>game has two routesWhich path, western man?
How about a robot arm with blue glowy bits
>>719277909>play Final Fantasy Tactics>acquire robot>robot is immune to all White magic because it doesn't believe in godkino
Stop drawing these stupid fucking blobs
>>719277909Nature
>>719278007cringekino
>OH MY GODdo christcucks actually say this?
In a world with magic and gods, you'd be stupid not to pick it and THEN science.
>>719277909Call me a special snowflake, but both at the same time because techno-magic is always really fucking cool.
>>719277909i hate that its never bothmagitech is cool as fuck
>>719278168If gods require my service and/or my obedience in exchange for power I'll consider the secular alternatives first
>>719277909>RELIGIONAll the major religions frown at magic and witchcraft though.
>Not combining the twoTake the Ad Mech pill, brother.
>>719278186>techno-magic[Techno Union national anthem blasts in the background]
THISIS THE HANDOF SCIENCEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JADQHB9dLjA
>>719278167>OH MY SCIENCE
>>719278232In D&D at least it's not so much that you're working for the god, but that your personal beliefs align with what that specific God represents to a degree that the God takes notice of you personally, and empowers you to be able to better spread your shared message.
>>719277909Why would he change the arm that's fine?
>>719277909Isn't that just DMC5 / DMC4 ?
I like when you are perfectly capable of using Science and Magic both but can refuse to do either one out of principle.
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>>719277909which path has the cute waifu
>>719277909Why not both?
>>719277909If religion actually gave you magic powers then science wouldn't even exist at that point.
>>719277909The coolest characters are usually magitek but it's rarely available for some reason
>>719277909
>>719277909Science is my religion.
>>719278639science IS religion's magic powers
>>719278764Science was my religion.Now religion is my science.
>>719278639>One faction is God's Chosen and gets magic powers>Other faction uses technology to get revenge against God.
>>719277909>religion>magic powersYou only get hopium and it does jack shit.
>>719277909Both, and don't get lazy when writing either.There should be religious scientists. There should also be iconoclasts, heretics, seekers and atheists among them.There should be more than just one religion, and the various religions should be patrons of the sciences. Maybe they should be deniers of some sciences.There should be overlapping conflicts of interests and ideas about how things work among these groups.
What about anime?
>>719277909Both.Finally the Christian Scientists will be able to calculate your trajectory into hell through mathematical numerology.
>>719278605I also pic both science and religion
>>719277909final boss is a mix of the two
>>719278836Yup.
>>719278268they all have alternatives. magic is condemned because it leads one to believing they are in control of forces and not ultimately god, and thats idolatry (like science)if you want religious magic you are talking people who can produce miracles on demand which is a thing in the religious view it basically works like clerics in d&d
What god wouldnt want his children to create technological utopia alongside his blessing? Religion-powered technology is beautiful.
>>719277909the third one is porn
>>719279282>if you want religious magic you are talking people who can produce miracles on demand which is a thing in the religious view it basically works like clerics in d&dIn fantasy terms, The Gurus, the Young Man and Elder Paisios basically describes a meeting between a group of warlocks and a cleric.
>>719279282>God creates universe (magic)>God creates humans in his image, therefore they also possess magic>Humans get angry when you try to use magicThey are holding us back
>>719279481Tower of Babel would like a word with you. The more independent people become, the less people have incentive to seek out God and pray. So people have to be just independent enough to survive but not so independent that they decide God is unnecessary
>>719279135>ultrasBlack Tem0lars or Grey Knights would have been better examples. Most SM chapters do not follow the imperial creed in it's current form, but something closer to the original, which held the Emperor as the pinnacle of humanity, but explicitly not a god.
>>719277909>both science and religion can't give you back your missing arm, but can augment your existing one
>>719279630>I give you my unconditional love>UNDER ONE CONDITION
Religion:>begging for power from a greater being>can't do shit if he doesnt say his bedtime prayersScience:>self made man>can make giant mech>manipulates nature itself to his advantage
>>719278038>On Marc Singer's first day of filming, Billy Jacobi was filming the scene where young Dar first learns that he could control animals. The bear happened to be a Russian bear, and the only bear working in Hollywood at the time. As soon as he came out, the bear broke loose and attacked his handler, sending the rest of the crew fleeing into nearby vehicles for safety. As soon as the bear was recaptured and the handler was carried off for medical attention, the crew turned and told Marc that they were ready to film his scene.
>>719277909I fucking hate these zoomer arts
>>719279135religion is heresy>t.old man in a chair
>>719279630The Tower of Babel is a Jewish fairytale to explain why people speak different languages if they were all descendants of Noah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-x4ttQioNwAlways science. Mankind overcomes. The indomitable human spirit.
