How does it hold up as a remake?
it's the same game with inadequate controls because there's been no change to the level design or AI.
Not, it’s a remaster
>>719325289pretty good, it's a remake
>>719325289I'll tell you when I can get past the startup screen that spins up my CPU fans.
It's the same fucking game but with uglier graphics.
>>719325289It's the same fucking game but with better graphics.
>>719325289As a remake - very well. As a game - meh
>>719327561sold
>>719325289MGS3 is still one of the best games of all time.Delta is just another butchered UE5 jankfest de-make, with tons of modern casualization + ruined art, made only for cash-grabbing and to replace the OG fans and creators.
>>719327561>betterFuck off. The color grading and lighting is ruined, models look waxy, and the typical UE5 noise and jittering is everywhere. It's also 60fps locked, but cannot hold 60fps on any of the consoles nor any GPU on the market.
>>719329207It has filters, the models look amazing when you arent trying to make them look bad and I have zero issues on my base ps5
new player heredo all of kojima’s games have purposefully corny/cheesy dialogue?example: snakes ramblings about a gun for 5 minutes or this cock smoker meowing at me
>>719329207>I'M NUMBER ONE, SNAKE!
>>719329931>do all of kojima’s games have purposefully corny/cheesy dialogue?Yes, this is literally a series staple.
>>719329931>new player herePressing XKojimbo is a movie director wanabe, all his games are like that.
>>719330023>>719330046cool thanks
Is this any good with M/KB or should I play it with a controller? I played V with M/KB but Fox Engine was definitely developed with that in mind. I'm not confident a controller-based game remade on UE5 will feel good with a mouse but I don't particularly want to play with a controller either. I've spent enough time tranqing heads with a controller, I just want to click on them instead.
>>719329931Yes, and that's a good thing.
>>719329931>But I live on... Through this arm!!!Yes it's a series staple, you gotta see the humour in it or you'll hate itMGS3 is probably my favorite game of all time and the plot is good, but it does some things worse than 1&2, such as most of the bosses being largely uninteresting and kind of lame
>>719330290MILES better with K&M though I will say the physical movement with keyboard is jank, at least with analog it soothes out your walking and running animations, Aiming is pretty much a godsend especially with the new trajectory shots..
>crouch-walking >faster way to switch camouflage >modernized controls, you use triggers to shoot guns now it’s better than the original. this isn’t up for debate. i don’t care that it doesn’t run at le heckin buttery smooth 2000000 frames a second.
>>719325289it's fucking trash
>>719330691fire guns, what you shoot is your target.
>>719330691there is a mod to crouch walk on the mgs3 pc port
>>719327561I'm usually not a person who scream about "SOVL" whenever a remaster comes out (I personally the Halo CE remaster everyone hates), but Delta feels like a modern artist trying to restore a medieval painting but deeply misunderstands what the original was going for...The HD models look great but end up looking goofy as hell during the wackier cutscenesThe piss filter in the original actually helped stylize and game more and removing it in the remaster just makes the game look like another UE5 cashgrab.Konami should've just gone full on remake desu. At least then Delta would've been able to stand on it's own like the Modern Warfare remakes instead of having the curse of being forever compared to the original.
>>719327561Wasn't that what you wanted when you bitched about the pachinko trailer?
>>719331216she does the cringe dance in the new one tho
>>719325289The people have spoken
>>719331216Good thing I don't buy games. I knew they'd be pussies and tone everything down like fags.
>>719332441I don't know why browns insist on advertising their bitcoin miners. We get it man, you saved a dollar to spend twenty. You don't need to tell us how "great" piracy is in every thread.
>>719327261Is there any way to make this game run less like shit?
>the deathpill stun trick doesn't work on the fear anymore absolute dogshit remake
>>719325289Only ever played mgs5 and ground zeroes before this. Seems pretty similar.
>>719335197Why is everything about asses now?
>>719335197it looks good. I may pay for it if it leads to MGS 1 and 2 eventually but not 1:1 with the PS2 games.If a remake of MGS 2 ever happens, they need to let the sword be used the whole game on NG+
>>719336007>they need to let the sword be used the whole game on NG+There's a mod for that if you're willing to emulate. Wouldn't hold my breath for a remake doing it
>>719327561yooooo we got that sora filter going on
>>719335809Trying to normalize faggotry. Everyone has asses but not everyone has booba. I've always been a bit sus about ass men it's a little questionable, like what's the logic behind it, why are you attracted to the muscle that covers your poop shoot? Booba are the source of life, booba is the reason you're alive RIGHT NOW unless you were a retarded formula baby, maybe it's the fomula that makes babies turn into ass men, I dunno. In conclusion its the jews.
>>719325289It's fine. It's the same shit, performance problems notwithstanding (though even then since the original ran at 30 most of the time and sometimes dipped under). I still don't care for Snake's character model and I think the game is too conservative in strange ways (the game adds crouch walking and new aiming but not the convenience of searching enemies for items the way later games did it, for example).It's good, but is it remarkably good? No. I'd hesitate to say it's even much better than a spruced up 3DS version would be. I enjoy Delta and I don't regret getting it but I'm not sure why it exists in the state that it does.
>>719332305>being too faithful to the original>somehow thats an issueI fucking hate these people so fucking much
>>719336007there's a subsistence mod for mgs2 on pc, a third person mode like mgs3. Might be worth a replay
>>719335809More brownoids and more bisexuals.
>>719336380The models look awesome wtf are you talking about? Also the mgsv style makes it much better. At least for me
>>719325289i'd like it but it runs like fucking shit so I'll just emulate the old game
>>719332305Yeah, they have
>>719325289Why does the Snake Eater song suck in this one?
>>719325289People already moved on. It's insane how fast people already stopped playing this game.
It’s basically the same game, just with better graphics and way more animations somehow. That said, I did notice the controls feel a little unresponsive at times because of these new animations; like there’s a slight input lag.I loved all the new content (the nightmare sequence, the monkey-collecting mini-game), but I’m seriously annoyed that the Bomberman mini-game didn’t make it into the PC version. Why cut that?Overall, though, it’s a pretty great remake. Definitely worth playing if you liked the original. Also, slightly hyped for Fox Hunt
>>719325497yep and thats ok for a trip down memory lane but not for 80 fucking Euros lmao. greedy cunts
>>719336905you're too used to how it used to sound, but yeah you're right it doesn't hit the same as the original song, idk why they even remastered it but its cool the original singer came back from retirement just for this
Character faces looks really fucking bad.
has anyone tried any of the ue5 tweaks/fix mods on nexus? there's a billion of them so I was wondering what the difference between all of them was
>>719337252She should have stayed in retirement Tbh, this just sounds straight up worseEven Donna Burke sounds better
>>719337336it seems to work well for me but its not a fix if you have a dogshit rig
>>719337423>This is a chinese woman
>>719325289Might try it out and delete it afterwards, first red flag for me is UE5, how was the MGS3 PC release that happened recently?
>>719337453I've got a 7900 xtx so I'm good. which one are you using? there's like 8 of them so I'm not sure which one people actually like
>>719337723I'm staying at a consistent 60 with my 3060 TI. It's still going strong against heavy hitters like this game
How do I damage the pain in phase 2? I can't remember what I did in the original but now he just refuses to get rid of his bee shield.
>>719337723use this onehttps://www.nexusmods.com/metalgearsoliddeltasnakeeater/mods/14
>100 gig
>>719331450>deeply misunderstands what the original was going for>brown bloom over the shoulder cam sloplook up twilight princess and re4 for more of these art, pseud
>>719337053its a 20 year old game that takes an average player 12 hours to complete. a new coat of paint wasn't going to keep people interested for anything other than one more run 2bh
>>719337954>over the shoulder cam slopWay to out yourself, retard
>>719325497This is blatantly false or maybe you breezed through on Easy or NormalI'm playing on hard and I'm getting my ass handed to me and I love itI'd say this is the best balance I've felt in MGS, you can't tranq everything cause enemies wake up real fast and when they wake up they go into caution right away Crouching is significantly worse than crawling which is great (3DS esa too easy because of this)Best thing you can do is to leave enemies on a hold but it's not as easy to do as MGSV
>>719337954RE4 didn't even have bloom and Twilight Princess isn't over the shoulder.
