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>Good thing I was able to get that SOUL out of me. Now, what did you want to discuss, Carol-sama?
>...Wha!? You managed to uncover another part of the Prophecy? And this part of the Prophecy is supposed to happen right now!?
>EH!? The Red SOUL escaped!? You mean the red heart I TRAPPED in the gift box and BETRAYED escaped its prison and is FLYING through the VENTS of your own home!? You mean that while my friends are having a STUDY DATE in the other room ALONE TOGETHER, all the while I have to COCKBLOCK the SOUL from seeing the code on Dess's guitar?
>There's MORE!? You mean that once I get my hands on the SOUL, I'll have to HIDE in Dess's closet while Susie and Noelle SIT against each other and make SWEET TALK!? I'll be FORCED to OVERHEAR Noelle shittalk ME so she could get with my BEST FRIEND, all the while I KEK the SOUL out of getting the shelter code!?!? And even after all that, Susie will STILL get the guitar to have YET ANOTHER romantic moment with her!?!?!? And ALL OF THIS is SET in STONE, FATED to play out EXACTLY as you DESCRIBE??? YABBA DABBA DOO!!!! I AM THE KEKOLD OF FATE!!!!!!!!
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What was Tenna looking for in the cliffs?
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>Answer the phone
>The hand's waiting 'til you're all alone
The hand is the Knight. It waits until Kris is all alone to call on the phone.
>It pulls the strings and makes them ring
Playing guitar.
Spamton's theme told us the Knight plays guitar.
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Am I crazy, or is Dess' guitar a lefty one? Susie hold it right-handed, but strumming it down, it goes from a lower to a higher pitch, that's not what should happen, right? Is Dess left-handed like the Knight?
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OOOOUUUUUUGGGGHHHH TOOTHPASTE BOYYYYYYYYYY
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>>712300554
her computer mouse indicates she is a lefty, yea
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>>712300618
Love me some discussion, and holy shit does this game have plenty of it.
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>>712300554
If you look at the computer in Dess's room, the mouse is placed for a lefthanded user.
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>>712300612
ralsei DOESN'T real
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so what would we do if Gaster suddenly appears in the game and he's just a dude?
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Anons will post shit like the OP and flood the catalog with "lol deer raep" but take genuine offense at any opinions that this site isn't worth using or preserving.
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kris is trying to go home.
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I really really really liked Spamton Neo in snowgrave.
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>>712300709
>implying he wouldn't be on board with our degeneracy
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>>712300225
>Delete my genocide/weird/snowgrave route saves (in the second slot, only made it to chapter 2)
>But it refused
Am I missing something? I don't even have Steam cloud enabled, I specifically disabled it for Deltarune before deleting them. And it stayed that way until yesterday. Is this some weird creepy meta shit that the game does sometimes?
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I hope Deltarune becomes a story where we see Asgore rise from the shes of his rep and we see the man he is, versus we see toriel's flawas and how we've forgotten they're both people who can be good and bad

Deltarune made me remember how much I liked Asgore, and Im really excited to see what he does
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>>712300831
the clear saves are separated from regular saves
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYF1nmIXWbw
reminder
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>>712300831
It is deleted, anon. That's why your second save slot is a Chapter 1 completion file.
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>Chapter 5
>Asgore goes insane from the cucking and opens a Dark Fountain in Flower King to escape reality
>Inside we find Darkner versions of the Dreemurr family made of plants that all still love Asgor
I'm ready to see this man at his lowest ever. Too bad we have to wait at least a year.
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>>712300885
I wanna see Asgore in his prime eventually.
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>>712300225
KEKAROO
BASED
CANON
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>>712300387
And in case anyone has any doubt the "ringing strings" are referring to guitar strings:
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>>712300831
When you get to the credits in a chapter it will create a save file for that slot separate from your actual slot save. You'll have to go into the appdata folder and delete the completion save file if you want it gone.
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>>712300663
>>712300618
>in Toby's games, literally everyone is bisexual and left handed (the opposite of real life)
what the fuck
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HOWDY TORI!!! Ready for another PATHETIC ATTEMPT to WIN you back, despite you CLEARLY showing me you want NOTHING to DO with me??? ..........YIPPITY DOODEE, I'LL TAKE YOUR DEAFENING SILENCE AS A YES!!! AHEM!!! *KNEELS to the ground and pulls out flowers* DEAREST TORI, I might be a FAT FUCKUP, I might be a desperate KEKold, I might be LAUGHABLY POOR partly from POOR BUSINESS DECISIONS and NAIVETY, my jokes are just AWFUL instead of ENDEARINGLY bad like SANS-SAMA'S, and I may or may not have been involved in Dess, our child Asriel's LOVE of his LIFE, DYING.....AAAAAND that's the end of my notes! Will you TAKE ME BACK now Tori? HUUUUUUUHHH?? You're saying I'll CONTINUE being ignored and KEKolded right in front of me and our OTHER SON Kris, who you FREQUENTLY neglect in favor of KEKOLDING me out of SPITE, JUST to FURTHER divide his BROKEN HOME?? *JAW DROPS* WOWIE ZOWIE, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TORI, YOU'RE TOO KIND!!!! AND you're telling me you'll CONTINUE pretending to be asleep in the DARK WORLD so you can have SEX with DARKNER MEN, specifically *GULP* MR. ANT TENNA-SAMA so he can BROADCAST my KEKolding for the entire TOWN to see???? And because we have NO INTERNET ACCESS, my BROKEN MARRIAGE and MORE IMPORTANTLY, my son's TRAUMA, will be the ONLY form of ENTERTAINMENT Hometown has until the ROARING destroys us all???? The ROARING being your ORGASMIC YELLS from being FUCKED harder than life METAPHORICALLY fucks ME??? OH MY WIBBLY WOBBLY TIMEY WIMEY, IF I WASN'T COMICALLY OBESE I'D JUMP AND CLICK MY HEELS!!! I HOPE CAROL-SAMA GIVES ME A BIGGER ALLOWANCE TO AFFORD SOME MORE KEKKING SNACKS FROM SANS'S SLOP STORE!!!!!!! EEEEEEEEYABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, TIME FOR A BINGING SESSION!!!!!!!!!!
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>>712301062
you arent even close to a scholar.
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Is it worth playing now or should I wait until the whole thing is out?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEPbUhHhECU
what the FUCK does it mean
SAVE ME DECEMBER
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>>712300923
You know I never really asked this but what is behind the door in Asgore's room I wonder?
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>>712300225
I made him say this
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>>712300886
>>712300903
>>712301007
Alright, thank you anons.
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>>712301142
Another Chapter's coming out next year if you're willing to wait until then for more content. Even so, I think it's worth the purchase.
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>>712300763
that reminds me of a post where anon said that the hometown itself is a dark fountain
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>>712301142
Do you want to get on board the train now or wait until 2030?
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anons i just got to the part in the OP and listening to kris playing the piano is making me really sad
why am i being forced into fucking with this kid he doesn't deserve this
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Made another one of these.
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>>712300225
So where is Kris's actual soul?
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>>712301164
In Chapter 4, you can look in the back window and see a conspiracy corkboard, similar to the one that's in Carol's room that Asgore is looking at.

