely is bad. Unless you start applying the classic "at least this product works without crashing so it can't be bad" bullshit

>>738081031
It's not good either, but it's not "bad". It's mediocre and boring.

>>738080990
The game was clearly going wrong before that, so a lot of the blame can be laid at Paradox's feet as well

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>"vampira hendricks"
>possesses a merely EIGHT (8) number of content in r34 for like a year now
>pic-related is the best content she ever got

This game was such a mistake anons. Imagine being such a forgettable nothingburger of a game that not even a busty vampire milf can save it or get content (because nobody cares to petition content) is just....so wrong. Especially as a vampirefag.

Now watch as Blood of the Dawnwalker will explode in content cause slavs understand sexy and marketing.

I liked bloodlines 2 enough to finish the game but I hated the ending so much that I instantly uninstalled after and lost all interest in any DLC.

>>738081079
Well to begin with, being boring automatically means it's bad for any entertainment product

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>>738080990

>>738081079
It's a cursed franchise but handing development to Walking Simulators R'us was the final straw.

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>>738080957
If there's a bright side to it all it's that truly powerful Mages lose interest in the real world and get to enjoy their pocket dimension where they can do whatever the fuck they want.

>>738081085
>"""busty"""
>literally got her tits downgraded from the Hardsuit build
lel

blood of the dawnwalker sucks because I dont want to play as some slavic faggot. I want to play as a hot vampire bitch

>>738081085
Why did BG3 have more horniness in its promo than anything VtM in the past decade? VtM is the horniest tabletop game I have EVER played.

>>738081085
I can see her areola

>>738080557
Based

>>738081242
Sweedish LARPers took over the franchise

CARTHAAAAAAAAAAGE RAAAAAAAAGH

>>738081320
That's to distract you from the fangs

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>>738081347
Essentially. LARP scene used to get their own separate book, the Mind's EyeTheater, but with V5 they basically took over the main game.

>>738081347
LARP has a weird connotation in this thread right now because I was speaking positively on it earlier. Are you saying they actually LARP or they were LARPing as DnD fans. Which if the latter is the case, they were doing a bad job by making multiple CRPGs that feel like DnD with DnD stats in a world inspired by the sword coast until they finally made the game adaptation of what had inspired them for decades prior, not making them LARPers, but just fans.

>>738081501
the WW writing team was taken over by members of the Swedish VtM LARP scene and a lot of the problams of V5 can be placed directly at their feet

>>738080252
I think they've covered most major cities so you have to go for smaller niche cities like Centralia, PA, Point Pleasant, VA, or Fauke, AR and lean into those city histories.

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I'm still upset that I got locked into the bad end for choosing one of the rare options that lets me roleplay as my chosen clan. Especially because the last part of the game finally starts to feel like an rpg. But none of the choices I made or who I sided with mattered because of something that happened hours before any of this takes place. I normally don't mind getting a bad end for making dubious decisions, but this time it felt like I was just being insulted and wasting my time. Fuck me for finally starting to care about the story only to have the writers rub it in my face.

>>738081583
See, I’m not hip to foreign WoD. Has any tabletop game been good after 5 revisions? The systems are good enough in V5, it just feels so barren, which is such a weird thing for LARPers to skimp on, because story and conveyance of it is one of the primary cruxes. I have always played theater of the mind, so I always used these books as a joined network for establishing gameplay systems quickly for players so that the story can proceed fairly but quickly. Not even talking about the subjects is just straight erasure, they probably know that and just don’t give a shit, what a fuckin shame.

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>>738070872
>mfw they decided it's impossible to implement manually saving after all

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>>738081189
tbf nothing has ever came close to her jugs in the HL cinematic trailer
I remember multiple threads on /v/ with her as thumbnail after the trailer

>>738081921
It's just so blatantly Hendricks, it's honestly kinda weird cause they didn't get her likeness rights

>>738081770
It's a bad end for Seattle, but not your character. She told you what would happen if you killed her, that's what you get for not listening to her.

>>738082017
I'm not a lorehead, but turning an incredibly senior hunter into a vampire seems like the dumbest idea I've ever heard

>>738082082
An enemy wants to defect to your side in a way that would permanently make them an enemy to to their side, and you're saying no?

>>738082161
>become vampire
>tell all your hunter friends about all the vampires
>quietly retire

>>738077621
I heard once it was supposedly inspured by a real person but I struggle to believe that.

>>738082221
There is a puritan hunter who has been in America since pilgrim days and sustains himself imbibing vamp blood, very fucking cool. Most hunters get orders to steer clear of him for his vampire vitae addiction and how needing a fix makes him unpredictable, despite being the best HUMAN (NON-MAGE) monster killer alive in the U.S. and maybe on the planet.

>>738072550
How can you practice Muzzie shit in that world when you now are something that "Allah" would kill? Other Muzzie would kill you too.

Fuck you Muzzie!

