can Miles still save it?
No rivals needs a gameplay overhaul, it has cheap production value
Just fix the matchmaking
>>719321567>Start making the game more predatory >People on reddit defend every step of the way>Players leave
>>719321567wow turns out the badly designed ow clone that only lured in people with ip and art style that only impresses midwits did not have lasting appeal
>>719321567>they put out these articles when Rivals is way late in their season and OW just released their new shitWow. Imagine.
>>719321567just do a collab with both
>>719321567Deadlock is the future
>>719321567>Remove spiderman >Remove iron fistHey I fixed your game
>>719321567>can Miles still save itNobody likes Miles
>>719322246I'm starting to think the whole hero shooter thing is fundamentally broken. The design boils down to a stalemate broken up by ult usage and that's just dull.
>>719321748The matchmaking will never be fixed. The game relies on maximizing the amount of time people spend playing the game. People spend less time playing overall if the matches last too long. Matches last longer when the teams are balanced. People tend to turn the game off if they'd had to struggle for a long time no matter if they won or lost. So matchmaking as it stands naturally tends towards making games as short as possible, and this inevitably means unbalanced games where one team is stacked and the other team is handcuffed. Nobody likes the matchmaking, but the game still remains afloat because if the matchmaking were truly balanced then more people would simply quit playing. In other words very few people actually want balance. What they want is for the unbalanced odds to always fall in their favor.
>>719321567The game needs more thick, slutty milfs.
They looked at the player count at fucking 9am EST on a thursday to make this clickbait article. The daily peak player count is still higher, even though Rivals is at the end of the season and Overwatch just started a new one
>>719322353Miles and Paul chads have been dabbing on Parkersisses for years now
>>719322330>Remove iron fistHello bronzie
>>719321567>lets compare MR lowest traffic hours in late season vs overwatch highest traffic hours right after a new update
>>719322389>designate poorfag accounts as cannon fodder>abuse them with losses until they quit>re-use their accounts with bots bonus points for llm usage to feign real playersinfinite money
>>719322246Nah bro, that UI sucks. Too much shit, it looks like a some boomer WoW raid, dog.
>>719322457Thats gay
>>719321567No, they made the exact same mistake overwatch did and shocking, it had the same result.
>>719322389>The game relies on maximizing the amount of time people spend playing the gameIt accomplishes the opposite though everybody just ragequits the game and quite a few have left for good, how can these dumb chinks not see their EOMM bullshit actually drives engagement down
>>719322443All games need that. All of them.
>>719322559Valorant is doing well even though it looks like a game from mid 2000s
Who could have predicted this?!Me. Inpredicted this. Hence why I never touched this piece of shit in the first place.
>>719321567Nope.But giga nerfing Luna can.
Do you faggots not read or do research? Marvel rivals still has much more players
>>719322330Listening to retards like you is why the game will end up like overwatch.
>>719322664Nerf all support healing output by half. Proceed with damage nerfs from there.
>>719322576Everyone uses eomm. It works because people are retarded hylics.
>>719322389It working the way it does is what made me quit and never look back, and I know many others are the same way. The only people left are the ones celebrating every time a super revealing skin gets dropped
>>719322697>Marvel rivals still has much more players... in South America!
>>719322494>they only have one response
>>719322707Cope. Dive is cringe and gay.
>>719322762They can't run the game and you know it
>we aren't going to fomo the game>now here's 6 battlepasses per season that you better buy because they are going to be gone forever
>>719321567>TiedTemporarily for a few hours
>>719323085check the numbers again in a monthalso >battle.net
>>719323085How many players does Marvel Rivals have on battle.net??
>>719323257people still use battlenet?
>>719322763Seriously dude Iron Fist is a joke, you should not be having trouble with Iron Fist of all people
>>719323257That mus be why they put it on steam. Since so many people were using battlenet.
