Who are the biggest assholes in Cyberpunk 2077?Hard mode: No Dex/Placide/Woodman
>>719076773Woodman did nothing wrong. Those whores signed up for it.
Beep beep, motherfucker!
Adam Smasher
These two father and son. There's a side gig where you have to recover a BD for evidence. You basically stumble into an underground BD studio that accepts random people that have been kidnapped (including children), and the studio records whatever the client wants. Usually torture, rape, murder, and humiliation rituals. These two record the sessions and sell them on the black market. The victims are disposed of afterward.
>>719076773Mr. Hands acts like a redditor and browbeats me when I decide to stop the armenian genocide (if i let it happen i would get 4000 eurodollars)
>>719076773The president from Phantom Liberty.
>>719076985Literally did nothing wrong.
>>719078618>we're just editors, and if it's not us, it will be someone else!i killed the son first to watch the father cry for a bitexcellent side mission
>>719076773I waste every scav I see, fuck those faggots
>>719076773CIA nigger played by Elba, forgot his name. Fuck him and their whole organization.
>>719076773Me probably. I pull over and kill any grey circles that pop up on my minimap no matter what they're doing just as a break from the never ending dialogue that makes up 80% of this game.
I wanted to kill every single npc in that game and of course because it's a piece of shit game I couldn't.I would put a hole in Jacky's head before he has the chance to make some terribly sounding Spanish word substitution.
>>719083991
Dex is not even an asshole, just retard. Wakako and Mama Nigrite for me.
I'll never grasp why people hate some characters but not others. People shit on Reed for not having all the right answers, or worship Johnny just because he's one of billions of people who recognize corporate monopolies suck ass, and then turn around and gush about how Panam is "ride or die" if you do everything she wants you to do and never question her.Frankly I think Reed is alright. Meyers is a sucky person but everybody in leadership in that game is the WORST person or else they wouldn't be leading such an awful world. Panam and Songbird aren't suddenly good people just because they have tits. Heck V isn't a good person if you have him whine about "justice" in between killing sprees. If you got mad at Dex but shot the Netwatch agent without hearing him out, you don't have much room to judge Dex because the world sucks and no shit you have to act before you're the one who gets fucked. If you did hear the Netwatch agent out, you're either stupid or just really wanted to get Brigit fried.
>>719086383>just really wanted to get Brigit fried.Why wouldn't you want to get her fried? VDBs are such massive assholes I'd side with anyone to get them fucked.
>>719083402Based
>>719086895One problem is you can't trust either party. The VDB are trying to get you killed, and if not for Alt then Netwatch would probably have killed you too. You don't know at the outset the VDB are going to fry your brain, but making a deal with a dangerous netrunner while he's under duress had zero possible good endings for you if not for plot armor.
>>719076773That one Tyger Claws doctor that scrolls torture and snuff BDs. Jotaro I believe? It's an early Gig
>>719083793This and the president.
>>719076773The shadow illuminati MK-Ultraing Peralez
>>719083793Reed isn't an assholeHe's a dangerously spineless retardFuck him and the rest of the CIA glow in the dark niggers, except for Alex she's okay.
>>719088062Yeah, everyone involved in that is a huge POS. He runs a trafficking ring and if you pay close enough attention you can piece together who's involved and wipe them out over the course of the game.It's weird he gets slaughtered so early on though. You can literally run straight to his house and kill him within 5 mins of finishing the tutorial
>>719076773Hanako for not letting me pet her yamato nadeshiko bush.
Why do people hate her?She literally did nothing wrong
>>719089515Reed is the only way to get an actual good ending for V. People whine that "it's depressing" because Panam won't answer your calls but she's a timebomb anyway. The ending where you spend your last six months having stressful arguments with her in the desert (and she's sweet only when she gets her way or knows she's gone too far) is probably worse than the Arasaka ending if you can read between the lines.Reed actually cares, and yes, they are doing some evil shit to Songbird, but that organization spends TWO YEARS bringing V back from death. That's in the American healthcare system, mind. It likely cost them millions of eddies but they still get you fixed up.
>>719086383>Johnny just because he's one of billions of people who recognize corporate monopolies suck asshe was also a part of the team that nuked the biggest corpo's hqs
>>719090060I'd rather die than owe a life debt to the feds
>>719089967Bitch lied to me about everything, back to glowniggers she goes
>>719089967everything she tells v is a total lie or only half of the truth. v gets railroaded into simping for her but doesnt even get to smash that robotic ass of hers. instead she is taken away (one way or another) and v never gets the chance to talk with her about what happened.
>>719076985Can I just say I love how Keanu says the name "Smasher". Just dripping with dislike and contempt. That's some top tier voice acting.
I hate all NPCs that won't shut the fuck up, which means I hate Keanu the most. Probably the only tolerable NPC before I got sick of the game was the detective.Though I gotta say, the thing that sets the stage for how awful that game will be is... if you send Jackie's body home, then at the start of the next act his mom calls you. If you give her your condolences, she says, "don't talk to me like I'm some stranger!"Lady, this is the first time in the game that we've spoken.
>>719089967>kill everyone>hand her ass to ReedV never loses, biiiatch
>>719090835>don't talk to me like I'm some stranger!"You lived at her house for almost 6 months, it's shown in the intro cutscene with Jackie. Didn't you pay attention?
>>719076773Songbird.>OH NO, IT IS THE CONSEQUENCES OF MY OWN ACTIONS.>SAVE ME VI
>>719091240I noticed that they glossed over that, yes, rather than having a slower-paced opening that makes you feel anything at all about any of the characters.Maybe V cares about Jackie's mom since he lived with her for six months, but I don't give a fuck about her, since all I've seen of her is one or two glimpses in a montage.
>>719089967I went into PL with an open mind about Songbird, I wanted to believe in her and sympathize with the minor parallels with V.But she was such an obvious snake that I just ended up selling her back to the feds.The only thing that made me feel even remotely bad about my choices was the conversation with Johnny when you're getting flown out of Night City, but there can only be one.
>>719089967>Guilt trips you>Lies to you until the very endI killed her because fuck glownigger and fuck the machines, but otherwise I would have had her suffer a little more
>>719083192>If I don't steal it, someone else will
>>719089728I like that you can threaten woodman if you did the Jotaro mission
>>719084582Killing every NPC is a thing in RPGs anon. Sounds edgy, but immersing yourself as the anomaly or calamity which punishes everyones sin is fun sometimes.
>>719086383Panam genuinely sucks as a partner. You have to walk on eggshells around her constantly and if you ever do something she doesn't like in any way she freaks out and gets really nasty and spiteful.
>>719091456>Believing the fedsThey've probably isolated the "relic"-cancer in your brain and lobotimized you in the process. You proved to be too capable, thus a potential grave danger.
>>719086383>>719091690yeah shes an utter cunt, which is a shame because the VA is pretty top tier.
>>719090172He was part of the distraction team and his memory is a fucking mess. Johnny was an expendable moron, but was the most complete person they could get a hold of because Blackhand's grains got obliterated. You notice how his memories don't line up? He dies twice in the first memory, and when rescuing Alt, he's watching himself play rock music on the streets while riding the elevator in Arasaka Tower.Backhand did all that cool shit. Johnny was an intolerable narcissist, his own band could barely stand him, and he was viewed as an expendable way to make a mess to cover for the real ops.
>>719091750that might be the case, but V still gets to live a long normal life.He's set up from all the cash he earned so it will be comfortable too.
>>719089967I don't, I just sided against her because I was playing a character who wanted to live and found her to be way more treacherous than reed. I don't think she was really in the wrong, in a world like CP, in her position, and with her abilities I would also do as she did, but that doesn't mean I would be right or good. Johnny was right through phantom liberty, these aren't good people or rightous people, or even really people, they're trained sociopaths trying to win a life or death game, so when interacting with them why shouldn't V be like that too?
Judy is a stupid bitch
>>719091690That's not normal?
>>719076773>Who are the biggest assholes in Cyberpunk 2077?Panam. She's a hot piece of ass, but she's such a fucking cunt.
>>719091750Part of why V is that capable is because Johnny's mind is splitting some of the burden that normally makes a person cyberpsychotic. Once they remove Johnny, V can no longer tolerate cybernetics beyond a normal person even if he didn't get his neurons neutered.If you listen to the guy actually talk, he's not generally very smart or clever. Johnny frequently has to point out the obvious to V to help him understand things. Exorcising Johnny is enough to make V not a threat to anyone, if that's a concern. That's also why it's strongly implied that the Crystal Palace heist fails and V dies, with all his friends and family leaving messages like, "Hey, haven't heard from you in a while."At that point he's no longer very capable.