>>719337972Kitase-san was right after all
>>719337773I'm using the same gpu and can't hit 60, what's your settings? I'm playing in 1440p, using mostly medium settings and DLSS balanced. Game still runs like ass
>People complain when they depart too much from the original in the remake>People complain when it's too similarWhat do you faggots really want?
>>719338598No remakes.
>>719338713Then just play the original version? It's still there. They even released a collection for modern systems.
>>719338787Yeah but I don't want resources devoted to shit like this over new games nor do I want secondaries coming in to poison discussion of these games when they haven't even played the real thing.
>>719325289shittyframerate/10It's garbage. Anyone telling you otherwise is a konami paid shill.
>same graphics as mgs5>runs like shit>while mgs5 runs on any toaster at ultra settingsWhoever had the idea to create ue5 should be stoned to death
what's the point of gold camo? the speed you get is hardly noticeable but gives you a 100% camo index, Feels like the most useless camo in the game
>>719338243Yeah, this was my exact experience on Extreme.
>>719339398The speed can be nice to have in boss fights like Volgin or The Boss where you plan to no-hit and don't need damage reduction.
Post your results
>>719325289its finewhat are next
>>719339563Forgot to screenshot the results, but here's the stats at least. Got Chameleon because watching the cutscenes put me over the time limit for Foxhound.
Should I bother fighting the End or should I just snipe his face when I can? Is it a fun fight if you actually go for it? I remember hating it as a kid but I was stupid back then and didn't know how to approach him.
>>719339563skill issue
>>719340029>savingcringe
>>719339738Input the Konami code on the map screen and it shows you where he's sniping from, flank him and shoot him. When he flees, use thermal goggles while chasing him to follow his footsteps, rinse and repeat.
>>719337954>over the shoulder
should i?
It's good but they played it too safe imo.I don't mind the cutscenes staying the same, but I would really have liked some changes to the level design, I'm fine with the game being split up into zones, it's probably necessary for the original pacing to even work, but the jungle being so much PS2 corridors is just really underwhelming and clearly just a hardware limitation. I think you could have definitely expanded on the zones and made them a bit bigger while still keeping the same general structure of MGS3. Instead their solution was just to remove sprint from the MGSV controls, because it would have made already small levels feel even smaller. Best parts of the game are basically the same as the original where you get these larger areas to do stealth in, that's when the gameplay really shines
>>719331216why are people falseflagging so hard against this game?
>>719339398>what's the point of gold camo?I ask myself this question with every game that has gold skins, such tacky ugly shit
>>719341645People have higher expectations when it comes to games they have strong emotional connections to or that they played during better times in their lives. Plus, the general "de-make" trend is depressing and gay, so people are naturally wary of projects like this.
>>719342160so they post fake stuff like? >>719341648
>>719337831i just hid behind a rock for 30 minutes waiting for openings
>>719325289>no kiefer >no bakerno buy
>>719337831Don’t explosives like grenades work for removing the bee shield? Not sure what the implications are for non lethal but I never gave enough of a shit to go for that
I don't mind the janky controls it's part of the charm. I do mind the lack of optimization and the people who claim it "doesn't run that bad". The game should run twice as good as it does. And that's pretty fucking sad.
>>719329207>Shitposters doesn't know what he's talking aboutYou can slap the legacy filter on and it looks exactly like the piss filter of the original.
>>719341648Yeah, we saw it, dudehttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/iPHpkebe8UP_pFYLdIm1Pg/
>>719342257Not fake, but there's a reason that's the only image ever posted when claiming the graphics look bad.
the og is in my top 10 oat, and ive beaten it quite a few times, alls ill say is it didnt need a remake but it was cool to play, i just beat the fury though but i appreciate it as a revisit to an old favorite. also, runs at anywhere from 45-60 fps depending on the scenes on my rtx 4070 using arch linux, idk how theres absolutely NO stutter though, so that beiung said it helps mitigate the pain of low frames since stuttering bothers me worse. oh and it takes like 4 minutes to get past the shader comps screen every time i boot it up
>>719337423whoever modeled that girl has never touched a woman in his live>hips smaller than the elbowstranny alert
>>719342840
>>719338243Yep. The original game was trivially easy since you can just tranq/hold everyone up. In this one you have to think about where you're knocking someone out and actually sneak past them.
Big boi
>>719342840>never touched a womanironic
Any Para-Medic screens?
>>719329931yes, but there's also a lot of stuff that's corny and cheesy unintentionally
>>719343651i don't get it
>>719329931Yes.
Legacy or new style?
>>719331450Piss filter is still in, I believe. When you choose classic mode.
>>719332301>>719341645She looks good in Delta but she is missing jiggle physics, I havent seen her Kino dance either nor her Fido voice lines in Delta either, this is a problem
>>719343895legacy
>>719344062Legacy it is. Thanks
Is it the same game engine wrapped in a new graphics engine like a lot of remakes?
>>719343895New
I think its entirely fine, its way more faithful than Silent Hill 2 and RE4R were.
>>719344363Too late I already started
I don't care about this stupid ass remake because the original is already perfect but I will literally throw money at a 3D artist for the first time if a bunch of Para-Medic porn videos get made.
>>719344386I would unironically prefer a less faithful adaptation since it's at least more interesting. That's why the best modern remake will always be the RE2 remake
>>719344303>like a lot of remakes?I wish this was the case.
>>719338243Yeah, I’ll never understand people lying about Delta like that anon. The original MGS3 was infinitely easier than what we’ve got now. There used to be bugs that let you wipe out bosses ridiculously fast... most of them are gone. (The Fear is the biggest example) And on top of that, the AI seems rebalanced if you’re using a modern controller setup.
>>719344687You've never actually finished the original RE2. I'd be surprised if you made it to the police station without dying and giving up.
>>719344858You're a nostalgia blind loser who has never enjoyed a video game since his childhood. Remakes in general are cringe and inherently inferior to new games but if you're going to remake something. Make it interesting and worth playing for anyone who has already played the original. In fact you may just be a larper zoomer who pretends to like old games and has never played RE2 in his life since you'd prefer to actually play it for the first time with the remake.
>>719325497Does the AI even need to be changed? Part of why MGS is so good is the complex but ultimately predictable behavior of guards. You know if you leave footprints somewhere a guard is going to notice them and investigate, just like if a guard spotted you for half a second he's going to ignore the sound of a thrown empty mag off to the side.
Kojima is a hack, always was. It would be better for all if he fucked off out the industry for good and started making low budget movies like he always wanted to. Maybe he will now that his shitty delivery man 2 game flopped.
>>719344976I literally have speed run records on nightmare mode which you know nothing about because even on the baby mode remake you're scared to play with ink ribbons. You remember ink ribbons? The item that was a standard gameplay mechanic and they figured was too hard for modern retards like you so they only put it in "hardcore"? Get lost, faggot.
>>719345185Oh yeah you're definitely a larper.
>>719344687But RE2 Remake just isn’t good. Sure, a few areas look better, but it completely misses the soul of the original. The controls feel stiff, enemies are way too spongey, the zapping system is gone, and the story contradicts itself between scenarios. Add in all the cut content, and it’s mostly a mess. It’s visually impressive, yeah, but it doesn’t feel like RE2 anymore. Decent game, bad remake.
>>719345334>but it doesn't feel like RE2Good, if I wanted RE2, I'd play it. I want a new experience which is why it's good. Anyone who judges a remake based on how like or unlike the original it is instead of simply how it stands on it's own is a low IQ retard who isn't worth taking seriously.
