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>You killed my games. Now I kill you.
It didn't have to be like this.
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Free me, Ross.
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... more on that later, but first I want to talk about the music.
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>>713648035
I shop only on GOG. Their games are DRM free and do no die. Check mate autists!
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The mold of death...
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>>713648035
Kill all furries, no exceptions or mercy.
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>>713648035
>It didn't have to be like this.
Shocking truth!
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>>713648035
So by killing me you're saying that devs should support their games forever.
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>>713648035
I'm getting increasingly worried someone will try a smear campaign on Ross, the man is too genuine and hasn't done anything racist or edgy online so last resort would probably be just straight up lying
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>>713648667
*CLICK*
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Seriously, why the FUCK was Pirate stupid enough to insist that he only has "two videos" where he talks about it when the previous VODs not only had the relevant parts saved, but are also viewable?
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>>713648667
>oh you're so close of getting it
*load gun*
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Who would win in a fight: mold or a tranny furry industry plant?
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>>713648667
翧 筌 韫 縏 I worked at winter storm
nepo 駰 晞 baby
沌 庅 韢 撂 Maldavius Figtree
MANA GEM 焷 藖 姤 鯟 鴰 柿 柽 COCKROACH
voice synth 嵌 領 渟 ferretfuck
佗 崅 耸 Animal Well 腿 嶟 谀 述 酡 自 纲
8 years 斎 碖 黴 圢 no game
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>>713648773
because he genuinely thinks any publicity is good publicity, he described himself as a "master manipulator" when this last happened and then just blocks anyone that calls him stupid
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Seriously though, does anyone actually really, genuinely care about the games being killed? I know "game preservationists" care, but those freaks think literally everything should be preserved. If you made a "game" that was just moving a piece of turd around the screen and nothing else, I'm sure they'd say it needs to be preserved.

But does anyone truly, genuinely want to play The Crew? Even if someone made a private server for it, how long before it gets shut down due to lack of interest?
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>>713648812
mold 10 times over
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>>713648793
>close of getting it
good morning saar
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SO LONG JUDAS
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>>713649002
Not The Crew but sure there are some live service games that I'd like to play.
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>>713649002
Not the crew, but I do want to play NFS 2015 which one day will be offline forever.
If there was some sort of legislation back when it released it would get an offline patch, the game requires no online at all, it's too late for that game since this initiative is for future games, not retroactive.
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>>713648812
theyre both scrawny but I'm pretty sure Jason hasnt thrown a punch in his entire life
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>>713649002
>But does anyone truly, genuinely want to play The Crew?
Not really, but there are games from around 2010-2020 that will be forever lost in time unless we do something.
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>>713649226
And the excess estrogen flowing through his body has rendered him weak
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>>713649141
So long jewdas
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>calls himself pirate software
>he's anti piracy

he should pirate a fucking brain, cause he has zero readin comprehension
he should also pirate some friends. no wonder why people hate him
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>>713648035
>asmongold sides with piratesoftware's take
damn shame but also not surprising in the slightest
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>GAAS shit
You know, maybe some games deserve to be lost
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>>713649331
mongs of a feather flock together.
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>>713649141
SO LONG JEWDAS
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>>713649002
I dont want games having a built in killswitch to exist in anyway, even the most dogshit GaaS game probably has someone playing it right now that genuinely loves it and that lad should be allowed to play it from today to when he's 85
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>>713649141
SO LONG JUDAS
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while its fine for you to see consumer protections as something irrelevant to you, the thor guy did behave in somewhat poor manner

>making huge amount of assumptions that then mislead his audience and poison the discussion for the duration of the campaign
>incredible hostility to communication attempts and refusal to dialogue

So usually that'd go in the internet drama/thats why people watch his content category but since it managed to impact the project via shutting down external support its a bummer.
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>>713649331
How is that a shame? Do people here actually like that retard?
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>>713649331
>narcissist sides with a narcissist
crazy
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>>713649141
so longa jewdas
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>>713648745
Why wouldn't they? A straight lying retard who also happens to be a child groomer and fur fag already did that.
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>>713649002
You don't want to be able to dab with the contrarianism and present those shitty old games when someone claims that OLD GAMES > NEW GAMES
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>>713649498
what protections?
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>>713649331
Same agency.
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>>713649002
Mostly no but there are a few good ones. What I care about is what it's going to do to new liveservice games going forward. The whole concept might die completely.
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>>713649331
>guy that killed his own mother with his retardation is backing the other retard
im shocked, truly never could've seen this coming
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>>713649141
so long jewdah
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>>713649582
This wouldn't be a problem if companies didn't work to kill community servers.
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GaaS deserves to die alongside with people supporting it.
Keep killing games
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>>713649141
So long gay judas
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>>713648667
Whats his fucking problem?
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>>713649591
you know, being able to play a game that you spent money on
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At the 11th hour, now you start using e-celebs to gain traction on your cause. Could've gotten this done sooner but now you are pushing it to the limit where you still might not make it.
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>>713649331
they are both right
games are not serious things
grow up
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>Stop Killing Games basically means consumer protections by gamers, of gamers, for gamers
>But the gamers are retarded
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>>713648745
They already straight up lie about his character when denouncing his skg videos when all he's doing is being blunt and to the point. He's being very nice about it
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WHAT WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO?
I WAS OUT OF MANA

