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Cant wait for Nintendo to sue Hoyoverse into bankruptcy.
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>>719314481
>Suing a chink company which is owned by the CCP
Good luck
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>patenting game mechanics
this shit should be outlawed
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>>719314481
Nintendo truly has become Disney
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>>719314581
nintendo patent system in japan should be remade
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>>719314481
>Can't wait for Nintendo to sue the chink company that earns monthly what Nintardo earns in a year
kek
You do know that since Sony anally raped them years ago in a lawsuit they only sue little companies that can't defend themselves and they still lose when they do right?
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>>719314693
Nintendo is literally the biggest video game company in the world with no competition. They'd win easisly.
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>>719314693
>Lost to a fucking central American supermarket
Nintendo are fucking clowns
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>>719314581
>patent game mechanics by adding them to old patents to target a specific game
it's unreal what nintendo gets away with desu
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>>719314481
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>how dare PS1 and 2 outsell the N64 and GCN
>Nintendo should get to sue and own the entire gaming industry as payback because everyone they/I don't like is Sony
This is, without exaggeration, literally where /v/'s Nintendo fanbase is mentally these days.
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hoyo is literally backed by the most powerful government on the planet
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>>719314734
They lost the lawsuit against Palworld
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>>719314734
Nintendo made 11 billion $ last year Mihoyo 5. But Mihoyo has full CCP backing so good luck.
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>>719314801
If you think that's unreal you should check unreal engine
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>>719314629
Their patents are so fucking retarded that they only "hold" in Japan and they know it
And seemingly not even that since there are talks that the Palworld devs are likely going to win the lawsuit
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>>719314882
Nintendo really thought they can patent fucking mounts. Mounts.
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>>719314816
Hoyo is backed by America?
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>Retards think Nintendo will sue every monster collector ever when it was only Palworld they targeted
They didn't target digimon or yokai watch back in the day.
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>>719314960
You can't ride horses in Japan unless you pay Nintendo a patent fee
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Pokemon will die in our lifetime and thats a good thing
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>>719314960
I find it hilarious that no one told them that even tho you CAN it doesn't mean you SHOULD
Like, you can patent pretty much whatever the fuck you want, but when you try to act on it in a normal country they will laugh you out of the courtroom and thank you for the tip
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>>719314971
Even if we assume USA as a country is still stronger (pffff) Chinese government has 10x more power.
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>>719314481
Their patents don't mean shit outside of Japan. Only Japs get cucked by tendo
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>>719315065
Chinese spies are found out monthly in several countries, same with spionage schemes, and their economy is pathetic (no anon leds on buildings are not economy)
US spies are never found
If you understood you understood
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>>719314542
this, they better need the backing of good old Trumf to have a better chance at it
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I think OP forgot something.
https://thegamepost.com/after-sony-horizon-lawsuit-light-of-motiram-dev-store-page/
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>get a dog
>get sued by nintendo for faking pokemon
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>>719315132
>According to German prosecutors, a former U.S. military contractor, identified as Martin D., was indicted on charges of offering sensitive military information to Chinese intelligence. The arrest took place in Frankfurt, and the case has been widely reported in international media.
So does this consider US or Chinese?
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>>719314882
With how completely spoiled and up their own asses Switchfags have gotten here, the meltdown in the event of Nintendo losing the Palworld lawsuit could be legendary.
>>719314995
If anything that just makes their lawsuit look worse, showing that it's coming from a place of targeted jealousy and insecurity rather than sincere concern for their industrial well-being.
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Okay, and when is square enix going to sue nintendo?
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>>719314481
MHY isn't stealing designs or mechanics, though.
>>719314882
For the gorillionth time: it's the specific implementation of the mechanic. You are only infringing if you copy Nintendo's implementation instead of making your own.
>there are talks that the Palworld devs are likely going to win the lawsuit
You really believe western highschool dropout journos with zero understanding of law (not to mention Japanese law) who take every opportunity they can to shit themselves over Nintendo? I think they might be a little biased and unqualified.
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>>719314734
Nintendo wins by extending the case until the opponent runs out of money and they settle. Hoyo can last until it goes to court, in which Nintendo would have to fight on the merits of the patent and lose.
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>>719315361
>If anything that just makes their lawsuit look worse
Nintendo could easily kill genshin if they want to, they own patent for touchscreen control and won lawsuit over that said patent. Just because they can doesn't mean they will sue
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>>719314481
>China
Please god let them do this it’s gonna be so fun when China declares Nintendo “to be hated”.
The knowtow will be hilarious.
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>>719314734
They couldn't even beat palworld which was made by two homeless dudes living in a cave
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>>719315134
>asking Trump to weigh in on a case involving Chyner
Yeah Nintendo is 100% fucked in that case lmao
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>>719314734
>with no competition

They are suing in panic because they have competition. Nintendo revenue is nosediving since 2021.
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>>719314581
>>719314629
>>719314801
hah, wait until you find out why no other survival horror game has a "sanity mechanic"
Nintendo has always been scumbags. They just brainwash people with Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon to make them think that they were your friends.
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>>719314481
i hate nintendo but i hope they sue shittoyo and win
i am so tired of shittoyo slop
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>>719315475
Most Nintendo sales are fake now, why do you think their games sell 4 trillions yet revenue doesn't project that nor you see their games being discussed online
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>>719314581
>Digimon time stranger has nintendo patented monster riding
>...
That's right bitch, try and sue Bamco, a billion dollar toy making behemot.
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>>719314481
I hope China nukes Nintendom
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>>719314734
They lost a lawsuit against a fucking supermarket.
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>>719314995
Digimon is Bandai Namco (and Toei). And Nintendo & Bamco have been in bed for decades. Why would Nintendo purposely antagonize one of their closest allies?
Yokai Watch, when it was popular, was exclusive to Nintendo consoles. You had to buy a 3DS if you wanted to consume Yokai Watch. That's why Nintendo didn't give a shit when Yokai Watch 4 jumped ship to Sony, because the IP was basically dead at that point.

The big deal about Palworld and Pocket Pair, is that Nintendo is seeing none of that money. If you want to play Palworld, you don't even have to look at Nintendo's direction to do so. That's what pisses Nintendo off about the whole Palwaorld situation.

Because we all know if Palwaorld was a Switch or Switch 2 exclusive, Nintendo wouldn't even look in their direction.
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>>719315482

They don't own touchscreen controls, you cannot own an idea. They might own a specific implementation but they'd only have a case if someone copied that exact method of touchscreen control.
Note: this is only outside of Japan, which is a shit hole that allows Nintendo to patent non-specific things after someone else has done them.
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>>719315482
>Could
You were not following along when we were saying that Nintardo patents don't hold for shit out of Japan AND only against way smaller companies were you?
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>>719315473
You are a retard nintardo
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>>719315865
They never sue companies that have funds... I wonder why?
Might it be that they know their patents are retarded and useless? Nah surely not, right nintrannies?
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>>719315132
>US spies are never found
Years a go a bunch of American glowniggers were executed in China after they were caught due to relying on fake gaming websites for communicate.
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Palworld won.
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>>719315827
I really wouldn't be surprised if Sony and Nintendo were both cooking their books for the past decade. Especially with Sony, given the multiple emergency moves they've had to take to counteract how terribly software sales have trended on PS5.
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>>719315967
It was one of the few third party games that actually sold well on Nintendo.
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>>719316147
GODMORNING SIRS
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>>719315721

They were down in 2024, that's it. Revenue for '22 and '23 was up from 2021, so "nosediving" is a pathetic cope, even from you.
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>>719314481
another monster catching game (if you can even call gacha slop that) with generic monster designs
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>>719316304
Nigger nintendo has been near bankruptcy for decades lmao
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>>719316141
>They never sue companies that have funds
Nintendo sued Colopl and won tho
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>>719316147
I'm pretty sure America's only successful foreign spy operation in the past 50 years was Donnie Brasco. And that was Italy, which is kind of a "gimme" for an American to blend in and mimic.
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>>719316248
>doesn't know Indian nationalists hate China
They just got anally raped during the war with Pakistan since the pakis used Chinese tech. They are constantly humiliated as their tech and gaming sectors are way inferior to those of China.
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>>719315473
Gaijins at large are unfortunately too dumb to understand even the simple concept that patent law =/= copyright law
Or that plenty of Japanese companies are a lot more trigger-happy with said patents compared to Nintendo itself, so the idea of the Pocketpair CEO being some kind of Japanese lolcow who got himself in trouble enough to attract the anger of some vidya giant (and not because of Palworld's ephemeral success) is a possibility.
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>>719316430
There is also no degrees of separation between the mafia and the CIA. They are one and the same.
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>>719314481
Nintendo has to sue or Palworld wins since their defense is based on saying that nintendo is intentionally targeting only them and ignoring other games "infringing" on the supposed patent.
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>>719316304
>Nintendo annual revenue for 2024 was $11.536B, a 2.67% decline from 2023. Nintendo annual revenue for 2023 was $11.852B, a 21.45% decline from 2022.