>>719277909Religion is only a cope to make people think their suffering has meaning. A lot of the good science stuff is kept away from the peasants.
>>719277909science is a religious endeavor
>>719278268Your game story religion doesn't have to be one practiced by irl people. You could literally just make the whole thing based off how cute the deity is.
okay but consider Technology/Nature/Alien
>>719277909What's the response to religious institutions founding the modern university system and contributing heavily to various fields of science? God gave you a mind and the capacity to reason, so why wouldn't you use it?>>719279630The Tower of Babel was wrong because man was trying to usurp heaven, something that isn't his and something to which he has no right.
>>719279774>the only bear working in Hollywood at the time>at the time
Why not both?
>>719278459unless you're a cleric, then you're genuinely doing voluntary labor for them
>>719279774The eagle also apparently fucking hated its handler and they had to force it to fly to get any footage
>>719279852But that retard created an extremely ineffective and energy-intensive way to do... what he could basically already do. Not to mention needing a shitton of poor mutated fucks for it to work (not like he was breeding new ones to replace them).
>>719277909Magic 100% has hotter women.
>>719277909>ScienceThe capricious lunatics in the state will have backdoors to disable my arm>ReligionOnly god can judge me unworthy of my limbsEasy choice.
>>719280804That what I was talking about. I do not acknowledge the existence of the favored soul class because I don't play 3.trash edition.
>>719277909i wish i could draw
I'd pick religion because it doesn't involve losing your arm.
>>719281203Pick up a pencil and start drawing, fool.I used to love to draw when I was a kid and only just picked it back up again recently. It takes a lot of practice, but practicing drawing can be fun. Make yourself do it.
>>719277909>take funny meme>redraw it with shitty comic style that looks worse>wrong arm replacedwhy do they do this
>>719281195>yes I wish to personally spread this cosmic being's message far and wide>but our values just mesh together, it's not a working relationship kinda thingcleric is THE designated god janny class
>>719278639science would just be the study of magic
>>719281257No you are still a one-armed layabout, you are just choosing between a cybernetic or ether augmentation.
>>719278639>>719281362ye best start believin' in ghost stories
>>719278007FFT really pissed me off with that shitLike who the fuck has low faith when you can LITERALLY SEE magic shit happening>huh well if I don't believe in it then it doesn't affect me as muchHOW DOES THAT WORK
>>719281426YER IN ONE
>>719281456Maybe faith in one's own skepticism works as a sort of counter magic.
>>719277909Jewry. Defeats everything.
>>719281257The flesh is weak
>>719281257>You’d kill your only son if you really love meSure about picking religion?
>>719281456If magic only does anything when you believe in it, it's not actually that impressive, so you're right to be skeptical.
>>719278445Yup you're being mocked. Does this bother you?
>>719277909Is this a religion where I have to suck a god's dick in exchange for power or one where the power is within me and I have to train to master it?
>>719281456Maybe the fact that you can literally see magic shit happening is just a window for the player, and the low faith characters themselves can't actually detect anything unusual. It's like a sixth sense sort of thing, a mental blockade keeping them from recognizing the effect.
>>719281748>Giant block of ice hits me in the face>Musta been the wind...
>>719281804>Damn they got some good supply lines to field ice artillery out in this heat
>>719278167No they don't, since this is invoking the Lord's name in vain
>>719277909imagine unironically thinking that anything man-made would be more powerful than the product of your faith in the Divine. Couldn't be me
>>719282078free is the most dangerous price of all, I'll live by the testaments best I can but this jesus stuff feels like a honey trap by lucy down below
Religion. There's a decent chance I will get to have a real robot arm in my lifetime, but there's no way I will ever get to be an irl cleric who invokes literal divine miracles to smite my enemies.
>>719278038>roidsscience it is
neither because i'm not a fucking casual
>>719281804You have the logic backwards.>don't believe in magic>get hit by giant block of ice>all other characters: "holy shit he just took 0 damage from that ice!">me: "what ice?"
>>719277909I choose to put sawdust in the soup.
>>719281713Not at all, I fucking LOVE science
>>719281403The magic one would work the same as a normal hand, maybe able to catch ghosts.The robot one would come with a warranty, the software could stop working at random, someone could hack into it etc
>>719282686But the magic one can't play MP3s.
>>719282078I think a few kids in Minneapolis have just found out how something man made can be more powerful than faith in the divine.
>>719277909I almost always choose the religion path because they are usually painted as le evil followers
>>719277909Is religion even a real thing?If you're religious you just think your beliefs are true, no different from any other belief.Some might say religion is about that which cannot be proved, but not every religious person agrees. Some of them think their religion is verifiable by evidence or logic, so how do you differentiate their religious belief from non-religious belief?
>>719280705Boris the bear was filming at Italy at the time and Ivan was doing a commercial for a brand of mattresses in Brazil, so yeah.