THAT'S ON YOU BUD
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>>713649704
furfag that molests ferrets
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>>713649331
>>713649419
>>713649527
>>713649539
>>713649605
Did he make a new video? He originally sided with ross.
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>>713649759
I understand why Ross for the longest time didn't engage, he wanted to take the highground route, but this entire situation just showed me that people only pay attention to drama, not principled discussion.
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>>713649710
Who's stopping you?
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>>713648035
I will not support a movement backed by people who want more live service games and multiplayer only games
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>>713649704
He's a furry; so a lot.
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>>713649887
>He originally sided with ross.
wrong
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>>713649965
the legal system and game publishers that exploit it in their favor
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>>713649887
He's talking about it right now on stream
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>>713649141
S O L O N G J U D A S S ! ! ! ! ! !
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>>713649949
it must be a very disappointing lesson for him to learn
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>>713650002
I will however support a movement that a tranny furfag/industry shill is against
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>>713650002
You mean less, since regulating GaaS games will make companies think twice before churning out new live service slop. If you're against GaaS bloat, you will sign the petition.
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>>713649842
>>713649549
I mean like hire someone to say Ross molested them or make some weird outlandish claim that'll spread like wildfire, alot of people online are retarded and take things at face value
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>>713650015
What's done in the dark will be brought to the light, give it time and a bigger autist will eventually piece something together from random clips spread years apart
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>>713648035
Mold man go back to making game dungeon or I will lock you up with pirate fat in a Syberian gulag and throw away the keys
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>>713648035
Do it Ross! The time for being nice has passed. Only the blood of corporate bootlickers will rectify this slight against you!
>>713649141
SO LONG JUDAS
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>>713649141
SO LONG JUDAS
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>>713649616
It probably won't. Maybe a certain subset of life service games, but this probably won't affect f2ps. Gacha games especially are still fucked. If SKG succeeds, the only games that'll be affected are non-f2p games. The games with an up-front cost.
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>>713650145
yeah that would probably work too
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>>713650051
Wait, you think game companies are stopping you playing games?
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kill yourself piratesoftware, nobody cares about your dogshit career and even the blizz slampigs reject your tiny cheese cock
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>>713648035
Why doesn't he just fix his hair and teeth?
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The fence sitter in chief just sat on the fence with it riding firmly up his ass, Asmongold defending Thor while going with the same "I think it's unreasonable that developers and studios should be expected to maintain servers indefinitely".
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>>713650283
yeah, theres games I bought that I cant play anymore
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>>713649704
He's a narcissist and a compulsive liar, never able to admit fault, in the age of internet streaming where everything he says and does is recorded
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>>713650002
But anon, there would be LESS of them since making them means a company is obligated to divert money to keeping them alive forever. Live Service and Multiplayer will suddenly have a millstone around their necks, weighing them down in the eyes of shareholders. When the company is still dealing with the palative care for a game that's six years and and has been unprofitable for five years and eleven months, the shareholders are gonna make damn sure the company doesn't make another one.