Also his bedroom is probably back there.
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>>712300727
Ralsei does real
Ralsei will real
Ralsei Asriel
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>>712300225
>Kris is a genuinely nice kid forced to do some bad shit by the Knight/Carol.
ACT brave for him too, fellas.
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I do not give a shit about shipping bullshit but I love how the weird route brings out the best compositions in people
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>>712300987
Huh
>FRIEND is a literal severed hand
>He shows up in the basement
>Spamton is being puppeteered
Was FRIEND the one puppeteering Spamton?
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>thought i was over the brainrot
>it came back
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>>712300940
It would be nice, I think Sans kinda took over as the cool boss, Undyne too, whereas Asgore is kinda forgotten. I just want to see his character redeemed, especially if he knows more than he lets on.

I think the fact he works for Carol as the gardner is some weird catch-22: Carol wants to keep an eye on him where as Asgore is trying to find shit in her house to make sense of whats going on
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>>712301205
it is. copies are monochrome. goners are monochrome. the coloured copies in mancountry are coloured-in goners.
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True!
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>>712301328
suffering
builds
character
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>>712301269
either it was taken by someone or it was diminished to the point where it can't properly sustain kris
or maybe the SOUL is special in that it's the only thing that can seal dark fountains and kris' actual soul is fine it just can't do that
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>>712301239
wait until you get to the dark world it gets better
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>>712301239
No one can choose who they are in this world.
You have to make the best of your circumstances, whatever they are.
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>end of chapter 2
>go to save at castle town
>you realize you will never go back to cyber city
>completely missed Spamton
Eh, always next playthrough I guess?
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>>712301269
They have it still. That's why they're able to move around, play the piano, beat us with hockey sticks, sleep, etc. without us in. Kris is merely a "cage":
>THE FIRST HERO.
>THE CAGE, WITH HUMAN SOUL AND PARTS!
We're not a normal SOUL. We're something else stuck into Kris to keep us caged. Most likely the Angel.
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the flying aces are goners.
goners are copies.
the flying ace in mycastletown is a goner.
ralsei is faded.
ralsei is a goner.
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>>712301239
kris'n ain't easy
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Please without serious spoils, how do I NOT fuck up chapter 3 for the extra stuff? Im on snowgrave.
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>>712301441
do well in tenna's show to get S ranks
play the real game
do the impossible
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>>712301492
are these games 1 shots? Can I save?
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>>712301239
Kris is a little shit anyway. Even loves cheating on videogame.
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If Carol, Dess, and Kris are working together, what is their endgame? Why doesn't Carol save her own daughter from the dark? How do they benefit from pushing the prophecy further, or are they attempting to subvert it? Does Asgore really know what the three of them are doing or is he an unknowing peon? Why did Toriel sleep through all of Chapter 3 is she lazy?
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>>712301239
>why am i being forced into fucking with this kid
if you put the game down you can stop hurting kris
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Reminder that all the shadow crystal bosses/schizoes have a connection with the party member that equips their item
>Jevil = Susie = Is the only free one (delusional in Jevil's case, true in Susie's case)
>Spamton = Ralsei = Wants to be a real boy and cut his strings (in denial in Ralsei's case)
>The Knight = Noelle = It's either her sister or mother
>Gerson = Susie = The entire fight revolves around Susie's character developing
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>>712301239
Kris needs your help.
He's in something deep, over his head, and we're the only ones who knows what he needs.
He's not a bad kid.
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tonight i will remind anons to make the thing they want to make
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>>712300225
>he thinks carol was on the phone
>not asgore, who shows up right after this because he's still trying to investigate the dess case
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>>712301538
you get to save in between rounds, and if you fuck up you can pay a bunch of points to buy your way into S rank
don't worry too much about it though, if you don't suck ass it's not too hard to get S's once you know what to do
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Mizzles are cute post them please
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>>712301441
Okay.
If you want the secret boss and want to get the Shadow Crystal without absolute pain and suffering, you need to either get S-Rank (second highest) or Z-rank (the worst) on both boards. Between them, go to the S/Z-rank rooms. There you'll progress the secret boss stuff. Ramb will be your guide.

HOWEVER, DO NOT DO THE THIRD SECRET GAME UNTIL YOU GET THE EGG. After the third secret game, you can't use the video game stuff around the map anymore and the Egg is tied to that.
The Egg is a convoluted mess. If you really wanna avoid spoilers and just wanna figure it out on your own, then I'll just say it's in the games. Otherwise I do suggest you look up a guide for it.

After that, you want to finish the chapter normally. You'll feel like you need to do something else in the ending. Don't worry. Just finish the chapter normally, then reload your save. Then you'll be able to fight for the Shadow Crystal with an easy respawn. Which you'll need. For sure.
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>>712301640
Asgore was already in the house cleaning the bathroom while the phone call is happening, anon.
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>>712301640
Asgore is already in the house when the phone call is happening.
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>>712301640
Asgore doesn't do anything about the guitar
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>>712301752
>>712301765
WHERE IS THIS INFORMATION
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I can't wait for shit to hit the fan next chapter
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>>712301787
did you not explore the vents nigga
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>>712301635
Thank you, Gerson...
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If the soul was sourced by Gaster, would that mean Kris has a Dark Soul?
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>>712301767
>make a fucking masterpiece out of like 7 brush strokes and some scribbles
how the fuck do people do it
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>>712301539
Susie does too, they're fucking teens you freak.
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>>712301815
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>>712301815
What expression does this emotion convey
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OH MY DELTARUNE
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>>712301565
endgame is reviving dess and fixing their families, that's the only thing that makes sense
carol likely is unable to do that, probably SOUL fuckery
we have zero idea on what carol/ kris/ dess think of the prophecy, at best we know kris knows it because if you inspect the shadow crystal in the final room it says that the words remain unchanged, be we don't know them
i believe asgore is a third agent in this, maybe he concocted some plan with rudy that's outside of what kris and carol are doing, he might have an idea that carol is up to something but i don't think he knows kris is involved
i think toriel was up to some bad shit in the past involving dess, keeping her asleep when she's around seemed to be priority #1
gatchaball probably muffed everything outside enough to where she just slept normally, it was the middle of the night after all
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>>712301787
You go to the Bathroom while venting. Asgore is there and says:
>* Dum dee dum...
>* Phew! Cleaning up sure works up an appetite.
>* ... I wonder if the kitchen has any treats for me...
>* ... No. Not now. I can't afford to take a break.
>* Now, more than ever... I need to concentrate.
>* ... to settle this once and for all.
>* ... I've got to go look again.