>>719282845What an ugly thing to say about dead children.
>>719277909Transhumanism usually deals with concepts like the soul and religion.
>>719282251I think it's arrogant to assume that you can "purchase" eternal life with the things you do in less than 100 years.
>>719277909both
>>719282845what happened>
>>719283047it's not like I was alloted any more time than that, still a more reasonable cost than saying thanks to some prophet once
>>719283047life is just the free trial of eternity
>>719278268Not Judaism.They have battle scribes.
>>719281456You dummy, magic is a natural phenomenon like gravity or electricity.There's no Zeus throwing lightning bolts or Mystra making magic work.
I choose the "ancient lost technology that's so advanced and esoteric that it's indistinguishable from magic" path.
>>719278167>do christcucks actually say this?
>>719282895>no different from any other belief.The results of the people believing in different beliefs differ. Outcomes are more important than anything else. The retard who does everything right is better than the expert who fails.
>>719278894Isn't that basically Nu Wolfenstein?
>>719281456A world where a God or gods exist and you have atheists drive me nuts because you have 100% verifiable proof the being(s) exist, everything they say is 100% true, and the only reason you'd not believe in them at that point is out of defiance to basically die a true death or spite. You have actual proof staring you in the face and you just ignore it.The same goes for worlds where faith actually quantifiably does something because that implies what you believe is in real in order to manifest it. Or equally stupid is worlds where you can physically visit the equivalent of Heaven or Hell and the MCs just go on their merry way.>>719278167No, because it's taking the Lord's name in vain. The only people who do it want to do it because it's forbidden or just because they're assholes.
>>719282845>>719283402
>>719283369No you see magic is fine when you call it "holy power"
>>719278894
>>719282845god hates catholics
>>719282895well yeahreligion that works is no longer religion, and will eventually be part of science
>>719283458>faith actually quantifiably does somethingthat's called magic idiot, everyone can do thatit's just natural interactions between human willpower and the weave that exists in naturethe clerics just don't realize they're doing the magic themselvesnext you're gonna tell me that there's a god who makes magnets work
>>719281257you gain something stronger in return thowhich makes it cooler
>>719281456
>>719282964It's okay, it's just a school shooting. It's the American way.
>>719282964we have a shooting have day who cares also what they were doing at the time of the shooting does make it alittle funny
>>719281257Anon....
>>719277909This isn't mine
>>719282845Not at all.People like you focus way too much on this physical plane we are in.Literal psued behavior.
>>719277909bothhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztzq05IzYds
>>719277909Does the second path allow me to channel the belief of millions through a network of artifices in order to mass-produce precisely calibrated miracles to be sold at a profit?
>>719281456Never play Stellaris
>>719277909We do both in seperate playthroughs.
>>719285785The fuck is faith going to do for you?
>>719283402nick touches kids
>god will save m-ACK!
>>719277909Neither, I'll just use my fists and feet
>>719277909Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
>>719285785kek, god never heals amputees
>>719277909Mythology, not "Religion". Religions can be scientific and non-mythological, or both, or neither.
>>719278639Dumbest take on this board right now. If people had magic powers, then science would inevitably account for them.
>>719277909>From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind cling to your flesh as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved. For the Machine is Immortal.
>>719279831>NoahIt's funny how 99% of people who talk about the Bible get all the details from the very first book wrong. Do you think Adam and Eve were the only two Humans as well?
>>719290638If magical abilities were entirely contained inside modern science it wouldn't be magic. Magic inherently implies something outside the regular system.
>>719279794Looks millennial but ok
>>719290754>Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science
>>719280774What do you mean "both"? This image just has two religions.
>>719288586>You look up to the clouds>"It's me, Ned.">Your enemies die of lightning strikes and heart attacks.
>>719277909So we're relabeling magic as religion now?
>>719290876How many religions am I holding up now?
>>719288586Vidya has proven over and over again that>faith in the power of friendship>faith in humanity>faith in love>faith in yourself>faith in your penisare all far more powerful than any god or machine.
If God is real, all loving and all powerful why does he allow evil to happen?
>>719288586Godhood.
>>719278639The dichotomy of science being non-magical and non-religious was only ever distinguished by rationalists. They were literally one and the same. Sociology and psychology is considered a science despite it being incredibly faulty and replete with the crisis of replication that the scientific method doesn't really apply to that field.
>>719288586It's the root of bravery.
>Loses left arm>Invests in science/religion for right armGiganewb
>>719278007more like white magic works on living organismsand a robot is bits and bytes of metal and electricity.
>>719277909>loads up ak-47>go ahead, throw a fireball at me
>>719293830https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jssvrIBLZ5w
>>719293830I cast a luck debuff to make your gun jam and slip out of your fingers onto your toe.
