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Drifterbros, we won.
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He walks like he shit himself lmao
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Victorbros, we lost.
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what are people voting on?
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>>719229497
You can't vote anymore.
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>>719228943
Does he have any good gay porn yet
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>>719229776
Yes, actually.
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>>719231389
Oh wow you weren't kidding
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>>719228943
out of the 5 characters released he feels really unfinished Tbhwyf
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>>719229243
He drinks blood so yeah that's bound to happen
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>get billy once and win
>I keep getting him
they weren't lying about that
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>>719231680
Things are looking up.
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>>719231761
How do you build Billy? Is he mainly melee focused?
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>>719231891
Yes, but also gets gun damage bonus on enemies hit by melee
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>DEILOCK
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>>719232662
Sure bud, here you go, get perma'd. Unlucky I guess.
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>>719228943
Why are his animations so shit? If hes the only unfinished one they sure got lucky he wasnt the first unlocked since the first 3 created so much hype with their designs and animations. Literally everything about him is shit. His walk, his slide, his attack, his sounds. Its awful
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>>719228943
Are the fujos taking the bait?
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>>719232789
Yeah hes pretty unfinished
Even Mina doesnt have a proper melee animation yet
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What do you do as Lash around midgame after hitting the 3-1-Freezing item combo when you don't have all the cooldown items and can't expect your skills to become quickly available? Just Grapple/movement spaghetti to escape and try to set up another dive combo if they have damage? Quick melee slaps and tickles with the peashooter while waiting for 3 to become available if you think they can't kill you?
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Damn, they've really improved the UX since I last played this.
Also Mina is cute. How do I build her?
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>>719234134
My advice is to just check what ability you want the most to scale with, and build around that. Reminder that sometimes they scale with gun damage instead of spirit and shit like that, so you need to READ... terrible I know
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>>719234226
I've played league for 15 years. I don't know how to read, but I'll do my best.
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>>719234279
Its funny you say that since I quit league for this. Solo climbing is the most insufferable shit ever and if you aren't a jungler its basically a coin toss every game. Not fun.
At least with this there's no one role that decides if you're going to win or not.
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>>719234134
You try to stack her passive to win your lane, it builds into a big DOT if you hit your shots.
Her teleport is for mobility, escaping, and chasing since it gives you bonus fire rate
Her umbrella is an Hp% execute that heals you
Her ult is just fly and do damage, best for single target since it splits damage, it grows stronger with stacks you get from hitting your DOT and fucks over characters that rely on escape spells like Pocket since it silences
The issue is that she's made of tissue paper and her gun sucks so she's pretty weak if you aren't an aimbotter
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>>719234426
Yeah I never cared for Jungle much until I Briar came out. Otherwise I mostly played top or ADC picrel.
I'll give this another try though. I only briefly tried it when it first exploded a while back on here. Only put about 4 hours in with a few friends then uninstalled.
>>719234429
Well thats disappointing. I'll still her a good try though, maybe it'll click.
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Finally got the doorman, he's kinda fun but I don't know how to use his portals efficiently, I just use them to escape and occasionally hit someone into them with the cart
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>>719234429
>build
Fire rate to stack your love bites and spirit for the DOT and ult, her gun sucks and she's so vulnerable that vitality items are barely holding her together
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I'm really having a terrible time ever since I came back, biggest thing is the shop rework. I used to always get a mobility "crutch" item like Fleetfoot, Extra Stamina or Boots, but now with 4 slots less you don't have the luxury on most characters. I know a lot of builds have Warp Stone instead but I hate that fucking item.
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>>719234581
You can use them to help your team escape from a bad place, a Haze ult, or a Kelvin snowball. They give a fat barrier when your teammates use them so they're good for initiation too. They do major brain damage and confuse enemies. And the classic onetrick of cart pushing an enemy into a portal into your guardian or walker or fountain.
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>>719234429
she is completely uncatchable because her 2 gets her to roofs
just get resto locket for survivability
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add autoaim to controllers pls
i want to play on my tv
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>>719234925
Don't ruin my games you faggot snoy.
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>>719235003
i play on my steamdeck docked bro
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They should add more feet characters
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>>719235065
die
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>>719231891
Yes his maxed out 1 deals a heavy melee basically. Also heavy melee scales with gun so despite him having what seems like a burst spirit kit he likes stacking gun damage more especially since he gets bonus gun damage on people he's meleed.
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>>719234779
Fleetfoot, Extra Stamina or Boots,
All those items are fine to buy and I don't know what the fuck you're building if you think you don't have room for them. Unless you mean you bought all three which yes, is not needed at all nor is buying warpstone but it depends on who you're playing. Really, a lot of people get warp stone because the instant speed movement lets you dodge shit. It's not really for the same thing that fleetfoot and boots are.
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>>719234581
Someone already mentioned to save your team as well. When you cart people through them try to put them under walkers. He can also cut a lot of time off urn if you preemptively set up a door on delivery and then go make a door as far as allowed for the urn carrier.
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>>719235301
I tried starting with Abrams and the overwhelming majority of builds I was looking up had zero mobility items outside of Warp Stone, I was dragging my ass everywhere and could put zero pressure on people, they just walked away. Same thing with Viscous.
It's going to be a long road getting decent at the game again. Yeah I'm not taking three though, but usually I used to get Fleetfoot + Boots or Stamina
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when the imposter is sus
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>Still talking about Pocket in his backstory/lore like hes not clearly a man
Why are thy still doing this?
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>>719235526
When you don't play or understand the game, the only way you can attempt to attack it is through the story.
The background of the game itself is interesting so they have to use the character bio's and the only one ambiguous about gender because he's actively trying to hide his identity is pocket.
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>>719235461
that's just build makers being shit and stacking the optimal dps items in because it makes the numbers bigger, buy stamina on abrams
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>>719236730
>When you don't play or understand the game
Well like other anons, I'm trying it out again since its been updated a lot recently.
I'm not trying to "attack" it. This is a genuine question, as I like most of the aspects of this games setting and aesthetic. I just think this is very stupid and at first glance seems like it was designed with certain things in mind. I just was reading through character backgrounds of ones I thought looked interesting, and was reminded of that from the first time I played.
That said, thank you for explaining it even if you thought I was just trying to shit on it, because if that is the actual case, it makes sense.
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>Can spectate random games
I miss when this was a thing in stuff like league. Seems neat though. Lets me learn how to not be a retard sometimes by seeing actual games.
This whole "base"/hideout thing is pretty neat.
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>>719237095
Oh I wasn't meaning you as in your post. It was more you in the hypothetical you being the person attacking it.
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>>719228943
Did they put Morbius into Deadlock?
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>>719234134
>vexing
You are a black man
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Why the FUCK do Paige and Drifter do so much god damn damage
Doorman and Mina were fine but both these cunts need nerfed
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>>719237583
>doorman and mina were fine
They aren't fine in the slightest.
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>>719237569
I'm white as can be, I'm not sure what about that post would imply I'm black though.
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>>719237679
Doorman's fine because he can only do high spirit nukes to one person, and Mina's fine because she's made of paper and eats absolute shit if you catch her with a slowing hex
Meanwhile, Paige does high damage and has good CC from long range in a wide aoe AND can heal and shield (also in an aoe). And Drifter's a splitpushing maniac who does absurd mixed damage with good sustain from lane through to lategame, on top of his blind making multiple people into lane creeps in a teamfight
These two characters are fucking retarded
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>>719237912
Victor has the possibility of being a real menace, I can see him being an unkillable aoe damage AIDS giver.
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>>719237698
It's a House MD meme, anon
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God damn Drifter is an absolute animal
damage is insane
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>>719238042
Oh. kek
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>>719237912

