Seems the vtubers are up in arms
what things have been happening?
>>713816089No shit's gay.
>>713816089This is a porn game?
>>713816089LMAO they will pretend to be mad or interested in anything. their entire "career" relies on drama to stand out from the masses.
>>713816089Just wait until they find out about Idolm@ster
>>713816089What's problematic? They having sex behind their viewer instead of being pure?
>I can't believe you're doing this considering what's been happening in the world recently. Haven't you seen the news?
>enshitAlso what does she mean by things that have been happening? Did some en whore fuck their manager? Classic.
I remember when the needy streamer game came out EVERYONE from the smallest 2view to the largest corpo was streaming that game. you got a lot of interesting reactions and I think learned a lot about people from how they handled various momentsthis is just a porn game with a vtuber theme it can't be nearly as interesting by comparison even if they *could* stream it
>>713816690Oh they'll stream it Get banned and cry
>>713816587Hvaing sex with their managers is seen as a sin
>>713816564this, japs love gakuen idolmaster
>>713816520Lmaooo
>>713816587every vtuber is being rammed by chad cocks and if their audience knew they wouldn't watch them. the manager thing is irrelevant.
>>713817146Gay?
>>713816089what are the things that have been happening?
>>713817385Vtubers having sex with managers
>>713817385Standard artificial drama. Every now and then it comes out that a Vtuber is fucking someone, manger, mod, Clive the butcher it doesn't matter. they will then release a statement about how X was abusive and that they have cut ties in an effort not to haemorrhage paying simps.
>>713816089Do straight men have no personality beyond their sexuality?
>>713817671>>713817692but what specific instances?the only vtuber I listen to is kirsche so I'm out of the loop
>>713816089>vtubers are up in armsNot the vtubers that matter
>>713817767Kirsche.
>uhh you can't make a game about this industry thing happening in real life because that would be damaging to the industrylmao
>>713817767behold random bullshit. https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1k9j0bg/eli5_who_is_sinder_and_what_did_she_do_wrong/
literally who
>>713817824Mid sized ones are
>>713818072This one https://x.com/synicalbeanical
>>713817742Hahah no
>>713816564Get out of my head, anon.
>>713818559N-no
>>713816089>I'm fine with all the horrible disgusting degenerate shit like necrophilia, and tentacle rape, even encourage it, but the violation of proper corporate workplace conduct is where I draw the line.
>>713817671>Vtubers having sex with managersWhat a lucky manager of a bitch
>>713818592This person is only considering how this game redpilling her simps will hurt her income.
>>713818592Proper?
sounds like projection
>>713816089is the game good though?
>>713818734Some really are
>>713816089>professional vmommyincels and simps enable her to do it
>>713816089Will I play the vtuber sim? No. Do I give a shit about what anyone says on Twitter? No. Is OP a faggot? Yes.
Wait a second...this is marketing isn't it?
>>713816089Huh, theres like 12, 60 of these every year if you count the jank flash type games.Why now?Not to mention the power dynamic is nothing new, theres a billion idol producer fucking games that go full on NTR, but this is relatively vanilla in comparison so, just some weird spergout?
>>713816301Nothing, as always
>>713818923dude its pre-rendered sex scenes with a stalling calendar manager mechanic to make sure you cant refund it within 2 hours. what do you think?
>>713816089VTubers are faker than pro wrestlers.This troon pretending to be their retarded anime avatars for this is just drama fishing.
>>713819028What nooo
>>713819194Troon?
>>713816089so this goes too far, but NejicomiSimulator TMA02 - My Own Dedicated Weak Pussy Cow Vtuber's Confinement and Training! Choke-Clamping Deep-Digging RIP to her Life Masochistic-Orgasm!- (cheeky big boob faphole understood her position) is fine
>>713818281i dont care
>>713816089Who do these Westshit Tubas think they're kidding? Vtubing is built on parasociality
>>713816089I'm pretty darn sure there are a couple games about that except for regular idols. Hell. im@s porn scene is literally Producer (read: you) having sex with the idols.Why is THIS so poor in taste? What makes it different over the Plethora of deviant hentai games. For fuck sake, Night Shift Nurses got a fucking steam release (censored to hell and back, sure, but managed to release), why is this apparently vanilla esque game such a big deal.These people make no fucking sense.