I've rewatched the cutscenes now as a 30 year old and god damn the cutscenes are so fucking cringeworthy And yet people have the gall to complain about Twin Snakes "silly, over the top" cutscenes yet praise the cringe ass cutscenes in this game
>>719345465Atleast snake doesn't flip over doors and matrix dodge bullets.
>>719345465There's good cringe and there's bad cringe. Sorry you don't understand this.
>>719345441>a low IQ retard who isn't worth taking seriously.I’ll take the insult, fine. But if the goal was to create something new, then why remake RE2 at all? Why not just make a brand-new game instead of using the name and legacy of something you clearly didn’t want to preserve?
>>719345185Anon he’s not even calling original 2 bad, and no one cares about your PBs. His point is that a remake can earn it’s existence for being different, not for aping every single mechanic from the original.
I thought the scene where he spergs out about the 1911 for 5 minutes straight was endearing, personally.
>>719325289It's completely typical. Everything was hurt by modernization. Faces look weird and wrong, movement is worse, art direction is gone, UI is worse, but it's convenient to play so people tolerate it.
>>719345681I said RE2 remake is the best remake, I never claimed it to be better than any of the other new RE games. Being a remake of RE2 makes it at least above average but it doesn't hold a candle to the actual new games that are good and fresh. As I said a remake is inherently cringe but doing a remake with SOME originality is at least preferable to one with no originality at all.>>719345803Exactly. If a remake is going to 1:1 copy everything then it's only value is an overpriced port but every remake that has ever come out loses a bit of the original charm so a straight port or remaster would be preferable. Though to be fair you also have cases like RE3 remake where I do wish they just copied the original since the changes were just unbelievably terrible.
>>719325289>I'm scars all overDamn he ain't lying this time compared to OG
>>719335197For me It's Mami Yamasaki
>>719325497>>719345051I feel like AI sees further than before. Escaping Groznyj Grad to the sewers on Extreme, no alerts, was really trial and error. Especially because I forgot that Johnny gives you the cig sprays if you feed him so I just used the box and stop-go-stop-go when they weren't looking
>>719346578
>PvP mode in full priced game>Wont launch until fall>No crossplayThis shit is so fucking dead on arrival. What is Konami thinking
>>719336595That sounds good especially if you turn off radar. The claustrophobic hallways always felt like a waste when you had the radar plus top down camera. Its just unfortunate I replayed it a few months ago
>>719346384Is this a static texture or is it affected by how many injuries you've taken? That'd be a cool effect.
>>719325289It's not great. I would highly recommend new players just still just emulate it. The biggest faults are that the character models and animations are now soulless as fuck so all the cutscenes are ruined. Following that, the dialogue quality is different/worse and I'm not a fan of it.The rest is mostly side-grade stuff. Some things like aiming and moving around while shooting are good but there are a few gameplay quirks that are downgrades compared to the original game.>>719325518This. It's the same as the Oblivion remaster.
studios are so lazy now, they cant even be bothered to make a real remake. the game feels SO JANK and dated. its bizarre playing it with modern graphics.
>>719325289it's already surpassed Death Stranding 2 in sales lmao
>>719345681>Why not just make a brand-new gameall a part of the whole You Will Own Nothing and Be Happy demoralization plan
>>719347029Dunno, If you're lying or baiting>PS5 Exclusive>vs>Fucking multi-platform shoo
>>719344006MGS didn't just have one filter like the "legacy filter", it had color grading depending on where you are.I played most of the game with that turned on and it wasn't a good replication and it made some areas look bad.
>>719346931Affected by the injuries you taken and healed. Yeah it is pretty cool but you actually have to be either a shitter or purposefully hurt yourself to see them like i did.Used grenades on myself to get the burn scars and used the spiked traps to cut myself.It actually bothers me that snake has that X shaped scar on his face now.
>>719346724I'm impressed that they're even making a multiplayer mode.
>>719327776https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEZsGUqgtHQ
>>719325289Your available SPAGHETTI will be displayed in a TOASTER on the ENCLOSED INSTRUCTION BOOK
>>719346724I think it would be cool to play even with not being MGO, but the fact its delayed annoys the hell out of me. I'd probably play it now, but in 2 months? Nah
>>719340787Based, the proper way to play this game. Not the other free camera dogshit.
>>719347354i got raped by the fury so at the end of the game my snake had burns all over his back lmao
>>719346950as opposed to...what?
>>719348890>/v/ two years agoRE4 remake is SHIT because it changes too much>/v/ nowMGS Delta is SHIT because its too similar
>>719348878oof yeah i can even typical players getting easy burn scars with thatMy back is filled with cut scars instead, so i guess it is pretty dynamic instead of being pre placed.
>>719349337>4 scars on his face alone, one under his eye, the x ones and one very hidden in his beard.This actually is a pretty impressive amount of detail
>>719349616mine had this mark on his cheek for literally the entire gamethe damage is subtle but its cool i like it
Test
>>719349832Welcome back. How was your ban?
>>719337896>change
>>719337831I recall the shotgun being very useful against the bee shield. As long as the shield is up, it won't do much if any lethal damage.
>>719339563I got Scorpion because I forgot to save before shooting The End early and the wheel knocked me back into the loading zone which overwrote the autosave.
>>719349779Pretty sure everyone has that. You have it since the very start of the game and it never goes away weirdly enough.
>>719339563
>>719333619I changed the quality from ultra to high and then turned the upscaling DLSS stuff to "balanced".Personally I don't see any weird effects from using that kind of stuff. (12600k+3080)
>>719327561While we're at it, can someone get a good screenshot of this scene so I can add it to this compilation?
>>719351028weird thing about that is that every version is differenteven like the 2 ps2 versions and the 2 emulatorsit's honestly pretty confusing overall
>>719341648>they know
>>719351028
>>719325289They just took the Master Collection version of the game, added some of the PS2 content back, and added a modern mode with controls, gameplay and enemy changes while having their remastered visuals over top. Straight up, it's a remaster, not a remake, and it shouldn't be billed as such.After that point it's basically subjective as to whether you prefer the old visuals or new, and whether you think the returning content, remixed stuff like Guy Savage, and the New Style stuff are worth it.
>>719351783I think it's because The End can initially spawn in various different spots. Here's one on the 3DS
>>719325289The original was shit so why would I play the remake?
>>719337896Funny thing is 12GB are taken up by the Master Collection assets still in the game files, but doing absolutely fuck all for existing since Delta doesn't actively use them.
>>719352489>the assets for the old version are in the newdidn't this also happen with the demon's souls remake?
>>719352489It would be amazing if the old facial animation stuff is in there and the models can just be swapped.This would be like 9/10 if I could play with the old models.
>>719348890the last of us part 2no action game has surpassed this btw
>>719351028>Major, I've set off the nuke, the End has been defeated>Well done, Snake
>>719352806tlou2 is the real remake of mgs3, including wokeshit
Not read any of this no spoilersOne questionPC with max graphics or Ps5?
>>719353016ps2 with flight stick
>>719352806Mainly cause the AI is actually fun to engage with. MGS like Hitman have dumb, predictable AI but in the ways you utilize it, it works for those games. It just makes a remake like this a little jarring.
>>719325289It makes the original obsolete, like a remake should, although this is barely a remake and more like a beefed up remasterI wish some of the areas were bigger and had more enemies and that the CQC was a little more advanced like MGS4
>>719353016It runs like shit on PS5 and has no mods.>>719353364>It makes the original obsolete,No it doesn't. It's basically FFX HD in that regard.
how long until a modder figures out how to get a Subsistence camera in legacy style, because the all or nothing approach is kind of retarded.
>>719353538>No it doesn'tYes it does, there is zero reasons to play the original over thisIt is a bit overpriced though
holy fuck when did volgin become such a pain in the ass, on extreme he pretty much can one/two shot.. Im able to get to his second phase without damage but once that lightning shit starts I'm out
>>719353538There are way more changes in here than a HD remaster like FFX. Demon Souls Remake and SOTC are both minor control changes, nothing as huge as what is in Delta combined with quick camo swaps.