Nobody has kids if they know every kid they have is gonna be retarded.
Nobody makes live-service shit if they can't just cut and run when it's not profitable.
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>>713650127
No, they won't. If several major flops in a row isn't enough to dissuade them, being able to force you to buy the same game as "offline mode" or pay a subscription to access it won't do shit.
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>>713649002
I don't care about anything, whatever gives me money gives me money, everything else is shit.
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>>713649141
SO LONG JUDAS
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Thor just made a new post where he basically goes, "Guys, I talked to two Youtubers just now. I am sorry for being rude to Ross, but actually you can't blame me because I'm passionate about the subject. You guys just don't know a lot about game dev and I'm tired of explaining it to people so I get mad. The initiative is bad."
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>asmongold currently talking about it
he is as dumb as piratesoftware lol
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>>713648667
>>713649141
>>713649328
He has the furry phenotype
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>>713650341
>"I think it's unreasonable that developers and studios should be expected to maintain servers indefinitely".
yes right, just thor
ross is wrong and have always been wrong
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>>713650341
Do you have an argument for why he's wrong, bootlicker?
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>told you are buying a service
>expects a product
Honestly idiots deserve to be taken advantage of
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>>713649776
Kek
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>>713650429
>Recognizes he gets mad at Ross and that isn't a good thing
>Doesn't take Ross up on his offer to talk like adults
What a fuckwit.
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>>713650429
What are we at now, octuple down?
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>>713649704
His head is so far up his own ass it literally came back out of his neck again.
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>>713649141
If Ubisoft owns my soul I'd rather die.
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>>713650429
It’s somehow never his fault despite 100% of his expertise is being a QA monkey. Why does blizzard output people like him and kern?
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>>713649861
翧 筌 韫 縏 I worked at winter storm
nepo 駰 晞 baby
沌 庅 韢 撂 Maldavius Figtree
MANA GEM 焷 藖 姤 鯟 鴰 柿 柽 COCKROACH
voice synth 嵌 領 渟 ferretfuck
佗 崅 耸 Animal Well 腿 嶟 谀 述 酡 自 纲
8 years 斎 碖 黴 圢 no game
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>>713650429
>passionate about the subject
passionate about being called out at most the massive faggot
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Out of all games that he chose to use as the symbol of his movement, why did he choose The Crew? That was his first mistake.
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>>713650454
Adum has way more charisma than Jason.
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>>713650550
>Why does blizzard output people like him and kern?
Blizzard was never a good place to work. It paid people in "glamour" and you were basically a retard to go work at Blizz compared to any other company that paid competitive wages. So all the people at Blizzard self-selected as people with no self-respect, ability or were too blinded by names (aka retards)
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>>713650160
Did you just quote the Bible?
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>>713650646
He liked driving around America. That's it. He just thought that was fun and comfy because he's always wanted a pure driving game.
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>>713650509
twice that, those 2 new tweets are fucking long
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>>713650449
He just banned a bunch of people on his stream all because they said Asmongold was wrong about Thor and this is in response to Asmongold saying
>It's important when you have a movement like SKGs to be accurate and present your information truthfully.
He said that in response to defending Piratesoftware and then people posted that he doesn't get it so Asmon banned them.
He's so retarded.
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>>713650646
Because it was french and had a better chance for it to be looked at by the EU.
Besides that, you can choose literally any live service game and it wouldn't make a difference. I'm sure people are smart enough to think "Huh, maybe this kind of thing can be applied to Overwatch (A game people liked and played even if I didn't)"
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>>713650698
on occasion, but I appreciate you capitalizing it
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>>713650646
If the movement reaches a political body he wanted a real modern european example of a classic rugpull shutdown.
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>>713650396
They're not even required to keep the servers up forever, just provide a way for the games to still be playable even after they abandon it. A tool for people to make their own servers, like old CS and Quake would work for the requirements.
Whoever argues that "the servers must stay up forever!" is debating in bad faith automatically for me.
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>>713650405
What? Have you even read the petition? You don't have to buy anything extra. If they choose ti stop support and shut it down they have to give the community the ability to host their own servers. No extra cost
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>>713650646
Ross actually liked driving around in it. He fully admitted that the game was no good, but he just genuinely liked that virtual world that has now been deleted forever.
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>>713650526
Sorry, dying is against Ubisoft corporate policy.
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>>713650294
>he has a literal wife
some people aren't self-conscious about their looks, especially when they have a partner that loves them as they are
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>>713650449
the guy that at best just nods and kills his own mother
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>>713650429
Ferretfucker doesn't understand how to empathize with others at all, nor does he understand the movement in general.
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>>713650429
He's so up his own fucking ass he can't even manipulate people properly. All he had to do is say "okay guys I get it, I fucked up" and he would immediately get some credibility back, but no, this fucking retard can't even realize that.
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>>713650429
Legit narcissist behaviour
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>>713650771
Except we know that's not how it works. The greatest common denominator only cares about two things: how does something affect them personally, and how does that something affect them in the short term. You CANNOT start a movement while believing in people's intelligence. The more people you try to involve in something, the lower the estimated collective IQ.
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>>713650429
He's got Asmongold now in his corner, expect this to get a lot more stupid.
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>>713650294
there's nothing wrong with them
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I will say Ross may not have done well if Pirate took up the offer for a discussion if looking at other interviews are to be believed, but who knows, maybe Ross' autistic innocence and passion may have swayed a few people.
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>game dev is harder when people think it's easy!
faggot can't even make progress on his rpg maker slop
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>>713649761
>/v/
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>>713650723
>>713650806
You can't choose the symbol of your fight based on your personal preferences. You have to choose something that would have the greatest effect on the greatest number of people possible. People are stupid and selfish. You MUST take that into consideration at all times no matter what.
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>>713649002
As crazy as it sounds yes. I wish I could play The Crew 1 again. Crew 1 was a pretty comfy game to mindlessly roam and for some fucking reason Crew 2 removed some aspects of 1 so it's not the same
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>>713650492
the crew (and thousands of other online only games) are not labeled as subscription services when you purchase them
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>>713650429
>I'M THE VICTIM
I'M THE VICTIM
>I'M THE VICTIM
i'm right tho
>I'M THE VICTIM
I'M THE VICTIM
>I'M THE VICTIM
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i just don't fucking get it, just make it so players have the hability to host servers, i understand in a few games like Dark souls, Journey or Ashen that would be hacky and awkward, but it would still work. Although i guess all of these games "reasonably" work without multiplayer.
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>>713649002
>Seriously though, does anyone actually really, genuinely care about the games being killed?
I imagine you don't want a thing you paid for taken away from you
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>Ross failed at everything he tried to do so far
>and he also just lost asmongold support when he tried to harass piratesoftware
BASED
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>>713650429
theres something oddly endearing about someone so far up their own ass their ears are poking the liver, keep going little buddy, im sure octodecupling down will work this time
its like watching a toddler try to lie to their parents this shit is funny
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>>713651030
The stupid people are the ones pushing for this
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>>713651015
Not reading all this bullshit where he still refuses to admit he didn't try at all to understand the situation and instead just tried to Redditlord himself as the smartest person, once again
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Anyone have any theories on why Asmon is so afraid of Thor? Any time any drama gets mentioned him being uncomfortable is very palpable.

