If you didn’t gatekeep or attempt to gatekeep the fandoms, games and genres you love then you have zero right to complain about the current state of gaming now.
gatekeeping doesn't work
>I am silly!! comiccoolbtw you do not understand the concept of 'gatekeeping' if you think any action you take can prevent a company from selling products to people you do not like. like, you have no ownership or control over any aspect of that pipeline... you cannot gatekeep that...
I AM SILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>715866669>>715866850whoops forgot to mention i'm trans btw
I AM TRANSGENDER!!!!!!!
I agree but one person telling faggots and redditors to fuck off is still one person, especially in the face of corporations homogenizing everything anyways.
Gatekeeping is just saying "I am so unapologetically narcissistic that I genuinely believe that I and I alone should be allowed to decide who is permitted to enjoy my hobbies."
>>715866659It does if you gatekeep the devs specifically
>>715866556Look at 4chan today, where is the gatekeeping?Modern /v/, /a/ and other boards are like 75% latinos who live in the usa (active hours prove this). Not even 4chan, the sekrit club, was gatekept, why do you expect games to be gamekept?
>>715866556If you didn't gatekee-BUUULAAAAAHHHHBLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH*this is throwing up noise*BLAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGH UGH BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHHGGHG
>>715866659Worked for years on 4chan boards that tried it.
>>715866934Anons used to gatekeep. Then the staff got infiltrated by people who hated that. Then anons got tired and left or assimilated with the mobile posters and brownoids. Then the shitposters made bots, covid happened, the hack happened which exposed the sites worst posters etc.
>>715866556
I hope Blue Archive remains gatekept. Seems they were succcesful somewhat.
>>715867256They gatekeep themselves from profit KEKEKEK
>>715866915true, I do think that; and I'm right.
>>715866556>attempt to gatekeep>faggots cries to the payment processors to shutdown your funThat's why piracy wins.
>>715867380I'm going to let you in on a little secret: you are nowhere near as important as you think you are. In a hundred years, you'll be dead, and in a thousand years, you'll be forgotten. What have you done that is worth remembering?
>>715866915>there are no selfish people who just like to destroy things because others enjoy themOh my sweet summer child
>>715866934>75% LatinoSeems low desu senpai
>>715867617Honestly you write like a classic narcissist. Maybe just esl I dunno, not a diagnosis>t mental health professional
>>715866659It actually does though.
>>715866669>>715866850>>715866889qrd?
The problem with gatekeeping is that developers are overwhelmingly hostile to the idea. Developers who "gatekeep" are really just tossing people as a shield against criticism, not protecting their games. Developers who allow gatekeeping are intentionally limiting their ability to sell a game, and developers fucking hate that. It is always, 100% up to the community to gatekeep. The problem is, the part of a community that wants to gatekeep is often at odds with the part of the community that is actually qualified to gatekeep. Have you ever played a PvE game and soloed an asinine amount of the content while your team was struggling to stay alive in the corner, and then one of them declares that he's carrying you? What about the people here who have extensive, encyclopedic knowledge about a specific game who have to deal with people who skimmed a 2 minute youtube video and came to tell you that you're wrong about everything? If you're the first person in those scenarios, you're the kind of person who should be allowed to gatekeep. But the people who are going to do it are the latter. The people who fucking suck but desperately want to be the equivilent of a janny for a video game community for nothing more than lack of self-importance.Gatekeeping is challenging because the wrong people are doing it. There are few success stories because you wouldn't have heard of most of them. It works but it's not a high profile victory when it does. The ultimate goal is to turn away the bad eggs more rapidly than a developer can attract them but some developers are so insistent that they turn attracting shit to themselves into a personal hobby. All of your efforts can be wasted if a vtuber randomly streams the game.
>>715867859lmao no it does notGatekeeping can only even exist if the creators (or IP holders in general) of the product actively want to gatekeep and go out of their way to do so with content of the product. If the creators do not actively gapekeep themselves there is nothing the community can do to prevent them from expanding to new demographics. Never was, never will be. The moment the creators start expanding the appeal, it is over forever and can never be undone except by creators dropping the ball so bad that the mainstream product bombs.
when did gatekeeping become a bad thing?
