What's next for mainline SMT?
Becoming (((woke)))
>>719280057More gay shit like V
>>719280274V is mega based. I'd let Nahobino rape me.That being said, I want the next game to be more in the vain of 1/2/4. Cyberpunk setting with a COMP and guns and shit brought back.
>>719280057Hopefully a better designed protagonist. And not androgynous.
>>719280274V proves gay games can be good and even scenes like this can be good.Admit it, this scene in any other game would be corny as shit but you were hyped, weren't you?
>>719280274>best combat in entire seriesi sure hope so
>>719280057Another 10 years, I'm guessing.
>>719280580I genuinely love the relationship between these characters, I think it's the best part of the game. It's nothing too deep but it's refreshingly wholesome. And even though I have no problem with it being interpreted as "gay" I never got that vibe.
Bro v was fucking ass i didn't finish it or play vengeance but there is 0% they cobbled something good out of that crap.Where are the levels fuckley? Where are the dungeons? Uninteresting fucking desert and ruins are not fun to explore, especially if there isn't shit in any of em
>>719280057I hope we get a 50/50 split of pre-apocalypse and post-apocalypse. Something like a modern version of FF6's general structure
>>719280129>Summons satan in order to kill the biblical god YHVHCan't image the panic if SMT 2 was released today
>>719280274Sounds good
>>719280435>I'd let Nahobino rape me.but then it wouldn't be rape
>>719280580>>719280274V isn't gay you fucking fags.
Make Devil Survivor 3 faglus.
>>719281117Don't ruin it for me.
>>719281070You kill god in Apocalypse and that game isn't old at all.
>Inside the Nahobino are two wolves>They're both gay
>>719281446No one played Apocalypse
>>719281035I'd rather it all be Apocalypse but just make the world interesting again instead of a bunch of barren wastelands like Nocturne and V.
>>719280057
>want to do all the optional shit before I finish the game>mfw Demi FiendNevermind
>>719280435what if he wanted you to rape him instead?
>>719281684It's obviously Persona 6 unfortunately.
>>719281684>it's a remake
>>719281774There are multiple teams:Studio Zero: MetaphorStudio One: SMTV:VStudio P: Persona 4 RivalStudio P is most likely working on Persona 6.
>>719281798I hear denim is back in style
>>719281225Why are you so delusional?
gay sex with nahobino
>>719281684Wasn't he in the credits for the Raidou remake?
cyberpunk setting
>>719282860>male bond means butt sexnigger take
>>719283474This, genuinely. I feel like you'd have to be an actual closeted fag to take that dialogue as gay.
>>719283474>>719283519>male bond>thinks there is only one piece of dialog about thisJust admit you didn't play the game.
>>719283303Yeah, Studio One did RAIDOU: Remastered and the article I posted was before it was announced. So they were probably talking about RAIDOU. They working on who knows what and who know when they will announce it.
>>719283591Yeah, and that's a different entity with a completely different personality that is interpreting her nature in a fundamentally different way.
>>719283603They'll assuredly make another mainline SMT but we probably won't see it for ages.
>>719281070It was released during the satanic panic of the 90"s and they only got away with it because they never brought the mainline games to the west until cockturne. Just look at the boomers who shitted and pissed their pants at pokemon.
>>719283591beat it twice. There's no gay shit, you just wish there was.
>>719280057>>719280435> Cyberpunk setting with a COMP and gunsthis. bonus if they can really flesh out and sell the decent of the world into an apocalypse as you progress through the game.and get rid of level scaling
I dunno what they can do next honestly.Wrapped up the YHVH + Lucifer plot and established the mandala.Can they even do Law vs Chaos again? Will they do Reasons again? I think those deserve another shot, they were good the first time.
Hopefully that add confidants in the next game
>>719283713>different entityHow are you unable to read? She's a fucking Aogami unit the tengu fucked with that is the whole point of this reveal. She literally tells you she is an Aogami and that she had feelings for the protagonist because she's Aogami. You can look up Amanozako's mythology too. She's Susano-o's emotional vomit made sentient because his emotions overflowed out of him. This is how they reinterpreted that mythology in the game. They didn't make this hard to grasp but apparently it is for retards in denial. The saddest thing is I only ever see people who can't understand this quest on fucking /v/ and no where else.
>>719284854>I only ever see people who can't understand this quest on fucking /v/ and no where else.That's /v/ for you. /v/ struggles to grasp a lot of things because for most users, headcanon is more important than logic and facts.
>>719285274Why do modders always fuck up proportions so badly. There is so much effort put into the female protag mod for this game but the female model looks horrible.
>>719285334That's a nude model for the SMT V protagonist, who is male, anon.
>>719284697
>>719280057>>719280274>>719280580This gross shit makes me never want to play this one. SMTV fans are fucking pedos.
>>719285595This game invented the concept of the backrooms and nobody knows it.
Still on first playthroughI like that the music when fighting the Fiends is like a remix of the one in SMT3
>>719286023>This gross shit makes me never want to play this one. SMTV fans are fucking pedos.The main character is canonically, factually 18 years old. He was born right after the Shekinah glory (like almost all actual, real humans in SMT5) making them 18.
>>719286079Just wait til you fight Demi Fiend.
>>719286151>1000 year old dragon argument
>>719286197This fight would actually be so good if it weren't for chaotic will completely ruining it. What a shitty skill.
I want to like the design of Nahobino but I can't get over the ice skates
>>719286240huh?
>>719280057a chibi YHWH as your companion>>719280274based gay shit
>>719281225I'm realizing now that this is one recurring shipper pedo
>>719286340>a chibi YHWHBratty, annoying little YHVH, completely powerless and comically law-abiding would be kinda cute.
>>719286323I know the things you've posted about Sekiro.
>>719285396I'm talking about mods in general for this game retard. Most of them look like shit including that one.
>>719286358>first denialism>now moving the goal post to screaming about non-existent pedosAre you having a melt down?
>>719286407haha you can search image history huh? That's so cool, you're so mature for your age!Now explain wtf you meant, how is an 18 year old a child?
>>719280580>watching cutscenesYikes
>>719281070>game where you play out revelation from the perspective of Returned Jesus kicking the shit out of all false gods including yhvhChristkino
>>7192866571000 year old dragon
>>719286741But Aleph fucks his Mary figure.
>>719286841This. Technically, Aogami is only a year or two old, he's just been deactive for over 18 years. He's a toddler. An infant. It's sick.
>>719286841Moh Shuvuu in Strange Journey
>>719287473He also has the brain of a toddler too. You basically spend the entire game grooming him away from god's light and encouraging him to fuse in an unholy way over and over again.
Should I play Metaphor, SMT III or SMT V?
>>719280057They'll add full on romance sidequests to bring more of the Persona audience
>>719287809The bench was more than enough already.
>>719287225Incorrect. There is nothing that ever implies that ever. His actual “mate” dies pretty early on.
>>719286657>how is an 18 year old a child?he can't. kek
>>719287925You didn't play the NG+ dungeon.
>>719286657Dead or Alive.
>>719286391>Bratty, annoying little YHVH, completely powerless and comically law-abiding would be kinda cuteindeedwe need this now
>>719286391>>719286340Please keep this moe shit out of SMT.
>>719288289You just want a more boring Alice.
>>719281706If you have troubles with Demifiend you were never going to beat Satan or Masakabro anyway.
>>719288317>Alice out of nowherebreh. you should have mentioned dagda instead, dummy
>Retards scream pedo at V but say nothing about IVA which had the first and only underage protag constantly preyed upon by adult demons.Explain yourselves, secondaries.
>>719288785You're saying Atlus and Japanese developers make weird pedo games? You mean I'm talking about SMT V in a thread about SMT V?
Eng Port of 2 and not censoring it.>>719281070I am very sure they won't release it, not because of Satan or killing God, but they get sue to oblivion with all the movie reference.