Then if you go to Carol's room, he's there and says:
>* We're almost there, aren't we, old friend?
>* This time for sure... Tori will finally see.
>* ... see what really happened.
>* ... that I just wanted to... protect everyone...
>* And this time, she'll have to believe me.
>* ... they all will.
>* Then...
>* We'll all be a happy family again... won't we?
>* ...
>* It sure is beautiful, isn't it...?
>* ... this black shard.
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Berdly fucking TANKED Snowgrave btw, he'll be back to whoop (Your) ass in the weird route finale
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I'm going to believe Gerson until the very end bros
He HOPEpilled me both for the game's story conclusion and real life
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>>712300225
That's booze and not chocolate milk, right?
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>>712301751
eggs dont matter, but ty for the rest. I heard about them and fucked up already. I just dont wanna miss the extra super bosses because of gameplay. Im gonna do the eggs near the final releases of this.
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I found fetish art of CHimata from Touhou getting SPAMTONed

What do you think of the Spamtonification fetish?
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>>712301923
JUST LEAVE ME ALONE
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>>712301640
I'm thinking the white text is Asgore and red text is Carol.
The (YOU) are always welcome line isn't so much an acknowledgement of us the player, though it might very well be, and more of a hint that she's the red text on the phone.
Both are working together for the same end, Carol is just way more ruthless about it.
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>>712301923
annoyance
or jealousy
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>>712301441
Be the BIG SHOT TV S-tar
Between each round pay a visit to the S rank room AND also after the scenery grows cold
Make sure to save after a certain fight, to the left
Struggle
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I kinda hope Asriel isn't very plot relevant. Dude deserves a happy and quiet life after the shit his alternate dimension self goes through.
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>>712301635
Sans Undertale will appear in my autistic Sonic x Shin Megami Tensei fan comic.
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>>712300387
Which hand
>kris's goner hand
>his missing original hand
>Dess combined with the missing hand

All of these are possible

Thinking about it, and the hand holes in the knight's design, I wonder if a fountain was made by stabbing a person
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kris was groomed by dess...
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Come here you stupid lizard
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wait a minute so,deltarune in this game is their religion, a book, and a game based on the book?
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>>712302015
White text is Dess (armor) red is Carol
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>>712300763
Where do I find this???
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>>712301952
>>* It sure is beautiful, isn't it...?
>>* ... this black shard.
Between that, the flower monster in Swordgrave and the prophecy labelling him as a boss, I'm pessimistic about his survival.
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>>712301908
Kek
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>>712301980
kris is a good boy despite is absolute dog life
you can see milk in the glass before he pours in the chocolate syrup
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>>712302084
Also somehow, the Deltarune symbol is visible from all angles
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>>712300923
>the yellow monster throwing red spears in the secret zelder game goes berserk if you kill all the flowers first
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>>712302038
Asriel is 100% out of the loop he's gonna come home and be like "heh, that's my quiet town, there's my normal family, and there's my gender ambiguous sibling who just pranks people. what a calm place where nothing happens at all :)" and Kris will hit him with the Frisk Look -_- as the stinger
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So we definitely need to have the flat soda and beat Gerson for the true end
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Why is grandpa Gerson so.....
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There will be a kino moment where redeemed Kris and you fight together as one and instead of his normal sword he'll be wielding YOU that has turned into a sword shape.
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>>712301356
Not so fast...
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It boggles my mind how there are still retards who believe that there will only be one bad ending as dictated by Prophecy, especially after Susie, the most rebellious character, was mentored by the most hopepilled person ever. That being said, I figured out how it is going to go
>Normal Route will seemingly end badly, bittersweet with emphasis on bitter
>but then Susie will say: "To hell with that, it can't be the end, there is something we still can do"
>meanwhile Snowgrave will end up with Kris finding strength to fight (You) and reset everything, erasing your evil deeds
>but there's a reason why he kept ThornRing instead of getting rid of it
>Gerson said he can still get some good ideas on bad route, right? Walking between the lines?
>so the key is keeping the ThornRing from aborted Snowgrave and crafting TwistedSword which will be available through the hole now
>this will allow you to replay NormalRoute with Kris having actual agency and say in the matters and achieve the actual one ending
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>>712300763
Mancountry is also a pun on Toby's home town of Manchester New Hampshire.
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>>712302219
I'd let Gerson hammer me ;)
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>>712302219
He's been carrying a lot of weight
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>>712300763
it's possible that "home" is death, because kris's body is a corpse. The eggman dimension is the space between life and death
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>>712302219
no fucking wonder why he was the one monster to fight the humans and not get dusted
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>>712302073
I wanna copypaste a greentext fanfic I read years back that's specifically about this exact scenario but I don't know if that counts as stealing.
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>>712300387
not sure I agree with those lyrics, they're pretty hard to understand

I did stumble upon another Hand reference though. Jevil mentions the Knight's hand in both of his defeat monologues, although his wording is a bit different depending on if you go Pacifist or not. If you recall, Queen also mentions the Knight "stretching out his hand" in her pre-mecha monologue. I think that's enough to establish a theme

Maybe Kris is "the Knight's hand"? It's possible that Kris was responsible for opening up the dark world for Chapter 2. There are other "hand" references associated with Kris that people have gotten pretty deep into otherwise, as well. That would reconcile the old "Kris is the Knight" theories with the Roaring Knight reveal in ch 3: he's not "the Knight" himself, he's just "the Knight's hand"...
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>>712302109
in the crossroads before returning to the green room, go south instead of north
then get caught by the single zapper at the short wall and tell him you're a cheater, and you're going nowhere
then you're teleported to a room with another game, if you throw the box from the lancer dig puzzle across the river in a place where you can push it from behind you can activate the switch that opens up the wall that leads you to that guy
you also have to do this before the final mantle game
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>>712301986
FEAR OF LIVING ON
NATIVES GETTING RESTLESS NOW
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>>712302081
HNNNNNG
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>>712302303
No it doesn't, post it.
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Noelle was raped in the sweltering hot summer of '25
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>>712301957
He Has Two Paths Now
ReAwakened By His Own Power/Determination
Or "Piles Of Berdly's Dust" Darkner Boss Battle
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>>712301946
I think the idea is that the Prophecy is absolute. It can't be changed.
But you CAN change who is who in it.

The Shadow Crystals show us the original timeline, how it is meant to play out. Angry Susie, Noelle whispering to us, no Kris (see through hand), Frozen Undyne.
So it was originally:
>Hero 1 - Vessel
>Hero 2 - Noelle
>Hero 3 - I don't know, but probably not Ralsei. Lancer maybe?
>Angel - (YOU)

But Carol somehow found out and something BAD happens to Hero 2. So the plan is to replace the heroes with her own layout:
>Hero 1 - Kris
>Hero 2 - Susie
>Hero 3 - Raslei
>Angel - Still (YOU)