>>719277909Fuck your zoomer shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhTL3sOINKY
>>719277909Nine Sols is basically this>Cat people so scientifically advanced they can build FTL ships, a cryosleep system with an integrated Matrix style virtual world, and fucking Dyson spheres>Their culture was defined by war, religion and scientific advancements>The Tao spirituality contradicts the persue of knowledge and power at any cost, the universe will always seek balance, the cats broke this balance>Their insistence to survive and advance no matter the cost fucks up their homeworld and brings about a plague that kills most of their race>Thanks to his Tao attuned sister, the edgy atheist, scientist MC becomes connected to the Tao world>He is forced to comune with the Spiritual world, despite his edgy skepticism >In the end his must choose between continuing the fruitless pursuit of survival and advancement at all costs, or to accept that is the nature of all things to eventually end.
>>719277909I only trust the limitless potential of mankind
>>719295631Reject scienceEmbrace the Tao and living in harmony with nature and the universeEmbrace Heng
>>719280774Based
>>719291395 >Ned Based storm deity moment. "You called down the lightning, now reap the thunder, sinners." This is why divine retribution is always more cinematic than a railgun – you get judgment, drama, and a cool voiceover.
>>719293830>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cZqRzHnI8s
>>719277909Lost an arm but got a shitty replacement that doesn't feel shit.Kept his arm and gains super natural powers. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
>>719283458>>719281748>>719281657I think the effects of "faith" in this context stem more from your level of worship/devotion.Maybe you're not about that, but you still know the gods exist. Maybe you don't give a fuck or couldn't be arsed to care, you're busy being a cool scientist. Maybe you don't like the gods and want to rebel against them, who knows.
>>719277909>religionYou mean magic.
>>719296149in taoism you're supposed to drink your own jizz or risk losing your chi
>>719283458Anon, I'm pretty sure in those settings atheists don't worship the god. It's not that they don't think they exist. Can you give an example of what you're talking about?
>>719295631>continuing the fruitless pursuit of survival and advancement at all costssounds cool
>>719279774I'm amazed the dude didn't quit on the spot.The money must be that good.
>>719277909>fantasy setting set thousands of years after a space faring age with mechas>technology is relatively primitive bordering on Steampowered mixed with magic, occasional boosts from ancient tech here and there>places that are called ancient temple are often just gigantic mechs and colony shipsThe most kino setting.
>>719296149>>719295631kill yourselves furniggers
>>719277909Why not both at the same time>>719298585lol
>>719277909I like the idea of religion paths but they're always terribly implemented.Similarly, I find science paths to be fucking BORING aesthetically and story-wise but the mechanics generally favor my playstyle.
>>719297598That's a different sect your thinking of. The Fangshi don't engage in semen recycling. Although... Ji...
>>719277909Both
>>719278167>OH MY EPSTEIN Do MAGAniggers... really..?
>religionDon't you mean spirit?
Science is a religion. Perhaps you meant technology.Regardless, 2 paths means 2 plays.
>>719277909this game had pretty fun science and magic paths.science was better overall, but magic had some great stuff.they added a hybrid path in the last update, still need to get around to playing that
>>719277909From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel, I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Their kind cling to their flesh, as if it will not decay and fail them. One day the crude biomass that they call a temple will wither, and they will beg our kind to save them. But I am already saved, for the machine is immortal
>>719293691nothe lower your faith the less magic heals/hurts you in FFTthe robot has 0 faith and Atheist trait so magic doesnt affect it at allway to show you've never played the game at all
>>719297490In settings where both exist, the line between arcane magic and divine magic get surprisingly thin when you look closely. Then you have stuff like Lord of the Rings where ALL magic is divine magic straight from God himself.
>>719278167>>719282027That's not actually what "TAKING the Lord's name in vain" means. It's actually making a covenant for false reason. The Church is considered the bride of Christ. In a marriage you take the name of the husband, I.E. God.Taking that name in vain would be becoming a priest for personal gain, wealth, power, molesting children, or even running away and changing lifestyles. It's not just saying the word God.
>>719277909For me, it's Religion outcome through Science means.
>>719281456>"Magic comes from god and our connection. Give more money to one of the most powerful and corrupt organisations in Ivalice because god wants you to.">"Hmm... That's suspicious. I'm not so sure that's how that works.">gain immunity to their magicHow do you not understand this?