>>719287759For story reasons III then V
>>719289008>You're saying Atlus and Japanese developers make weird pedo games?I'm saying no one complained when it happened in IVA when it was out. Nanashi was also being hit on my the adult female demons he recruited. The moment it's something like V and a muscular robot, people start virtue signaling. There was also Anthony in SJ, and people mostly laughed at that.
>>719280057Soul Hackers 2 episode 2: Ringo Returns
>>719287759SMT VV, play Vengeance first. Story is fucking retarded in 3, so retarded they release an updated version for the purpose of adding a better Chaos Route.
>>719289128>There was also Anthony in SJ, and people mostly laughed at that.Because it's /v/ and they probably sided with him. Straight or gay the guys here are complete freaks. That's why I'm not fooled by any of this, I know what you're like.
>>719280057More sexy demon women.
>>719280057A spiritual sequel to IV...I would take a remake of IV on the SMT V Engine too, actually, I would love that
>>719289479That would take Atlus 20 years to make, same with trying to make SMT II in 3D.
>Nothing really remotely gay in the game with the protag and his companion.>but the game fell victim to the same insistent overwhelming fan shipping efforts that the Sherlock BBC show had from the gays and obsessed womenKind of hilarious just shows how something so niche can get catapulted to a mainstream (albiet gay) audience if you play some cards right even unintentionally.
It's nice to finally have an SMT game with a lot of voiced dialogue and acting in cutscenes.
>>719289676Refer to>>719283591>>719284854And stop being such a fucking retard. Before the game came out, Doi joked that the MC and Aogami had sex when they fused for fuck sakes. And he also drew this.
>>719289128>Nanashi was also being hit on my the adult female demons he recruited.And according to you people, women and feminine looking people in general are not capable of anything but being submissive to begin with, so why do you pretend to be bothered by that?
>>719289897No one said that.
>>719289676Never underestimate diehard shippers.
>>719289850>Source: trust me bro, I know Doi he'd say that.
I hope Atlus optimizes their games for the Switch 2. Playing SMT V on the OG was comfy, but that performance was pretty spotty. Right now V/VV are locked at 30fps on S2.
>>719289971It was in a famitsu article.
>>719289949Everyone on /v/ says that.
>>719290038And even beyond that as well.
>>719289965>>719289971In the original smt1, all the hero did was come to the heroine's rescue and swear to protect her. They were also called partners. They never hugged, kissed, or even talked much outside of that. Everyone knows that was a romantic relationship. V does the same thing with Aogami and the MC, however they got a ton more dialog, were called soulmates in game and even held hands and people will still say "uhhh they're just bros though". Fucking comical. You people don't play the games at all.
>>719290330QQ faggot.
>>719290415Butthurt retard
>>719290454QQ
>>719290486>no rebuttal
Stop chasing the dragon and make another SMT game with humans and guns
>>719289137It's kind of hilarious how the whole megaten fanbase memoryholed this game like a week after release.
>>719290330>Treating hetero and homosexual relationships as if they're the sameNice try faggot. A man and a woman can never EVER become bros.
>>719291094More like a man will never see a woman, or someone he sees as a sex object and designates as a woman in his eyes as a partner or equal.
>>719291174This read like a schizo post
>>719289463Mermaid... ToT
>>719291258It's the truth. It's why all male relationships center around domination, often with pedophilic tendencies.
>SMT V still uncracked.It's never been more over.
>>719291709There's a demo, meaning the demo bypass probably still works despite Fatlus' attempts to patch it.
>>719290994Isnt it because its extremely mid? so mid its not even bad enough to shitpost about.
>>719291926>eqypt has trillions of gods>the only one that bother representing them is a whorish queen and a pedo moon god
>>719283519>>719283474this. only fags see this as gay
>>719292095The Horus power struggle is why Cleo had to take over and was also cast out, no? So Isis, Thoth, Anubis, Seth etc are relegated to the sidelines because they have no human to bond with like Khonsu does.They should bring back Ammut tho since she was a cool design.
>>719292095Khonsu never fused with Miyazu. He knows she is only 17. The only pedo is Nuwa because she groomed Yakumo (lucky).
>>719280057Very pretty woman. :^)
>>719292376She also flirted with Khonsu to try and gain power which pissed him off.
>>719280057IV remake. Then IVA remake because they're stupid. Then nothing after the IVA remake bombs. Next mainline SMT won't be until the 2040s.
>>719292376It's kind of weird no one from the Egypt Branch even talks about Cleopatra. She seems to have been kicked out just recently.
>>719292951They hated her that much is why.
>>719292951They're jealous of her sexo
>>719292072On release it was actively bad, it's been fixed since then but a badly released game stays unpopular forever.
>>719292902>>719289479They will never do a 3D remake of IV or IVA.Not with the amount of demons those games have that would need entirely new 3D models and animations.Forget about it.A remaster or an enhanced port is the best we're going to get on that front.
>>719293957How was it bad, and how was it fixed if you don't mind explaining? I was thinking about playing it but I've been hesitant since release.
>>719292951>Miyazu dying from super cancer for years and barely hanging on>she's basically Khonsu's wife>everyone in the Egypt branch knows this and is in mourning with him>Cleo tries to fuck Khonsu anyway>he immediately boots her out>no one wants to talk about herWonder why
>>719281706atlus dogshit superbosses strike once again
>>719293992It wasn't bad, people just hate it because it's not Soul Hackers.
>>719293992The UI, game speed and QoL were extremely bad. They had to overhaul all of that stuff entirely. Character progression is grindy and poorly implemented. The combat was always decent enough, random encounters are lacking but the bosses all have pretty good gimmicks, it's fun to fight people summoning teams. If you like RPGs it's worth playing.
>>719280435Was so disappointed the whip had the same range as the sword.
>>719293981They would not need to give more than a fraction of those demons new 3D models and animations. They'd simply pare down the demon roster and only give new models and animations to the plot important ones.
>>719280274>top tier boss battles and team building progressionSweet. Dont care if the plot remains dogshit, jrpgs 99/100 times always flops in this department
>>719280057SMT 6 SMT 6: Rapture Soul Hackers 3 Persona 6Persona 6 Elite We're eating so good Atluschads...
>>719289978I believe it's very likely VV is getting DLC because they've been quiet for too long. The game also needs the update and I doubt they would do it without trying to make more money off of it.
>>719295316Base 5 got absolutely nothing post launch, nor do most of their other games. "Real" DLC was pretty much entirely confined to the 3DS era of games, everything else gets the "new girl edition" rerelease a year or two later.
>>719296074Yeah but Atlus said like a year ago they want to move to a dlc format instead of doing rereleases moving forward. VV was already in production when they said that so that very well might be the last game that gets a rerelease that isn't just a straight up remake in the future. Also when Atlus is done with a game they release dev materials, art books, and interviews. When they aren't done they refuse to say anything and claim they don't want to do spoilers. They did an interview like 3 months after VV came out and said pretty much nothing in it besides "sorry spoilers" and have been completely silent since. You know Metaphor has not only released its dev materials but also extensive interviews right after release? That's pretty much your litmus test on whether they are done with a game or not.
Every SMT is made by a new person so you can't really expect anything. All relevant Personas were made by the same guy so you knew what to expect
>>719296419Yamai directed Nocturne Maniax, IV, and IVA.
I wish all the new Nahobino skills introduced in Vengeance weren't so fucking situational. Murakumo is still the best except for very niche situations.
>>719296368I'll believe it when I see it. DLC for the handheld games was easy because it's just shuffling jpg portraits around, they're too lazy for a revolving door of dlc model with 3D games that require actual time and production to pull off.
>>719296491Maniax is not a game, and like I said every SMT is made by a new person
>>719296715>Maniax is not a gameLiteral retard
>>719296826You are a fucking moron. Maniax is just a rerelease of 3
>>719296923It is still a game, that used Yamai as the director. It still had new content.
>>719297020It's not a game. It's like a DLC. 3 is made by the guy who later made all Personas
>>719296491So what you're saying is don't let Yamai do it.
>>719297093Only the base game no one played.
>>719296536Heavenly Ikuyumi is just as flexible as Murakumo.
