>>719252742
Both are shit, their players enjoy eating from different assholes.

>>719252742
chinks can't balance for shit

>>719252742
justice for brad's wife

>>719252742
Overwatch actually has good gameplay, or at least better than Rivals. The only thing Rivals ever had going for it was coom. And before you seethe, look at the Twitter/YouTube/Reddit ads. It's all focused on Luna's ass and Emma's tits right now.

Players of blizzard games dont usually abandon their shit games because of time/money invested, even when there are better games of the same genre, happened with HS, OW, WOW

>>719252742
>peak of season vs end of season
Jesus overtrannies are desperate

Both games sucks

Uses the word "slop"

Thanks for confirming you are useless zoomer.

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>>719253387
Kek they sure are. This shit wasn't even beating MR S.5's dead player count of 60K by the end of it's season.

>>719252742
>tied
51k vs 44k right now and the daily peak is nearly double in Marvel Rival's favor
What are these fuckers peddling?
I don't play either game but jesus christ what is it with this hatred of chink games?

Rivals is the first multiplayer game I've touched since tf2 circa 2009 and it convinced me these modern matchmaking systems you kids grew up with are genuine cancer designed around psychologically abusing the player.

>>719252742
Overwatch didnt get comfortable
Marvel Rivals thought it was on easy street and could just pump out skins and characters to keep the masses complacent without actually fixing any of the core issues with their game
Lets not even begin to mention the fucking match making, jesus christ

>>719253531
Playing overwatch on steam is objectively worse than through battle net. Overwatch steam players are an outlier. Sorry your reheated fisher price babbys first hero shooter couldn't cut it off coomer skins alone.

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It's fun

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>IT'S TIME TO PUT ON A SHOW
>YOUR POWERS ARE MINE
>IT'S TIME TO PUT ON A SHOW
yeah man i don't know how this happened, that's crazy.

>>719252742
That's crazy since barely any pc players play on steam vs battlenet

>>719253674
>these modern matchmaking systems you kids grew up with are genuine cancer
Honestly think the stomp vs be stomped thing is a result of the healing in this game being so strong between your healers being supbar and good dive players constantly taking healers, it's just to easy for a match to turn into a stomp.

I'm not surprised this happened.
It's a fun game but their inability to balance really fucked it up.
Like dude, if you just go play comp you'll notice everyone ban the same 4 characters but somehow or maliciously the devs REFUSE to nerf any of them or even take a look at them.

>>719253759
>Overwatch didnt get comfortable
are you serious lol
granted, perhaps not so much at this time, but lmao

>>719252742
these overwatch-format hero shooters and mobas are all the same fucking game and I'm tired of pretending they're not
they give it a different coat of paint for each game but its all the same shit
they survive based on random chance

>>719253021
>The only thing Rivals ever had going for it was coom.
>Overwatch actually has good gameplay
> Overwatch
> gameplay

holy shit did that brown artist that keeps on spamming his shitty art finally get banned

>>719252742
Fuck off, retard.

>>719256045
Wolverine's design is inherently problematic.

>>719253759
and they keep dropping DPS characters instead of tanks and supps. despite there being more DPS at launch than tanks and supps.
the dps that do release are utter shit at launch killing any hype for them.
next season is one more dps but at least a tank.

why do coomer shooters keep failing to attract White audience?

>>719252742
When you get over the novelty of a Marvel superhero hero shooter and the coomer skins, it's not really that good of a game. Overwatch isn't much better, mind you.

>>719260425
No one gives a shit about the white audience anymore.
Videogames only thrive thanks to the Chinese market.

>>719252742
Hero shooters are a garbage genre and its about time they died off. Valve's gonna set a new trend once Deadlock goes open beta.

>>719256201
You're just going to ignore all the changed they made specifically because Marvel Rivals was popping off?

>>719252742
>overwatch
Has been on a downward spiral since 2020 and will never recover, especially after that disaster of a sequel launch
>Marvel Rivals
Once the hype died down they kept making worse and worse balancing choices until we got where we are now. Supports are still massively overtuned despite 6 months of asking for nerfs.

