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>>719207520
Rita fucks.
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>>719207520
why does Arise so poopy stinky forgettable?
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>>719207520
Tales of JC
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god damn this game doesn't fuck around
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>>719209675
No way the gonna keep this on the remaster. High chance they remove the dead child and the blood or suffer the CERO Z rating
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>>719210397
CERO is not as bad as you're making them out to be.
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>>719207624
>Rita fucks
Repede
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>>719212060
Current CERO are cucked to death anon
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I heard Graces Remastered hardly has any of the bonus content, I'm probably better off emulating it.
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>>719212353
Where the hell is her tits
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>>719212238
Virtually all of what retards attribute to CERO nowadays is actually the fault of either platform content policies or internal "ethics" committees responsible for companies self-censoring their games. Pantyshots didn't disappear because of CERO, they started disappearing because of the pressure from platforms and "global standards"/DEI policies. While they are known to give higher ratings for gore, something like that pic is likely too basic to trigger it, let alone push it to Z.
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>>719212432
Right in my hands
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Reminder Patty is only one year younger than Rita
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>>719209675
Damn I don't remember this at all. Surprised they got this though but had to censor the opening to Berseria.
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Tales
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>Rita is same age as Marin Kitagawa
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For me, it's Anise
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>>719213759
Rinwell is also just really really tall.
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>>719212060
current cero removed the pipe from the gag moustache attachment. This shit is going to be cooked.
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>>719212353
I'm pretty sure the localized version has all the content the PS3 release had, plus some bonus skits that were never localized. If you're talking about shit like the Code Geass and Vocaloid outfits, we never had them in the first place.
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>>719214830
This is what american food does to human growth
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>>719215485
Yeah, it'd give me an excuse to practice Japanese.
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>>719215052
Right on the page where it's shown it says "in light of ethics" and "WW (worldwide) correspondence)". Does this not sound familiar to you by now? Bamco is balls deep in DEI shit and has self-censored their own games before. This isn't even likely the only change. Stop blaming CERO for the shitty actions of the companies themselves.
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>>719215657
Play the Wii version so you have exclusive content that never made it to any other release and can practice your moonspeak.
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>>719207520
sopher
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TALES OF ALIVE
TALES OF FOREVER
TALES OF XILLIA 2 ONLY A FEW MONTHS AFTER XILLIA 1 I PROMISE
TALES OF NOT ANOTHER 8 MONTH WAIT FOR XILLIA 2 OR I'LL FINALLY DO IT THIS TIME
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>>719215732
I did play the Wii version actually, when it was the only version.
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Any of you fellas or fellettes know how to get my save data working on RPCS3? I transferred it from my ps3 and downloaded the DLC .pkg but I can't load it, it loads into a black screen test area. I don't wanna start the game from scratch again if the remaster is coming sometime next year. I just wanna make some combo videos.
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>>719207520
doesn't matter, I got Symphonia, Abyss, Xillia 1, Vesperia, Hearts R, both Destiny games and the Tales of the World games out of the series, so it's given me enough and can die in peace at this point
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Tales of Teens
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>>719218161
Tales of Preteens
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Fuck off l*licons this is a fujo series.
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>>719212157
Hot
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>kills the tales ip
>lets china buy the blue protocol license and now it's going to be successful under China
i hate shitco like you wouldn't believe
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>>719207520
from left to right
>fuck, marry, kiss
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>>719207520
from left to right
>Blowjob, Anal, Vaginal
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>>719219601
But Edna just begs for it.
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>>719219446
They really only want to work on all the super popular stuff and let everything else rot.
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I just want a proper release of ToD DC
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>>719221181
After Xillia 2 and Abyss, trust the plan.
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>>719221181
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>>719216229
Sorry brother, it's been too long. I remember doing something to get my saves from PS3 working and get the region-free DLC working, but it was so many years ago now that I forgot everything.
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>>719221181
Soon.
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>>719221882
Tales games have looked ugly for years
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>>719221882
I don't understand how we never got an official feature to play as cameo characters.
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>>719221968
Arise is one of the most beautiful looking anime games I've ever seen.
If they just fix the characters and combat and kept this visual style I'd be very happy.
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No, it isn't. Next one will also sell 3+ million.
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Dancing with Rita.
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>>719220975
1 dick is not enough for her
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>>719207520
kuudere, deredere,tsundere
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>>719212060
Debuff spamers like you that try to lower def need to be purged
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>>719222986
Edna is kuudere
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>>719222986
Slut, slut, secret slut
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>>719207520
>Tales is dead
Why?, isn't ufotable + something = huge success
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>>719223824
Gacha
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Edna
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>>719207520
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>>719222156
Arise looks fine, they should'vr just recycled the combat of Hearts R or Xillia 2 for it instead of implementing half-baked bosses and mechanics on it
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>>719221882
Crestoria models should be easy to mod into this game, probably.
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Yuri is the most overrated Tales of protagonist ever.
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>>719207520
>Tales is dead while Trails currently thrives
Is this the good or bad timeline?
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>>719227797
That says more about how boring and goody two shoes most protags are than Yuri himself. Luke, Yuri and Velvet are leagues above the rest.
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>>719228409
Trails barely sells 5 digits anon, whole series sold 7.5~8 million worldwide. Symphonia, Vesperia and Arise surpass that number.
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>>719228409
Trails isn't thriving any more than a roach thrives from you forgetting to clean out the crumb tray of your toaster every day. Falcom's games are dirt cheap to make, they probably only need to sell like 150k copies to break even.
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MILLA IS THE BEST TALES
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>>719228796
>they probably only need to sell like 150k copies to break even.
It's probably closer to 40-50k copies and they recoup the rest with DLC sales. Trails is incredibly niche, only nerdy black guys and a New Zealand grandma know about it.
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>>719221318
sex with Magilou
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Games since Cold Steel III feels more expensive than Xillia~Berseria. Not a huge bar, but.
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>>719229647
>Games since Cold Steel III feels more expensive than Xillia~Berseria.
And Arise is more high budget than all the Trails games put together. Heck, probably Vesperia too.
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>>719228618
>Velvet
>good
Isn’t she nothing but an edgy, mcedge-edge Shadow-tier type of protagonist?
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>>719230079
Vesperia doesn't even have mocap, so I doubt. But content-wise, it's more complete than any Trails ever, yeah.
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>>719230380
And the rest of the protags are goody two shoes, power of friendship bumpkins recycled straight out of Cless and Stahn, so yeah, she is better.
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>>719230565
>And the rest of the protags are goody two shoes, power of friendship bumpkins recycled straight out of Cless and Stahn, so yeah, she is better.
Luke and Yuri are still the best and the standard all Tales protagonists should be measured by, not Velvet.
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>>719230380
No, she's a shotafag
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>>719227797
Yeah but he's the most fun so there's a reason he's popular. I feel like the list of shit Yuri does throughout his game makes him inherently more entertaining than the other protagonists. I don't think it's particularly deep, it's just the fact that he rarely plays into traditional anime tropes that makes him stick out so much.
>Wow this guy's a fucking mustache twirling villain
>I'll just assassinate him and then go to bed
It honestly makes me want to make a quick run down of every crazy thing he does in the game.
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>>719228409
>>719228796
Abyss and Symphonia both have better and more unique stories than any Trails game anyways.