Weird Route is where we use this plan against them to escape our own fate by making Noelle stronger and putting a new SOUL in her, thus
>Heroes - Same
>Angel - Noelle
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>>712300225
he said this
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>>712302284
>"You're gonna carry that weight."
- Gerson, probably.
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>>712302346
Sure.
CHAPTER 1:
>Kris opened the back door and quietly stepped out in to the night.
>It was freezing out and it didn’t help that all Kris had on was a t-shirt and some boxers.
>He quietly cursed as he mulled over why Dess would ask him to sneak out to the spot she, him, Noelle, and Asriel visited during Halloween.
>Also why not just walk with him instead of telling him to come alone?
>After awhile of marching on the fallen leaves that paved Kris’ way through the forest, he reached the destination.
>A large oak tree stood before him.
>He would’ve ran in to it had the moon not been illuminating it.
>Kris is startled by the sound of footsteps.
>He weakly calls out Dess’ name.
>No response.
>”Boo!”
>Kris’ scream was halted by a hand over his mouth.
>”Calm down, Kris. It’s just me.”
>The boy tilted his back to see Dess was the one who scared him.
>He pulls away from the older doe and begins puffing out his cheeks in anger.
>”Come on, it was funny. Plus, you scare Noelle ALL the time. It’s only fair you get hit back.”
>Dess laughed.
>As much as Kris wanted to make a retort, there was nothing he could say to defend himself.
>So instead, he asked Dess why she called him out here.
>A small smirk formed on her face when Kris asked that question.
>”I just told you, Kris. It’s only fair you get hit back for scaring Noelle all the time.”
>Kris rubbed his arm and apologized for scaring Noelle.
>”An apology is nice, Kris, but…”
>Dess stepped closer.
>”That isn’t gonna make up for all the stuff you’ve put my little sister through.”
>Kris backs up in response to another step from Dess.
>Eventually, his back is up against the large oak as Dess stares down at him.
>Her smirk now having turned in to a wide grin.
>Kris was shaking.
>”I’m gonna teach you what happens to bad kids like you.”
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>>712302208
>only true deltarune fans can meat this joke
what did i win?
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>>712301324
>Genuinely nice
If he was such a nice kid we wouldnt be having information hidden from us and he would actually communicate with us better than a drunken father when we are what his entire plan hinges on.

Kris is an absolute piece of worthless shit and deserves to see his plan blow up in his face and deeply traumatize him as we infatuate and fuck his childhood doe pussy.

>>712301815
Hope she gets to join the party in the dark world and freeze a bunch of shit to Susies horror resulting in a standoff
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>>712301351
>the coloured copies in mancountry are coloured-in goners.
Would be really cool if true. Do we have any real evidence on that (aside from similar sprites), though?
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Protect the deer
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>>712302393
(Chapter 1 continued)
>Dess pressed one of her hands against the hard oak tree and caressed Kris’ neck with the other.
>Kris’ eyes were beginning to well up with tears.
>”Are you scared, Kris?”
>”Scared of what I’m going to do to you?”
>Kris didn’t respond.
>Fear had caused him to clam up.
>His hands clasped around his chest and squeezed in to the fabric of his shirt.
>He didn’t like this prank.
>He didn’t like this at all.
>Dess squeezed Kris’ neck lightly and forced him to look her in the eyes.
>”This is your fault, by the way.”
>”Maybe you should’ve listened to Azzy and knocked off the pranking.”
>Tears began streaming down Kris’ face.
>Dess slowly let go of Kris’ neck and began running her hand down his chest.
>She traced a line right down to his crotch with her index finger.
>Dess, for a second, seemed surprised.
>Her smug grin growing even more wicked.
>“Are you enjoying this?”
>Kris shook his head.
>”Liar. Your friend down south proves otherwise.”
>Kris snapped back to reality in the moment he felt Dess’ touch move even lower south.
>In a reflex of pure fight or flight, Kris’ body chose the latter.
>He kicked off of the tree and barreled under Dess’ arm.
>He kept running, never looking back at Dess to see if she was giving chase.
>Through the forest, up the hill, and in to the house.
>Kris closed and locked the door behind him.
>His panic finally subsiding once he was back on familiar territory.
>He felt sick.
>But, he didn’t know what to do with this illness.
>So, he just shambled up the stairs and back in to his and Asriel’s bedroom.
>Asriel was still fast asleep.
>Climbing in to bed, Kris hugged himself.
>He didn’t understand what had just happened or why Dess did what she did.
>He didn’t want to think about it.
>It all had to be a nightmare.
>This is a nightmare.
>Kris closed his eyes and hoped that by morning, he’d wake up from it.
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>>712300783
>WHEN YOU'RE [Crying] IN A [Broken Home] WISHING YOU LET YOUR OLD PAL SPAMTON
>[Kill you]
that's unironically my favourite writing in the game yeah
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>>712302267
we're only at the half way point, anon
we're going to have to see susie break once she learns that kris is acting against her and ralsei and he's been possessed the entire time they've been friends
we will see the hope die in her eyes at some point
who knows how, or if, they'll be relit
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>>712301239
TRVST THE PLAN
HE WILL LIKE YOU BYT THE END DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT
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>>712302461
>Everything in Snowgrave is something Kris want deep down, rape included
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>>712302323
There was a hand swap of some kind where a hand was removed and replaced with a different hand. Between Kris, Dess and the Vessel, but I'm not clear which way the hands went. the knight has both hands intact but with holes in them (maybe they are stumps in the light world though?). Kris has the "gray" he cant wash out of his hand in the eggman therapy room indicating a vessel hand is on him.
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What is this thing and why is it such a buttslut
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>>712301142
the game is fun and you can get the first two chapters for free. if, after that, you think you'd be down to pay $25 to slightly more than double the content, then buy the full game.
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>>712302393
>>712302462
Put it in a goddamn pastebin or just link it for shits sake.
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The Susie vs Lancer fight was so blatantly foreshadowing Susie finding out Kris was working with the Knight it hurts
We're absolutely going to get a fight against Susie, 100%
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>>712302441
>tfw ralsei's town randomly has a random blue Rudinn now
The goners have infiltrated the dark worlds
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>>712302485
>toriel and sans vfx instenfies
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>>712301565
>If Carol, Dess, and Kris are working together, what is their endgame?
To fix their families and bring everything back to "how it should be." And make it so they'll never lose it again. Nobody has to leave, nobody has to change, nobody has to get hurt. Kris wants a "ticket to nowhere."
>Why doesn't Carol save her own daughter from the dark?
That's what she's trying to do. They couldn't save Dess the first time, but now that she's been changed into The Knight, maybe that power can ironically help save her.
>How do they benefit from pushing the prophecy further, or are they attempting to subvert it?
Dess's Black Knife is a Titan-killing weapon. The swords Carol has made are made of the same black glass. Dess might even have her own Shadow Mantle, based on how she looks flying away with Undyne and what happens if you try to equip the Shadow Mantle to Noelle.
Defeating The Knight is necessary to collect all of the Shadow Crystals, and it rewards you with your own Black Shard and strongly encourages you to get your own Shadow Mantle, the ultimate Anti-Titan Weapon and Armor. It's worth noting that Noelle can also equip the Black Shard (if, for example, you would rather have Kris wield the Twisted Sword).
Whether or not they want to cause The Roaring as some means to an end, they obviously don't want to destroy the world - they're preparing to fight and kill the Titans.
>Does Asgore really know what the three of them are doing or is he an unknowing peon?
He knows exactly as much as he needs to. Carol is using him, maybe to spy on Toriel, maybe using his code to access The Bunker. All he wants is to prove to Toriel that he was right about what happened the day Dess disappeared. He thinks that will change everything. He's wrong.
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>>712302558
Alright, here you go.
https archiveofourown org works 34855756 chapters 86791231
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>>712300923
I don't think I would be able to handle the cringe-inducement it would inflict upon Kris.
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>>712302187
Holy shit, you're right. This room is 100% referencing Asgore.
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>>712302360
I think all parts of the prophecy can change, it's just a matter of who's holding the pen. The adults are so burnt out they think they can just replace the pieces, the kids are rambunctious enough to actually try to change things.
100% believe in the end Ralsei will become a Light Nerd and live with Kris and Asriel comes home and is like "kris who tf is this"
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>>712302081
You now notice how her eye flashes to white instead of yellow for one frame.
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>>712302548
It's the lock.
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>>712302640
WTF! TOBY YOU FUCKING GENIUS!
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>>712302436
mentally ill
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>>712301269
possessing Dess's corpse
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>>712302640
>>712302695
>There's even 7 flowers in the room (they already killed the top right one there, bottom left is firing)
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>>712302360
>no kris (see through hand)