>>719297097He ruined the Raidou remake too
>>719297358its good for most brainless encounters but anything with dekaja makes it annoying to use
>>719285057Your info graph is fine until you get to the glaring problem that there is no way you can say Kagutsuchi and V's YHVH are the same character. And the only way you can bridge that gap is come up with some insane headcanon as to why Kagutsuchi wanted the conception to occur and why YHVH wanted to stop it because it was going to kick him off the throne. No one has been able to bridge this gap in anyway that's plausible or proven in game.
>>719297828your beelzebub?
>>719280057I want a soul hackersLike SH2 was ""fine"", I enjoyed for what it was, but it tried too hard to be a persona game.I'd want a proper one
>>719280057Hopefully not Nocturne 3. Make SMT4 3 instead
>>719297998>Kagutsuchi and V's YHVH are the same characteBecause they're not, never have been and never been implied to be. That's why AFTER you kill Kagutsuchi and AFTER you beat Lucifer, THEN it's implied you go to fight YHVH.I have no idea where you got it in your head anyone has ever implied Kagutsuchi = YHVH but that's just wrong.
>>719298135Even if they learned their lesson from SH2, there is no way they are touching soul hackers after how hard that game flopped for a long time.
>>719280057Gonna use this thread to ask questions.From what I understand the new vengeance route also has a law/chaos choice at the end and your alignment determines which demons you unlock at the end? I heard if you are neutral alignment you can get danu instead of innana or maria at the end, that true? I don’t think I’m gonna bother with godborn mode or the new secret boss cause it requires new game+ on the new routes and I want to play the new routes normally but I was pissed when supposedly danu wasn’t available on vengeance routes
>>719298169You're the first person I've heard to twist it that way. That means YHVH wanted Demi to kill Kagutsuchi.
>>719297998>Kagutsuchi wanted the conception to occur and why YHVH wanted to stop itYHVH doesn't want to stop the conception. Lucifer stopped it, because he's preventing anyone from getting to the throne.Kagutsuchi is the light of God (YHVH) that grants divine right to reason representatives and their chosen Demon Sponsor to recreate the world based on a Law.Destroying Kagutsuchi was the final test to prove your alliance to Lucifer and join him in the battle to kill YHVH.
>>719298286are you doing this on purpose, man? You are very confused. Doing a conception doesn't mean you're taking over for YHVH. He's still the big cheese. There are multiple kagutsuchi.
>>719298053Permanently in my party doing his job for all the VR missions. It's just been a year since I played so I thought it went off buffs instead of debuffs.
>>719298361You are arguing the Nocturne and V share the same world right? That means the throne system has been in place during the entirety of Nocturne. Lucifer says that the conception is what made YHVH lose his throne and it's part of the cycle of Mandala. It's also said YHVH attempted to halt the conception by restoring Tokyo as a means to save himself from being kicked off but he was killed anyway. That still matches with Nocturne?
>>719298208Yeah I know, but le me dreamI'd even take an HD port of SH1
Post your demon mainFor me its Eligor
>>719298279It's the same quest as base 5 where you one of the "mother" characters depending on alignment, except in vengeance it's your internally tracked alignment that influences which ending you get but is still technically separate. Danu is for neutral and being neutral just lets you manually choose at the lock, there's no downside to being it unless you wanted Maria or Inanna instead.
>>719298505>That means the throne system has been in place during the entirety of NocturneYes, inaccessible. Kagutsuchi doesn't let you get at the throne, he lets you recreate the world.> Lucifer says that the conception is what made YHVH lose his throneA conception occurring is what let Lucifer create the demi-fiend and lead to YHVH's death maybe, but I'm gunna need a source for that because this is the first I've heard of it.>and it's part of the cycle of Mandala.No, the cycle of the Mandala is law begets chaos and chaos begets law. Lucifer's true form being mechanical and his observation of this truth made him realize he'll never have true freedom. The cycle will continue.>. It's also said YHVH attempted to halt the conception No, the conception failed because of the results of SMT3's True Demon ending, so the Shekinah glory restored Tokyo in a flimsy state to bide time. > That still matches with Nocturne?Yes, nothing contradicts nocturne.
I want the same kind of dungeon crawling metaphor accomplished. MP management was a lot of fun to conquer in metaphor and i'd like to see that back in it.
Impaler's Animus or Critical Aura for a Figment Slash build? I'm kinda iffy on any move less than 100% accuracy even with both Eye skills but I'm bored of Murakumo.
What are they feeding her?
>>719298823figment slash falls to pieces with superbosses so id recommend critical aurahonestly deserved from vanilla but it caused a lot of reworking in my lategame
>>719298905I did all the superbosses and I refuse to fight Demi-fiend and Satan ever again on anything but simple mode to one shot them.Critical aura it is!
>>719298169>have no idea where you got it in your head anyone has ever implied Kagutsuchi = YHVH but that's just wrong.Not that guy, but power wank anons always try to claim Kagutsutchi is equally as powerful as YHVH and that he's basically just another head.
>>719298541Been getting my Mermaid fuarking juicy. Or whatever the Mag equivalent of that would be.
For me, it’s dazai, funny as fuck law rep
>>719299016>Not that guy, but power wank anons always try to claim Kagutsutchi is equally as powerful as YHVH and that he's basically just another head.the fuck? Lol Lucifer is clearly way stronger than Kagutsuchi and it's implied you destroy a LOT of them since they appear in the background during the Lucifer fight. They're nothing compared to YHVH.
>>719298748>Kagutsuchi doesn't let you get at the throne, he lets you recreate the world.Getting at the throne in V let's you recreate the world in the same way.>I'm gunna need a sourcePic related.>No, the conception failed because of the results of SMT3's True Demon endingHave you considered how this interpretation works with the demon ending? You don't recreate the world in this ending and Kagutsuchi leaves. The world turns into the netherworld. Wouldn't this also be the case if you killed Kagutsuchi just the lights are out? What's the difference?
>>719280129It already is: tranny, homosexual MC with a "husband".SMT: Persona 6 is the last chance to change course.
>>719299265Homosexual yes, but the tranny meme needs to end. Nothing like this every happens. You retards have been saying it before even the original game released. It's been years now.
>>719280435AIDS Meter: over capacity.
>>719299226>Getting at the throne in V let's you recreate the world in the same way.It doesn't. It lets you recreate *A* world. It doesn't let you rule over the Amala Universe. YHVH rules over ALL worlds and has made every single world created respond to his word of Law.Lucifer in your image states the same thing that he (maiden in black) says in SMT3. They are consistent.> You don't recreate the world in this ending and Kagutsuchi leaves.Yes, the conception fails. That's why YHVH uses the Shekinah glory to restore Tokyo, which was destroyed by the conception and failed to re-create the world, it turns into a netherworld.>What's the difference?There is no difference. The conception failed, the vortex world collapsed and became a netherworld. Demi and Lucifer's army march on YHVH and destroy him permanently (lol) and Lucifer stations himself before the throne because he cannot use it, being a snake-aligned god. He also peeped the mandala and saw the nature of law and chaos and lost his motive.He waited for the maturation of humans in the restored tokyo by YHVH's miracle and provoked the re-awakening of true gods (nahobino) in order to see who's worthy of taking YHVH's place.
>>719298508It's too bad that we'll never see Arrow again. He deserved to be in a better game. Or at least be the MC of SH2.
>>719299626SH2 would have been better if they kept him the MC and didn't heel turn to Ringo midway through development.
>>719299265What are you on about? The Persona series has been gay as fuck for the last 2 decades.
>>719299497>It doesn't. It lets you recreate *A* world. It doesn't let you rule over the Amala Universe. YHVH rules over ALL worlds and has made every single world created respond to his word of Law.Lucifer explicitly said the Great Will did this in maniax or something like it, not so much the extreme law part. I don't think YHVH and the GW are supposed to be the same character.