>>719278646Playing as garystus aint fun
>>719277909separating science and religion is a completely modern conceptscience is trying to understand and explain the world and God created the world so science is necessary to understand God better
>>719283458>A world where a God or gods exist and you have atheists drive me nuts because you have 100% verifiable proof the being(s) exist, everything they say is 100% true, and the only reason you'd not believe in them at that point is out of defiance to basically die a true death or spite. You have actual proof staring you in the face and you just ignore it.It's the paradox of God-proof. As any entity becomes more powerful, it becomes more capable of faking evidence for being more powerful than it actually is. An entity capable of "proving" to (you) that it is omnipotent and omniscient would be reached long before it actually is omnipotent and omniscient, so it's unfalsifiable.These beings maybe exist, but their statements are only maybe true, even if backed with proof.>The same goes for worlds where faith actually quantifiably does something because that implies what you believe is in real in order to manifest it. Or equally stupid is worlds where you can physically visit the equivalent of Heaven or Hell and the MCs just go on their merry way.Maybe faith works entirely off of human belief independent of the thing-in-itself.
>>719292223Row Row Fight the Power
>>719301840Science is trying to understand the world, but religion is just a baseless assumption about the world. They're not contradictory in the sense that dinosaurs don't disprove God, but they are absolutely not the same conceptually.
>>719302181They're both about understandingbthe workd around us, but one is asking how? and other why?Science will tell you you're alive because of some chemical reactions in clumps of carbon and oxygen making up your cells. But can't tell you what's the point of you being alive.
>>719302418Religion isn't a hypothesis, anon. You are not meant to test God, but have faith in Him and His words. It's a prescription.
>>719277909Satanism
>>719283458pics or it didn't happenJust because you have seen europe and say it exists doesn't mean I have to believe it exists.
>>719281456Maybe magic has like antimemetic effects if you have low faith. But that backfires sometimes to just make you imune.Like solipism autism.
Christianity built the west, atheism destroyed it
>>719282078What if the devine admires your trist for self improvement and knowlege and gives magic powers to the robot arm dude as well.
>>719302892>paganism built the west, christcucks destroyed itFixed
>>719278038>nature : put a snake on your shoulder
>>719302892The jewish cult destroyed Rome and then plunged the world into the dark ages.
>>719298803>still haven't actually beaten Laika>listening to the soundtrack on repeat insteadFuark. I don't have enough time to game these days. Maybe I'll get it on Sunday.
>>719285785>I don't need PERFORMANCE or GAMES>I've got KOJIMA
>>719295631>fruitless pursuit of survivalSo the message is "dying is deep"
>>719281456Acknowledging a deity's existence != worshipping it.
>>719281456>Like who the fuck has low faith when you can LITERALLY SEE magic shit happeningIn any setting where people use magic it's only natural to assume that a sufficiently powerful mage can and likely has LARPd as a God. The question is in whether someone is worthy of being worshipped just because they claim they are.
>>719278459What classes/settings are you actually talking about? Most divine classes across all editions are direct agents of Gods and explicitly are both empowered by them and follow their edicts. 5e Paladins are the exception since they're empowered by their oaths with no real explanation how it works (tho I assume they're directly drawing power from Domains or are basically mini-schizo gods themselves).
>>719290754Magic inherently has to have the capacity for being studied otherwise the whole idea of a scholarly wizard goes out the fucking window. With sufficient research magic would inevitably be folded into science unless mages were intentionally working to sabotage research efforts as gatekeeping.
>>719277909Enjoyable FMA reference.
>>719303885*breaks your spine*
>>719303885It's more about where you draw the line at the price you're willing to pay to keep living. Is your life really so precious it justifies constructing a planet-wide breeding camp so you have a whole race to cull like sheep to prolong your own longevity?
>>719278552no unless you count demonic powers as religion
>>719305560>Is your life really so precious it justifies constructing a planet-wide breeding camp so you have a whole race to cull like sheep to prolong your own longevity?noUNLESS IT'S A FARM
>>719302418>But can't tell you what's the point of you being alivei never understood this.for your life specifically to have a point, it would mean some intelligent being had to plan out your existence, which necessitates a deity of some sort.this presumes your life has a specific point to begin with, that it intrinsically has a path set out for you or something like that.you can't just start out with a presumption like that, you'd have to start by asking "does each life has intrinsic meaning"?personally, i lean more on the "no, you have to build a meaning to it yourself" but i'm curious on what you people think
>>719278836Yup, only goys don't know this.
I remember seeing some kind of giant gauntlet with a magic sphere in the palm that did like, gravity magic shitAnyone know what im talking about?I cant remember what it was from
>>719282027"God" is not God's name, you retard. That's why people say God instead of Yahweh, Jehovah, YHVH or whatever.
>>719277909this trope is more kino if you swap the names
>>719281456>Like who the fuck has low faith when you can LITERALLY SEE magic shit happeningim literally using a computer right now and i dont believe electricity is realwhats your point?
>>719305045What you're describing is extremely setting dependent. In some like LOTR all magic is just miracles granted by God to aid his favored servants. Most fantasy RPGs also have a distinction between arcane and divine magic, the latter of which is given out by god fiat more than any level of study.