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>>719260945
then why do chinks seethe whenever their newest rollslop flops in the west

>>719252742
coom shit doesn't lead to long term game longevity and player counts? imagine my shock

>>719261738
>Once the hype died down they kept making worse and worse balancing choices until we got where we are now. Supports are still massively overtuned despite 6 months of asking for nerfs.
I don't get how they can refuse to listen after losing this many players

>>719262815
Multiplayer games made in asia in general has this weird obsession with keeping healers overpowered and I have no idea why.

>>719252742
Check Steam's top reviews for Rivals.
It's the matchmaking, people hate it.
Either Quick match or Comp, it doesn't matter. 75% of the matcher are lopsided and retarded.
I usually look at the opponent's history, the common composition is:
Winning team: all gold/platinum
Losing team: 5 silver/ 1 GM

People are logging int to get their weekly currency and leave.

>>719264210
don't forget solos being thrown vs stacks

>>719264210
For me? Its being forced to play a bot match
Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to force people to play against bots if you lose twice in a row?
I really don't understand the logic, like its not even a fun match because all the bots just ran at your team the entire match.

>>719264210
Yea any comment that doesn't bring up EOMM and blames anything else is retarded. Like I saw a comment here blaming the 1 superhero 2 month patch cycle being "slow" and forgot to call him a retard. I literally went from playing everyday, to only playing comp, to not playing at all now. Whoever thought a forced 50/50 deserves to get their throat slit.

>>719252742
>Marvel Rivals is dying
>Overwatch is thriving
>Deadlock is growing
Gooners lost.
Woke won.

>>719253962
I was playing as c&d with a luna and a loki the tank was strange and dps were iron fist and magic.. We synced our ults so we had two Luna ults back to back and I Ulted after. The other team was so butt blasted that they switched to mag and ironman to counter ult. After mag slam dunked me once strange swapped to mag to bubble my ult and when ironman blasted Loki cross dressing as Luna iron fist swapped to hulk to bubble her ult. It was pure cancer. They had an Adam and a mantis so of course they blamed the healers but we really were cancer that match..
I also got my first Hexakill with Jeff ult yesterday, surprised it doesn't have an achievement. They were chasing me the rest of the match. There's times as a Jeff player that you can feel the pure hatred of the people attacking you. The amount of solo ults you get as Jeff is unbelievable. I always use my ult to bait a mag or ironman ult so our Luna IW or dagger can ult safely. It works 90% of the time

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join rivals
get free luna main gf

>>719265234
will she cuck me?

>>719265321
>she

>Ultron releases
>He's a terrible healer
At least we will always have Luna fucking Snow.

>>719265456
Luna is trash now.

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>>719252742
>forbes
>paul tassi
buy an ad shill

>>719253765
>Playing overwatch on steam is objectively worse than through battle net.
No it's not, there is a reason a lot of players changed to the Steam client when the Steam version came out. Battle.net is dogshit

>marvel rivals is dying faster than ever
as said by increasingly nervous overtranny for the 8503rd day in a row

It has always been a shit game. I played 6 hours when it came out and saw it was just a shit OW clone. They didnt learn any of the lessons from OW ( double shields, busted supports, horrid maps) and people thought it was gods gift because some characters had a nice ass. The skill expression in that game is trash as well you can even fucking crouch, everyone has a fuck huge hitbox and you shoot tree trunks so aiming is lenient. Trash game, people just got snow bunny mind controlled.

maybe they shouldn't have given her a man face

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The game's just shit right now.
the healing ult meta overshadows most of the plays people are making, it invalidates like 3 supports
range duelists are ultimately the strongest playstyle in the game because theres no risk when someone can just stand back and poke everything to death
all damage and healing is overtuned which makes the game feel insuffurable
stun spam is slowly but surely creeping into the game with every character release because for some reason every character no matter the role has some form of stun some worse than others

the ban system is terrible and tries to add depth and surprise to bans when everyone should be able to see who's banning what and on top of this one retard can ban a joke character and his ban will get priority over 3 others

the game really is a joke, and they're still going all in on skins instead of addressing problems with the game's fundemental core balance.
The cope in /mrg/ and on reddit is unbelievable too, there are people who cant even bring themselves to accept that certain heroes are blatantly overpowered because they're porbably fucking playing them lol.

Im not even angry, im just disappointed that this is how the game went. netease had all the cards to make this better and bigger than ti should have been.

>>719252742
overwatch is more fun and both has hot chicks, no reason for rivals to exist

>>719265580
How many Marvel Rivals players are there on Battle.net?