>>719298541I think humanoid demons are neat in moderation, and him being able to evolve is cool
Made a thing before bed.Goodnight bros.>>719299815Yeah the greater will/Axiom is above it, and probably not conscious or concerned with communicating with its creation very much. It's like a natural order or universal law that cannot be overturned.
>>719299497>Demi and Lucifer's army march on YHVH and destroy him permanentlyI thought Nanashi and Dagda did that
>>719299746Bait being the keyword though. Persona will never get anything explicitly sexual like pic related. I don't even think P6 will add a gay route.
>>719299916In SMT4's universe yeah but demons/gods work a bit different there.
>>719299626He's easily the most generic anime protagonist, I didn't like him much.
>>719299524>still no 3D debutpersona 6 can't come soon enough, we need new kanekomons models
>>719299958I have a sneaking feeling SMT6 and on is going to start to merge canons
>>719300032Would be strange after SMT4 was a soft reboot and retread a lot of SMT1/2 ground.
I always go freedom in cockturne
>>719300075id like to believe the whole point of the game is that everyone's reason is terrible because they're all so traumatized
>>719300061Just a hunch. 4A gave protagonists meetings, and then V brought 3 into its fold. Just a hunch they are slowly moving that direction of all games sharing canon
>>719300019Yeah I loved those designs, I always liked Kanekos more abstract era. Wish he was still doing demon designs.
>>719299725SH2 with just Arrow, Milady, and Saizo as active party members would be a much better game. Someone on the development team was probably a Ringo waifufag.>>719300016Generic protagonists have their place. Which is as the MC. It's why Persona and Dragon Quest do so well.
>>719300475generic protagonists are fine but I dislike when games dickride them 24/7
>>719300165If you ever agree 100% with any alignment or reason rep you should probably rethink your world view, anon.
>>719299725That actually happened?
>>719280057who cares? atlus doesn't give a fuck about SMT anymore. they'll never invest the money it deserves because of persona. And then when it doesn't sell as well as persona, they'll claim that's the reason they can't invest more into it. self-fulfilling prophecy of retardation
>>719300606Yes. They said in an interview they made the decision early on but datamining proved that wrong as much of him being a character was fully developed and ready to go including a lot of recorded voice lines and they just dumped it all.
>>719300223We all do bro.
>>719299941If they did anything explicitly sexual between 2 guys that would actually alienate the fujo audience. It would be real stupid for P6 to have a gay route.How did SMTV do, by the way?
>>719300645This is some retarded doomer shit that isn't backed up by any of the behavior of Atlus. SMT V also sold more than any other SMT game by far, it's still their second most profitable franchise. There would be no reason to stop making SMT games, that would be absolutely retarded when they have multiple teams. They made a fucking Raidou remaster when they knew that was guaranteed to have shit sales, they clearly do what they want within reason. SMT is going nowhere, even if it isn't their #1 money maker anymore.
>>719300704Best selling smt. Also Atlus recently sold this shitty acrylic merch for 16,000 yen and the seller reported that it was "extremely popular" and selling out. I think it might have to do with the fact that the player base in Japan for SMT is 60%, 40% with the majority being females in their 30s and 40s. Also the larger picture here can be framed.
>>719300695That's almost as bad a decision as making SH2 some weird hodgepodge of Persona and mainline SMT without realizing what make those series good.I'm kinda sad that we'll never see another DDS game. That duology felt like they did something genuinely original.
how quickly people forget her...
>>719300895That's because I'm on team Tao
>>719300920Make all alignment reps girls from now on. We need to go back to NINE.
>>719300867You mean>best selling mainline SMT
>>719300990Why would I need to specify when you understood that's what I meant?
>>719300990Yeah, and the best selling SMT.
>>719300867if hag fujoshit pandering is the price to pay for more JRPG ludo, then so be it..better than yurifags i suppose
>>719300956nine didn't have nine alignment reps
>>719300895Everyone who liked her got killed by a car
>>719300704Bro your jun?
>>719301050No just two cuties. Nine endings though.
>>719300990purseowner isn't included among mainline or spinoffs, and shit like raidou and devil survivor didn't sell any better
>>719301146doesn't the rep change on if the PC is a boy or girl
>>719300895She is homewrecker-coded.
>>719300563i mean true but it feels like the options in nocturne are 'oops all chaos'except for hikawa but nobody in their right mind would listen to him"do everything i want you to do to bring harmony"
>>719300563musubi is based and there's nothing wrong with living in my god bubble forever
>>719301234Only because she never mentioned Aogami once through the entire game when Tao talks about how nice he is several times. Concerning but it's probably fine, right?
>>719301041VV still had yuri pandering though, just mild bait. Still cute
>>719300895>cute>sexy>stylish>great party member>funniest dialogueTao somehow sucks even more in all regards from the original where she just fucks off if you go neutral. Dumb bitch and her dumb ear should kneel to the best girl aka by wife.
>>719301405I forget her name but taos friend just can't win lol, in one reality she dies and when she gets a second chance in vengeance she dies again
Sex with demon women, and Tao.
>>719301405That's not yuri it's just basic bitch friendship.
so vengeance is basically just women bad, right?
>>719301550Tao shoved the Nahobimbo into 9 to 5 throne slavery to make her ideal world just so she could watch Sahori be happy forever, anon.
>>719301238All of the games have a flavour to them like that. Like in VV they both come to the same conclusion with the same evidence, the only difference is their method for solving it is at odds.>except for hikawa but nobody in their right mind would listen to himLawfags would beg to differ.
>>719301565vengeance is "bad women good" actually
>>719301594that's just your wife forcing her friends to become your friends by extension, basic female shit
>>719301275Shut the fuck up, Isamu. You're the most cringe of the lot.
>>719301671Nothing about your metaphor made sense.
>>719288634Demifiend is the hardest superboss though.
>Always manages to filter the ATLUS normies.How does SMT IV Apocalypse manage to keep doing it?
>>719302438Too fat
>>719298541I always thought he was cool in SH but I've never seen him again, probably never will.
I hope we get another SMT. I think VV is unironically the best game in the series. It's main issue is how awful the story is.
>>719302676The story is not bad at all though.
>>719299915Which brings me back to my point, every time they mention the "Absolute One" they are referring to the Great Will, not YHVH hiding on a throne. That is who Lucifer says they are going to face.In the neutral ending, Kagutsuchi tells you the GW is responsible for all the worlds experiencing conception, not YHVH:>You, with a heart that follows no rule, the bearer of unamed reason>Your heart longs for the kingdom of freedom, a world that has no set future>The Great Will once granted the world freedom, in hopes that it would evolve to a new level>However, it was that freedom which gave rise to evil, brought darkness, and led the world to destruction>My power was meant for one who sought the world's rebirth>You have become a slave of freedom like that fallen angelThe freedom being referred to here obviously refers to a world without conception, seeing as you return the world to exactly as it before all this happened which is why Kagutsuchi gets so pissed.
I'll soon be done with SMT1. Probably not playing 2 for a while, but should I play if or not?
>>719287759I played all three last year. Start with Nocturne and end with Vengeance.
>>719302676>I hope we get another SMTWhy wouldn't they keep making them? You're not making any sense.
>>719302927Both If and 2 are much more of a pain to play than 1 which is extremely easy by comparison. It depends, do you want to play 2 for tons of backtracking, item quest fetching, and a retarded wisdom stat check which makes you waste 5 level up points for forces you to grind? Or do you want to play If which has two of the worst dungeons of all time, the world of sloth and greed. And I mean, like banging your head against the wall bad.
>>719303346Atlas are a nigger. Im still waiting for a Metaphor rerelease they said would never happen
>>719303550And it probably will never happen. Hashino already said he's working on a different game now.
>>719301565Women oppressed, but for some reason V's MC just "gets it" and understands oppressed women while all the other male characters can't. Yoko even says in game that her and the MC have thought alike from the very beginning. And he's the other half of a bull god too, the guys who have history and mythologically shit all over women over and over again.
>>719301436kind babyKIND BABY
I'm playing VV and I thought I was on the path for the Chaos ending but I've just beaten Tiamat so I dont think Im on Chaos. I did all the Chaos choices so Im not sure how I strayed.