Abyss in particular also has better developed characters than any Trails.

I remember playing SC and cringed so hard how they tried but failed to connect each Ouroboros Enforcer with a party member, just felt like a poor man’s version of what Abyss already did with it’s party and God Generals.

Funny enough I discovered both SC and Abyss came out in the same year too, 2006.

Abyss did it better.
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>>719207520
they should make a new game

they should make a new game every year, like they used to
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>>719221318
why did the dragon explode
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>>719231238
>Muh abyss
Kill yourself
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>>719231572
He’s right after Abyss doing parallel villains connections with your party better than Trails though.
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>>719207520
>Dead
>Arise is one of the best recent jrpgs and most successful tales of
>after a 13 year wait the last console exclusive is ported

no offence guys but tales of fans (those 7-8 terminally online lolicon neckbeards) are lowkey retarded and irrelevant
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Every Tales threads moves it higher on my backlog. I do have Vesperia on my Switch, but I can also try Zestiria or Arise.
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>>719207520
My goth loli wife Symonne is the best tales
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Old tales might be good but jesus christ, arise is just too shit that even Kuro no kiseki(which is also shit) is better.
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>>719222156
2bad it's a bad game
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>>719222156
I beat the main game plus extra dungeon and cameo bosses

But the DLC man... I couldn't even last an hour before I had to turn it off and never felt like booting it up again
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Berubetto
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>>719233695
It's dead because there isn't much interest or discussion here, not even Arise gets a lot of good said about it. Just Xillia alone after such a long wait rubs people the wrong way too.
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I mean its cool Xillia is coming and all but they made the reveal process for a port so overly convoluted
Could have just side lined it at tales of festival and say we have other big stuff coming too stay tuned
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>>719216229
The save has to be decrypted. There's a PS3 app that can do it for you called Apollo Save Tool, it works on RPCS3.
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I cant believe they are remaking tales of the abyss with new quest new bosses new dungeons and even 2 new playable character (including Ion and his clone Florian), also more developpement about the original Ion and his hartred and cooperation with van to destroy the score, i cant wait, they are adding so much more.
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Dead series
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>>719227797

He was pretty great as a protagonist. Very refreshing for a JRPG of his generation. His entire character arc of stooping lower and lower, killing the clearly very evil to defend the good no matter what and making zero apologies for it was fantastic.

He did exactly what your average JRPG protagonist SHOULD do. Slay evil immediately and go on a big fun adventure with your friends.
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>>719239537
>2 new playable character
I'd rather have the new characters from the Triverse Gate
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>>719233695
>lowkey
Ayo fr ong?
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>Xillia remaster announced
>It's only 1, not 2
>Only announced feature is censorship
What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>719240884
Not true you have grade shop from the start a sprint feature and option to turn off enemy encounters
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>>719240884
If Xillia 1 already censored, be prepared for Xillia 2 because they gonna censor that game to oblivion
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>>719207520
as it should be.
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>>719207520
Haven't really thought about it but yeah.