>>719091981Take that back you son of a bitch!
>>719091981>Be mean to Judy>Be mean to Evelyn>Charge Judy to help her in her hoe side mission>Sell her ass to the pink hair ladyor>Kill everyone in the meeting, pink hair lady included>Tell her I won't dive in shit lake with you
>>719091981Judys questline is hilarious how it's just a series of escalating failures. By far the worst major questline in the game and it isn't even close.
>>719092756>Judys questline is hilarious how it's just a series of escalating failuresYeah, it's called being relatable.
>>719092081Enough women are like that, enough that we've all met one, but no that is not normal.And Panam doesn't ease into it. Your introduction to her is her shouting at Rogue, who's already sick of her shit and doesn't care what Nash did to her. Then you talk to her and she's ready to take your head off for daring to call her. She's the ONLY partner who needs a second party in the form of Mitch to take your calls in the Phantom Liberty ending and she has Mitch tell you to stop calling. If you don't personally fix all of Panam's problems yourself, She'll die in the streets thanks to her poor social skills and inability to network.She's legitimately a terrible partner choice, probably the worst one in the game. Sure, Judy may ditch you in many endings but Judy at least talks to you about it in person, tells you why, and in those endings you're planning another suicide heist so she's not fully in the wrong.
>>719078618That's the mission where I decide I would drop going non lethal and made sure that there is no survivor when I encounter gangs.
>>719091651Mentioning him to Judy also allows you to skip part of the quest and go straight to the XBD salesman
I'm playing this for the first time, about 7 hours in and it's awesome one of hte most well made games I've played in agesAny important perks I should get early on? I'm just fucking around now after the 6 hour long prologue (don't spoil anything for me bros)
>>719093208That one is Maelstrom. Maelstrom is so fucked up I'm not sure how they get members or make money. They kidnap a monk and give him implants "as a joke", but their joke costs thousands of eddies so it's completely insane. They sell snuff BDs, but the market for that can't be huge AND they're competing with Tyger Claws AND Scavs for the exact same demo.Tyger claws at least own and maintain businesses and property. There's a scene where some tenants are complaining about a leak in the building and the Tyger says he'll fix it. I don't know what the fuck Maelstrom does besides killing people for no reason and jacking off to it.
>>719076773That jeet that raped me in the tank.
>>719093471Get the implant that uses health items automatically and the body perks that give adrenaline. They're must-haves for survivability. Aside from that just promote whatever weapon you're using. Find an Iconic you like, because buffing an iconic is often easier than praying the RNGesus for an upgraded copy of a normal weapon. Weirdly, gun dealers only sell like two guns each.
>>719093471I typically rush air dash first, it's good no matter what build you're dong, then max out whatever primary damage I do. Or the other way around depending on what you prefer.
>>719093848The dash is no good on PC unless you use a controller, which then makes aiming harder.It's bound to cntrl or alt or something. Fucking insane key mapping, you cannot rapidly reach it and WASD at the same time without hurting yourself.
>>719088857Myers at least can be trusted to keep her promises, provided you do everything she asks you to do. Nah, biggest asshole in setting will always be Saburo. Nigga has been ruining the world for the last century or so because he's still butthurt his country didn't win WW2.
>>719093614Maelstrom survive by strength alone based on what I've seen, they are the most chromed-out people in the setting, even if it's rudimentary stuff by comparison to what rich peple can afford, they are like the "swiss army knife of thugs" because of it.It also helps that they are insane adrenaline junkies who are riding the line of cyberpsychosis, so not only does their tech allow them to be more versatile than other gangs, but their horrific personalities also mean they don't give a FUCK about what they do, there are no morals whatsoever holding them back.There is a market for that, not just to be hired, but to work for; there are a LOT of fucked-up people IRL that you will likely (and hopefuly) never encounter in-person, but they are almost completely insane in one way or another, and they flock to other insane people like them and end up forming big groups of insane people, then act like a lighthouse for all the other insane people who hear about them to join. That is how Maelstrom survives and thrives.
>>719093471You have quite a bit of freedom to build into whatever archetype you want. You'll definitely want Tech for getting a shitload of nice augs though. Handguns and shotguns wreck shit.
>>719093987Game doesn't tell you but you can also dash by double tapping a movement key.
>>719093987>on PCanon, you can just rebind the keys to something better for you
>>719094284>>719094301Holy shit. I had no idea.
>>719094210They also have the transhumanism angle working for them.
>>719076773>Who are the biggest assholes>Also pls dont mention the biggest assholesRetarded OP
>>719094301No, wait, I knew you can edit the keymapping, but it's not built in. You have to toy with a config file and also parse the configuration file, which is a pain in the ass.But I had no idea you can just double-tap to dash.
>>719093614Maelstrom runs one of the most popular clubs in the city, and also has major smuggling connections. There's a mini-quest where you investigate Maelstrom getting ripped off and killed by a gang of Wraiths crossing the border. they're also backed by Night Corp, for various reasons
>>719093471If you spec into Body and Cool, you can use pistols, shotguns and sniper/precision rifles, which kinda covers all situations. From my experience ARs and machine guns are not particularly good in this game.I'd also put at least 9 points into Reflex for the dash ability.
>>719092081it's common but not normal
>>719076773Jotaro Shobo - Literally known as Devil of Kabuki, his hobby is buying slaves and kills them just to record black braindances. Scavengers - Literal russian rats. They will kidnap random people just to kill then and them take away all cyberware. Literally you can just walk around and then you hear someone scream "Davai cyka" and few scavs jumps out of nowhere and just kills you and that is not the worst thing they can do to you. They also kidnap random people and record sick torture black braindances with them or kidnap random people, remove biomonitor making them literally lose identify and then these victims are sold as slaves to people like Jotaro Shobo.
>>719089967she made my cock hard and then turned me into the king of simps in her path. after doing reed path ended up granting her wish and now dont know which is worse. being a simp or mercy killer
>>719090060>but that organization spends TWO YEARS bringing V back from death.its never confirmed if they actually did use the neural mcguffin on V. its a ultra rare relic from times past containing a secret demon after all they could have very easily just let surgeons do the other painful path. which is to fry out the brain connection to all cyberware so the relic cant overwrite V anymore
>>719091981She's not really a notable bitch, she's just stupid and really not cut out for NC.
>>719094867Yeah, rest of the gangs I go non lethal with if I can, scavs get neck snapped and thrown in the dumpster, where they belong. Whatever you do to them, they deserve worse.
>>719094628>machine gunsThe iconic LMG from Dogtown with the firecracker weapon mod is fucking nuts though. Still not the best weapon you can get, but it's a lot of fun just unloading with it.
>>719094628Psalms is a good AR because it inflicts burning as an AoE.Honestly, though, the precision rifles straight up inflict "dead" on most enemies at most ranges, so it's all you need.The game is a little frustrating it that it wanted to make handguns and rifles be equal choices to each other, so even though an AR shoots larger rounds, it does less damage per shot, and killing enemies gradually is way worse than killing them instantly.
>>719078618Oh yeah, fuck them
AltShe's a literal goddess of the Net but she won't help you because Johnny was mean to her once or something
I can't decide which gang is worse between Scavs and MaelstromOn the one hand, Scavs are all the lowest of criminal scum, kidnapping random people to harvest their cyberware, traffick them and film some XBDs while they're at it On the other hand, every single Maelstrom member with no exception is batshit insane and one step away from going cyberpsycho, and it doesn't help they all get chrome boners from deranged shows of ultra violence.
>>719076985isnt he just an employee like the rest?>>719089967my sweet babygirl meow meow, still never saving her as she is doomed from the start
Saburo
>>719096225On one hand, Maelstrom literally worships a rogue AI that demands blood sacrifice.On the other hand, they also hate scavs and look down on them with disgust. So the scavs are probably worse.
>>719096208She expressly does help you in all endings but Phantom Liberty and the Aradaka route. She can't help you when you first meet because she needs access to Mikoshi, where the software for making engrams is managed. Her "help" also consists of killing you, then putting your engram into the Relic after removing Johnny's engram, or vice versa.If anything she's being a little lazy, but it's all she can do through software alone. Arasaka, on the other hand, also does only that bare minimum because they have no real desire to help and barely honor the bargain.
