truly
>>711881532did toby actually, unironically remove the rape?
>>711881720Do you niggas actually think he included rape in whats essentially a tumblr game?
What phenotype is this
>>711881835The raped
>>711881830>generic anime meme>virginal retardName a more iconic duo
>>711881830tumblr fags are mostly women and women love rape in fiction
>>711881532>"I POSTED IT AGAIN"Are you parents proud of you OP?
>>711881835>>711881902portuguese and george carlin fan
>>711881830>Tells you to stop>Screen goes black>Literal deflowering on screen
>>711881835>curly hairNot white that's for sure
>>711881989my parents are deadmy only family is noelle
>>711882029You niggas are so desperate for it to be a rape scene its kind of sad desuJust go fap bro
>>711881830He did
>>711882159If it wasn't rape why change it
>>711882159Exactly its really sad how the NEED it to be rape for some reason. This is what too much porn does to ppl.
>>711882159>Just fapI only fap to vanilla you nigger
THE RAPE WILL NEVER BE MEMORY HOLED
>>711882159>>711882313>desu>pplFooling no one, virginal troon retard
>>711881532Toby we know you're in here.Stop hiding your own mistakes, you know what you did.
>>711882262Ever consider he didnt want people mistaking it for rape? Like whats happening right nowCritical thinking my nigga
RAPE
First time?
If I don't update the game can I still see the rape scene?
>>711882561Are we the baddies?
>>711882159Anon this isn't about horniness, it's about repetead blatant symbolism. >puts a ring on herSymbolizes forced marriage.>pierces her with a thornSymbolizes forced sex.>rose blooming and petals fallingSymbolizes loss of virginity.You genuinely could not be more blatant short of having text pop up saying "HAHA YOU MADE KRIS RAPE NOELLE, HONK HONK!".
>>711882771no, we just want love, its a natural thing
>>711881830>>711882159what is there to think? he did, lmao, plain and clear
>>711881720>>711881830>>711881532it wasnt rape retardit is innocence lost
>>711882894And how is innocence usual lost?
>>711881835Canis
>>711882159You think he walked her home gently too?
>>711881720No he just tried to hide it like a coward
>>711882973wait, are you telling me that you actually think kriss like, took off noelle clothes and fucked her in the pussy or something?The narrative is about corrupting Noelle into becoming a bloodlust monster that only cares about becoming stronger, this is a way to show that. Toby changed it because people misinterpreting a little too much, now it is that "her inner light turns off"
>>711882973Not like that in this game, which is where it matters. It was removed not to censor himself but because retards like you cling to it in a sexual way when he didn’t mean it like that.
can someone explain whether you are allowed to romance her or notor whether its just "no, you're bad for wanting to" and that's that
>>711881835funny parentheses
>>711883153So Kris raped her til she passed out?
>>711883153Toby, you're not very subtle.I know its you.Its okay if you implied rape in your game.
It's not rape if she has pink heart shaped pupils, ask any lawyer.
>>711883113What happens now?
Did toby really rape his lesbian deer during pride month?
>>711883426Yes
Rape?
>>711883550I politely request the isolated first panel (i just like panty shots)
>>7118834261) It wasn't rape2) Noelle probably isn't a lesbian as every monster is at least bisexual3) Kris isn't male>>7118835504) Spoiler tag won't stop you from getting banned.
>>711883263No Kris raped her next to a candle all night until it burned out
>>711883696Fuck off Toby, go make more rape scenes
Is Toby a /k/ poster?
Not your woman, not your problem.
>>711882159>>711882313Please go back.
>>711882561What even happens in this scene post-patch?
Why are anons getting so upset that people see this as a rape scene?
>>711884185Everything is the same, but the rose is swapped for a pixel fading out
>>711884313*stil rap*
>>711884236No anon is getting upset.Toby on the other hand, is very upset and is damage controlling as we speak.
>>711884236Because it gives it gravitas and depth that this games tumblerite fanbase is literally too emotionally stunted to understand or deal with. OBVIOUSLY it's not rape, but it IS visceral and evocative and draws on the gut in just a right way to let you know that, symbolically, Noelle is being spiritually violated. Now it's nothing, some fuck ass fading pixel like a fart in the wind. It went from art to a childish interpretation of a soul impotently fading into nothing rather than the violent metamorphosis it actually is it really pisses me off.
>>711882561Obviously a rape scene. Nobody is fooled by fans that have a parasocial relationship with toby who are pretending it's not a rape scene.>inb4 the goalposts get moved to "ok it's a rape scene but it's a deep and meaningful videogame rape unlike all the other rape games removed from steam"
>four years to update his game>have to change the content because he didn't think it could be seen different from person to person in those four years
>>711884313Just seems like a weird thing to backpedal on with the scene already having the tone it does. But then I guess ending the scene with Noelle metaphorically being deflowered was also pretty much begging for this discourse. Talk about writing yourself into a corner.