>Team based game with mandatory Tank/DPS/Healer roles
Why the fuck do they keep doing this? TF2 has one healer and you don't even really need one to be successful.

>>719252742
>>719265512
>>719264602
Very subtle, OP

Didn't Overwatch become a gooner game too and that's why it's seeing some slight success?

>>719265637
>aiming is lenient.
Retard.

Rivals has by far the worst aiming in any game I've played.

Hitboxes are all over the place, movement speed is insane, there is next to no momentum, most ranged attacks are slow ass projectiles with weird hitboxes and huge damage falloffs, effects and even ui elements obscure everything, and finally they even fucked up the reticle.

>>719252742
both are poorly designed "games" carried by their character designs and brand backing

>>719265893
Because it worked for Overwatch 1. Game had a large amount of sales prior to F2P by the way.

>Even journos write steam chart news stories.

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>>719265680
it also doesnt help that the chink developers are playing favorites with characters
luna, hela and emma are blatantly broken yet they haven't been nerfed. either they're incredibly retarded or they're intentionally not nerfing popular heroes.

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>>719252742
Great joke you fucking spastic indian subhuman mongoloid neanderthal retarded dung eating fag

>>719264964
>>Deadlock is growing
That's the only fact on your post. Good riddance to this shit genre, things are so bad even 3D dota would be better

>>719252742
coomerslop never wins in the long run
it's always fotm

>>719252890
>Both are shit
Wrong you stupid faggot, OW you retard, Rivals is fine

For me its the fact that tanks are absolutely miserable to play in this game so nobody wants to play them, meaning more people instalock dps, meaning you're forced to fill in as tank or eat a loss because of retarded team comp

If video games were successful and fun, you people wouldn't have anything to talk about, so be glad the hobby is dying and being destroyed.

>>719266669
Tanks are 100% team reliant. You don't want to be team reliant.

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>Steam has the most reliable data
>Xbox only shows ranks
>PS/Ninteᥒd𐐬 don't seem to release anything
>Bnet never shows numbers after WoW started bleeding subs
And I'm supposed to believe Rivals is dying because "just trust me bro!"
lol blizzdrones

>>719266586
what's crazy is that it's a forbes article that just straight up lies in the title lol. he picked a time where OW is coming up and Rivals is going down (asian primetime) instead of comparing the 24hour peaks.

>>719253021
>Overwatch actually has good gameplay
As someone who has played Overwatch, no, you're a retard.

>>719266784
>>719266848
Obvious hitpiece because you can't have "gooner" games succeeding. Same shit happened with Stellar Blade where western game devs hated it and did everything they could to downplay its success.

>>719266669
Tank is only fun if youre playing Emma
If you arent well enjoying eating the grabs every time you go for a play

>>719252742
I didn't like the change to Rivals' dailies.

>>719266889
not that anon, but Rivals feels like a Gameloft knockoff of Overwatch. Like if Overwatch was GTA, Rivals would be Gangstar City.

>>719266784
>Bnet never shows numbers after WoW started bleeding subs
When did Bnet ever show their numbers?

>>719266669
I don't know I enjoy Thor

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As someone who played Rivals a decent amount the first months after release, I just think the game is very stale. The meta is the same it was at launch. Healer ult into healer ult. None of the characters save for Spider-Man have much mechanical depth to them.

>>719266889
Without a doubt
The engine and the physics are like a thousand times better
I don't blame Netease since their mobile devs but we cant pretend their on par at all

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I fucking hate Overwatch now but it seriously is insulting that people think some low effort trash like Rivals is doing better for reasons that aren't coom/flavor-of-the-month related.

>>719267180
they're*
fuck im tired

>>719267082
They did up until a decade ago this November, when WoW subs started falling off.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/blizzard-will-no-longer-report-world-of-warcraft-s/1100-6431943/

i stoped playing after i got banned for 100 years for making a imo very funny joke about jews in chat

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>>719252742
>generic hero shooter with a marvel gimmick
>every match plays out the same, or close to it
>people get fatigued outside of the addicts and move on to something else

Shocker.

Overwatch is more stable with shitty PCs
Rivals isn't

When you lose the people jumping on the trend, you are left with the poor people who a) can't buy another game (for OW1) b) only play the one game which is also free (which applies to both cases).
Both are now in a dead game genre, one has ups and downs.