>Recent remastered games were already HD.
>Big time gap between Arise and Berseria.
>Xillia 2 was also a recycled sequel to save development costs.
>Graces and Vesperia (Like 15 years ago) being the last mainline console experience with single entries (but with enhanced ports ofc)
>Abyss is forgotten
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>>719241408
>Xillia 2 was also a recycled sequel to save development costs.
Why didn't they do the same with Arise
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Tales of OTP
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Why don't more of the games have romance routes?
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anal with lolis
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>>719207520
>Tales is dead
but is the body hot or cold?
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>>719245530
It's hot. Really hot.
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>>719242937
Hard to do right. If there's not enough effort put into it, the romance route is just kind of there with zero impact on the narrative, at which point you may as well as not have it at all because you'll get shit for half-assing it.
If there's too much put into it, it detracts from the plot and you may end up with "pair the spares" and shit like that just to have romances everywhere, and then it's an active detriment to the entire game.
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>>719207520
I can't keep playing Arise. I fucking hate this game. I just got to the part where the second intro starts. Apparently I just finished the good part? I hate these damage sponge bosses that can't be staggered. I hate this one dimensional cartoon character villains. I hate how you need to do sidequests to get any skill points. Alphen and Kisara are carrying this dogwater cast so hard. This dodge roll heavy combat isn't Tales. It feels like I'm playing an anime Souls game.
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>>719207520
Good!
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>>719242458
He’s 7…
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>>719245787
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am i enjoying arise? i keep looking at my phone during cutscenes
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>>719233695
And yet they kept the series alive for 16 mainline games before + a bunch of remakes and spin-offs, while Arise tourist garbageb tourists brought nothing in 5 years and didn't even buy the DLC of their own game...curious.
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>>719230804
Sorry, you don't make the rules here. Luke, Yuri AND Velvet are the best Tales protags.
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someone tell me how to play and enjoy the combat in arise. I'm just letting random moves. i can't be fucked learning the best abilities. I'm using rinwell currently.
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>>719222156
Looks like unreal engine slop though
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>>719250746
As a protag I like Lloyd a lot more.
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>>719250767
That's the funny thing, you don't. Arise is made for people that never cared about Tales in 30 years. 25 years on its release.
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>>719207520
Tales of where they are all undeads?
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>>719251679
She looks fat in the thumbnail
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>>719253602
she is fat
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>>719241408
>>Recent remastered games were already HD.
>games were already HD.
Maybe by 2006's or 2007's standards.
The latest remasters were all PS3 games stuck in PS jail.
It's a good thing they're getting a bump in resolution and framerate, and more importantly ports to other platforms (but most importantly PC because PS3 emulation sucks compared to having native builds.)
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Anyway this thread is hot trash.
Nothing but shitposting.
I'm out. Hopefully the next one will be better.
Peace.
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>>719254634
She is flat
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>>719257198
She is fat
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I liked the first half of arise, I disliked the second half, I think our next mc should be velvet 2 but with more trauma and eventually more pent up aggression and the cast is a mix of people that just really dont get a long
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lardna...
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>>719257340
>velvet 2 but with more trauma and eventually more pent up aggression
can we just get the alt universe velvet from that gatcha
though honestly its quite nice how velvet stabilised towards the end of the game i do feel like they went for edgy but didnt pull it off
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I'm starting Tales of Arise. This better be either the best thing ever or the worst.
The opening was not my thing.
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>>719230565
>>719230804
>>719250746
Lloyd is the shounen protagonist done properly.
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>>719248732
Can't believe Tear is a pedophile...
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>>719257198
>>719251679
Edna made Zesty worth playing on her own. Teasing sexy little number, she is.
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>>719259004
I'm a big fan of Lloyd. I don't care for much of Symphonia's cast, but Lloyd's definitely cool and pretty likeable for a protagonist. Him and Zelos are the only characters I really liked from that game.
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>>719259316
That whole cast is excellent i think you need to play it again
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Eizen would not be cool with you lewding his sister
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>>719259479
>genis
>excellent
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>>719259316
>>719259479
I like the whole cast, too. The weakest member was definitely Genis, and he is at worst just a little annoying while still being a good foil to Lloyd.

What I like about Lloyd is that he's aware of hypocrisy and tries to stick with an objective morality. Good is good, bad is bad. It makes sense for a based retard like him.
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>>719259739
What about larding his sister?
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>>719259776
>>719259794
i like genis he's a cool little kid with strong morals
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Is it just my controller, or does the d-pad not work in Arise menus. It's very annoying.
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>>719251416
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can we have this artstyle back
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Tales of Abyss was the peak of this series.
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tales of zesteria
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>>719207520
Edna's thick thighs...
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>>719260402
Was rock bottom
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>>719260529
rock solid*
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>>719207520
Xillia remaster looks low effort
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>>719260847
all the remasters have been low effort
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>>719261315
Does she wear panties?
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>>719261940
No
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Sassy child.
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I'm trying to immerse myself in this story, but it's really hard to. The intro is dull, has droning music (which I guess is the point), and it's so silly how you still get the inn jingle when you sleep on the floor. Out of nowhere, this guy is the most acrobatic mother on the planet, everyone is punching armored guards with their bare fists. When you compare it to something like Symphonia, it's too fast with no tension.

The part that made me laugh is how they show the bad guy drinking from a glass and breaking it, and they don't give him lips or even animate the glass breaking. He in particular is baring his teeth the whole time, why did they do it like that? It's just comical
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>>719207520
yeah
but only because they aren't releasing as frequently
not because you queers are so bent out of shape about some title or another that you hate
Arise was based by the way
it made queers seethe and continues to make queers seethe
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>>719264250
What I don't get is why they went with that mask gimmick for the CM when he gets rid of it basically immediately
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>>719259794
>"No Mithos, you're wrong! You'll see, we'll change the world for the better! Racism bad!"
>"Things are just as bad if not worse by Phantasia"
Lloyd lost
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>>719263332
Built for BFMC
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>>719215657
You can get those dlc perfectly fine on the english release on emu.
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>>719251416
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>>719266396
Delicious chocolate
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>>719266098
Big fat money collector?
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>>719267520
Big Fon Master Cock
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>>719268812
My beloved mystic arte extension tool.
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Need more crossover games... that aren't gacha...
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dead series
dead thread
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>>719272528
dead anon *stabs you*
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>>719272715
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Ice coffee
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>>719272991
has berseria ever been decensored? ive seen one mod on nexus but that one alarmed virustotal like crazy.
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>>719273134
idk i imagine you could obtain a japanese version though
really its just that one scene in the prologue isn't it?
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>>719273281
The prologue scene and any flashback that refers to it. It might not be much for some but i like to immerse myself in games. What i experience is what actually happened. So censorship really kills it for me to the point i just wont play games. Might just play Zestiria again becaus le Etnafags convinced me.
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>>719273482
Ok but it's not the end of the world. You can tab out and watch the proper scene on youtube. Admittedly the censor replacement scene looks fucking dumb compared to the original.
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>>719273432
soko da, kurai itsuk-soko da kurai itsku-soko da, kurai itsu-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaieeeeeee
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>>719234695
I'm just glad she canonically has a massive unshaved bush
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>>719273432
I did really like symphonia 2
coincidentally marta is also the cutest tales girl
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>>719273658
>Ok but it's not the end of the world. You can tab out and watch the proper scene on youtube
How can you still type that when i explained to you exactly why that doesnt work for me?
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>>719275947
>I like immersion
>pauses to change character equipment
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>>719273482
i think just knowing its censored in the first place ruins it more than the censorship iteself
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>>719274420
It's fun if you ignore how bad it is. She and Alice are wasted on it.
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>>719278117
>>719273131
It's always the thaizuri pose
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>>719260361
How so?
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>>719214830
Rinwell a cute.
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>>719282650
I have her game in my library but I haven't started it yet...
I'll do so this weekend.
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>>719266375
Oh so you can activate it on emulator
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>>719245530
Bully the Angel
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>>719276963
In all fairness I can't remember the game too much but my girlfriend at the time loved watching me play it. Maybe that's why I hold it so special. She was my first girlfriend. My next girlfriend did look like Marta, or the closest I could find in my shit town.
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>>719282823
Get comfy and enjoy yourself.
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>>719283894
Coming from playing Symphonia a lot, Dotnw is unpolished and lacking content. The writing is really weak with the returning cast being flanderized or just plain mischaracterized, and there's lazy decisions like NOT Summon Spirits living in the shrines of the Summon Spirits. Hmm...
I've never seen anyone mention this but it always bothered me how the monsters didn't resemble Symphonia's monsters, I think they were reused models from Abyss or something.
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>>719251679
ANAL
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>>719261315
What Lora ??
AI still unable to draw her dress patterns and shoes properly but this one is decent
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Does anyone like Tales of Arise?
I feel like it's generally regarded as being worse than Zesteria these days.
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>>719286461
I liked the visuals, sound effects, character and enemy models, environments and exploration. Also the equipment system.