Something is going on either Thor has dirt or he's backed by something.
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>Moistcritical, JoshStrife Hayes, Tectone SOmeordiaryJeet in Ross Scott's corner
>Asmongold in PirateSoftwares corner

Oof, this really is turning into a drama slop fest.
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>>713651015
>game dev is hard guys we can't just let you keep your games!
Maybe for this retard who can't even make an RPGmaker undertale clone? We literally have private servers for pretty much every MMO out there already, especially WoW which he used as a retarded example to make a point.
None of this shit is difficult to do.
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>>713651015
The highlighted paragraph doesn’t say what he thinks it does. How is he this fucking dense?
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>>713651202
How long before the inevitable Internet Vs. video?
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>>713650396
They can just release server hosting software software, shut down the official servers, wash their hands off and leave it up to dedicated fan servers.
They'll still continue to chase after the money Fortnite, LoL and Genshin make.
They'll continue to make slop.
Several major projects flopping isn't enough to dissuade AAA companies from making live service slop or multiplayer only garbage, telling them that people love them enough to want these games to keep running forever is NOT going to convince them to stop making this slop, it has the opposite effect.
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>>713650646
>>713650723
>>713650771
>>713650806

more retards spewing bullshit when they don't actually know anything
letting retarded normies on the internet was humanities biggest mistake
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>the guy who doesn't know shit about WoW teams up with the guy who doesn't know shit about WoW
>both claim to be WoW experts
Tag-team of the century!
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>>713651247
>how is he this fucking dense?
it's even longer
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>>713651202
>irrelevant people on ross's side
>the biggest content creator in the world on Thor side
yeah I know who won this
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>>713651180
Blizzard, Jason's (Piratesoftware) father still works at Blizzard and Asmon still has that hero worship of Blizzard in the back of his brain.
He doesn't want to offend Jason because that'll offend the father who works at the company still and Asmon wants to go back to play WoW one day or at least have that avenue open.
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>>713651202
its like the heckin gamergate all over again, but stupider somehow
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>>713651180
He's friends with Pirate and has already gone on record to say he will never criticize his friends and will purposely make bad takes just so his friends look better in comparison.
In otherwords he's a legitimate, unironic, by all definitions of the word, a fucking grifter.
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>>713650774
Based
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That faggot's entire argument falls apart when developers can just let players host their own servers
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>>713651015
>game dev is hard
How long has he been "working" on his game now? 8 years?
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Someone post the exchange between pirate and ross which is basically
>*Autistic wall of text*
>Hey, I think that twitter might not be the best platform for this, here is where you can find my contact details and we can talk elsewhere
>*Autistic wall of text*
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>>713650429
He'll literally talk to anyone but Ross directly unless Ross is at a severe disadvantage through twitter character limits.
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>>713649141
SO LONG JUDAS
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>>713651015
I wonder why when that CEO of a publishing company said game preservation is good to Jasons face he immediately backed down, Hes so passionate, clearly the CEO that funded 40 games just doesn't understand the industry and Jason in all his good grace humored him
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>>713651362
wrong that actually requires devs and companies wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars to give you access to something you should never have access in the first place
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>>713651247
given how much trouble he has with puzzles in games, is he even a midwit?
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>>713651180
I think there is some truth these 2 guys are cut from the same cloth.