>>719096103with a Comrade's Hammer.
>>719096250Adam is cyberpsycotic and his lore is basically, "the only way what's left of this man feels alive is when someone else's life is being personally ended by him". He's evil, kind of, in the same way a wasp is evil. His only emotion is angry and the only reason they never put him down is because he's able to be quietly angry.
Fingers did nothing wrong, you just want to beat him up (as the game lets you do) because he makes you feel uncomfortable about your masculinity
The guy from that fucking mission
>>719096701Stop being french RIGHT NOW
>>719091893>He's set up from all the cash he earned so it will be comfortable too.And all the powerful enemies he made while earning this cash. V is fucked in the glownigger ending
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>>719076773>Easy modePlacideFuck that guy, and that's not even considering his skin colorHe's just a plain fucking asshole
>>719089967I don't, only incels hate her. There are literal faggots on here who literally decided that siding with the king of all corpos is the best ending in a game whose entire narrative is about the dangers of corporations.
>>719096804Even his boss calls him a basic animal.
>>719096783Partly because V is legit a little retarded and chooses to go back to Night City and call everybody he knows. Everyone, including the gangs he fucked, thought he died or went so underground they'd never find him. It's one reason Reed tells him not to go back, but of course we can't make choices and V has to be a dipshit towards Reed and Takemura in most of his dialogue choices because "fuck the system and also myself especially".
>>719078618Where'd you get that idea? They're just editors, like Judy, they don't scroll the abuse. The gig is about recovering the raw BD of one of their "donators" in order to use it as evidence to identify him and put him away if I recall.
>>719097167>they don't make any drugs bro they just pack and sell them
I can imagine a dominican person cumming irl from being able to murder a bunch of criminal haitian refugees. That must be extremely cathartic for them.Fuck the VDB. Netrunners are basically wizards and nothing good ever comes out of associating oneself with wizards.
>>719096804Found the ranyon
>>719097351"Yon bet debaz" is not a term of endearment.
>>719089967Songbird is very kissable but damn she is lying like crazy, bad waifu material and even her veing cute wont help
Maiko
Fuck Saul
>>719096406>On one hand, Maelstrom literally worships a rogue AI that demands blood sacrifice.i missed this somewhere
>>719096804>>719096908slider doesn't like him either, even the rest of the voodoo boys think he's an asshole
>Song Bird is a horrible manipulator>Alt (A.I.) is an asshole in a terrifying, chaotic-neutral way
>>719096621I don’t want to beat him up, since then I won’t be able to get some top tier implants.
>>719101368They changed that shit. Feel free to fuck him up.
>>719101368>Treat him like a gentleman to fuck with Judy>Tell her to fuck off when she gets uppity with him>Leave him be>Fuck with Judy later on>Get implants>Kill him later
My cyberpunk OTP is Placide x kamyonet
>>719101775All Ripperdocs have the same inventory now.
>>719076773corpo devs
>>719089967She's a bitch but the kind of bitch I can laugh and forgive.No, I don't find her particularly hot. Panam's all around better.
>>719089967I still liked her, and helped her to the end. Plus that final confrontation with Reed, while obvious, was kino. Reed died for his country. Its what he would've wanted.
>>719078618Everyone involved in making giga fucked BDs are good candidates honestly, no matter if they're the ones scrolling them or the people getting rich off editing and distributing them.
>>719102223What a waste
>>719102223I actually like that, I can now visit my man Viktor Vektor exclusively, no way I'm going to let anybody else mess with my chrome.
>>719076773ArasakaThey basically created the hell cube.
>>719089967I like her but I understand why people dislike her, she lies about everything to everyone to get what she wants. But if I was in her situation I'd do the same desu, plus it's not like Reed is any better.
>>719098540
>>719102223>>719105160you still have to go to dogtown ripperdocs to buy the PL iconic cyberwares
>>719105384Well that's because it's paid content exclusive to PL.
>>719102223>>719105160Doesn't that mean the best Ripperdoc is the one you can get the discount from?
>>719076773The father and son who produce the snuff braindances
Why everyone hate Arasaka for no reason?
>>719105853>for no reason
>>719076773>>719078618the russian scavs that produce the XBD's that you take out in Judys path are way worse. everyone in the abandoned factory died.
>>719105853militech shills
>>719093471many gigs require you to do stealth runs, so dont spec everything into guns alone. silenced pistols and throwing knives are OP af and going stealth is fun.
>>719094210>junkies who are riding the line of cyberpsychosisthat one maelstrom cyberpsycho with mantis blades was fucking kino. had to learn katana combat the hard way but now its fun af.
>>719076773Songbird, obviously
>>719094284>try to sneak up to someone>micro muscle movement taps W twice>dash into himits not a good solution. I dash more by accident than on purpose.
Conversely, who are the biggest bros in the game?River and Vic are pretty high up there for me, though they are easy choices.
The best ending is still the one where you give your body to Johny it's his by right he's the only reason you're even alive after getting shot in the head.
>>719107401It's not "his", but it is the best ending because V is gonna die anyway, Johnny is going to at least fuck up some corpos so the body is not wasted.
>>719106021still mad they cut the militech angle with Meredith
>>719076773President Myers and it's no contest for me. Runners up are Songbird and Kerry but they're at least sympathetic
>>719089967She wanted to nuke a stadium and leave Reed and Alex in the middle of that shit. Even if she's sympathetic i got no regrets betraying her to help Iris Elba
It's the Grimes and Tranny Bartender for me. Both are badly written and just make me annoyed having to interact with them.
>>719107985i don't think lizzy wizzy is badly written but grimes cant voice act for shit, cant stand the bartender either though and the trans angle felt forcedi hate that stupid fucking stuffed rabbit strapped to the front of the truck too
>>719078618I always shoot the son and let the dad cry over his body. Peak justice.
>>719108150The whole quest felt like just an edgy fanfic about someone who wanted to have bdsm sex with Grimes. I dunno maybe it's just her voice but I just don't particularly care about her.
>>719108347Then you shoot the father on the back of his head, right?No loose ends.
>>719108419Fuck no. Let him grieve with his son's blood on his hands. Death is too merciful for the old man.
>>719107985I guess her music's nice, at least. Though I haven't heard of Grimes before until I started playing this game.
Regina for killing my boy Skippy, also Skippy for throwing a tantrum and forcing one to give it to Regina.
Literally the only man with the balls to step up to megacorporations and he's 'an asshole'?Who's a good little corpo drone? YOU Who's a good little goy? YOULet them spend your tax dollars amongst themselves and Israel on bullshit, they might give you little bitches some scrapsIt's crazy how people will defend their cagemasters for life and get nothing out of it
>do The Star ending>it's cool and I like how it's a happy ending in comparison to the others, but mfw come to realize halfway though it the game unequipped my clothing for the ice bath you take to speak with Alt so the entire celebration and almost all the way to the Smasher fight I was only wearing the Aldecaldos jacket and a cowboy hat and my dick was flopping around all over the placeI wish there had been a "for God's sake, V put on some pants" dialogue after the ice bath so I didn't feel like a fucking retard later when I realized
what do you think mr. blue eye's goals are?
>>719109142He's an A.I taking over the top leadership roles
>>719108983he's an annoying "we gotta fight the man, man" faggot
>>719096817>NUSA is a corpo lol>raging because he wants to hand her over to the AI running nightcorploser lmao
>>719109142Larping as G-Man/Bob Page
>>719109472>We gotta fight the jews, man.That's what he really means.
>>719109472>we gotta fight the manHe did fight the man though, the nuke is a step up from anything a hippie has ever done
>>719108983He has a personal vendetta against Arasaka, nothing more.
>>719109956This is exactly what I thought, he isn't really anti corpo as much as just anti arasaka because muh gf
>>719108968Regina doesn't kill Skippy, the guy she got him from shows up and takes the AI out of it because he wanted him back. Skippy's still out there, he's just not in that specific gun anymore.
>>719091690Most accurate depiction of having a girlfriend ever.
>>719108983Just some terrorism, nothing terrible
>>719110197He always was anti-corpo but yes the reason he went as as far as he did was personal
>>719076773Do Not kiLL them! Can you at least finish your fucking research?
>>719076773Oh! Also fuck this guy.