>>713819337Not even that, needy girl nets you a bad ending for doing such thing, she becomes a cock addicted slut.Guess what kind of route people always do first?
>>713819461Lmao
>>713819479Cause vtubers will play it ig
>>713819461This, no one would give a flying fuck about any of them if they knew they were with someone. That's how all this idol stuff works, they sell a fantasy and take advantage of losers lonely and desperate enough to be parasocial with them.
>>713816089>nooooo don't expose us like this
>watch random vtuber videos>they all pretend to be gay and want to ''marry'' each otherAre all vtubers this boring or is it an EN thing? and they all play the same games too. Minecraft.
>>713820105All.
>>713820105Really
>>713817671How does one become a Vtuber manager specifically. Asking for a friend.
>>713816089how is it in poor taste when vtubers fucking their """managers"""" who are actually their irl boyfriends is a constant source of drama
>>713817742Personality? That kinda shit gets you in trouble, cut it out.
>>713816089>Vtubers>ENThat's like taking porn stories seriously.
>>713820105women doing dumb gay shit for attention?well I never
>>713817385>Quite a few Vtubers spend time harping on about managers, when the word itself literally means boyfriend.That's all really. It's the perfect reminder that despite most of them roleplaying as single, they're quite often cucking the audience something fierce. It's a wild industry.
>Voice actors are up in arms>Vtubers are up in amrs>look inside>all Western/US garbageAnd why should people even care this whole nontroversy?
>>713820105It's actually a JP thing and copied by the weebs that use the JP format. Real EN vtubers don't create characters, they use avatars and don't bother for a second to pretend they aren't a real person like any other streamer. It causes this massive disconnect where westerners pretend they know how vtubing works because they have access to a motion rigged model, and they then criticize the professionals that work with an actual brand in the entertainment industry.
>>713820381Never
>>713820685>acting like westerners arent 90% of the market
>>713820956>professional retarded women
>>713820470Aren't most married anyways
>>713820289Lmao
>>713816089vtubers are human trash that farm parasocial lonely men for their money. its no different than prosties or hostess women in japan.
>>713820105Its an jp idol thing.It just works.
>>713821919Well except there's no sex
>>713816089Think she's trying to tell us something.Like she fucked her manager.
>>713822417Eh
>>713821919TRVTH NVKE
>>713816089I don't get it. Are people really deluded enough to believe Vtubers don't fuck their managers and who knows what else?How is a game in bad taste if it's a self evident truth
>>713822270Bump
>>713823846Because idol culture
Why is the most horrid and evil thing for vtuber fans a grown adult engaging in a relationship and/or sex with another grown adult? Those are things normal people do.
>>713816301A vtuber had sex with a male recently
>>713816564wait till they find out about literal actual idols
>>713825275>recentlyShould we tell xer
>>713823846Femoids, like jews, don't like the truth
>>713825204Idol culture
>>713816089Is the game fun at least?
>>713825714Yeah actually it is
>>713816089Is this thread going to end up in a parrot video?Put me in your video with some big titted vtuber, you Colombian schizo.
>>713822417She cheated on her husband with her manager*
>>713816089It's always the super lewd vtubers with ahegao models that hate shit like this lmao, they do have skeletons in their closets
>>713816089hits a bit too close to home for vtuber whores huh?the best part is the retard simps continue to act oblivious about it
>>713816089any NTR?
>>713826682Send it to em
>>713826878Who is the audience for this? Who the fuck wants to follow a vtuber for husband blogs? These bitches are retarded
>>713817945Her problem wasn't fucking her manager, it was the two of them backstabbing their friends. I'm not sure what that has to do with this game. The whole scenario is far from the worst setup to a porn game. Fucking your boss/workers isn't far away from fucking the pizza guy or pool guy as far as porn setups go.