>>719278639>Ifanon i...
If both accomplish the same thing and feel the same to play as, they're simply aesthetic. What would make them interesting is the stuff you have to do to compensate. If you're a cyborg, you need to do repairs and maintenance. If the arm has more than superstrength (which you can kind of BS with pseudo-science power of leverage), like it has thermal abilities and can charge up and fire lasers, then it's going to take a whole lot of energy. Maybe you can sap away your own biological energy when running low for some final attack but have your character suffer debilitating health drawbacks. But upgrading would require finding specialists and parts. As you further your upgrades and gradually enhance more of your body, you become less and less human, being reduced to electronic impulses in a highly efficient machine.For religious powers, there should be in-game requirements to maintain them, like doing a ritual in fixed intervals of time. If you're tied to some dark god, maybe he requires regular sacrifice, and nights of the full moon are special. Maybe your character's mind and free will can slowly be sapped away as you devote yourself to your god and your powers deepen. This could be especially good if your god wills you to stop pursuing your original goal and do contrary actions. Forsake him and your powers stop growing and you are damned and hunted by other followers. Find ancient religious texts to further deepen your understanding and closeness to the god. At max power, you're their avatar, you have ceased to exist as a separate entity.
>>719290754>there is no magic in harry potter
Are psychic abilities considered science or magic?
>>719279797>>t.old man in a chairwith a literal glowing halo and surrounded by angelsand who also had a son who was an angel and can do magicand whos followers get faith based powers that are not warp powerswhos gonna tell him?
>>719290754retards yaping "magic is just undiscovered science" damaged both science beyond repair.the fundamentals of boths are incompatible.
>>719283387>taftaj getting hotterthe goodest timelinegod i want to massage her little cock while i shoot massive loads all over her face and chestfuck...
>>719279481>What god wouldnt want his children to create technological utopiaThe only utopia is Heaven. Earthly kingdoms always fail.
>>719307461He's saying that magic that originates from science isn't actually magic. But I'm not sure if that's the case for harry potter since you're either born being able to do magic or you can't, as far as I know.
>>719291041>have you tried turning it off and on again>>no i have 84 more sacred prayers to recite before i get to that divine ritual
>>719279713God's love is unconditional, humans just have the right to refuse it. It isn't your doctor's fault if you die because you refused to take the medicine he gave you.
>>719299690Uh... shut up.
>>719279769>ReligionDivine knowledge given by God>ScienceDivine knowledge given by God.
>>719307687yes but they literally treat magic like a scienceatoms dont originate from science, they simply existthrough science we can observe them, learn about them, control them and build new types of science with that control.in HP they use science and magic to create new magicthey are not discovering a spell that always existed, they are using scientific method to create new spells and magic formula and magic theory.
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>>719307787Based
>>719277909Tech Priest.Adeptus Mechanicus 4 life. For only in death does duty end
>>719299690>The Church is considered the bride of Christis that why they are allowed to fuck kids and no one cares?
>>719277909Am I retarded or is it the wrong arm?Is this a metaphor for how the path to religious enlightenment and the never-ending march of scientific advancement both equally blind us to the real issues?
>>719307889I'm glad scientists have never been outed as pedophiles...
>>719307864This person has absolutely no idea about history.
>>719307864If you didn't want to be genocided, you should've been more reasonable and less superstitious.
>>719307997He was there for the food, also it was that faggot Stephen King
>>719285785The magic one was faith, stupid. What do you think religion means?
>>719307848Yeah so that's mixing science and magics. It's an abomination, but it's not exactly describing the scenario of science MADE magic.
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>>719278894isn't that just raildex
>>719277909science obviouslyreligion will ruin your life if you think about anything other than religionwhile science is very accepting even if youre religious or an atheist
>>719308307zaddy
>>719277909>God is real>human undisputedly created by said God and He favor them greatly>demons roam the street eating people>still choose to be atheistI will never get it.
>>719307997didn't it turn out to be a dude who just shared his name
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>>719278836Shut up jobber>>719302028Interesting perspective, I never thought of it like that. So theoretically, would there be no way to prove you are omnipotent?
>>719308057shalom rabbi
>>719307864>ruled over of
>>719308247im going to filter your comment so i dont have to admit that im wrongi hope you understand.
>>719307864>become enlightened>realize the only path to peace is warbased
ultimately, "science arm" will just be a regular arm, the progress on lab grown limbs is slow but exists and will eventually be cheaper than the robotic arms we currently see all over youtube.
>>719307997Turns out the buffet and handicap services are 5 star here.