>>719264964
Overwatch is pivoting into appealing to coomers now with Juno.

>>719266784
Everyone has been calling OW a "dead game" since 2 was announced and its the only hero shooter still thriving.

>>719266487
They’ll nerf popular characters, but only if that character was already mediocre to begin with. Thor had a high pick rate and wasn’t particularly good at anything but sustained brawling, then they took him out back and kneecapped him.

>>719258690
>>719266889
Love how both you retards immediately strawmanned. The full quote is:

>Overwatch actually has good gameplay, or at least better than Rivals.

>>719265956
based (you) junkie taking a shit on the board

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>>719258690
Remember when Marvel Rivals made that lucioball clone but the ball had the physics of a fucking rock so you had to carry it around instead of kick it?
Yea...

>>719267798
Juno is like a year old is there anything else? Looks like a chinky twink launched today

>>719268095
>Rocket League ripoff
no doubt that's the best gameplay these dogshit games can muster up, I'll take your word for it

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>>719268201
The only other female since Juno is Freyja iirc and she's modestly dressed. The skins are a different story though.

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>say the N word
>game taken
Blizzard?

>>719265847
is there a reason for ow players to stay on bnet? Like i'm sure a few stayed but i'm willing to bet they are less than 1K and that's being generous

>>719266968
How old are you?
Overwatch is the original gooner game retard

I stopped playing Rivals when they made it clear they weren't making any sexy Peni Parker outfits.

Game can die now.

>>719268982
Pretty sure the original gooner game was Tomb Raider.

>>719268965
Is there a reason they wont? We can make assumptions all day without any actual bnet figures

>>719253354
I can't believe Battlebit died that quick :(

>>719266784
welcome to why everyone hates blizzard cultists

>>719264210
>win too much in qp
>next match: 3 gms on enemy team, console players on your team
>game mode: defense
jeez i wonder what the purpose of this algorithmic game was!

>>719266784
I mean you guys were saying Overwatch 2 was dead because it had less players than Marvel Rivals on steam.. even after we told you Overwatch has tons of console and blizzard launcher players you screamed. And now when Overwatch 2 has overtaken Marvel Rivals on steam, suddenly it doesn't count?

Come on, at least be consistent.

>>719269205
people just prefer steam, or atleast that's what i gather from my real life experiences and what i see online. I know people add games from gog as non steam games for ease of use

Overwatch needs more tits and asses to succeed.

>>719267071
This is a surprisingly accurate way to put it. Rivals really does feel like a low quality mobile game version of Overwatch. And I say this as someone who has 50 hours in it.

>>719269284
The devs cucked out and started auto moderating the voice chat. Killed the vibe real quick when you couldn't play music or scream in proxy chat. MANY such cases.

Why do people whine and cry that they want more tanks and healers when they only use one of each and demand all others be exactly like the ones they use?

>>719269731
>We need more tanks
>But if they are not as good as the current tanks you should never play them
>also if they are better than current tanks then they are too strong and should be nerfed/perma banned
I think its autism

>>719269387
Every reply is the same TRUST ME BRO, it's on par with Ubisoft pretending AC Shadows is thr best selling game of the year, very pathetic. Show numbers or keep coping blizztards

>>719269531
So just assumptions, gotcha.

>>719269842
What's really funny is they want more tanks that are like Reinhardt, just stand there and hold up a shield where the healers can spam heals on them. The reason they hate any non-shield wall tank is because they suck and are afraid to be more than two feet from a healer.

the game just broke me after awhile, i just couldnt take it
>4 lose streak
>surely it will stop now and i get a win
>enemy wolverine just grabs me in front of my entire team (beginning of the match)
>flies me to his team
>i instantly die
>our wolverine just perished idk
i just said fuck it, i can't do this shit no more altf4 uninstalled and never looked back, that was 3 months ago

those stomps were so fucking bad i just couldnt believe it honestly, and i'm pretty sure the game fucks with your stats and dmg if you're on loser queue

>>719266487
DPS characters cannot be OP when every support hero can outheal everything.

>>719270239
Play someone with mobility so you can get out of the Wolverine kidnap. Stop playing Groot into him.

