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FF16 might legitimately be the worst final fantasy in a very very long time, maybe as far back as FF3 (the original FF3 NOT FF6)

Even ff12 had some redeeming features. Personally, I hated ff10, but many people look back on it fondly. Nobody is gonna look back on ff16 fondly.

It's actually kind of incredible. How did yoshi p's team, responsible for making one of the best FF games ever (ff14), fuck this up so badly? It's like they set out to try to make a game for chuds instead of a game for final fantasy fans.
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>>719290842
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trump has to open mental asylums again

3 years with the same shit every day
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>>719291078
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CRPG style combat ala Divinity:Original Sin 2 should have been the natural evolution. OR, they should have just stuck to the FF12 system, which IMO was near perfect.
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>>719290842
I see that Barry still frequents this board
I wonder if he still sees Yoshi - P everywhere
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>>719290842
You never completed 12 so shut the fuck up.
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Real. Ff16 is like if the next ffxiv expansion was about going on a campaign subjugating the savage hordes of a foreign land.
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>>719291205
barry would not praise ff14
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The least ambitious Final Fantasy...
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FF16 has the best story of the franchise and the best set pieces

7R is pure troon shit that no one cares anymore, and 15 was a cancer that killled the ffranchise, was even mocked in national television lol
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>>719291416
This is certainly one of the chud opinions of all time. I guess to you any story about the great white man is a masterpiece.
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>>719291416
Can you explain what the story of the game is?
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>>719291307
True, I didn't read it past the first line
He would most likely go on a tangent about how good FF15 was, which is barely even a game in my opinion
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>>719290842
>the original FF3 NOT FF6
You're not on facebook, you stupid fucking faggot. Completely unnecessary
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>>719291416
Holy
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>>719291546
An allegory about how bad capitalism in its final stages can be. The need for change is so strong that even knowing that the lives of ordinary citizens will become harder, sacrifices must be made to ensure everyone's future. That's why Clive takes on the burden of revolution; he will save everyone, and he will do it on his own terms, accepting whatever comes as a price, even if the price is his own life
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>>719291904
>thinks a story about a communist jesus is good
uh...huh
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>>719291416
>FF16 has the best story of the franchise and the best set pieces
If FF16 would have actually continued the story on the political intrigue route rather than making it a generic protag saves the world type of story you would be correct, unfortunately what we got was just bland.
I do think that it has a good setting though, but not better than 7's or 6's setting
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>>719291973
Arent all the stories with heroes and villains the same?
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I was at least able to power through 16. I couldn't stomach 13 or 15. I miss overworlds (which are different from openworlds).
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>>719292032
The story never waves about what is trying to say

it just gets into the 1% that lies on the top and controls everything
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>>719292132
you mean only for final fantasy games or in general?
because if it's the latter then no
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>>719292189
13 problem to me was that it took a whole console gen to end

funny that today a game takes more time to be made and a console back then and every FF is taking longer to de made than all the fabula nova crystalis shit
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>>719290842
hyperbole XIV 1.0 is far and away the worst
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Its not that bad

The redeeming qualities are the okayish combat system, boss fights and the legendary soundtrack:

https://youtu.be/oLm40DaQ5YE?si=lk0Io4FVdd2Mf2mB

https://youtu.be/FTEwARTOEIw?si=xnQbLZzIrkJJzzgz
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I don't think it was the worst FF. I actually liked it quite a bit. However, it does have its flaws. It did look great and sound phenomenal. This is one of the best FF OSTs. Even though it's very serious it still presents itself as video gamey at time and has charm.
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>add party members (that you can control)
>make it actually open world or semi-open world
>make the sidequests not suck ass
>change the ending so it doesn't suck ass
There, I just fixed FFXVI. At least for myself.
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>>719290842
This game would have been amazing if it just had any fucking challenge at all

They put everything on 1 character action combat, then forgot to put an essential part of what makes games like dmc engaging
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>>719292303
Luke skywalker is a commie jesus

Superman is a commie jesus

Goku is a commie jesus

every thing is the same with a different color of paint
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>>719290842
skill issue
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>>719292471
>change the ending so it doesn't suck ass
That's all I really want
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>>719292494
At least the community is not as bad as 7R

All those faggots on twitter pretending that this shit story is good is cringe

that baby seal guy needs to be aborted

and NSP is the yong yea of jrpgs only read news and is terrible takes machine
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>>719291078
This can' be real, has to be fake or a bit
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>>719292573
I share your pain, brother
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>>719290842
FFXV was worse than XVI. Much worse
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>>719292432
Gonna add my favorite battle tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-nmRuXiKiA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ulIHN59w5A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBMUZR14TZc
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>>719292691
Blame max dood and 7R for it

somehow they thought that ambiiguity has a place in every story and it would make stupid retards to keep talking about it on social media

just accept that Clive died and Joshua lived and move on
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>>719292763
Ffxv at least felt like they were trying something different. FFXVI is the most bland, "safe" garbage designed to appeal to a specific set of whiney people so as not to draw the ire and boycotts of the media.
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imagine the conniption /v/ would have if a game like x-2 came out today
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>>719292813
do you know the lirycs of cascade?
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>>719292437
It seems kind of weird there are no in-game bonuses for arcade mode. Just high-scores.

