Why couldn't they just make a straightforward sequel?
>>719285990she is so green
>>719286332And that's a green thing
I hate that they left it so long that any sequel now would have to be made by modern Ubisoft.
Ubisoft formula cooked their brains.
>>719285990they're retarded
>>719285990For some reason they decided to treat it like it was a massive blockbuster franchise they had to really bank the name and setting on for a giant AAA MMO...thing. Even though it was a critically well received game that underperformed in sales and was lucky to have a sequel greenlighted at all.
>>719287054Games really peaked when they looked like this. What the fuck have devs been doing for the past 20 years?
Jade was a good girl boss and I'm tired of pretending she's not.
>>719287054It came out on Xbox at a time when GTA and Halo were big.
>>719287227I wasn't aware anyone disliked her.
>>719285990I got this for the gamecube AND ps2. That cliffhanger still bugs me. Played better on the gamecube, too
>>719287324There were a number of reasons it flopped in sales but nonetheless it did, and it was weird to bank on it like it was a big franchise rather than an acclaimed game that underperformed but had potential to grow with a sequel since the first was quite acclaimed. If it had come out in 2011 or 2012 and simply built on the first game like a normal sequel you could have had a new series.
The biggest lie about this game is the idea its a zelda game. No, its a stealth "action adventure" game.You barely acquire new items, mostly collecting codes and keys.And even charitably comparing zeldas own lack of true puzzles. BGE doesnt even attempt to pretend it has puzzles.At most, tricking some guard into walking into electric wires is the closest the game comes to "puzzle solving".Prove me wrong.
>>719286332She's green for an amazing reason!
>>719287192>What the fuck have devs been doing for the past 20 years?
>>719286491>no green lipstick
>>719288514Yes, my horse IS made of stars!
>>719288154>its a stealthI don't remember there being a ton of stealth in this game, but I remember hitting a lot of bugs with a stick while solving Zelda style block puzzles.
>>719287054The only reason it got a sequel at all was Anita Sarkissian glazing the first game in a video
>>719288582...what the fuck are you talking about...it sounds like youre talking about sphinx and the mummy
>>719288595No it was because Michael Ancel was a big name in the 2000s and the game was a critical darling, so they managed to get a followup greenlit after a few years of it having a strong reputation.
>>719285990>Play this like a gazillion years ago>Think she might be a prototype girlboss>Start watching some cutscenes and she's never super sarcastic, treats her bumbling friend with respect and thanks everybody before the final boss
>>719285990why cant you just get a job?
>>719288652Nah, I remember Beyond Good and Evil having a lot of sections where you walk through caves while bashing monsters with a stick. Sometimes you'd have Pey'j (or whatever partner you had for that chapter) weigh down a switch or something. The only stealth I recall is from an optional section for a pearl, though it has been years since I played it.
>>719288749Female leads actually weren't total trash before Marvel become the entirety of Hollywood.
>>719288876Oh my god, youre a retard wtf, youre literally talking about the very first level in the game wtf.Also pushing "blocks" along a fixed track is not a puzzle.
>>719285990As far as I could tell, the first game didn't do super hot, so getting a sequel greenlit was an upward battle of growing ambitions and chasing trends that might make it more marketable (i.e. a bigger, grittier world, more photorealism, potential multiplayer, etc). Now with Ancel gone it feels like they've lost the last driving force they might have had to get the project out of dev Hell.
Because Ansel decided that in order to tell the story immediately after the first game, it would require a prequel game to set everything up for some reason.
>>719288982There were definitely multiple cave sections in the game. I recall at least one other one past the opening dungeon where you're tasked to go take a picture of something on the other side of cave as a job from some mysterious informant. I don't remember much about what happens after Pey'j gets taken away, but I remember the stealth just being avoiding some spotlights in a few specific levels. I remember doing way more bug bashing and boat races than any of that.
>>719285990>Actual Moneky as a typical uneducated black person>Pair him up with a black womanAnd these people honestly think they're not the racist ones. Glad we're NEVER getting a second one. The new Devs WILL ruin it.
>>719288749It's a 2003 game, not a 2021 game
>>719289396You definitely have not played more than 5 hours of the game dude. What the fuck. The entire rest of the way is just stealth against the same enemies.