LMAO ok
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>>719314481
Hand Nintendo the money now Hoyoflop
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>>719316607
So are they gonna sue every game with mounts?
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>>719316772
They have to or Palworld wins.
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>immediately lose the case in China and the USA due to the frivolous nature of the lawsuit
>be forced to pay a fine to Hoyo due to reputational damage
>also now all Nintendo products are banned in China forever
We love to see it, don't we folks.
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>>719316445
Why would I care what fucking indians do lmao
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>>719316403
>They never sue companies with funds
>They sued Asspoopiss and won tho!
what
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>>719315967
Didn't the leak showed that GF shat themselves when they saw Yokai Watch's success?
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>>719316772
Basically Pocketpair's defense is: Reality
That nintardo only sues them because they are a small company and they don't sue big companies because they know their patents are fucking retarded and useless and would lose
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>>719314481
How about telling gamefreak to create one good pokemon game?
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>>719314481
>animals are not obvious Pokemon Ripoff

They are gucci. You morons still dont understand the Nintendo vs Palworld battle.
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>>719317145
LMAO
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>>719317024
Game Freak shits themselves over everything because they know Nintendo has the power when it comes to Pokemon.
They may own 1/3rd of the IP, but Nintnedo holds the other 2/3rds, as they own Creatures, who owns the other 1/3rd of the IP.
That's why Game Freak has been trying (and failing hard) to branch off from Pokemon with other games. Their next game is that Soulsborne Not-Wo Long ripoff that was revealed during one of the State of Plays.
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>>719316936
You are the one bringing them up.
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>>719316462
Then why did nintardo copy Palworld? They are seething because of its success.
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>>719316462
They are excessively servile to authority and prone to groupthink. Very rare to see Japanese guys actually doing their own research.
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>all this anti-nintendo seethe
Delicious.
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>>719317279
And you dickbreath still forget that ninten didn't sue Palworld because of the designs.
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>>719317279
So they only sued Palworld because they are an indie developer? That's just plain evil.
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>>719317621
>get humiliated by their former rival so hqrd they haven't made a new F zero game in 25 years
Kekaro.
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>>719317741
They sued because of patents that they made after the game was made and they also changed them during the trial.
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>>719317509
You are the one that doesn't know how to speak English Rakesh
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>>719317696
>because of the designs.
and this is why I keep saying you morons still believe it "about the mechanics"

Sure and Al-Capone was not a gangster, he was arrested just for Tax Evasion.
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>>719315752
Eternal Darkness? I haven't played that game in a long time
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>>719314481
Good fucking luck Nintendo. Go ahead and sue and Chink company in Chinkland and see how that goes for your retarded ass.
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>>719317896
Are you mentally retarded?
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>>719317943
Is this supposed to show how it looks nothing alike? This is made by a guy that faked every "analysis" because xer is a nintardo btw, it got found out like the next day it posted it
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>>719317859
I am ESL but you are retarded if you think all non-native speakers are Indian.
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>>719318009
no, im right.
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>>719317919
Yep. Nintendo patented it so no one else could use it, while they just sit on the idea forever, because they obviously will never revisit that game.
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>>719317896
You can't be this retarded you just contradict yourself in two posts. Lmao.
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>>719317896
Pro-tip: The CIA created the Italian Mafia.
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>>719318172
Right about WHAT you fucking mongoloid
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>>719317964
Anon... There is Precedent
>The Pokémon Company was awarded “substantial” damages as part of a settlement in a long-running lawsuit with the developers of Chinese copycat mobile game Pocket Monster: Remake.

>Pocket Monster: Remake launched in 2015 and appeared fairly popular, having earned upwards of around $42 million in a single year according to The Pokémon Company, as reported by The South China Morning Post in 2022.
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>>719317943
>Nintendo invented dogs
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>>719318241
That's copyright claim not patent steal.
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>>719318241
>Anon... There is Precedent
China don't give a fuck. They will steal your shit and when you sue them they will make you pay for it.
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>>719318241
Gee maybe because it was called fucking "Pocket Monster Remake" and used exact designs of Pokémon characters and mons.
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>>719317383
>but Nintnedo holds the other 2/3rds, as they own Creatures
this is almost completely false by the way. Nintendo doesn't own creatures at all.
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>>719317695
see: >>719317621
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>>719318241
That game was copying character designs 1:1.
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>>719318274
Correct.
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>>719318443
>nintendögs
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>>719318361
>China don't give a fuck
and Japan and America don't care what china thinks either. Nobody can stop china from violating copyright or patent law withing Chinese borders, but they can block the international release of chinese games.
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>>719315958
that one was ebin but the fact that they only lost because "well nintendo doesn't have supermarkets so there's no risk of confusion" instead of being laughed out of court is total bullshit
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>>719318565
I don't know the details of the case but claiming to own the name Mario seems pretty insane either way.
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>>719318503
I think Blizzard got their games banned in China which hurt them quite a bit.
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>>719318172
>i said so
No you are corpo-bootlicker
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>>719316156
>The edgy gay furry thinks Pocketpair will win

Oh no what ever will Ninten do?
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>>719319019
Tsumi
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>>719314481
>>719314542
retards
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>>719318274
>Nintendo invented
ADD IT TO THE LIST
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>>719319019
5, because there must always be a Kiana.
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>>719319019
>more men than women
So they are really going for the female audience this time.
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>>719319652
Until they pivot when they discover that the female focus stops paying out for them longterm since it's not a full-on period-tracking boyfriend simulator lol
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>autochess
but why
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>>719314481
death death to nintendo
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>>719314816
Hoyo is backed by Israel?
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>>719314481
>sueing chink
good fucking luck lol
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If you think that Hoyo didnt consult with lawyers and shit before pouring money into this game then you're retarded. This isnt some Japanese indie game cobbled together from sticks and mud by a team of 5, mihoyo wouldn't have even shown this trailer to the public if they weren't 100% convinced of there being no trouble with Nintendo
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>>719319019
I will of course be playing as literally me
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>Hoyo monster collector game
>Still focus on the humans
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>>719321918
half of those characters are kemonomimi tho
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>>719321918
It's the downfall era of Mihoyo. First they keep wasting resources with that bottomless pit called ZZZ, now they'll have another blunder to their name.
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>>719317621
Kys cultist
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>>719315967
>Because we all know if Palwaorld was a Switch or Switch 2 exclusive, Nintendo wouldn't even look in their direction.
It wouldn't even make it to switch if pocketpair ever submitted it since Nintendo would have sued for infringement.
That's all it is. It has nothing to do with how much money it makes or shit like that, it's just because they stole a patented version of the mechanic.
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>>719314801
People actually don’t understand the damage Nintendo has done to the Japanese indie scene.

There’s a reason that big indie releases are predominantly western. It’s literally because of nintendo. Most devs aren’t like palworld who get a gorillion sales and can afford to go to court with Nintendo
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>>719317024
No, not really. The documents basically said
>oh this is popular, how can we capitalise on it
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>>719316201
Yeah that's what I'm saying, Sony ips are dead and no, nobody cares about the ugly balding woman game, they even managed to ruin Kratos who every edgy kid loved , they are only surviving thanks to casuals buying cod and fifa
Nintendo sales are also suspicious, their games presence online is barely active, I only see the same millennials samefagging and even mods are desperate by just deleting more active non Nintendo threads while spreading Nintendo ones as much as possible
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>>719317000
Bitch, shironeko is huge in Japan
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Nintendo won't do shit because Hoyo isn't some small time nobody developer they can endlessly bully in court.
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>>719322234
>People actually don’t understand the damage Nintendo has done to the Japanese indie scene.
Which they haven't.
>There’s a reason that big indie releases are predominantly western
Because Japanese indies aren't usually published on steam they're usually hosted on other JP sites or sites like itch.io.
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>>719322537
That's not how that works. If they were infringing they would sue.
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>>719314481
Sorry, all your pokeymans have been expropriated for the glory of the communist citizens.
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>>719322645
Why do you think they never relased their game in switch despite announcing it multiple time?
They know Nintendo already blocking their games.
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>>719314481
Nintendo can fuck off and will bend the knee or else Switch 2 will be banned in China.
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>>719322645
No, they wouldn't. Nintendo ONLY takes it to court if they know they can win and Hoyo, unlike Pocketpair or others, can match their court stalling tactics for years.
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>>719322765
Get bent ching chong
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>>719322946
God please don't bring this back I am so tilted still from people pretending to be retarded not understanding what scaling is
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>>719315752
Off the top of my head Amnesia and outlast have "sanity" mechanics where your characters vision and audio get fucked with.
Pretty sure the patent on eternal darkness has expired too as they haven't used the mechanic since.
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>>719319019
designs are mostly terrible, but as i understand they combine styles from all Mihoyo games, so Genshin/HSR designs are the one looking awful


1,4,5,13 are decent, rest are crap
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>>719317695
>Censor image makes it look more lewd
Why do they always do this.
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>>719323068
You don't need to care about scaling if it isn't 1:1 anyway.
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>>719322843
>Nintendo ONLY takes it to court if they know they can win and Hoyo,
Hence
>If they were infringing they would sue.
>unlike Pocketpair or others, can match their court stalling tactics for years.
Anon, it's not the plaintiff that stalls, it's the defendant much like how pocketpair is stalling now by forcing Nintendo to reword the patent by claiming it was unclear.
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>>719323282
Of course they're not 1:1 people are saying they have enough similar elements that it likely used Luxray as a base
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>>719323437
Good, then palworld was never at fault.
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>>719319019
>New Girl, Kiana, Iron Mouse skin #492, and Knight are the only ones that don't look like overblown HSR slop
Telling.
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>>719319652
It's a "cute monster collector game" and it has long been implied this is more popular with girls.
This is the entire reason digimon exists, because tamagochi was too "cute" for boys so they made an edgy version to appeal to boys.
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>>719319019
4, 6, 8 and 9 have cool designs. Hags are botched, look like HSR troons.
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>>719323503
Except if it it was found that they took the model and edited it then it would be infringement
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>>719319019
6 looks like they took some random npc design from star ocean. 8 is the same but from Phantasy star instead while 14 is just toothpaste MC from engage in armor.
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They didn't sued genshin with Zelda, the thing is with pocketfair something more happened there we don't know maybe personal who knows
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Lmao, little Nintentards and Poltards think they could win against CN/Hoyoverse, lol.