>>738083204
Aren't there several Arab clans

>>738083225
Yep, and a couple denominations of Christianity, Catholic vampires are canon, and some faithful vampires can even perform acts of true faith not to different from Hunters.

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>DLC dropped earlier this week
wait what?

>>738083204
>How can you practice Muzzie shit in that world when you now are something that "Allah" would kill?
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “I do not find in what has been revealed to me anything forbidden to eat except carrion, running blood, swine—which is impure—or a sinful offering in the name of any other than Allah. But if someone is compelled by necessity—neither driven by desire nor exceeding immediate need—then surely your Lord is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”

every game in this franchise is dogshit

>>738077230
Phyre is literally just some elder vampire plot device for the story.

>>738084158
Name a single game where the MC isn't just a plot device

>>738084268
bloodlines 1, lol

>>738084318
Eh he just exists to move the sarcophagus and inter-faction war along

>>738070872
I'm glad it's not being discussed, that way it's not spoiled for me.

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>>738081085
It's hard to believe blood of dawnwalker is an ex cdpr game because there is literally no sexuality or sexiness in any of the vampires. Not to mention a game set in medieval eastern europe has no women with nipples poking through clothing, wobbly tits, bare cleavage etc. Sucks. Old CDPR is long dead.

>>738084318
The fledgling is a pawn in someone else's game, there are in-game emails that outright state this.

>>738075776
You're too full of shit. People are playing and enjoying VTMB right now.

>>738070872
anon, honest to god i didn't even know that the main game had released
what the fuk

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>>738084419
Randomly reminded me of this chick
I think she was one of the women you talk to while finding Dandelion

>>738070872
>sequel is so dogshit even the shitposters gave up
Genuinely embarrassing.

>>738084585
being obsessed with one game you hate and posting about it nonstop in its threads is indeed embarrassing

take barry for example

Remember anons, you can HC any game as WoD in your head if you are schizo enough.

>>738080252
Mattoon

>>738084579
she will be fat and black in witcher 4

>>738084941
My point is that this game is so dogshit there isn't even a schizo going crazy over it.

Even Paradox already declared the game a failure. They're only making these DLCs out of obligation since a handful of people paid for it and even less people will actually bother to come back and play it.

>>738085414
im glad it is so, people who want to talk about bloodlines 2 wont get drowned out, threads wont get derailed, so on

>>738085553
All 2 of them, sure.

>>738085414
If you are a fan of WoD and have been for more than 3 years, you will understand this is par for the course as far as modern releases go, most fans were expecting this so don’t feel burnt by it, and the ones who do like it can enjoy it in their quiet nook, while some people come and commiserate it, there’s not like any truly agro behavior in here or any super outlandish trolling. I’ll always be in a Vampire thread, it’s one of the tabletop games I have the most great memories associated with, and changed the way I played them a lot and VtMB rules.

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>>738070872

Bloodlines 2 is like Bloodlines 1. The only difference is that it doesn't have a dark gothic horror atmosphere

or good writing that strikes a perfect balance between poetic prose and dark humor that doesn't hold any punches

or cool, memorable, interesting, and charismatic characters

or a brutally unforgiving world

or an interesting city that fits the world of darkness setting

or grunge art style and character designs

or fantastic atmospheric music

or great voice acting

or amazingly designed locations that feel more immersive than any other locations in any other video games ever made

or 4 ultra-distinctive hubs filled with interesting characters and events

or varied kino quests

or rich character progression

or a morality system that revolves around both humanity and masquerade points that affect the dialogue system

or smart exploration

or the ability to use melee weapons and firearms

or deep and intelligently designed gameplay that forces the player to use their brain in general

or the pros of not being the most fucking boring, sterile, corporate, soulless, and forgettable video game ever fucking made

>>738085549
So why are they doing more after the first two then?

>>738087235
They're not.

>you can't make a good vampire the masquerade game without it taking place in the 1990's to early 2000's
I was right yet again.

why the fuck would they release a DLC when they literally stated they have game changing gameplay fixes coming to do with firearms and other shit?
These developers are absolutely retarded. Rather than releasing morsels no one gives a shit about, release it all at once and brand it as a 2.0.
Fucking absolute incompetent retards. What a sad end to the Bloodlines title. Embarassing.

>>738088418
My girlfriend Julia's game proves you wrong :^)

I really would have been fine with a more established character with more of their own personality and motivations but they really did just go with the worst possible background and behaviors and an annoying sidekick. They pursued all the worst possible tropes.

>>738086578
Fake.

>>738089357
???

>>738088525
The only reason these gameplay changes are happening is because they're getting paid to to the DLCs. They're an additional benefit, otherwise support would have been abandoned already.

>>738088525
To play doubles advocate, they aren't a huge team that can just dev all that shit at once

>>738089497
>doubles advocate
what the fuck are they putting in the water
do you retards just phonetically type out every vague phrase that comes into your head with no regard for accuracy

>>738091498
Allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morels are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a six cents when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go. Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the fax. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.