>it's Beyond Good & Evil...2>featuring....GaaS MMO space crew...thing!I don't remember any of this in Beyond Good & Evil 1
>>7192898940% chance any modern AAA publisher was going to greenlight an action-adventure collectathon. Nothing is allowed to exist that isn't some pseudo-RPG amalgamate.
>>719289894I don't think its going to be an mmo. It's been a while since I kept up with it, but I was under the impression it was going to be more of a PSO/MH type deal than a true mmo.
>>719285990I don't know, anon.We just don't know.
>>719290292I'm quite certain that game they showed at E3 2018 is long dead, if the title is still in development I imagine it's been rebooted for the third (fourth?) time.
>>719288154I wouldn't call the dungeons zelda-like but there were definitely puzzles. They were even better than Zelda in some ways, the pacing is a lot tighter. Had a lot better atmosphere too, felt like Ancel picked up right where Rayman 2 left off
This might be the most talked about and least successful game 'series' of all time.
>>719292827>I wouldn't call the dungeons zelda-like but there were definitely puzzles. They were even better than Zelda in some waysWTF? I cant tell if you mfers are lying to me. Do I need to replay the game? Im almost 100% certain theres not only more stealth than puzzles, but actually virtually no puzzles at all.>Had a lot better atmosphere too, felt like Ancel picked up right where Rayman 2 left offWhat exactly do you think he translated from Rayman 2? is it good?
>>719288154I never heard of this game being called a zelda-like
>Finally got a ps3>Buy this game>ps3 doesn't recognize the diskBetter than emulation they saidThe true way to experience the game they said
>>719293472Thats literally what everybody calls it. Yiu can even look at the first IGN review
>>719293004I recall one where you had to open a door by swinging a fan blade around plus pretty much the entire final dungeon with the light reflection puzzles.Exploring the oversized industrial areas felt like something right out of Rayman 2 and the heavy use of lasers throughout. Even some of the music would fit in both games
>>719294684>I recall one where you had to open a door by swinging a fan blade around plus pretty much the entire final dungeon with the light reflection puzzles.Interesting...I dont remember this but maybe i didnt get far enough. >like something right out of Rayman 2 and the heavy use of lasers throughout.Is Rayman 2 puzzley? What makes it good?
gawdlike
>>719285990>approved by Anita SarkeesianDropped
>>719295928Retard
>>719294802NTA but I remember those puzzles. Finding and striking those weird cave blob things at the right angle could be considered puzzles as well.But Rayman 2 is even less about the puzzles, it's absolutely an action-platformer first and foremost. Most "puzzles" are just figuring out how to navigate terrain efficiently. It's good because of how everything ties together though, the environment design, music, characters and gameplay loop all come together into one very comfy package. It's absolutely a precursor to BG&E in that way, even if they are different genres.
>>719286491what's up with her face shape here?>>719288595it far predates her relevance, don't be retarded
>>719296986That's from the trailer for Beyond Good & Evil 2 at E3 2018, they showed a younger Jade at the end of it.
>>719296662>t.libcuck
Good question.
>game ends on a cliffhanger>against all odds, get a sequel>make it a prequel
>>719299267based, a game series with as much potential and bge should be a trilogy.the problem is the "sequel" not releasing already
>Switch port is 30 fps for some reason>The GC verson was mostly 60Must have added some bloat. Does it run better on Switch 2?
>>719299692wondering this too, wanna pirate it
>>719293561Grab a torrent for the pc version. I maybe even be aviable in gog version
>>719297426>>719286491Wait, wasn´t the crew for BG&E 2 a gorilla and a nigress?
>>719300256youre mentally retarded
nailed it
>>719300324Maybe, now answer my question or gtfo.
>>719300361>>719297426The game gets a cult following because of how charming the story and world are, thanks to its stylization.>Get rid of the charm for GRITTY realism and disgustGod I hate them. Kill it, kill it with fire.
>>719286491still kind of cute but there's no reason to go for realism when the original had a pleasing cartoony artstyle
voice actress is fucking dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxKBCLPP20shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjZCIsPyRGc
>>719300924That doesn't matter anymore.