>>719270331
I was playing a healer at the time
yes, he walked through my entire team

>>719270239
>stats and dmg if you're on loser queue
I wouldnt be suprised, their EOMM document showed that hitboxes can get changed to make it easier for the team it wants to win

>>719269590
I play every once in a while and I still hear that shit. What killed the game was them having a couple horrible, dogshit updates in succession and then leaving the game in 2 years of radio silence, where during that time sweats got better and chased off any casual players with the spastic bunnyhop dropshotting and unmoderated recoil macro shit.

>>719269590
That was only a recent change added last week what killed the game is awful matchmaking and balance it was definitely dying before that

>>719271302
>hitboxes can get changed
As someone who played widow I can tell you I've never experienced such wild inconsistency with my aim in other games. From headshotting spiderman every time to having trouble hitting groot.

Chuds lost
Wokegods won
Just kidding, Rivals is woke too lol

>>719253021
This. People just hate Blizzard, which is kind of justified.

>>719273538
any reason why? but yeah i'd assume so too simply by disney association

>>719267207
And both are trash compared to Deadlock

>>719253759
Jeff Kaplan entire run was "comfortable".
>Same events every year
>New no modes that stayed
>Esports expecting players to support it for skins
>Empty promises PVE mode and more
Activision had to step in and jew it up which ironically saved it

>>719269284
proof that balancing for movementzooms is a death sentence

>>719270327
they can be when the character in question can kill you in a second

>>719275047
I think Anon is referring to the Marvel Rivals era. It definitely lit a fire under Blizzard' asses and they released
>A female hero for gooners and a male chink to bait the Chinese audience
>New LoL/Deadlock type stadium mode
>Major rebalance and perks into the game
>More gooner skins

It's a good example of why competition is healthy and monopolies suck.

>>719275532
>female hero for normal people
shes (((asian))) so they did as much dei shit as they could. the community managers for the game also ran guerilla marketing to ship her with the brownoid venture so the trannies dont get upset. thats not a hero for straight people.
>male twink for chinks
how do u come to such conclusion, it's for the mlp pedo fags that frequent the overwatch reddit, the same western cucks that love s76 getting fucked in the ass by reaper, not chinks. that hero has nothing to do with chinks whatsoever
>the rest
might as well not exist. ow will forever be known for 6v6 2cp and payload pushing, not some gay ass tranny ass nigger ass gamemodes sharted out from arcade mode.

>>719275532
>It's a good example of why competition is healthy and monopolies suck.
A most terrible reduction to make. Competition may occasionally guarantee competence, but it doesn't guarantee good or greatest results.
Monopolies in any area aren't inherently predisposed to poor results. Imagine if there were 10 chink corps competing. Yeah, they'll compete alright, but if they only care about slop, they'll make slop.
Seeing as games are art, the issue is not competition, but rather a lack of care.

>>719253021
/thread

>>719276461
tranny logic:
>clicking shields in overwatch
OMG EPIC SLAY QUEEN
>clicking heroes in rivals
omg nazi grifter islamophobic #freepalestine

>>719252742
Did you really need a plebbit screencap for this thread?
Couldn't you screenshot the Forbes article or steamcharts?
>>719253354
Based trvke.
Blizzard sucks fat cocks covered with smegma but OW is (was) much more competently designed than any of its competitors.
>>719273538
The game sucks but there is nothing woke about it.

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>>719270054
this is why dive will unfortunately never be popular when it's the only reason to even play overwatch because the average player just wants to stand at the chokepoint and press m1 all day

>>719269531
if you look in game, they show you who is on steam and who is on battlenet
it varies a bit, but my observation is that the rough proportions are about 1/5 people play on steam
obviously console players aren't included

>>719252742
Game uninronically died with Rocket Nerfs

>>719276660
i see the bronze players are posting again

>>719259193
Should have been a tank

Mantis is so fucking cute but I suck ass playing her.