There's no rewards for killing the end just lethal? Also no rewards for beating the game in extreme ? Also why the fuck is my stomach growling every 2 seconds
>>719338598Not everyone is one person, you realize.
>>719353694I remember trying to stamina kill Volgin being pretty hard in the original on Extreme until you learn his attacks and how to respond to them.
>>719344687>>719332305No clue who these people are that think they need to change the story for the sake of change why? It's literally one of the best parts of MGS3. I get changing some levels, enemy placements, and mechanics. But why the story. Why ask for worse voice acting with worse writing just for the sake of change when people can barely handle different lighting
>>719354727Nobody said anything about changing the story.
>>719341176just pirate it anon
>>719338938>Yeah but I don't want resources devoted to shit like this over new gamesYou still shit on it regardless because Kojima isn't making it, that new silent hill, that isn't a remake, is still being shit on in /v/>>nor do I want secondaries coming in to poison discussion of these games when they haven't even played the real thing.Secondaries are gonna be shit on regardless if they played the remake or the original.
>>719353660>Yes it does, there is zero reasons to play the original over thisBetter presentation and audio. This game is basically a movie, nothing else really matters.>>719353882It stills fucks up the game in the same way.>Demon Souls Remake and SOTC are both minor control changesThose two were downgrades in most regards too.
>>719336364>>719336598>low T fags that havent fucked a fat ass girl doggystyle
>>719337456She's not ethnically Chinese.
>>719332305>too faithful to the originallmao
MGS games can only get 1:1 remakes. It's not like Resident Evil where even hardcore fans don't give a shit about the plot.Now, facial expressions should have looked better, mocap should have been done, with actors that looks as close to the original faces as possible. Other than that, the UE5 looks better than RE Engine, it just needs to be used better
>>719338243you just stick up freeze them forever instead lol
>>719343385fake and not real
how do you do non lethal runs if enemies just wake up after sleep darts or chokes?
>>719355221>Other than that, the UE5 looks better than RE Engine,no it doesn't it also runs like fucking shit
>>719338243everyone reviewing the game and saying it's too easy are all playing on easy and normal. hard is where the ai actually starts doing different things, and detecting you from far away. in the warehouse i got an alert, and the backup sent in shield guys that blocked the 2 exits, and they started walking around clearing corners. they literally do not get the chance to do anything like this in normal or under. hard as starts placing more enemies as well.
>>719338243my only complaint with sticking guys up is i feel it's bugged. whenever i cqc them to the floor and aim at them, it's a 50/50 toss up if they're doing to surrender. if i hit them with the punch punch kick, the second i aim my gun anywhere, not even at them, they surrender.
>slit throat>no blood, no soundit's shit and devs are tranqfags
I always plays these games on very easy mode desu
>>719329207It's funny because Snake has, in fact, tried a disguise.
>>719341645>why are people falseflagging so hard against this game?it's another 20+ year old game that mogs everything modern developers shit out, so journalists have to go on the offense for them, because it's not good for business when a ps2 game is 10 times the game the last 10 years of open world slop has given us.
>>719356176It's also>muh konami
>>719336905i like cynthias voice a lot in the new version. sure, it's a little rougher, but it's a confident rough, which is soul to me. they autotune 2 parts way too hard which is awful, but the main problem is the instrumentation is 10 times worse than the original. they mix the porno guitars too low into the mix, and i hate it.
>think i'm holding my mk 22>obliterate raikov with my 1911i always knew i was cut out to be a cop.
>>719329931yes its a japanese westaboo trying to recreate america from movies
>>719356481volgins gonna have a melty
>>719343895New if you played substance.
>>719355436Shoot their radio so they can't call for backup.
>>719345465The problem is MGS3 started Kojima's bad habit of padding out cutscenes with awkward pauses and badly timed comedic moments, which only got worse in 4.>>719345672No, it's bad. If Kojima wants to be a film director he should learn how to direct a fucking film.
>>719325289Would have preferred if it was a reimagining, i.e. putting MGS3's plot into MGSV's gameplay instead of a straight 1:1 remake with prettier grafix.
The atrocious Mk 22 hush puppy bullet drop is insanity, snake moves like he's got 10 pound weights to his feet, the handling of dead bodies feels like operating a construction crane, Stamina depletion is way to high even with minimal equipment equippped, game is literally a 1 for 1 positioning of the original including all the mistake made by the original Kojima team e.g. (life med inaccessible before the pain fight)
looks godly with action movie filter on my lg c2 and 4090
>>719325289Having a blast. Konami has really made a return to form without the clunkiness of the original. I can't wait to see what's next from the Metal Gear franchise!
the remake kinda sucks and I've been skipping the cutscenes, just focusing on a no kill run where I find the ducks and frogs. I'm a pretty big fan of the original having played through it like 20 times at least. I like it so much that I was able to really enjoy portable ops.some of my nitpicks off the top of my head:- all of the audio is worse than it was on ps2 which really makes it feel cheap and shitty to me. I hope someone replaces it all but I doubt anyone has taste enough to even notice this.- the art style is very bad at times making it look like a bad ps3 game and overall it's aesthetically worse than the original game, this critique includes most of the animation work(which is what made the cutscenes so good in the original imo)- the performance dips in the weirdest locations for no apparent reason and it ruins any immersion I might be able to grab just because it's so silly to have my gpu start getting hot when I'm in some tiny corridor. like the scientist lab right before granin or in the dark cave(with shitty textures) leading to the pain. it's so dumb lol- I'm getting these frequent graphical glitches on the ground, it reminds me of the PCSX2 emulation of MGS3 like 15 years ago if any of you remember that- the controls are worse than they were on many of the previous games, this was definitely not made in-house like the shills were implying. holding people up feels buggy, there's lag when you use the cardboard box with that stupid animation they added, there's a massive delay when climbing up from the hanging position, moving around feels floaty like a typical unreal engine game, the camo menu doesn't feel responsive like you'd think it should- the visual effects genuinely look worse than the PS2 version. like water splashes, the torch(and the light if casts on the environment), and the night vision making it harder to see in that dark cave than without it lol. I also hate how the tranq tracer looks
Mk 22 tran gun is too ez even on Euro extreme, I know lets add massive bullet drop to up the challenge and not update the iron sight system with elevation notches so players would have to guess out of their ass where the tranq round is gonna land. Jesus its like the dev never fired a gun before in their lives.
>>719358662The reticle has lines for bullet drop and it's off when using legacy controls, but they fucked that too by leaving first person camera controls on the right stick
>>719357458>all the mistake made by the original Kojima team e.g. (life med inaccessible before the pain fight)Elaborate?
>>719358662Should have made suppressors more rare, like 4 total entire playthrough level of rare. Make people use books, throw food etc more. After finishing it, I am surprised looking back that the only part of the entire game that has enemies hiding down in grass is the final spot where you escort Eva.
If you didn't beat european extreme on foxhound you didnt beat the game
worse than fucking aids
>>719337831Smoke grenade
>>719325289i grew up playing the og obsessively, and i think it's fucking great. i will only hear criticisms from those who can beat my FOXHOUND run time
>>719361716How were the boss fights, I know they fixed a lot of the cheese strats
>>719361716BasedReal MGS fans know what's good
>>719361779the pain is straight up busted to the point that he feels bugged, like he never stops spamming attacks. easily the hardest part of the run. everyone else feels pretty similar to the original and a lot of the same strats still work surprisingly. the end and the boss are particularly fucking sick with the updated controls/graphics>>719361861hell yeah. 90% of the complaints ive seen about this game are either straight up wrong or misinformed its very weird
>>719331216>her bolt-ons don't jiggleThat's attention to detail right there.
>>719335809Gee I wonder...
>>719357798the climbing delay is a pain the ass innit. also didn't he used to do a super slick flip when climbing up branches?? whateva happened there.also i can't remember if it also happened in the original, but the wall hug tapping feature seems to whiff all the time. like left click to make noise just straight up doesn't hit the wall or make a noise. super finnicky.