>Paige
>Not having a huge blindspot fight in front of her face

Literally just get on top of her.
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>>719238391
Easier said than done when, again, she's got a fucking LONG engage range after laning stage. Plus a shield and a heal so if you get on top of her with anything less than overwhelming force you may as well not have bothered, and if you do you're probably now well out of position and have blown everything for her teammates to come and fuck you
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>>719238094
Hes so fucking fun I just wish his animations were better
Like I get it beta and all that but still
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>>719238391
>close quarters paige
>blindspot
that's a great way of guaranteeing she hits all her shots and kills you instantly instead of missing most of them because of the proj. speed and only killing you half instantly because her weapon does so much damage
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Ratbros, is Drifter /ourguy/?
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>>719238802
>Seven being a bottom
Bitch nigga I will farm the entire jungle denying anyone else free farm for that.
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>>719238897
look at his smile
he's a power bottom for sure
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>>719235461
>I tried starting with Abrams and the overwhelming majority of builds I was looking up had zero mobility items outside of Warp Stone
Because Abrams can charge people in a direction so you want to be able to warp behind them and charge them towards your team rather than away. No other mobility items lets you do that. Still anon, don't follow build religiously. Maybe the enemy team is more mobile than average, if you feel like you need extra stamina, get it. It's only 800 souls. If you sell it later it was only 400 souls.
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>>719233157
Start roaming and ganking into other lanes, your combo should be enough to take off 3/4 of people's health and so whatever teammate you're helping out can finish them off. Also, don't be scared to use your ult agressively to remove people from safety - if there's a 2v2 lane with the enemy sat under their tower/walker, just use your ult to throw them out of safety, the tiny amount of damage from ulting on-top of the walker/guardian is nothing for turning the lane into a 3v0.

Also, always buy majestic leap.
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>>719233157
Lash is an assist demon when is ult is down. You will not get a lot of solo kills on good players. You will be able to gank lanes for your team and do just enough burst and hold someone in place just long enough with your popup from your dive that you will be able to make kills happen.
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>>719237461
Speaking of, I actually watched that movie recently. It wasn't as bad as the internet made me believe it was. It was okay. The ending sucked, but I liked Matt Smith's performance.
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I miss when my stone waifu was an absolute gremlin.
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>>719238559
Nah his animations are fun. He walks around like a humanoid panther if that makes any sense, it adds to the fact he's more predator than human.
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>>719239474
Same here, brother.
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Mina is so fucking boring.
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>>719239474
Ugly worshipping freak wanting game #53214124 to fail due to their warped tastes.
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No one cares about assfaggots
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Mina is so fucking fun. (When you understand how to play her)
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How many votes did you guys cast?
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>>719240131
I think her current design is her best so far, but it'd be nice if we got some skins that made her gremlin looking again.
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I just realized that I don't remember last time I saw someone play as Warden.
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>>719240349
>>719240631
my only problem with her is her ult doing negative damage
I'm stacking as much love bites as I can and I don't see a difference
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>win 2 games with billy
>he's now all I get when I queue up
huh thats cool
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>>719240689
11, all for Victor.
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>>719240729
love bites stacks only increase the duration, not the damage
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>>719240405
chinkpilled bot retard
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>>719229243
its inspired by headcrab zombie animation
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>>719240807
god damn it
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>>719238802
>Dynamo cheating on his wife
He doesn't deserve his body back.
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Hearing an enemy heartbeat and hunting them down is more fun then I thought it would be.
https://streamable.com/ftxvbg
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>>719234779
You get like 10 fucking item slots and you're complaining that they took away 4 of them? What the fuck? If anything they should remove more, get it down to 6 slots with higher power items.
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>>719240729
it does good damage when maxed, you kill anyone in 3 seconds
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>>719242967
*8+4
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>>719237569
i too am in this thread
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>>719244923
it's meant to be omen but it looks like he's calling himself an omega cuck
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>>719237569
Only stupid people play ASSFAGGOTS-TPS. We need CoD.

>I FORBID IT, GAY BEN LOVES ASSFAGGOTS!

Don't care.

More Call of Duty.

>Valve, I have players! I'm cured.
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I just finished my first game as a Abrams against players (despite wanting to play Billy) and holy shit this guy's ult is disgusting. I was one-tapping people near the end there with zero skill.
Is there ranked on this or has that not been implemented yet? I'm not a compfag just curious.
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>>719245198
There is ranked and you are in a low one, no shade it's just Arbams ult isn't that good. If you're stomping you'll move up quickly though and find out for yourself.
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>>719244996
Billy moment.
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>>719245286
Ahhh fair fair, nah i don't mind I'm literally learning my first few games. I wouldn't say I was stomping but I was winning lane so I'm happy. Prolly helps this is not my first moba so I know most of the basic F U N D A M E N T A L S
Am I stupid for implying that a lot of items seem to carry over through builds? Like I don't think anyone would say no to more max ammo even if they're going full tank or spirit.
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>>719242810
Imagine if they turned this into a game mode lmao
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>play supp ivy
>get a gun paige on my team
>just stunning bitches and healing her up while she cleans house all game
EASIEST WIN OF MY LIFE
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>>719245513
sums up his existence really
interesting decision to make a character so pathetic, not saying it like it's a bad thing though it's fun
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>>719245682
>Am I stupid for implying that a lot of items seem to carry over through builds?
Some cheap items like that are good for early-mid game, but when you start running out of slots they may have to go to make room for things you actually want
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>>719245849
I wonder if someone at valve hates anarchists lmao
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>>719245849
I think it's a fun aspect of his character, he's a tryhard anarchist slacktivist and pretty much everyone in the cast can see it.
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>>719246140
The true anarchist.
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>>719246140
>he's a tryhard anarchist slacktivist
I mean he's attending a murderhobo ritual, you can hardly call that slacking.
I view it as more him having no idea how to really... achieve anything. No mentors, just exploited by the world and the people around him. So he just seethes endlessly since he feels powerless.
He's literally me!!!
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>tfw been voting for victor since the voting started
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>>719246404
It's ok victorbro, we'll win in the end.
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I should be allowed to play with really new/bad players in my lobby. It's not smurfing when I do it, because I'm not that competitive and I'm not toxic when I when. Players better then me should not be allowed to play in my lobbies though.
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>>719246615
Just play against bot retarded frogposter
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>>719247031
holy newfag
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Real sick of this shit
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>>719246404
The king moves on his own accord.
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>>719246404
>Have to wait 2 weeks for Victor
>Now have to wait even longer because everyone is going to be choosing him since he's the last character.
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>>719247620
what? paige using her ult?
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>>719247867
This pairing. It's very annoying to lane against.
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>>719247884
BASED
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>>719247996
Oh
Yeah it's two cancer high damage lane pressurers, I'm not surprised you'd hate it when one's already bad enough
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I miss the 1v1 lanes so much bros. It was my favorite part of the game
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>>719248197
I hope they try out some condensed versions of the game.
A 3v3 with a narrower map and some of the alteration of turbo mode in DotA2 could work out.
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Give me ARAM, and my life is yours
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>mercurial magnum
>full vitality and spirit
>just exist near puny lankeks and bitchslap them while unkillable
Is my Victor strategy viable?
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>>719248574
You won't get anywhere without weapon damage.
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They need to add an item that makes your bullets homing because gun builds are too hard for the majority of the players
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>>719248676
The spirit scaling on his spells is kinda broken fr fr
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Well this was miserable.
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>>719250326
I think Drifter was a bad addition to the game because he's pretty much just pubstomp extraordinaire like this
There was already enough heroes like that
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>>719250326
I must say, I hate laning as Billy. He has no range. He is good in free fights, but fighting around an objective is near impossible as him. But free fights too often tend to be just deathballs, so he dies anyway.
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>WE DO NOT SERVE YOUR KIND HERE
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Deadlock 2 when?
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>>719250326
>not covering up the match id
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>>719250913
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>>719250913
lmao
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>>719250913
>Doesn't cover match id
>builds billy on the most retarded way
>cries on thread about it
wew
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>>719228943
>read his skills
What the fuck were they thinking.
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>>719251283
how do you build billy
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>>719251283
>>cries on thread about it
All he said was that the game was miserable which is certainly looks like it was. How is that crying about it?
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>>719250326
>Vyper and Billy with zero kills and nine deaths
Yeah that tracks.
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>>719250502
He'd be fine in a theoretical 1.0 version of the game with a pick/ban system and 20 more heroes, right now I think he's getting gutted before the weekend
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>>719251415
Never try to reason with MOBAniggers, this game transforms them into a rabid chimp slowly.
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>>719251054
Moщный Хyй, Пиздaтыe Яйцa
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>>719250913
I never cover it. If you care enough to look it up, then be my guest.