If they rub against each other, there is a real chance Thor just voice mogs asmon and then everyone will jump ship.
They are both the autistic white male WOW guys, and both who suck at it
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>>713651294
Critical is way bigger than Assmongler
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>>713650905
>I fucked up
nooooo but that would be admitting he did something wrong and I didn't!
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piRAT doesn't want Ross to succeed because he wants to be able to blanket ban people who type mana gem from his shitty furry game as well as his chat.
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>>713648812
Ross has like, 10 backup souls he exchanged for candy, he's immune to jewish tricks. He would no diff so hard it wouldn't even be funny.
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i am glad to know the guy who draws smut i shot rope to is not retarded
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>>713651398
Here you go.
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>>713651462
No it does not. Thor you are not only a furfag but also a transsexual and I suspect also a closet jew.
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why can't they just debate
holy shit
the amount of gymnastics taken where he will DM anybody except for the guy he is talking to
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>>713649141
SO LONG JUDAS
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>>713651269
Cry about it on your discord server.
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>>713651489
no, he's not he's not even close
you would be right back in 2020 but right now asmon is like 5 times bigger than him
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>>713651531
>scroll through that autism screed
>eyes randomly catch "Stay Frosty" from Pirate
I started shitting my pants from pure cringe and embarrassment.
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>>713651531
this is literally the fucking guy shouting at a happy guy meme holy shit lmfao
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why doesn't ross just focus on his movie and videos instead of this dead end autistic crusade
I bet his autistic wife enables his autistic behavior
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>>713651585
if he had an honest debate he would lose and he knows it
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>>713651585
>debate
That is meaningless. Debates solve nothing. Only violence can produce results.
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>>713651523
Why does this sound like a tangent he would bring up in Freeman's mind or a game about candy?
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>>713648667
Giuda. Traditore.
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>>713651583
server tools that users can just run themselves don't exist
they need to be created and that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars
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>>713651670
>Why does an autist focus on something that is near and dear to his heart?
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>>713651585
Because the faggot can't even explain what this movement is about, neither can the discord shills
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>>713651278
and don't look in the replies tab.
I wish I knew the word for 500tupling down, cause thats where he's at
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>>713651625
Critical has 2 million more Twitch subscribers and 13 million more Youtube subscribers. you're a fucking retard
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>>713651585
Ross was open to it for months and replied to Piratesoftware under his video before but Pirate deleted Ross's comment and banned anyone talking about Ross.
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>>713650804
>You don't have to buy anything extra
X-Dive offline is cited as an example of keeping a game alive. Stop Killing Games doesn't care if the post-mortem causes costs to the customer because it considers selling an offline version of the game to be a perfectly acceptable choice for the publisher.
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>>713651015
He's still quadrupling down.
>it's... it's so hard you guys
IT ACTUALLY ISN'T
if couple nerds could reverse engineer WoW servers then Blizzard could've literally release the tools needed in one day. This faggot either doesn't understand (which shows he doesn't know shit about both gaming and gamedev) or he understands but feigns ignorance for his own gain. Judge for yourself.
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>>713651531
Since when can you write entire fucking articles on Twitter, I thought this shit was capped at like 300 characters
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How exactly does a World of Warcraft player manage to reconcile the fact that somehow MMOs all require central servers that can never be distributed...with the fact that private servers have had legitimate massive impacts on the retail game? Back in 2010 I was able to host my own small WoW server on a shitty laptop. People today are able to host their own Genshin servers on fucking phones.

How is he STILL under the impression this is a single player game issue?
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>>713650396
>obligated to divert money to keeping them alive forever
you fucking retard.
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>>713651180
they're both in night media so its against their interests to oppose each other in any meaningful manner
its the same reason he keeps making videos where he states a boring centrist opinion so that hassan can make seven reaction videos off it
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>>713651531
>27 paragraphs
Ross just wrote 6, how do you say fuck all and still write x4.5 the amount the person you're trying to defame did
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>>713649632
>>guy that killed his own mother with his retardation is backing the other retard
He's killing his father with his retardation right now too.
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>>713651739
>this dude things devs develop their stack on SaaS and not on their own local sandbox (dedicated server) for the version they're currently developing on
I cringe whenever the average retard makes dev adjacent takes.
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>>713651815
>dead subs on youtube
>dead followers on twitch
oh wow that's so relevant...
asmon gets more viewers in a week than moisfag gets in a month
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>>713651739
Why the fuck do you care how much it costs, kike? Are you a developer?
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>>713651856
if you pay like $50 it ups the character limit to about the same as here
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>>713649141
SO LONG JUDAS
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>>713650396
They would not be obligated to run shit, that onus will be on the community, I implore you to actually watch Ross's video
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>>713651861
>he STILL under the impression this is a single player game issue?
hes not, he just refuses to accept hes in the wrong, he'll probably try to sue Ross if this gets any worse for him
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>>713651960
because I live in the real world and considering the absurd costs companies would just stop releasing any form of online game instead of setting themselves up to be sued or bankruptcy