It's day time here, a bit early for some wet dreams.
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>>719323557
>and it has long been implied this is more popular with girls.
Monster tamers have always been a male oriented genre, Tamagotchi was was made to appeal more to girls.
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>>719323692
You can go to Palworlds Jp handle and they posted all the design work showing this was never the case.
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>>719314581
Its not even that they patented the game mechanic. Palworld was in the clear and then Nintendo edited their patent AFTER Palworld released and then tried to claim infringement
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>>719319019
Looks more like digimon
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>>719319019
>all these ugly designs
i don't think nintendo has to worry about anything
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>>719324050
Nintendo didn't just randomly edit a patent it was done by request
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>>719324040
They also don't have any design documents just concept art.
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>>719324403
no ugly but boring character look so generic too
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>>719322645
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>719314542
nintenjew can't slam the banhammer on the game in china, but it certainly can in japan where a large swathe of revenue will come for this game, given its anime-style presentation. it also has massive presence in the u.s too, so these are 2 of the most important markets for mihomo.
this is all hypothetical, as i don't think nintendo has the balls to sue hoyo. they can't lawfare them to death like they do indie studios.
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>>719324050
>Palworld was in the clear and then Nintendo edited their patent AFTER Palworld released and then tried to claim infringement
You know they had to edit it because pocketpair claimed it was unclear correct? When a defence like that is used the plaintiff is obligated to reword the patent for clarity.
Keep in mind that it's ONLY for clarity. You can't change the patent itself.

Basically pocketpair was always fucked and they're getting desperate.
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>>719320454
Auto Chess is fun.
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Amazing how new monster tamer games coming and still none can't compete with digimon in designs, digimon always win
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>>719324050
>and then Nintendo edited their patent AFTER Palworld released and then tried to claim infringement
That's not how it works, you can change the wording of a patent but you can't change the function. So even if they didn't change the wording they would have still sued them.
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>>719320270
They can add those features tho.
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>>719319093
Yes, yes (you) are.
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>>719322234
Most Japanese indies either make porn or try to sell their games to forefingers on Steam.
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>>719322262
Ragnarok sold well tho. And most Nintendo sales are either from bundles or games with a cultish audience such as Zelda.
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>>719322645
Their claim is that they own mounts.
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>>719323760
>They didn't sued genshin with Zelda
Nintendo probably realized that claiming ownership over grass was a step too far.
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>>719322946
>Oh he has to scale it
>It means the rest of the fucking model is not a close 1:1 Match
Niggers all of you
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>>719314481
Won't happen because
>Mihoyo is Chinese so good luck on trying to sue them
>Mihoyo has much, much, much more money than Nintendo so their usual strategy of trying to outlast their opponent while draining them with legal fees won't work
And the funny part of it all is that they will very likely be forced to sue them because if they don't they'll risk losing the lawsuit with Palworld and maybe even lose the patent altogether because Palword would be able to say "you sued me but you're not suing them?" and have the case dismissed.
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>>719326296
No, no it isn't.
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>>719314542
fpbp, finally somebody can stand against tendo
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>>719314481
All the big companies should take nintendo to court and make them define what the fuck they mean by "animal mount" system. It's so vague, that it encompasses games going as far back as 1990. I love nintendo but they are fuckers that need to be bitch slapped back into place.
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>>719325827
Digimon just does whatever they want they don't have guidelines. So they can do anything from a cute blob to a guy with a jacket and a motorcycle.
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>>719327272
>>Mihoyo is Chinese so good luck on trying to sue them
Not how that works. You can't sue smaller entities in China because they'll just declare bankruptcy, take their money and start up somewhere else.
Larger companies that can't afford to lose everything like that can mist certainly be sued. Especially if they sell their product overseas.

>>Mihoyo has much, much, much more money than Nintendo so their usual strategy of trying to outlast their opponent while draining them with legal fees won't work
Nintendo's strategy is a swift decisive victory. In fact that's every company's strategy because they don't want to waste money.
Court cases are only dragged out by the opposition if they try and desperately fight it either to exploit something the plaintiff didn't notice or to buy time for them to find something.
They do this because if they win the judge usually awards them enough for their fees in addition to damages so elongating it isn't an issue for them.
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>>719327272
>And the funny part of it all is that they will very likely be forced to sue them because if they don't they'll risk losing the lawsuit with Palworld and maybe even lose the patent altogether because Palword would be able to say "you sued me but you're not suing them?" and have the case dismissed.
This isn't a copyright case you idiot, this is a patent case. It's not about the concept of mounts but the actual mechanic aka how it functions.
Unless mihoyo has done it in the exact same way Nintendo has then "WHY AREN'T YOU SUING THEM!?" isn't an argument because there's no reason to sue.
It's why pocketpair's examples were all thrown out.
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>>719314481
So what's the gimmick of this game? you know like how pokemon is pokemon and palworld is pokemon with guns
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>>719314481
>implying chinks adhere to copyright or patent laws
lol
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>>719314481
#KillNintendo
#NukeNintedoOfAmerica
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>>719328373
I'm convinced that these people are just paid marketers. Like, no one at this point can still be making these mistakes unless you're trying to force a narrative.
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>>719314481
A certain homosexual called Olímpio loves this company, he's probably masturbating over Nintendo being this evil.
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>>719326962
You're basically arguing that unless it's a perfect 1:1 clone down to the polygon, it's not infringement, which is hilariously wrong. Scaling a model doesn’t suddenly make it “original.” Copyright and patent claims aren’t about pixel-perfect parity - it's about whether the design or function is substantially similar in ways that matter. Palworld’s designs ride that line real hard, and Nintendo knows it.
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>>719328373
"Why aren't you suing them?" is a valid argument though since by not suing they show that they do not care about the patent and just want to harras palword
And let's not forget that Nintendo has changed the patent mid lawsuit so the case of it all being legal harassment is made much more apparent.
You could make a valid argument that they don't sue nobodies to not waste their time for peanuts but Mihoyo is literally one of, if not the biggest game dev on earth so that excuse won't fly. If they are not going to sue Mihoyo they shouldn't be suing anyone.
Nintendo is just patent trolling here and it's looking more likely they lose the suit and I wouldn't be suprised if they lose the patent as well.
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>>719325127
>they can't lawfare them to death like they do indie studios.
Mihoyo most probably have much more money than nintendo, and they surely would fight the validity of the patents nintendo got to fuck over palworld.
As far as I'm concerned, those patents should be illegal because there have been other games that used those things for years before nintendo got them, so that should null and void them since it's obvious nintendo is patent trolling to fuck over competition, and that's why they only got one approved in the US.
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>>719330161
either wrong quote or you read my post wrong.
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>>719324050
No, not really, but still: Japanese patent system is rotten

That said, I don't think Nintendo will sue hoyo
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>>719314481
>sue Hoyoverse into bankruptcy.
and then nothing of value will be lost
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>>719330232
>Why aren't you suing them?" is a valid argument though since by not suing they show that they do not care about the patent and just want to harras palword
It would only be valid if they copied the mechanic not the concept, Nintendo doesn't own that.
Not to mention, it would require Nintendo to register the patent in China anyway since unlike copyright patents aren't global.
>And let's not forget that Nintendo has changed the patent mid lawsuit
Which is also false. You can't change what a patent covers, all you can do is change the wording to make it clearer or more concise. It's also reviewed before and after the change to ensure what it covers hasn't changed.
>If they are not going to sue Mihoyo they shouldn't be suing anyone.
Except for the companies that steal in regions where they own the patent like pocketpair.
>Nintendo is just patent trolling
No.
Patent trolling is SPECIFICALLY when you file a vague patent, have no intention of realising the patent with an actual product and just sue everyone that comes close to your patent.
This isn't what Nintendo is doing. The patent is incredibly detailed being a fairly lengthy document going into it's exact function, they have a product that released several years before Palworld that uses that patent and they aren't blindly suing people.

No matter how much you hate Nintendo, none of this is going to change.
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>>719330236
>because there have been other games that used those things for years before nintendo got them
Then name one. I guarantee you don't even know what you're talking about and will just name any game with mounting.
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>>719314481
Here's the low down
>Nintendo sue Palworld because they got buttmad
>Palworld counters with claims that pretty much everything is novel
>Nintendo realizes their case is really fucking awful and scrambles to change the wording to make it broad
>It becomes so broad that Mihoyo violates it by pure accident

Basically the case is really shit and only exist because one party is upset a rando made a better game.
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>>719314481
>Sir, a second game with fuckable animals hit the market
>should we not call Nintendo already?
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>>719315865
Suing Bamco would be shooting themselves in the foot considering they produce a substantial amount of pokemon merchandise and even help with some of their games. It'd be really funny if they attempted this though.
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>>719330857
>this tl;dr faggot running nintendo damage control again because small indie company made a better game than then
Yawn
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They're using Palworld because Pal is in Japan, they can't try this anywhere else.
They did try to file a lawsuit in the US as well, but they got 24 out of 26 patents denied, but they're still trying.
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>>719331124
Allow me to do a summary without the bias
>Pocketpair takes mechanics from pokemon as is their design philosophy mentioned in the this interview https://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/interview/190906a
>all of these years they didn't know patents existed which is also mentioned in the interview
>Nintendo sues after fans attract their attention to the game
>Pocketpair attempts to use prior art as an argument but their examples are disregarded because they're attempting to argue concept and not function
>in a desperate attempt to recover they change their argument to the patent being unclear knowing Nintendo will change the wording of the patent just to get rid of that argument in order to buy time for them to make a case against Nintendo.
>Nintendo does just that
Mihoyo has nothing to do with this because they don't have a registered patent in China.
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>>719331685
How could someone live more than 30 years and not fucking know about patents?
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>>719330857
Except Mihoyo also publishes in Japan so your entire argument about regions goes out the window.
Nintendo has lost this time lad.
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>>719315473
the mount patent case was invalid anyway since in palworld you dont automatically switch mons, you have to manually get the mon out and hold a button to ride them, which is not what the patent does
case should have been thrown away day 1
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>>719332056
Not only is that irrelevant this
>It would only be valid if they copied the mechanic not the concept, Nintendo doesn't own that.
Is still the most important part.
This case isn't about the concept of mounting.