I didn't like the combat or characters at all. The combat was almost good with some decent ideas, but ruined it by dividing artes between ground and aerial, making aerial useless on bosses and minibosses, the main mechanic being a QTE instant-kill finisher that rewards you for chaining 3 artes together, and tries various other things to prevent the player from actually engaging with its mechanics. Then endgame and post-game just devolves into infernal torrent/incineration wave spam (forgot the final fire attack Alphen unlocks)

I genuinely think Zestiria's combat is better by virtue of having more variety.
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>>719286461
I am currently playing through it and I'm enjoying it so far, the combat feels fast and fluid during regular encounters but it can be a bit frustrating in boss fights desu. Also, this is probably me doing something wrong with Strategy but I run out of Cure Points very often.
I really like the visuals and the setting. I think they did a good job making the different cities you visit feel oppressive in their own way; one being flat out slavery, another one some kind of dictatorship, and so on.
I like most of the characters and how they interact with each other, except for Kisara who I think it a little boring but I don't actually dislike. I think Rinwell is super cute and I like Shionne being a textbook Tsundere.
The music is just OK for the most part, the only theme that REALLY stuck with me so far is the background music in Niez, which fits the place and sets the atmosphere perfectly.
I still haven't finished it but right now it's a solid 8/10 for me, with some specific parts going up to 9/10
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>>719287687
It'll plummet to a 1/10 by the time you reach the final dungeon
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>>719280020
Cute for 24 year old lady
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>>719286461
I only just started so I can't say. I don't hate the combat but I can see how it can fall apart in some situations, it's hard enough comboing short or small enemies. The fields and dungeons so far are WAY better than Zestiria, those cramped hallways were so annoying. However, I can't get invested in the story or characters. Maybe that will change when I meet more.

Sometimes with the plot, I'm wondering why they aren't asking basic questions. But other times, they're asking too many. I just had a skit where Shionne goes "You realize you're praising the technology of the enemy?" to a guy with no memories that lived in a mine. She's the one showing it off in the first place. It feels forced just so they can have an anime moment where now they understand each other more, and look how quirky they are.
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>>719289427
How can they see her?
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>>719289892
They all have high magic affinity
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>>719207624
With dogs, yeah.
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>>719214830
Why doesn’t Sexwell have good porn?
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>>719290084
Bad game
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>>719227797
Yuri is a good character failed by the plot.

Him getting stabbed and the abrupt cut to the ending after the final boss are both copouts so that the game doesn't have to actually confront what he did.
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>>719289427
should be darker
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>>719284842
I don't remember any heavy flanderization other than the overuse of the pit gag with Sheena.
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>>719212990
Isn’t she actually an old hag who got age regressed and mind fucked.
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HURURU
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>>719289892
God Zestiria plot is so fucking dumb. Seraph being invisible is dumb. Are they visible on the end of the game or what ? I forgot
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>>719291828
They're still invisible, but Sorey's slowly increasing everyone's ability to see them. It's why Rose can make Alisha a Squire again but not suffer the blindness Sorey had.
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bump
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>>719284598
Sex with Judith.
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based
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Evil women
Stop liking them
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>>719296440
More like Dead woman (In and Out character) lmao
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>>719291721
The best of both worlds unironically
Yuri is a lucky man
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>>719286171
NovelAi
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>>719299214
>Subscribtion
Fuck that
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>>719299214
Tried it. Its fast but i still think CivitAI is better
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>>719219446
Namco only cares about Tekken and Dark Souls. That's it.
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>>719299850
>>719300682

It just works
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>>719300682
>civitai
lmao
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>>719300854
Yeah it just works but its not enough
>>719300885
Whats wrong with CivitAI ?
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>>719300854
I wonder if its possible to rip their model or Lora
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>>719292536
Actually, it's because Rose is a bland Mary Sue.
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Tales of Hebephillia
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>>719290829
Yeah what ruins Yuri for me is how he never has to face the real consequences of his actions. It conveniently gets handwaved which stops just short of showing a true anti-hero.
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>>719305779
SEXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
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I mean, sure, having an antihero protagonist who doesn't care of everything and everyone is a nice change of pace, but still I don't like characters being such jerks almost all the time.
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>>719305779
peak adult
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>>719305779
Sexy child
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>>719207520
>Xillia getting a fucking port
>No Symphonia Remake
>Or Abyss
>Innocence fleshed out more in its sick ass WW1 setting