>>713651929
if you think that the companies internal servers can just be shipped to run on consumers computers you're the one that has no idea what he's talking about
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>>713651526
Based DevilHS!
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>>713649002
It does seem a bit strange how online games in particular are practically just designed to be disposable and to theoretically just disappear off the face of the earth at some point. Beyond the fact that these games cost money both to make and usually to play (money which essentially goes poof if the game disappears), a lot of the larger games are relevant to the history of a genre, and sometimes genuinely relevant to broader culture.
Let's say, hypothetically, World of Warcraft were to go offline one day, and no official legal means of keeping it available in some form existed. Theoretically, one of the most influential pieces of digital media ever could just disappear off the face of the earth overnight. I think that's pretty odd.
Devs supporting a game for all eternity isn't very realistic, but i.e. letting people download the server-side software when they don't want to host servers themselves anymore and allowing them to host in some legal capacity seems fairly reasonable.

I don't think it's so much about hoarding every shitty piece of software ever produced and more about just allowing people the opportunity to keep these games alive in some shape or form if they are interested in doing so.
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>>713651957
Charlie's views are still higher though. Oh no no no no no...Asmonsisters....
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>>713651861
the point is to obfuscate the discussion long enough for the timer to run out so that the live service game he's involved in can get off the ground
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>>713652139
>>713652031
Ross you seething troon
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>>713648035
uh, just don't kill me then?
Let us kill games together!
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>>713652152
>companies would just stop releasing any form of online game instead of setting themselves up to be sued or bankruptcy
you're a fucking retard if you don't think that's a good thing
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>multiple big creators came out and shat on pirate
anyone actually defending him on this issue?
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>>713652152
Fuck off, you Malding Fagtree.
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>>713652293
asmonrat
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>>713652293
His friends.
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>>713652152
>companies internal servers
You're so fucking clueless, don't reply to me filth, actually get a job in that field then talk to me.
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Having a problem with ross is wild he's been about the least insane one on the platform
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Figtree kind of has that tranny phenotype going on
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Let's say you're bug fixing your Online-only game. Do you not have a version of the game that runs Offline? You need an Internet connection to test your own fucking game?
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>>713652152
>if you think that the companies internal servers can just be shipped to run on consumers computers
oh no my unix box
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>>713652293
>anyone actually defending him on this issue?
that guy that killed his own mother by lighting her on fire, but only because theyre friends
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>>713652280
>companies would stop making games
>good thing

I wondered why discord were spamming
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I found a few indie devs talking about the situation and how Thor is retarded. Hate how it had to come to drama farming but here we are.
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>>713652365
Ssh no thinking please
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>>713652293
Yes some other retard who works for the same media company he does
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pirate software is literally everything wrong with modern furfags, god he sucks. i know he's reading this shit too since he grifts off /v/ screencaps on his twitter account. in fact when 4chan went down he was desperate and used 8ch screencaps.
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>>713651202
Asmon is on SKG's side, he only defends pirate's character like he always does because he can't internalize burning bridges with people he has good relations with
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>>713652365
Delete this post
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>>713652410
It really is fucking hilarious how it took Ross resorting to starting drama in order to get his movement really going. Especially since it fucking worked too.
What a sad state of affairs we're in
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>>713651781
The movement is about
>Label correctly your game
and
>don't destroy the game when you don't sell it anymore
What part of that you cannot understand? If you've watched Ross's video on it and you still don't get it, you are legit retarded or a blatant corpo whore.
Tell us wich is it I guess?
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>>713651269
Well, anon, where are they wrong?
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>>713652332
He's insane but the harmless type, the one to ramble about tangents and thinking about the implications of certain things, like playing a game about bald people and thinking to himself if he was balding what type of hairstyle he would have
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>>713652387
>companies would stop making games
You said online games. Please don't move the goalposts tranny
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Europeans don't care about rights, anyway.
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>>713651269
sure you fucking normalfag, kill yourself now
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>>713652332
dont worry they'll dox him or something before ever admitting they're retarded, worst case situation is Ross shooting Jason after he pulls a botched B&E
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>>713649002
I want to play forza horizon 4.
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>>713652293
AsmonJew did, mostly because he didn't really pay attention to Charlie's video and was more focused on his own chat so he didn't hear what was being said half the time. Or he kept pausing the video every 30 seconds to inject his own irrelevant 'take' and in doing so he forgot what was being said in the video.
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Eceleb thread are against the rules.
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>>713652465
Was there ever anything good about furfags? You should all be murdered. Thor is the best example.
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>>713651685
He brought that up in his "Go to Hell" Game Dungeon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbaeTAf9jsY
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>>713652152
>if you think that the companies internal servers can just be shipped to run on consumers computers
Holy fuck you're retarded, like genuinely bordering on vegetable. Empty your drool bucket and never post again you usless tard.
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>>713652606
shut your whore mouth and let me see the shitflinging you worthless nigger
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can somebody explain to me why it'd be difficult and be super unfair to game devs to let gamers have an offline version of their online only games once they sunset them when shit like private wow servers already exist and have been existing perfectly fine for a while now
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it's funny to me euros care more about this dumb proposal than the ongoing muslim invasion
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>>713652501
>Yes but why companies should be obligated to keep their servers up forever?
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>>713652621
one or two of them have made a goodish song
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>>713652365
i'm trying to think of a game that has no LAN / test / tournament version...but none come to mind.