>>719308743shut up faggoti bet you and OP visit the same glory hole
>>719277909Why not both?Genetics were discovered by a Catholic monk. Maybe the neo-hyper-church can grow you a new arm out of tree of knowledge DNA or something.
>>719277909I choose gunYour turn
>>719277909>not combining both for magitech
>>719277909Science because I do not want to submit to and serve a god.I only serve myself.
>>719308674DON'T DO IT ANON, I LOVE YOU
>>719278220Try Aground
>>719278268its both fantasy so it makes sense tho
>>719277909Call them both gay, break the science soifag's arm and drop a piece of it into the samsara to clog the mechanism and break down the wheel, fucking up the whole cycle forever. That way I won't have to reply to such threads ever again.
40k has both and its cool
>>719280821How did they make the handler fly?
>>719278167OH MY MRNA VACCINE!
because I am the greatest magician of azeroth, I chose to create a fantomatic immobile wooden arm that I can put on a lgbtq rainbow sling at all time. It glows pink in the dark which casts fear and respect to my enemies.
>>719307225With a capital it is.
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>>719278007>Golem bro protects him anyway
>>719290754I mean i'd think of it kinda like modern sports. Some people have a natural predisposition for it but research can bring more out of it.Ultimately, intelligence and research isn't enough to turn a scientist into a muscled up beast.
>>719283085o the usual, some kids shit and killed with thoughts and prayers going around
>>719283458I think in these worlds, atheism often stems from the angle of seeing a "god" as some kind of mortal being that while powerful, is not all mighty and all knowing. Chrono Trigger is an easy example where Lavos is literally just some cosmic animal that feeds on planets but ultimately its massive power is tapped into by the ancient society, leading to worshipping it as a god
>Science>Crusadin'>Pagan demon summoningThis game had such cool branching upgrades.
>>719281456It make sense to me.It's like if you took an M16 back 10,000 years ago, everyone would think you were a God.You'd think magic is some ability with strengths and weaknesses that can be countered compared to prostrating yourself to something that is omnipotent.
>>719278665Came here to post him lol
>>719293932If it's an ak-47 then you wouldn't even need that spell.
>>719293830>detonates your magazine with a cantripWizard time, bitches
>>719277909Which is more kino?
fuck yeah, science! *cries*
>>719277909Science and religion are the same, aren't they?
>>719282476or alternatively at low faith instead of zero faith>get hit by giant block of ice>faithfags: "holy fuck he just took that ice block like a champ">me: "guys that was a fucking snowball, c'mon"
>skim through all the posts made at 2 amwhy do americans treat science and religion as mutually exclusive thingsjust another reason to fight each other? if you want to fight someone, fight the old farts in power
>>719315989>magic scales with insight>high insight also increases effectiveness of magic against yourself>powerful mages espousing their proficiency in battle to make other wizards more susceptible to their attackskino
>>719277909>lose left arm>science and religion change your right arm, ignoring the actual problem entierely
>>719278038you just know
>>719315974Left is forced kino, right is fake kino
>>719279123religionmany things in modern anime are inspired by shinto and buddhist mythology
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>>719277909Late to the party but I need you to know that magic is not religion and, in fact, was and is still being fought against by both science and religion who keep pretending they are the only two opposites while relegating magic to the realm of superstition and medieval stupidity
>>719277909I already have science in real life, so I'll pick religion fantasy path for the game fantasy world
>>719278220Requiem
>>719303002artificial self-improvement is frowned upon by the gods
>>719277909BOTH YOU DOUBLE NIGGER
>>719316947the premise is you only have one arm though
>>719316974>NOT REMOVING BOTHLMAO CASUL
>Inquisition bans magic hundreds of years ago>D&D explicitly separates faith from magic>zoomers now think they are both the same
>>719277909what's up with the whole science vs religion thing? outside of Stephen Hawking every scientist ever was super religious. some even tried to conclude that god has to be real
>>719277982>religionYou mean magic?
>>719279123Taoism is not a religion.
>>719281672>Gunning down priests and clerics with a gatlingun
>>719281748>the low faith characters themselves can't actually detect anything unusual. It's like a sixth sense sort of thing, a mental blockade keeping them from recognizing the effect.this is true IRL, too.all fundamental laws of science make it clear "something" can't come from "nothing", and yet we are here. The mental gymnastics necessary to be an atheist is literally "well, everything we know and have observed for all of human history is obviously completely wrong then, dumb christcuck".To say you don't believe in individual religions is one thing but to completely deny the existence of any deity and thinking this is the highest it goes is just silly to me
>>719317263I disagree
>>719317159Stephen Hawking was also not a fan of philosophy in general. But the psyop came from the New Atheists that really hated Christianity and Islam (but not Judaism).
>>719315974Well, I sort of worked as sort of a techpriest once.