The twist that 3-4 introduced is that Kris appears to be a mix of parts between the original body and the vessel
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>>712300923
>talks to his flowers for emotional advice
>keeps them in glass in a cult like fashion
unless he's going in and out the dark worlds talking to them, i feel bad for schizo asgore
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>>712302461
>handholding
lewd
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>>712301825
It's all about Blocking anon. Especially with painting you first block the shapes first
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Kris is Josuke Jojolion
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>>712302640
Makes you wonder if the other rooms are referencing other NPCs
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>>712301815
female characters have the intimidation power of a wet noodle, even less when they try to act tough.
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>>712302763
He deserves it for being emotionally dependant on Toriel.
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>>712301589
>Chapter 5 is all but confirmed Flower King
>Next party member would be Ralsei
>"Ralsei is always getting mixed up with flowers"
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>>712302763
The plants will most likely only tell him what he wants to hear and not what he needs to hear too
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>>712302640
>>712302695
>>712302738
there's also a room where you fight a gray-colored fish and when you kill it all the yellow lizards kill themselves
there's also a room with a black monster that mirrors your movements that minikris kills on his own, but that mirror monster spawns with a variable named "toriel" enabled that if disabled reveals the monster to actually be a black deer
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>>712301335
every secret boss is being puppeteer'd by FRIEND whether they know of it or not like The Great Darkness from DC
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Blue lips
Blue veins
Blue, the color of our planet from far far away.
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>>712302187
>>712302640
There is another room that has, yellow dinosaurs and a single fish if you kill the fish the dinosaurs die on their own
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>>712302640
>>712302809
>Grey Fish surrounded by yellow lizards
I'm still not sure who the singing cat(?) is supposed to be
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>This is just halfway through the game
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post yfw Sans is in the Flower Kingdom and you fight him and Song That Will Play When You Fight Sans plays
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>>712301239
If the SOUL didn't enter his life he'd probably be wallowing in his misery as his family disintegrated around him. You got to guide him to a better future and pray you don't instead make things worse in the long run because nobody can see what's at the other end of Toby's wild ride.
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>>712302809
We know the room with the Black Monster that mirrors your movements is actually referencing Dess. There's some variable called "Toriel" that changes it to the monster, otherwise it's a black deer. The Ice Mage in the previous game also turns into a normal deer if there's no "Toriel" variable.
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update on my sooz
lineart is pretty much final, i just roughed out the bg and colors to have a starting point
i know this scene takes place in front of the fountain, but i want an analogous palette from blue to red (especially to emphasize susie's blood), and to show the beautiful backgrounds of chapter 4. so I might add more pink/purple into the bg and the fountain will go behind susie somewhere, but i don't want that to take away from the contrast.
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KISS
THE
MY
ASS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOwsh1xtLLs
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>>712302038
>pic
asriel and dess were clearly fucking
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>>712301815
>>712301908
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>>712302073
i want to groom dess, and by groom i mean play with the slightly longer fur on her taut tomboy tummy
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>>712302485
Yeah that stood out hard with snowgrave and other shit going on. Dont think hes lying.
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>>712302720
Shut the fuck up you limp wristed basedboy.

Kris is an awful fucking person and any criminal or potential criminal you ever meet will take advantage of you if you cannot recognize that.
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>>712302809
there are two deer sprites that get changed
the brown deer turns into the ice mage, clearly supposed to be noelle
there's also a black deer, that turns into the shadow monster that mirrors kris' movement
the black deer is turned into the shadow monster due to a variable called 'toriel'
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>>712302691
its the metronome you can find on the left room
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What the fuck is he thinking right now?
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>>712303038
fucking christ anon
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>>712303023
>Toriel is going to help cover up murder
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>>712303102
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>>712302938
I genuinely think Chapter 5 might start with Sans waking us up in the morning, dragging us into an Undertale fight screen and doing his opening monologue
>"on days like this, kids like you... should be headed to the festival"
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>>712303031
beautiful based retard
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>>712303174
toby's been setting this up since chapter 1 saying "it's a beautiful day outside"
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>>712303083
>>712303158
Go to deltarune.com/lostwheretheforestwouldgrow and click the tree
It plays the first note of Fallen Down pitched down
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>>712302923
>I'm still not sure who the singing cat(?) is supposed to be
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABz5_dNliMI

>GYA HA HA
>You're giving up?
>Stand back and let me give that BIG BLACK NIGGER TITAN a WHOPPER!
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>>712303158
I think the point is Toriel's dreaming is interfering with the game, changing the sprites into monsters.
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im so excited to see the all suffering in 5, 6, and beyond
susie
ralsei
noelle
kris
dess
the catharsis will be incredible
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>>712303174
>"on days like this, kids like y-"
>SOUL immediately attacks out of pure muscle memory, killing him on the spot
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>>712303082
Kris is trying his best, nigga. (You) can show him hope.
Weird route already confirms Kris isn't a bad kid.
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>>712303023
to be fair, the sprite it's replaced by is a goat head that is used for other goat characters (asgore, the hoard of goats in the one room , which is curious)
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>>712303174
there's a high chance susie and kris gave up on hometown that night and retreated into castle town, ralsei did say they were welcome if things got bad out there
susie clearly doesn't want to go home and kris looked like he was about to jump out the window when he gets the call in the normal ending
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>>712303270
>Catharsis
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>>712303270
>6, and beyond
Debunked by Gerson Boom, Chapters 6 and beyond do not exist
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>>712303286
>The muscle memory is actually an immediate jump out of bed, as Sans's first attack requires you to jump immediately
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>>712303332
jesus christ what is that kek
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>>712302565
and it's going to use the exact same BGM and it's going to be absolut kinografie
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>>712303253
>Make sure to stomp the fetuses, Susie
how did toby fox get away with it?
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>>712301908
>>712303038
good posts
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>>712303168
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>>712303270
being heroes is suffering
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>>712303359
Weapons-grade cringe fangame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQnGfCSs-a4
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>>712301984
>eggs don’t matter
He doesn’t know
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>>712303332
I wonder how much the Deltatraveler devs have shit themselves now that they've been thoroughly BTFO on the Genocide route bullshit
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the knight definately doesnt look human as we saw at the end of chapter 3 but it ressembled a character we know which is dess
the knight definately doesnt look human as we saw at the end of chapter 3 but it ressembled a character we know which is dess

the explanation as to why this could be is the knight is desses cancer which turned into a character from going into the dark world
it ressembles dess because cancer is essentially your cells that have broken off in a way and are distorted

ALSO The knight is hard to beat and guess what also is? Cancer. Wing cancer.