Also I'm pretty sure that dumb fucker cited League of Legends as an example of a game where this wouldn't work, ignoring that tournaments are LAN and that private servers of League have existed for a while.
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>>713652559
with forza horizon 4 it's a slightly different issue.
that game went down cause of an expired license, they would have had to patch out all the cars connected with that license.
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>>713652606
Yeah but leftoids are obsessed with ecelebs
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>>713652621
no, and i say this as someone who jerks off to furry porn a lot
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>>713652668
caring about the mudslime invasion is illegal
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>"NOO THIS WILL KILL LIVE SERVICE GAMES!!!"
whats the problem with that?
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>>713651531
kek
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>>713652653
because allowing consumers to continue to use old product when the developer wants to move onto new product even if its at minimal or no cost to the developer means that the consumer isn't forced to be on the payment treadmill for new product
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>>713651531
Even his writing style is smug.
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>>713648035
Ross pulling a Luigi would be so fucking based if he wouldn't be sent to prison. Issue is who's the one person that is ruining games single handedly and by killing them would send a message
>captcha: Dj2drm
You can't make this shit up.
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>>713651462
>hundreds of thousands of dollars
>to give you access to something you should never have access in the first place
oh my sides
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>>713652708
I liked some live-service games.
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>>713652732
>people are FORCED to buy shitty games!
I can't tell if you're dishonest or you have so little self control that you actually believe this
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>>713652708
Discord shills hate gaming, it's why they're pushing this
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>>713652668
The Brits aren't in the EU though.
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>>713652695
The MOBA argument also really falls flat when you consider both DOTA: All Stars (Which is nothing but private servers since it was a custom game for Warcraft III) and DOTA 2 (Which has self hosted servers for custom games, dedicated servers for private games and LAN capabilities).
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>>713652780
Thor
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>>713649141
So long Judas
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>>713652832
stop molesting ferrets figgy
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>>713648035
But Ross I can't die until I watch THE MOVIE
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>>713652583
>Or he kept pausing the video every 30 seconds to inject his own irrelevant 'take'
That shit was frustrating because he literally paused the video just to make THE SAME MISCONCEPTION THAT PIRATE DID, only to end up talking over Ross debunking it
and then he banned chatters for calling him out for being a fucking retard. I wouldn't doubt he doubled down on defending Thor because he didn't like his chat getting upset with him. Can't make this shit up.
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It's time like these that really make you appreciate how fucking scary things can be easily co-opted and changed by bad actors to turn what's essentially, consumer advocacy into a retarded clownshow.
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>>713652152
>if you think that the companies internal servers can just be shipped to run on consumers computers you're the one that has no idea what he's talking about
What do you think those "internal servers" are? Super computers or complex environment?
More often than ever they're just terminal/command line application or dockerized images, it's not really that complicated.
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>>713652695
Riot is notorious for shutting down private servers, anon.
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>>713652854
Welcome to /v/, Discord troon/newfag. We've always hated gaming.
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>>713651389
can't even stay consistent
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>>713652905
please explain to me what the fuck that means
maybe i'm too much of a retarded newnigger but to this day i don't understand where THE MOVIE came from
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How does someone get this big of an ego by being a gigantic midwit? I saw a clip of the ferretoid seething like a motherfucker at someone saying "yeah you were QA not a dev", and he was so fucking hurt lmao.
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>>713651462
If you can’t get your hosting tools to that point you’re a fucking shit dev.
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>>713652921
Ross didn't debunk anything though, he's a retard
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>>713652940
reddit has been doing that for the better part of two decades now
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ive watched ross since the machinima days he's such an awesome down to earth person i feel like anyone who dogs on him is an immediate red flag. someone i just don't want to know. i don't think i have a parasocial relationship with the guy or anything i just like his content and think he's an alright guy. seeing that whatshisface guy be so ignorant about every talking point in the skg campaign is just like. shocking. its honestly shocking how fucking deranges, ignorant, stupid some of the worst people with audiences can be. who even fucking watches this guy and why? what value is there in watching someone so insufferable? I don't think i'll ever get it.