>>719362203almost reminds of a resident evil screen shot
>>719363205the game definitely has a darker vibe than the original
>>719363047swimming feels clunkier too
>>719327561You can’t improve what is already perfect
>>719362019they took away my favorite fear Strat :'( any tips on the bosses, the ones I've been getting whooped by are the fear, this tranq drop off has been a royal pain, also how do you manage the bike chase now that they nerfed the cold war camo
>>719351028I though it looked great with the legacy filter on and the colors boosted a bitNo it's not the same and that's okay
>>719363771DUDE
>>719329931Yes surely you don’t have problems with a video game being goofy or cheesy right? That’s what gives them their charm
i like how they call it a one to one remake but they changed a bunch of small shit that makes the game a lot worse, should've just done a twin snakes even if it made the game worse
>>719363467for the fear i spent the beginning of the fight hoarding all of the snakes and rabbits in the area so he cant get them, while also shooting a few poisonous mushroom/frogs and leaving them on the ground. when he gets low on stamina he'll automatically go to the poisoned food. also never stop moving and equip the thermal goggles w/ flecktarn camo to keep battery from draining. the cold war camo still works well enough to get by with the mk22 and the bike chase overall didnt really pose much of a problem desu
>>719363847As a kid I thought this was the coolest line ever. It's probably also the first time I saw the word "perish". And probably also "shortly" and "among".
>>719363984the biggest problem for me was the men on the hover crafts, I found it a pain to try and adjust my shots, I feel I can get my time lower.. (and my saves..) is there a higher rank than foxhound or is this the big boss of mgs3?
90% of every single cinematic is better because you feel more immersed in the world90% of all gameplay encounters are better because you feel more immersed in the worldEvery bead of sweat and drop of blood is fully realized, every leaf and every snakeImagine you were watching a great movie but all of the actors were actually PS2 character models and you were watching it on a VHS on a CRT. It's still a great movie, an all time classic. You can absorb the story just fine, but some of those more precise and melodramatic moments will be awkward and plastic as well as the finder details being washed over in your mind.Now imagine watching that same movie and now everyone look like living breathing people and it's in 4K.You can see things in ways you never saw before, and your brain activates in a way the older experience can't trigger
>>719364215>90% of every single cinematic is better because you feel more immersed in the worldgenuinely shit taste, they gutted the attention to detail in the character animations and the new cinematography is shit
>>719337170I fucking wish. Whoever decided the regional prices are fucking braindead and I hope they hit their toe. it costs fucking 88.99 swiss bucks and I dont live in a shithole third world country. Konami really went full retard the past years.
>>719364278>the new cinematographyWhat scene in the game has different camera data? Can you point it out? Shitposter?I've played MGS3 on PS2 clown shoes, stop being an autistic faggot and learn to enjoy vidyaI never felt Sokolov's monologue the way I felt it this time
>>719327561>better graphicsno
>>719362096https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/0j4z97T0o_ik8jiFyareqg/
>>719364414>What scene in the game has different camera data? Can you point it out? Shitposter?no point trying to converse with a projecting dishonest shitposter, you clearly know you're wrong.
>>719364492Are you playing the game shitposter? Your opinions must derive from somewhere?You like MGS right, that's why you're getting worked up because I said it looks better than the original?Do you even own the original?
>>719364131foxhound is the highest rank of mgs3. yeah the hovercraft guys were pretty annoying, but as long as you face them directly in the cold war camo i found they would cease firing for at least a couple seconds and i could spam mk22 just above their heads in first person and hit them reliably enough. on this particular run i did get to the bridge sniping scene with a tiny sliver of health left though lol
>>719364574just keep spewing while defending cheap chinese trash, it's funny
>>719364685>now he's seething about the Chinese>hasn't played the gameGo play vidya about it, shitposter. Real MGS fans are here to discuss
>>719364685ive completed the remake 3 times now. the cutscene mocap data is literally exactly the same as the og. i dont know why everyone is lying about this game lol
Churka-coded game
>>719364808>i dont know why everyone is lying about this game lolTypical /v/irgin Friday night, lie and shitpost about video games they have never and will never play.
Its a good remaster, it would be an extremely shitty remake.
It might actually be the best 'remake' of all timeThough it is technically more of a "Remaster+"
>>719364808it takes like 5 seconds to disprove this, retard
>>719365134You can't possibly be this retarded
>>719341176If you're in the US or Western Europe with an income around the average or slightly below and still have disposable money left after depositing $5000-10000 into your savings account, why not. If you're above, isn't the entire point of earning a lot of money that you don't have to worry about small spending anymore? And finally, if you're from Brazil, Myanmar, Romania - save your money.
>>719360925if you use the tranquilizer fit anything other than boss fights you didn't play the game properly
>some mad lad got foxhound using gold camo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVyJ2YZAkM0God damn
>>719339563>Humans killed - 0
>>719365429>>some mad lad
>>719354992nice try tranny
>launch the game for the first time>crashes on launch>reinstall>same result>check online, dig past the hundreds of posts of people with Windows 98 complaining about the performance issues>Bitdefender quietly blocks the executable files from properly running>exempting them makes the game workWeird but okay.
Jesus, I don't remember the dialogue being this bad.
The Boss didn't want you to do anything, she wanted the world to be let be. I missed the last thread so I wanted to say that here
Hows on PS5? I feel like I cant betray her and get it on PC
>>719331216they can't help themselves
>AI not upgraded>Game physics the same >No new levels, bonus levels or expanded levels>No new difficulty modes >Multiplayer delayed
How good of a computer do you need to have to run this and how the fuck do i learn what level my computer actually runs at besides trial and error
>>719366591She belongs to BBC leave that whore king
>>719338598There's already a functional HD remake of MGS3 on PC. This should've been something new.
>>719366649pirate it
>>719366649compare your hardware & res to benchmark hardware
>>719366605>AI not upgradedplay on extreme>game physics the samegood>No new levels, bonus levels or expanded levelssnake vs monkey is back, guy savage remade by platinum. there's plenty to play.>no new difficulty modesthere's fucking 6 already what else do you want>multiplayer delayedyou were never planning on playing anyways
>>719338598I wanted a good port or a good remake and so far I've gotten neither.
>>719325289>never played MGS game before>try this shit>cutscene>endless dialogue>cutscene>more dialogue>60 fps cap>clunky>feels kinda shit to play when you actually get to play itno thanks famalam
>>719366649Depends on what you mean by "running"My 4060 floats in 40s at 1080p and ultra settings, it's a lame movie game so I just lock it at 30
>>719366886>>60 fps capong fr fr
>>719366823Wow two reheated levels from previous versions. This game has more reused bits than a Jim Steinman album.
>>719366886It's 100% a you had to be there situation. On a gameplay level, only MGSV holds up
>>719366649i have a 5070 and averaged 80-90 fps on 1440p quality dlss with everything on ultra except shadows and lighting on high. the part of the bike chase scene where the shagohod is crashing into all the tanks at groznyj grad dropped to like 50fps for about 5 seconds but that was the worst of it.
I'm so glad it bombed.
>>719367106guess so, 100% feels like some old old skool movie game type shiti loved splinter cell but this aint it for me
>Remake is reimagining rather than faithful remake (IE, RE4 Remake)>It sucks!>Remake is faithful remake of the original>It sucks!
>>719329207Robbie Rotten looking ass mofo
>>719368039it's an anti-zoomer gameback when it came out it was like this huge dense jungle full of stuff to find, hunt, and kill and you could talk to your support frens about itit is a game meant to get lost into which is the polar opposite of modern games >>719368060>remake is bad>it sucks!if it were good no one would say it was bad
>>719368141>if it were good no one would say it was badI mean, I've just seen videos here and there about the gameplay and it seems to be just MGS3 with some adjustements like bullet drop on MK.22. Does it have performance issues and other shit? Either way I could just dig out my PS2 and play the original.