>>719323257Not enough if microsoft took all their games off of it
>>719323167>battle.netand most of Rivals players are console players so you lose again
>>719323167>>719323257Show me the battle.net numbers>uhhhhh w-what do you mean...Yeah thought so
>>719323065Crazy how these companies havn't learned to take the Helldivers 2 model.
>>719323319Yep, all the 7m WoW players use B.net.
>>719321567>coomer shit doesn't create lasting attachmentNo surprise. Coomers need a constant rush on new smut they will never stay for long on product.
>>719323085Most players are on bnet for ow. How many are playing Rivals on bnet?LololollhhahahhahahahahYou faggots never learn man. You did the same with wow. These games are unkillable
>>719322246>builds and shit>MOBANah, people just want to join a game and shoot shit
>>719322330Iron Fist is only a problem if literally no one on your team is watching your healers.>t. Iron Fist main
>>719322389>>719322389i dont care that this is a fake screenshot, it's the funniest shit i've seen all day
>>719323257Only people still using battle net are cod players since the game runs better there compared to steam
>>719322246it sure is "dead" alright
>>719322389>if the matchmaking were truly balanced then more people would simply quit playing.This is bullshit and you know it considering how many games have (relatively) balanced matchmaking and haven't kicked the bucket. Even fucking Overwatch has more balanced matches and people haven't dropped it yet.
>>719322457>PaulYou mean the genocidal fag who keeps getting fucked over by a little kid?
>>719325034it's not even out yet
>>719326815>uhm deadlock isn't out yet so it doesn't count
>>719323412>m-m-muhh consolelmao this cope
>>719327918is it real or will they scam me somehow. I'd actually play nigger-free rivals
>>719328219Probably real but they might ask you for something retarded like following their twitter on top of friending them on steam (for the invite). The invites are not limited at all unless something changed recently.
>>719328087>copeyou would know a lot about coping wouldn't you
Deserved for not letting Peni Parker have a swimsuit or an alternative mode like Overwatch 2 DVa who can get off the robot.
>>719323065They need to remove the battle pass progress reset. Once you get a few passes behind you never catch up
>>719322330pillow fist hasn't been a problem for a while lmao
>>719322443Are there any left to add?
>Make another chokepoint, CC shitfest>Drop to the level of the previous chokepoint, CC shitfestWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
>>719323085people dont play overwatch 2 on Steam so thats pretty fucking bad for Marvel Rivals. How did the game die so fast?
>>719321748Character balance needs looking at too.
>>719322246>Deadlock is the futureIt would be if they removed the leveling and the shop, normies dont want to bother with any of that, they just want to pick a hero and play without thinking about grindings for tech upgrades in a hero shooter.
>>719332828I could say the same about MR on console.Dumbass.
>>719327918>This game looks unfinished.>Matchmaker is Completely Broken>___ IS OPAre people really this stupid? You can literally only play this game by being invited to a private access beta, why are they expecting it to be polished and balanced
>>719321567Get woke, go broke
This is the seventh thread of this same article you've spammed, OP.
>>719334015No, you can't, retard.
>>719321653>it has cheap production valueYeah Concord had hundreds of millions in production and where is it now retard
>>719334015overwatch 2 is also on console so theres no advantage
>>719322246Deadlock is boring as fuck though also requires way more of a time commitment than OW/Rivals.
>>719323167> Console players
>>719323257Trillions
>>719332370She hulk, Ms Marvel, Rogue, Black Cat, and after that I start running out of ideas
>>719334102Perpetual early access scams and unfinished releases completely warped people's perspectives.
>Class-based shooter that doesn't boil down to using ults to do anythingtf2 always wins baby
>>719336270Uber is basically THE ult of the game.
>>719336393And it's entirely unnecessary to win.
>>719322246>complicated>but not fun enough to justify learning it>no slutwear>void instead of pantyshotsNah. It's unfun and pozzed. Doesn't even have porn like Overwatch. Deserves to die.
>>719336393Uber isn't an "I win" button if you the person you're pocketing is a retard with no awareness or aim.