Fucking hell. Why Xillia?
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>>719311915
shes legal
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You can't even see Edna
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>>719313256
Im 40 something virgin
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They need another gacha so there's more official art and more fan art
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>>719313507
I'm pretty sure resonance doesn't work like that.
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>>719313256
>>719314352

in Rays shes a Clone
in Crestoria shes a human
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>>719207520
RITA STINKS
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>>719210397
>Ludger
Anon that's Xillia 2.
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>>719312161
Xillia is one of the most requested, it's popular and was one of the most locked down until now as it was PS3 exclusive. Even Abyss at least had a 3DS port.
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>>719313941
Sexy child
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>>719315820
She's stinky.
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>>719313941
AI slop
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i thought playing tales of vesperia with a fren would be boring but it is not
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>>719239537
>Original Ion
I would love that, his side story was creepy as fuck.
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>>719313256
Edna could be sticking her tight teenage* body in your face right now and you wouldn't even know it
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>>719289427
It's
>>719290373
Still
>>719291697
Up
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>>719317568
Yeah, my dick
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Death to Xillia Demastered
Deato to Scamco
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>>719259004
Lloyd is great, he is dumb most of the time but has some insights from time to time. The coffee scene remais one of the best.
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>can't have a Tales thread without pedos ruining it
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>>719320358
I'm sorry do people like Tales *gameplay*? Cause from what I saw the characters are the best thing the series offers.
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>>719320358
Tales without Pedos is no tales. Just look at Arise
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>Tales of Remasteria

Please Bamco, if you do remasters/remakes ... pick the Tales of we never got. Or the one who didn't aged well..
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>>719320358
*Saving it
How many Tales threads do we have
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>>719319320
It helps that his VA is really good. All the Symphonia cast had great VAs.
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>>719321019
Black
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>>719207520
never played any of these, which one is left girl from?
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>>719322243
Graces
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>>719320358
Who's gonna stop you from discussing hags
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>>719321258
That's why it's so bad that the dub doesn't have full voice acting, and the remasters such poor audio.
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Tales of Kids
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>>719320358
Something’s happening with this board because this keeps happening to every thread. Tales, Digimon, Mario, every gacha game, etc. They’ve even started spamming actual CSAP. What’s going on here?
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>>719325898
This isn't CP my dude. Nor is it new to Tales threads. The most surprising thing is that it didn't die at 30 posts.
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>>719325898
Go fucking back
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>>719320358
>>719325898
Texas politicians won't like this...
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>>719321423
I love teenagers
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>>719221539
Why did he marry that bitch?
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>>719329102
that's how women get you
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>>719301452

>but its not enough

How?
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>>719331768
Too basic
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>>719332439

Then change it
Powers in your hands
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>>719320358
Buddy look at the OP image. You are simply retarded, I'm afraid.
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>>719320358
Pedo website
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I think tales of parties should have bisexual group sex.
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>>719335608
As long as I'm the only male in the party
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>>719336000
I'm sorry to tell you this but (You) are not in any of the tales of games.
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>>719273432
Guy who made the original here

Holy shit it's so funny to see this is still going
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>>719323530
Magilou is the hag, though.
She even has "super granny" as a title option.
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>>719283684
need to breed colette
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>>719337123
Magilou is a walking corpse
Way too old to be a hag
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>>719337298
>zombie Magilou jumping out of her tomb in Zestiria with a loud MAGIKAZAM
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>>719218523
Still the best they ever had in this garbage franchise
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>>719321423
I'm starting to think, no underwear
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>>719337123
I want to scramble her eggs
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>>719287048
Arise would benefit a lot from some simple changes:
>Increase insta-kill threshold
>For one or two characters (Dohalim/Law...), add life-link kills like in the new Shinobi, which rewards you for getting a group of enemies to low health and then pulling the rug out
>Make the break bar visible
>Bring back rising CC, so battles have some pace to them
>Remove hitlag from super-attacks and make them more like tag-out moves
>Let the player juggle big enemies because fuck it
The end-game story is obviously irredeemable trash, so in the event of a remaster, it should all be replaced by a series of skits that tell the story as it was imagined, with battles in between.
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>>719340615
>nopan Rita
EAC (Easy Access Correction)
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Flat.
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>>719222156
Can you disable the vaseline filter
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>>719343426
she's still growing, baka!!
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>>719229095
I use her in my gimmick teams in another eden
Truly an op end of turn skill she has
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>>719344763
She's 15, breasts should pretty much developed by that point.
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>>719209675
I really wish Xillia 2 was a stand alone title and ditched the xillia cast.
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>>719274420
I had fun with it. I had been waiting for a long time for a character to play similar to judy with air combos
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>>719344923
She's late bloomer....
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>>719322545
thanks.
Maybe a dumb question but I can't find any mention of this in any review or description.
Can I switch character in battle or am I always stuck with the mc?
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>>719345283
Yes, Graces even has an item that lets you play without party members. A few of the games let you do that but I wish more of them did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z20_Jeq-cbc
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>>719345084
Nothing is wrong with small breasts though?
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>>719346084
Exactly, everything is right with small breasts
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>>719207520
Tales of CENSORSHIP.
lol. Woke ass shit.

I hope bamco goes out of business and close down.
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>>719346084
>>719346875
How will she breastfeed feed our kids then?
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>>719347303
Small breasts are perfectly functional.
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>>719347303
Life finds a way
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>>719347303
Normal breast size is FAT, milk is produced during pregnancy
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>>719347809
Get behind me, Satan
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They should remaster the handheld games first
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>>719351661
Not enough people played the Vita games. Can you even emulate those?
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>>719355663
god imagine beating magilou to death or clawing her to shreds
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>>719355663
What even holds her outfit up?
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>>719355964
imagine kissing her on the forehead and hugging her very tightly until she stops cracking jokes about it, it gets awkward, then eventually she melts into your embrace and realizes how starved for genuine affection she's been.
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>>719356137
I played Berseria because I wished I could fuck Magilou
By the end of the game, I wished I could hug her
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>>719215485
We DID have the Idolm@ster outfits though and those got cut from the remaster.
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>>719356137
imagine deleting magilou's reddit account
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>>719355448
Vita3k works with both
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Can't believe this hasn't died

>>719359817
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>>719355663
>>719356137
not fat enough
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>>719359972
It can't die until someone tells me how to make downloaded save files work on rpcs3 for xillia 2
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>>719359817
>>719359972
Ion was so lucky
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>>719359817
Slutty child feet
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Xilia and Graces have that BGM pack. it's 25 dollars. I don't know whether i feel ripped off considering most of the songs are the same.
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>>719361324
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>>719361427
They make it so easy to justify piracy.
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Tales of Hebephile
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>>719340615
Its already confirmed she wears black panties
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Anal
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>>719360072
That question has been answered in this thread.
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>>719365349
It hasn't. I already decrypted it.
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>>719207520
not having xillia 1 & 2 in a single pack was a dick move
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The final dungeons of Destiny DC fucking suck. What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>719365890
probably saving DotNW, Abyss, and Xilia 2 for the last batch of remasters. I doubt Berseria, Zesteria, and Arise would run on switch. Meanwhile, Tales of Legacy Collection when? actually do we even count the Vita titles as legacy since they are also 2D?
Phantasia x Narikiri Dungeon
Destiny DC and II
Eternia
Rebirth
Hearts