I think the gameplay is better than Granblue Fantasy Relink, but Relink had a lot more side battles to do which were fun and you could actually get items/exp from them.
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>>719292859
Which is why XVI was mid but tolerable while XV was just iredeemable trash
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>>719292880
dont even joke with that
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it's terrible westernized game of thrones crap that was 10 years too late

I want a japanese game not witcher/got rpg
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>>719292898
Relink is way better because if you don’t like the gameplay you just pick a different character that plays different. If you don’t like doing the same shit with Clive for 50 hours you are cooked
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>>719292908
XV is the best worst game ever made

Its like The Room and Tabata is gamings tommy wiseau
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>>719292972
nigga you play dark souls
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>>719290842
FFXVI is the only Final Fantasy in a very long time.
Can't wait to see how FFXVII is even worse ten years from now
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>Just accept that Clive died and Joshua lived
lol
lmao
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>>719292898
Yeah the arcade was half baked. They should have treated it more like Kairos Gate with obtainable rewards and new fights. Unfortunately it was only in the leviathan DLC

>>719292895
the only thing I can kinda make out are the lines
"Deliver us from darkness, inescapable

Oh deliver a blessing to see us through the night"
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>>719290842
iirc yoshi p was kind of the "fixer" for a troubled dev cycle, the dude that could narrow down the scope and ship a game instead of getting too far into the weeds--they didn't want another ff15.
it's not a great game but the concept of a devil may cry-like spectacle heavy action game was kind of a clever way to pull together the assets they had. there's so good stuff in there
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>>719292835
>just accept that Clive died
That is how I see the ending, and that's what makes it extra shit.
Killing the MC at the end rarely ever works.
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>>719292471
>Open world
Please hang yourself
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16 feels like it should be an 8.5/10 but with how fondly I think of it, I'd say it's a fair 9.
I love the characters, love the story, I prefer the fantasy setting and I think the gameplay is genuinely some of the best DMC-likes of the decade (the few we've had)

>>719292987
I think Clive has enough variety between the Eikons.
What would've really helped would be a way to assign assists/callouts (like Torgal) for Joshua and Jill.
Like, I feel they were 99% there on that system. Both Joshua and Jill have the full gamut of assist spells (Barrier, launchers, projectiles, etc), but they just dropped it out of nowhere.
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>>719290842
https://x.com/aitaikimochi/status/1740473429848179090?s=46&t=euLdnf3Z7aP9BOIxJR9E-A
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>>719293479
hang deez nuts over your face
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I knew 16 wasn't going to advance beyond mediocre the moment I entered the desert and there were no cactuars. I spent the whole game waiting for a Tonberry as well. Unforgivable. I don't care that the DLC added a Tonberry. It should have been in the base game. The game was confirmed shit when the Odin fight didn't have a monster battle. I had been looking forward to that fight since the trailers.
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>>719292859
Lmao, what exactly was XV did you deem "them trying something" different? Also, what's the point if them "trying something different" if it's resulted in a bad product. The game went through MULTIPLE combat changes and it still hadn't finalized the combat system a year before the game releases. Episode Duscae's combat was so different to what the final game's combat was. Some even argued that the Ep Duscae's combat was better.
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>>719292471
>change combat from flashy drivel X to Awesome, bring elemental damage and weaknesses back
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>>719290842
ff2 is really shit
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>>719290842
I see FF3 as obsolete with 5 being a better version. But I wouldn't say it's bad.
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I really liked it
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>>719294869
I loved ff3 3d when I played it on DS.
When I replayed it on Steam, I couldn't believe I held it in such high regard.
I played 5 PR like 2 months ago, and it's one of the best FFs. I'd love for 5 to get a 3D remake similar to 3 and 4.
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FF16 is an amazing 20 hour action game stretched into a middling 80 hour game with half-assed RPG mechanics shoved in that ruin the action game elements.
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Why do people keep trying to force this meme? XIII got a whole trilogy and all three were shit, and XV was shit too. XIV 1.0 was also a colossal failure. Is it just because it's the newest game?
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>>719292835
Except Clive lived and Joshua died
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>>719293501
>the gameplay is genuinely some of the best DMC-likes of the decade
What gameplay? The game is so easy it practically plays itself.
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Its the worst FF since XV
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>>719291416
15 was cancer but 7Remake was descent and 7rebirth was great. 16 was fantastic despite not having a proper party. It's basically a rough diamond. It would have been incredible if we could have played as other characters and if the game didn't have pink shit skies for 30% of the game

>>719292032
It wouldn't be final fantasy of it didn't follow anime tropes like the power of friendship and killing God
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Performance fell off again. Who coded this game? Barry?



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