>>715868086Investors and shareholders wanting the line to go up infinitely.
>>715866556Get over yourself you joyless faggot
>>715866659It does. I got gatekept from Linux when I tried to switch from W7 to Linux Mint.I was kinda frustrated and angry at first, but remembered how important gatekeeping is so I decided to be rational and not complain aboutbit, instead admitting that many Linux stuff just isn't for me. I really despise ehat W11 is(had to troubleshoot and delete programs from my mom's laptop fucking hell it's horrid) but I'm gonna switch to itvinstead of demand my needs to be catered. People should learn to admit they got filtered and that not everything is for them. And people should more adamantly gatekeep their hobbies and groups.Tho I know saying that while being a newfag and posting "tranime" is kind of hypocritical. Should gatekeep myself out of /v/ desu lol
>>715867152>wordswordswordslmao what a retard faggot
>>715868086When fat tumblrinas realized their shaming attempts don't work and started infiltrating traditionally male spaces.
>>715866556You're the one who should of been gatekept. Pathfinder is a classic example, no one even likes 1e or plays it any more and those shitty owlcat threads are up 24/7. The people who make these threads are always the ones who should be gatekept, and likely are being gatekept and not even realizing it.
>>715868086Gatekeeping inherently means less sales, everyone likes money. >>715868116People keep blaming investors and shareholders, but a lot of retarded decisions to sanitize games and chase the golden goose of normalfag favor has come from the creatives themselves. For example, huge number of GAAS bombs were not really corporate mandated, they were spearheaded by the exactly same creatives who used to make high quality single player games just 20 years ago, because they are not any more immune to the allure of happening to make the new Fortnite and making hundreds of millions than the corporate suits are.
>>715868086Since communism is adapted.
>I've turned video games into braindead console slop and ruined them, now I'm going to cry because booth babes and dorito tie ins are dying off
>>715868273The creatives do what they know the suits want; some aspire to be suits, others know if they don't appear eager to make the next Fortnite they will be replaced with a Yesman.
>>715866865Your precious artists is a "covid killed millions" guy.
>>715866659Call them a nigger. works 100% of the time
>>715868674*Why was I banned. Say one mean word get booted*
>>715868165how the fuck were you gatekept from linux? everything you need is available online and there's like 10 billion posts about any problem you could possibly run into
>>715868858I asked help, becuse I couldn't find how to get one game running. Was gatekept pretty hard, later realizing I was supposed to figure it out myself that I had wrong dstro and was supposed to use Arch.It was good strategy to keep out undesired people like me who are too stupid to learn it and not learn the proper group etiquette. I think it's good in the end. I could just google it these days to find easy tutorials rather than learn to RTFM, but I think it's good to learn to gatekeep yourself from groups that don't want you. After all, I'm a "wintard", so it's better my kind of people don't insert themselves in Linux circles. It's the same reason I don't insert myself to any /v/ projects like King/Queen of /v/ or /v/ - The Musical because I have differing political views from /v/ standard. And I'm not biggest fan of AI.I think it's an important ability to learn especially on 4chan to not insert yourself in groups or projects where you don't belong. You don't want tranimepedo 3rd worlders to enter your group, right?
>>715866556Like this anon >>715866659 said gatekeeping doesn't work with digital media because you can't block someone's access to it, unlike for example a physical club. The best way to "gatekeep" is to not talk about your hobby outside of your own circle and carefully select who you let into your circle, but even that only slows the problem down.
>>715866556This is shamelessly plagiarizing that stick figure comic from ages ago.
>>715868273blame goes uphill>investors invest in suits that make the line go up>suits hire devs who are willing to make a product for the largest number of people>the devs hire more devs with similar ideasuntil shareholders change what they want devs won't. we are now seeing products starting to advertise themselves as anti woke, which i am sure the most retarded morons will eat up even tho it will be slop nonetheless.people who kept thinking the issue was some nepobaby femoid in a fake job position to make her daddy happy missed the forest for the tree
>>715869584I recommend >>715868674. It worked on my old guild, and also got rid of old guild members who got triggered too easily by Trump and -ACK postng.