Tempest and Inoncence are low poly.
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>>719365825
You did something wrong then
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why did radiant mythology end? in fact they should make crestoria and luminaria on console.
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>>719366297
Because gacha did the same thing but you don't have to actually make it into a real game and waste manpower on something that doesn't sell
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what did Legendia do so bad to not ever seem the light of day again since it's release?
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>>719366132
Very useful, thank you.
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>>719366118
Not doing Xillia 2 right after 1 would be a huge fucking mistake.
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>>719366118
i just wanted to play xillia 2, i played the first one all the way on the ps3 era but never the second one

also what dick i have to suck to get White Knight Chronicles remake?
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the bottom row is just awkward
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>>719366731
Ludger was the last tales MC with soul (despite being a silent MC)
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>>719366731
console, gacha, console, console, gacha, gacha, console, gacha?
geez. there were four gacha titles over the decade after Xilia 2? Asteria? Rays? Crestoria? Luminaria? I know there was more, but it was a cardgame. I think we need more female MC's. Who's the lesser evil, SE or NB?
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>>719366731
I don't even recognize half of them.
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>>719366793
his daughter in the true ending reminds me of Sophie. Too bad the Graces F Remaster didn't give us Ludger's outfit considering some costume DLC were removed.
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>>719366971
they remove the idol ones?
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>tales of legendia is 20 years old.
>sword of legendia we will never know.
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>>719367809
Cute.
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>>719366118
I can't imagine anyone is excited for DotNW, it would probably be better if it just wasn't canon. But, it was still incredibly lazy that it wasn't included with Symphonia remastered.
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>>719367987
DotNW needs a full remake without restrictions. and don't kill of decus and alice
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>>719367987
i think most people that played it only did because it was a duo release
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>>719368054
Rewrite the entire story. Don't make Genis a stuttering retard, don't make Regal running around in rags, don't have Lloyd abandon his friends.
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>>719368054
i think datamines revealed they were supposed to be recruitable at one point
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I adore Abyss so much it's unreal. It baffles me that JRPGs peaked narratively 20 years ago.
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I hate that I have to cheat engine the random skills in Berseria if I want to get an actual build going
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>>719367987
i have certain nostalgia to it, mostly because i played on wii before the symphonia and i was an edgy teenager, but yeah it kinda trash and the whole pet system was meh
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I want to KISS Tear!
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>>719366793
I don't get people complaining about Ludger being silent in a first playthrough, to me it added to the game and still he was his own character and not just a player avatar. I feel it was a good idea and it added to the game.
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>>719368549
You only like it because it has an edgy plot and characters died left and right
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>>719368597
I'm still mad Yuria's cut outfit is locked to that fecking gacha game of all places I tried to download Rays' off of the fan Discord just to get pics of it alongside Cless' Battle Spear armor but for some reason it didn't work on my PC
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>>719368319
There's a ton of unused voice lines, like final boss dialogue when Emil and Marta aren't in the party, but also for mechanics like Overlimit that weren't implemented.
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>>719368606
She's mine, back off
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>>719368906
https://toraysscript.nfshost.com/viewer
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If I get Velvet pregnant would she mellow out?
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>>719368731
I honestly wouldn't describe Abyss as 'edgy' at all, if anything it's surprisingly earnest in its narrative and far less edgy than Xillia 2 or Berseria. As for characters dying, I mean... outside antagonists (God-Generals), how many characters do die? Ion? Frings, in a sidequest most people will not do in a first playthrough? Asch?
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>>719369019
Holy sex
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>>719369164
You canonly kill any humans you defeat
You commit a genocide
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>>719369019
Holy shit. Thanks, aceman, I knew about https://voeu.nfshost.com/crestoria but that's it.
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>>719369227
Based

>>719369360
Glad to help.
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>>719369126
Perhaps, but if you're not a blond shota she's not interested.
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>>719369337
>You canonically kill any humans you defeat
That's unbelievably fucking kino. The game isn't edgy about it, it's earnest. It honestly almost ruined other JRPGs for me. It treats its setting seriously, with mobs not as 'mobs' but as actual characters in the setting, and it asks the question "what if your Lv. 1 MC that's never left his "village" is tasked with killing another human being?" And by doing so, it builds up characters like Jade and Tear who have been soldiers their entire life and are used to it.
>You commit a genocide
That you do. Luke was entirely in the wrong in Akzeriuth, and he grows up after it, proving no one is beyond help as long as they yearn to change. He has to live on and deal with the fact 10k souls are gone because of him. His deed also cause other people like Jade to change alongside him (by being forced to face their own past demons). Fuck me I adore this game.
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>>719368708
Victor did nothing wrong. His suffering is unwarranted.
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>>719369897
>Finds out his dimension is fake and will be pruned
>Goes nuts and kills all his friends.
>Slaughters everyone from the prime dimension who comes after him.
I mean I get it but damn. Even killed Elize.
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>>719369019
We'll get this in the Abyss remake.
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>Tales of Grace still at 30$

when is this shit getting cheaper?
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>>719370030
>OP becomes the final boss theme
Kino...
https://youtu.be/yzjy09H47_w
https://youtu.be/YU4qT3yEPhc
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Magilou as a mom? Good or bad?
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>>719370343
Weird mage girls are my favorite.
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>>719370395
The Mayvin in Zestiria had to come from somewhere
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>>719370086
>Van has different intros depending on which character you have as party leader
Fcking SOVL...
https://youtu.be/fVlRvsnBdJg
https://lparchive.org/Tales-of-the-Abyss/Update%2080/
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>>719370178
What do you mean ? Its $0
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>>719370395
>>719370510
I mean, you do see her coffin in Zestiria...
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>>719370406
Zestiria may have a weak-ish main quest but fuck me if they didn't get the party and their banter just right
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>>719370178
Holiday season? I don't know. Definitely not worth that much.
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>>719370782
Belong in my mouth.
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>>719370728
>Zestiria
Vesperia* fuck me
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>>719370551
Vesperia did that too. Repede's is hilarious.
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>>719370917
Don't worry, I've already screencap'd it for future use.
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>>719371021
Big if true
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>>719317568
>>719290373
>>719291697