>>719108983EVERYONE knows the corporations suck. Even if you bring it up with Takemura he just says "it's stability" and V tells him off for that excuse because it's unstable for everybody, including the heads of state as evidence by the Patricia. But guess what? When EVERYBODY knows it, that doesn't mean you have to choke on the dick of anyone who rants about it? You might as well worship the homeless guy outside Vic's clinic. If Militech gave him a bomb and a budget maybe he'd get himself killed in Arasaka Tower too.People hate Jihnny because he sucks. Hell, even Johnny hates Johnny. Nobody who knew Johnny for more than twenty-four hours liked Johnny, and if you really thought he'd "take a bullet for you", then notice he actually whines and tries to make you feel bad when you get him removed ("you're killing a friend, V, how could you"), and realize that's how he got multiple sex partners all thinking he was going to change.>>719107620Johnny is going to shoot glitter into his dick and wrap another car around a telephone pole.
>>719110970Who
>>719111686ya mum
>>719111332to be fair, the engram is not Johnny but a clone and should not be expected to pay for the sins of the original. In my playthrough he mellowed out and if you honestly believe that>Johnny is going to shoot glitter into his dick and wrap another car around a telephone pole.then you didn't play through his epilogue
>>719095007>which is to fry out the brain connection to all cyberware so the relic cant overwrite V anymorethat wouldnt do shit.the relic released a swarm of nanites into V's brain.
>>719111686Mr Blue eyes.an obvious rogue AI who is part of the leadership of nightcorp.he is the one brainwashing the mayor and he is the one who wants to make a deal with Song bird
>>719109091>Smashing down Adam Smasher with your cock doing helicopter moves all the placeGentleman and a scholar. Johnny would approve.
>>719112350>he is the oneHe's just a human front for the rogue AIs. Willing or not remains up in the air.
>>719096225DumDum was chill in my playthrough
>>719112440no, he is almost certainly a puppet, same shit the OTHER rogue AI was making out of Songbird.Songbird is slowly being hollowed out and REPLACED with an AI the entire time, and when you put together the dialogue from the two main pathlines it all makes sense.If you side with songbird in firestarter it continues to be stealthy and take her piece by piece.If you side with reed she panics and ends up losing far more of herself to it.
>>719076773The devs
>>719112696DumDum always came across as a literal dumb dumb who had no idea how he ended up there but just rolled with it.>>719112734Yes, a puppet. A human face front for the AIs. Whether he is a willing puppet or not is the up in the air bit.
>>719112181He never "mellows out", he just says things people want to believe. He comes across as though he can be cool sometimes, but he swings hot and cold and eventually he goes back to being a massive problem. The engram is confused and it's not even Johnny who planted the bomb. Johnny created a distraction for bomb team and got killed by Smasher as collateral.The only good thing you could say is maybe there's enough other mercs wrapped up in the engram that Johnny is able to function in spite of being largely Johnny.
>>719112837You don't understand.HE is dead.that is a shell at best.
>>719096621Why would i want to beat him up, yes he is a creep. But he has the best double jump implant, early game. Nah the mf'er I wanted mega dead was that black dude in Pacifica. Can't remember his name been a while since I played.
>>719096804Placide, that's his name I couldn't remember, yes that guy was 100% asshole the first time you meet him. I enjoyed killing him.
>>719089967shes quite possibly the dumbest character in history, people only like her because of her design but i find her repulsive
Imagine being an undercover Netwatch agent infiltrating the Voodoo Boys, in motherfucking Dogtown
>>719115463Dumber than Evelyn? How can it be
>>719093614Isn't Maelstrom divided into at least 2-3 groups within it's gang? You get dropped into the game just as one group fucks over the other. One is insane and thinks everyone should be chromed out and does rituals that induce cyberpsychosis, one is insane and just spends all day getting high and listening to garbage music, and one is insane and planning on militarizing the entire gang.
>>719116185That's all fucking gangs, man.
>>719115778she would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for saburo's surprise visit
>>719116976The VDB would have fried her brain regardless
>>719090181This. You're a chromed up war machine, you saved the president and you worked undercover to secure a WMD deep in enemy territory all while dying of brain cancer. If they didn't recruit you, you'd be a liability one day for sure.
>>719086383>Songbird deserves a second chance to live!!!1>after breaching the Blackwall>after crashing SF1>after letting Hansen's turrets mow down civilians>after hijacking a second space shuttle >but she's just like you bro!!
>>719091690>>719092081That's just how women be. That's why I exclusively only date dudes.
>>719116976She was fucked six ways from sunday before even setting foot in Yorinobu's place.>VDBs uploaded the same virus they do to you (the relic essentially saves you from the same fate)>She told the first merc she gets in contact with (you) that she plans to cut out dex which he is immediately made aware of>Netwatch was watching her every move
in a universe where souls canonically exist, why do corpos seek eternity in making a digital copy that isn't even them?
>>719117941Imagine telling a real life billionaire "you can't take it with you" when they can make a computer that acts and thinks like them, who will keep it until the consequences of their actions doom humanity. They'd choose the immortal computer every time.
>>719117929Yeah, what a fucking dumb bitchReally shows how desperate she was
>>719115639Netwatch is legitimately the only corporation in the game who's morally good>Rouge AI trapped behind the blackwall, if released, will throw humanity into the stone age>Netwatch goes around patching up the wall and stopping retards tearing it down>Netwatch agent takes out killswitch installed in you from the VDBs (Replaces it with their own chip, but that chip isn't to kill you)Meanwhile>VDBs want to tear down the wall and talk to AIs and appease them so they don't get killed by them if the wall ever comes down, and they'll kill everyone to do itIts like pushing people off of boats to appease the sharks so they won't eat you
>>719076773The biggest asshole is the higher-up who announced a release date that the developers knew to be impossible.
>>719076773Pretty much every main character is the dlc>>719089967>She literally did nothing wrong>Entire plan hinges on V acting like a video game protagonist and risking his/her life for no reason>Entire plan hinges on V having plot armor like a video game protagonist and being an unstoppable super soldier>>719117941>Why would anyone want to achieve functional immortal? That's not very christian :(>>719118623The VDBs in dogtown are different. They rightfully call the VDBs in night city retarded for messing with the black wall and don't even care when you inform them you wiped the faction out
>>719110970I love how fucked up this quest is. Cyberpunk 2 better have more stuff like this.
The hype for this game was unbelievable. Game didn't live up to the expectations but it was still impressive. CDred is on the decline now. No king rules forever.
>>719120908it was. he did seem like the better choice thoughAI.... good?
>>719089967>called samurai shit>lied constantly>betrayed me twice>has a lame hair colorGuilty, all counts. The sentence is becoming a prisoner for that guy from fast & furious.
>>719096327I like to think he'll get a cool monowire katana that can do judgement cuts after taking his son's body.
>>719096621If I could use my resources to get a good ripper in his place I'd kill him, but even if his implants are shit the hoes still need them.
>>719096793Stronger than Smasher.
>>719105853Lorefags said you should so secondaries don't want to risk revealing themselves by arguing against them.
>>719098540>He hate a reasonable and rational man just doing his best for his people.Grow up Panam.
>>719121738You have to wonder what his "solution" for V is though, maybe he just wants to turn him into another AI like Alt.
>>719091690I like the combative romance options like Panam or Yennefer. They're fun characters even if they would be miserable to be around in real life. V or Geralt aren't well-adjusted people either so they really deserve each other.
>>719110529The US was founded on terrorism , Arisaka deserves a 2nd nuke
>>719115639this place was a fucking labyrinth
>>719122960Panam isn't even that bad, most of this board is just too autistic to understand how a woman thinks or feels. Panam is a hot head who fantasizes about being softer and having a truly loyal partner that stays by her side until death, anything contrary to that is betrayal. The Panam ending is the 2nd best ending for that reason
>>719089967I don't care what she did, but fighting the glowies is the only acceptable option.
>>719109091Topkek
>>719096621>Fingers did nothing wrongI kill him everytime just because I like to make him cry
>>719123383The Mitch ending in Phantom Liberty is just brutal and I think it colored some peoples view of the character. I think CDPR went too far just to satisfy their "no good endings" rule. At least leave it somewhat open ended, their relationship is ruined at the moment but maybe be repaired in the future.
I hope the sequel has technomancers and we get some really weird, surreal tech shit going on.