>>719303803There isn't a Law Chaos choice. The choices are cowgirl or snake girl
>>719298541I don't ever think there is an instance I don't recruit or fuse him>>719302654There are are multitude of demons in SH that will never get a 3D model because that game was basically "hey we have CDs now so you can put whatever wacky drawing you come up with into it Kaneko, we dont even have to do pixel art for them "
>>719303803Did Mastema pop out? Then you're on chaos.
>>719303850Well I wanted to do Yoko first.>>719303953Well I did Tiamat and then saved at the new save point so I could fuck off and finish up the side activities I hadn't done yet so if he appears during the Tiamat cutscene then I didn't get him but if it's in the next cutscene I dont know
>>719280057Keep being mogged by Persona
>>719303697What you've typed out is one of many reasons I think the game was intended as a female protagonist game. They were told no right in the beginning but didn't want to change the story they wrote out, so they made a femboy. It's honestly very stupid.>>719304059You're on law.
>>719296368VV was also necessary because it moved the game from dogshit Switch to real platforms
>>719300867>16,000 yen just for a framed portrait of character art>people are buying itJesus christ, what the fuck.
>>719298135>game's called Soul Hackers>"I know! Our protagonist is actually going to hack into her party's souls to recruit them!"Keep modern Atlus away from SH.
>>719304416And she does that cringe gooner bait tongue thing before she "soul hacks" too. What the fuck were they thinking.
>>719304101Said no one ever. Even persona enjoyers come around and realize smt has the superior gameplay
>>719280057Whatever the next MC is, they need their own Hee Ho right away.
Is Soul Hackers 2 even the same setting as Soul Hackers 1?
>>719305242Yes, why wouldn't it be?
>>719305242Yeah
>>719304132Yeah that's weird. I also heard that if you icon on the map spins counter clockwise you are on Chaos and my icon still rotates counter clockwise so I have no idea.
>>719304653You only care about fujo shit though
>>719305431Tiamat is always fought no matter what. If your next boss is Tehom, you fucked up. If you fight Mastema you're based and truth pilled.
>>719305521Snake sympathizer spotted
>>719281070YHVH is Jewish. At least shit post correctly
>>719305605Lawfags are the absolute last person to criticize someone else's ideology. Are you even allowed to do that of your own free will?
>>719301094P1 and P2 didn't exist.
>>719305521Ill have to just go back to the final area to check it out
>>719305512Nah you’re just genuinely retarded if you think persona is better
>>719305941Sorry, I couldn't understand you. All I can hear are obnoxious hissing sounds coming from your post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QOsWT1t5jg
>>719306072>muh snakesThat's how you know it's the based alignment. We have cool snakes, you have homoerotic cock worship. The decision is pretty clear.
>>719306546>uhhh chaos is actually immune to homosex actually Lol no.
>>719307172This just shows how little you understand Shin Megami Tensei as a whole. Chaos is the ability to choose whether you want to suck a man's cock or not and which cock it will be, Law is forcing everyone to suck a single cock so nobody is fighting over them or whether they have to suck a man's cock or not.
>>719308162Deep
>>719308162>I'll suck all the bad cocks! Even if it ends up with a knife in my back! That'll show you lawfags!
>>719282098>MetaphorIs this becoming a series? I thought it was just going to be a single game?
>>719282402I like when they make the top lip black, looks funny
>>719302654Hey Dx2 is adding some IF demons so there might be a model for him eventually when they get to SH stuff that you can mod in
>>719308162False, Chaos is sucking demon cock Law is sucking Divine cock and Neutral sucking human cock
>MC of CoC>shafted in vengeance
>>719298135As much as I love Nemissa what I actually want is a new Devil Summoner. SH1 was the same kind of game as Debisama, just with a futuristic city. Dungeon crawling noir.
>>719300895I married her. Best heroine in the series.
>>719313513Even without his character development from CoC he's like 10 times cooler than Atsuta. Also his boss fight is sick.
>>719299915You can add Great Will to duality since he's always portrayed as two people talking to each other.
>>719302438now ill play your game
Should I bother doing Demifiend at the end of the game or should I wait until NG+?
>>719298823>I'm kinda iffy on any move less than 100% accuracywell don't be
>>719314964You have to beat up all the fiends to get to DF again. I'd just do it.
>>719313513Dazai still has great moments in vengeance, him being playable is a blast, also he has a Senri on his team, he's got Abdiel and a GILF cat side chick for off the clock stress relief.
>>719304510Finn mccol reference
>>719307172>>719308162Now kith
>>719308162You've got DEI brainrot bro
For a phys demon should I useFigment slash with both eye passives and impalers animusAkashic arts with critical aura or impalers animus + crit passivesHell thrust with critical auraWhich one is better? Please assist
>>719314234>do nothing but tag along with Tsukuyomi in CoC>die and get cucked in CoVprobably the most grim chaos rep in the series
>>719319641Myriad Slash
>>719319641If you don't plan on having a demon with pandemonic feast in your party then figment slash, if you do have pandemonic feast you should use rampage with crit aura. Also optimal phys demons are gogg or arioch.
>>719319851His well intentioned patheticness is a reflection of Tsukuyomi. By that same token, Tsukyomi saving his own sister is meant to be Atsuta's redemption.
>>719319992My phys demon will be a shitmon like Eligor.My question is then, if using figment slash then do I go for critical aura? Or does it hit consistently with the eye passives
>>719320560Why would you use the guaranteed crit skill with the skill that always makes you crit
>>719320560Never use critical aura with figment slash that's pointless, both eye passives are enough but if you're still missing slapping on agility stat boosters onto your demon do help. Of course buff and debuff first, about 2 agility difference is usually enough.Charge or Impaler's are sometimes useful with figment slash but mostly you just use it raw or with donum gladi cast by a different demon.
this is what i love
>>719321023I think I'm inclined to agree, anon
sexy tasty alicunny
>love SMT 4 on 3ds>Years later get persona 4 and 5 on steam>It's just a vn for teenagers instead of an RPGDidn't know those two were so different. SMT v has been fine, but 4 is timeless.
>>719289676>insistent overwhelming fan shipping efforts that the Sherlock BBC show had from the gays and obsessed womenWait, was he not actually gay in that show? I never watched it, but from the way people talked about it I assumed he really was just openly gay and sucked dick in every episode
>>719305521>>719304132>>719303953Just got backf rom work to check it out and yeah I got law ending. I genuinely have no fucking clue when the shit I somehow swapped onto law when I knew for a fact that I was on chaos based on the rotating icon thing literally right before I got to the empereon. The only thing I could think is that I accidently did one of the law alignment side quests without thinking cause I was just mindlessly mashing through them all cause the side quests in this game are garbage. Genuinely kind of pissed cause I wanted to get Chaos for my first ending and I don't have an earlier save to load. Fuck this shitty alignment shifting bullshit. Just let it be a normal ass choice at the end.
>>719302167No he isn't. He was the super boss in the OG but now he's childs play.
>>719292951She's literally a greek imposter on the throne, ok course they would ignore her.
>>719280274more cute boys is never a bad thing though ?
>>719321806Imo SMT IV is a significantly worse RPG than either P4 or P5. None of the mechanics work and the game is a mess of unfinished ideas.
>>719300895>getting bullied? I hope you're prepared to murder
>>719323254This is what the term cringekino was invented for
>>719323147Nononono, you're supposed to love IV and say it's the best of all time.
>>719280641>>best combat in entire seriesIVA and SJ are better, faggot
>>719280057always wanted a good hack n slash set in smt, too bad we only have the raidou games and maken but the remake being a thing at all makes me wonder if something's brewing behind the scenes
>>719320754Guarantees hit, 100% hit rate on top of the guaranteed crit>>719320771Okay thanks thats what I figured but U wanted to make sure anyway
>>719324517What is wrong with Raidou being the hack and slash smt series? That's what it's for.