Took janny 24 hours to delete this lmao
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>>719370728
>>719370917
Still accurate.
https://youtu.be/BCKrdS8xh4s
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>>719370669
It's pretty funny how in Zestiria they say how the storytellers have no names of their own, but then in Berseria Magilou clearly does have a name.
I suppose it's possible she abandoned it at some point just like she abandoned her original name, but they probably just fucked up.
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>>719209675
>Black-colored blood
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>>719371368
For me, it's https://youtu.be/oyP76MFN4w4
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>>719371448
It's red, the Xillia games had an anti-seizure contrast filter.
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>>719371448
>anon is colour-blind
Many such cases
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>>719371734
>>719371698
PG13 game by the way
This will 1000000000000000% gonna get censored in the remaster
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>>719371794
Just put ketchup packets next to them.
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>>719371368
Alisha should have been a permanent member. It's still so retarded.
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>>719371916
If they remove the Cigar on the attachments they gonna censor this easily
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>>719371975
Nah she's fucking boring. Her attack animations were nice though.
Berseria fixed the Alisha mistake.
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>>719372064
Your mom is boring. But even more boring than that is Rose.
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>>719372151
Rose had an actual personality.
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Edna should be main character instead
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>>719372273
Namco, hire this man
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>>719372273
>an*l
ruined
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>>719368549
>>719368597
>>719368731
>>719369337
My problem with Abyss is that it tries to set Luke up as someone in need of redemption when he's a sheltered mentally stunted retard who got tricked. The party cuts him no slack for the reasons it happened and I don't buy his 'growth' from the guilt tripping.
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>>719372757
>Kids should be allowed to commit genocide
man shut the fuck up
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It just wouldn't be a Tales thread without someone rehashing the same Abyss argument again
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>>719372974
It's not about kids being able to commit genocide. It's whether tricking a kid into launching a nuke makes them fully culpable or not.
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>>719372064
Sex with Eleanor.
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The next Tales games should be all lolis
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>>719371682
Sex with Alisha.
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Left, middle or right?
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>>719373025
"Luke did nothing wrong at Akzeriuth" is just one of those things that may as well be a tales thread staple
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>>719343426
Deliciously flat
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Flatfags are basically pedos in disguise which doesn't work.
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>>719373208
And it's not about redemption either, Luke experienced something truly traumatizing that completely shattered his view of himself and the world. He was both literally and figuratively thrown into The Abyss and managed to crawl back out.

Instead of whining that everyone didn't comfort a petulant screaming manchild who refused to show even the slightest amount of human empathy after a great catastrophe, you should feel proud of him for maturing.
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>>719373208
There's an entire valley between "fully culpable" and "fingers in ears screaming IT'S NOT MY FAULT IT'S NOT MY FAULT IT'S NOT MY FAULT STOP BLAMING ME IT'S NOT MY FAULT"
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Me on the right
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>>719373537
That rings hollow when the rest of the party are all, barring maybe Tear and Ion if you count him, some flavour of hypocrite who hid information about the situation from Luke out of annoyance.

It's good that he learned to accept responsibility, but the way the game portrays it as some arrogant fall from grace deserving of punishment doesn't track for me. It also doesn't really help that he goes from one extreme of being self centered to having a massive guilt complex that everyone constantly reinforces.

>>719373553
Yeah how Luke acted afterwards was retarded. But again, at least two of the party know the guy is literally seven years old mentally and they all know that Van is basically his father figure and a trusted authority. They don't ever tell him why they hate Van until after it happens.

I understand what the writers were going for and I like the contrast of Asch and Luke about taking personal responsibility, but as it's written they come across as hypocritical pricks. Anise especially.
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>>719373360
All my friends hate m*ners.
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>>719373317
All 3 at once.
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>>719373674
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i really want to give Berseria another try but the combat is confusing and I don't know if I'm playing it "right".
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ITT anon who vehemently defends an asshole character for The Biggest Possible Fuckup aka GENOCIDE incapable of forgiving a handful of people for their mistakes such as:
>Not wanting to get involved
>Spying because your family is being held hostage
>Being loyal and supportive regardless of your genocide
>Being mildly irritated at you for wanting to leave a kid to slowly drown in mud
truly these characters are all hypocritical monsters
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>>719372665
>anal
based !
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>>719373927
>lmao this retard kid I raised and trusts me absolutely pushed a button I told him to push what an asshole right guys
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>>719233695
Arise is like Force Awakens. Sells great because it plays on the big name and overhype to zoomies, until everyone goes to watch and realize how rotten the IP has become and stops supporting it. Like it or not the neckbeard lolicons were the pillar supporting it, but good luck trying to maintain the IP after you spitted in their faces like this. Hags sell less than lolis and that's the inconvenient truth.
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>>719373878
It can take a bit to get used to. It's easier if you played Graces before since it's an evolution of that.
Souls are your CC. Lower souls = better chance to stun enemy. Stuns get you a soul back.
Break souls use your souls.
Too many souls = very low chance to get another soul, higher chance of you getting a status ailment.

The flow of combat is: get more than 3 souls, combo an enemy with elements (try not to hit their resistances), pop a break soul to continue your combo. End combo with mystic arte if you have the BG points.
Best way to get souls back is to have one string of artes that all have a stun effect.