>>711881532but he can rape her again
>It's not rape>Take scene that can be very easily misconstrued as being rape>Really uncomfortable vibes in the lead upIs Tobert autistic?
>>711881532this is hot
it wasn't a literal rape scene guys cmon
>>711883696>1) It wasn't rape>2) Noelle probably isn't a lesbian as every monster is at least bisexual>3) Kris isn't male0 media literacy post.
>>711883696faggot
Doesn't matter if it was intended to be rape or not. If people believe that it was, then it is.
I don't believe for one second that Toby didn't intend it to be viewed as rape. "Deflowering" isn't exactly some rare esoteric term that never shows up in any form of media. The man had years to think it over and has almost certainly had several people play it prior to its release.
Buck Breaking? More like Doe Dicking
>>711883550What if Carol walked in
>>711885178She would join
>>711885054It was definitely intended to be rape.
>>711885178>based response "Yes...">baser response tags: vouyerism, masturbation>basest response tags: ffm threesome, assisted rape
>>711881835Would be a perfect trans if he started HRT early on his teens.
>>711885178She would make sure there's isnt a condom in the equation
>>711881835Ashkenazi jewish with amerimutt seasoning
>>711885512He's a retard, he blew his chance to be female on some yurishit, which is just a cope in the end anyway
>>711885512End your life predator.
>>711885178>haha kris you are raping my daughter
>>711882561Where is Susie during this?
yknow I didn't really understand why women like rape so much but now I think I'm staring to get the appeal
>>7118836965) You will never be a woman
>>711883565>A character with a masochistic sidekick whose unorthodox actions, involving rape and murder, ends up upsetting the order of the world to ultimately create a happy ending.I can't believe Toby Fox put Rance in my Deltarune.
>>711885714You know, I did too
>>711882561I'm not ever going to play so this: what are the consequences of taping her?
>>711881830>>711882561It happened.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr20uhuU48M
>>711883423exact same thing but the deflowering symbolism was removed in one scene
>You can have the "good ending" where you help two sapphic positivity tier fantasy lesbians hook up while you wait in the cuck shack with your imaginary incest twink goat brother -or->You can corrective rape the childhood friend deer because heterosexual relationships are evilYeah real subtle ideological messages there Tobias
Reminder. We can guide but we have very little control over what happens in the actual moment.If Kris did rape Noelle than he could have stopped it once we faded to black.He secretly wanted to
>>711885103Same.It makes me wonder if hes trying to play some weird 5Drama chess here, because if this shit was problematic, it would go through>his team>His playtesters>The publisher>Nintendo>Steam>Whatever agencies there are neccessary to censor a gameTheres no fucking way he was greenlit on that and then just changed it on a whim because he somehow thought in 5 years "oh yeah this would be bad"
>>711881835Juden
>douchebag ugly bastard sans *loudly* rawdogging toriel while her developing, pubescent child (alphys probably took sex-ed classes out of the curriculum, and don't forget that kris is special needs) is FORCED to listen>said child, is FORCED to rape their childhood friend (so they're both rape victims I'd argue, both virgins who barely understand the birds and the bees)is toby... okay, mentally? seems like he was in a dark place while writing chapter 4, and now experiencing a moment of clarity
>>711886031Even better - he could have removed the soul and put us back into the cage at any moment right there, instead of allowing the entire thing.
>>711886031>Reminder. We can guide but we have very little control over what happens in the actual moment.That's wrong though as we're clearly getting more power with every chapter
>>711885054It really is his fault that he left it open in such a way that it can be interpreted as rape, that is if he truly didn't intend this. He was simply not precise enough if this is the case.But I also just think that if he intended this the entire time, and he pulled back, then that is a huge mark on his writing skills, but we won't know that ever really. We can talk about how Toby is coddling a bunch of retards that aren't up to multiple interpretations or perspectives and have to have things super rigid like. That these characters are Toby's toys he wants to show off to the playground and the other kids want them to be specific to their needs and not his because they can't handle a little fucking edge to their animal cartoon game.I'm not entirely turned off, but if he can't be true to himself after all this time then what am I here for really? I'm just mumbling and bumbling about right now as I barely woke up so my thoughts aren't exactly clear but man I think he ruined his vision for idiots and I HATE that. It feels like it goes against everything that turtle character was talking about in Ch 4 man.
>>711881532PROCEED
Doe can't too slow unraping
>>711881532BASED BASED BASED!
>>711885695hopefully not getting raped
>>711886071Keep in mind that despite all the people who has been working on the game, it released with game-breaking bugs that did not let Steam Deck and PS5 players even play the game.No one wants to do their job any more.