>>719076985Literally what did Smasher do that was wrong
>>719092194I love her but she can be a giga bitch sometimes. Doesn't help that the Aldecaldos always seem to bend over backwards for her. I wanted to romance Judy as male v but I was shot down
>>719076773the first thing to come to mind when i think cyberpunk2077 and the biggest asshole is songbird. fuck that traitorous bitch
>>719110832>NO DON'T KILL THE MASS MURDERERS IT WASN'T THEIR HECKING FAULT!!!!
>>719076773the troon bartender
>>719128124He was hilariously unlikable and retarded
I think the biggest asshole in CP2077 is the way that cyberware stats work.>You can't re-roll them.>They're always a combination of three random stats from a list of like 30 potential stats.>The values of the three random stats are, themselves, random.>If you want to buy a new cyberware augment and get three more random stats which are themselves random in scale, you also have to upgrade it again. >Upgrade materials are scarce. >The cost to rebuy cyberware is steep.Why does this system even exist? It's completely untenable to re-roll and re-buy and re-upgrade so that you might PERHAPS MAYBE stack even a single cyberware stat across your cyberware; even to stack one, the way the system currently works you would need thousands of upgrade materials and millions of €$; the mechanic is unsuable without cheats and mods.The system that they implemented for CW stats is patently unfinished because it's nonsensical and doesn't work, the system shouldn't have left the alpha state the way it is, let alone right here five whopping years post-launch at version 2.3But that's just me!
>>719096327Will he keep his promise to /v/?
>>719128124which one?
>>719076773reed in the dlc for being a sellout to the president>could do the right thing>ends up lapdog for myersI guess his character is "guy who will do anything for his master" but still.
>>719096327It's a shame you don't interact with Arasaka at all outside the very beginning and very end. I completely forgot Yorinobu until I had to raid the tower myself. Phantom Liberty was much better in that regard
>>719131641It's clear they couldn't realize fully the story they envisioned. Lot's of rushed or blind spots all over the narrative that could've been expanded.
>>719130318>Why doesn't Reed just betray his country and organization and wind up a wanted criminal with nothing to live for? It'd be the right thing!I do not get this. I feel you don't have to agree with the NUSA or Arasaka to appreciate that Takemura or Reed are just doing the "right thing" in their own context. V turns to crime because it's the "right thing" for him. Takemura works for Arasaka because it's the "right thing". Of course Reed works for the NUSA, he's one of their agents. Carrying out his mission is the right thing.The question you 8ught to be asking yourself is, who's V's actual client. You're a merc, dumbass. Who pays you? Is it Meyers or Songbird? Because Songbird sure makes some promises but Meyers actually pays you.
>>719134374Well you're getting paid in a cure, something both promise you
>>719076985Nah, he's based
>>719089967Only retarded simps like her because she's a gook.If Songbird happened to be an ugly brown guy, no one would side with them.
>>719093614They are the most Technically savvy gang alongside the VB. Their database entry and some supplementary materials suggest Maelstrom are far more shrewd at business than their reputation suggests, considering their empire in smuggling, drug dealing, and black market tech sales. The database also suggest that their crazy reputation is deliberately played up by the gang to keep their rivals wary about meddling wit them.
>>719135473It's a crime how underused maelstrom is. They are basically the tutorial gang and it sucks.
>>719135118Songbird promises a cure, but by the point where you choose who to side with it should be readily apparent the NUSA has resources to attempt the cure, whereas So Mi has betrayed both the NUSA and Dogtown and she has no real means of doing anything in the unlikely event of her escape. Her penultimate plan is "do terrorism and leave in the chaos", and it can only work because she gets help from a video game protagonist.Meanwhile, Reed only needs to capture So Mi, which is way more doable. Bare in mind, So Mi using the blackwall to resist capture is what flips her into cyberpsychosis and dooms her. Her escape hatch was suicidal. The only thing that goes wrong is So Mi detects the ICE before it gets her.
>>719135473do they make all their implants or is there some brand that just makes maelstrom themed imlpants
>>719136480Maelstrom implants, from my understanding is half military grade tech being put on people who don't give a shit about what they look like and don't have a deal with NUSA or Militech to put them back the way they started as, and half self built/improved/modified shit, and, again, they don't care if they look like a psychopath.So they get more performance out of their shit than the average joe, but end up looking like freaks because of it.
>>719137205they probably rig up parts from full-borg bodies, robots, and drones as well
>>719136480They just use parts that are readily-available but coloured red anon. The optics you see them using are actually Kiroshis, same as what V has.>>719099024There's a few quests revolving around it, most obvious one is a cyberpsycho sighting. Maelstrom's plan is to merge their consciousnesses with an AI called "Lilith", which is probably the single most evil entity in the entire Cyberpunk universe.
>>719076985Smasher just loves his job don't hate on him meatbag
>>719078618If I play a game I just let maximal amount of people liveIm not buying into some fake moral scenario composed by some poleI hope they kidnap more children and produce snuff with them. Fuck cp kids
>>719137205Desu I'd love to see what a fully borged out militech squad would look like before they made all the cyberware sleek and visually appealing and how they would cope to going back to civilian life looking like mechanical freakshows
>>719138921>going back to civilian life looking like mechanical freakshowsThats militech property mate.They pull out all the fun toys before they send you back to civvy life. And I imagine its in most contracts to give you a basic faceplate and whatnot. Same principle as what Whizzy or a bunch of NPCs supposedly have, where they're mostly artificial on the outside. Hell that one bartender's wife is so altered he thought his kid didn't look enough like him to be his.
>>719097295Pulled it outta your ass then, gotcha.
>>719110970Blues eyesBlue I'sB.IA... I... Wtf.. woah...
>>719093471>Any important perks I should get early on?Depends on how you play. My recommendation: blades and throwing knives, so reflexes and cool. Keep in mind you'll have attribute checks during some dialogs that can affect your story, so I HIGHLY recommend doing side missions wherever possible before completing the main quests.
>>719089967I want to fuck her mouth
>>719076773probably Jotaro Shobo. until V shows up his xbd operation was kidnapping and shipping people into Night City to be sexually tortured to death for his art projects.
>>719096225>>719096406IMO scavs are worse. Maelstorm tend to be crazy as fuck but them attacking random people is more an incident than usual thing As they are more interested in robbing corporate convoys and being hired to defend stuff. Also you wont have to deal with Maelstorm if you stay away from northside.Meanwhile scavengers are fucking everywhere and they literally live from attacking random people, kidnapping them and stealing their cyberware, no matter where you go in night city you must have in mind that if you walk alone scavengers can at any moment attack you. I bet most most common thing other gangs and NCPD do is killing scavengers.
>>719076773>No PlacideYes placide, i side with the netwatch agent so his crew dies and i get to shoot extra assholes on his nigga ass.
>>719085096Pretty sure dex hires you and jackie because he thinks he can play you and leave you to arasaka when they come looking for their biochip, he only shoots you himself because the heist turned into murder and arasaka wasn't going to stop at the alleged perpetrators.
>>719139083Lizzy is a full body replacement. She "killed" herself on stage and had Trauma Team transfer her brain into her current body as part of a show she did.
>>719145334Yup, V even says as much. It's probably the only reason to haze Dex with Evelyn that makes rational sense.
Lizzy
>>719111686AHHHMR MORDEN
>>719147065Cool it Elon, it just didn't work out. Maybe you'll find another BPD to deal with you.
>>719096621It's funny how this guy chooses to look like this in the world of Cyberpunk 2077.
>>719145334>dex hires you and jackie because he thinks he can play you and leave you to arasaka when they come looking for their biochipThere's no evidence for that.What is actually said in the game is that Dex and T-Bug know each other well and it's only really because of her that the gig was offered to V and Jackie. Friend of a friend type thing. Also it's pretty heavily implied that Dex doesn't have the best reputation at the moment and he's trying to rebuild that and burning mercs isn't going to help him there.That being said, in the original story Dex and T-Bug join up and betray V and Jackie together. V is the one that kills her.
>>719105853They're so nice they don't even come looking for you when you fuck them over and steal their chip
>>719076773Silverhand
>>719150591>t. Arasaka goon
>>719148792Why not?
>>719076773Ive been playing through this game recently. Having fun. Havent gone too fat storywise yet, game keeps begging me to call mama brogitte after I nearly got fried by her, fuck that.I'm not too sure what build to go far. 9/9/12/12/12 right now.
>>719118623>Netwatch is legitimately the only corporation in the game who's morally good>working with militech to weaponise said blackwall AI
>>719157957Oh yeah, almost forgot about that
>>719145334He kills you because you are a loose end that could be drawn back to him.seems his plan sucked though as Takemura literally uses Dex as his ticket for doing the opposite, finding you.