>>719285990I went in expecting a Zelda-like but it's not. Tbh the game is just kind of alright, nothing special, but I could see someone convincing themselves that it was if it was one of the only 3 games they had for their PS2.
So what's the consensus on the remaster?https://store.steampowered.com/app/2556990/Beyond_Good__Evil__20th_Anniversary_Edition/
>>719301113I think a lot of the positivity around the game is due to the atmosphere and characters. Ive played it through a few times and absolutely love it.
>>719301113>I went in expecting a Zelda-like but it's not. This. I wonder if this tainted my perspective, i mentioned this earlier in the thread, but when I kept getting spammed with basic ass stealth I got bored. I expected more interesting gameplay elements. Apparently I stopped playing before that showed up.I like zelda less because its good and more because the progression of acquired items and abiltities to affect the enviroment with as more than just keys to unlock a door (well...sometimes) is something that is surprisingly unbelievably unique, especially the part of dedicated segregated, enclosed levels that exist solely to demonstrate the potential ways that item can be used to manipulate or affect the enviroment (well...sometimes...)Thats why even though most zelda likes are shit because most zelda is shit. That unique factor is enough to maintain an interst. You want to see what new thing you can do with this new abiltity or item in this new game, that has different items from zelda, and see what cool stuff can be done.Most of the time though its either a glorified key for a lock, or glorified rock beats scissors.I dont really know what that unique factor of BGE is.
>>719285990I remember loving the game all those years ago, but I was never able to actually finish it. Never even seen the ending, but i assume i was at the final boss. Your controls would be inverted, and every single time, it would freeze on me. Was the ending kino?
>>719301589Yeah me too i couldn't finish that race
>>719285990Would she date anons?
>>719301793No. Jade is actually pretty boring and normal.
Any porn of her?
>>719302281Jade is absolutely NOT for lewding
>>719285990The original didn't sell well enough so that there wasn't a big enough push at any time.
>>719302364that doesn't explain anythingwhy did they try to use it as the basis of their AAAA MMO thing then?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsoIUHDrPcg&pp=0gcJCf8Ao7VqN5tD
>>719302428>use it as the basis of their AAAA MMO thing then?what is the proof it was ever going to be an MMO?
>>719286332Because red would mean stop.
>>719302538As in "massively multiplayer". Their whole pitch for the 2017/2018 re-reveal was it being online with players being space crews and going between multiple planetsAnd some shit about players making assets for the game if I recall.
>>719302281Yes but it's all low quality
>>719302681>was it being online with players being space crews and going between multiple planetshm i do feel like I remember hearing something like that.ubisoft is just unmatched at making the most anti videogames decisions ever arent they.
>>719286491It was the funniest shit ever when they announced BGE2 and the woke whore came on stage to say it takes place "before the birth of Jade" only for them to drop this trailer year later after backlash and suddenly look, Jade is here lmao.Most obvious case of dev hell and them having no fucking idea what they're doing.
>>719302963>cult classic >don't include main elements from said cult classic in sequel, actually it's a prequel now ok, buy itYou already have a small amount of things to draw on for "stuff people may recognize", and Jade and a camera are two of them. Real smart to not feature them front and center there.Then again it was seemingly not even the same genre from what they were showing,
>>719300256I think there was a time when the game was a "manage your own squad" like Watchdogs Legion
>>719301332Just an HD port, no relevant changes
>>719302538https://www.ign.com/articles/2017/06/15/e3-2017-beyond-good-evil-2-is-a-massively-ambitious-rpg
Original announcement trailer from 2008https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nh6qcfSEg4The only footage we got of whatever the original project was, this was a leak from 2009 so not an official trailer. It's not completely unlike the 2003 game but definitely more PS3 generation with the more cinematic styled gameplay and colour palettehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDc6SbqRLhUThen we heard nothing for years, til the weird multiplayer prequel thing at E3 2017 and 2018, then silence again ever since.The 2017 trailer and the stage presentationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9VPnI34dPwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_jCaoJsjOkDitto for 2018https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpoE8HQneFwAncel isn't even at Ubisoft anymore so who the fuck knows what state the project is in 2025.