Wing cancer sounds like Gaster. Gaster cannot communicate with lighteners naturally, so he is manifesting as cancer to manipulate dess and make dess open a portal to light world
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>>712303359
>he wasn't around for you're genocides posting in the weeks leading up to 3+4
you missed out
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>>712303310
The school is locked, bro. And the phone call is what keeps Kris inside, he's chained by the promise.
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>just beat chapter 4
>gerson showing up in the final fight
HOLY FUCKING KINOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>712303031
kiss the My Ass is such a good gag on multiple levels that I'm actually a little sad it was discovered this early in history
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>>712303341
I think 6 and 7 may be 4A and 5A. the route diverges if you go back to the end of 3 and either purify the knight with the all-crystals item or have all 3 bunker codes
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>>712303431
Not enough. Deltatraveler and R.V. Pines are still going to force December to be tr*ns
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>>712303436
>WINGCANCER THEORY
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WHAAAAAAAAA??? *JAW DROPS A FEW UNIVERSES DOWNWARDS* Despite my HIGHEST EFFORTS to INTERFERE with the TIMELINE, and METICULOUSLY giving SPECIFIC individuals SCHIZO CRYSTALS, it only took ONE TURTLE to KEK me out of my PLAN??? MY DELTARUNE??? GERSON-SAMA was so HIGH TESTOSTERONE that he decided there was NOTHING I could actually OFFER HIM, and ACTIVELY DEFIED the PROPHECY??? Rendering it COMPLETELY FUCKING POINTLESS to THROW myself into the CORE, KEKKING myself out of EXISTING across TIME and SPACE, only remembered by my FOLLOWERS known as "GOONERS" that exist in ONE IN ONE MILLION save files, as a LAST MINUTE COSMIC PARDON from the GOVERNOR of CIRCUMSTANCE??? MY GREATEST GRATITUDES, TOBY-SENSEI!!! AND all I'm capable of doing is WATCHING other people EXIST where I CANNOT, and they get to EXPERIENCE every range of EMOTION, FREE WILL, and SEX, yabba dabba DOOMING me to the ultimate KEKKING?? The KEKKING of EXISTENCE ITSELF???? THIS EXPERIMENT IS VERY VERY INTERESTING, YABBER DABBER YET DOOERRRRRR!!!!!!!
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>>712303237
Oh, that makes sense
... very interesting
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>>712303436
this is actually 100% true

t. toby fuchs
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>>712303350
>"geez kid, all i did was say it's a beautiful day. no need to jump like something was about to come outta your bed."
>"didja get enough sleep last night?"
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>>712303332
I still can't help but laugh seeing this or the King version
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>Chapter 3
>Tenna says "Your mother USED to love cooking"
>Knows you and Asreil cooked but fucked up
Hmmmmmmmm
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>>712303436
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>>712303447
i highly doubt some flimsy lock is going to keep kris and susie out of the school if they really wanted to get in, there's already some tire slashing maniac on the loose smashing in a window isn't that far off
who's going to catch them? napstablook?
and if anyone can sway kris away from carol, it's susie, kris stops fucking around with the knight if she and ralsei are down, he clearly cares a lot about them
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>>712303509
ok fuck me that's funny
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>>712302219
A turtle's penis length is equal to 40% of its body length
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I miss the guy who said Ralsei is based on a dead kid
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>>712303558
All any Deltatraveler screenshot needs is to have Mystery Man edited in and it will look like Human I remember You're shitpost
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>>712303509
>YABBER DABBER YET DOOERRRRRR!!!!!!!
kekaroni
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>>712303509
>YABBA DABBA YET DOOER
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All that talk of bee urself last thread made me think of rather than Noelle being jealous, a variant plays out on what kind of fucked up stuff she'd like Susie to do with her and it ends up creeping the fuck out of Susie
>Susie taking a chunk of cotton candy with her maw
>"Oh gosh, I wish that was my face..."
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>>712303102
>AHH SHIT I GET IT TOO NOW
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>>712303436
cancer is alive m8. very much fucking alive in fact that cancer cells don't naturally die out so it can't "turn into a character" darkner style. it also has no identity. the whole point of cancer being an issue is that the cells lose their identities and eventually sepukku themselves and everything around them from lack of coordination.

the knight is 300% dess herself, but she's powered up by darker than dark titan cum and somehow under the control of whatever the fuck is going on in the shelter.
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>that face Susie makes when she asks what Kris and Noelle were talking about
>everything goes red and silent
uhhh I don't think I wanna continue this route anymore
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>>712303550
going from
>Meh, probably some weakling who survived with cunning. Props to use the store mechanic against me I guess.
to
>DUAL BUSTER TIME LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO
was something
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>>712302640
We've been saying this forever in these threads. The room with the greyed out fish and the yellow dragons is obviously Undyne, what I assume to be a Goner version of her or as the game describes them, "copy" Undyne. Another room has a shadow that mimics you, once you press the switch you take control of it and take it near Kris who instinctively kills it when you get close. According to datamine that's a black deer that changes sprites with a Toriel variable, so it's Dess/The Knight, likely betrayed at the hands of Kris in Snowgrave. So far those are the dots connected.
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>>712303509
this is so fucking stupid why did I laugh
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Why doesn't Kris just drink the Ketchup
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>>712303667
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>>712303704
Kris was NOT gonna let you answer that question
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>>712302923
Temmie of course
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>>712303083
>the black deer is turned into the shadow monster due to a variable called 'toriel'
I wish so badly that it's revealed that Toriel is the reason something horrible happened with Dess and that she finally gets the comeuppance she deserved in Undertale.
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>>712303681
tfw the only reason Noelle likes Susie is because she reminds her of Dess
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https://youtu.be/RfOulZbmmWA?si=KTANwxNHL-54B-sT
>Black Knife reversed is a modified lost girl motif
it's doever for carolfags
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>>712303704
Is kris too shell shocked to give one of the 4 nonexsitent replies? Or was noelle making a response from somewhere where it wasn't raining?
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>>712301142
I've been on this train since 2018 and had a blast even in the gaps, with the massive amount of discussions, (schizo)theories, fanart and fanworks. If anything I feel bad for people who didn't get on board earlier, fan perception of Deltarune was massively different both in 2018 when it was just one chapter and 2021 when it was two chapters.
This thread will now remember that at one point in time Jevil was immensely popular, long ago before Spamton completely overshadowed him
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Anyone has a save-file directly on Gerson's fight?
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>>712303791
Noelle is a siscon?
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>>712301923
grrr
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So Weird route is just manipulating the prophecy not breaking it right? Otherwise Gaster would be made we aren't making his Deltarune
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>>712303803
you don't need to reverse the notes to hear lost girl in the black knife/nightmare knight leitmotif, in fact reversing the notes makes it less obvious
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>>712303681
noelle says what all of us think
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when i had a "going into games" machine - this woulve been in 202X- i used to go into delta rune A LOTand one of my fav things to do was jitterbug toriel at the kris house. one of the great things about fondling video games characters is they don't fight back or struggle because they don't recognise u as a player character..it's like you dont exist. but let me tell you, she smelled like SHIT. in fact everybody in that game did..I got used to it after a while but that first moment when i smelt toriel up close..i was almost sick. she looks clean & nice when you see her on gasters survey program but when ur there stood next to her its a different story. The machine was broken in the end and im kinda sad nobody could fix it
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>>712300293
He was probably looking for Nowhere or Man Island. Unfortunately for him both existed in some kind of pocket dimension behind the actual game so he couldn't physically get there.
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>>712303803
It could just be used for the entire Holiday family because it's also used for Noelle's theme
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>>712303384
swap kris and susie then replace kris with our soul and BAM deltarune
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>>712303803
I can't really hear it.
But this I can.
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https://youtu.be/OCJ4K_i9Yac