>>719251283
Do you have advice? I'm generally not good with melee characters, and that was an experimental build because I wanted to try using Majestic Leap. Pic related is a build I had more success with.
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So is the game at higher levels still "Wraith backdoors every objective and there is nothing you can do about it"?
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>open game
>warning: graphics driver out of date
that's none of your fucking business gabe
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Lady Geist owes me sex
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>>719234134
I want Mina's thighs around my neck
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>>719252096
My GPU is from 2017 and doesn't get new drivers anymore
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>>719246404
Heroes always arrive late.
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>>719251875
>Do you have advice
nta but I mean, you had the right idea, just not exactly there. Billy isn't a true melee character, he's a bruiser that wants to do melee but not to the extent of constantly just spamming heavy attack. His smg has insane dps up close if you build for it. In terms of spirit, you should generally not fuck with it unless you wanna do a meme spirit build just for laughs, normal builds one or two spirit items at most and only utility type. Also, as a side-note, obviously don't build fucking trophy collector if you're getting stomped. Pic related is my custom shit. Ultimately your mistake was spreading yourself out far too hard, especially with the purple items. Berserker and Blood Tribute work really well for Billy, in general as a rule of thumb you want to build more green than orange on billy as well.
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Post cosmetic ideas
>Holliday's hat for Viscous
>Umbrella hat Seven
>Mo and Krill costume swap
>Djinn hat/attire for Mirage
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is the anvil the only way to counter minas ult?
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>>719253650
How do you know if you want to build more green or other types of items on each character?
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>>719254489
Military uniform for Doorman
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>>719254489
Microbikini Abrams
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>>719254489
>Wagie Ivy skin
>Medieval scholar Paige skin
>Old deep sea diver Viscous suit
>Dracula Drifter skin
>Santa Claus Kelvin skin
>Native chieftain headdress hat for Grey Talon
>Egyptian Queen Calico skin
>(Not) Elvis Presley and (Not) Space Dandy skins for Shiv
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>>719254489
big warm sweater for ivy
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>>719254834
>How do you know
Generally? Matchups, seeing what allies I have, seeing what the enemy team consists of, what they build, how they play, etc. It's why I have a dedicated anti-vindicta category, since she's a hard counter to Billy with her flight and stake (although Phantom Strike is really good on Billy in general). I'm not going to build Iron Skin on Billy unless the enemy team has a good Wraith or Haze for example. Ultimately it's intuition however. Play Billy enough times and you'll learn how to act and behave, but in general you want to be really aggro with Billy, just need to learn when you can go balls deep, and when you need to hold back a bit.
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>>719250913
Im russian how do i escape russian games. Theres a secret setting somewhere right?
I mean not all of them bad (esp since i don't care that much anymore) but when they bad they get real bad.
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>>719255214
>Iron Skin
Fuck, I meant Metal Skin
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>>719254489
SMOOTH CRIMINAL costumes for Mo&Krill
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>>719254489
soldier warden
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>>719250545
I wouldn't say he's *that* bad but you to tend to get poked to death in a lot of lanes you're weaksided in. You need to wait for the opponent to overextend first instead of just rushing in like a madman.
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>>719246404
>named victor
>loses
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>>719254489
Conservative businessman Goat
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>>719254489
>Finnish Mo & Krill
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>>719246404
My dad works at nintendo, he said the votes are rigged.
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>skins for placeholder models
you idiots
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>>719240405
get raped faggot lmao
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>>719254489
what I want is for valve to reference their won games again. Having an engineer set for mcginnis and some from counter strike to any of the characters would be cool.

Also want deadlock items and skins for tf2 and CS2 as well.
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>>719255638
they're getting less placeholder with every update
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Why won't Drifter get a belt? Is he stupid?
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>>719255785
nope
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>>719255638
With the exception of a few characters their models aren't going to change significantly enough that these skins won't make sense.
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>>719255638
Most heroes have their ideas finalized. They might get new models, but they'll be just more refined versions of what is already there. Seven looks great, for example, he won't look too different when he is updated.
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>>719255762
You'll get a reference to their other games when Doorman appears as an Easter Egg in Half Life 3.
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>>719255848
any character still using neon prime models are getting new models
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Gyaru Vindicta.
Goth Paige
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>>719255998
theres already a mod that replaces doorman with g-man
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>>719256005
Characters like Vyper and Warden? Yeah, but some other characters like Paradox I don't see getting altered too severely.
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>>719255827
lash? ivy? geist? they just need animation updates and one more texture pass to be final
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>>719256106
Oh and Yamato, she's getting an entirely new model. Same with Viscous but honestly I like how he looks.
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>>719256005
For the love of god change Yamato so she doesn't look like a weird alien. I beg the patron
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>>719256340
She's 100% getting changed.
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>>719256228
>Ivy
Imqho they've nailed her with her current design, I don't see much more room for improvement.
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>>719255953
>Seven looks great, for example, he won't look too different when he is updated.
Which is hilarious because he's barely altered from his Neon Prime version which was completely different yet captures his new origin perfectly
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i got a bug where this was stuck on my screen for the entire match like a hiroshima nuclear shadow but for tumblr troonery
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>>719256561
can she become more sex than this?
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>>719254489
Oopsie diaper for Abrams, lebron James shirt SS Dynamo and Capri sun Glock 17 Mina.
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>>719256795
I had that too but with Sven [bot]. If one of those is up during the transition from lobby to game then it just stays on screen until you quit.
Same with if your healing or attacking someone at the end of the game as the screen fades.
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>>719256859
There's always room for improvement
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>>719246404
saving the best for last, Victorbro.
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>>719256561
wings clip like crazy when they're folded up, hat could use a bit more texture
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>>719257040
Lay off the mofongos you fat fuck
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>>719257040
>On model
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I used to loathe ivyniggers but now that Paige was mistakenly added I have a better target for my hatred, I don't mind them anymore.
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>want to play the new heroes
>get billy once
>now stuck with playing billy or sitting in ten-minute queue which inevitably gives me my lower-priority heroes
a pox upon yoshi for this system
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What's the abandon penalty?
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>>719258324
Mental illness
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>>719258463
The current system is AIDS for one-tricking a character unless you play someone who's very rare to see like Yamato.
Typically I go Billy/Abrams and its still very hit or miss since Billy is obviously new and everyone wants to try him out. God forbid you try to play Mina... good luck buddy i hope you win the lottery.
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>>719259214
Exponentially increasing bans from matchmaking
I don't know if low priority jail exists like in Dota
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how many vampires are in this game damn
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>>719259214
Temp matchmaking ban and shadow realm with subhumans and russians.