>>713816089>Men:/>Men but they pretend to be anime girls:O
>>713825323Show business is dirty business after all.
>>713827217any more fantasies you want to share?
>>713826878Sounds like her manager found out what makes her happy for a coup
>>713816089Why are they like this?
>>713816089Just watch porn
>>713827217Huh
>>713825204If you're selling yourself as an ideal for lonely men you don't get to be normal because they sure the fuck aren't.
>>713827205>so farThey need to know when they can be the next one
>>713817742do women have personality beyond wanting to be raped
>>713827205ehhhh might as well come out and say it instead of pretending for 2 years to be some 17 virgin teenager just to be doxxed and get your career nuked.
>>713820105I've seen that countless of times before. I hate it. I don't feel as if I can properly express why in full detail, but I just know I hate it and why inside of me.It's just very obnoxious, clearly fake and just drummed up for attention and on top of that is just hyper overused at this point. I also don't actually like streamers sexualizing themselves since that's basically the lowest you can get and are basically just admitting you have no other talent or way of getting people interested in you than to act like a whore online. It's disgusting.
>>713825323why do people pretend like hollywood doesn't exist? that shit happens everywhere so I'm always confused as for why people act so surprised
>>713827943i mean, seriously. they just seem to really love those.
>>713816089Waiting for the Kson DLC
>>713828024lol
>>713827823This. If you're open with it and straightforward, your parasocial fans can either adjust to it early on and treat it like a general fun fact without the illusion, or you can hide it and several years down the line wind up obliterating your entire career, all connections you've made, all contacts you've allocated, and all business deals you've cut all at once.
>>713816089I only watch Phase, and not often. I bet they'll play this.
What compels grown ass adults to watch this shit?
>>713827823I see your point but I guess I just don't see the entertainment factor in fake anime bitch blogging about her IRL husband. Who is the audience?
>>713827854Not their fault that some dudes are pathetic, subhuman losers who should be killed. They wouldn't do that shit if it didn't work. If we just executed all the wasteful failed men who don't contribute to humanity in any way and would be better off in Hell, women wouldn't be able to do things like sexualize themselves for money while not having to work a real job.
>>713828024Wut
>>713827943Well, she's wrong about the Holocaust, but she does this intentionally.
>>713816089idk who this is but they 100% would be fine with an incest game about fucking your mom and sister
>>713827943Does this fatso even know her own fanbase?
>>713818734Why? Because he did it with a 3DPD who happens to be an e-whore?
>>713826878>>713827205Ok, now I know.This is genuinely and unironically for cucks.Theres a few vtubers that lean into that shit as their RP shtick but I guess shes going for the metalevel.
>>713828251> If we just executed all the wasteful failed men who don't contribute to humanity in any way and would be better off in Hell,But then there would be no 4chan.
>>713828272She interacts with all manners of black people in Discord DMs and publicly on Twitter that either watch her, or in some cases, don't even know who she is, but she randomly tries to butt herself in to make herself known to the black man cause she has some kind of fetish for them and wants to eventually have mixed race children.
>>713816089it's fucking showbiz, everyone gets molested
>>713827643Everybody WANTS kids. It's a biological imperative. You convince yourself you can't, or develop a mental illness that makes you think they aren't worth your time. I mean that from an evolutionary perspective; choosing for your bloodline to die out is illness. Men can do it more easily as they can create babies for a much longer period. Women are usually convinced to think this way, then 50/50 regret it.