>>719097295>>719097167>>719078618You can find evidence 1 room away that they also participate in doing fucked up shit to the kidnapees. I recall you could get hard written evidence of the son enjoying and arranging some of the stuff himself. There's also the panties of a girl among their stuff in the next room, indicating they definitely stripped and fucked one personally there before disposal.Anyone arguing these dudes were innocent didn't pay attention. That's the point. people in cyberpunk LIE. They will lie a whole assed dialogue sometimes but you will find contrary stuff nearby. Don't be a caveman dingus, and instead find the truth yourself.
>>719092216It's specially egregious in the corpo path. You'd expect an agent trained in subterfuge and sabotage to keep his cards close to his chest, but the dialogue options are just flaunting how he knows things and used to live a relatively good life (outside of the work related stress, getting to go to Japan and all that). He's got the subtlety of a sledgehammer
>>719101558Well, that's garbage. An RPG should have tradeoffs
>>719161878I went and looked cos I was kinda curious. The underwear is a generic model found everywhere in the game, so I'm not totally convinced there. I didn't find any shards of them owning up to commiting the abuse, but there was one of them negotiating to buy a raw BD of some fucked up shit that they could edit - that one was directly involved in the gig.There was also one between the father and someone else, and it sounded like the dad was coercing or taking advantage of his sons naivite to make him join in on the editing? The dad was definitely holding power over him in some sinister way.I'm not saying either of them are innocent, just that they didn't commit the abuse first hand. They still perpetuate and incentivize it at the least, which is arguably just as bad if not worse since it would encourage abusers to do more and more fucked up shit for a cut of real profit, in addition to whatever kick they get out of actually doing it.
>>719161878>I recall you could get hard written evidence of the son enjoying and arranging some of the stuff himselfI thought there was a pad around that had the father arguing with a gangbanger about how the former was forcing his son into it and that he shouldn't do it
>>719115778I liked Evelyn, desu. Didn't deserve that
>>719096804There is literally no decent Voodoo Boy left in the gang or alive. By the 2070s, they're pretty much a death cult that believes Rogue AIs can be reasoned with, when every interaction you have with them proves otherwise. The only decent ones leave the cult or they're dead and have been dead for years.Agwe is highly respected but of course, he isn't somehow around in 2077. Pacifica speaks of him highly but they have no idea if he's alive or not, which either means he left, was killed/had a takeover or disappeared off the map within the Net. It seems likely it was the latter 2, and the only reason the literal protector of the Haitians would up and leave would be for a serious threat or uprising. Slider figured it out and that's why he delta'd the fuck out of the Voodoo Boys in Pacifica. He wanted to just commit crime, essential piracy and do petty shit that wouldn't really hurt anyone but the FIA/NetWatch in an annoying way. Brigitte is full-bent on piercing the Blackwall AI, something which NetWatch cannot even control and most likely use as a front for spying on the entire net.The only decent Voodoo Boys are, ironically, in Dogtown, which would label them mostly ex-Voodoo Boys, but they're still loyal to Brigitte and blind to it.It's hard to really describe how SHIT the Voodoo Boys are. They're so shit that you can trust a guy who might not even be a NetWatch agent (but took the identity of one) who uploads a virus into your head (same thing the Voodoo Boys do, but they don't tell you and intend to kill you), and is using you as bait. Oh, and if you believe he's an actual NetWatch agent, he's a corpo-agent who's spying on NC and the remaining Net, restricting free speech and the flow of information. And siding with him is a braindead 1st pick over the Voodoo Boys.
>>719165837she's a dumb retard in way over her head it's no surprise she goes through some awful shit then dies
The worst character by far is V, I can't believe how retarded and how buck broken he is when it comes to night city. This military grade retard gets fucked time and again by night city and he keeps coming back for more.The heist ending is the worst one by far, because it shows how V is retarded and he's willing to throw everything away, even worst if you romanced Panam, and decide to go on a suicide mission for some shady faggot.
>>719167414>Oh, and if you believe he's an actual NetWatch agent, he's a corpo-agent who's spying on NCDo you just pull stuff out of your ass all day every day or what?
>>719168591You fucking netwatch glowie spook, fuck off
>>719168650I was trying to bait you into explaining yourself but I guess now I'll just ask you to explain yourself.Can you please explain yourself?
I don't know who's the biggest asshole but I know who have the most delicious asshole.
>>719168097>He wants the guy in the crime story to stop doing crimes and quit early, retire and live a quiet lifeDo you think every GTA protagonist is retarded and buck broken? Red Dead? Scarface?
>>719168869judy 100% is into massive anal insertions (a kink she picked up from editing bds)
This bitch, fill every hole I got with SIR John Phallustiff then leaves and never calls ;_;
NUKE POLAND
>>719168762There's a random dead guy in Pacifica with the same name the Netwatch agent has when you're sent into the Mall by Placide. Either the Netwatch agent killed that guy, took his credentials and scrambled your Kiroshi (keeping his identity safe, this is the most likely explanation), or somehow there's more going on with Netwatch being used as a front to attack the Voodoo Boys on a more personal and closer level than Netwatch had ever done before at that point. Netwatch is a Brit/European corp that didn't develop shit, its an AI, probably the only one they had remaining that hadn't gone rogue yet and is intelligent enough to "keep out" anything that tries to get past it from the old net. Due to the "risk of messing with the blackwall", they have near ultimate power over the current usable net to track anyone and all information communicated on the net. >why don't they care about the murders/daemons locally They only care when they're paid to care, or when it presents a "problem" to the corp. They DO care about the blackwall, but most people never try and fuck with it. The Voodoo Boys are the ones who do. The Blackwall is a ticking time bomb in Cyberpunk anyway, by 2077 the NUSA and even Maelstorm is breaching it, either by pure dumb luck or by investing heavy amounts of research. TL;DR, humanity's fucked, Netwatch didn't develop the Blackwall and only made deals with it, they use their status to spy on citizens and Netrunners as the Net's authority, Rogue AIs are already piercing the Blackwall anyway, Voodoo Boys are retards
>>719169119I said V is retarded, he's given multiple chances to stop being a criminal but he goes back in anyway. Besides, as far as I know, being a merc is not a crime, sure he pisses everyone off by being duplicitous. He's just a merc doing his job.GTA protags are a case by case basis since their story end where they might have a chance of simply retiring, with the exception of Tommy, Johnny and maybe Louis, where none of the three actually leave, but move up in the crime hierarchy.Red dead, sure, especially Jack. He had the chance to live a different life than his dad did and he threw it away to seek out revenge.It's been a while since I've seen Scarface so I can't comment on it.
>>719168869>>719169413It's genuinely upsetting that you can't rail her.
>>719076773The writers for refusing a happy ending
>>719172436yeah she'd absolutely bang you in the bathroom at the casino just to piss off her brother. cdprojekt fumbled hard
>>719089967>lies from the first second>is behind all of it>tries to betray everyone she comes into contact withenjoy being in the blackwall 24/7 you manipulative bitch
>>719123859>I think CDPR went too far just to satisfy their "no good endings" rule>V gets cured, no "you'll live for another 6 months then die" >gets offered a job as well>throws a massive tantie because they can't use chrome anymorethe nusa ending is as good as it gets in cuberpunk and V is just a retarded child for not recognizing itthen again, they agree to heist one or arasaka's most cutting edge prototypes from what is essentially their fortress, with a single net runner as backup, with the most notorious fuckup as their fixer and are surprised when shit goes sideways
>>719127958But anon, she was desperate! So it's ok to use literally everyone in your way, causing massive amounts of destruction!
>>719173085Can you blame her? Her life is way worse than V's, and so is her inevitable fate. V can decide to understand the need for deception and help her out of sheet empathy. It's sweet (not in a simp way).
>>719169328>can't have a stern corpo mommy that's all gentle in bed as femVtotal CDPR rape
>>719174159something something quiet life or blaze of glory
>>719096621>installs non-working thrash into people's bodies only so he can grope them while they're underNah, he did some wrong.