theme of spending a week staying up until sunrise reading fucking deltarune theories for the third time in my life
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>>712303102
He's our fucking hype man bro he loves to see it when we kick ass
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>>712301628
this pic made me realize that the relationship these two have can't continue if they were to ever enter a relationship with anybody other than each other
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>>712303803
!
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>>712303803
I think it's more that the two melodies can be put on top of each other to get the complete song

check this at 23:00 or so
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>asgore has a schizo crystal
>flower king is about to go up in flames
>tensions rising right before the festival
>things are slated to get even worse
I wonder how bad things will get before the Final Tragedy is revealed.
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>>712303550
No wonder he resisted the schizoing
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>I am a SOUL, a SOUL
>I'll give ya something that ya won't forget
>I said ya shouldn't have a-worn that THORN
>I said ya shouldn't have a-worn that THORN, worn that THORN
>I know you want what's on my mind
>I know you like what's on my mind
>I know it eats you up inside
>I know you know, you know, you know
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>>712303803
>>712304004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9MzyOh0eV4&t=1323s
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>>712303509
these just keep getting better
god bless
someone needs to make a compilation
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>>712303427
I mean to me right now, just doing my first run. I already fucked up. Im carrying snowgrave to its grand finale, then mercy on release, and ill deal with the eggs then. Im not gonna worry about something that wont be done until like 2027
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>>712304015
>asgore has a schizo crystal
He has a chip of the Knight's sword, actually.
My man fought the Knight and TANKED everything she threw at him.
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>>712303550
the fact that this guy's name is a competitive Smash Bros 64 reference that I recognized on day 1 of Undertale's release has made his increased story relevance really weird to me
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>>712304015
he has a black shard not a shadow crystal
he fought the knight and won
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>>712303302
>the hoard of goats in the one room
By killing sans you are killing hundreds of potential goats
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>>712303848
>Otherwise Gaster would be made we aren't making his Deltarune
He specifically brought us to Deltarune to "CREATE A NEW FUTURE"
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>>712303803
>Dess is the Lost Girl speaking to you from the depths of the code and you have to find her
>But she's also the knight and appears right in front of you several times and can enter the light world whenever
I truly don't get it. Am I the stupid one? How is it not Carol?
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>>712303168
why does ralsei still use his chapter 1 sprite for menu stuff?
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>>712300225
What if the only real way into the shelter is Snowgrave and we're not going there on normal route? The game teases getting into the bunker
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>>712303839
with how much Noelle was obsessed with trying to find her sister right after her disappearance, it only makes sense she'd eventually latch to someone who's just like her
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>>712303779
it's not a stretch of the imagination to assume toriel hated dess
dess was clearly someone both asriel and kris adored, and toriel couldn't do anything about it because they were neighbours and rudy was asgore's best friend
it's heavily implied that asriel was dess' boyfriend, and since dess has been described as a musical prodigy i wouldn't be surprised if she was the one who taught kris piano, or at least inspired him to pick it up
although i don't think toriel set up dess going missing, there's a good chance she was the one who got the ball rolling with her disappearing, maybe she mentioned something about the shelter when dess was in earshot, knowing that she would want to check it out
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>>712304078
what? context?
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>>712303602
the way the scene is framed, especially with the fucking
>don't forget
and
>promise
line drop, is that whatever those things are what keeps kris on the knights side. and despite him getting stronger, he still lets the knight take them out by kneeling and feigning defeat. and we know that Kris likes a good fight from the mantle. he may care alot about them, but the guilt is strong.
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>>712303848
I still think weird route is the prophecy
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>>712304106
She may be in front of you but her spirit is lost in the darkness.
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>look up at the moon
>there is a titan spawn on it
TOBYYYYYYYYYYY
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Did Susie seeing Toriel drunk and dancing with Sans affect her? Also, you guys had better write ass as your name for the game show.
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>>712304147
good post
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>>712304113
even he knows he's cuter that way
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>>712304015
The goofy flower man everyone like to makes fun of has a black shard. Implying he's fought the knight or something similar in a dark world.
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>>712300225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNG0Ay3B3Mk
Post yfw
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If Kris still has his own soul then he wouldn't struggle to move without ours. His soul is gone or altered by us being in him.
People saying his hand is gone currently and replaced are off the mark. It's forshadowing that he will lose it. While there are a lot of references to a missing hand we haven't learnt about anything strange with his hand currently, i.e. Toby has chosen to not describe anything strange with Kris's current hand. Thus it is more likely that his hand isn't gone yet but will be lost in the future.
Chapter 1s shadow crystal is suspiscious, but again, I repeat my point, we haven't actually heard anything strange about his hand in other ways. The Knight having holes in their hand is interesting, but it's neither here nor there.
If you want to make a theory base it off more than one piece of evidence and make something that is likely, not something that is "technically possible".
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>>712304202
>Also, you guys had better write ass as your name for the game show.
I kekked so hard when I saw Susie had the same idea
I probably wouldn't have if Tenna didn't directly challenge me by saying 4 letters would be too much for the censors
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Gerson and Spamton are neat but will Toby ever use the Orange and Cyan hearts for any gimmicks?
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>>712304132
https://youtu.be/eiQp5w-9IAE

two players, Gerson and SuperBoomFan (aka Boom)
Gerson vs Boom

they "turtled" for almost an hour. get it? turtle?
(I'm pretty sure they stopped playing on Hyrule Castle and started playing on modded games that had a timer function after this happened)
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>>712301324
He was a little piece of shit, but he was likeable piece of shit who just wanted to be cool like an older girl living next door.
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>>712304273
Considering he skipped Purple I kind of doubt it, sadly
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ONE THING