But hey, if pocketpair wants to embarrass themselves in court for a third time then they can bring them up.
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>>719332256
Pretty sure that's post patch making it irrelevant in an argument anyway.
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>Palworld
>New Digimon game
>New chink poke-clone gacha
>All of them look way better than every pokemon game past 3ds era
cool
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>>719331685
Bait used to be believable.
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>>719314481
Can't Japan only bully small fish in their home country. Meanwhile they're going against someone who actually makes decent amounts of money while being in a country that absolutely doesn't give a shit about patent laws in the first place so even if Nintendo had merit (they don't) they'd still get assfucked
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>>719332287
the only patent you could say was infringed was the throwing ball (sorry, "object") to catch a creature, but the mount one was invalid because the way it works in palworld is completely different from PLA, where the PLA patent is an automatic switch when you swap the selected mon/enter a body of water, while in palworld it is a 3 button process you have to do manually >>719332256
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>>719314810
Oh, did palworld kill pokemon?
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>>719332598
Why did you ignore my post >>719332387
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>>719332416
The sad part is that none of them actually look any better to play.
I guess the mihoyo one MIGHT get there in 10 years but I doubt it.
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>>719332694
the mounts werent changed though, they always worked like that and still do today
the gliding was a different case (and was mostly cosmetic anyway as the functionality is still in just with different model now)
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>>719315436
>pokemon invented animals ghosts and dragons
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you don't have to compete if you don't have competitors
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>>719314609
>>719314629
>>719314782
>>719314801
Kys snoy fag
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>>719331685
Allow me to summary your summary without the bias
>why yes, I'm running free internet defense for the biggest franchise in the world company who could just not make shittier, lazier, jankier games with each iteration in spite of that, when they actively and openly engage in patent bullshittery also in spite of that
>them having competition and maybe having to make better games which would also be good for me, the pokemon fan? i don't want that
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>>719332972
>says he's posting without bias
>removes the facts and only uses bias
I take it you're Indian given you don't know what these words mean.
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>>719332758
>and was mostly cosmetic anyway as the functionality is still in just with different model now)
Then that doesn't bode too well for them since the mechanic is what they're being sued for, not the model.
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>>719333468
the changes they are making are the ones mandated by the court, guess because pressing the glide button with a mon in your party that can do it counts as "automatically switching mon depending of occasion" or some shit
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>>719331685
You can't patent video game mechanics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Corp._v._CLS_Bank_International
>The patents were held to be invalid, because the claims were drawn to an abstract idea, and implementing those claims on a computer was not enough to transform that abstract idea into patentable subject matter.
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>>719333794
that's not how it works in japan
you can in japan and is exactly why this entire fiasco is happening
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>>719325127
>nintendo: we're suing you for copyright infringment!
>china: lolololol
>nintendo: well you can't sell your game in japan anymore then
>china: LOLOLOLOLOLOL
China literally doesn't give a fuck. That's why nobody sues Chinese companies.
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>>719327892
They're only able to do this in Japan to other Japanese companies. Every other part of the world would dismiss their case immediately.
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>>719323263
Because the human brain is the biggest sexual organ. In other words, your mind is fucking with you
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>>719333794
A video game mechanic isn't an abstract idea. I wish you people would actually read the things you post.
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Someone make a thread about this on vp.
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One think you Palkeks need to understand is that Nintendo owns a shit ton of patents but they let everyone use them as long as they don't mess with them directly. The Palworld situation was too in your face, they called shit Paldex and PalSpheres as a direct mock to their work.

What Hoyo is doing does actually infringe the patent but Nintendo won't sue them because the rest of the game is original enough (even if it's shitty) in a way that they don't bother Pokemon at all.
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>>719334750
Nintendo won't sue them because they can't.
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>>719314481
They just can't make original shit, can they...
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>>719334750
>but they let everyone use them
It's more that most developers don't just steal, they use their own ideas.
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>>719314481
Nintendo can mount on a spiked dildo and ride it to death
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>>719334927
They did mount pocketpair on it, that's right!
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>>719334979
Any day now, right?
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Tendies are mentally ill.
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>>719334927
You can go right after with this trash
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>>719335093
Yeah, that response doesn't work when they're actually being sued and pocketpair are panicking.
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>>719314481
Nintendo has a vendetta against Pocketpair, they don't care as much about anyone else right now, and Chinese companies are hilariously difficult to sue.
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>>719334750
You can Search about the COLOPL lawsuit that happened some years ago.
This company patented touch controls and then proceeded to sue every single game company that used touched controls for their games.
But Nintendo already had this patent, sued them instead and the whole thing was fixed, now everyone is free to use touch controls even though Nintendo owns the patent, as long as nobody tries to steal or mess with them directly, they will allow games and media to use their patents freely. If you look at how many patents Nintendo owns you'll be surprised.
That is how it's been for a long time and will continue to be, until another Palworld shit happens and tries to steal ideas from Nintendo. This is the only time when they will actively use the patents they own to fuck with others.
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>>719335271
It's Nintendo that's having to rewrite all their patents, retard.
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>>719332909
lmao salty
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>>719335721
Because pocketpair is panicking.
Because their arguments were shut down since they were arguing something completely different they claimed it wasn't clear so Nintendo decided to create a revision purely to make it clearer and not to change what it is
So basically it's
>Nintendo's patent doesn't make sense to us it should be thrown out because we don't like it
>Judge, allow us to change the wording of the patent for our opponents.
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>>719314481
>thinking Nintendo will get anything from a Chinese team

They wont even try.
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>>719314971
Nice meme
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>>719319019
#5 is just PomPomPurin isn't it?
A creme brulee dog is a very specific thing to come up with
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>>719336676
How much is Nintendo paying you to deepthroat their dick because I'll pay you double to slobber on mine, faggot.
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>>719337048
Not as much as pocketpair is paying you clearly.
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>>719336676
Holy shit, you're actually deranged.
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>>719336676
None of the arguments were shut down. The trials still ongoing
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>>719338105
No shit, the trial is still going. It's almost as if pocketpair is dragging it out because they don't want to be sued.
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>>719338221
They are already sued that's why they're having a trial. Nintendo's having trouble finding anything to stick which is why they're changing their patent to be more vague. Nintendo is the one dragging this out.
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>>719325127
Japan is a dead market retard, or did you miss where nintendo is trying to target literal babies with my mario line of products because their dwindling consumer base?
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nintendo only care merhcndise sales and shit, they sued palword the moment palworld created a company with aniplex similar to TPC
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>>719314481
nintendo did not invent monster capture games
pretty sure it was atlus
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>>719338467
>They are already sued that's why they're having a trial.
That's not how that works, this is a lawsuit to determine if Pocketpair is in the wrong and can be sued.
Pocketpair is also having difficulty arguing their case which is why they're delaying it by claiming the patent was poorly written. Do you really think that Nintendo is changing the wording for absolutely no reason? No.
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>>719338467
I hate how you people think that it's the plaintiff who delays everything just because of that retarded Sony emulator case that had nothing to do with dragging it out anyway.
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>>719340204
it makes no sense for palworld to delay the suit, they would lose more money over time than nintendo
also nintendo is rewriting the patents to be even vaguer which make people think is very strange because usually you'd do the opposite, making parents more broad is the opposite of what the patent system exists for
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>>719317024
>hat themselves when they saw Yokai Watch's success?
Over what? Their best selling game with a five month headstart barely outsold "the worst remake ever"(2015)
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>>719340204
>can be sued
You are wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Nintendo is currently suing for an injunction against Pocketpair, which can, in the best case be to force them to remove the features and in the worst case to force them to stop selling the game and pay Nintendo reparations.
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Pokemon fans don't like the designs because they prefer children>>719340773
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>>719336865
lol show how many of those are frigates vs aircraft carriers and submarines
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>>719314481
>changing a patent in the middle of a lawsuit
Deserving of Nintendo being kicked out by the Judge
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If they don't sue Hoyo they'll be giving Pocketpair an argument against them in their lawsuit.
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>>719332909
Kirby won. You lost.
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>>719342662
you are so pathetic
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this is why japan lost
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>>719314481
Nintendo's power level is vastly higher than Hoyoverse, right? Even with the power of Genshin, they pale in comparison to all the IPs Nintendo has, nevermind the association with Pokemon.
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>>719314481
it's amazing to me how people who have no idea about the law or anything really can speak so confidently about it
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>>719344530
I dunno if they are more powerful than a company worth 18 trillion dollars
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>>719340514
>it makes no sense for palworld to delay the suit, they would lose more money over time than nintendo
Fun fact, court fees don't increase over time as the litigation goes on.
That means there's a benefit for the defendant on the backfoot since they can delay with no additional cost while buying more time to sort out their argument and find an in.
Basically delaying is a desperation move and it's the same thing Colopl did when Nintendo had them cornered.

>also nintendo is rewriting the patents to be even vaguer
Which they didn't. In fact the patent is almost exactly the same with about two changed words that ultimately don't change the function of the patent. Which of course they couldn't do in the first place. In other words they're flaunting the fact that Pocketpair has no argument by showing that they don't have to make a sweeping change and if they claim it's vague over and over even the judge will see what they're doing.
>making parents more broad is the opposite of what the patent system exists for
Well then, it's a good thing that never happened and the patent is practically the same.
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The palworld lawsuit wouldn't fly outside of japan, let alone in fucking china lmao
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>>719344734
>equating china's entire gdp to hoyoverse alone
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palkek coping, nintendo is not going to sue this game, i see pocketfair ceo suing this instead, this game will be more a palworrld killer, its going to be pc
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>>719344896
yes anon that's how china work
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I have tendie fatigue
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>>719340773
>You are wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about
>proceeds to make shit up about the injunction.
You Palfags are the gift that keeps on giving.
They already have an injunction on them, that's why they had to patch out the stolen mechanics. It's called an interim injunction and stays in effect until the verdict is given.
>and in the worst case to force them to stop selling the game and pay Nintendo reparations.
They only have an injunction on the mechanics, this literally isn't a possibility unless the judge is an astronomical dick and just decides to award that to them if pocketpair pisses them off with their nonsense.
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>>719345042
well then maybe you should stop making nintendo seethe threads
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>>719345042
Imagine being tired of something that doesn't exist.
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>>719319652
I'm sure that the Hoyo fanbase will bitch and whine enough that this will be changed
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>>719314542
LOL Unless these motherfuckers are selling exclusively in China, their ass is grass no matter how much the CCP cries. Good bye business anywhere else Nintendo already has a foot hold on. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>719319019
ah yes typical mihomo ai-generated blenderslop that gachatards will lap up because it's the hot new thing in town.
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>>719314581
It should be. But Mihoyo also deserves to be BTFO'd
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>>719345357
nigga there's one in this fucking thread that's been throwing a bitchfit for the last 4 hours over a court case he doesn't have even a basic understanding of. Nintendo is not your friend. Stop blindly defending them.
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>>719350153
You mean the guy who didn't know that pocketpair was under an injunction already?
I wouldn't call him a tendie given he was trying his best to shit on them but yeah he knew fuck all.