Same as Dota. Too many reports or penalties block your access
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Mirage is dogshit.
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>Attach Bebop bomb to friendly creep
>Go to punch it
>It speeds up so I whiff

I may be retarded.
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>>719259604
I'm already with Russians due to how region locking works.
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>>719259951
It don't have region locking, check matchmaking settings.
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>>719258463
this game needs like 15 to 20 more heroes not just because this system is ass but because there needs to be enough for a decent ban system and a bigger roster also dilutes the pool so you don't get Haze and Seven showing up in every fucking game with a 90%+ pickrate
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>>719260086
Where is that?
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>>719228943
>play Warden for the first time
>bully the Pocket in my lane so fucking hard for the first six minutes that the Vindicta starts flaming him and then leaves, causing a snowball leave for the entire enemy team except Yamato
oi m8 you got a loicense for that pronoun?
The Pocket being dogshit and the VIndicta being outrageously hostile to his own team feels like a stereotype joke.
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>>719260309
Post tips for warden, he's next on my try out list.
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>>719228943
Yes it has amazing artwork and game design (duh, it's valve)
Yes it has amazing voice actors (duh, it's valve)
Yes it has interesting versatile heroes (or playable characters, idk what's it called)
But the whole core of the game simply doesn't work well. You can't make a MOBA game as a third person shooter and expect it to work. MOBA is MOBA, it has to be played with top down view, like classic RTS strategy.
Why did Valve pour resourses in a game that don't work? Why don't just put all these resources in something that works? I tried, forced myself even, to enjoy the game and yet I couldn't for many months. And I'm a Valve customer through and through. There is no multiplayer game by Valve I haven't played or haven't enjoyed.
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>>719260428
ESLtard
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>>719246404
i still can't find him in lobby room, maybe he isnt real?
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>>719260139
The thing is that we're still faraway from where each team member can ban a character and not nuke half the options. That'd take what... 50+ at least?
A smarter choice IMO would be to give each team a choice of a singular ban that players can vote on. Whoever gets the most votes, gets banned (and if there's no consensus use RNG)
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>>719260491
I know 5 different languages, excuse me.
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>>719260393
He has a really strong gun, it's deceptively weak early.
Bully your lane with flasks
He's all about positioning, that's why blink, carpet, veil, majestic leap are great on him
Be careful not to get cucked out of your ult, cast it while using some mobility item and getting in
An ult is an instantly won teamfight or at minimum a dead walker
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>>719260528
Yeah, five different African languages you fucking monkey.
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>>719242810
he's just what would happen if "hes right behind me isnt he" was a character
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>>719260428
The concept of guiding troops up a lane whilst buying items isn't exclusive to RTS games.
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Would be cool if you could place his portal doors on the ground and on ceilings, but maybe it'd make him too powerful.
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>>719260641
French, Russian, German, English, and my mother tongue, which I won't name.
I'm probably whiter than you; it's rare to meet a more pale person than me.
Also, kys.
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>>719245849
I like how the only positive female attention he gets from the cast is from Vyper, another equally pathetic loser
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>0-14
Yep, I think I've had too much Deadlock today.
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>>719260748
itd make him more annoying than he already is
the ragebait would be potent as fuck when the momentum of gravity kicks in
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>>719257040
>>719257509
>fat ass latinx
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>>719260914
The solution is to not tilt.
Even if you get your ass handed to you in lane, simple split pushing will make you effective even if you're absurdly behind.
Don't play this like marvel rivals or faggot KDA hunters, strategy is key above all
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>>719260393
Like I said, first time playing him so I don't have the esoteric knowledge. But he definitely seems like a gun character. After I bullied the Pocket I shuffled lanes and decided to feed the fuck out of Drifter by caging people with him. It was an oppressive pairing. The cage works best if the target is already busy with something (getting jumped by a Cajun) or doesn't have a good way to just easily back off (because they're between a wall and a Cajun).
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>>719260793
>OOK OOK EEK EEK
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>>719261042
This
I'm pleasantly surprised how the catch-up works in this game, I can get roflstomped in lane with the fags on the other side having a 3k+ soul lead and 5 minutes later of playing safe, denying, box farming and doing jungle creeps we're at equal soul count and I feel like I can actually fight again
Sure as fuck beats being trapped in the cuck chair for 20+ minutes while I watch the enemies go to town on my throne in DoTA and League
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>>719260748
I'm expecting some sort of Aghanims Scepter item or upgrade that does something big to each character.
Placing portals on the floor seems appropriately strong.
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>>719261137
Only I know the truth
And you look stupid
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>>719261328
>aghs
I think it'd give him an extra ability where he can place trapdoors/elevator shafts alongside his normal doors
Imagine the amount of chaos you could cause
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>>719260968
>Mp4
I hope very few of the taunts end up being locked to certain characters.
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>>719228943
Been a hot minute since I played last. Does the matchmaking for parties still suck and does the Lash have eyes yet?
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>>719261137
>>719261492
>lash.wad
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>>719261454
>does the Lash have eyes yet?
yes but he never opens them
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>>719261634
Hell yeah
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>>719261543
>When you successfully check Billy into an eternal stay at the Baroness.
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>>719261634
Why would he? It wouldn't be fair to everyone else if he could see.
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>>719261928
The God of Combat restrains himself to ensure a fair and fun battle for the audience.
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>>719228943
Alex MErcer?
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>>719260512
He's on top of the giant bust in the practice room
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>>719228943
Is this game still a hunk of shit or did they actually fix enough shit to warrant playing it again?
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>>719262398
It was always worth playing. You're going to have to be specific about why you didn't like it.
And no, it's not going to suddenly stop being a moba. If you want other gamemodes then either wait for a workshop update or play something else.
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>>719262398
depends why you bounced off it
they just did a big 6 hero patch so character balance is the worst it's ever been, but there's more polish
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>>719262219
That, and Bebop can't blink. Gotta remind him and his dying mother why THE LASH is the best.
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>>719262398
It will always be a hunk of shit
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>>719262398
Last I played was in October last year and I like the changes they made to the lanes and items
Having 3 sections with 4 slots each dedicated to spirit, bullet, and defense was fucking cancer and solo lanes where ass and made the map unnecessarily big
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Just realized I still had a 10-month-old playtest invite for this sitting around; never bothered accepting it since I'm not usually into ASSFAGGOTS, but these threads have made me kinda curious to see what volvo is cooking
How much of a sweatfest is the game right now? I'm worried I might not have much fun if I try to jump in as a new player
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>>719262261
Yes.
Surprised he can pull out a Cajun accent, even if it isn't deep enough.
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>>719262802
Before playing a game spend 10 minutes in a practise area understanding how items work and what spirit power is. You will immediately be better than half the playerbase who blindly follows guides without knowing what anything does.
No character has a single specific best build or way to play them, so have fun experimenting or finding a role that suits you.
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This is the /v/ approved tier list of the characters.
You may not agree but truth is undeniable so that just means you are wrong.
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>>719263039
How can anyone hate Infernus?
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>>719262802
Well that depends. Are you semi competent at clicking heads and know that running into a fight, alone, with low health is suicide? If yes then you're fine. If no, you're also fine. Just pick seven or haze.
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>>719262802
Right now is a pretty good time to jump in as a new player due to there being a big influx of new players. Before playing a public match you should do some bot matches though to get a feel for the game and experiment with the heroes.
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>>719263083
he naruto runs like a retarded and does nothing.
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>>719263185
>he does nothing
Sounds like a skill issue
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>>719263039
>Viscous appreciation
Hell yeah.
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>>719263039
>hating on Bebop
This anon is that faggot Lash and can be ignored
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>>719262261
You mean Matt Mercer?
I'd be surprised if it wasn't him.
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>>719263298
yeah, the other team is so ass they died to fucking infernus. add them on steam and let them know they need to get better
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>>719262606
>And no, it's not going to suddenly stop being a moba
I get that, but is it at least a good moba? Cause when I played it made even launch SMITE look good.
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>>719262398
It's a MOBA
it will always be a hunk of shit
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>>719263517
Again, you need to go into what your issues are with the game or genre are because I always thought smite was a shit excuse for a game but this clicked with me after a single game back when the invites first flooded out.
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>>719263039
>gentleman thief that's a Scottish chick with a hot body, a cool mask, and thigh-high leather boots
>cringe
okay gayboy
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>>719263302
trillions even
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>>719263039
>ivy
>anything but cringe
You are rapemeat spawn tier
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>>719263039
People won't want to admit it but Billy is literally /v/ incarnate. They're the kind of retards who'd bait you with tranime gobbiedegook or call you a fatlus fag for enjoying a persona.
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>>719260806
girlfailure mets boyfailure <3
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>>719263039
Seven one tier up
Ivy one tier low
Infernus two tiers up
Paradox one tier up
Bebop one tier up
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>>719228943
What's a good way to build billy? Is he made to be a spirit bruiser with all the melee boosters?
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I don't think Bebop and Dynamo belong in the game aesthethics wise. They are fine as concept but not for Deadlock theme.
Bebop looks like something out of japanese postapoc manga and would be better as automaton. Think of Syberia.
And Nutty Porfessor should have been a posessed suit of armor like that german guy in Hellboy movie or the younger brother in FMA.
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>>719246214
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>>719237912
>Doorman's fine because he can only do high spirit nukes to one person
the bell aoe is absurd though?
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>>719264359
Bebop's still got his Neon Prime model, they'll change it.
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>>719264359
https://youtu.be/9SDeB15E1ec