>>719317298>all fundamental laws of science make it clear "something" can't come from "nothing",Pretty sure there are physics theories where that can happen.
>>719317298Ok, but how does that absolve them of the crime of putting us on the torturous physical realm? They are not worthy of being worshipped if they do exist, better to ignore that they do.
>>719277909Humans require religion to survive when they have the knowledge they are going to die, if you take away religion they will just turn science into a religion.
>>719283458>Advanced Technology is indistinguishable from magic.
>>719309816No, it's a title
>>719316705>the gliding and spinning at the endoh this is just too perfect
>>719315974>machines move by praying to a machine godThat ain't science bruh.
>>719281672hmmmmmmmm.............
>>719316510so both are kino
>>719317948If something is a fake thing then it's not actually that thing, by definition
>>719317464>Pretty sure there are physics theories where that can happen.it's the first rule of thermodynamics anon, energy cannot be created or destroyed. And everything is made of energy. How can there be energy if energy can't be made? If some physicist out there can conceptualize how to MAKE raw energy then we're a stones throw away from becoming a type 1 civilization. The amount of nonsense we could get up to with a perpetual motion machine would be nutty. We'd probably still have to pay for power, too. >>719317474I ain't in the business of discussing morality, just the logic of the existence of a deity. If you want to ignore them as revenge, that's your prerogative
>>719277909>choose to get insane buffs from food>>719281456Mabinogi does something similar>atheist character>on a continent created by a goddess who could create races out of nowhere, change the climate, have own realm, etc.>the only thing mortals managed to do is create a pale imitation of the god's magic which the MC can further refine due earning the right to wield the Caliburn>MC carries a weapon literally used by the original god to create Tir Chonaill and the rest of Erinn
In reality it's more like this
>>719318195I haven't played the game but>atheist character denies the existence of the goddess but gets considered worthy to wield her mythical creation weaponfucking kek, what a cuckquean
>>719277909depends on the religion
>>719318367>t.
>>719282964>What an ugly thing to say about dead children.As opposed to living children?
>>719318990Just a fact brother
>>719318146>I ain't in the business of discussing morality,Nobody is, you can't be objectively moral without being omniscient so morality will always be subjective. There are those that will LARP as objective however
The world needs a Magitek War-centric FFXVI prequel right now.
>Thousands of religions have come and gone>UMM ACTUALLY MINE IS REAL AND THE ONLY RIGHT ONEReligious NIGGERS need to be hanged.
>>719320150>UMM ACTUALLY MINE IS REAL AND THE ONLY RIGHT ONEcorrect
>>719317153>D&DWE ARENT TALKING ABOUT ANY SPECIFIC FICTIONAL WORLD YOU DUMB ANIME POSTING BITCH
>>719317263>Yes, Taoism is considered both a religion and a philosophyget fucked also mandarin is trashjust speak english already, you life would improve 100%
When has religion ever given anyone superpowers lmaoPeople just become delusional and start killing their neighbors over having a black cat
>>719277909the internet is bloated with stupid shit. You can't do anything right
Why not both?>Welcome to the holy gunshow!>Catcheth these hands, sinner!
>>719320284If Christianity is true why isn't heaven a kingdom in the sky like your rabbi yeshua says it isThis grift might have been impressive to bronze age retards but we can fly rockets up there now
>>719297845Sometimes you just have to grin and bear it.
never underestimate raven
>>719277909Elex
>>719321934I KNOW ITS YOU CARLOS YOU PIECE OF SHIT
>>719321504China is the top superpower with a growing middle class lolMeanwhile you're just circling the drain lmao. cope and seethe the world is correcting itself from the brief rancid fart of your judeoanglo era
>>719282964If they were brown you'd say it was funny and deserved, eat shit nigger. You guys wanna be victims now right? Here ya go.
>>719321863do you have a squall limit break with potions?
>>719321863if you guys are curious the best way to beat ff8 is with 1hp, and hero potions
>>719279774Didn't the tiger they were painting black ended up dying because of said paint?
>>719322512>drink the drink
I like ff8 better than ff9. sick my balls
>>719278445The difference is no one actually says that
is there anyone here intelligent enough to play tetra force?
squall is actually a bad ass main character
>>719277909I made something more accurate
>>719277909So he has 1 arm and decides to make it a robot arm or glowy, and then his other arm magically grows back? Kys reptilian nigger.
op can die in hell. hope he knows faited circle
>>719278167>He's unironically said "goodbye" any time in his life
>>719321885>bronze ageJesus didnt live in the bronze age you retard.
>>719281672What is this archaic wojakposting?
>>719281672Poleaxe guy's about to fuck them up check his aura
why gsnt these retards just make good games? kys jew
>>719324314>why was this game granted?
Test
>>719324082your holy scripture started in the bronze age. retard.