>>719368060>Remake is reimagining rather than faithful remakeThats what a Remake isIf its just the same game with a graphics upgrade like Delta its a remaster.
>>719368332Then why the hell people on this board hate RE4 Remake when it's reimagining of the OG game?
>>719368332arguing over the semantics of remaster vs remake is so fucking tiresome. call it whatever you want just stop being such a boring pedant
>>719368275It's the same game but mostly worse and it runs like fucking shit for some reason.
>>719329207>Robbie rotten crimson chin looking nigga Where's Stephanie
>>719331216They made mgs3 even woker than it already was just wait for synthetic man's review to drop
>>719365478Lmao
It's yet another new game that even the biggest gamer shills on youtube say "it's okay, not great, buy it on sale."
>>719336535As I mentioned, people have an issue if game isn't perfect remake/remaster of the original but it's also an issue if the game is perfect remake/remaster of the original
>>719369752>but it's also an issue if the game is perfect remake/remaster of the originalThis is an issue because it almost never happens. They're ALWAYS worse in some way.
>>719325289that sobbing was hideous in the remake
>>719325289monke/10next question
>>719338243>when they wake up they go into caution right away That was in the original game tho. Have you played 3 before?
>>719325289It's depressing that people look at this AI generated monstrosity and think it replaces the original because it's shinier. Ngl though I have such intense nostalgia for this game that I do want to grab it. But I'm gonna try not to.It's also the first day where the weather is getting chilly where I live. The end of summer. Such a comfy time of year, would be a great time to get cozy and replay a classic.
>>719368039yup, thats metal gearMGSV is fine on its own if you're new to the seriesbut idk how you enjoy this shit if you weren't around for the previous games. it's like playing final fantasy remake when you never touches the series. it's just gonna look gay as fuck
>>719370074It's literally not even shinier.
>>719341648
>>719370074just pirate it, it has no drm
>>719370074Michiganchad by any chance? sudden fall weather yesterday and today has been peak coziness
>>719370139maybe not the best word but you know what I mean. The way the light is hitting the top of the guards head and his rifle. le realism. >>719370194good call. haven't torrented anything in ages. Last time I torrented a game I already own out of convenience my ISP got on my ass. Don't wanna spend money on a vpn or anything
>>719370182okay this one got me
>>719362096>Niggers and other subhumans like assesAnd people say it's "high test" to like asses
>>719370553not from Michigan but I'm glad you're feeling it too anon
>>719325289
I just got past the Pain and so far, I’m pleasantly surprised with just how faithful a remake it is, The addition of crouching and nerfing the Tranq gun alone elevates the gameplay. I’d say my most significant complaints are the redone Snake Eater, which is outright worse than the original even though it’s not terrible, and also they didn’t improve the image quality on the stock footage cutscenes. So, Delta EVA >>> 3 EVA. I’ve never seen a character get such a massive glow-up in a remake before.>>719362019The Pain was always kind of shit, even in the OG. He’s the worst part of the game.
>>719361716i'm confused at why they made dragging bodies so abysmally slow. there's basically never a reason to do it anyways, so i don't know why they decided to make snake take literally 10 seconds to lift a guy.
>>719338243I played phantom pain before delta to compare them and its ridiculous just how much harder delta is, leaving aside the fact that health regen is snail space (not to mention cure menu shenanigans) soldiers can finish you off real fast unless you book it and EVEN THEN the alert phase stays up and they keep looking for you with fucking riot shields, to the point that its much easier to just reload the checkpoint than to try and flee lolI kinda missed this kind of difficulty ngl
>>719372787>getting seen>ever
>>719358662>aim tranq gun in third person>line up head shot>whizzes past the top of the guys head>lower it a bit>whizzes to the left>move it a bit to the right>whizzes to the right and above his head>aim in first person>perfectly fucking straight every time besides the drop
>>719372925First person aim seems to be the intended way to aim. The only time I use 3rd person aim is for assault rifles.
I'm playing for the first time and just beat The End sniper dude. This game fucking sucks, I'm not sure how it got popular at all. I guess because le so random wacky characters? There are just so many baffling decisions like how fucking slow you swim on the surface and how much faster you move underwater. The game clearly wants you to not kill anyone but you just keep getting lethal weapons for some reason, yet stealth knockouts feel like absolute shit making the tranquiliser gun ridiculously OP compared to anything else. I'm not even sure I want to finish but I downloaded 80gb so I guess I should.
>>719373063forcing me into first person, but taking away my ability to lean around walls in first person is giving me testicular torsion.
>>719325289revolver ocelot
>>719373107full sneak tranq only is for when you have autism after playing the game a few times. your first play through you should do whatever you want. every difficulty besides hard and up is baby mode.
>>719373112The lack of leaning is a strange omission. Especially since you can switch shoulders in 3rd person.
>>719373220even weirder, you can lean in legacy mode.
>>719373196Do you not fail and get a bad ending if you kill too much? The NPCs are constantly telling you it's a stealth mission
>>719373320they hand wave it immediately>i had to kill everyone, don't worry, they won't knew i was here>oh, ok
>>719373320There are no multiple endings. The most you get depending on your playstyle is some alternate dialogue and scenes.
>>719373320No, the ending doesn't change at all. In the original I once finished the game with 1200+ kills and didn't suffer any ill effects.
>>719356481god that looks creepier than any monster I saw in silent hill
>>719373404how long was your walk with the sorrow
>>719373220you can't lean because you can aim and move, leaning would be a cheat because enemies can't actually see you when you lean in legacy mode
>>719373404>>719373392>>719373379That's retarded. I feel like I'm already half way through so I may as well finish with no kills though
I’m sure why the Legacy filter wasn’t just the default filter. The game looks so much better with it.
>>719372910you can't stealth bosses niggur
>>719373517At least 10 minutes. I suspect there's a cap on the number of killed enemies you actually face.
>>719373607The action movie filter looks to best to me. No filter looks washed out as hell
>>719325289CAUSE YOU CAN'T EVEN MAKE MY GAME
>>719373717That’s probably true. I’m amazed you got over 1000 though. I remember when I did a “kill everyone” run, the best I could get was something like 530.
>>719327561That looks worse though
>>719374017After the Sorrow I did make multiple laps of Grozny with the Patriot.
Konami isn't getting enough hate for charging $15 for sneaking camo sets
>>719373849WHERE'S THE FRAMERATE GONE?ARE YOU ALL THIS DUMB?
>pc version has the ape escape monkeys nice, no reason to get the playstation version
>game just crashed in the first 5 minutes of the first sceneI'm on pc this is gonna end up getting refunded
EVASEEEXXXXX
>>719366461Did this with windows security and crashes stopped, thanks
>>719363771Genuinely looks like absolute shit.
>>719377648I disagreeI like the piss filter
>>719377116What was her malfunction?
>I disagree that this shitty looking chinese made unreal engine slopfest looks badyikes
>>719377962She's the person who is singing to Snake in the songshe wanted that fertile snake so much she didn't notice Ocelot was fooling her
>>719378052>THE CHINESE!!!!!!Seethe until you're dead
go along and play vidya now
>>719353016>bikini>not beekiniDude had one job.
Dunno if I should get this. Feel kinda guilty like I'd be betraying Kojimbo-San but idk if he really cares honestly.Second, idk if I can run it anyway, I've got a 1070 and the minimum requirements are above that. Probably not worth upgrading my PC for
>>719378154>seething chinamanjust do better>>719378597it's not worth getting and you'll probably be getting under 30fps with that card. just emulate the original instead.
>>719378597Kojima is having the time of his life scanning hollywood actresses, hanging out with movie directors, and being treated like a real auteur. Getting fired was the best thing to happen to his career. He can finally move on from Metal Gear like he has wanted for years. Honestly I hope Konami makes a new Metal Gear without Kojima just to see how it would go.
sexo
>>719378785It's kind of sad how ignorant you are to what Kojima is and what he's involved in. You're idolizing a literal faggot crypto kike.