>>719174318Yes I can. Just because your situation is bad, nightmarish even, that doesn't mean you can manipulate everyone in your way, playing on their deepest most desperate desires and then walk away with the "but dude, I was in a tough spot!" excusse, she's fucking evil>yeah, thanks for doing everything. By the way, there's only one seat on the rocket, carry me to it and then die. Thanks ily <3if V wasn't dying I could get behind it, but song deliberately jangles those keys over V's head repeatedly only to lead V into ruining the actual cure that is in NUSA's hands
>>719174487Yeah, I want to go out in a blaze of glory!>friend dies on your handsoh god this sucks...>chip in your brain slowly dissolving youThis isn't what I wanted!!!CP2077 isn't about fighting corps, it's about a retard biting off way more than they can chew and then realizing too late that they landed in a hell of their own making. Johnny, Evelyn, and Songbird are all characters that are on different parts of that same journey, like ghosts of christmas past, present, and future.
>>719167414I love Slider, hard to explain but the whole literal computer voodoo magic larp is so based.
>>719174159I'll never understand this complaint.People crying over no objectively happy ending.I'm not saying every story needs to end badly for the protagonist, but neither does every ending have to be happy. Why can't people appreciate when things don't end perfectly for everyone? Its still a good story.
>>719175093Blaze of glory is a perfectly valid answer, and what the Sun ending is about.Though Star is better since V will get healed according an actual seer who is never wrong
>>719170232Of course the whole point of V and cyberpunk is that he has bought into the false promise of Night City. The whole "the light that burns twice as bright burns half as long" motto. There's a reason the most happy endings involve leaving this cursed city.
In most games I have trouble deciding who to side with because I like both of them. In this game I have trouble deciding who to side with because everybody fucking sucks.Voodoo Boys v NetWatch? They're both evil cunts.Reed v Song? I don't trust either of them, both are lying to you and using you.I swear 99% of the characters in this game are just insufferable assholes.
>>719169119One of the most common complaints about GTA San Andreas is that Carl moves up in the criminal hierarchy, but then lowers himself back down to hood shenanigans because Sweet gives him shit over it. People aren't even mad Carl is still a criminal. Everyone gets mad he chooses to be petty and lowers himself for his brother who does not want to move on.For V, the Arasaka ending is alright. He's going to die, but he spends his last six months with his admittedly largely shitty friends. The Panam ending likely has you fighting with Panam for six months and then dying frustrated and angry - the game doesn't show it but she probably breaks up with you when your health gets bad because Panam is not a kind nor empathetic person.The more annoying ending is the Phantom Liberty ending where V decides he NEEDS to return to Night City but produces no real justification for it. Victor and Misty are solid friends, but V is lucky he catches Misty just before she moves to Poland. Victor can't hardly find the time to talk. V does not need to go back and doesn't benefit from going back, so it's frustrating when he bellows at Reed that he has to.
>>719076773that media guy, corpo just murdered your girlfriend in some transcendence experiment im still filming by the way lolhe deserved to get punched almost to death.
>>719175152Because they wrote the ending, it's as good as it gets, and then they just have V have a meltie like child. It's rough enough with everyone V knew having moved on with their lives, you'd think after the course of the game V would have matured enough to recognize that chasing the glory of being a merc isn't all it's made up to be, especially after konpeki plaza. nusa ending isn't "happy" it's just good.>719175580>Blaze of glory is a perfectly validWhich is why the game constantly shows you characters either trying to chicken they way out of the blaze of glory once its time arrives, or massively regret it and want to back out right before the blaze takes them. >719168097this guy gets it
>V is supposed to be 23 in 2077Huh.I guess it makes sense how he/she would act so carelessly at times, but 23 seems like a stretch.
>>719176404Neither VA sounds that young and the character models look late twenties, early thirties.
So, do you think they will continue with V in Cyberpunk Chicago. Every ending really has a way for V to survive or at least save his/her mind, especially when Relic is a thing.
>>719176608i hope not, should be a new protag for a new city
>>719176608Nah. While there are routes for making V return. V’s fate is ultimately sealed and finite. A sequel would more likely feature a new character exploring the cyberpunk world of Chicago, possibly with occasional references to V’s legacy.
>>719176608Relic is a scam. If you send Jackie's body to Vic and later side with Arasaka, you find out there's a Relic of Jackie and he's basically just catchphrases, recnt memories, and stuff. There's not a real person stored in those chips.The Relic Subaro and Silverhand use are unique and highly guarded prototypes, and V isn't given one. In fact, he asks about it in the Arasaka ending and they lie to V about needing a medically compatible donor - which makes no sense given that Johnny was replacing your mind and has no genetic link to V.
>>719175764V is like a home abuse victim, he can't stand it but can't live without it. Truly and lost retarded soul.
>>719076773Didn't the Scavengers literally make torture porn?
>>719091690V doesn't have to worry about it for too long anyway.
>>719093987>It's bound to cntrl or alt or something. Fucking insane key mapping, you cannot rapidly reach it and WASD at the same time without hurting yourself.Tiny unflexable hands are a you problem anon. I can reach WASD and both CTRL and ALT all at the same time with my left hand.
>>719172436You do get to watch Alex do it though.
>>719176404originally intended to be 28, they changed the age with phantom liberty for some reason.
FaridaI just want to have a conversation (and more) but she just tells me to shut up :(
>>719176939I guess Jackie is fucked because he died before getting scanned, so the engram is fucked also.
>>719178234Because she's smart, she has an idea of the kind of shit you're involved in and doesn't want it to comeback on her. Best way to do that is to just install your cyberware, not ask any questions, and then get you out of her clinic as fast as she can.
>>719174881Well yeah, but at the very end you have that choice of handing her over to Reed, so with that final lie revealed, you can decide once and for all to stop helping her. The choice to put her on the rocket is one you make out of empathy, fully aware of the lies and manipulation. Not because you were tricked.
>>719098540He's abrasive as fuck and wrong to try and sign up with a corp, but Panam acts like a fucking idiot in that entire questline.Honestly Judy does as well in her own. Both female romances are morons. River is just boring as shit and Kerry is a old man having a delayed mid life crisis.
>>719089967Just because she has a decent reason for lying and manipulating you doesn't mean you have to like it.I still let her go in the end, because I didn't trust the NUSA (Reed is cool but he's a tool and everyone knows it, didn't trust him to sway shit to help me) and I'm glad I did because I think the Tower ending is trash.
>>719127941I wouldn't go that far, they only agree with her when Saul is seriously planning on making the deal with the corp. Everyone prior thinks she's being reckless and an idiot, and then when that happens they all get on board with stealing the APC.>>719128124>Go into illegal death racing where you have someone riding shotgun who's entire job is shooting at other racers>Husband gets killed in it>Sperg out at him
Easily the most based fixer in the game
>there are retards itt that took the oath
>>719176939they explain that anon, the Relic is just a copy of your brain, your feelings, memories, personality etc using real AI (not our World ai slop) to keep you "alive", but the Relic doesn't contain the Soul/Conscience like in Altered Carbon So Johnny died in 2023 Nuking, Saburo choked by his own son etc
>>719106164>require you to do stealth runssimple false, its optional
>>719076773Myers
>>719179703That haircut is criminal.
>>719179703Think you got a gift, anon.
>>719178946Why is it wrong to try to sign up with a corp exactly?
>>719181072>no option to murder this corpo-whorenot a real RPG game
>>719091690So you're saying she's realistic
>"Ah de doll! De whore."So anyway, I started slaughtering Voodoo Boys on sight
>>719169413she can take all my casino chips
>>719181671Because corps fuck you in the ass at every opportunity.Its short term gain in exchange for an inevitable betrayal.Its especially bad for a Nomad clan, because signing with a corp necessarily means you're not nomads anymore. You have to settle down and take the corps' dick. The thing being a Nomad is supposed to prevent above all else.Everyone in 2077 knows that being on a corps payroll is a bad thing. Even the dudes on that payroll. The security chumps will end up getting shot for nothing or at best paid like shit, treated like shit and be on the hook for every piece of equipment they use. Listen to the news some time, there's a story they run where they're rating which corp is the best to work for, and Arasaka comes in first because they have 2 days of vacation.
>>719182408>Arasaka comes in first because they have 2 days of vacation.They also got the cool black and red style going on so definitely first.
>>719182408Arasaka is the "best" because they you give very good cyberware for "free", you only need to be their slave and suck their cock for 20 years, also>80 hours work per weeki bet there are going to be a lot of bootlickers who will defend 14-16 hours a day of work in the future
>>719182581Ah sorry, I misremembered. Biotechnica and it was 6 days.
>>719182035>"Ah de doll! De whore."Which part of this wasn't true?