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>>713649643
This is the only way we're getting community servers back
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>>713649141
>look up this guy’s dev studio
>his claim to fame is an undertale clone that’s been in early access since 2018
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>>713652885
That would be funny but it wouldn't do anything.
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>>713653006
He's got narcissistic personality disorder. Textbook case.
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>>713652921
I'm sure when he posts the video on his Youtube people in his comments will point it out, Asmon is one of those retards who do zero research but thinks he is an expert of a technical subject.
I don't see any difference between him and Piratesoftware.
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>>713653014
You don't need to debunk stawmen, Mr. I don't use .json hall.
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>>713649141
Who is this and why do I care
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>>713648035
Shills spammed literal pizza to get it kicked off the board because they seethed so much.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/478879249
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>>713650806
>Ross actually liked driving around in it. He fully admitted that the game was no good, but he just genuinely liked that virtual world that has now been deleted forever.
Ok so why should anyone listen to a Chris-Chan level autist lmfao?
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>>713652871
You can also keep playing Vainglory despite the devs already fucking off. I don't know why other MOBA devs can't do it as well.
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anyone got a clip of his non bass boosted voice? I want a chuckle
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Suppose this pases, what’s preventing a company making Live Service Game 1 to sell Live Service Game: The Expansion Pack at full price that is like the new version of the previous game to get around having to support the first game? There’s no law that says than an expansion must keep any content from the previous game and we’ve seen how for example WoW makes changes to old versions of the game
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>>713649002
I dont care about Crew but as the saying goes, first they came for x...
Hell, some people really hated what happened to Concord, but thats an edge case where they actually got their money back from it.
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I still can't get over Thor's initial reaction being
>This is what I think the campaign is about
>Huh it doesn't mention that
>They must be wrong then.
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>>713652827
And where is that game now, anon?
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>>713651585
lol, he knows he can't defend his position since Ross is objectively right in every regard. Slandering, lying and misrepresenting what Ross said is all he can do. He wouldn't stand a chance in a direct, honest confrontation.
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>>713652827
I'll save a 1000 dogshit games if it means saving 1 good one.
besides, even dogshit games have a fanbase that deserve to play it forever
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>>713650810
What does she look like?
>>713650995
Dude has gap teeth and is bald as fuck with long hair, he looks like a molester.
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>>713653195
Gone.
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>>713653006
put it into the context that until a couple years ago when he learned to arbitrarily deepen his voice he was a squeaky little furfag erping on the internet that molests ferrets and its not really that hard to imagine
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>>713653196
this
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>>713652961
that guy who is the "non lawyer" sounds like such a fucking little faggot holy shit
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Reminder, Accursed Farms SHILLS, Jason """"Thor"""" Hall absolutely HAS NO conflict of interest and his take on SKG is ENTIRELY ORGANIC AND LOGICAL, his company having a LIVE SERVICE ONLY ONLY GAME is irrelevant to this discussion. He is HONEST and RELIABLE.
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>Hi, I'm just a normal person. Why should I sign your petition?
>>BECAUSE PIRATE IS AGAINST IT! YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS? HE DISAGREED WITH ROSS! HE'S A NEPOBABY INDUSTRY PLANT THAT IS TRYING TO SABOTAGE A CONTINENT WIDE PETITION BY MAKING A YOUTUBE VIDEO SAYING IT'S A BAD IDEA! ALSO HE'S A TRANNY THAT RAPES ANIMALS! JUST LOOK AT THESE TWITTER SCREENSHOTS!
>Uhhh... good luck with that... I have to go to work now.
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>>713653048
It's not even a parasocial thing. SKG was just a really solid campaign, explained what it is, what it intends to do and how it wll go about it. It doesn't get any more cut and dry than that and yet the whole thing has been hijacked by a narcissistic mongoloid that can't admit he's wrong.
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>>713649141
LISTEN ROSS TO THE WARNING I GIVE
PLEASE REMEMBER THAT I WANT US TO LIVE
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>>713649141
SO LONG JUDAS
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>>713653258
They named a champ after him.



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