>>719280057Feature every single demon in one game, including alternative designs.
>>719324435I think V is better than IV. Much better skill distribution, functional status ailment builds, better use of support demons, more unique demon traits, better designed bosses with multiple enemies working together instead of one powerful dude, no annoying AI team mate mechanic, etc. Talking about IVA because it has the second best combat after VV. SJ's combat is trash, it's saved on that front purely because the encounter design is good and it's well balanced, its a good game overall.
>>719324769Better than IVA* IV doesn't even register.
>>719324662Why not just carry safeguard? You won't miss twice with Figment Slash with Dragon's eye/decent agility. That seems like a better use of resources than Critical Aura.
>>719300895Was so happy to finally murder her, even if it was just a god she became fuel for.
I am gay so I don’t care about waifufagging.Whats better? Light of Order or Primordial Chaos. I am assuming Tao’s skill is better
>>719280057Man I'm playing smt 4 apocalypse with a strength build and it's getting really fucking annoying to go through the game. A critical eye hades blast crit not killing anything anymore on the first turn during random encounters and demons with smirk judgement light often don't get the instant kill even on light weak enemies. This is during the attack on the reactor area (camp ichigaya). I learned shibaboo for the early game and never had a reason to delete it and somehow it almost always works despite me only putting one point in luck per level. Am I supposed to be running mez on the MC?
>>719324943Law is the best ending. Chaos is for whiners that need their Mastema fight and/or delusional waifu fags that headcanon the ending to be good.
>>719325103Actually it's not unless you don't have Sakuya which outclasses her on healing.
>>719324938Its probably better to carry both eyes then just max debilitate.I might just make an akashic arts demon just to compare the two but I can see the figment slash build being optimal for shiva and any other ball busting superboss since its essentially a free press turn + damage and seems more self sufficient than critical aura + akashic arts
>>719280057idk but they have to improve the story, narrative and characters. SMTV's gameplay was fine, level design was good, music and combat too but it just needed a bit much story, the characters needed a bit more exposition, the world needed to be more fleshed out because as it stands it was like here this dungeon crawler and that is all you do. You fight level up, customize some stuff here and there and that was it. All the characters were pretty cool but by the end of the game you know nothing about them. You don't know who they are, you don't know anything. I don't know who the main antagonist even was. The Qaditsu were pretty cool but they all disappear midway through the game and is at that point that the story also stops. It just stops but there's still like 20 more hours of game of you mostly fighting and doing the same shit again and again aimlessly till the credits roll out.How the fuck did this game even get such glowing reviews and many even dare say it is better than Persona 5? Niggers need to lay off the pipe. 87/100 Metascore my ass.
>>719325213>sakuya is better than taoWhat?Tao is a heal + dekunda + luster candySakuya is a heal + luster candy + mp healI can see value in the mp heal but how is it better than being able to delete every single debuff and buff all stats in a single press turn? Especially for the tough boss fights?
>>719325112Other way around, Chaos ending cinematic is kino and book ends the game perfectly with the garden of eden imagery. The law ending is boring as fuck, but it has a cooler final boss.
>>719325462>storyfagSmt5 was more than fine on the story front. Persona is the story focused rpg, SMT can stay more gameplay focused and as a testing ground to improve the gameplay of series like persona or metaphor. I would add buff ranks to persona to make its gameplay more complex (and remove auto buffs)
>>719325476MP is way more valuable. The dekaja effect is rarely relevant, because if you were already buffed, it's unlikely that you'll get brought down to the negatives in one turn.
>>719325619*dekunda effect
>>719281070The panic would be non-existent today.Whereas the entire reason it was never released to NA when it came out was because the outcry back then would have been absurd, it was quite simply verboten.Most kino game of all time btw
>>719325619NTA but I disagree. The Dekunda apply before the buff is super strong. A lot of endgame bosses will debuff the shit out of you and some have multi stage debuffs. It's good for countering Shiva/Satan/Lucifer knocking you down to -2
>>719325859MP is always super valuable, and in the worst case of being at -2 (which is rare) you can just use the dekunda item before buffing again.
>>719325476Tao blows, dekunda is worthless and the mp heal is huge. Not to mention the combo mag skill she has with her golem dad that's an even more ridiculous mp heal.
>>719325553I've seen this argued before but it's also like saying the CoV chaos end is the only actual ending that incorporates the themes of the game and yet true neutral is still considered the game's true ending and the new route didn't change that.
>>719325619>dekaja effectYou mean dekunda>its unlikely you will be brought down more than one rank in a single turnTandava is max rakunda.I fail to see how light of order is not a fucking godsend for fights like shiva or fights with debilitate.>>719326174Did you guys even fight shiva or any of the superbosses in the original? I was actually pissed when I lost tao in the original. Is multi-rank debuff really not that common anymore in vengeance? Because I fucking swear it was downright essential to have dekunda in og endgame on the harder difficulties
>>719326257NTA but there are 3 true endings because they're the ones with unique icons when you finish them. The others are just filler endings that are identical to each other and their icons show that.
>>719326257I like True Neutral end too. I like CoV Chaos more is all. CoV Law is the ending I don't care for since it's just a generic good ending and the cinematic isn't even cool like Tree of Knowledge scene or God MC alone in the new world.
>>719326510Why are we pretending Shiva is a relevant fight in Vengeance? He's a complete joke literally use whoever you want.
>>719326538You know neutral is always the true ending between a law/chaos/neutral choice right?
>>719326610I wouldn't say he's a joke he's still the hardest story boss, but an optimized Figman Slash build is overkill for anything but the super bosses.
>>719326087Okay but light of order is dekunda and luster candy in one turn as opposed to needing to use two separate turns.>being debuffed more than one rank is rareWe are not playing the same game
>>719326582I'm just saying, "book end" isn't really what the ending does. If anything it adds more context to the metaphor of Nahobino fusion because it's the same tree you see in those cutscenes. The original sin is everywhere in the game and it's still all over the original route too even is Lucifer is mostly absent from the plot until the end.
About to start vengeance, any tips
>>719327085If you want the whole story and plan to play both routes no matter what, do not take the girl's hand.If you plan to do only one playthrough, take the girls hand (new route has more content).
>>719326739Whats the optimized figment slash build?
>>719326956I'm just saying the actual hard bosses (Demifiend and Satan) are more MP checks. I fought Satan without Sakuya because I didn't own that DLC and it took 2 and a half hours because I was spending half of my turns spamming the chakra elixer for pitiful amounts of MP.
>>719327286Atlus postgame DLC shit is always like thatI am usually very completionist and yet the way they design that stuff to try to dogwalk people into buying all of it makes me nope out
>>719327085Just use the demons you like, don't worry about endgame super builds.
>>719327085Don't bother hoarding Essences. You can only carry one of each type at a time, so feel free to use them liberally because you can easily find dupes.
>>719300815>There would be no reason to stop making SMT gameswow that must be why I never fucking said that, retard.
>>719327286I also didn't use Sakuya and didn't have this problem at all. Obviously I had to use a bunch of Chakra Pots/somas but it never got so bad I needed to use the low MP heals. Fuck if it gets to that point why didn't you just have Cherub in your party? He can do the AoE MP heal magatsuhi skill.
>>719294713When will they actually start showing P6 off?
>>719327758I had spent most of my MP items against Demifiend and was already low from the start. I probably could have used one of the MP magatsuhi skills but by the time I realized how dire the MP situation was I was already over and hour into the fight. Also I feel like that'd have just prolonged it if I wasn't using omnipotent succession to actually deal damage.
>>719280274t. played with English dub
>>719327286Demi and Satan aren't bosses they are rubix cubes.
>>719328254Demifiend went from rubix cube in the original to boss in Vengeance. Satan is bullshit.
>>719281564The thing with nocturne and V is that they can afford to make cheap and shitty environments if they're going for this abstract weird liminal space vibe, but if you were going to do something like SMT 1/2/4 with environments that are up to Switch 2 tier realistic standards it would just cost too much to be worth what SMT mainline is going to sell. They would have to scale back the world design to gay little toybox 3DS levels to at least let your mind fill in the blanks.