>>719180250I took the oath and made everything to fuck NUSA up
>>719182035dayumn
>>719175802>Voodoo Boys v NetWatch? They're both evil cunts.Voodoo boys want the world to turn into a mad max hellhole and thinks they can curry favour with the AI, despite the AI having no obligation help them in any wayThey're both evil cunts, but the VDBs are beyond the pale of almost every other gang in the game
>>719183770It's not about truth. It's about contempt.
>>719175802Simple, kill netwatch dude.Go through voodoo boys plan, proceed to kill them after you leave the ice tub.
>>719182035If it's a voodoo, it gets shot like a dodoo
>>719182408Nomads have doing work for corps since like the 2000s in cyberpunk lore
>>719076904Nah, that Del just wishes he was a bumper car. The one with the Gladys voice that leads you into an ambush is the real asshole Del.
>>719175802>Voodoo Boys v NetWatch? They're both evil cunts.The Voodoo Boys have the added bonus of being absolutely buttfuck retarded. I side with NetWatch guy purely because I like seeing Alt turn the VDB's into cooked hams.>Reed v Song? I don't trust either of them, both are lying to you and using you.The game frames it as siding with Reed or Songbird but it's really NUSA vs Songbird. They're both scummy, so in my opinion the only real "good" option is siding with Reed at the hotel then killing Songbird in the bunker. Fewer people die in general, the walking Blackwall WMD is taken out, and gigabitch Myers doesn't get her precious toy back. Reed loses the only two people he has left (both of which are V's fault, not his), but he can quasi-retire and get fat behind a comfortable desk, and because you don't get cured, he doesn't have to feel any guilt (he's very clearly upset about something after you thank him) about what they really did to you in those two years you were """asleep""".
>>719189252I mean it's possible Reed says "don't thank me" because surviving without implants in that world s like trying to survive without eyeballs. You can, but you'd need a lot of help, and since everything is corporation there's no support for any demo that's not mainstream. It's also possible he knew you were promised two weeks and a cure-all, and instead got two years and a permanent disability. If the NUSA really wanted to kill you, they would. In fact, the NUSA puts in more effort than most organizations to actually save your life, however imperfectly.
>>719076773CDPR, for thinking that cyberpunk, as a genre, means "no good ending". People constantly applies that nihilist shit to cyberpunk because it tells stories of a bleak world/society.The main themes of cyberpunk stories are 1) the discovery of the "self" (Kusanagi in GitS for instance or K in Blade Runner) 2) the "punk" aspect which means a rebellion against an oppressive system (Neo in Matrix).A cyberpunk story does not have to end in a bleak, miserable way. Even the death of a protagonist can be seen as a ray of hope in an oppressive world or society. People think that cyberpunk = grim dark, and it pisses me off.
>>719089967She did everything wrong. That's why she's in such a mess.>messed with the Blackwall which put her on NW's radar>kept doing it for Myers for years, irreversibly fucking herself in the process>never tried to escape until it was too late >trusted an enemy warlord and got herself captured >committed high treason >betrayed and killed reedand that's on top of manipulating V
>>719179703I completely ignored most fixers the first time I played, especially this guy, but the few moments you get with him are pretty good. Shame that some of the fixer quests really feel like filler, but on occasion there is a pretty decent one.
>>719090060t. faded away
Does Reed even lie to you?
>>719195546Rogue tells you you're still a legend. The legend only fades if you haunt the place like a hopeless, lost puppy. What exactly do you think you can do to maintain your legend after you die from Relic cancer? It's the same outcome.
>>719091845Is Blackhand dead? I thought he was being saved for tabletop stuff if not a sequel.
>>719195620No, but Johnny tells you he's a bad, lying, government man, and some people don't understand Johnny is himself a manipulative liar who actually would not take a bullet for you if you were in the trenches together. For fuck's sake, Johnny even confesses he was a deserter from his unit, but tries to blame higher powers for it and conveniently avoids what that may have meant to the other guys depending on him.
>>719089967>Lying to a professional mercenary who you are paying to help you.Death for the crime of being a retard, V kills people for money, they would've said yes without being strung along for a cure to their brainrot.
>>719195856Supposedly he is alive and lying low.Either way, Johnny's memories make no sense. He dies twice in the tower. In his second death, you see Rogue's helicopter going into a spin, and yet she's still alive. It's not even clear if Johnny went to save Alt. I think Hellman talks about how the engram itself has been adulterated and the Johnny you know isn't at all the real one. It's why Johnny's memories don't line up, and why he can sell himself as a heroic figure while also having a past demonstrating he'd never be able to work with people well enough to conduct a plan.Everyone who has deeper knowledge of Johnny tends to be dismissive of him, and even Rogue is weird about it.
>>719193860Cool story, bro
>>719195034His friend treats you like shit for even thinking of saving his life, and Cap blames you for getting the medical equipment damagedFuck'em
>>719105853The the cyberpunk version of Jews.
>>719196106Mercs choose their gigs based on risk/reward. V is the only merc desperate enough to do such a job.
>>719196497I think the story with that is his friend is dying from the medical issues cap tells you the water caused, so his friend is pissed because he was already prepared to die and doesn't like that you saving him killed dozens of kids inadvertently. Cap gives you some shit about it, but not too much, because he didn't specify that the meds were a higher priority than the crew bagging them.
Evelyn, she owed me sex
>>719076773Me. Because I slaughtered thousands night city citizens and few hundreds police officers. Adding guns to the cars was a huge mistake
>>719176939Jackie was Soulkiller'd as a corpse, the fact they got anything from him is honestly impressive
>>719193860“punk” as a genre contextually means abrassive hard livingyou’re also a retard if you think 2077 game somehow does not have any redeeming factor to its endings. in 90% of them your actions lead to everyone arasaka soul-killed being freed and the project to use the relic to make Saburo and the rich immortal is destroyed along with much of the corporation’s operations world wide being irreparably sabotaged by Yorinobu.
>>719196237Doesn't Johnny technically die 3 times in the tower?First time when Smasher storms in after Johnny has uploaded the virus to the Arasaka subnet, and the explosion knocks Johnny off the balcony. He has Smasher standing over him and he's also surrounded by Arasaka grunts. There's no logical way Johnny would have been able to get out of that room and up to the helipad.Second time on the helipad where Smasher just straight up shoots Johnny in the head with the projectile launcher.Third time where Johnny has the brief conversation with Saburo and then gets soulkilled. Johnny's memories are all over the fucking place.
>>719197258The Supreme Court firmly disagrees. It is your right as a citizen to strap an HMG or even guided rockets to the hood of your Caliburn. Militech's profits go directly towards supporting your freedom!
>>719197736I guess it would be three deaths. If you're looking for inconsistencies, you start to notice a bunch of them in his memory sequences. There's also the weird scene when he hires rogue. He smashes a guy with a bottle, and then when he gets up there's a dead Arasaka goon just standing in the doorway with no explanation who killed him or when. Johnny just remembers there were three guys and all three died, so it's what you're shown, even if it makes no sense when you're living it.
>>719197775Thank you anon . I'm going to take my coyote for a ride. Don't go near arasaka plaza today, you are good
why are there a million fucking buttons in this game and rebinding them doesn't do anything
>>719076773People who claim it's good.
>>719196237How the tower raid actually went down is Johnny died at the first Smasher encounter in that zen garden. He stood up, fired at Smasher a couple times, and Smasher bisected him with a machine gun. Spider Murphy 'saves' Johnny by soulkilling him. The rest of the memory is just Johnny embellishing his memories like he does all his memories. In reality Smasher doesn't care too much about Johnny beyond his cool car and gun and is baffled that Johnny is the name he hears before he dies
>>719199320Oh and obviously Saburo never met him face to face. That's probably how Johnny imagined he'd go down, sticking it to the old man right in front of him
>>719199320At the end of the tower run Johnny tries to jump into Rogue’s AV only for her to drop him.When you do the 2077 tower run with Rogue a similar thing occurs only for Rogue to pull you back aboard and say “not this time.”That is clearly something that actually happened
>>719170054This all made sense in the base game, but then in phantom liberty you do a gig in dogtown for Hands where you run into another netwatch agent (an actual netwatch agent, he has tags and orders on his laptop if you kill him or hack it) and if you mention Bryce to him, he knows and acknowledges that you met. If you let tue netwatch guy live so he can carry on the mission he was undercover for, he later sends you some eddies and says that he got the guy he was looking for because you let him live.