In all seriousness, just because you're butthurt about the facts doesn't mean they're your mortal enemy.
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>>719350342
Stop samefagging.
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>>719345286
>>719350342
That's not how injunctions work. The defendant doesn't have to change anything until the claim against them is proven valid.
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>>719314481
They won't, Nintendo is a patent troll who exclusively targets small scale companies for them to want to clear the problem out of court, Mihoyo is too big now.
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>>719325127
>they can't lawfare them to death like they do indie studios.
they probably can
hoyo is already imploding due to the gacha bubble pop (that they themselves caused) to the point of already cutting costs and dropping support for the PS4 port of genshit
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Palworld lost. Get over it.
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>>719351219
yeah anon I am sure mihoyo is dying
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>>719319019
Shart rail was already bad with the "characters feel AI designed" but this is somehow even worse.
Legitimately impressive.
>Half of the characters are for fujos to try make the john lee thunder in a bottle happen again.
LMFAO.
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rape of nanking gonna look like daycare, ifit actually happened.
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>>719351339
>Combined.
>x10 estimate multiplier with a x0.25 nerf on jp games.
>This is after they started adding the console servers to the "combined" numbers because pokemon beat the nasu collab numbers.
FYI the gacha revenue report is late again, by over 8 days this time, gonna guess chinkslop got irreparably raped by pokemon and uma musume and the gachagaming trannies can't cope.
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>>719350503
>one post
>samefagging
Nigga what. Or are you trying to say that I'm samefagging because you replied to me and I didn't say I was the same person?

What is samefagging is your post and this one>>719350620 because I insulted you personally, but this is the part where you an edit and pretend.
Anywho
>The defendant doesn't have to change anything until the claim against them is proven valid.
That anon even told you what kind of injunction it was, an interim injunction, a type of injunction that has to be followed BEFORE the verdict.
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>>719351457
sensory tower only update on the first day of each month you retarded bald schizo
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>>719351339
roblox makes all that combined x2...
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>>719351602
lolno the cutoff used to be on the 21st
and literally just for the sole purpose of bundling together the revenue of multiple hoyo banners on the same month because the change of banners usually happened around the 14-16th and 28-29th of each month
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>>719351698
and roblox collapsed and lost billions overnight due to being a pedophile paradise despite already having draconian ID shit in place, so what's the point in bringing them up?
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>>719319019
They all look generic as fuck. bottom of the barrel slop
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How did Palworld mindbreak Pokefags so hard?
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>>719351867
That still makes more money, all that combined x2...
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>>719315043
Oh God I wish
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>>719322186
>It has nothing to do with how much money it makes or shit like that, it's just because they stole a patented version of the mechanic.
it was patented AFTER Palworld was already released lol
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>>719351795
it was always the first day of the month you absolute retard
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>>719324050
i wonder how people get such a big stockholm syndrome to cope this hard and protect nintendo to explain they didn't edit the patent but just rewrited it since ofcourse they can't change what inside the patent (whatever this fucking mean)
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>>719333402
I was making fun of your totally "unbiased" bullshit, you absolute moron.
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>>719352094
Well, it's because pokemon fans didn't really care about Palworld so the pokefags attached to it spammed it everywhere hoping senpai would notice.
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>>719352532
Nigga, we're you really that butthurt about him making fun of you that you had to reply five hours later?
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>>719352094

Tourists latched onto it.
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>>719351457
The site people like to post was always on the first day of the month, you can even look at the tranny reddit posts to confirm it
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>>719352094
I wanna pet the giant lamball!
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>>719352512
>whatever this fucking mean
To make it as easy to explain for your inbred mind, let's take the statement
>the red car went down the road
If you change it to
>the crimson car sped down the avenue
It conveys the exact same meaning but in more detail, you now know the exact shade of red, that it was going fast and that the road was specifically an avenue, but it still means a red car went down the fucking road.

That's what they're doing, they haven't changed the patent.
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>>719352681
>lol, u mad? It only took you five hours to reply. unlike me who is so indifferent to this discussion I must reply immediately
>proceeds to do the same five hours later
What a sad life, I feel sorry for your parents.
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>>719353352
You do know that staying in a thread for five hours is worse than someone new making fun of someone replying after five hours, right.
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>>719336865
Lmao. Bugs have no shame.
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>>719331685
>>all of these years they didn't know patents existed which is also mentioned in the interview

Nintendo filed the patent after they found out about Palworld.
>>Pocketpair attempts to use prior art as an argument
That is a defense under patent law. You can't fucking patent something that has already been done. This was the issue with the ball shit too since even fuck WoW had a mode where you could throw a ball and capture a creature. Genshin showed off the exact same mechanic a week or so before Nintendo even filed the patent.
>>in a desperate attempt to recover they change their argument to the patent
Nintendo was the one that changed the patent language idiot
>Mihoyo has nothing to do with this because they don't have a registered patent in China.
Nintendo would sue in Japan idiot. They wont because, beyond likely losing this case, Mihoyo has enough capital to completely fuck Nintendo.
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>>719354148
>staying in a thread
>what are tabs?
>what is stepping away from your screen?
You probably read my post the second it went through but still waited ten minutes to not prove my point. As I said, what a sad piece of flesh you are.
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>our gachas are dying because we keep releasing them and cannibalizing ourselves
>let's release another!
how is Mihoyo this stupid?
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>>719355027
>Nintendo filed the patent after they found out about Palworld.
?
Both the Japanese and American ones were filed before Palworld in 2022 and 2022 respectively.
How did the idea that they filed it after even come about? They wouldn't have been able to file for it especially in Japan where patent regulations are way more strict.
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>>719355027
>This was the issue with the ball shit too since even fuck WoW had a mode where you could throw a ball and capture a creature.
You people are fucking idiots, that's not how patents work at all, it doesn't give you control of a fucking concept just how you've executed the concept.
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>>719355346
same way all the other lies about nintendo have come out. youtube grifters and urinalists.
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BUH-BUH-BUH-BUH-BUH-BUH-BUH-BUH-BASED
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>>719355346
>in japan where patent regulations are way more strict
japan is such a shit hole
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>>719355484
Don't forget that you're talking to people who defend pocketpair because they fell in love with a blue ferret.
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>>719314481
Nintendo won't do jackshit against China.

They will say "Thank you, can I take more please?" with a smile.
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>>719355597
Imagine knowing what this word salad is
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>>719355484
Tendies need to stop lying to people about this. Yes, it has to be fucking NOVEL to be patented.
>https://www.findlaw.com/smallbusiness/intellectual-property/idea-must-be-useful-novel-or-non-obvious.html
>"Novelty" is strictly defined by patent law. It refers to the originality of the idea. An invention cannot get a patent if:
>The invention was in public use or on sale in the United States more than one year before the inventor’s U.S. patent application

This is why Pocket Pair argued that the mechanics Nintendo were suing over were used in multiple games in the first place retard
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>>719355836
tendies are deck trannies. Normal people bought the switch.
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>>719355836
then why did they push out patches to change them? seems to me thay didn't have much confidence in their claims.
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>>719355836
>Tendies need to stop lying to people about this. Yes, it has to be fucking NOVEL to be patented.
One
>American patent law
This is a country where you can apply for a year grace period to file for a patent before you have the thing you want to patent ready so you can sue before the product is even ready.
Second, you're not even reading it right you mongoloid, if something has the same function but a different method of design that counts as a new invention. If it worked the way you thought it did there wouldn't be a patent for a combustion engine because the fucking steam engine existed. They're both engines you know.
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>>719355836
I don't understand what you retards get from lying about an ongoing lawsuit
it ain't gonna change the outcome
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>>719355836
>>"Novelty" is strictly defined by patent law. It refers to the originality of the idea. An invention cannot get a patent if:
If you had actually read your own link you would have seen this.
>Utility patent: This patent grants a property right to new and useful composition of matter, machines, and processes. It is the most common type of patent.
A game mechanic is a process meaning you can execute the same concept with a different method and it's still novel.
This is also confirmed by this which you conveniently left out.
>These rules don’t prevent a person from patenting an improvement to another invention. For example, tire makers have long known the formulas for making tire rubber. But what if an inventor found a way to make tire rubber twice as long-lasting by slightly changing the chemical composition? This could be a patentable improvement as long as the difference wasn’t obvious.
This is why you Palfags are a laughing stock.
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>>719356279
They're probably paid shills. It's not like that money is going into making palworld a better game.
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>>719355836
>>719356349
Dear anons. Both sides are retarded.