>>713828250Why would you follow anyone's blog if you didn't want to know about what's going on with them
>>713825204VTubing, with its idol-adjacent roots, generally plays on the notion of you enjoying a character for the sake of that character. While most ENs are awful at being the character they portray, and most tend to struggle with adjusting to feedback and backlash based on those character attributes(though a few do manage to grow over time and become better as they go on), the notion that your VTuber character that you've grown to enjoy and devote yourself as a fan to is also fucking some IRL dude can taint the image of that character. If it was just a general anime character that had a husband, it's an anime husband. Sending a $50 dono to your oshi is effectively spending $50 on condoms, lubricant, and wine so they can fuck some chad while you are alone the second stream ends. More people need to get used to the idea that their Oshi, no matter how virginal or autistic they present themselves, is a real woman behind the monitor, and real women can, and do, have sex. It's extremely easy, it feels good, and having a fanbase of potentially tens to hundreds of thousands all around the world, personal friends and friends of friends in the sphere, and just in general interacting with men in their personal lives means there's going to be someone going for it, and it's probably never going to be (you).
>>713816089But retarded whore... no one gives a fuck if you are offendedYou ARE a retarded whore, after all
>>713828639Harsh
>>713828627I'm going to be real I don't watch VTubers because I can't stand women if I don't have a chance to have sex with them.
>>713816089I don't know what's worse, normalfags or ironic weebs.
um actually, i self insert as the guy that's fucking my oshi irl!!!
>>713828749Completely fair, and you shouldn't feel compelled to interact with things if you don't enjoy them or won't enjoy them.
>>713828421That's good. 99% of the "people" here would be better off in Hell as-well. I mean we know for sure they'll be going.
>>713825275no...
>>713816089I want to make a (male) vtuber persona whose core gimmick is that he's totally fucking all of these chicks after they graduate. How badly do you think the audience will seethe?
>>713820105You expected women to be entertaining? That's on you at that point.The only one I like is the machine.
>>713828739Not wrong tho
>>713816089>hehe i'm such a horny slut lol, porn sex cum lmao, call me mommy chat, you love calling me mommy don't you?>umm... is this a game about dating? uhh yikes?? this is kinda problematic...
>>713827245This meme gets beaten around a lot, but has there ever been any notable cases of this? We've had several dozen to maybe at least 100 doxxings and every single time (other than trannies, who openly admit to being such because it builds their community) it's been proven they are slotted where they should be gender-wise. The only thing I've noted is that some of them are ugly or older irl than they present as, but that's still really a nonissue when talking about 2D anime women.
>haha i gave up a whole life of stable, honest work and education just so i can act like a retarded whore online for people to jerk off to, obsess over me, stalk me and even dox me for years to come just cause it was easier and more rewarding for me in the easy run, haha>what? no, of course i won't find a man within this field of work i do that i would actually be attracted to or respect since everyone here is pretty pathetic and desperate, haha. >i will just be single in my 30s and continue to be so until my eggs run dry and then i begin to regret not marrying and having a family.>or alternatively, i find myself some desperate guy to knock me up like one time and secure myself some comfy life after all the "fun" i had being a stupid whore online
For me, it's Fujisaki YUArip
>>713817742i've seen multiple female vtubers whose personalities are just "ï'm horny lol"
>>713828893None since we know you ain't fucking anyone.
>>713828893Not only are there already numerous male VTubers who have tried to pull this off (and it didn't go anywhere because nobody believes it), but the few active ones that try to play the Walking Orgy angle tend to just be labeled as a sex pest and wind up ignored. It's not like you get this huge angry blowup, you just get called an attention whore and get blocked.
>>713827943Doesn't Kirsche talk about literally being a slut tho?
>>713817742I do, but it's not pertinent to the discussion now is it?
>>713829114>>haha i gave up a whole life of stable, honest work and education just so i can act like a retarded whore online for people to jerk off to, obsess over me, stalk me and even dox me for years to come just cause it was easier and more rewarding for me in the easy run, hahaMan does that sound like the dream. I'll look into how to be a VTuber now.
>>713829630just troon out, or go pretend to be a gay femboy.
>>713816089Oh no, Synicalbeanical hates a game, whatsoever will we do now?
>>713829731I'm not a tranny or a femboy(deep voice, I'm a big dude), but I can definitely figure something else out.