>>719328347Demi is still bullshit because of chaotic will.Satan is unreal.Joker in p3 reload is the most horse shit thing you'll ever do.
>>719328458Works for me, I liked SMT IV's presentation.
>>719325462>How the fuck did this game even get such glowing reviews and many even dare say it is better than Persona 5?It got reviewed by people who care about the GAMEPLAY of GAMES and not a faggot like you who wants to read a book but is instead playing a game.
>fucked up deadly fury's attack animation in 5>also made freikugel lame and uselessWhy did they do it?
>>719325476Koromaru is the best boy.
>>719328347I think Satan is the best designed super boss Atlus has ever made. I love that understanding his gimmick is also his weakness and how to beat him.
>>719328843His summons have too much fucking health. I'm convinced if I didn't need to kill them so fast to not lose all of my progress he'd be way more fun.
>>719325462The main Antagonist of V is the Empty Throne. It's a Man vs No God conflict.
>>719298858I wish she was end game demon in SMT V...
>>719280274>more best gameplay in the franchisenice
>>719329495Make her one. She's the best Dark Damage dealer on a Dance team.
>>719329495Isnt her unique dark technically the strongest with the right set up?
>>719280057I hate V, it's a mediocre game that added nothing new or interesting to the franchise.But worst of all, are the faggots who latched onto it.SMT used to attract schizos and chaos- vs lawfag debates, but now it's mostly just faggots derailing threads by pretending V was a good game.Fuck Atlus and fuck V and it's homo "fanbase".>What's next for mainline SMT?No more mainline, only P6 spin-offs and crossovers for the next 20 years.
it feels like they keep trying to raise the stakes from previous titles, so I expect everyone and their mother to be a flowing blue-hair nahobino battling amala networks like beyblades
>>719322027Fandoms are really good at seeing a close relationship between two men and swearing up and down that the only answer for why these two men are so close is because its romantic. Star Trek fandom was the same way from what I remember. I've not watched either show but women and gays are desperate to grasp at straws for representation and/or their fantasies becoming real, so much so that within certain fandoms it may as well be law and that denying it is basically heretical. If I had to guess, it likely wouldn't be such a problem if writers wrote better heterosexual relationships than they do platonic same sex ones. I do feel like in V and VV's case the fujobaiting between Aogami and V-kun is way more blatant if you understand how the Japanese love to imply things instead of outright say it, but I'm heavily of the opinion that its because V-kun was suppposed to be a girl. At least they're making money on the fujos. Yumes were robbed.
>>719329712Any actual smt fans wanna backup this statement? I could use the support
>>719329817as an add-on/expansion pack/remake, it'll also add some black-hair chick that's kind of edgy and generally shits on the first iteration while raising the stakes a bit more
>>719329712Based, smtvfujos SEETHING
>>719327085Different navigators give you different results. Some constantly get you into fights and most focus on certain types of items. Fights from those pickups aren’t bad either because they often spawn mitamas.Put the mitama rates on normal if you bought that dlc until you have nothing left to do but superbosses.Swapping Nahobino out of the first slot can be very useful, like if you want to open a fight with a magatsuhi skill activated by a demon or if you want to buff before your damage dealers go.Most magatsuhi skills don’t require the demons to all be in battle at once, you just need them all in stock and only one in the field. So you can just keep two cats around in the stock doing nothing so Nekomata can use feline fury for instance.Don’t blow all of your glory on random shit but miracles that boost the rate you acquire magatsuhi, miracles that boost the number of skill slots you or demons have, and miracles that increase nahobinos potentials are all really good. For Nahobino potentials try to specialize in a couple damage types don’t grab them all.Save gospels until you’re really high level
>>719329712>it's a mediocre game that added nothing new or interesting to the franchiseBut enough about NocturneAt least V still feels like mainline
>>719330081asking for validation is the gayest shit in this thread.
>>719330431V's worst parts are when it's jerking off nocturne
>>719329817I feel like V/VV is the jumping the shark moment for the series, especially now that the Great Will is gonna be more involved.
>>719326510I did, its especially long, difficult fights where the mp heal is even better. Tao has shit affinities and resists, relies on essences to get more skills, and her skill was even nerfed to heal less (along with Idun) in vengeance exactly because they wanted to make Sakuya even better by comparison. Whatever momentum you're saving by not having to spend someone's turn using a dekunda rock is nothing compared to the mp you save with her.Also obviously you don't even have Tao at all if you go chaos so the comparison is for law only.
>>719315238Figment Slash accuracy relies a lot on level and stat parity. It's great for story bosses and trash mobs but any of the fights you'd be fine tuning builds for in the first place will have you missing a lot, so crit aura is definitely the way to go for them. Impaler's animus is also only a 1.3x boost so it's not even worth it mp-wise compared to just attacking twice.
>>719300019They're both in the gacha.
Here is my billion dollar game idea>Megaten game with old visual design and writing but modern game design and graphicsWould it work?
>>719331202Sounds intriguing, what Persona mechanics are you planning on shoehorning into it?
>>719330536at this point I'd take a I/II rerelease on nintendo's online shit but for Englishor a side-game with a COMP-reliant protagonist, at least
>>719331397You can only dungeon crawl for 5 minutes before having to settle in for an hour of VN cutscenes.
>>719325476MP heal is mandatory against Satan unless you're cheesing him because of how long the fight is.It's even worse on Godborn where you WILL run out of items against him.
>>719331202This is actually your thousand dollar game idea
>>719299018Based Mermaid bro.ToT...
Should I get SMTV for PC even though I already own it on Switch.
>>719331676IMO it controls really well on PC, I'd say try it
>>719331676Do you plan on replaying it and don't mind double dipping? Then yes for the vastly better performance and for the superior platform.
>>719330054V is written like a hetro romance but who should be the heroine is a femboy instead. It's like they took the dynamic of the heroine and heroine from 1 and just transplanted t between two new guys. They copy all the exact same tropes from the first game to the point where it feels blatant. Also no other series goes back and references the first game over and over again besides SMT1 every opportunity they can, like pic related being one of many examples in V alone. They knew exactly what they were doing.
>>719300895makes her look like a hagio moto character
>>719331676I don't know why you'd get the same game twice. Vengeance is a separate game on either platform so if that's what you're talking about then get it on PC for playable framerate.
>>719327085Use buffs retard
>>719330536GW was more heavily involved since Nocturne. It's not a V problem.
>>719331776I would feel weirder playing a female MC with a sexy dad companion than the yaoi bait femboy and sexy dad, with the latter at least I know it's for fujos and not for AGP
>>719331676Yeah, no shit. SMTVV on PC is the definitive way to play the game, I would never go back to switch even thought I own the base game physically. It is just a nobrainer.
>>719331810Mainly because of the framerate if anything. I doubt they're gonna update it for Switch 2.
>>719331890Aogami doesn't act like a dad at all. Actually the devs said Koshimizu is the MC's father figure when they're together. Aogami mothers him instead which is another SMT1 callback because the smt1 hero had major mommies issues due to her being murdered and the heroine mothers him in response.
Can someone explain to me why some demons I level up and they get like 9 stats boosted but some I only get 3? I don't get what the distinction is here.
>>719331993If you have the miracles that give extra stats on level up, those only work for a certain number of levels (I forget how many)
>>719331890I know this is a long shot because of where we are but do you know what a "woman" is?
>>719332187A featherless biped + vagina?
Nahobino is a man through and through. He even got specific waifu ending in VV. You homos and fujos and trannies are projecting.
>>719332246Close enough
I beat If... Akira route the other day. I'm thinking I should finally play Nocturne now, or Strange Journey. Although to be fair I'm sad I didn't do the Reiko route and get the true final boss in If...
>>719332380a man I'd like to fuck (milf)
Has anyone played V with the Demon Expansion mod? It looks pretty crazy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FL3coDqdg0
>>719332380>i-i-it's a waifu ending!>makes up a bunch of headcanon to explain why>meanwhile there are tons of explicit examples with Aogami in game and he even declares he's staying by the protag's side in both new endings>you're stuck with him no matter whatThat's why.