>>719378915What is he in league with the jews or something? Nobody cares schizo
I really like what they’ve done with the weapon/item/camo menu wheel
>>719378915>literal faggot crypto kikehis newest games are pro white child birth and pro east asian child birth and anti-transhumanisthe only casts beautiful white and asian womenhe's based enough for me
EVA.........SSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>>719379117It must be nice to be so ignorant. Enjoy being made fun of.
>>719379189Come on mister intellectual, tell me about Death StrandingI'm sure you're very well versed on what the story was about
>>719378597I'm gonna save you from being this retarded ever again: Rich people do not know, and do not care about you. Do what you want.
>eating snakes in the jungle with my wifewhat a thrill
>>719370182Hah
lol, lmao even
Is there a model viewer?
I liked it
>>719379939After you finish the game, yeah
>>719380034Does that include Paramedic?
>>719379892japan has fallen so far from grace manthis sucks
>>719379237He doesn't have anything. He's a schizo.
>>719355985Is this true?
why does Ocelot come across as both a professional soldier with godlike marksmanship and a dumbass who doesn't know what he's doing?
>>719380750Cause he's 18 but clearly gifted with a firearm.
>>719345441>I like it because it's a bad remake.
>>719380750
>>719352398All new assets = remake.
>>719378751I mostly just want to see how the new controls feel. I wish there was just a demo, I don't really feel like I need to play the whole game again>>719378785Feels like he lost really considering deaths stranding is getting pretty mixed reception from fans and metal gear is still what got him to where he is. Not to mention he's still referencing it still in DS2 like he can't let go of it>>719379441Well duh. But I have a soul and sense of honoring a creators work/wishes
>>719381117forgot pic
>>719380817how did he get promoted as far as he did if he's so inexperienced?
>>719381117>Well duh. But I have a soul and sense of honoring a creators work/wishesHonoring people who don't know you exist, and thus have a baseline capacity of zero to care about you. You disgust me. Last word's yours if you want it.
>>719381117>deaths strandingThe second game has had better reviews and a lot of people are coming around on the first game. This is absolutely what he wants. To be divisive and experimental. He has had to make Metal Gear for so long and metal gear has a certain expectation that his new projects don't have. As much as I would have loved Silent Hills it all worked out for the best.
>>719346634remake is garbage, but this part is super easy on EE, just get smoke grenades from Johnny and toss them in key areas, takes less than 5 minute to reach the sewers, probably less with practice.The only annoying part is the Pain, so if you've gotten past it you're good. Everything in the remake is far too easy, the problem is it's not as snappy or responsive as the original mgs3, it's slow and there's less freedom with the changes and "improvements" they've made under the hood, killing the fun of what made mgs3 so replayable.
>>719325289It's just an uglier version of the original.
>>719344006>retards that think it's just the filter
>>719381280Yeah you disgust me too because you're a soulless pig. I don't care what brainless monkeys with zero creative capacity or spirit have to say Eat shit loser
>>719329207wah wah waaaah you fucking poorfag.
The Kerotans are much harder to find than the ducks
This honestly feels nice to play, it’s just more or less a better looking version of the original with some different controls.
>>719347354they both look like action figures
>>719381117You can pirate i t but it basically feels worse than the original. The new running animations doesn't feel great, CQC and holding up enemies is more finnicky, and hugging walls and climbing over things is clunkier. And then the new control scheme sucks compared to the original, it really takes away from the experience.The aiming mechanics are better but that's about it.
>>719381650I heard holding up guards on the ground works differently now, is that true? That shit was OP in the original game.
I just find it awkward they using the same voicework from 20 years ago. Same shots, scenes and everything. People are saying the original voicework is "perfect" and while I agree it was great, them just reusing it here and just slapping on a $70 price tag on a remake with just new graphics and improved controls sounds lazy.
>>719381820It kinda does but at the same time it would be more offensive if they tried and couldn’t deliver better. I don’t know how I’d feel about new Boss monologues and shit.
>fastest running speed is practically as fast as the fastest crouchwalking speedI hate when stealth games do this, you just spend 90% of the game hunched over
>>719381650>cqc guard to the floor>aim>no Freeze!>gets up>Freeze!>hold up guard>cqc to the floor>aim>no Freeze!>gets up>Freeze!>hold up guard>grab him>cqc him to the floor>aim>Freeze!Why is it like this? MGS is all about freedom and experimentation, if Konami's worried about exploiting the AI, they should've penalized you for using the Tranq gun or or using the quick camo swap. Not butcher this so it only works 1 way, it's so dumb, Snake is deliberately handicapping himself and there's no real reason given why he's not doing besides arbitrary change, Snake not saying Freeze because he didn't do the correct Song and Dance.
>>719339563>>719340029>>719350727>kills boss>0 kills
>>719381970yeah there's a very large amount of fans who would just boycott and never stop screaming about it not being "faithful". "duude what the fuck they took out that log? that was my favorite log" meanwhile they get given some "hire fans" unreal engine remake and eat that slop up.
>>719382084not sure if it counts but you can choose not to shoot and the game will do it itself, been this way since the og
>>719382143Yeah but he still kills her. Also, I don't think it counts if you pull the trigger yourself
>>719381813I dunno? Sometimes when you alert someone then cqc them down they don't get knocked out for whatever reason, then you could hold them up while they're on the ground. What I mean is that the distance to when you can do them just feels odd. I think the 3 hit combo was changed too, only the kick seemed to work on enemies getting up which felt different than in the OG. I could be mistaken about that though.>>719381820What annoys me about that is that the voices sound somewhat worse.
>>719382097fuck them for appreciating the richness of the original and expecting that again
getting filtered by the Boss CQC timing, when the fuck do you press the button
>>719382073Might just be the range. It really did feel off to me
>>719325289I'll never understand people who want 1:1 remakes. I want to experience something new, not something with a fresh coat of paint.
The game is a bug fest. No longer buying games from virtuous, they're a trash developer. It looks good in some parts but nowhere near enough to justify its atrocious performance. Absolutely embarrassing.
>>719382301then do a reimagining, not a remake, and if you're going to do either, at least make it as good as the original mechanically and visually, if not better, not inferior. Not asking for much if they're asking for more money for a recooked game.90% of the work is already done with these remakes and reimagining
>>719382240not what I was saying at all
>>719382301As someone who legitimately loved the original I’m fine with this, you guys have had plenty of reimagining games already. Greedy fucks.
>>719382503true we need more soulless ue5 remakes
>>719382526should've been fox engine made by kojipro
Weird.
>>719382526Fuck u dude pretty much every other remake has been some top down reimagining
>>719382581MGS2 is pretty much a reimagined/remake of MGS1
>>719382581would've loved that
This was supposed to be MGS' comeback, and they fucked up the Master Collection and the, Master Collection 2 nowhere in sight and will most likely not include MGS4 or Portable Ops
>>719382645>reimagining of mgs1That's Twin Shits though.
>>719382664>super excited for MC>get 2 and 3>both of them immediately feel worse than pcsx2fucking sucks man
>>719382664It'd be a comeback if they planned a new game. Like what Capcom did with Silent Hill. This is just a stoking and stroking of nostalgia.
>>719381262nepotism
>>719340029What about the motorbike sequence? Don't you need to kill people while Eva drives the bike?
>>719380590https://files.catbox.moe/0f2bn2.webm
>>719384038But why?
oh my fucking god dudewhat is happeningwhat am I missing about this fucking CQC timing
What did she mean by this?
>>719384038Are you sure this isn't on German settings or something? I've seen plenty of blood from other people.
kojima is a piece of shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDqek46DxHA
>>719381639They kinda are when you think about it, you control their actions and play with them. Like an Action Figure
>>719384625Maybe it's a "reward" for no-kills run
>>719384507Spec ops training to cum on demand. Pretty common technique used to relax soldiers during long combat operations
>>719384230I think there is a sound prompt of when you should be pressing the button. might need to hold the button too when you press it? havent played the game in ages
>>719355985>>719384038Must be a glitch or something, because i definitely slit throats and blood spews out with appropriate sounds
>>719384507
>>719355985>>719384038You issue
>>719384951Interesting
>>719384230The timing for her second CQC counter-attack is incredibly strict. Quit trying to press it when you hear the sound and press it right before you think it's coming.The signal is The Boss' hand moving upwards. Don't listen for the sound, only react to her animation.