- sincerely, another anon
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>>719355836
>"Novelty" is strictly defined by patent law. It refers to the originality of the idea. An invention cannot get a patent if:
>Others in the United States knew or used the invention before the patent applicant invented it
>Any printed publication described the invention, or there was a patent before the patent applicant invented it
>A printed publication in any country described the invention, or the invention had a patent more than one year before the inventor’s U.S. patent application
>The invention was in public use or on sale in the United States more than one year before the inventor’s U.S. patent application

>These rules don’t prevent a person from patenting an improvement to another invention. For example, tire makers have long known the formulas for making tire rubber. But what if an inventor found a way to make tire rubber twice as long-lasting by slightly changing the chemical composition? This could be a patentable improvement as long as the difference wasn’t obvious.
I love when anons btfo themselves. I'm just waiting for the deleted post now
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>>719314481
Nintendo's claim is that they own the concept of "Mounts that can travel on land and also fly"
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>>719318443
B-but I had a labrador decades before that game even existed...
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>Nintendo is in the process of losing their lawsuit with the developer of the game Palworld after attempting to amend their patent mid-case, which was seen as a "desperate attempt to win" by creating "extremely contorted" amended claims.
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>>719356982
Is that what the article actually says?
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>>719314629
>>719314801
>>719324050
*taps the sign*
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>>719356982
>source: the paint demons told me
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>>719332689
Out of embarassament? Totally.
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>>719314581
>Palsnoys and chinks crying
Maybe create original mechanics instead of stealing?
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>>719357131
it's ok when anyone does it, patents aren't a new thing
samefag
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>>719315065
>No.
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>>719352094
better gameplay
better designs
the soul that comes with some small guys making it big
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>>719357413
What the fuck is going on in India where their GDP is smaller than Bongistan despite their population being the second largest on Earth?
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>>719357364
>Zero text interpretation.
Only Nintendo doesn't get criticized for patenting game mechanics.
When Bamco did the same with loading screen minigames, or Warner Games did the same with the Nemesis System, just to name a few, you didn't hear the end of it.
But when it comes to Nintendo, it's fine; they're just "protecting their intellectual property".
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>>719357554
Cow shit is worth nothing outside india
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>>719357610
>they're just "protecting their intellectual property".
And whats wrong with that?
Patenting Game Mechanics it's totally legal, as such, there's nothing wrong with that.
>But muh morals
Moralfags deserve the rope.
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>>719357610
>"protecting their intellectual property".
Yes, and?
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>>719357743
>And whats wrong with that?
Nebulous concepts aren´t intellectual property in any place outside japan.
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>>719357554
Poos have the smallest brains in the world. Also, rape and cowshit are not desirable exports. Literally the only thing poodia has to offer the world is cheap foreign labor, which robots will make completely obsolete in the next 50-100 years.
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>>719357610
you bring up literally the same damn shit every damn time, like a broken record, like the goddamn rainman having a sperg-out
no one gave a fuck about the patent, people just made their own version of a nemesis system... like palworld should've done
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>>719314481
>Nefarious Nintendo says they have ""a"" theme park.
That's what journalists sound like. Kys.
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>>719356089
Its a good faith action. Its trying to show the courts that the game can work without the mechanic that potentially infringes on it. Its better not to be a cunt to the court

>>719356349
>>719356828
I like how you dumb dumbs are trying to find any gotcha for what is a very simple concept: you can't patent something that was already invented. Here is the patent attorney who followed the case
>Invalidity contentions can be based on one piece of prior art if something is pretty much a copy of pre-existing material. What one sees more often, however, is that someone defending against a patent points to a combination of two or more pieces of prior art. If someone working in the field could simply have combined those two or more elements (and would have been reasonably likely to come up with the idea of combining them), then the combination is not really an invention. In the U.S., the requirement that a combination must meet a certain standard is called the nonobviousness requirement, and the Japanese term is similar to the European concept that if you combine pre-existing things, there must be an inventive step involved that leads to the combination.
>https://gamesfray.com/pocketpairs-defenses-against-nintendos-patent-lawsuit-unpacked-ark-craftopia-zelda-ff14-etc-may-render-asserted-patents-invalid/
Basically, its common in patent defenses to argue this and you all are fucking retarded.
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>>719357820

FOUND THE SPIC
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>>719315134
You really think the CCP can afford the face loss from letting one of their cultural flagships get buckbroken by a fucking Japanese company with help from Trump? This literally preesses all their biggest buttons
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>>719357610
>When Bamco did the same with loading screen minigames, or Warner Games did the same with the Nemesis System
Congrats, you have named the only two instances people have ever mentioned mainly because with minigames there's no way to actually do that differently. The Nemesis system is just a completely irrational thing.
Meanwhile o one ever mentions how the dialogue wheel is patented by EA
Or ATB by Square and the Sphere Grid
Apex patented their ping system
Sega patented the Emerald Hill corkscrews
I think the War Thunder devs patented their control scheme for planes?
ubisoft patented the rocksmith real guitar thing
MS patented achievements
Katamari's rolling and growing mechanics are patented I think Bamco also patented Pacman VS' design or something like that.

Anyway, point is no one cares because patents are usually so ridiculously precise that you can't really intentionally infringe. You have to do it on purpose.
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>>719358173
>Its a good faith action
It's not good faith, Nintendo have an injunction on them you moron.
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>>719358173
Post more to shut of the tendies that want to claim prior art can't invalidate patents
>In a nutshell, prior art can be used to invalidate the claims in an issued patent by showing that the claimed invention is not “new” or “non-obvious.”
>https://henry.law/blog/prior-art-invalidate-issued-patent/

This is what Pocket Paid is doing
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>>719358508
There is no injunction stupid. That is what the case is trying to do retard.
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>>719358173
>its common in patent defenses to argue this and you all are fucking retarded.
>If someone working in the field could simply have combined those two or more elements (and would have been reasonably likely to come up with the idea of combining them), then the combination is not really an invention
God, I want to know the idiot that they got that from because it's completely wrong.
They're even trying to argue using the US' considerably weaker patent laws.
The best part is that this
>and the Japanese term is similar to the European concept that if you combine pre-existing things, there must be an inventive step involved that leads to the combination.
This even contradicts their entire statement and yours.
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>Anyway, point is no one cares because patents are usually so ridiculously precise that you can't really intentionally infringe. You have to do it on purpose.
Yeah, Because "riding an animal" is not "vague" and "irrational" at all, right?
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>>719358790
>There is no injunction stupid
So what, you're going to argue against pocketpair? They're the ones made that public knowledge.
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>>719319019
Aliens
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>>719356089
to show to nintendo tranny they couldn't care less about their supposedly patent being in their game so maybe they will just fuck off
spoiler they won't because it's just about sending a message to other dev, basically terrorist
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>>719319019
I thought China wasnt allowed to do effeminate males
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>>719358442
>MS patented achievements
So Basedny and steam pays M$ in order to use them (I don´t know if nintendo consoles also have them)?
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>>719359205
you never have seen a genshin impact character before?
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>>719359205
i have never seen and masculine male from China
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>>719359205
Look at Venti…
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>>719359181
retype that without crying my ESL friend
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>>719359341
venti is a special case of being a genderbent expy
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>>719359380
why would i care about your AI not being able to translate it for you ?
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>>719359271
(Don´t know the entire rooster but)In genshin they are not fags, just "ikemen".
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>>719358883
It would be.
If that was what was patented.

But it isn't
>The computer of the information processing device
>A player character is controlled based on an operational input within the virtual space;
when one of a plurality of types of rideable characters that the player character can ride is selected from among the characters owned by the player character and a riding instruction is given, the player character is made to ride the selected rideable character and made movable;
when a first operation input is performed while the player character is in the air, the player character is caused to ride on an airborne rideable character among the rideable characters , which is capable of moving in the air, to be in a state where the player character is capable of moving in the air;
>A game program for moving the player character riding on the aerial riding character in the air based on an operation input while the player character is riding on the aerial riding character . 2 . The game program according to claim 1 , wherein the boarding characters further include a ground-use boarding character capable of moving on land, and a water-use boarding character capable of moving on or underwater. The computer further comprises:
There's like 12 points to this and it'll hit the character limit but tldr it's not the concept of mounting.
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>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I CAN'T MAKE A GAME WITHOUT INFRINGING A PATENT! I HAVE TO COPY OTHER PEOPLE'S IDEAS!!!!"
Just be more creative. You don't have to copy Nintendo or Warner Brothers' ideas. Just create new ones yourself, that's what the industry is for. Plagianism is bad.
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fartendo always was for the designs but how they cant patent it, go for the gameplay instead
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imagine if Blizzard patented RTS
imagine if Rare patented first person shooters
imagine if Nintendo patented platformers
patenting game mechanics is retarded simple as
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he's breaking down
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>>719359691
Is it illegal?
>No
Then who cares?
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>>719359550
>Plagianism is bad.
Explain this corposucker
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>>719314481
it's an RTS, dude. They have nothing like with Digimon
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>>719359791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5B1mIfQuo4
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>>719359691
>magine if Blizzard patented RTS
Dune was made even before the first warcraft
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>>719359791
The same as that "Atlantis" movie, wich was a blatant copy of Nadia.
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>>719359912
and gonden eye wasn't the first FPS, that's the whole point, some patents nintendo has people did before them but doesn't matter apparently
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>>719359869
>Just be more creative
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>>719359791
>IS THAT... A LION!? WITH A CUB!?
>AND THE LION IS THE KING!?
>that NEVER happened before! It must be a copy.
Really?
>>719359869
Long as fuck, but good video.
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>>719360186
>Just be more creative
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>>719355490
It's also because pocketpair themselves put that it was filed and approved in 2024, which is obviously wrong.
https://www.pocketpair.jp/news/20241108
Just looking up the individual patents show you as such
>Patent No. 7545191
https://patents.google.com/patent/JP7545191B1/en
Even if you're blind and don't see that "2021 JP" as soon as you open the page if you just scroll down to the bottom you find pic related

Same with all of them by the way
https://patents.google.com/patent/JP7493117B2/en
https://patents.google.com/patent/JP7528390B2/en

Basically, Pocketpair are so inept that they read it wrong, published the wrong dates and just left it like that.
And their fanbase are so brand loyal that they just took it as the truth
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>>719355346
>>719360436
do any of you ever wonder why Nintendo would wake up one day in 2021 and just remember they had patent to fill for Palworld game mechanic ?
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>>719360618
Are you trying to say that Nintendo saw palworld releasing in 2024, used their time machine, convinced GF to make PLA and patented the mechanics in 2021 just to sue?