That's because it wasn't.
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>>719264348
Gun billy is not bad, scales pretty well thanks to his passive
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>>719264298
>Ivy one tier low
are you smoking the crack cocaine?
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>>719264506
>>719264517
but isnt there a visual novel where he looks just they way he is but wears an apron and serves tea to some black old lady? this made me think that his design is more or less finalized and at most will get some touches like in the case of Seven and Shiv where they just changed some details to make them look less sci-fi
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>>719264359
Yeah they're pretty obviously in line for a design change because they seem the least fitting and most aligned with Neon Prime, still (besides Paradox but she kind of works and fits because trench coat thief is fine for the 40s noir style). Bebop just needs to be made more visibly clockwork-y and to lean in more heavily into his boxer/jazz vibe
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>>719263185
fern is good
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>>719264841
look at his current model more carefully
he's just straight up a futuristic robot, not the scrap golem he's supposed to be
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I played this for a while when it first came out and did okay, especially when I picked Lady Geist or Seven, but I haven't played it in probably like a year.

Is it at all possible to get back into it or is your average Deadlock player so good that there's no point?
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>>719265367
There's an influx of new players and people in the same boat as you right now, though because of that matchmaking is a little fucked due to it not really knowing where everyone's skill is, so you'll occasionally get games with 8 people who don't know what they're doing at all, and the 4 who do all being on one team.
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>>719265367
stay away lol, the games dead for a reason. skill floor is ridiculously high and there's no real noobs left to match with
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How is valve going to address the insane skill gap between players
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they need to make it so drifter looses some of his stacks on death
right his scaling is way too much
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>>719263039
Definitely not /vg/ approved they HATE Mo&Krill.
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DE HUNT BEGINS
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>>719266258
why?
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>>719264596
You will never convince me that mutt is cool, you gaslighting niggerfaggot.
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>>719265868
Isolate the sweats into separate queue.
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>>719266389
I'm making shit up it's only a handful of people who endlessly seethe about him.
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>>719265868
Same as Dota, they won't.

If the game becomes popular though, that won't be a problem and matchmaking should sort some of it out. League of Legends was the most popular game ever for a decade and it didn't give a fuck about the power gap between a bronzie and a pro. You could argue it wasn't perfect or even good at it but it maintained a playerbase off of matchmaking
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>>719266563
>I'm making shit up
Based
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>>719265868
Deadcock is going to be the fighting game/RTS of MOBA's, I can forsee it, a really good game but so much macro and micro shit it's impossible to get into as a newbie without obscene amounts of suffering and no gamemodes for casuals to not only have fun in but also get to grips with the game feel is going to severely cripple playercount
I hope there's still some blood left in Valve from the days of TF2, those niggas knew how to make a fun game but over a decade of Counterstrike and DoTA is showing in Deadlock.
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>>719255237
emigrate to a less dogshit country and maybe your great grandchildren can be trusted on civilized servers
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>>719264841
No, you're blind and gay unfortunately.
I hope the model reworks come soon and that they aren't spending all their modelling manpower on new heroes, Yamato and Talon desperately need updates
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Accurate?
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>>719267169
>obsessed with beauty high society lady
>very hairy
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>>719267169
Ivy to Smooth (statue, due), Geist to shaved.
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>>719267169
Helping Ivy shave for the first time...
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>>719267169
Ivy would have to physically chisel it herself what are you on about
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>>719267249
Pubic hair is beautiful, you brainwashed jew
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>>719234134
i build up her rake and she will insta kill anyone who isnt above 50%
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>>719267046
>Thinks servers will still be a thing that far into the future
I like the optimism.
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>>719267464
We're not Middle Easterners or Greek you fucking Barbarian
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What is Pawge even good at?
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>>719267459
>>719267319
Moss bush.
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>>719259646
One of 3 skills you will master as a bebop player.
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>>719267510
She's french and from the 1800s.
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>>719267169
>Paige
>Very hairy
I'm gonna need some photographic evidence.
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>>719267319
She literally has hair on her head and eyebrows.
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>>719267624
>Kudzu patch instead of pubes
>Need to take a weedwacker to it everyday to keep it in line
Wait, is that where she gets her bombs from?
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>>719265868
my guess is when they make a real ranking system? or work at all on the match making? or you know, anything they plan to do in a open beta. Not the closed beta we are in now (You could still call it a alpha, but the hidden testers get THAT)
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>>719263039
>blue barefoot sniper in the nigger tier
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Im ok with 90% of the balancing in this game, some builds are just annoying and make them feel like theyre op, but people dont know how to build around them. BUT infernus and Dynamo black hole are lame and badly deisgned. You can be the worlds worst DPS player play infernus and be good in lane, great in mid game, and unkillable leach in end game. healbane, DBR and decay are not really even counters to his over tuned, lame kit. Slow hex works until around 20 minutes, then he has too much health to and lifesteal to burst him in 3s. You dont even need to build more than two spirit items and afterburn people for 550 dmg. You can be the stupidest dynamo player and because the deathball meta is kinda prevalent rn you can get one lucky 3-6 ppl black hole and win the game even if you went 0-9.
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DRIFTERBROS