>>719265893
Modern devs couldnt hold 90's valve's jock

>>719252742
>FOTM meme game is almost dead a year later
No shit

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>EOMM
>No good casual game modes
>20 something Mini passes over actual content
>Balance is abysmal and is just like the worst aspects Overwatch
>No placements in comp so its a mess every new season
>optomized liked shit because of UE5
Also there are too many DPS when people told them during alpha they needed more tank/supports but i kind of understand that certain popular Marvel characters just wouldnt work outside of being DPS and they need to add them to keep people interested
Yet at least one masculine support besides Adam wouldve been nice like Silver Surfer, Forge or Beast

>>719266618
Rivals is just overwatch but the girls are hot
Sorry the truth hurts retard. There are so many 1:1 overwatch heroes in rivals. The gameplay feels extremely similar. The only saving grace for rivals is the women being hot

the 24 hours peak of rivals is still higher on steam than OW by a wide margin
the journo is just shilling
and the schizos who don't play the game start bitching and moaning why it is not "successful'

>>719266767
Every role should be team reliant so then retards would actually be forced to work with the team.

marvel rivals sucks
playing with 4 duelists + 1 tank + 1 support is so stupid

>>719266669
How are Vanguards like Hulk miserable to play?

>>719278958
Its almost like overwatch has been our for years on another platform
crazy innit

>>719266669
For me it was when they went from 6v6 to 5v5. 6 man teams allowed some variety in tank picks. After they switched to 5v5 and people kept pestering me to play whatever's currently perceived as meta since I'm now the only one in that role I quickly lost my desire to play.

>>719252742
>what did overwatch do right? what did rivals do wrong?
Ugly whamen

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>>719252742
no one who matters cares. get a job.

Been GM in both games
Overwatch is simply more fun and less annoying, also it actually runs well - Rivals still runs like absolute shit

>>719253806
stupid fuckin piece of shit character youre playing

>>719281928
How are the Rivals women ugly?

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>>719252742
How is this an actual article? It's literally not even true.

>>719284213
Doesn't matter, all that matters is we can use it to shitpost and scream at each other and pretend we give a fuck about these games we hate so we can manufacture outrage and remain alive.

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>>719264210
Don't forget all the smurf accounts.
I'd say 30% OF sub-GM accounts are smurfs.

>>719253021
>The only thing Rivals ever had going for it was coom
Overwatch characters like widowmaker and tracer were topping the porn search engines long before Rivals came out

>>719287013
now they've been bastardized for the former to have a gigantic weiner and the latter to show off her feet or have intercourse with doomfist. the trannies even managed to ruin the real art of overwatch.

>>719264210
>Is the matchmakin
Is whole ass genre that has an issue.
You cant never know what happens fully in the map as it is fps and you will feel shit will be out ofnyour control.
Is extremly dependant on roles with no creativity or much player expression.
Heros/characters are so simple it becomes boring playing for lonng sessions
Which leaves only winning as the only source of enjoyment in the long run on this shit ass genre.

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>>719253021

>esl filename

>>719276148
>shes (((asian)))
No she isn't she's white. Not even going to read the rest of your post since you don't know what you're talking about.

>>719266586
hey don’t say that

>>719269049
the OG 3D porn gooner game is Elizabeth from Bioshock Infinite

>>719252890
>Said the soulslopper

>>719253387
>end of game's life vs start of game's life

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> Steam Player Coonter
> When both games are console games

I hate this so much

>>719252742
I don't think anyone really played this game. Wasn't it all just porn addicts?

>>719265582
Nobody I know who plays Overwatch did this lol.

It makes no difference what launcher you use so if you already played Overwatch you'd keep using Bnet. Why are Steam sisters so obsessed with a fucking client?

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>>719252742
>OW: new season comes out
>MR: current season is almost ending
OW players are really trying to justify this

give partially nude skins and playerbase rockets for a week or two minimum
male and female, since there are so many women who play

Noob

>>719264210
>It's the matchmaking
Why is it so fucking common now? Before tf2 had the closest thing to perfect matchmaking but now matches are all steam roll from one side.
Counter strike also suffers this on casual where a team will often have people that are way more skilled which also results on one sided steam rolls, i often join matches with teams having a huge difference in prowess. Why not just balance teams?

>>719289624
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>>719288790
You fags were spamming steamcharts bragging about player numbers for weeks.

>>719279260
>moving the goalpost
overtrannies are so sad

I don't get why people like hero shooters so much.

>>719252742
soulless bug people (or chinks as i like to call them) can only copy, they can't create something novel. the problem with that is their copies are always inferior, they don't understand what they are copying, only enough to make it look similar on a surface level.

>>719289941
worth

i just hate how boring support ults are in marvel rivals.