I'm pretty sure it's more likely that a company known for steal stole.
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>>719314481
I can't wait for blizzard to sue nintendo.
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>>719360739
Stealing*
Excuse me, I'm phone posting. I swear, ever since these companies started using AI I've been making more typos.
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>>719317145
Every game they make beats gacha slop by default
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>>719360769
>blizzard tries to sue Nintendo
>case is immediately thrown out because the mechanic isn't the same
>Nintendo countersues for harrassment
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>>719360739
>used their time machine,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqTJFhbo9zY
Damn Gematsu are wasting their time machine to leak game when they could be just winning lottery everyday
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>>719359469
Many words for what's basically riding a mount that you own that can also fly/swim
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>>719360885
How is the mount mechanic not the same?
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>>719360957
Having a mechanic related to mounting doesn't mean it's the same mechanic.
It's pretty simple.
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>>719361030
That's not an answer. How is mount an animal to use as a ride not the same as mounting an animal to use as a ride?
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>>719361030
stop talking like a jew and answer this anon question.
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>>719361056
>How is mount an animal to use as a ride not the same as mounting an animal to use as a ride?
I just told you. A concept isn't a mechanic.
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>>719332689
Palworld created a model others can copy. Azur Promilia and Nexus Anima are the start
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>>719361056
NTA but part of the patent is contextual and instant switching aka if you character jumps off of a cliff a prompt appears and you can switch.
If another game had a mechanic where it would automatically switch you without your input then it a different mechanic.

That's how patents work.
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The patent ist that complex
>one of a plurality of types of rideable characters that the player character can ride is selected from among the characters owned by the player character
Select a mount out of many mounts that you own. MMOs have this.
>when a first operation input is performed while the player character is in the air, the player character is caused to ride on an airborne rideable character
Press a button to mount a flying mount midair. MMOs have this.
>A game program for moving the player character riding on the aerial riding character in the air based on an operation input while the player character is riding on the aerial riding character
You can move your mounted mount with input.
>The game program according to claim 1 , wherein the boarding characters further include a ground-use boarding character capable of moving on land, and a water-use boarding character capable of moving on or underwater
Ground and water mounts.
>The game program according to claim 1, further comprising a step of causing a predetermined damage to be inflicted on the player character when the player character falls to the ground from a height exceeding a predetermined standard or from the air at a speed exceeding a predetermined standard
Fall damage
>The game system according to claim 5, wherein the player character is caused to capture another character, and the captured character becomes the owned character
This is the only point you could argue is unique but even then you could consider doing a quest to defeat a boss to get it as mount "capturing" said mount.

This patent is just many words for simple concepts.
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I wish I lived on the timeline medarots became popular instead of pokemon
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>>719361108
>stating a fact is jewish
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I'm always reminded of EA's stupid patent on dialogue wheels and interfaces.
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>tendies when someone makes a game that violates their patents
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Why didn't kojima patent the camera?
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>>719316156
I'm so sick of clickbait videos. Nothing ever happens, including an end to these annoying, dragged out lawsuits.
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>>719314481
video game patents have been bullshit from the beginning, there's effectively nothing you could reasonably patent at all using any meaningful measure. The only thing you could go after was copyright infringement, which is notably hard anyway. Something like the dpad patent was more valid than an arrow showing you where to go or catching monsters or riding monsters.
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copywrite laws and patents are probably the most jewish concepts in existence even more so than usury and blood libel.
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>8 hours later and the tendie is still seething
kek
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>>719361770
You want to know the fun part? No game before PLA actually have the first two.
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>>719361859
i wish they would patent the souless UI and all minimalism icon while they are at it
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>>719362194
palkeks are the only setthing because nintendo is not going to touch digimon and this game
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>>719362234
Guild Wars 2 Path of Fire 2017
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>>719362425
>>719362234
Also it has every single one of those points together.
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>>719362425
Nope, completely different mounting mechanics.
Also fun fact, there's no fall damage in that game when mounted.

Don't assume you can just name random games with mounts and not explain yourself like other people haven't played the game you've mentioned.
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>>719362382
You've spend the entire day screeching about palword to nobody but yeah, they're totally mad at you bro. Way2pwn them d00d. epic
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>>719359791
>>719360182
>>719360243
>>719360934
Nintendog instant concession accepted
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>>719362702
>completely different
Doesn't matter. It matches the wording of the patent.
>there's no fall damage in that game when mounted.
Wrong. There is fall damage when mounted, just not for aerial mounts because they also glide.
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>>719362194
Tendies will paypig jeets to shit up the board. They love demonstrating their loyalty.
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>>719362779
>Way2pwn them d00d.
learntype better ameritard subhuman
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>>719314581
Hear hear!

I hate this shit like you wouldn't believe. It should NOT be allowed, it needs to be removed. It is so stupid really. We need a new movement "Stop game mechanics patenting".
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>>719362425
Nigga, you can use them for combat. That massively sets them apart.
>>719362682
And what the fuck are you talking about? I haven't played the game in years and I can tell you that they didn't have fall damage, basically because that would fuck up the springer and make it worthless, or a swimming mount, the closest to that is the siege turtle and that's walking underwater.
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Last time a country fucked with a CCP company, the CCP started arresting tourists from that country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition_case_of_Meng_Wanzhou

It ended with the USA itself cucking out and telling Canada to let her go.
>On September 24, 2021, the Department of Justice announced it had reached a deal with Meng to resolve the case through a deferred prosecution agreement. As part of the deal, Meng agreed to a statement of facts that said she had made untrue statements to HSBC to enable transactions in the United States, at least some of which supported Huawei's work in Iran in violation of U.S. sanctions, but did not have to pay a fine nor plead guilty to her key charges.[23][24][25] The Department of Justice said it would move to dismiss all charges against Meng when the deferral period ends on 21 December 2022, on the condition that Meng is not charged with a crime before then.[26] Meng was released from house arrest and left Canada for China on September 24, 2021; hours after news of the deal, Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig, two Canadian citizens whose arrest in mainland China were widely seen as retaliation for Meng's arrest in Canada, were released from detention in China and flown back to Canada.[27] On December 2, 2022, the presiding judge dismissed the charges against Meng following the United States government's request.

If China could make the USA back down over something as big as Huawei, imagine what they could do to a US Vassal State.
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>>719315043
>Pokemon will die in our lifetime and thats a good thing
Nooo, I haven't catched them all yet!
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>>719363139
They normal ground mounts always had fall damage. The Springer just always had reduced fall damage and the flying ones don't.
If you walk off a cliff with a raptor it would die and you would dismount. If it was high enough it would be an instakill.
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>>719357554
>What the fuck is going on in India where their GDP is smaller than Bongistan despite their population being the second largest on Earth?
"Why the fuck don't flies rule the world despite outnumbering man?"
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>>719315967
The big deal is that Sony tried to pursuit a multimedia franchise throught the indie game that no one cared about and when their money was in the horizon of being injected into palworld to create their own gamefreak like situation (Nintendo doesn't own game freak and they just co-own a third of pokemon) that's when Nintendo decided to sue and not because of visuals but using patents. It is their beef with Sony, not palworld being a pokemon clone.
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>>719357554
india is africa if it was all one country
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>>719363308
>it would die and you would dismount
You absolute illiterate fucking moron
>>>719361770
>causing a predetermined damage to be inflicted ON THE PLAYER CHARACTER when the player character falls to the ground from a height exceeding a predetermined standard or from the air at a speed exceeding a predetermined standard
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>>719317024
they were studying what made Yokai Watch appeal to the children audience, which it actually did. The changes made in Gen 7 all reflect their study over Yokai Watch. YW would then go and die because Level-5 were massive retards with every choice they made. Switch Pokemon games didn't need to be good simply because YW4 never did the numbers both GF and L5 needed/expected.
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>>719363387
Anon, if they cared they would have gone after Sony years ago.
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>>719363139
Also the skimmer is a swimming mount since 2017 and has been able to go underwater since 2020.
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Yep, and Palworld is going offline TOMORROW!
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>>719363506
Continue reading.
>If it was high enough it would be an instakill.
As in, an instakill for you, the player.
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>>719363657
The skimmer is a (barely) flying mount and going under water isn't the same as being on it.
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>>719363715
In other words, there's no fucking fall damage.
There's damage to the mount and a state that disregards damage and kills you.