>>719303540>You’ll create a character - either human or Hybrid, who has a unique background that will affect their story and place in the world. If I chose to play as a Hybrid, for instance, I might begin as a former slave, or experience anti-Hybrid prejudice. “[Players] start very low on the social scale, like, with sh**ty little TukTuks,” jokes Shrager, continuing that the main goal of the game is to build up your pirate crew. “The important thing is it's not a game about fighting [or] about making a big ship, but meeting others and discovering futures,” Ancel says. While there will be RPG and action elements, the real focus will be on building relationships and creating unique stories around the world(s) with both other players and your NPC crewmates.What has any of this got to do with Beyond Good & Evil, the video game from 2003?
>>719304063Ansel says it right there, futures. It was meant to give more context on the why of the world, explaining the hybrids, Jade's hidden past, and the domz and what her ties were to properly to set up for everything in the continuation of where 1 left off.
>>719286491I'M GONNA KILL PRAXIS
>>719303570she cute
>>719304276How about you just make a sequel like a normal series?
>>719304276There's nothing there that can't be included in a straightforward sequel carrying forward the gameplay of the original game with natural advancements. You don't need a "multi planet simulation space crew online RPG", especially when their 2017 pitch said Jade isn't even born yet, let alone getting backstory filled in.
>>719285990It kills me. It doesn't even have tons of competition as a 3D Zelda-like. And now even NINTENDO isn't making those. All they had to do was make ANOTHER. 3 year turnover, easy. We could have had this in fucking 2006
Was he based?
>>719304886Carlson & Peters states, and I quote:"He based."
>>719304886I don't think they can keep his name anymore
>>719289204There was potential in a prequel story because the Jade-Shauni plot twist came out of nowhere and felt like an asspull to resolve the plot quickly, as the game was originally supposed to be a lot longer. A prequel where you play as Jade's parents on an alien planet and they steal her away from the DomZ could've been cool.
>>719305025> because the Jade-Shauni plot twist came out of nowhere But they start establishing it right at the beginning, before Pey'j saves you from the DomZ during the first level
>>719286332
From the reception segment on Wikipedia>From this day forth, Michel Ancel is no longer 'the creator of Rayman'. From now on, he is 'the genius that brought us Beyond Good & Evil' [...] Cast out amongst a slew of Christmas blockbusters, BG&E rises above them all and leaves an indelible impression -Tom Bramwell of Eurogamer>Dan Toose of BAKA called the game's setting "dark, baroque and earthy, a far cry from the squeaky-clean action of the Final Fantasy games," and described the game as "a very European take on the role-playing genre" and "one of the best adventure games in years".What were they smoking? A very European take on rpg game?
>>719306160>Dan Toose of BAKAIt says right there he's dumb.
No way in hell the sequel didn’t get quietly canceled right? Or was there confirmation?
>>719303570Sorry for the BG&E fans who just wanted a simple sequel
>>719286332She was blue she would die.
>>719306196Kek, it autocorrected initials of Sydney Morning Herald. Although the fact that the guy wrote for tabloid explains his words.
>>719306248The only updates on the game the past few years have been announcements that it isn’t cancelled.
>>719297524Nah m8, you're the cuck>I can't play this beloved cult classic because some woman who owned me 13 years ago likes it too You're Anita's good little sub forever, lmao
WATCH OUT JADE
>>719300361>replace with cutie asian heroine with 3 monkeyswhy'd they do it?
You now remember:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlrIRahS81A
>>719307443https://youtu.be/dkd-P2vaIc4
>>719301589I'm sorry anon, but the ending was super kino. And you missed it. And the stinger? Double super kinoyou could always go back and play the game again today, or just watch it on youtube
>>719307432A monkey is objectively a great choice for a platformer
>>719307630you think they wanted the DKC audience?
Why is this game so good, though? The gameplay is incredible simple. The story is transparent and straightforward. But...The characters are charming and genuine. The world is believable, detailed, and fantastically realised. The game immerses you and makes you emotionally involved. So I guess you don't need gameplay or story to become an enduring cult classic.
>>719285990Because everything ubishit does turns into open world goyslop.
>>719285990At this point they should've just cut their losses, back to square one and make a Beyond Good and Evil 2 game with no bullshit. Like what's the point anymore? No one's gonna play BG&E live service game anyway.