>>719321567'fraid only more coomslop can save you now
>>719321567Every healer having a zen ult was the dumbest shit I've ever seen in a game, combined with low skill heroes rewarding bad players for being bad by having insane movement speed, dashes, damage reduction and temp shields etc.I assume its because the game is balanced around controllers and autoaim.
>>719336393It usually is, and yet nobody goes Medic most games. It is a mystery.
>>719336532>>719336718>you don't need a mercy rez to win>if you rez the wrong person you still loseapplicable to actual ultimate spam fests, and in a 'serious' format like 6's, it's emphasized so much that going roamer and dropping uber is worth a kill and a half.
>>719336679Besides the Gargoyle (Ivy) I can't remember what a single Deadlock character looks like. Haven't played it, just none of the threads that have passed by have ever left an impression.
>My chinkslop is better
>>719337674>and in a 'serious' formatStopped reading there. Comparing class-based shooter to anything competitive is like pretending Smash is taken seriously. It's a party game, take your hormones and bring that talk to another game.
>>719337956>if who you uber sucks, then it makes no difference>bring up instance where uber matters >ERM NOT LIKE THAT, TROON!concession accepted, glad you admit TF2 isn't a real shooter though.
>>719321567Imagine if you could only play one map and gametype back in Halo 3. That is what Marvel Rivals feels like. I don't know nor care how Overwatch did things, that's just my impression of Rivals. Shallow game design.
>>719338132None of these games are real shooters. So if you take that away from what he said, neither is Overwatch, Deadlock or Rivals. You're all cucks playing party games.
>>719333147I agree and think MOBAs are shit. However, DOTA and LOL are unbelievably popular. Lots of normalfag evidently do enjoy these games.I think it's mainly teenagers no-lifing them
>>719338379They're Unreal Tournaments for retards.
>>719321567Save what, Overwatch?
>>719336030I don't think Marvel wants to ever talk about the time Carol was pregnant and gave birth.
>>719322330What is wrong with Iron Fist?
>>719321567Tuning the matchmaking and making the game run better would likely help a lot.
>>719324679Does Marvel Rivals run better there than on steam?>>719337487Zen?
>>719340015>and making the game run betterit's been running at lot worse for me since a couple updates ago, I used to have no problems. How do these chinks keep making things worse
>Start adding in OCs>FailThis is why I made Luna Snow a jobber in my Marvel re-imagining
>>719321567this is really grim considering most ow players aren't even on steam
>>719321567I think they went too hard on fomo and that approach just leads to burnout. Also blade and jean suck.
>>719321567No
>>719340246they have Marvel's aproval to make OC's, but none of the characters are originals to Rivals.Luna Snow is absolutely a nepobaby however, as her korean creator works at Netease.
>>719322246Stupid bait Different genreKill yourself
I played it once on launch and went back to tf2.
>>719321567>chink game that looks like it's from 2008You can only do so much coom pandering until people realize they’re not having fun.
>>7193366793 out of 5 lines of your post are about pleasing your dick
>All the goonerbait and can barely beat overwatch on steam, even when most people are on battle.netgrim All hero shooters are trash tho, but its just funny how people were expecting something good from a mobile chink companyAll it has going for it is the marvel ip (capeshit) and gooner skins (just go watch porn)
>>719321567chinese people really hate balancing
>>719341152>even when most people are on battle.netLmao who are you trying to fool
>>719340192What Nvidia driver are you using? Driver version I mean
>>719340938And? Your game will die. They will release some coomer skins later anyway as a last ditch effort but nobody will care at that point. Good riddance.
private servers when?
>slop vs slopOnly retards play these games
>>719323085Ooof rivals sisters, our capeslop 3ps ain’t looking so hot
>>719321567>want to have fun >pop ult >"US AGAINST THE WORLD" >someone else pops ult >"THIS IS SOME REAL FIRE POWER" >someone else pops ult >"I'M READY TO PUT ON A SHOW" >someone else pops ult >"DISAPPEAR" Overwatch sucks and overtunes their healers but holy shit none of the healer ults in Overwatch (besides broken vanilla Brig) have ever had ults this OP where nothing dies 99% of the time. This kills any interest in continuing playing the game for me.