>>715866556>grifter comic artstyle
Even people that say gatekeeping is bad will actually gatekeep.
Games are easily accessible entertainment media, you can't gatekeep that sort of shit in this day and age. If one tried, all that would be done is that said group would start their own community and likely overtake the original group for being more "open" to the masses.
>>715866556Does that include /v/? We tried to keep the gamergate fags out but they kept coming and then they invited the election tourists and /v/ went from being shitty but fun to regular shitty.
>>715869542I think it's an important ability to learn that linux is shit, something you failed right up the bat.
>>7158695424chan is an anime website>realizing I was supposed to figure it out myself that I had wrong dstro and was supposed to use Arch.Arch sounds like a bad idea if you don't want to learn to use the command line. Nowadays on noob distros you can add most games to Steam and they'll just werk.
>>715868197original "meme" had more text
>>715866659/mlp/ is the most oldfag purist board on the site because of GR15
>>715869952>4chan is an anime websiteWas*Times change, and people don't necessarily want to go back. Just see public transit/walking. Yeah we had much more public transit/walking before, but it got replaced by cars. Now like tranime, public transit is considered a leftist woke thing.Cars, like soijaks, trigger "leftoids" so it is good.At least that is how I see it. I'm also not the biggest fan of idpol. Maybe I don't fit in /v/ now that I think about it...Also I rather manually gatekeep myself from Linux. I was called wintroon and saw people spamming wojaks and doing -ACK posting and I doubt I would fit into groups like that. Better for me to stay as a "wintroon" with my ncuck card etc.I'm kinda tired of all the lingo and miss pre-2010s internet. Anyway take care, be careful mod doesn't ban you for tranime posting. I once also said anime website before getting a week long ban.
>>715870408Nope, its an anime website and always will be. You can fuck off if you dont like that.
>>715870619I want 4chan to be anime website, it's just that most oldfags I know said it isn't anymore.
I still have no idea what does "gatekeeping" anime, video games or any other product entail. How the fuck do you stop someone from buying something, playing/watching/reading it and discussing it somewhere online with other people?
>>7158709864chan has, is and always will be an anime websiteI don't give a FUCK what /pol/ tourists want the site to be
>>715869760The only people who hate gatekeeping are the ones the gate was meant to keep out. An eternal truth that will never be disproven.
>>715870408>Anyway take care, be careful mod doesn't ban you for tranime postingGrim...
Back when mods were sometimes not fags.
>>715866659The first step of gatekeeping is to announce that there is gatekeeping taking place. Appeal to fairness and justice that the old guards should be replaced by more modern candidate, and then name yourself as the new gatekeeper.
Does anyone want to sniff my finger
>>715871457I know you rubbed it on your peepee
>>715869542I dunno that I’d call this gatekeeping. It sounds like there was a certain level of bullshit you’re willing to put up with and linux exceeded that.
>>715866556Why do /v/troons jerk off about gatekeeping but cry about Visa gatekeeping tranime?
>>715866556The only people who don't get the appeal of gatekeeping are people who haven't yet experience their hobby being ruined by overexposure to people who don't really care about its core concept.
>>715872183Visa is gatekeeping anime from anime, they don't mind letting troons in.
>>715872317Just replay the old games before all the normalniggers came in
>>715867152>meme full of wordsYou ain't fooling anyone
>>715873120Why are rightcels so proud of being illiterate?
>>715866659it literally does. We'd have way less normies over here if frequent gore and CP posting became the norm again
>/v/:gatekeeping is le heckin le based and le redpilled>also /v/:noooooooooooo you can't le heckin le ban le meeeeeee!!!!!1explain this hypocrisy
>>715873226Brevity is the sovl of wit.
>>715873432What do big chungus, Keanu Reeves, and nobody have to say about it?
>>715866556This is exactly how it all started. Gamers and nerds were just happy to share their hobbies with others and then they decided to call those fandoms and hobbies, platforms and try to take each and every one of them over.
>>715873481>too dumb to read>wit
>>715873481>excerpt taken from Shakespeare where he's making fun of the person saying this talk about media literacy lmao
>>715873715Sounds like cope to me, using more words to express a concept is a sign of low intelligence.