WE KEEP WINNING
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after years of being released grey talon still looks like a grandma, why?
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I like that drifter has some silly animations, the ideal edgelord character is 2/3 out looks cool, sounds cool, acts cool. 3/3 is my middle school OC
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>>719268056
because they're not planning to fully release the game in the nearest future
it became playable only because of the leak
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>>719266412
Anon, read what you fucking typed.
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>>719267930
he genuinely needs that retarded dog sprint it was so soulful
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is this really vypers model? is she a demon or do anthro people just casually walk around unexplained? also billy wants to fuck a giant snake if this her
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>>719267710
Just imagine all the skins she's gonna get.
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>>719268741
its some weird occult world with time traveling niggas and an 80s punk with a goat head so i think its really just anything goes
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>>719268741
That's a big oozi.
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>>719268852
Next time try jerking off before posting.
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>>719269143
My sweet, what do you think these posts are for?
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>>719268741
god she is so hot
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>>719268741
>also billy wants to fuck a giant snake if this her
can you blame him?
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how do you play this game?
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>>719263039
your list is shit
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Wesley. You dedicated your life to protecting others, but in the end, you couldn’t protect your son. Or his wife. Or their children. How many moments of their lives did you miss because you were too busy? Because you were traveling for work, because your calling was important and your family would be there when you return. Yes, their lives were stolen, but it was you who robbed them of a father. Well done.
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>>719269543
ask for invite on the game's steam forum
there's a dedicated thread for that
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>>719269713
I wonder how theyll integrate these lines i to the game

Maybe if you get killed by Doorman in his ult it plays when youre dead lmao
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>>719269746
I probably should have looked there first.
thanks
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>>719269713
What's the point when the ult is too short to hear these lines
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>decide to try holiday
>single shot hero that relies on really good aim
Why do they keep making them...and yes im bad. Though real difficulty of hers is chaining combos and barells being wonky as fuck.
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>>719269713
The Doorman must die.
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>>719269713
I look like that and I say that
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>>719270030
Valve dev said theyre figuring out where to put it
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>play like 5 games
>get comm banned for 2 weeks

no wonder no one talks in this game
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>>719270040
the trick with the barrels is to jump, throw barrel, and melee, and it will go whatever direction and explode on colliding with terrain. So a good thing to do is like, jump up with your bouncepad, aim down at an enemy, throw barrel and melee and it'll zoom down towards them. fiddle around with it in practice to get the hang of the arc, cause depending on if you aim down or horizontally it can have an arc to it.
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>>719270247
what harmless things did you say, anon?
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>tfw get a lane with Ivy and Vindicta
>tfw the pre-game voicelines is Vindicta bullying Ivy saying they aren't friends and just doing the ritual.
Funniest inter-character dialogue is still Seven and Lash.
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I hope we get some maps that take place outside of NYC, if not for the main MOBA mode than the side casual modes.
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>>719270247
I literally say "NIGGER" over and over in games, the fuck did you do anon?
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>>719270808
Only if it's other noir cities like Berlin and Paris. Maybe London.
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>>719270808
I want to see what other parts of cursed America is like. Maybe we can have a map take place in Ixia.
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i JUST PLAYED this viper guy and it seems to suck yet everyone says its busted
her 1 is dogshit, her 2 is okay, her sliding seems like a gimick easily countered and her ult can hinder more than it helps
maybe i suck dunno
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STOP FARMING ALONE WHEN THERES A DRIFTER IN THE ENEMY TEAM YOU RETARDED KEKS
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Spirit Billy is so fucking fun. If the enemy is dumb enough to group up you can just do your combo plus ult and solo the entire group. Anyone left standing? Just start spamming heavy attacks with your 3 active.
This retard is based
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>>719264359
They'd fit more if the designers would add more Weird Tales pulp magazine style sci-fi characters, they just stick out more at the moment but I don't think they inherently don't fit.
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>>719270881
>New Orleans
>The Deep
>London
>Some city in the Soviet Empire, maybe Petrograd
>Tokyo
They've certainly got options.
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>>719270946
Vyper was very strong but got nerfed pretty hard after a bit of being unbelievably broken
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BEBOOOOOOP NOOOOOOOO BEEEEEEBOOOOOOOOOOOOP
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>>719270837
>>719270305
I imagine saying nigger over and over again is less likely to get you banned.


1. I haven't played for a year
2.I used chat like.. 3 times, might have been muted for a game or 2 already


someone was talking shit after killing me in lane, then I went 'GET MAXIMUM BAMBOOZLED' as doorman with doors next to each other. One was with my team trying to coordinate, but they ended up dying to a fed haze and I told them to fuck off when they tried blaming me.

last one was me bitching to my team about how tf do I last hit souls with green dildos as paige against someone with a gun
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>>719270808
Its already a nightmare balancing the one moba map
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>>719271240
>Thanks for giving me something to look foward to, Bepop!
I love how you can tell he's wearing his shit-eating grin imagining all the horrifying stuff he'll do.
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>>719271240
>PoV: Drifter he touches Ms. Shelly
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>>719271083
>if the designers would add more Weird Tales pulp magazine style sci-fi characters
yeah, that what I want to see
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>>719271383
>>719271083
also, where is my man Lobster Johnson?
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I'm afraid. I've pretty much phased out competitive PvP from my gamer life. But Deadlock keeps coming up as something to play. I played 2k hours of Dota 2 and I know how much there is to learn and I just don't know if I have it IN me anymore.

Also why are both the Hopoo designed characters the least finished looking?
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>>719270946
nah she got nerfed into the ground, she WAS OP but bow she's bottom 3
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>>719271720
>2k hours in Dota 2
You already know half of Deadlock, the movement and shooting is just mechanical skill.
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>>719271720
Who are the Hotpoo characters?
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One thing I am glad about is Valve writing is still in this game, Abrams being tired of this shit and Seven being one the best edgy characters in a video game is great.
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>>719270683
vindicta is such a self-important bitch, hate her honestly
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>leakers say the main lead devs of Deadlock are:
>two risk of rain devs (hopoo is one of them)
>robin walker (tf2/valve vet)
>adrian finol (dota/valve vet)
>icefrog

Thoughts?
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>>719271930
Sinclair + Vyper. They also smell the closest to Dota 2 characters. Sinclair steals ults like Rubick and Vyper shares a name with Viper.
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>>719272063
I do wonder which heroes are their creations. I can feel Robin Walker in some of them but I can't nail down who would be his. I'm going to take a shot at McGinnis being one of them.
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>>719271349
Like I said they could be for casual modes instead of the main MOBA mode.
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>>719271934
>Revenge is fucking sick, get as much of that shit as you can
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>>719234779
I like collectors, I like collectors a lot
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>>719272468
>I've been turned into a dying star but I still need to teach Physics!
Honestly, you could probably make an Isekai title out of every hero's backstory.
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>>719272468
Heyoh Heyoh Grandpa is very based