How do you not understand how patents work?
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>>719363612
they aren't going after Sony themselves but their idea of trying to go big with the monster capture approach through an indie company. This lawsuit is just to put some dirt into the palworld franchise name because brand loyalty is a way worse thing in japan than you might expect, the outcome doesn't matter.
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>>719327892
>troonubes
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>>719363932
Anyway, Palworld is FOTM, totally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, so it's best to set it as an example so as not to plagiarize Nintendo's ideas for other companies to look at.
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>>719363828
Alright I watched a video and it dismounts you without killing you, I misremembered that.
But if you go to the patent nowhere does it state that the player has to take falling damage while mounted to another character. The wording explicitly only states that the player takes falling damage when falling too far or too fast.
>The game program according to claim 1, further comprising a step of causing a predetermined damage to be inflicted on the player character when the player character falls to the ground from a height exceeding a predetermined standard or from the air at a speed exceeding a predetermined standard
No mounts mentioned.
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>>719363745
>The game program according to claim 1 , wherein the boarding characters further include a ground-use boarding character capable of moving on land, and a water-use boarding character capable of moving on or underwater
It moves on or under water, therefore it matches. The wording is exact here. It doesn't say swimming inside water.
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>>719364156
don't try to make a pokemon clone if you live in japan and plan to not be part of the nintendo environment, basically.
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>>719314481
Is this a chink cope thread?
>Game looks trash slop
>bbbbbb b b but nintendo bad!!!!!
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>>719364192
>No mounts mentioned.
Except it mentions it right fucking here you dumbass
>>The game program according to claim 1,
Do you know what claim 1 is?
>when one of a plurality of types of rideable characters that the player character can ride is selected from among the characters owned by the player character and a riding instruction is given, the player character is made to ride the selected rideable character and made movable; when a first operation input is performed while the player character is in the air, the player character is caused to ride on an airborne rideable character among the rideable characters , which is capable of moving in the air, to be in a state where the player character is capable of moving in the air; A game program for moving the player character riding on the aerial riding character in the air based on an operation input while the player character is riding on the aerial riding character .
Aka while mounted.
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>>719314481
I know no one actually cares but it isn't even that similar to Pokemon, it's autochess and each character has his own notPokemon you don't actually catch them.
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>>719364408
>don't try to make a pokemon clone
This is by far the craziest thing to me about this Palworld/Pokemon shit. The games are literally nothing alike. They are drastically different games with the only connection between them being the ability to capture monsters. This would be like if Activision tried to sue Firaxis because Civilization has modern day soldiers in it and that's totally copying Call of Duty.
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>>719364192
Another quote from the patent
>According to the above, if the player character falls to the ground, a predetermined amount of damage is inflicted. When the player character is in the air, the player character can be made to immediately board the airborne boarding object by performing the first operation input. This makes it possible to prevent the player character from falling and being damaged.
The flying mount saves you from fall damage, by mounting while you are falling.
Fall damage while mounted is not mentioned.
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>>719364889
>it's not like Pokemon
>it just has not Pokemon in it
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>>719364894
>According to the above, if the player character falls to the ground, a predetermined amount of damage is inflicted. When the player character is in the air, the player character can be made to immediately board the airborne boarding object by performing the first operation input. This makes it possible to prevent the player character from falling and being damaged.
Time to sue Bungie because that shit has been in Destiny since 2011. I can't believe they would steal Nintendo's ideas like that.
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>>719314581
Should be 10 years only and after that should be free to everyone. With how rapidly Innovation has been moving it's pointless to have people keep patents for 15-20 years. We do not live in an Analog world anymore.
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>>719364989
Pokemon doesn't have a monopoly on cute monster creatures as tragic as it is for Pokecucks
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>>719364743
>The game program according to claim 1
Read that one again.
>The game program
The beginning of claim 1 is
>The computer of the information processing device
A player character is controlled based on an operational input within the virtual space;
It means the computer program that performs the function of the player character mounting also performs the function of giving the player fall damage.
Every single claim redirects to claim 1 because its about the game doing all these things.
And see >>719364894
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>>719365156
The complete section is this. It explicitly explains the combination of the two claims.
>The game program may further cause the computer to inflict a predetermined amount of damage on the player character if the player character falls to the ground from the air at a height exceeding a predetermined standard or at a speed exceeding a predetermined standard.
>According to the above, if the player character falls to the ground, a predetermined amount of damage is inflicted. When the player character is in the air, the player character can be made to immediately board the airborne boarding object by performing the first operation input. This makes it possible to prevent the player character from falling and being damaged.
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>>719364892
which is why the whole lawsuit is a big curveball. They don't say that palworld is copying their whole structure. They even ignored the multiple demands from people all over the world that points out how lazy and copied the palworld designs are here and there from pokemon. This same company cloned from Breath of the Wild iirc. They are acting only on the prospect of an indie company launching a big multimedia franchise that involves catching monsters out of their own sphere of influence, that's all.
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>>719363201
Ah, but you see, we had an escapee from the old folks home at the helm then. China tried their fucking around with Trump 2.0 and got their shit rocked by tariffs. They aren't picking any more big ticket fights during this presidency, especially when he showed how export dependent they are.
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>>719365353
He clearly can't comprehend referring to something without repeating it exactly.
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>>719365594
Its referring to the game system. Every single claim repeats itself exactly and that's the point of a patent.
The mention of falling damage is only relevant to the point of the mount saving you from falling damage. Read the rest of the patent.
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>>719365156
>The beginning of claim 1 is
Read this again
>>The beginning of claim 1
Once more
>>The beginning of claim 1
The first two words you used specifically
>The beginning
Meaning that one fucking irrelevant line you picked isn't the entirety of claim 1.
>It means the computer program that performs the function of the player character mounting also performs the function of giving the player fall damage.
This is why Indians should be range banned.
That's not what it means, it refers to the state of the player on a mount. Meaning anything saying
>the game according to claim 1
Is actually saying "When mounted the game functions in this way"
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>>719314481
genshit is literally a botw clone and tendies didnt do jackshit
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>>719365870
You're telling someone to read the patent when you can't comprehend the patent referring to itself.
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>>719366107
The game program according to claim 1 means THE GAME PROGRAM mentioned on claim 1.
You're the one with reading comprehension issues.
>4. The game program according to claim 1, further comprising causing the player character to capture another character, and causing the captured character to become the owned character
Does this make sense to you then? You can only capture other creatures while mounted then according to your logic.
The patent repeats itself ad nauseum in every single detail and you think this is the only one where it doesn't and you're supposed to infer information it didn't state?

Read this
>>719365353
And tell me where it says mounted fall damage.
Show me the diagram that illustrates the mounted fall damage in the latter half of the patent.
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>>719366702
>You can only capture other creatures while mounted then according to your logic.
Where the fuck did you read ONLY in this?
Nowhere does it say only.
It says you can capture on a mount not that it's only possible while mounted.

>and you're supposed to infer information it didn't state?
What the fuck are you even talking about? You're the only one doing that when it refers to game states plain as day.

>Show me the diagram that illustrates the mounted fall damage in the latter half of the patent.
Oh you mean right here?
In the patent you clearly didn't read properly?
>When the player character 70 is not boarding an airborne boarding character (in a normal state, or when boarding a boarding character other than an airborne boarding character), the player character 70 is subject to gravity acting downward in the virtual space, and is therefore unable to remain in the air and falls through the air. When the player character 70 falls to the ground 71 from a position above a predetermined height, or when the player character 70 falls to the ground 71 at a predetermined speed or faster, the player character 70 receives a predetermined amount of damage at the point of falling to the ground 71.
Why are you even posting when every single post you make is absolutely ruined just with basic reading comprehension?
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>>719366702
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast today anon?
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>>719367498
I never eat breakfast, anon. Why do you ask?
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>>719367498
But I did eat Breakfast
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>>719367384
>前記コンピュータにさらに、
>The aforementioned computer program furthermore,
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>>719369095
Or we can pick the US patent.
>5. The non-transitory computer-readable storage medium having stored therein the game program according to claim 1, wherein
the game program further causes the computer to provide execution comprising:
if the player character falls from a height exceeding a reference or from the air toward the ground at a speed exceeding a reference, causing damage to the player character.
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>>719369340
And what a coincidence that point 2, 3 and 4 explicitly state
"while the player character is aboard"
and point 5 does not.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US12246255B2/en
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>>719369095
>>719369340
>>719369624
None of this contradicts this >>719367384
And I don't even know how you read "computer program" and interpreted it as anything other than "the game"
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>>719314481
Wasn't Nintendo already being laughed out of court for how vague their patents were on top of being made after Palworld released?
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>>719369894
No? It's pretty much the other way around.
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>>719365046
Nah, software patents shouldn't even exist. These laws were made for physical products where inventors had to fucking BUILD stuff and that cost huge amounts of money for labor and materials. But for software all you need is a computer and some time. The cost and time required is massively lower.
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>>719369624
>if the player character aboard the ground boarding target object moves toward a water surface, automatically changing to a state where the player character is aboard the water boarding target object and bringing the player character into a state where the player character can move on or in water;
And funnily enough no one mentions the automatic mount switching in the patent that other games actually don't have, and coincidentally Palworld ALSO didn't have.

So in the end it's not actually even the exact implementation of said patent, just parts of it, which matches dozens of games even if the exact details don't match. So this argument about fall damage doesn't even matter because you just need to tick enough boxes for them to be able to sue.
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>>719369624
>And what a coincidence that point 2, 3 and 4 explicitly state
>"while the player character is aboard"
Yeah because it's specifically about the specific mounts.
5 is just the mounted state according to 1. This >>719367384
Also details the sole exception being the flying mount that's what this line means
>in a normal state, or when boarding a boarding character other than an airborne boarding character
A normal state obviously being walking.

How much are you being paid to lie by the way.
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>>719370174
A video game mechanic isn't a software patent.
A software patent is more along the lines of a physics engine or word processor
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>>719370426
I've never played palworld once and I hate survivalcraft slop, anon.
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>>719315482
nintendos revenue is mostly tied up in labor and physical merchandise. mihoyo literally just has to make a couple of skins per month and they're chinese. there's absolutely no way nintendo could put a dent in mihoyo
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>>719369894
Last time Nintendo lost in court was in the 90's.
So no.
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>>719357362
Well, time to square enix to sue nintendo to oblivion then.
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>>719314481
Nice bait, people fall for it
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>>719370706
Not if they don't want to get counter sued
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>>719370923
With what?
Nintendo would have to yield because square enix can absolutely rape pokemon to death instantly.
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>>719314481
>Nexus Anima
What a fucking terrible name.
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>>719369953
>>719370697
I remember what it is now, Nintendo realized they had a losing case and changed their patents mid lawsuit to add a bunch of legalese.
They're definitely not winning that one.
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>>719371045
Square enix is busy raping their franchises
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>>719315482
China doesn't give a fuck about patents or copyrights.
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>>719371187
That's also wrong. You can't change the function of a patent, period.
Also rewording a patent isn't something you do if you're losing, it's something you do if your opposition is since they need to buy time.
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Japan just keep losing, china already winning and killing all their flop franchises lmao
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>>719371045
Anon, they wouldn't have any case against Nintendo. If they sued and failed Nintendo could countersue claiming the frivolous lawsuit incurred damages.
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>>719372149
It's kind of funny how no one batting for Palworld actually knows what's going on. It's like they're more concerned with playing damage control for their corporate overlords.
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Of course they need money for their shitty parks, they don't care make videogames anymore
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>>719372149
>rewording a patent isn't something you do if you're losing, it's something you do if your opposition is
This is completely backwards. Rewording your patent isn't common in the first place, and especially when you're rewording it to say "even when"

>>719372526
>they're more concerned with playing damage control for their corporate overlords
Amazing how you say that while playing damage control for Nintendo as they lose their outrageous case.
I don't even own Palworld, I never played it and never plan to, Nintendo is just a retarded company that deserves to be embarrassed when they try to pull some bullshit.
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>>719373068
>Rewording your patent isn't common in the first place
It happens all the time in patent cases because vague wording is the most common defence.



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