>>719330054V is written like fujo pandering. It's not even more fujo pandering than P5. I'm not against people shipping whatever they want but pretending it's some incredible love story if you read between the lies is obnoxious and disingenuous
>>719332498Do you want to go through the hell of world of greed again just to look at an extra cutscene of Hazama as a baby? I wouldn't bother.
>>719331776Insane homo cope. I can smell your gaped anus from here. SMTV references Nocturne way, way more. You sound like one of those disturbed furries who sees a cartoon animal that looks like pic related and goes "They knew exactly what they're doing...".
>>719332053That makes sense. It is the ones I got more recently that have the bigger level up boost.
>>719332885>Aogami said he'll support you no matter what so that means you have no choice to be gay Do you have brain problems? How does one segway to the other. You claim hetfags are reading too much into it when the main character and the heroine are the last two humans in the world holding hands inside his soul but then you insist this shit.
>>719333172segue
>>719332498Go to 3. Then SJ.
>>719332498Man for some reason I'd rather replay Apocalypse for the second time in a year rather than replay SJ for the first time in like 10 years.
>>719332498Strange Journey is basically SMT3 in anything but name. But Nocturne is a way better game if you ask me. But if you play SJ, play Redux. Ignore the people who scream about the 240p character art being a downgrade.
>>719333172>the last two humans in the world holding hands inside his soulAnd there it is folks, the headcanon.
>>719333023V references Nocturne, Raidou, SMTII, I, IVA, and NINE multiple times. You don't play the games.
>>719332813Been using it a lot. Haven't really used the new demons all that much and some demons like Pan-Gu and Guan Yu are absurdly strong, but the new encounters and skills spice up a playthrough a lot.
>>719333421What, exactly is headcanon about that?At the end of the chaos route the world is destroyed and only the main character and Yoko are left. And the final scene takes place inside "The Spiritual World" of the main character.
>>719333491>original game mentions game>well yeah but it mentions game 3 featuring dante from DMC way more>it also features game, game, game and game, you didn't play original gameyou homos are brain damaged
>>719333608This has nothing to do with homos, I'm telling you a fact since your post was about Nocturne references, retard.
>>719333752You have negative reading comprehension. I said V references Nocturne way more than SMT2, I never said that it references Nocturne EXCLUSIVELY. Go back to 5th grade.
>>719333596>At the end of the chaos route the world is destroyed and only the main character and Yoko are leftExplicitly says the world hasn't ended yet in the narration.>And the final scene takes place inside "The Spiritual World" of the main character.That being the shared space between the MC and Aogami which is why you see the tree in the fusion cutscenes.
>>719280057Are the two Demon DLC worth it? Seems like a P2W cheat code from what I read.
>>719333861Then what the fuck is your point in saying there are more Nocturne references? How is this your "gotcha" regarding all the other references? It sounds like you're moving the goal post.
>>719331776I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm completely fine with yaoibaiting, it doesn't bother me one bit. Only explicitly gay shit is disgusting to me. Wonder why this is. I would even be fine if my son comes out as gay as long as he doesn't bring his partner to my house or display physical contact with him in front of me.I even enjoyed Kuroshitsuji back then, really good show even with all the clearly gay undertones.
>>719334052Not romance in SMT is explicit. Which is actually a nice thing. People forget that subtly is always better.
>>719333868Yes anon, Yoko is living rent free inside MC and Aogami's shared space.
>>719334268Because you absorbed her when going into the throne, remember? However the demon haunt clarifies that she probably gets ejected out like Tao was which is probably what that scene is showing most likely. The game never explains why you absorb the creation goddess and presumably end her by doing so (at least on CoC because there is nothing to suggest Tao ever comes back out) but it's probably safe to assume you can shit her back out if you want to, otherwise she's no different from demon essence.
>>719334704Yes I agree with you.
>Enjoying SMT IVAwhen am I suppose to hate it?
>>719335207When the HRT kicks in.
>>719335207Never. Enjoy your kino.
>>719335207bananacakes
>>719280057VV is on sale right now.Is the deluxe version worth? Or is it p2w shit?
>>719326617>what is nocturne
>>719335339shitty Atlus postgame garbage + the overpowered shit you need to play shitty Atlus postgame garbage
>>719335276Homeslice!I'm playing with jp dub
>>719335339the dlc demons are fine, the grinding stuff can be turned off
>>719333963Dagda is a meme but Konohana Sakuya is by far the best healer in the entire game.
>>719335469Did someone re-TL the english for that or is it "dubtitles"
>>719335469baaaaased>>719335564It's dubtitles and Apoclypse's translation is genuinely awful. And I'm not talking about adding wokeshit or puns or whatever, I'm talking about them straight up translating less than the characters are actually saying.
>>719335276I wish I had a banana cake...
What does Shin Megami Tensei says about Japanese and their Mythology lore?
>>719280129>>719299265seething chud babble award
>>719333368Redux is worth it alone for the true Final Boss.
>>719335417Freedom end was neutral. Maniax is the stupid fantiction of Yamai.
>>719335684they're usually your patrons and friends on the neutral routes, and the neutral routes are usually the least comically evil. Clear homer bias for jap devs>>719335843Man the original SJ boss was such an annoying grinding spike, is more really better
>>719335207You're not supposed to hate. You are supposed to lament the dogshit characters that pal around with you and cringe at some of their scenes but the rest of the game is great.
>>719335207When you get to that part where you have to fight 3 bosses back to back with no saves or heals between them.
>>719335684Usually semi-neutral but also not nearly as important.
>>719335932Shekinah managed to be even worse bullshit than MA, but I really like her theme, design, and the buildup to her. I like that they did something with the Three Wise Men because they always felt underexplored in the original game.
>>719335207It’s one of the best games in the series if you look past the anime side characters. And sometimes even the anime side characters have interesting moments. The gameplay is so nice.
>>719336072That part almost filtered me but then I endured and continued (until YHVH almost filtered me) and I'm glad I did.
>>719336114For some reason whenever I try to start Redux every cell in my body tells me to drop it even though I really liked DS SJ.
>>719336162>>719336014I like the characters though.
>>719336350Feel like a lot more people would like them if they played with Jap voices. Then again, there's people who unironically like the awful sounding Eng Trannybino in V, so who knows.
>>719336172Which route did you almost get filtered by YVHV? I remember the hate route being so easy. The godslayer sword user just gave him multiple weakenesses all the time.
>>719336428YHVH fight doesn't change much between routes, all you get is a different secondary party.If you're on bonds you want to keep them alive and contribute to the damage.If you're on anarchy you want them to die as quickly as possible, they harm you more than help you.
>>719336428Friendship route.
>>719333021I thought there was an extra boss fight? Really I would rather have fought the harder boss on my Akira file, I had way better weapons and a better party.
>>719336563It does change. In friendship you’re, Nanashi has to hit him with the sword, losing out in the action economy. In the hate route, someone else does it for you. Pretty often, too.At least that is how I remember, it has been a while.
>>719336738I thought Flynn used the sword
>>719336738You're thinking about shesha fight, in yhvh fight in both routes flynn has the godslayer sword. And not like using ame no habakiri is mandatory, sheesha can be fought with almighty attacks it would just take longer.
will they remaster smt nine?
Man I kind of regret starting with SMTVV cause going back to play 3 is kind of ass in comparison.
>>719300895I haven'tObjectively best Atlus rerelease girl
>>719335901Cope all you want, but demi-fiend in everyother appearance is TDE demi-fiend
>>719332885Morgana literally says the same shit and I doubt you fujoshits would care about Aogami if he was a talking cat
>>719337034I started with IV and it still feels like ass to go back and play III.
I started at 1 and it feels okay to go forward and play 3.
I'm playing IVA and III at the same time and it feels whatever to go back to III. Granted I'm just finishing up TDE.