>>713829114>you GOTTA become a nameless, faceless cog in the system that hates you run by people who hate you>it's the only path to happiness
>>713816089I don't know this person at all but judging by how flustered they got by the mere idea of having sex with a manager I know 100% they are constantly fantasising about being raped by every man in their lives
>>713829114They are probably lying honestly. Though it is possible. Women ALWAYS take the easy way. VTubing is like Onlyfans, but you retain more dignity.So... I guess I have some respect for them. But nonetheless.
>>713829570>Doesn't Kirsche talk about literally being a slut tho?Yes. She openly just talked about how she had like 8 orgasms in a row having sex with one of her EX-Boyfriends and said how we you have sex, you should have something like a big towel for the woman to sit over instead of just the plain bed because when she starts to leak 'girlcum' and squirt, it would only soak up the towel then instead of the entire bed. She's a nasty, trash whore and I genuinely do not understand how people are willing to listen to and clamor for her.https://files.catbox.moe/u94foi.mp4
>>713829846Nobody said that.Happiness doesn't exist unless you're rich.
>>713829114sitting at home making 15k a month > """real""" work
>>713830038Oof. Nasty.
>>713830053>Happiness doesn't exist unless you're rich.I'm not that rich and I'm happy
>>713816386Yes
>>713820105>he watched a woman, a troon, or a fag with a voice modulator and expected to have fun
>>713829114I don't know all of these names but: >RiePlays Project Moon games, eats snacks, sings, and is silly already on a corporate salary and has a whole slew of models. >LumiPlays strategy games, acts socially and literally retarded, routinely gets to play with her goofy peers, has effectively zero drama, corporate salary and multiple models>MidasMakes VTuber models and tutorials, acts like the schizo she is, and has a pretty consistent swell of followers>ShxtouFujoshi money sink, literally perceived routinely as /the/ hot guy vtuber, has numbers that regularly crack top 5 of all VTubers, surrounded by the hottest women in VTubing and regularly gets passed aroundI'm certain the rest of them are similarly in far, FAR happier situations than they would be having become scientists or shabbos goy for some other industry.
>>713830084i'm sure all that time you wasted being a retard online and the money you hopefully pilled up and didn't just waste like the retard you pretend to be would somehow come in handy later on in life when you're alone with no one to love and no children to care for and with no one to care for your and look after one another. i am sure the money will absolutely do you wonders at that point, yes. just keep focusing on those and your own enjoyment and lose sight of everything else.
this manufactured don't think about fucking me too much uwu controversy is the only way ANY vtuber stays relevant and you retarded faggots fall for it every time
>>713830307>massive run on sentence of copenot reading anything a wagie types
>>713830258my man, the fact that you know all these nobodies is worrysome
>>713830351>don't think about fucking me too much uwuWhat are you even talking about
>>713830351No you fag
>>713830258"happy situations" short term. they're not achieving anything long term.
>>713830258In the moment, sure. It MIGHT hit like a ton of bricks that you did nothing worthwhile as it comes closer to death.I'm not saying it will, I have no idea, but I know this happens to people. Mostly men, to be fair.
>>713830384>not readingilliterate, worthless retard.
>>713829114>my mother is a millionaire ex fed in russia>my dad was in organizes crime >I was raised to go into politicsX - doubt.
>>713830463Long term they're probably going to retire without stress-related injuries, surrounded by friends, making merch sales for their whole careers, and routinely being sponsored to do all of this dumb shit. They're going to do just fine. >>713830528>worthwhileYou're on /v/ trying to convince non-VTubers that the VTubers you don't watch or know anything about aren't making millionaires of themselves. I can't think of anything less worthwhile to do with your spare time than this.
>>713818734The whole point of vtubing is letting ugly girls stream covering their hudeous visage with a cute 2d avatar, this is the case with indies and small corpos at the very least. Good looking girls become regular fleshtreamers.
>Shondo fucked her discord modLol, imagine being a simp and seeing this.
>>713830629Never said I was free of it?Don't know why you're getting angry about this, or taking it personally?It's a conversation, relax. One's life is their own, I'm just pointing out that deathbed regret is a very common scenario.