I DON'T KNOW WHY

I LISTENED TO SANS FUCK MY MOM ALL NIGHT
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>>712304240
just means he's next chapters special boss, asgore revamped EX
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>>712304124
Noelle is painfully lonely, her close chuldhood friend abandoned her thanks to the trauma and her big sister figure abandoned, we don't know Asriel's relationship with Noelle but we can just assume it also matters
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>>712304241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ03-aaO4sA

>Mfw the song hit again at the end
Fucking legendary moment
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>>712304273
They will be the same soul and will work like Ikaruga
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>>712304202
>Did Susie seeing Toriel drunk and dancing with Sans affect her?
Of course it did. Not hard to get the impression that Susie might be a neglected kid and see the perfect impression of toriel she had in her head shatter in real time was not pleasant for her.
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In a perfect world...
Men like me would not exist...
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>>712303808
>this is actually Noelle's option prompt
>audio and rain go away because Noelle is inside her house
>she didn't hear the question so all the answers are blank
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I think all of the cast of Undertale Likely escaped the destruction of the world and erased their memories, replacing it with a fake one of a war. Sans set it up so he was the only one that would rememember. He's Leder from Mother 3.
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So is Noelle the angel or (Us)?
Both have angel symbolism. Is that why we are grooming Noelle on the snowgrave route and planting our seed in her?
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>>712304345
Why is he holding the black shard instead of the ring?
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>>712301908
>>712303038
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creampieing kris while she whimpers like a puppy
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>>712302267
You guys are fucking insane if you think the good ending of a 7 chapter game will require you to finish it and then play it again, 80% of the playthrough being the same shit.
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>>712304240
what if that's why the knight was trying to capture Toriel, to make Asgore do what they want
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>>712304379
Us, together, seem to be the first hero. Cage and HUMAN SOUL.

Us being the first hero AND the angel might not make too much sense, and I doubt us getting banished is the ultimate goal.
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nerf the knight
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>>712304202
No. I edited the game files so I could spell FUC
Toby had coded a failsafe still and my made me cry laughing, which was Tenna absolutely shocked, Ralsei as well and Susie laughing her ass off as it cuts out to technical issues screen and Tenna rearranges so it says FUN
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>>712301324
>>Kris is a genuinely nice kid
Remember what Ramb and the Shadow Mantle say about Kris
He used to have fun being violent and evil, the blade has grown dull
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>>712304379
We're the Angel and Noelle herself isn't
The reason for Noelle's angel symbolism is that we, the angel, are prophesized to control her
>LOVE FINDS ITS WAY TO THE GIRL
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>>712300225
>Sans bleeds in Undertale
>Susie bleeds at the end of Chapter 4
Fuck he really is from Deltarune isn't he
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>>712304076
>>712304079
>>712304240
>fight the knight and win
>see ex-wife with skeletal jackass
>home/business burn down
Asgore...had a hard life...
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>>712304474
if you haven't beaten the knight within thirty minutes of attempts, considering you've at least beaten sans before, what are you doing
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Why didn't they want Toriel to wake up in the dark world? It sounded like it'd be more than a simple inconvenience.
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>>712304202
>repeatedly looks to Kris
>Kris looks away in shame
>would rather go back to her shitty foster care apartment than stay
Clearly
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>>712304202
susie spend two chapters putting toriel on a pedestal of being a great motherly figure, only for it to be destroyed in an instant by a wasted toriel fucking up her name, calling her 'honey' and then telling her to sleep in asriel's bed was too much, she had to bail for her own sanity
also yeah i put in ass the first time not thinking it would do anything only to kek when susie did it and kek even louder when the game acknowledged it
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>>712302461
I genuinely let this scene play out on my snowgrave run. And even when I knew what I had to do I hesistated. Ruining that good moment, what Kris did for Noelle last night, is definitely the worst thing we've done so far. That does not feel good at all. Killing Berdly was whatever, at least we made Noelle stronger in a twisted way and learnt her to stand up for herself more. But chapter 4? That is just indefensible
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>>712304376
I've thought that the best explanation for the loss of the rest of the humans is that they all died and their souls liquidated into the darkness underground, which is a river of determination used to make fountains. The big bald man titan supports this theory.
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>>712304548
>>712304558
Nani?!
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>>712304428
It's not out of the question.
Asgore is a friend of two holidays
Asgore used to be the police chief before undyne
Asgore used to go to church with toriel and this kids.
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>>712301908
>>712303038
These posts alone justify all the Deltarune threads
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>>712304548
>>712304558
bros?
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Sonic and the Black Knight theory looks more and more legitimate with each passing day
No I will not elaborate or explain it
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>>712304548
>>712304558
traumamind
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>>712302487
>>712304427
You will be forced to see every avenue of despair before seeing the true end
Yes, that includes the grim Snowgrave route, you will do it to gain insight
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>>712304548
>>712304558
susiemind
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>>712304558
What in tarnation
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>>712304558
>>712304548
KYAAAAAAA G-GASTER-SAMA!!! I KNEEL I KNEEL
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>>712304485
Red herring.
Weird dialogue implies Kris went out of his way, without us, to go
>make Noelle feel better and tell her everything was a dream, there is no thorn, here's your watch back sorry for taking it, just a prank kiss kiss love you see you in the morning this is a dream by the way
Kris loving a good fight is implying he's like Gerson. He's a hero, he enjoys challenges and difficulties, but he doesn't want to harm those close to him.
He beats the shit out of us in the weird route for a reason, my man. It doesn't get more crystal clear than that.
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Aborted Snowgrave is the Kriselle route for sure
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I missed the shadow crystal in chapter 2
I hope Toby doesn't cuck me out of the good ending
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>>712304379
Noelle is not "the" Angel. The Fun Gang gets to see what The Angel looks like and whatever they see it's definitely not Noelle. Also she's probably one of "the girl"s mentioned.
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>>712303726
avoiding the diabeastie
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>still the hardest boss in the game
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>>712304653
You have a whole year to replay 2-4 anon, hop to it.
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>>712304485
>Remember what Ramb and the Shadow Mantle say about Kris
>He used to have fun being violent and evil, the blade has grown dull
Am I the only one that feels like this is supposed to be some Flowey-esque mental fuckery?
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>>712304406
It's a thorn, which is what the thornring is in the light world
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>>712304678
>best boss
ftfy
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>>712304645
>normal route is Krusie
>snowgrave is Suselle
>twisted is Kriselle
You like?
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>>712304548
Two bros
One mind
One speaks the arrows and the other, the graph.
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>obtain TwistedSword
>start new game
>locker scene happens
>Susie asks him "How does that sound?"
>Kris chooses an answer himself before she can cut him off
>"My choices DO matter"
Post yfw this happens
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toby you have the perfect opportunity with him being the main boss of chapter 5 please give asgore actual development and make him more than epic divorce man you've hurt his reputation enough with eggs husband
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>>712304541
Well, what happens to your make-believe when a parent gets involved?
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>>712304713
what about Krirdly
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>>712304621
nah i fucking refuse to touch weird route stuff. I never enjoyed doing evil routes in games. Makes me uncomfortable.
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>>712304427
We'll just speedrun through it. That's what Chapter 0 and Chapter 10 are all about.



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