I wonder who dun it
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>>719228943
Malkavian ass faggot
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the music they've added for when you're queing is sick, I dunno why valve games are so afraid of just having music mid-match
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>>719273704
he's CLEARLY a gangrel you PLEB
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>>719273704
Wrong, but we do need a Malkavian.
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>>719267169
Not bad but your preferences have clearly clouded your judgement. Moss doesn't count btw.
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>>719270946
>absolutely amazing VA
>character is fucking horseshit
EVERY SINGLE TIME
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>>719274054
>Viscous is actually a girl
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>>719274054
Vindicta doesn't even cut her hair, what makes you think she shaves?
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I was testing Mina earlier and it seems like her ult doesn't do a whole lot of damage? Like I get you're supposed to stack bats with the passive but it looked like the bats weren't even attacking the enemy inside the radius.
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>>719275608
It's only good for single targets. It does do a lot of damage
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this game will never take off because their idea of balance is having heroes like doorman who need to think in 4d chess moves and hit multiple skillshots to be 1/10th as good as a haze or seven who presses r and has a 40 average IQ-
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fyi they are updating drifters animations very soon
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>>719275774
Having different heroes for different skill levels will actually expand the appeal of the game, not shrink it.
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>>719275970
>Yoshi
and who is this?
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>>719271240
>Drifter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaOV3fNIYHs
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>>719275774
>people still complain about Seven and Haze ult
Just walk away bro
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>>719275275
>Shadboy
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>>719275981
Its not about having different skill ceilings its about high skill ceiling heroes being objectively worse than heroes that are just OW copies.
Doorman will never be as useful as a proper hard carry who has to just shoot and maybe use an ability once or twice.
Utility doesnt matter, game has no real support roles or functions.
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>>719276037
abdul "ice "yoshi" frog" ismail
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>>719275774
We call it variation dipshit.
I hope more heroes have their own little game to play.
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>>719276037
holy shit we must really be getting a lot of new players
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>>719276112
>Doorman has a button that turns off hard carries.
But utility doesn't matter.
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>>719276037
icefrog, crhist what is with all the newfags
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>>719276228
Literally does not matter that he turns off a single hard carry when the enemy team can have 3 other ones that just kill you and everyone else.
This still isnt dota, all that matters is that you outdamage the opponent and win.
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>>719276112
Having a doorman with a portal behind that you can hop back into base and then return into a fight or use the door to enable a teammate to snipe an otherwise impossible shot is the sort of thing that other games simply don't have or can't do.
Sorry your tiny mind can only think in terms of overwatch heroes and just shooting people.
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>>719276338
>Having a doorman with a portal behind that you can hop back into base and then return into a fight or use the door to enable a teammate to snipe an otherwise impossible shot is the sort of thing that other games simply don't have or can't do.
cool none of that will happen in real games only in reddit compilation videos, in real games he will just get nuked the fuck out by heroes that deal damage and just press a button to stun you
sorry bro you got outplayed, your 41231231 iq hero got obliterated by someone who had to hold down m1
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>>719276439
I have it happen in a game I finished 20 minutes ago. It's not uncommon or difficult to do.
You're making it sound more and more like you either don't play the game and are just finding ways to moan about it or are in such low skill games that it's a miracle the players are capable of using their skills.
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>>719271781
Ah fuck, when did this happen? I was basically a Vyper main before the item/shop update.
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>>719276331
Dunno, man, this is a very retarded opinion and you probably know that and are just venting after picking doorman and getting your shit pushed in.
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>>719276654
sure whatever you niggers are fucking retarded and blind
thank god winrates are tracked
notice anything about the skill level required for these heroes?
imagine if invoker was the weakest hero in DOTA 2, thats basically the balancing of this game
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>>719276786
its almost like designing heroes that are hard to play and worth dogshit in a match is bad design???
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>>719276860
Not even any of the niggas you were arguing with but yeah the game is an early playtesting build. It's going to have some sloppy balancing. All things considered, it's kind of surprising that it's as balanced as it is, because it's not even public or live yet.

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>>719276112
>Utility doesnt matter
lmao
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Does Drifter have retarded hitreg or am I just incredibly out of practice at denying?
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Almost like it's a pre-alpha and some of these characters have been in the game for days whilst swathes of new people are playing the game for the update.
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>>719277035
>Almost like
Stop formulating your sentences in this redditesque fashion
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>>719277139
I'll use sarcasm towards you because you're a dumb little bitch that likes to bring up stats on a character that's been available for less than a week.
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is viper fun? i want to start playing this.
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>>719276056
New heroes make the old ones seem so quaint, it's very funny. The original roster is so cut and dry even Kelvin doesn't seem like a fag kit-wise
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>>719277369
i do not recommend vyper to new players
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>>719277369
She's all aggression and heavy on the movement. Probably not the best for your first games but once you have a feel for escapes then go for it.
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>>719277369
Vyper is neigh useless unless you know how to chain-slide, not a newbie hero by any means
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>Load into a game as Dynamo
>Have an obviously new player in my lane.
>Buy healing items and try to tell them very calmly not to keep diving onto enemies and take focus more on staying alive and hitting the candle troops
>They keep diving into a Haze and Mirage over and over again.
>Get to ult and get both the faggots caught in it
>No follow up by the new player because they don't buy any items and are at a soul deficit.
>They say "THIS GAME SUCKS!" and RQ
I have the patience of a saint but I admit that ticked me off a bit to the point where I went into the next match as McGinnis and turned my brain off.
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>>719277696
This is why it's good to force players into a quick tutorial just to get basic things like items and pushing with troopers into their head.
I often wonder what draws them into an invite only game and then remember that the rougher graphics probably served as a great casual filter.
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>>719277427
>>719277497
>>719277525
thanks for all the replies.
>heavy on the movement
sounds really, really good. i'll try to get good at someone basic and play her then. your general has a ton of cool resources btw.
thanks again.
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>Drifter comes out
>player peak drops by 9k
lmao, no one likes drifter
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>>719278137
>So scary he spooked off nine thousand people
Drifter won.
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>>719278040
I started playing her after returning. It's easy to be useless as her or even fuck up ganks by landing ult.
But damn sliding everywhere is fun af. I just think of it as training my slide shooting for other heroes
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>>719277950
One on hand it does make sense, but on the other, I dunno how you can be a new player and not take on board what others are trying to tell you either. I remember in TF2 teaching F2P's the cool things they can do with their classes and have them be very happy with it, same with DOTA when I teach them how to carry while I babysit them as a support. Deadlock has a lot more people who slam their face into a wall over and over again instead of learning to back off.
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>Get placed in Unemployment lobby
>Enemy team has 4 new heroes
>Get crushed into the dirt and lose by 50k

Amazing shit. Thank you matchmaker.
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>>719278137
this is new player fatigue, their brains caving in to being overloaded

t. Abhrams player and thus immune to driffggers
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>>719274054
>amish
>ever shaving
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>>719275452
>>719278757
why do you think they killed her?
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Friends of Humanity did nothing wrong.
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>>719278332
The structure of TF2 and a MobA are different.
TF2 you can drop in and out of, you can swap classes and goof off and still contribute to a game. The difference between the best and the worst player mattered less because there was 12 other guys on each side all doing their own thing too.
In something like deadlock you're trapped in there with 11 others for the next 40 minutes. Nobody can swap out and everyone has a constant stream of things they're checking on for their own sake and the team.
The first game is generally a rush of everything happening and you struggling to keep up with it all, getting lost in the list of items and likely not even being aware the games ending as the patron falls.
You can't fully prepare someone for what a moba will be like without them actually playing it, but at least getting the core concepts and hammering in that you're a vulnerable character that will get ruined by the guardian and other players in seconds if they rush in. It's important to make that clear as soon as possible and what the player can do to make themselves strong enough to prevent that.
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How do I stop being an aimlet? I've played Dynamo so much I can hear him in my fucking sleep I need to play someone else
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i need to have hot babymaking sex with him
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They should add an item like Mekansm from Dota
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>>719280790
?
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>>719280790
heal nova exists
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>>719279515
I can teach you the ways of the dark side:

1. Start playing normal shooter. Preferably ones with moving targets. Learn to predict opponent movements.
2. Eventually lower sensitivity as low as you can manage.
3. Start to use shoulder/arm to aim. Make use of your large mousepad. Wrist/fingers are for micro adjustments.
4. You start to realize you can completely predict average ape opponent's movement but can never execute the actual aiming part properly to take advantage of this thus you resort to grinding aim trainers to train your muscle memory
5. Realize you are spending unhealthy amounts of time grinding useless vidya skills just to get rekt by closet cheaters anyway
6. Start closet cheating yourself to keep up and complete your journey to the dark side
7. Quit competitive games after realizing they are unfun slop
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every game I'm laning against the doorman
so fucking sick of this character
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>>719267930
>>719275970
Not to rain on your parade, but did you think he'd say no?
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>>719278137
It's a thursday and the spikes were from people logging in to look at the new character
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>>719280975
>>719280978
I more-so meant with the +armor (or perhaps in this game, barrier or resist) effect, with the caveat that the effect is unstackable with itself
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>>719228943
What a shame. He wasn't L4D hunter. I was so ready to do pounce attacks
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>>719282059
hunter is already in the game and he is called lash and lash is nowhere as cool and fun to play as hunter unfortunately
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>>719282059
They should tweak his second ability so he does a hunter lunge and only begins to teleport when you max it out.
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>>719281925
Heroic Aura gives a passive armor aura
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>>719228943
Now that I think about it, if Valve was smart, they should have made Artifact a completely new IP back then instead of making it piggyback on Dota 2. That probably also would have freed them from certain design constraints and overall would have resulted in a better game design.
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>>719260806
Dont talk about Lash's Girl like that
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>>719281565
>*DING-DING*
>*DING-DING*
>*DING-DING*
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>>719282243
If Valve was smart they would've done the Dota RPG instead.
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>>719282330
This. I fucking love shit like the co-op campaign they did with the Nagas or Aghanim's Labyrinth
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>>719280975
>heal 325 (460 at full boons) every 60 seconds for 3200
genuinely what the fuck were they thinking? does anyone even buy this item anymore
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>>719267464
Where do niggas like you even come from.
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>>719282560
I do as Dynamo when I'm healmaxxing since it keeps Tempo up when rescue beam and aura are cooling down
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>25% damage when you nail a jump from a rooftop
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FOR THE DJINN
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>>719276037
You know who he is
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>>719283098
Infernus needs to make a Gin pun against this guy
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>>719283098
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA https://files.catbox.moe/0vz8un.mp4
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>>719283098
The best mirage gameplay
https://files.catbox.moe/0vz8un.mp4
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>>719282749
Europe
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>>719282560
I still buy it on wivy but they need to unfuck it urgently man
Same with rescue beam, it's so trash now
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We REALLY dodged a bullet with Neon Prime huh?
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>>719283154
>>719283182
Wyoming...
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>>719283098
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH FOR THE DJINN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>719283294
>Djinn want to purchase Wyoming
>The outer circle of hell is annexed to the US of A
I love this game's worldbuilding.
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>>719283270
>Transformed shit into gold
How did Valve do it?
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>>719283098
how do you even play him
his ult is very weird, which is kind of a huge dealbreaker
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>>719283367
Can you enlighten a simple minded Euro as too what is special about Wyoming?
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>>719283424
Sand, something that Djinn want.
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>>719283424
Least populated US State
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>>719283403
honestly the whole dei hires theory doesn't seems that farfetched
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>>719283403
It iterative process of every game being made. You usually don't see the failed ideas.
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>>719283098
I'LL TAKE YOUR WIFE
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>>719283403
I wonder what made them aggressively change course in terms of art style.
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Doorman's bells are fucking broken. Not only can they be cast like holiday barrels, they can hit twice (once on hitbox collision and once when AOE exploding), don't require you to be doing some funky tech, and also apply the AIDS ass full reticule bloom and a movement slow that's pretty much the same as her knockup.
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>>719283413
His ult would be less weird if his kit had some form of wave clear or a way to do extra damage against isolated targets. His ult allows for global ganking and split pushing without missing team fights but nothing else in his kit particularly lends itself to either of these things
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>>719283827
I hope they nerf the bells so i can keep abusing the gun damage and the cart
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>>719283845
one thing does
his gun
because it deals a bazillion damage
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>>719283689
>all the kerfuffle surrounding TF2
>make the Abrams model
>can your shitty OW-like and do TF2's aesthetics but with more occultist shit
I bet the entire team was relieved they changed course so hard, Neon Prime looked so fucking bad
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>>719283957
i know it does because I've fought against it but whenever I play mirage it feels like a peashooter
i can do well on any other gun carry but mirage only brings the wet noodle
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>>719283689
playtesters didn't like it
also, its lore was basically a copy of dota underlords with a city run by criminals and that was 100% a sweet baby thing, so maybe all that was offputting as well
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>>719284046
Considering Infernus went from Miles Morales to Cool Cat Bar Nigga, I believe it.
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>tag someone with drifter orb
>start running away from them until the timer is about to run out
>teleport behind them and heavy melee them in the ass with backstabber

surely this will stop working eventually, but it hasn't yet
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>>719276037
Chilly amphibian
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>>719283689
Unironically probably concord or hyenas + the year long chimpout about sweetbaby. Retro-futurism/50s scifi/casette futurism as a aesthetic seems to be what the vidya equivalent of calarts and they were right to can it.
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When is it appropriate to use Shiv's right click over left click?
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>>719284286
right before you're about to use an ability or melee because then you don't care about the longer cooldown between shots. also movement stuff
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Post dem character ideas
>A zombified baseball player looking to get his name back in the hall of fame after a sports betting scandal named Deadball
>An egyptian pharoah mummy resurrected on the eclipse looking to turn New York into his new Empire, can't speak english but has a canopic jar with his heart that's been alive since the first eclipse (and has become a stereotypical brooklynite). Probably smacktalks the djinn.
>A new england guy who's seen the Adversary and has gone insane Lovecraft style, looking to get his memory wiped by the Patron and to stop becoming a squid
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>>719228943
He's fuckin' crazy, but not the L4D hunter I was promised.
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>>719285012
>Organ grinder monkey guy (the monkey is krills brother and the organ grinder is his wop goon)
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>>719285012
This was when riffing with an anon about an Invoker expy
>A rival magician to Sinclair who once claimed he knew REAL magic and one day was bestowed with real magical powers that he controls with hand movements... any hand movement. Can't wipe his ass without shooting a bolt. His wish is to be free from this curse.
>>
who
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Is there any free camera console command? So I can check the models up close
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>>719285012
A medieval knight who was sent to the future by an evil spirit and wants the patron to send him back to the past.
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>>719263298
>Billy with 0 health items
What the absolute fuck
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>>719285012
a golden retriever gains humanity while protecting her owner from a serial killer who accidentally curses her with his cursed sword, wants to go back to being a dog because humanity sucks
heavy scottish accent (goldens were first bred in scotland around the 1850s) and fights using that same cursed sword
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>>719285557
I remember Heart too, anon
when
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>>719263185
git gud
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>>719285419
He'd been out for all of an hour so I think people were working stuff out. Every time he charged or pulled me in I'd just ignite him and there was little he could do to stay alive.
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>>719285012
someone posted an idea for a faerie and city faeries in this world should be union labor for magical assembly. They have their union dimension where they do their paper pushing and it's so disorganized that to mortals just the stacks of paper alone seem like a dense forest of trees. They're rivals to all the criminals because the playable faerie is a union boss and hates losing juniors to being patsies in busts
naturally also hates poor characters because they're potential rivals in the labor market
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>>719285012
>A mime, but mime magic is real
>A British big game hunter looking to snag the very real giant alligator living in the New York sewers
>A stained glass demon come to life
>A cultist carrying a massive mirror lashed to their back that reflects spells, at a cost
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>>719286843
>A mime, but mime magic is real
i support this idea
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>>719286843
>Mime pistol grips thin air
Fund it.
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>>719232989
Paige for the yumes and these two for the fujos



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