>>715867931Here.
>>715873816He's making fun of him because he is being verbose (leftistmeme) while praising conciseness (funny meme).
>>715873891>wrote a sentence
>>715866556you can't stop people buying games you like
>>715866915>"I am so unapologetically narcissistic that I genuinely believe that I and I alone should be allowed to decide who is permitted to enjoy my hobbies."humans have been doing this for tens of thousands of years, we've evolved to make judgement calls on whether someone should be able to join a group or not.
>>715873676Yeah its fucking sad. Back then it was a matter of just sharing a bit of what you like to social outcasts. But keep in mind plenty of those 'nerds' became leaders who sold out the business and milked it for all its worth. It's just weird how fag culture has an almost 95% rate of them corrupting shit and in it for the money while gaslighting
>>715874064A short sentence.
>>715874113Exactly. Group boundaries are a good thing because you are all on board with the same intent and direction. Imagine letting someone in and they automatically drag everyone down. If they haven't CHOSEN to ADAPT themselves then they don't deserve to be apart of a group.
>>715874256 (me)furthermore if you have a spastic attack after being criticized like an emotional retard that is also grounds to getting kicked out.
>>715874203Nope.
>>715874131This collective shout thing actually has fags and gamers aligning. They see the writing on the wall and I'm sure they remember when Tumblr banned porn. It's wild how the feminist brain works, that everything that you don't enjoy, or can't control, needs to be destroyed and they will do this over and over again until there is nothing left. Meanwhile they are more miserable than ever and so it's like an endless loop of misery and suffering all because these dumb bitches don't have hobbies and want attention, power and easy money.
BonerrrrBonerrrr
>>715866659It works on incels and chuds kek
>>715866556I've been playing video games for 20 years and I have never once cared about a fandom
>>715866659>gatekeeping doesn't work FOR ANYTHING CROSSING SOME ARBITRARY POPULARITY THRESHOLDFTFYMasses don't give a fuck about obscure shit but once the magical threshold of visibility/popularity is crossed there's really nothing to be done by 'old fans'.You might ass well pull out your cock and try stopping an avalanche by pissing in direction it's coming from.Faggots around here are just too retarded to realize that.
>>715873432It's not hypocrisy, just normal stupidity.'Gatekeeping' in your first meme arrow line means 'I (/v/tard) should make the rules and be sole arbiter of what is and isn't allowed. LOLOLOLO LET'S SHOUT NIGGER AT THE TOP OF OUR LUNGS TOGETHER!'/v/tards are just too dumb to realize the others can gatekeep too and ban them them because they are human equivalent of genital warts.
>>715866556>If you didn’t gatekeep or attempt to gatekeep the fandoms, games and genres you lovethen well done, the stuff you enjoy is still alive and getting stuff
>>715875790Silence tranny.
>>715866556This, but unironically
>>715875790You are mtfYou are mtf (saaaaaay WHAT!?)
>>715874331はい。
>>715866659nobody who replied is getting it right, the actual fix is:>gatekeeping isn't possible for fans/consumers/usersgatekeeping is only possible for the people who are actually in control of the castlethe people who just live in the town can throw tomatoes at the people who come in but if the king's guards arrest the throwers then it won't accomplish anythingultimately it's the king and his guards who control the gate, not the townsfolk
>>715871067>I don't give a FUCK what /pol/ tourists want the site to beYou know that this sounds like newtroon speak? Like I don't disagree with you necessarily but you are giving ground to leftists if you keep this shit up. You don't want troons to start grooming and forcing their politics and propaganda on everyone.Just post bit less tranime and keep your criticism to yourself, /pol/bros can be bit annoying but the alternative is much worse.
The only way to realistically gatekeep is to have something that filters people, like allowing the use of words like nigger or having loli or lots of sex and gore like anime used to. The harder it is for normalfags and other cunts to get into something the more likely it is to remain unpozzed>>715878639
Don't feed the troll.
>>715871264>>715871342/a/ still does public bans for shit like twitter posting to this day btw/v/ and its appointed jannies just fucking blow dick