Eizen is the best character to practice with, since Velvet can become invincible if you have even the slightest bit of competence in the battle system. Rokurou is the dedicated physical counter character. Eizen is the first one who has a good Break Soul which extends combos and does a fuckload of damage.
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>>719373761
AI still unable to draw eyes properly
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Playing through rebirth now
This game is so fun when it isn't bombarding me with shitty cutscenes, god the characters and story suck so far
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>>719374024
I need to kiss Edna's smug face.
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>>719374032
>This kid is more concerned with being completely blameless than the fact a whole lot of people are dead and dying all around him while we breathe in poisonous gas.
I wouldn't have been anywhere near as forgiving as his friends. I would have slam dunked that retard's head into the nearest rock.
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>>719372974
The average intelligence of an Abyssfag everyone.
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If you watch more Anime you realize Abyss storyline is generic shonen and nothing is special about it.
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>>719369678
>I adore this game.
Likewise. It has so much worldbuilding (a good chunk of it in artbooks and other JP only supplemental material) but it really goes beyond in order to explain Auldrant, fonons and even justifies game mechanics.
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>>719374405
You don't have to bait to keep the thread going man, it's been 3 days. That's really good for a popular board like /v/.
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>Fighting the third form of the final boss in Vesperia, new game hard
>Ran out of life bottles
>He's still got a decent amount of health
>Can't rely on Estelle's revive all the time because she'll probably die next
>Shit what the fuck do I do
>Wait
>Swap over to Rita
>Activate over limit
>meteor storm.mp4
>Win
Rita's ability to just tell every enemy in this game to go fuck themselves with a level one over limit is a really interesting way to design a game, but I'm not complaining.
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>>719374636
TOLL THE BEGINNING OF TIME
BIG BANG
TOLL THE BEGINNING OF TIME
BIG BANG
TOLL THE BEGINNING OF TIME
BIG BANG
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>>719374636
BLAH BLAH BLAH
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Graces anon who is at Final boss door here.
Cant believe its been 3 months since i launch the game lol. I almost forget everything about the combat. I need to wander around first to get used to the combat first.
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>>719374746
Enjoy, man.
Then you have the future arc to do!
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>>719372757
>The party cuts him no slack
The party cuts him slack for like 6~8 months where they're travelling together and he doesn't change
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>>719375034
Any point of beating this optional bosses ? Im really too lazy to do it and im only play at Moderate. Or are they available on Future arc ?? I also dont beat that massive turtle monster on the sand area yet.
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>>719374331
Then you're a retard. Luke had every reason to trust Van.

He acted shittily after it happened but, as is stated in game, the nigger is mentally 7. He literally had to learn how to walk. No shit he's going to have trouble accepting culpability in something like that.

Going from being a spoiled brat to having a massive guilt complex isn't a positive end point for a character. Does it make Luke nicer? Yes. Does he learn to take responsibility? Yes. Was he solely responsible in the way everyone treats him in game? God no.
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>>719373674
Velvet SEXO
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>>719374331
I adore Jade
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>>719375169
I've only just beaten the future arc and still can't beat them. I've got through half of the post-game dungeon and still can't beat them, they're level 200. Just leave those for the absolute last thing to do.
After you beat the future arc you're returned to outside the boss room of the base game.
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>>719375174
You must really relate to act 1 Luke. Unfortunately, you're incapable of growing up like he did.
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>>719375289
Guess ill just skipped it then. Dont have time for that shit
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>>719375402
No, in fact first time I rented the game Luke was such a cunt it put me off despite loving Symphonia and Phantasia.

I had to be told that he got better by a friend to see it through. I know you relate to Jade and avatarfag about being some suave badass, but you are retarded if you think a seven year old trusting his beloved mentor figure is equivalent to dropping a nuke. There is better ways to grow as a person than to shoulder a massive and unhealthy guilt complex that isn't actually warranted.
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>>719374489
>it really goes beyond in order to explain Auldrant, fonons and even justifies game mechanics
It easily has Tales' best world building and setting in the franchise
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>>719375565
If my seven year old expressed zero concern for the deaths of hundreds of people all around him, I would smack the shit out of him.
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>>719375762
I would try to get him to understand the suffering and gravity of it. But I wouldn't let it define his life from that point onwards, nor would I constantly berate him about it for the rest of said life.

I'd blame the guy who tricked him into pressing that button. And that's why Van is the one to blame, primarily. You don't blame the gun when somebody shoots somebody else.
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Is stacking up on field monster encounters not a thing in Xillia 2? Do I have to unlock it as an orb skill or something?
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>>719360140
>dies without being able to plunge his shota penis into her brown cunny
i don't think so. He's so close yet so far.
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>>719376096
I want to say it is, but I can't remember. I think the screen does the pre-battle crack thing twice, and you get a special notification at the beginning of battle that it's a stacked encounter, but I might be misremembering the whole thing.
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Death to Abysstards
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>>719374089
I see, I'll give it another go and see if it doesn't filter me again
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>>719376726
You sound mad
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>>719376726
based
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>>719376758
Hope you like it.
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>>719377983
ai slop
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>>719378510
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Someone please make better Koikatsu Tales cards.
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>>719378642
nah
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>>719378642
nah
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Elle is my daughter forever
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>>719378984
I love these two.
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>>719378984
wtf spoilers
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>>719379249
Hisui gets a rock wife.
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>>719378642
Edna Magilou Patty has already perfect Koikatsu cards
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>>719378984
nice blank expressions. god modern asian games are fucking GARBAGE
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>>719378984
She's a fake.
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>>719379524
shut up
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i feel like the Wii titles (dotnw and graces) were beta testing and felt rushed. why did graces only have that small landmass? DotNW I think wasn't meant to be a Tales game at one point. why the hell didn't the Wii get an Tales of Abyss or Legendia port?
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We did it
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not a single patty fleur. well tell me about edna.
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Xillia 2 never ever
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>>719379793
A good deal of Tales were like that. Beta test on one console, but release an updated version on Playstation later.
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>>719379793
Graces was a beta test on it's original wii version, I think they only agreed to it because they wanted to curry favor with nintendo fans and remember Xenoblade didn't even come out until a year later after graces, the wii had jack shit for JRPGs

The original graces was buggy as fuck. It's been well documented over the years
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>>719273432
I liked Legendia.
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symphonia is on sale
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>>719376758
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>>719381383
Besties!
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