>>719321567The player count has been stable for months. Doomposters are retarded.
>>719322389This is complete fucking copium made up by retards who's double digit IQ and bloated ego can't handle getting stomped ever.
if you believe the unverified Batttle.Net player counts, Overwatch 2 has much more of a playerbase than Marvel Rivals.which is honestly impressive considering every person ive seen that plays OW2 seems to have nothing but bad things to say about the game.
>>719324301WoW players are monogamers. They play WoW and literally nothing else.
>>719322246I think it's wayyyyy too complicated to ever catch on for 99% of people. Icefraud only appeals to people with extreme autism and russian bots.
>>719342595?
>>719343456>average players around 80k for three monthsas I said
wanted to see what the hype is with this game after all the shilling here died off and holy fuck you spergs really just poke at each other in massive blobs for 30-50 seconds until one person finally explodes from an ult or whatever, what's the appeal? genuinely what the fuck do you play this garbage for
game is already dead in asiahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d-C6jsVfvM&t=8575s
>>719343705Goddamn why is Flats face always so punchable?
>>719343340I've probably played 10-20 hours of overwatch a month since the first game came out. Overwatch 2 was meh, but fine. I never cared about PVE shit so didn't care that they scrapped it (honestly kind of glad, they should just make another game for that stuff).This year with adding perks and stadium the game felt awesome and fresh, like a true sequel. The past 2 seasons have been kind of shitty though, adding map voting, hero bans, hero drafting turns the game from a casual fun time I can get some matches in to kill time to a competitive slog where it can take 10-15 minutes just to find and start a game
>>719338431>Unreal Tournaments for retards.unreal tournament was a casual franchise dumbasscapture the flag was the only serious mode
>>719343340Do we have any idea how console playercounts are? I dont know if its the 3rd person camera or what but I always felt like marvel rivals was more popular among console players than overwatch.
>>719343340>if you believe the unverified Batttle.Net player countsNo I don't believe there are still people using battle.net
>>719321567I love how this image has been spammed to death here as soon as the journalist posted the article.
>>719342223very odd balancing in marvel rivals where all the support ults are so fucking annoying, and everyone else's ult is totally tame (except maybe Groot). Whereas in overwatch all the ults are kind of annoying, but none stand out from the rest (maybe kiriko?)
>>719343685Oh no! You actually have to fight in this game? You can't just quickscope people in 2 seconds over and over? Nooo! My fried dopamine receptors can't handle this!!
>>719344247that was the only place to play the game on PC for like 8 years. I would be surprised if steam had more players.
>>719342223>what is counterplayThere are more options to kill healers mid ult with every new hero. Literal skill issue.
Hero shooters are fundamentally FOTM type games.There's no need to "save" them.
>>719321567Idk i just have fatigue from these game typesI miss when I was a kid and making quickscope montages in 2009 and 1v1'ing people over silly things. Now I'm 28 and old.
It doesn't matter what companies do or try to do to "fix" games, we're going to shriek and rant and throw tantrums and be enraged about them no matter what, because that is our culture and the entire world is against us leaving our anger as our only outlet.
>>719344545They wouldn't have brought it to Steam at all if they still had enough players on Bnet.
>>719321770Of course it was Reddit. It’s always Reddit.
twitch viewers > guestimated player counts
>>719321567I'm sure adding more niggers to the game will solve the problems just like real life has shown us
>>719321567I fucking hate this safe horny redesign for Emma.
>>719344758the game is free, they dont lose anything by putting it on steam now.
>>719322353everyone loves miles
>>719344918>50% increasewhat happened? twitch drops?
>>719345463new season/hero, overwatch gets new content slower the marvel so there is a bit more hype when it happens
>>719345130Yes they do. Steam still takes a cut of microtransactions.
>>719321567amazonium is free
>>719345773only if you don't value your time
>>719322457