>>719366605>>Multiplayer delayedwait a fucking minute, delayed ?i thought they wouldn't bring it back
>>719384751>>719385168I beat her you guys. Follow her, sneak up behind the tree, CQCMosin Nagant on the groundWhen she rushes, you have to CQC her first, the distance is super trickySuper incredible boss fight still to this day and an absolute JOY despite how frustrating it is to get right
>>719382047I know it would be broken as fuck, but I'd really like to see someone implement MGSV sprinting for shits and giggles.
It is 20 dollars more than the original mgs3. Sickening, tbqh.
>>719385267>When she rushes, you have to CQC her first,just shoot her
>>719385415It's like you don't even want to play the real game.She can dodge your bullets during the chasedown btw
>>719385267nice.and yeah it's one of the most kino boss fights of all time.
this game needs a dead zone setting or something. snake keeps sliding everywhere by himself. i've never had this shit happen in any other game
>>719385412S-She's fast!
>>719385478she dodges but you can shoot her after that, git gud scrub
>>719385617IT'S LIKE YOU DON'T WANT TO PLAY THE REAL GAMESHOOT HER ON THE GROUND LIKE A MAN
>>719325289So how well do you think this remake is going to sell overall? I think it will sell around three million units. If I remember right the original MGS3 sold four million units. But how well do you think this tacky samey cheap remake is going to do?It won't fail because come on they are reusing even the voice actors and same animations as before. Very little in this is new when you think about it.
>>719346938>>719325518It's a soft remake. Don't give a shit if it's called Oblivion remastered, it's a remake too. A remaster is taking the game, upscaling some of the textures, maybe adding a bit of quality of life tweaks with controls, and/or fixing some bugs. For example, the master collection that came out on steam prior to this was a remaster. When you get to the point where some mechanics are done entirely different and the game is running in a different engine, it's a remake. It doesn't have to be a completely re-imagined game to be a remake.
>>719325289So what are your expectations for Konami and video games from this point onward? This remake will sell good strictly due to STARVED Metal Gear fans same way Silent Hill 2 sold well because of starvation.
>>719325289pretty good
>>719385682I doubt it sold that much.
I have Metaled every Gear, and this is absolutely the best Snake ever
>>719385682I wouldn't be suprised with 6million.Its a beloved classic with a franchise that's attracted many more with MGSV and co.The Oblivion remake sold like hotcakes, bit different game but essentally the same tier of remake, just an UE5 slap on with some minor gameplay tweaks to "modernize" it.
>>719385702Both Oblivion and this are remasters. They -literally- have the old game running underneath the new Unreal Engine wrapper that only affects the graphics.Saying it is a remake is literally like saying Nvidia Remix remakes all the games its used on because it's the exact same idea.And the master collection wasn't a remaster it was just a shitty port with cut content and a couple new textures.
>>719385728They should try making a new game, like with SHfSnake in concrete jungles fighting mecha godzilla
>>719383847tranqing them doesn't count as killsyou can check the start menu "records" menu to see if you killed anyone and when I shot them with tranqs it didn't count
>>719384038laugh at the german
>>719385728MGS1-2 remake.Metal Gear Delta: pachinco.
>>719385791literally the worst opinion
>>719385780The best selling Metal Gear Solid is the first one on the PS1. The other main games tended to sell in the four to five million range if I remember right. The first Metal Gear Acid managed to hit one million units sold for what its worth but that's because the Metal Gear brand was powerful during those years.
>>719385728more shitty ports and since this remaster bombed maybe not even
>>719385931Yeah, I liked wax face Big Boss too, he's an iconAnd then I liked MGSV and Venom tooand now I like this oneThey are all Snake but this one is the most true-to-life and therefore more sympathetic than a PS2 model
>>719385860I agree about Konami making new games but they shouldn't be Metal Gear. And they shouldn't be Bomberman R. God make something that actually looks FUN to play. What I wouldn't give for a 3D explorable Rocket Knight game and by that I don't mean Open World shit. Real shame the closest thing to 3D Rocket Knight is Banjo Kazooie.
>>719385968I mean this one. I don't even think it sold 1 million.
>>719325289I thought this was going to be a full-blown remake like RE4R, is it really just the same game with Unreal slop graphics? That's even worse.
>>719385682>So how well do you think this remake is going to sell overall?Old fans will re-buy this 100%, normies will drink it up and drop it after 2-3 hours(after the bee guy fight), poornigger will eternally seethe.
>>719329207>see this image spammed before the official release date expecting him to look completely bogged >play the game>he doesnt even look like this in game and only looks really bad in that one particular scene for a literal millisecond of a frameamazing, never change /v/
>>719385987>the soulless eyed snake that looks nothing like the others and has bad animation work>sympathetic this is bait
>>719385728Nothing, right now Konami is cashing on remaking their famous games similar to Capcom with Resident Evil. But I don't see a future for Konami. Once they run out of Metal Gear games to remake they are finished.Metal Gear is the only global success Konami has gaming wise. If it starts floundering then Konami has nothing else to justify their gaming development division. Even Sega has other stuff if Sonic starts failing.
>>719386015He's no Bubsy, no one cares
>>719386039>Old fans will re-buy this 100%This is just blatantly wrong, how many people in this thread even bought it? Most didn't.
>>719386118Rocket Knight is a fun concept for a video game a literal acrobatic speedy flying critter with a cool sword attack. Is he the most successful platformer? No. But I can still give his two games a replay once in a while.
>>719386071Play the game for yourself before speaking on it
>>719385827But that isn't all they did. Yeah, I get they used the original game as a base and wrapped it with UE but it's not just graphics that they changed. In oblivion they changed the way leveling works and how stats are distributed. They changed core mechanics like that. It's not just visuals.
>>719386209why else would I be talking about it if I didn't
>>719362096>lumping yourself in with jeets and chinksyeah, I guess you can't really expect more from simple minded troglodytes with no taste, culture, or identity.t. armpits
>>719386086>Even Sega has other stuff if Sonic starts failing.Sega only has Persona which is really Atlus' baby and Virtua Fighter and I don't see the new Virtua Fighter doing good. And the new Shinobi is shit. And the new Streets of Rage looks like bigger shit.Sega's brands aren't doing as grand as you might think. And I don't care what kind of tik tok trendy bullshit people say the new RPG Yakuza Like A Dragon is garbage.
>>719386210They're still just remasters.>but they spent a little bit of time making shitty modsAnd?
>>719385682>So how well do you think this remake is going to sell overall?It will sell good and then Konami will green light more remakes and when those stop selling Konami will exit the gaming industry permanently.
Anyone else hate the AT Camo? This new item is a horrible thing for this game. It's....cheaper than the EZ Gun in the original.
It flopped.
>>719386425EVA has always been ugly. The remake didn't change anything about her. She's such an unattractive shitty slut. Metal Gear has never done a good job with attractive women. Naomi is the best looking woman but holy hell her personality is way too shit incarnate. She's shittier than Johnny's stomach problems.
>>719386543Go shitpost about something else already
>game had an intense piss filter>this retard makes it even worse
are standards now so low that people will praise a game that manages to look like sfm porn and has worse character controls than original?
>>719386729The game is already forgotten and it just came out. It flopped.
/v/ loses again
*/v/ niggas
>>719386793why does he have his earpiece in?
>>719387112So Para-medic can give him tips to improve his thrusting techniques
>>719386793>20 years later and he still can't take off his pantsgrim
>>719384038I'm a retard, I had "bleeding effects" offgood job konami
>>719342840What are you 12?
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>>719331216>she does the cringe dance in the new one tho