>>713829114>>713830557>see guys?? see!!>the joke is that... I AM LYING>HAHHAHAHAH!!>isn't that funny??>i am lying on purpose about what i used to do IRL>LOOOOL!!!>isn't that so funny?? that i purposefully lie and blow it out of proportions the thing i used to do IRL before streaming??>HAHAHHAHAHA!! >please laugh...Women aren't funny.
>>713830557A million roubles is about 15 USD so that part is believable
>one year ago I couldn't name a single vtuber>Youtube recommends me a Neuro-sama clip>fast forward and now I instantly knew what the OP pic is referring toWhat the fuck has happened to me?
>>713829023Came here to post this thanks anon
>>713830717>Good looking girls become regular fleshtreamers.Not always. It does benefit to be part of the sphere AND be attractive IRL, but maintain the model.
>>713830761neither are shartyniggers tho
>>713830824You know them? How?
>>713830717This is mostly true, but it's also possible that they just lack confidence. Some Vtubers have done face reveals, and they can be regarded as cute.Never "hot" though. That's true. Generally though, yes. If they were attractive they'd just facecam and make more.
>>713830756I can't imagine where you thought I put a single scrap of emotion into the post, but you do you buddy.
>>713816301
Nah, I'll stick with the superior vtuber dating sim.
>>713830737>shondothat worthless BPD cunt is fucked in the head. she led her mom to kill herself once she couldn't bear with the fact anymore that her daughter's entire "job" was to pretend to be a virtual toddle on camera, making all manners of sex jokes and sexual innuendos for pedophiles to jerk off to and further just creating pedo-baiting content for money. i genuinely do not understand how she is that liked within that whole specific right wing 'antiwoke' sphere, but they also like pippa so i guess there's that. no standards as long as they're somehow passable enough in certain ways and they can be 'forgiven' by just claiming all they do is "jokes".
>>713828626You're misunderstanding. They want to know what's going on with a person that's not like that.
>>713831031KFPkeks...
>>713828893Bold of you to assume you would get more like 2 views.
>>713831049>here's your cute and funny wholesome chubba brohttps://files.catbox.moe/m48pkb.mp4
>>713831049Her mom an hero'd? I thought she appeared on stream before?
>>713831306>what being a bong does to a mf
>>713828534Nobody wants kids. They merely get stuck wtth them and develop Stockholm syndrome after realizing they can't escape their situation. All this shit about biological imperative is copium on par with people enjoying work.
>>713831306kek
>>713816301I'm gonna let you in on a not-so-secret: A vast majority of female indie vtubers who talk about their "managers" are really talking about their boyfriends/husbands. A vast majority, indie or not, are getting fucked hard on the regular. The only reason almost everyone pretends to be some clueless virgin is because it brings in the big bucks from pathetic, lonely fucks who think that the girls actually give a shit about them and not their money. These are the same pathetic losers who drop hundreds/thousands on strippers because they think the nice act is genuine when in reality they're trained to act more affectionate and intimate toward people who shell out the cash.
>>713831372Yeah, her mother killed herself like 2 months ago after being in British Psych Care for a while, cause she attempted suicide once that month, then after like the a week, the retards were like "Nah, she'll be fine, we'll just leave her her out. No meds or anything." Within a few days after being let out, she attempted to kill herself once more and this time succeeded.
>>713831306women really do play life on easy mode.
>>713831306to be fair supporting your family becomes easier when there's no family left
>>713831646What the fuck?Is she still streaming? I've only caught clips of her and I know she has mentioned her sister hates her... guess the house was pretty fucked.
people will never understand that fantasy isnt reality.And those who cannot and will not make this distinction need to be shot.
>>713831306>this bitch is able to survive on this type of shit alone, likely making more than even someone with and engineering degree or whatever else the fuck might actually be "in demand" right now.Why the fuck did men allowed this to happen?Why are we enabling this absolute worthless degeneracy?