>>719285990BGAE’s problem was that it morstly appealed to somewhat precocious children. Too mature for regular small kids, far too childish for teenagers and adults.
>>719285990Why couldn't they just make her straight?
>>719311430Huh? She was just single, not gay
>>719285990Why did Ubisoft let Michel Ancel spend an ungodly amount of money on BG&E2 when the first was a massive flop? They had to give away unsold copies of BG&E with cheese in 2009
>>719311430>>719312047Ya know she probably set up ger AI assistant to her 'tastes' if you know what I mean
>>719288154I played it this year for the first time and loved it because it felt like a 3D Zelda-lite adventure with a few dungeons, a few items and a few puzzles here and there. It felt nice to play a game like this again even if it was quite limited in scope, BOTW and TOTK both suck as Zelda games. >>719288876There are decent chunk of stealth sections you're forced into during the game where being detected usually means that red laser gun will zap you to death or something. I remember I was stuck in the Slaugherhouse for a long time because of some of the stealth sections and there's a big part of the game where Jade is exploring the rooftops at night in the city and needs to avoid dozens of patrols. I'd say in the main missions you're doing a lot of stealth (and in some cases you *can* avoid it and fight if the game lets you) but you're mostly doing other stuff that's *not* stealth.
>>719312417BG&E got an online popularity boost around the time the likes of Deus Ex, Serious Sam, System Shock 2, etc were hitting cult status due to forum glazing years after their forgotten launches turned them into Software Etc bargain bin finds, so the logical choice would be to make a sequel for a game that clearly DID have an audience - just not one they saw at the time. Print was king back then, and online commentary was still seen as Usenetters screaming at the Tiny Toons staff by professionalsThe problem was that Ubi was about to go all-in on Asscreed as well when the first Pey'j teaser pic was dropped, and in addition to Rayman Legends, those leaks show Ancel ALSO was working on a canned Rayman 4, so what's going on with BG&E2? Nobody can tell, and it was just a paper launch at this point, you can't help but wonder if all parties involved just threw a quick teaser together to gauge interest based on said-cult status - which is what people did, and about an unfocused decade later, BG&E2 looks like it's pulling a DNF by jamming-in every single modern gaming gimmick it can
>>719313696Secundo is a gigolo?
>>719285990Woke.
>>719300256BG&E 2 has been at least 3 different games at this point throughout the long and disjointed tale of its lack of development.
Seems like an appropriate thread.QRD on The Longest Journey series?
>>719314465Longest Journey and Syberia represent the last adventure games, a game genre that fizzled out and left us all the worse for it.Would play again/10
>>719285990>straightforward sequel?Ancel doesn't like those>>719312417Because he's an OG and buddy buddy with Guillemot. And his rabbids made fortune by accident.
Don't mind me, just posting an obscure background waifu.
>>719285990back then she looked 'alternative' now she would be a 10/10 by western game female designs
>>719303570>2008holy shit, it surpassed Duke Nukem at this point, doesn't it
>>719314624We don't talk about Dreamfall Chapters
>>719315086Yeah we don't necessarily talk about the latter Syberia entries either lol
>>719285990Honestly, the first game wasn't really all that good. It has this reputation as some underappreciated classic, but in reality it kinda sucked.
>>719314624>represent the last adventure gamesWalk into traffic, sperg
>>719315263Okay fine I never played them or any other adventure game either you happy now? I just wanted to belong...
>>719315213It didn't have much gameplay, but it was very coherent, a proto-movie game except good. If you put SM64 at a "gameplay first" pole and Rayman 2 at a "presentation first" pole, then BG&E is even further out in the Rayman 2 direction.
>>719303570now that they're in bed with tencent, maybe they'll de-nog it and go back to asian aestheticslet's hope so
>>719285990Played the game sometime in the 2010s, and while it had relatively simple gameplay, the world and characters really kept me engaged. It had that very distinctive 'french sci-fi' feel to it. We really don't get games like that anymore. Your Omicron The Nomad Soul and what not..
>>719315086Why?
>>719301332managed to fuck up her belly button of all things by making it lighter than the rest of her skin so it looks like some weird vitiligo insteadunforgivable
It's still in dev
Imagine...
>>719307432Because they are leftists retards who want to push a message.
